I prefer to avoid industrial fishit altogether and actually SEE what I eat, and know WHAT it is.
Well, many people (especially the american consumer) simply shove everything to their mouth without any thought about it... Their very culture has driven them to Not ask questions and just take whatever crap given to them has gold, and there are many others who are blind exactly the same way.
Ignorants love to just "move along" and not question anything.
i'd like to begin a vegan diet as well. i don't eat much meat or anything like that to begin with - i don't like it, but these are very helpful full of great information most people are not aware of.
@Fishncapt26.....ok if u disagree ...prove her wrong then. Thats the only way...with facts. Just like she did. With a source that we can look into, and actually proves her wrong. Otherwise, dont just come and comment something you dont know about.
anyone who listens or believes single word out of this psychotic insane lunatic peta psycho you are too stupid and should have life revoked before you breed or vote. this insane liar has never said single fact figure number word that isnt blatant lies lunacy peta propaganda. its so scary someone this insane and this dishonest is allowed continue flooding you tube and trying deceive manipulate young women and weak minded sheeple. if you listen believe 1 word from this psycho please die asap
thank you for this. though i find it hard to remember all the weird names of these things, i think its just better to avoid things that have unfamiliar names. its shocking how many 'hidden' animal products there are in everyday food!
If you are so concerned about every living thing then why do vegans buy their food from farms that still use such barbaric methods, how many insects and small mammals die horrable deaths as a result of conventional farming methods? Think your hydroponic stuff is any better...WRONG! The high volume discharge from those farms is highly toxic and is dumped into your rivers and streams. If you want to reduce you killing of anamals the only way to go is aquaponic grown food, which is very pricy.
@Shell123ey I started today as a vegan, and I don't know what to do, Iv'e looked through websites, but in Puerto Rico there's barely anything I can eat, especially at school, plus, I don't wanna give up candy and chocolate, so what can I do?
@JACNtv :) Yayyy!! :D!! Well you may want to start making your own food, and bringing it to school. I was doing that from age 12 upward. You can make lots of candies and treats using pretty basic ingredients, like Toffee Apples! And if you want some colouring, you can make them whatever colour you want! Green's my favourite! (You might even get a green tongue! :P) Lots of recipes are on google. Make some for your friends too! Or, you might be able to order vegan candies online!
@Shell123ey I don't think I can order candy online, I'm just so obssessed with candy and I stopped all of the sudden that I'm dying inside, I accidentally ate funyuns and I had the curiosity to check the ingredients, it said it had buttermilk on it, so I gave it to a friend, It was really hard to let go, after 15 years of eating all of that and stopping all of the sudden is not easy, but I'm doing what I can, thanks!! :D
@Shell123ey I've recently gone vegan, but my parents are really aggravated with me about it. In stores, how do you know what is completely vegan? Do you have to stand in the store for hours reading labels over and over with a check list of animal derived products? This is really an issue for me!! How do you know what you can buy, without starving??
@Shell123ey, hey I was wondering something, I'm a Christian vegan and I'm trying to get my church to watch Earthlings, any suggestions? Based on you're videos I can tell you're pretty good at persuasive arguments. I've actually worked with an ag research center, and I've witnessed some horrible things, which is why I'm vegan now, but people think I'm uneducated about what really goes on even though I've seen it, and so they won't listen.
Distributed Vegans are weak, Unified Vegans are strong, we must unite and let it begin. we need a definitive method, almost like our own nation but not on territorial grounds, maybe an online society, I don't know just something 2 united us all. who's with me?
eating anything that comes out of a package and not out of the ground seems to require a certain level of detective skills…now since i'm trying to go vegan…i think i'll be okay without the meat but the getting away from the products that use dairy and eggs will be harder for me i think…but i'll do it! even when you're trying your best though you still encounter these random things you wouldn't think of
Really disturbing but really important to know. I'm shocked to think of how much non vegan stuff I may have eaten over the years even while trying my best to avoid animal products, so thanks for the info!
some other E numbers may or may not be made of animal products - you have to check with the producer. other E numbers are not derived from animal products.
Lactic acid in commercial products comes from carbohydrate fermenation. While lactic acid exists in muscle tissue and blood, this is never a source of commercial lactic acid for use in any product.
Not like manufacturers gather a bunch of insects and dump it into the foods they make. Insects are fascinating..but they can be dumb little creatures. They just go where foods are, including food-manufacturing factories. It's not the manufacturers' fault they get crushed in the machines..
