I'm just curious, is lRLR rLRL (the little letter denotes the flam) a type of Swiss Army Triplet? It alternates. I always thought that was the Swiss Army Triplet.
I've heard and seen people playing Swiss Army Triplets more accurate. To be precise, the flam doesn't come out clearly every time. You can see how it works, but it's definately not perfect. Sorry.
for all ppl saying its a flam accent, ur wrong. a flam accent is alternating (flam left right flam right left) while swiss armies are straight up consistant(flam right left flam right left)
this hands down is one of the easiest rudiments to get fast i was able to play them as fast as this guy if not faster in only 3 or 4 days of only playing them maby 5 or 10 min a day
i know right! its my favorite rudiment and i can play them like crazy fast too. i even made my own hybrid rudiment with it its like a swiss army triplet with 2 flam taps with an accent on the right hand and some rim shots here and there. im gonna eventually make a video about it.
Could someone pls leave me a message about which of these rudiments would be best to learn for a beginer drummer and which one's are acutaly mostly used in drumming thank you.
Accent every different combanation you can think of in every example given.....there are many permutations of the rudements to practice....the basic rudiment is just the "jumping off" point.
But....learn them all. If you learn them...you will use them. Their all important.
I feel the best ones to start with are the ones you like the most, this way its easier to keep a good level of determination, start off slow, try to keep the muscles in your arms relaxed, its the only way to maintain constant speed, so when you feel that tension in your arms just remember to "let go" - youl get there eventually - evryone has rudiments they struggle with, dont forget about dynamics - being able to play very light as well as hard. good luck!
if you can play paraddidles and flams really clean and nice then you can play a bunch of stuff. just start off at a comfortable pace then progressivly get fast but still try and control the sticking and dynamics. also work on a nice even buzz and double stroke roll. once its even try creshendoing. (not spelled right sorry, start soft and get louder) that should be great for you to start off with. !!!
Essentially the hands are doing the same thing, only off set by 1 beat of the triplet. Right hand plays: 1 & _. Left hand plays: 1_a. The flam occurs on the 1, where the R and L patterns meets. Try it slowly and revoice each hand (to your leg or something) so you can hear it more clearly. Another way to think of it is a triplet played with a double R stroke, followed by a single L: RRL. Now Flam the first note. Once you get it, you will have to STOP thinking and simple control it for max speed
dude, this is by a mile my best rudiment. i'm a freakin machine at these things. all they take is a little practice. make sure you don't focus on single stroking them too much. they're intended to be rebounded, so once you get 'em fast, they become more of sextuplets than triplets.
this is odd because before i started drumming i was doing this. i had no idea about it either i just did it once and thought it sounded cool. then i started drumming and found this. i was
you need to work on keeping your flams even at every speed you play them. you dont play an open grace note at slow speeds and close the space at faster speeds
Right, I always forget that our Youtube account names are the summaries of our lives. Forgive me for thinking that I was allowed to talk about anything other than guitar since my account name is, after all, guitarist30. Also forgive me for the fact that Greg Shull, the director of Constitution Percussion (a WGI ensemble, in case you did not know) wants me to be on their snare line next year. Clearly I am incapable of being anything other than a guitarist, since my account name is guitarist30.
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in actuality u are supposed to alternate..lol
NOT LIKE THE FLAM-ACCENT!!lol. the moment he finished(open-close-open) he shoulda began on the left side(open-close-open)..but remember it not always a must, kind of a plus. its just to show that u studied and can play fluently. kinda like the paradiddle-diddle :RLRRLL RLRRLL RLRRLL RLRRLL..(ETC) then left side: LRLLRR LRLLRR LRLLRR LRLLRR..(ETC)
well sir, as a percussion student, I apologize. I realize that you didn't mean that they alternate everytime, but for him to finish with the right hand and then use the left, just to show he could.
@rayraybrin i don't mean this in any offensive way. i take lessons but, if your an instructor then why are you looking up an instructional drum video?
lol, im only 12 and have been playing for only 2 years and i even knew that wasnt a swiss army triplet, work on your rudiments before teaching people the wrong things
swiss army triplets are also supposed to alternate lead hands unlike this demonstration... flam(with right hand accent),left,right.. flam(with left hand accent),right,left... then back and forth as such
Who me? I know what a Swiss Army Triplet is. Note the other comment I left (4 weeks ago it should say) where I said "And if those weren't Swiss Army Triplets, then what were they?". I was talking to Midheaven when I said "Those are flam accents". I hope you were talking to Midheaven.
