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  • This verse is for the Trinitarians

    Numbers 23:19 states "God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.

    Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?

    Case closed, the Judeo-christian god that Jews and Christians worship clearly state that G-d is not a human being.

  • @Paakmslm Read Genesis18-1 God apears to Abraham AS A MAN, His feet are washed and eats a meal with Abraham. Isiah9-5 A CHILD is born! A SON is given to us! And the dominion will rest on his shoulder; The wonderous advisor; MIGHTY GOD, ETERNAL FATHER, called his name Sar-Shalom[Prince of Peace] AND Numbers23:19 is saying God does not behave like a man. If God wants to be a bird in the sky He can. come on u guys beleive that mohammad rode the buraq on the miraj, give us a break please. 

  • @whyami5150 come on,r u trippin,hosea 11:9 tells u god is not a man,u quote isaiah 9:6,HELLO WAKE UP CALL,JESUS WAS NOT CALLED BY ANY OF THESE NAMES AND NO GOVERNMENT HAS RESTED ON HIS SHOULDERS,instead he ordered jews to pay tax to ceasar and if u believe the passage is literal than do u believe jesus is the EVERLASTING FATHER,remember the distinction in the trinity between father and son,

  • @Paakmslm Learn 2 read the whole passage. U r ignorant of God's Word. The chapter is talking about Balak the King of Moab had tried 2 get Balaam 2 curse Jacob + defy Israel. In verse 8 Balaam says: "How shall i curse whom God hath not cursed? or how shall i defy (whom) the Lord hath not defied? U need 2 do some serious study (with God's help) of God's Word b4 u attempt 2 quote Scripture. READ THE WHOLE CHAPTER SO U MIGHT GRASP WHAT THE STORY IS ABOUT. U HAVE TAKEN VERSE 19 OUT OF CONTEXT...

  • Why do muslims never answer me on the Gnostic origins of islam?

  • @SonofJaphet which origins and i'll attempt to answer u and ask u some questions in retaliation,but on the condition that the dialogue remains respectful

  • @exposemyfoes Sure i am a respectful person i dont want to insult you

  • @exposemyfoes Sure i am a respectful person i dont want to insult you dont worry man

  • @SonofJaphet ok than PM me about the origins

  • Hey you worship Satan disguised as God ,if you take the Talmud and the Apocrypha (both of thenm are corrupted versions of the Bible)then you put them together and voila you have the qu ran .Islam is the heretical doctrine of Bahira (Docetian)

  • Muslims believe that the quran is the uncreated speech of Allah. an attribute of God.

    In islamic belief, this will appear in the form of a man on the day of jujmnt:

    It was narrated that Buraydah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say:

    “The Qur’an will meet its companion on the Day of Resurrection when his

    grave is opened for him, in the form of a pale man." ahmad 394

    hence incarnation is not so foreign in islam.

  • loooooool

  • Mashallah! bro. May allah bless you with jannah! :)

    Yes bro you are right, Little knowledge is dangerous, never debate without knowledge, May allah guide us all...

  • You are an open-minded, smart Muslim. I think you make mistakes. Yes, we see truth, but get fooled too, and debate can save us by helping us think. If we watch passively, of course, then it means nothing. Another mistake is following Muhammad, who in the most canonical hadith, Sahih Bukhari, says, "If someone changes his Islamic religion, then kill him." Muhammad also in other Sahih hadith is shown wanting apostates dead. So all main schools of Islamic law now rule death for apostasy. Sick.

  • Why abu huraira is called "Father of CATS"? Is there any physical relationship with him! You will agree with me Its not physical relationship it is spiritual relationship, when we are talking about spirit we need to think spiritually.

  • You are wrong. It's not christian christians only who attack islam, actually muslims are the ones who attack christians and again christians aren't ignorant, igorance has no label, i have met many muslims that are ignorant

  • @jeannshi

    Christians are not ignorant? :) Really? 

  • @minute1981 you should put the whole statement in a context. saying that christians are ignorant and muslims are isn't just wrong. It is unacceptable. There are muslims as well as christians who are ignorant. So, ignorance has no colour or creed

  • @jeannshi

    Well, you're the one who wrote that comment saying Christians are not ignorant, not me, you.