@anabananie88 Insects aren't animals. I don't know why she's warning Vegans. Her argument would be more relative if she were warning us that birds often fly into air plane turbines so we shouldn't fly.
Cystine is a required substance by the human body.
It's an amino acid. It's protein. Protein is just the same for a variety of different amino acids, one of which humans need is cystine. I guess if it's labelled as a specific substance on a food then maybe it's sourced from horses, I have no idea.
— n a person who refrains from using any animal product whatever for food, clothing, or any other purpose "
Wikipedia:
"Veganism is the practice of eliminating the use by human beings of animal products. Ethical vegans reject the commodity status of animals and the use of animal products for any purpose"
And for some reason it seems to be North Americans that have diluted the word. Rather like some call themselves vegetarian even though they eat fish. I'm only glad that Bill Clinton doesn't call himself vegan because he isn't.
I wonder how many kids would still enjoy their sweets if they knew they have beetles in them, that the glaze on many 'shiny' sweets is from the lac insect or the chewiness is from boiled animal bones.
I am shocked at the childishness of some people, This Young girl is trying to share useful information with You which can help prolong your exitence and all You can do is act like a bunch of immature children, I'm almost glad You'll suffer the consequence of Your actions!
I am a farmers son and have grown up on the family farm, we do not do factory farming but i still choose to be vegetarian because it is OBVIOUS that eating another individual is wrong, and THEY ARE AWARE! it has been proven!
@offhishedted: The same to the people who act shocked when people disagree with them. And this isn't useful information, it is weighted language that is meant to shock people into following what she thinks is moral for lack of actually scientific evidence from credible sources. One study says that milk causes bone loss (The China Study) and the author even said more evidence is needed about it causing cancer. More evidence is needed period for that study.
@DrKyure This is too complicated to discuss in text. Even in person, it's not easy. The majority 'set the rules', you say but we all have something about us that doesn't fit with the majority and, in these cases, most people who are caring will try to accomodate.
You ask me why do I keep eating with meat-eaters if some of them don't quite 'get it'. I can't 'disconnect' socially with society. Most of my friends understand but there's always going to be some who just don't 'get it'.
@marcluc1988: I never said that the majority was right. I said that using emotional charged language and graphic images to basically terrorize people into agreeing with you because you believe you have the superior moral high ground is wrong.
If all of humanity minis one were of one opinion, humanity would be no more justified silencing that one person then that one person would be in silencing humanity.
Actually I said to explain it to them, guess that's too hard?
@offhishedted: Then we have you, the holier then thou attitude who thinks people deserve the consequences of their actions. The problem here, besides you being a douche, is that eating meat and drinking milk is not always doing to lead to an early death in a hospital bed. Sorry, it simply doesn't always happen. Your cure all diet is not a cure all diet. Living longer is not living happier, your body gets to where it starts to degrade regardless of what you eat, although vegs don't live longer.
@DrKyure, I think You are one of those inflammatory personalities with nothing better to do with Your time than bitch & moan, look how many comments You've posted attacking people because they hold a point of view You feel threatened by, I hope that one day You will recognise the sanctity of life and not in a religious way but in the sense that the likelihood of yours or any living beings existence is so infinitesimally small that to destroy it is a vile corruption of this gift we call life
@offhishedted: Feeling pain isn't being aware. Plants feel in their own way and they are not aware. It's an evolutionary skill. If eating other animals is wrong, then all predators are wrong so it doesn't matter much does it? You are hateful to people because of what they eat, you wish ill of them for thinking different, and are no better then Adolf Hitler or a slave owner. Good day sir!
@DrKyure It is already proven that animals are aware! studies based on animal cognition have had clear and possitive results for many many years, an evolutionary skill??? do You understand Evolution? I direct You to Shelley's video on vegans "opinion pushing" I wonder if You actually read what You wrote? and to claim that we have no responsibilty to the wellbeing of any other living being, because "they do it to!" clearly denotes Your lack of thought and genuine comprehension of the matter.
The casein causing cancer has actually yet to be proven, it was studied in the China Study but even the arther acknowledged that more testing needed to be done.
Lets review, a bug is killed by the thousands when their are likely millions if not billions to make a food coloring that doesn't not take away from the flavor of the food and likely provides you with more nutrients.
@Psycatalyst Vegan B12 is extracted from yeast. Yeast is not an animal so it's vegan. You can even get vegan B12 shots if you are low in B12 e.g. You have pernicious anemia.
@marcluc1988 Yopu don't get what I'm saying then. -,-
I'm saying it seems most vocal vegans "Disneyfy" nature to something that should be clean and happy, etc etc. While I can agree on stopping factory farms and puppy mills, which are absolutely pointless, I have no issue with the eating of meat simply because another creature might not like it.