I was talking to mid heaven. and there not flam accents too. The swiss army triplets, play a regular triplet, just add a flam on the accent and you have a swiss army triplet!!
nice basebell bats
SteveMcQueen24 3 months ago
@cciiiaaooo
This book says that is flam accent.
StanandLogan 7 months ago
those drumsticks freak me out!
VichoPL 7 months ago
My favorite rudiment =D
MattRenyDrums 7 months ago
DAM! I aways thought that swiss army triplet was FLAM L R
ccaaaiiooo 1 year ago
@ccaaaiiooo i guess it could be if you started on the right.
Fenixx117 1 year ago
@ccaaaiiooo it is. --> rLLR or lRRL
oldschoolluke 1 month ago
lololol im left handed and i do lefty ones so fast but doing them right like ths is too hard
figorocks 1 year ago
Haha his sticks look like the tips got amputated and now they just have nubs!
joethedrummer16 1 year ago
Damn. That sounds live.
CDB1997 1 year ago
FLAM RL FLAM RL FLAM RL etc.....
NauticaSplit 1 year ago
One of Portnoy's favorite rudiment.
acerious15 1 year ago
I'm just curious, is lRLR rLRL (the little letter denotes the flam) a type of Swiss Army Triplet? It alternates. I always thought that was the Swiss Army Triplet.
ZackPomerleau 1 year ago
@ZackPomerleau That's the sticking of flam accents.
Buttersnackattack 1 year ago
ATTENTION DRUMMERS...MY ANUS IS LEAKING STALE PORRIDGE ONTO MIKE PORTNOYS FACE
ExplosiveNutSack 1 year ago
@ExplosiveNutSack LOL! What?
VirusMan254 1 year ago
OOOOH now i get it! i was playing the wrong handed flams!
allmetaliswelcome 1 year ago
this is a whole lot easier if you DO NOT lift your left stick... keep it down.
This should also be learned left handed as well.
jpritch2 1 year ago
im new to this kind of thing. is that a flam and two triplet notes after?
ChelseaFC6528 1 year ago
@ChelseaFC6528 Yup that's exactly what it is.
drummer265 1 year ago
whats wrong with showing these on a snare? not that i mind
Milkman23 1 year ago
@Milkman23 it's harder for the mike to pick up and still sound well and it's easier to hear the exact individual notes
PokeyNTess 1 year ago
daaang. sounds like roll after a while XD
popcorn9694 1 year ago
I remember having to nail this rudiment for a solo I was doing (Hurricane). I sucked so bad at this rudiment, I hated it.
Then I started upping the tempo a beat here and a beat there. Now I love this rudiment.
If you can keep it clean and do some random head jerks, it looks SWEET!:-D
AirmetalDrummer 1 year ago
@AirmetalDrummer thats the same solo i had to learn swiss triplets for
lolpwn6969 1 year ago
@lolpwn6969 It's definitely a fun one to play once you get it down.
AirmetalDrummer 1 year ago
My fave rudiment haha
Philly2Brooklyn 1 year ago
I've heard and seen people playing Swiss Army Triplets more accurate. To be precise, the flam doesn't come out clearly every time. You can see how it works, but it's definately not perfect. Sorry.
TheMusikzwerg 2 years ago
can i use this in the place of a flam accent?
(will the judges be able to tell from behind a curtain?)
groalerable 2 years ago
i kinda wanna buy teor sticks like that off steveweiss just to see if they are good...
benjewboynett 2 years ago
Definitely sounds like an army beat.
TheSeventeenthDruid 2 years ago
i was using sarcasm.
daniLOLWUT 2 years ago
sounds like a train coming to a stop in the 1800's
killerproctologist 2 years ago
Damn, That was clean.
Themandid 2 years ago
true but he is using more rist.
DrummerBoyJustin 2 years ago
i love how this dood uses his arms. >.>
daniLOLWUT 2 years ago
lol i just noticed that
CJxSPRAYER 2 years ago
that's what she said
ASKAJAIMES 2 years ago 3
hahah thats what she said!!!
telltalemse 1 year ago
for all ppl saying its a flam accent, ur wrong. a flam accent is alternating (flam left right flam right left) while swiss armies are straight up consistant(flam right left flam right left)
sportsman192 2 years ago 2
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dynamokiev69 2 years ago
isnt that a flam accent youre talking about
UberStrawberry 2 years ago
thats a different rudiment... flam accents
turtledrum13 2 years ago
those are flam accents lol
brownsound545 2 years ago
nope
drumz86 2 years ago
i was responding to someone elses comment lol
brownsound545 2 years ago
dynamokiev, you are doin a completely different rudiment called a flam accent.
xevoleyex 2 years ago
if u can play the rudiments u can play anything
huskerfam 2 years ago
pro-tip coordination
nimajnebenneb 2 years ago
wow when you go fast i can barely hear the flams, insane
acidbath32 2 years ago
this hands down is one of the easiest rudiments to get fast i was able to play them as fast as this guy if not faster in only 3 or 4 days of only playing them maby 5 or 10 min a day
partyboy3172008 2 years ago
i know right! its my favorite rudiment and i can play them like crazy fast too. i even made my own hybrid rudiment with it its like a swiss army triplet with 2 flam taps with an accent on the right hand and some rim shots here and there. im gonna eventually make a video about it.