    Peace.

  • @minute1981 I do not remember what was the issues at hand but if you read properly my statement. there is nothing wrong with it.It is a muslim who said that christians are not ignorant and i wanted to let the person know that Crhristians are not ignorant. Read the whole sentence and analyse it rather than being picky

  • @jeannshi

    :) .well

    it's not a skype talk....you don't have to remember.. read .. it's still there.. you said Christians are not ignorant.. :)

  • @jeannshi

    anyways.. i think you should drop it.. it's not worth it ..

  • The brother in the video speaks sense and wisdom we can learn from him

  • I didn't quite get that. One more time.

  • Jesus is God: end of story.

  • LOL!

  • Hmmm...who are you trying to convince? Yourself?

    I am not going to believe a man is God simply because you repeat it...

    Peace

  • @Yahya Snow.

    The one with ability to create is God and Jesus did create (surat ali imran 3:49). Jesus was the firs among creation and God gave him all the powers (surat ali imran 3:26) and he has special status in the eyes of God ali imran 3:45. i do not see why we should not worship him when he has a place of honor and even him himself never refused worship and even to be called God. Sorry Yahya, he is God, Lord of all and will come to judge as the same surat informs us

  • my brother -the author of this video - i subscribe to your thinking - i dont like the attacking one another - for i believe that both of the books call us to brotherhood - however i would love to discuss with you - For when the bible talks about a son - its not like the son u and i think of -No Go does not beget and neither does the Bible claim that God begat Jesus - but the greek word for begotten in can better be defined as 'unique' - son of God was the hebrew words for a King Gods anointed

  • My argument is based on the laws of moses that were broken at the time of jesus he says i have come to fulfil the laws laws thus the laws such as usury which had been changed by jews he came to replace obviously paul who never saw him was to think different of a person he had only heard about.thus making the man people speak about a mesiah then as we read how the bible was developed into the son of god then god the stupid concepts of origional sin and the dying on the cross which we dont belive

  • JibreelK,

    Does Adam and Eve have mothers? Or did Alah have a wife to make EVE?

    If you keep thinking this foolishly, you will only grow older in the foolishness.

    God Almighty has billions of sons and daughters. This is so easy to understand.

    Yahweh does not need a wife to create the biological son and daughter, as HE created Adam his son and Eve his daughter.

    Who was Adam's father? Who was Eve's father?

    Is not ALAH their father? Don't be a fool. Grow up and believe TRUTH.

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  • Psalms 82:6

    "I Yahweh said, you all are gods, and all of you are the children of the Most High Yahweh"

    There is only ONE Yahweh, but he has children he begot through creation.

    Regardless how people have sex to create more, Yahweh does not need sex to create sons or daughters. He can create a godson or goddess without sex.

    Adam and Eve have no mother!

    Don't be a fool. Gain wisdom for it is free and it welcomes you like a new friend that doesn't know your sins.

    Peace to you All

  • How come when Christans site the old testament and new testament to prove the trinity or Christ's position as God, muslims say the Bible is corrupt? But when muslims want to site the Bible of the existence or proof of mohammed's existence it is ok?

  • Just as usual this guy is the calm after the storm! U could still understand what they were saying! After Sam wins another one for the CHristians! U can not REFUTE IT! The Bible is CLEAR! The Bible say Father is GOD, Holy Ghost is GOD & JESUS is GOD & they all 3 are ONE! REFUTED! Deedat is brought up SOM MANY TIMES! I think Deedat is more popular than Muhammad, RIGHT? I think so! Deedat is WRONG! Stop talking like you are from an ARAB COUNTRY! U are from AMERICA! All I have to say is SAD SAD!

  • You're lucky I don't get in this debate. I will annihilate the "Trinity theory" beyond your comprehension.

    There is no such thing as a todem pole Yahweh with three different heads and bodies. That's absurd.