@DarkMuu666 I understand your point about 'Disney' now but I'm sure most intelligent, long-term vegans just want to limit exploitation and suffering. I have seen a lot of 'newbie' vegans who do seem to think veganism is 'a magic solution' to all suffering but I'm sure as they learn, they'll realise it's not a perfect solution.
Skinny Bitch was the final push for me to change my mind and to begin eliminating animal products from my diet! Your way of speaking reminds me so much of how they presented information in that book.
Did you know when you walk on the grass,or ground your steping on every bug that live in the grass and you crush it,so we all have to learn to fly now,but then if we fly to save the bugs we might accidently hit into a bird,oh my god. Your a joke lol
@whitecat735 Veganism doesn't claim to be perfect. That's impossible! It's a way of acting that causes the LEAST amount of harm. Nothing in life is perfect. If you think it is, then YOU are a joke. Not vegans.
@theusedjosh Hi :) Thanks for asking. Technically, anything that uses refined sugar isn't 100% vegan (refined sugar is crushed with bone char (animal bones) to make it finer). But there are vegan lollies available from some places, I generally have to buy them online from vegan stores.
@Shell123ey wow thanks for the info, i had no idea. i bought some vegan chocolat n vanilla pudding the other day, sooo gud, i mix some raw cashews up in there:)
@DrKyure A vegan diet CAN be cheaper if you buy fresh produce. If you buy ready-made foods, it can be more expensive but then so can ready-made nonvegan food.
@marcluc1988: If you buy your produce then changes are that you are not eating vegan food. Just about every food we have in stores have some form of animal products on them, even lemons and the like likely have bees wax on them which isn't vegan.
@DrKyure As far as I'm aware, the only fruit that may be coated with an animal product are apples. They're sometimes coated with shellac to make them look shiny. I just avoid apples that are shiny.
It's true that there will often be times when there are hidden ingredients but the point of veganism is to reduce animal exploitation as far as possible. Nothing is perfect and nor is being vegan.
@marcluc1988: As far as you are aware. Eat bread or only a raw diet? What are the plants grown in, any insects used to aid this? Is that animal slavery too? What about the products you don't eat that are made with animal products, are those ok to have?
OK, then it would be best to tell omnivores they can eat meat but to ask them to eat at humane farms. It would help more then not eating animals (like not killing people saves murder victims) and wouldn't make you look like an arrogant ass.
@DrKyure Learn the true definition of veganism before making these comments. You're talking nonsense.
Veganism is the practise of MINIMISING animal exploitation.
No intelligent vegan would ever claim that he/she does not (unintentionally!) eat animal products. But, eating beef is INTENTIONAL.LY and KNOWINGLY killing animals.
@marcluc1988: The real definition is someone who doesn't eat animal products. It really doesn't mean you are trying to be more human for animals, you could do it for health reasons only. It also doesn't mean you don't or can't wear animal products, that is the typical life style not what the word means.
I've made myself clear with the above comment.
Yes, but that doesn't make it wrong, and not eating beef doesn't save the cows I eat does it? So what animals are saved?
@DrKyure Listen, I work for The Vegan Society and I know the true definition:
"Veganism is a way of living that seeks to exclude, as far as possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing and any other purpose."
I follow this definition. I don't eat, drink, wear or use any product that contains or has been produced by animal products nor by animal testing.
@marcluc1988: I'm sorry, but that is what the vegan society says. The definition of veganism, is one who does not EAT any animal products or by products. From meat to gelatin they don't eat it. What you are saying is no different then an atheist society saying they are pro science when atheist simply means not believing in any divine beings. What you said is more of a mission statement.
@DrKyure If you are following 'a vegan diet' for health reasons but still use other animal products such as leather, fur, wool or products tested on animals, then that person is NOT vegan. Read the official definiton.
Without wishing to be rude. You really don't understand veganism. That's one of the reason for misunderstanding, accusations of hypocrisy and such like. Veganism can not be defined in a sentence. It's a philosophy. You can't learnt it in one day.
dictionary [dot] reference [dot] com /browse/veganism
The def. is one who doesn't eat any animals products. What you are saying is the lifestyle that many vegans live, it's like the atheist def. versus how many live their life. I'm sorry but you are wrong about the def. though you are free to live your life how you want.
@DrKyure Now, you can reply if you like but I have better things to do with my time than to chat to people who aren't willing to listen to a true vegan but seem to think they're an expert on a subject they don't even practise.