RCMS74 2 years ago
Could someone pls leave me a message about which of these rudiments would be best to learn for a beginer drummer and which one's are acutaly mostly used in drumming thank you.
Dzifas 2 years ago
Paradiddle. Start with RLRR LRLL with no accent.
Then accent the first of each group.
Then learn (the paradiddle)
LRRL RLLR
RRLR LLRL
LRLL RLRR
RLLR LRRL
Accent every different combanation you can think of in every example given.....there are many permutations of the rudements to practice....the basic rudiment is just the "jumping off" point.
But....learn them all. If you learn them...you will use them. Their all important.
Good luck!
HEYBUDD 2 years ago 6
I feel the best ones to start with are the ones you like the most, this way its easier to keep a good level of determination, start off slow, try to keep the muscles in your arms relaxed, its the only way to maintain constant speed, so when you feel that tension in your arms just remember to "let go" - youl get there eventually - evryone has rudiments they struggle with, dont forget about dynamics - being able to play very light as well as hard. good luck!
linnintek 2 years ago
if you can play paraddidles and flams really clean and nice then you can play a bunch of stuff. just start off at a comfortable pace then progressivly get fast but still try and control the sticking and dynamics. also work on a nice even buzz and double stroke roll. once its even try creshendoing. (not spelled right sorry, start soft and get louder) that should be great for you to start off with. !!!
RCMS74 2 years ago
Essentially the hands are doing the same thing, only off set by 1 beat of the triplet. Right hand plays: 1 & _. Left hand plays: 1_a. The flam occurs on the 1, where the R and L patterns meets. Try it slowly and revoice each hand (to your leg or something) so you can hear it more clearly. Another way to think of it is a triplet played with a double R stroke, followed by a single L: RRL. Now Flam the first note. Once you get it, you will have to STOP thinking and simple control it for max speed
elkaboom 2 years ago
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lletro 2 years ago
dude, this is by a mile my best rudiment. i'm a freakin machine at these things. all they take is a little practice. make sure you don't focus on single stroking them too much. they're intended to be rebounded, so once you get 'em fast, they become more of sextuplets than triplets.
TheJoe101 2 years ago
i single stroke sadly. :(
Pitchaxistheorem 2 years ago
ya thier fun to do. it sounds good in sum jazz stuff on set too
westhofer8 2 years ago
dude, totally! i'm in my school's jazz band, and I always use this things as a 8th note triplet on beat 4 right before i crash
TheJoe101 2 years ago
I'm having some trouble getting this one up to the highest speed, and I've been working at it for a while. Any suggestions?
BruisedEyeSockets 2 years ago
I love these things
drunkonworkahol 3 years ago
this is odd because before i started drumming i was doing this. i had no idea about it either i just did it once and thought it sounded cool. then i started drumming and found this. i was
WTF!
plopenstien 3 years ago
Do those sticks ever break XD
southernguy92 3 years ago 2
i will take a swiss military drummer and post a video response..so you see how a traditional swiss military drummer plays them.
:-)
Faststick 3 years ago
is that just a flam -trip- let?
xR34P3Rx 3 years ago
Yup. lR r l, lR r l
EmEeArCee 3 years ago
looks liek it lol
Plazma360 3 years ago
Not hard, but I can't do it as fast as he can.
warp525 3 years ago
i love swiss army tripllets
Youngcannonsticks 3 years ago 3
Heh....just noticed he looks like he's using Promark DC10 sticks.....Blue Devils used those when I marched in 84....used ot have a pair...
homfencing 3 years ago
Oh My God. People shut up! You all sound so stupid fighting on who's right and wrong!
fatusd 3 years ago 17
Theres another variation where you use double strokes which is the same, with a different technique
yourusernamehere2 3 years ago
you need to work on keeping your flams even at every speed you play them. you dont play an open grace note at slow speeds and close the space at faster speeds
guitarist30 3 years ago
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your stupid your name is guitaris30 trying to give a drummer some advice... retard get a life
dukofrune 3 years ago
Right, I always forget that our Youtube account names are the summaries of our lives. Forgive me for thinking that I was allowed to talk about anything other than guitar since my account name is, after all, guitarist30. Also forgive me for the fact that Greg Shull, the director of Constitution Percussion (a WGI ensemble, in case you did not know) wants me to be on their snare line next year. Clearly I am incapable of being anything other than a guitarist, since my account name is guitarist30.
brocknroll3333 3 years ago
Sorry I posted on my friend's account name brocknroll3333. People stop watching this person's videos he is not good and should not be posting videos.
guitarist30 3 years ago
..tee-hee. You're silly.