    Jesus sits on his own throne on the righthand side of Father Yahweh's Throne. Then there are 24 holy thrones of the elders of Heaven which encircle the two thrones. Rev 4:4

    Where is the third throne? 26 bodies sit on 26 thrones, YES or No?

    Just like that, you are busted :)

    Ciao

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  • muziqmonster, U refuted NOTHING! Infact it clearly say TWENTY SITS "AROUND" the Thrown. There is only ONE thrown. EZKE Saw it, ISIAH Saw it, & JOHN gives a clear view of it. I want U to check this verses out. EZEKIEL 1:25-2:2. ISAIAH 6:1-9, ISAIAH 48:16.ALSO, in Gen 19:24 is PROOF that this was already here before ANY RELIGION! Here we have GOD in Heaven & GOD on EARTH which pertain to GEN 18.1-32. If U can not refute it, JOIN THE CLUB my brotha! U HAVE BEEN SCHOOLED!

  • Then you are a complete blind fool, for now. Didn't the book of Hebrews teach you anything?

    Yahweh created Jesus and introduced him to Lucifer and the billions of angles, then gave Jesus his own throne on the immediate righthand side of HIS own!

    That is 2 thrones, not 1.

    Now at Rev. 4:4 you will read that 24 thrones of the elders encircle the Thrones. Obviously John is only concerened with Yahweh standing with the scroll in his right hand. Then Jesus enters and takes the scroll.

  • muziqmonster,We can clearly see that in Hebrews 1:2 that through him ALL THINGS WHERE MADE! Let me ask U something- in the Gen ch1-ch 4 WHO IS GOD SPEAKING TO-He clear say "& God said & God created" God said & God created" Who else was there? We can go to Prov 8:27=WHO IS IT? Also Prov 30:4=U & I know who this is! Isiah 44:24 is PROOF it is not the angels. Than we have the GREAT TIMOTHY 3:16-My friend U are REFUTED! I showed U in Gen 19:24 God can be in two place at one time

  • Jesus said this at John5:37 "And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form!"

    This pretty much defeats YOU and the millions of "trinity defenders", bcuz JESUS himself REFUTES you in broad daylight and all through the night!

    Do you ever wonder why Jesus said that he can do nothing of himself, but that only by the grace and power of the Almighty Yahweh on High can he even acheive a single thing?

    Refute Delivered

  • BTW, just incase you forgot about Yahweh's own blessings for his children, Jesus was given a great blessing when Father gave him the second in command in all of Heaven, and also a throne so that the Angels may also worship him.

    We as well will rule over Angels in different vicinities, for it is written, but surely you will deny that.

    Don't come with foolishness against me, stand corrected and stop your errors whilst your yet young.

    Jesus sits on his own throne next to Father Yahweh.

  • Yes there is ONE GOD! But Gen 19:24 clearly refutes your logic that God can only be as simple man! HOW? I have shown U in the Bible (NOWHERE ESLE) that what we believe is THERE! In both OT & NT, Nothing new! IT WAS ALREADY THERE! As for your attempt on John 5:37 WHo is Jesus speaking to? it say U, who is U? It is the JEWS that wanted to kill him becuz he made himself EQUAL TO GOD! That is who he is speaking to. Rev 4:4, I guest U didn't read Isiah or Ezek verses I wrote HUH?

  • Muz,Please tell me WHERE it say there is more than one thrown. There is ONLY ONE! Let me ask U, God can only ride on clouds, God is the only one to send PROPHETS, God is the only one who Gave the Ten commandments, right? So why is Jesus/Ya'shua CLAIMING ALL OF THIS? John 14:21, John 15:10 Follow my commandments. Matthew 26:64, Mark 13:26, Luke 21:27, Jesus come on a cloud, Matthew 23:34-37, Jesus sending Prophets. THERE IS MUCH MORE! U still have not refuted what I brought up from the start.

  • muz

    can you se a spirit, or do you know what a spirit is? Can you se the air you breath?

    even in the quran says this abt the spirit

    so now we se that even ill-allah has a spirit, is this spirit part of ill-allah?