@marcluc1988: This is exactly why the "if everyone was a vegan/vegetarian" doesn't work. You are arguing about just how vegan you are. It means diet, but you can do more and still classify yourslef as a vegan. Their ins't a term for people who don't eat any animals products and also don't wear them or have animal tested products (though if you were sick you'll likely have less of a problem with it) besides vegan. Doesn't mean you have to do all that to be one, people just tend to.
@DrKyure The Vegan Society coined the word 'Vegan' in 1944 so I think they have a say in the word. Just because a load of wankers have decided to relax the word and abuse it does not make it the correct meaning.
VEGANS DO NOT EXPLOIT ANIMALS FOR ANY REASON. IF YOU USE ANIMAL PRODUCTS, YOU ARE NOT VEGAN.
You're obviously not vegan so what makes you think you're a fucking expert?
I could call myself a chicken but that doesn't make it so.
@marcluc1988: OK, still can be a vegan if you wear leather. As I'm sure you know, the English language can change. You may not consider other people vegans if they simply don't eat animals products but that is basically what the word means now. Sorry, get over it.
My own meandering experience, and dictionaries, common usage, etc.
If you are this uppity about the word vegan, I do so hope you don't throw murder around at people who eat meat.
@DrKyure In 'common usage', people use the word vegan to mean the diet aspect alone but in true semantical terms, it's the non-use of any product that is as the result of animal exploitation.
The reason marcluc and I are so ticked off is because we sometimes get gifts made of leather, wool, aftershaves for Christmas from those who believe it's acceptable to us. It's very uncomfortable to have to turn down a gift.
@FunVegan: It can mean not using animal products, but its meaning now is eating no animal products. And wouldn't that mean you would be a vegetarian if you inadvertently ate something or used something that was made with animal by-products?
Then you would have to tell them that you don't like these things before hand or accept it and either take it back or give it away, say to a homeless shelter.
You are basically saying you are mad people give you gifts they think you are fine with.
@DrKyure If you want to give your definition of 'veganism' a term, why not use 'following a plant-based diet'. That would be more accurate and less confusing. When I tell people I'm vegan, I mean the original meaning not the watered down one.
@FunVegan: Because a plant based diet is not an animal exclusive diet. Bread can be made with milk and or eggs, more if it's from a store, but it is still plant based. Also because vegans tend to avoid foods that are made including animals, a veg meal might have animal productsadded to it but it has no meat.
Then say so. "I'm a vegan, I eat and use nothing that is made with or from any animals including incests." Long yes, but the term vegan is diet now, though their are different levels to it.
@DrKyure You asked marcluc if he 'throws around the word murder to meat-eaters'. Personally, I only discuss it with people who are genuinely interested. If they're not, I'd be wasting my time and probably alienating them to the concept even more.
Also, it's not a one-way street. I get abuse and insults from lots of nonvegans. You only have to read comments on vegan videos to see the sort of things we daily get. You can walk away from a vegan. We can't walk away from the majority.
@FunVegan: When talking to people who are interested, do you say it is wrong to murder animals so veganism is the way to go?
Some people are assholes because you are different. Other people are assholes because they feel they are being attacked for a choice that the other person has no business having a problem with if it isn't their own. Then you get people calling omnivores corpse eaters. One side fuels the other which in turns fuels the other. A vicious circle.
@FunVegan: In our society the majority is who rules. It isn't always the one other people want but it is how it is. If people around you don't follow what you follow and you don't want to move somewhere where people are like you, then you have to accept that people are different, talk to them if they are willing to listen, and try to give a better view than the stereotype does.
See how I don't say you are dumb for being a veg but others still bitch at me for thinking differently?
@DrKyure Someone who doesn't eat animal products but does use animal products in other areas of their life, they are simply vegetarian.
Now, it's obviously pointless discussing this with you since you (like other nonvegans) know everything even though we vegans live veganism 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
@marcluc1988: No, vegetarians tend to eat non-meat products, like eggs and milk, and sometimes lax on jello depending on the individual, vegans eat no animal products of by-products.
Yes, you live your life not eating animal products (you hope) and that makes you a vegan. Everything else is a personal choice that may be added to your vegan lifestyle but doesn't make you any more or less a vegan in the true meaning of the word.
@DrKyure Another point, not really relevant to your point, is: I've had people serve me meat and expect me to eat it dispite my having told them I'm vegan. Their 'definition' of vegan appears to be "A vegan is someone who doesn't normally eat meat but does occasionally." That's the slippery slope you're taking it down. Again, it's an awkward situation when someone cooks you a meal and you have to turn it down.