Suyado 2 years ago
the name is wierd but guitarist30 is right; his flams did start to close up when he got faster.
kas36spires 3 years ago
perhaps he is doing this to show precisely what he is playing.
you know, for the people out there that don't know what flams are.
ironrocker13 3 years ago 3
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in actuality u are supposed to alternate..lol
NOT LIKE THE FLAM-ACCENT!!lol. the moment he finished(open-close-open) he shoulda began on the left side(open-close-open)..but remember it not always a must, kind of a plus. its just to show that u studied and can play fluently. kinda like the paradiddle-diddle :RLRRLL RLRRLL RLRRLL RLRRLL..(ETC) then left side: LRLLRR LRLLRR LRLLRR LRLLRR..(ETC)
rayraybrin 4 years ago
no, umm your an idiot. The entire point of swiss triplet's is that you can play them really fast BECAUSE YOU DON'T ALTERNATE.
illbefamous 4 years ago
um no im a percussion instructor... and i can tell u dont know how to read!
cause if u did read my comment properly and understood ..u wouldn't have made such a stupid statement
rayraybrin 4 years ago 8
well sir, as a percussion student, I apologize. I realize that you didn't mean that they alternate everytime, but for him to finish with the right hand and then use the left, just to show he could.
illbefamous 4 years ago 3
You type like a 12 year old.
Mikelikes2rock 3 years ago
@rayraybrin i don't mean this in any offensive way. i take lessons but, if your an instructor then why are you looking up an instructional drum video?
LeGiTxBaDgEr 4 months ago
@rayraybrin I bet you failed English in high school.
pegglesex 4 months ago
What do you mean "NOT LIKE THE FLAM-ACCENT?"
CAFanTom 3 years ago
omg..some people are idiots..u dont alternate swiss army triplets...retards...
linkinpark8696 4 years ago 3
those are swiss army triplets, you arnt supposed to alternate
clydeonyamaha 4 years ago 3
play them hand to hand so people can really see how they are played
MADROCKS212 4 years ago
These are so much fun to do
lildrummerboy09 4 years ago
ya alternate in ur future videos... although real drummer dont need to look at an alternate..
bruisedupunk 4 years ago
he holds his sticks weird the left ands index finger pokes out weirdly
magicman6095 4 years ago
is there no alternative hand in a swiss triplet.
michaelervine 4 years ago
Hoi yer being lazy! You're only doing rights you should be alternating between left and right
Omikron 4 years ago
And if those weren't Swiss Army Triplets, then what were they?
Wex1117 4 years ago
Lmao that wasnt a swiss army go to vicfirthdotcom to find out wat a swiss army triplet is.sad very sad
SrDrummer15 4 years ago
lol, im only 12 and have been playing for only 2 years and i even knew that wasnt a swiss army triplet, work on your rudiments before teaching people the wrong things
macka246 4 years ago
hey mid haven you dumbass you're talking about flam accents
weinster02 4 years ago
swiss army triplets are also supposed to alternate lead hands unlike this demonstration... flam(with right hand accent),left,right.. flam(with left hand accent),right,left... then back and forth as such
MidHeaven 4 years ago
LMAO Swiss Army Triplets Go Flam(R w/ Accent)R,L,Flam,R,L....
P3rcuss10n 4 years ago 2
Those are flam accents.
Wex1117 4 years ago
it's a freaking Swiss Army Triplet you dumbshit LMAO!! Learn to drum dude!
DeafMovieMan16 4 years ago
Who me? I know what a Swiss Army Triplet is. Note the other comment I left (4 weeks ago it should say) where I said "And if those weren't Swiss Army Triplets, then what were they?". I was talking to Midheaven when I said "Those are flam accents". I hope you were talking to Midheaven.
Wex1117 4 years ago
I was talking to mid heaven. and there not flam accents too. The swiss army triplets, play a regular triplet, just add a flam on the accent and you have a swiss army triplet!!
DeafMovieMan16 4 years ago
very sloppy
hanman16 4 years ago
are you drunk?
bigups43 4 years ago