    God's "breathing of His spirit" into man is obviously a metaphor for His endowing him with life and consciousness: that is, with a soul.(Quran Ref: 15:29

  • Shamoun only brought up that the quran doesn't explicitly say Jesus is Son of God to show swords iconsistancy. Sword said just because it doesn't say exactly that we know from other references that in quran Jesus is not Son of God in other words.

    So when sword uses the argument that Jesus never said "I AM GOD" in those 3 exact words it doesn't prove he wasn't. Just like in quran it doesn't say "Jesus is not Son of God" in those exact words.

    Understand. Good. Jesus is God Amen.

  • If Jesus was God and the son and the spirit and all that then why in the world would he say.... God, why have you forsaken me; and let this cup pass over me while crying and praying?.... And i'm not talking about his willingness either.

    One would think that if he was God and the son and the spirit they would all know the plan before hand and maybe be on the SAME PAGE??? You would think if he was gonna die for the sins of man he would've known the plan forever! Does that make sense?

  • According to trinitarian theory, one God subsists in 3 persons, however there is no biblical support for the idea that the one personal God is a divine substance that subsists in 3 persons, neither does the bible support the erroneous idea that the one God is comprised of 3 persons THAT FORM ONE DIVINE BEING.

    u worship 3 distinct gods sharing the same essence

    Trinitarians have created a mental idol conjectured in their mind ..lol..

  • nah you must be thinking of your pedophile priest from your local church....

  • No silly...the pedophile priest banging you in the name of the father,the son and spirit...

  • lol...you idiot!!...lol....

  • Lol... Trinitarians claim - "one God subsists in three persons" Now, is the "one God" a divine substance that subists within three persons or is the "one God" a personal divine being that subsists within three persons? lol...

    please provide biblical evidence with biblical exegesis to support your trinitarian 'answer'..

  • Jesus said - "Hear, O Israel - The Lord our God, the Lord is ONE"

    "You are right, Teacher (Jesus) you have truly said that HE is one, and there is NO OTHER but HE"

    Mark 12:28-34

    I ask you again WHO is "HE" that is identified in these verses as the One God according to trinitarianism???? LOL..using biblical exegesis/scriptures please...lol...

  • Jibreel, I would like to talk to you via email me, if possible. How can I contact you?

  • alah o'agbar alah o'agbar your god is not great! may you all burn in hell!

  • i think your a moron by the way.

  • if allah can be in a tree. why cant god be in jesus?

    if i burn the tree allah is speaking from. will allah die? offcourse not.

  • that is a misconcept in islam that allah is everywhere......allah is not everywhere or inside us........but allah is above the heavens....

  • herohero, there's no need for name-calling and insulting people.

    Also, what are you talking about? Allah is NOT in a tree, as He is not in His creation. God is our Creator, above the heavens. God is not on this Earth.

    Even the Bible speaks of "God the Father" being above us. Jesus is the creation, not the Creator. God the Father/Allah is GOD, not Jesus.

  • how about creating a bird( giving life )? or bringing someone from the dead? giving life!

    how about jesus is not dead but up in heaven waiting?

    is this normal for a prophet?

  • jazak-allah, excellent point, i hate debates, especially when the audience start screaming "alahu-akbar", i can imagine how freaked-out the non-Muslims feel... and i don't think they learn anything this way...

  • I agree most of what you said, but the question of Ahmad Deedat were not answered and never will be.

  • well said.

  • Too true.. people seem to love to just throw random thoughts with no knowledge of where they have derived their information from..seems like those just wanna have a confrontation rather then a conversation... keep clear from those for sure..first word revealed in the quran was IQRA (READ) !!!

  • true tht bro

  • wallahi the truth he said.

    salam brother=) from brother from Norway/Bosnian=)

  • I don't know much, but what I am sure of to the infinity percent is that God is NOT a 30 year old Jewish man who lived 2000 years ago.

  • @MoslimDude Ahahaha, yea I completely agree. But then again, nobody's really saying that, haha!

    No, Christians believe that Christ is the Incarnate Word of God, co-eternal and uncreated. There's a comment saying "the uncreated speech". Well, we like to call Him the uncreated Word of God.

  • @MoslimDude well said brother....

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