@FunVegan: Then that is being rude unless you are their on a day they were having beef soup. I still think explaining what you believe is better then saying the word. Do you eat honey or do you not? Some vegans do other don't.
That is a "weak vegan" and a freeatarian. Again, multiple meanings to one word. Explain what you personally believe before you eat at their house.
How many times has this happened and why do you keep going to eat at other people's houses?
Vegan Lollies are made from sugar. Sugar cane is prepared in the field by burning. This causes a horrible death for millions of animals and billions of insects every year. They are burned alive.
Yes it really is I own it. I must admit I fell of the wagon and had a bowl of cow milk cereal then out of nowhere watch your video...... Hence I will be reading Skinny B again...Thanks for the post!!!
People need to be aware of the shit they eat.
I prefer to avoid industrial fishit altogether and actually SEE what I eat, and know WHAT it is.
Well, many people (especially the american consumer) simply shove everything to their mouth without any thought about it... Their very culture has driven them to Not ask questions and just take whatever crap given to them has gold, and there are many others who are blind exactly the same way.
Ignorants love to just "move along" and not question anything.
Wharwulif 2 weeks ago
Thank you for this video.
You're beautiful.
natureasintended 1 month ago
i'd like to begin a vegan diet as well. i don't eat much meat or anything like that to begin with - i don't like it, but these are very helpful full of great information most people are not aware of.
kayteeschuie 1 month ago in playlist More videos from Shell123ey
Not gonna lie! Those beetles taste good then! c:
willbo26 1 month ago
@Fishncapt26.....ok if u disagree ...prove her wrong then. Thats the only way...with facts. Just like she did. With a source that we can look into, and actually proves her wrong. Otherwise, dont just come and comment something you dont know about.
pinguinitacori 2 months ago
@fishncapt26 shut the fuck up u goofy ass bitch!!!!!
PAKETEMON 3 months ago
anyone who listens or believes single word out of this psychotic insane lunatic peta psycho you are too stupid and should have life revoked before you breed or vote. this insane liar has never said single fact figure number word that isnt blatant lies lunacy peta propaganda. its so scary someone this insane and this dishonest is allowed continue flooding you tube and trying deceive manipulate young women and weak minded sheeple. if you listen believe 1 word from this psycho please die asap
fishncapt26 3 months ago
@fishncapt26 Do meat eaters feel guilty about eating meat? Check out this video? /watch?v=MzXlsTKndGA
haridham 3 months ago
thank you for this. though i find it hard to remember all the weird names of these things, i think its just better to avoid things that have unfamiliar names. its shocking how many 'hidden' animal products there are in everyday food!
xCowsCanFly 4 months ago in playlist More videos from Shell123ey
WOW! thank you for the information. i had no idea about the food dye.... wow... really! thank you
ovechkin100 4 months ago
If you are so concerned about every living thing then why do vegans buy their food from farms that still use such barbaric methods, how many insects and small mammals die horrable deaths as a result of conventional farming methods? Think your hydroponic stuff is any better...WRONG! The high volume discharge from those farms is highly toxic and is dumped into your rivers and streams. If you want to reduce you killing of anamals the only way to go is aquaponic grown food, which is very pricy.
lukethibodaux 4 months ago
ewww thank god i like green lollie pops
DCakaElfboy 4 months ago
@Shell123ey I started today as a vegan, and I don't know what to do, Iv'e looked through websites, but in Puerto Rico there's barely anything I can eat, especially at school, plus, I don't wanna give up candy and chocolate, so what can I do?
JACNtv 4 months ago 2
@JACNtv :) Yayyy!! :D!! Well you may want to start making your own food, and bringing it to school. I was doing that from age 12 upward. You can make lots of candies and treats using pretty basic ingredients, like Toffee Apples! And if you want some colouring, you can make them whatever colour you want! Green's my favourite! (You might even get a green tongue! :P) Lots of recipes are on google. Make some for your friends too! Or, you might be able to order vegan candies online!
Shell123ey 4 months ago 3
@Shell123ey I don't think I can order candy online, I'm just so obssessed with candy and I stopped all of the sudden that I'm dying inside, I accidentally ate funyuns and I had the curiosity to check the ingredients, it said it had buttermilk on it, so I gave it to a friend, It was really hard to let go, after 15 years of eating all of that and stopping all of the sudden is not easy, but I'm doing what I can, thanks!! :D
JACNtv 4 months ago
@Shell123ey I've recently gone vegan, but my parents are really aggravated with me about it. In stores, how do you know what is completely vegan? Do you have to stand in the store for hours reading labels over and over with a check list of animal derived products? This is really an issue for me!! How do you know what you can buy, without starving??
RSbubblegirl 1 month ago
@Shell123ey, hey I was wondering something, I'm a Christian vegan and I'm trying to get my church to watch Earthlings, any suggestions? Based on you're videos I can tell you're pretty good at persuasive arguments. I've actually worked with an ag research center, and I've witnessed some horrible things, which is why I'm vegan now, but people think I'm uneducated about what really goes on even though I've seen it, and so they won't listen.
cathavenfostermom1 1 day ago
This doesn't disgust me as much as i think it should have :/
Yuri92001 5 months ago
at the end of the day we r animals. we r who we r. im getting hungry. brb getting me sum meduim rare steak
Infamousking27 5 months ago
Distributed Vegans are weak, Unified Vegans are strong, we must unite and let it begin. we need a definitive method, almost like our own nation but not on territorial grounds, maybe an online society, I don't know just something 2 united us all. who's with me?
deanmullen10 5 months ago
we must really inform ourselves!
MsOhayoOhio 5 months ago
eating anything that comes out of a package and not out of the ground seems to require a certain level of detective skills…now since i'm trying to go vegan…i think i'll be okay without the meat but the getting away from the products that use dairy and eggs will be harder for me i think…but i'll do it! even when you're trying your best though you still encounter these random things you wouldn't think of
MsOhayoOhio 5 months ago
Really disturbing but really important to know. I'm shocked to think of how much non vegan stuff I may have eaten over the years even while trying my best to avoid animal products, so thanks for the info!
MrVeggieman11 5 months ago
cochineal is also known as E120
some other E numbers may or may not be made of animal products - you have to check with the producer. other E numbers are not derived from animal products.
squarekolt 6 months ago
Thank you so much. this is disgusting
duckcluck123 7 months ago
Lactic acid in commercial products comes from carbohydrate fermenation. While lactic acid exists in muscle tissue and blood, this is never a source of commercial lactic acid for use in any product.
soilmanted1 7 months ago
holy shiiiiaaaat...not touching lollipops again!!! argh!!
TheAnonymousAdvocate 7 months ago
I just finished reading Skinny Bitch the other day and loved it too! That's so gross about the crushed bugs! I had no idea! EW!
cinemaforever7 8 months ago
what an ugly bitch
SirBullet754 9 months ago
Not like manufacturers gather a bunch of insects and dump it into the foods they make. Insects are fascinating..but they can be dumb little creatures. They just go where foods are, including food-manufacturing factories. It's not the manufacturers' fault they get crushed in the machines..
anabananie88 10 months ago
@anabananie88 Insects aren't animals. I don't know why she's warning Vegans. Her argument would be more relative if she were warning us that birds often fly into air plane turbines so we shouldn't fly.
IconoGreene 10 months ago
@IconoGreene You might want to refresh your knowledge of general biology. Insects are members of the Kingdom Animalia. Therefore, they are animals.
DarkZoologist 7 months ago
@DarkZoologist You - 1 Me - 0.
IconoGreene 7 months ago
Cystine is a required substance by the human body.
It's an amino acid. It's protein. Protein is just the same for a variety of different amino acids, one of which humans need is cystine. I guess if it's labelled as a specific substance on a food then maybe it's sourced from horses, I have no idea.
CCmachine 10 months ago
"World English Dictionary
vegan
— n a person who refrains from using any animal product whatever for food, clothing, or any other purpose "
Wikipedia:
"Veganism is the practice of eliminating the use by human beings of animal products. Ethical vegans reject the commodity status of animals and the use of animal products for any purpose"
marcluc1988 1 year ago
And for some reason it seems to be North Americans that have diluted the word. Rather like some call themselves vegetarian even though they eat fish. I'm only glad that Bill Clinton doesn't call himself vegan because he isn't.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
If you live in the UK, you can check if a product is vegan by checking on the Animal Free Shopper.
Google it as web links can't be posted her.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
I wonder how many kids would still enjoy their sweets if they knew they have beetles in them, that the glaze on many 'shiny' sweets is from the lac insect or the chewiness is from boiled animal bones.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
Cochineal is also labelled as E120 in the EU.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
I am shocked at the childishness of some people, This Young girl is trying to share useful information with You which can help prolong your exitence and all You can do is act like a bunch of immature children, I'm almost glad You'll suffer the consequence of Your actions!
I am a farmers son and have grown up on the family farm, we do not do factory farming but i still choose to be vegetarian because it is OBVIOUS that eating another individual is wrong, and THEY ARE AWARE! it has been proven!
offhishedted 1 year ago
@offhishedted: The same to the people who act shocked when people disagree with them. And this isn't useful information, it is weighted language that is meant to shock people into following what she thinks is moral for lack of actually scientific evidence from credible sources. One study says that milk causes bone loss (The China Study) and the author even said more evidence is needed about it causing cancer. More evidence is needed period for that study.
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure This is too complicated to discuss in text. Even in person, it's not easy. The majority 'set the rules', you say but we all have something about us that doesn't fit with the majority and, in these cases, most people who are caring will try to accomodate.
You ask me why do I keep eating with meat-eaters if some of them don't quite 'get it'. I can't 'disconnect' socially with society. Most of my friends understand but there's always going to be some who just don't 'get it'.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@marcluc1988: I never said that the majority was right. I said that using emotional charged language and graphic images to basically terrorize people into agreeing with you because you believe you have the superior moral high ground is wrong.
If all of humanity minis one were of one opinion, humanity would be no more justified silencing that one person then that one person would be in silencing humanity.
Actually I said to explain it to them, guess that's too hard?
DrKyure 11 months ago
@offhishedted: Then we have you, the holier then thou attitude who thinks people deserve the consequences of their actions. The problem here, besides you being a douche, is that eating meat and drinking milk is not always doing to lead to an early death in a hospital bed. Sorry, it simply doesn't always happen. Your cure all diet is not a cure all diet. Living longer is not living happier, your body gets to where it starts to degrade regardless of what you eat, although vegs don't live longer.
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure, I think You are one of those inflammatory personalities with nothing better to do with Your time than bitch & moan, look how many comments You've posted attacking people because they hold a point of view You feel threatened by, I hope that one day You will recognise the sanctity of life and not in a religious way but in the sense that the likelihood of yours or any living beings existence is so infinitesimally small that to destroy it is a vile corruption of this gift we call life
offhishedted 11 months ago
@offhishedted: Feeling pain isn't being aware. Plants feel in their own way and they are not aware. It's an evolutionary skill. If eating other animals is wrong, then all predators are wrong so it doesn't matter much does it? You are hateful to people because of what they eat, you wish ill of them for thinking different, and are no better then Adolf Hitler or a slave owner. Good day sir!
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure It is already proven that animals are aware! studies based on animal cognition have had clear and possitive results for many many years, an evolutionary skill??? do You understand Evolution? I direct You to Shelley's video on vegans "opinion pushing" I wonder if You actually read what You wrote? and to claim that we have no responsibilty to the wellbeing of any other living being, because "they do it to!" clearly denotes Your lack of thought and genuine comprehension of the matter.
offhishedted 11 months ago
The casein causing cancer has actually yet to be proven, it was studied in the China Study but even the arther acknowledged that more testing needed to be done.
DrKyure 1 year ago
Lets review, a bug is killed by the thousands when their are likely millions if not billions to make a food coloring that doesn't not take away from the flavor of the food and likely provides you with more nutrients.
And I'm suppose to care why?
DrKyure 1 year ago
Did you know B12 comes from meat and is not found in any plant product
Psycatalyst 1 year ago
@Psycatalyst Vegan B12 is extracted from yeast. Yeast is not an animal so it's vegan. You can even get vegan B12 shots if you are low in B12 e.g. You have pernicious anemia.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@marcluc1988
Yeast does not have B12 naturally. It is only present in GMO yeast T-6635+
Psycatalyst 1 year ago
@Psycatalyst I'm sure that's not true but even if it were, it's still B12 and still vegan.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
Wow. I think I'm convinced most vegans are totally clueless as to the machinations of nature. Eh, I blame Disney.
DarkMuu666 1 year ago
@DarkMuu666 If you think Disney is the cause of veganism, then it's you who is clueless about the reality.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@marcluc1988 Yopu don't get what I'm saying then. -,-
I'm saying it seems most vocal vegans "Disneyfy" nature to something that should be clean and happy, etc etc. While I can agree on stopping factory farms and puppy mills, which are absolutely pointless, I have no issue with the eating of meat simply because another creature might not like it.
DarkMuu666 1 year ago
@DarkMuu666 I understand your point about 'Disney' now but I'm sure most intelligent, long-term vegans just want to limit exploitation and suffering. I have seen a lot of 'newbie' vegans who do seem to think veganism is 'a magic solution' to all suffering but I'm sure as they learn, they'll realise it's not a perfect solution.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@marcluc1988 That was refreshing to hear...usually this ends in a flame war :)
DarkMuu666 1 year ago
Crushed beetles OMG EWW
exquisite6 1 year ago
Skinny Bitch was the final push for me to change my mind and to begin eliminating animal products from my diet! Your way of speaking reminds me so much of how they presented information in that book.
VermilionVoodoo 1 year ago
"Casein is a known cancer-growth promoter!"
No, it's not.
You can say it is all you want, but it is not. Unless you can provide an independent study from a credible science institution saying that it is.
Than it still is not.
RingwormRob 1 year ago
also Casein can be found in condoms >.> make sure to buy the vegan ones
Icewolf16 1 year ago
Did you know when you walk on the grass,or ground your steping on every bug that live in the grass and you crush it,so we all have to learn to fly now,but then if we fly to save the bugs we might accidently hit into a bird,oh my god. Your a joke lol
whitecat735 1 year ago
@whitecat735 Veganism doesn't claim to be perfect. That's impossible! It's a way of acting that causes the LEAST amount of harm. Nothing in life is perfect. If you think it is, then YOU are a joke. Not vegans.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
you forgot crushed oesophagus ie THROAT they put in bread mixes as dough conditioner
TheJUNGLESURFER 1 year ago
are other colored lolipops vegan?
theusedjosh 1 year ago
@theusedjosh Hi :) Thanks for asking. Technically, anything that uses refined sugar isn't 100% vegan (refined sugar is crushed with bone char (animal bones) to make it finer). But there are vegan lollies available from some places, I generally have to buy them online from vegan stores.
Hope that helps!
Shell123ey 1 year ago 2
@Shell123ey wow thanks for the info, i had no idea. i bought some vegan chocolat n vanilla pudding the other day, sooo gud, i mix some raw cashews up in there:)
theusedjosh 1 year ago
@theusedjosh Oooh yum! You're welcome! =)
Shell123ey 1 year ago
@Shell123ey: And people say the vegan diet is cheaper then eating meat.
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure A vegan diet CAN be cheaper if you buy fresh produce. If you buy ready-made foods, it can be more expensive but then so can ready-made nonvegan food.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@marcluc1988: If you buy your produce then changes are that you are not eating vegan food. Just about every food we have in stores have some form of animal products on them, even lemons and the like likely have bees wax on them which isn't vegan.
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure As far as I'm aware, the only fruit that may be coated with an animal product are apples. They're sometimes coated with shellac to make them look shiny. I just avoid apples that are shiny.
It's true that there will often be times when there are hidden ingredients but the point of veganism is to reduce animal exploitation as far as possible. Nothing is perfect and nor is being vegan.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@marcluc1988: As far as you are aware. Eat bread or only a raw diet? What are the plants grown in, any insects used to aid this? Is that animal slavery too? What about the products you don't eat that are made with animal products, are those ok to have?
OK, then it would be best to tell omnivores they can eat meat but to ask them to eat at humane farms. It would help more then not eating animals (like not killing people saves murder victims) and wouldn't make you look like an arrogant ass.
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure Learn the true definition of veganism before making these comments. You're talking nonsense.
Veganism is the practise of MINIMISING animal exploitation.
No intelligent vegan would ever claim that he/she does not (unintentionally!) eat animal products. But, eating beef is INTENTIONAL.LY and KNOWINGLY killing animals.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@marcluc1988: The real definition is someone who doesn't eat animal products. It really doesn't mean you are trying to be more human for animals, you could do it for health reasons only. It also doesn't mean you don't or can't wear animal products, that is the typical life style not what the word means.
I've made myself clear with the above comment.
Yes, but that doesn't make it wrong, and not eating beef doesn't save the cows I eat does it? So what animals are saved?
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure Listen, I work for The Vegan Society and I know the true definition:
"Veganism is a way of living that seeks to exclude, as far as possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing and any other purpose."
I follow this definition. I don't eat, drink, wear or use any product that contains or has been produced by animal products nor by animal testing.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@marcluc1988: I'm sorry, but that is what the vegan society says. The definition of veganism, is one who does not EAT any animal products or by products. From meat to gelatin they don't eat it. What you are saying is no different then an atheist society saying they are pro science when atheist simply means not believing in any divine beings. What you said is more of a mission statement.
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure If you are following 'a vegan diet' for health reasons but still use other animal products such as leather, fur, wool or products tested on animals, then that person is NOT vegan. Read the official definiton.
Without wishing to be rude. You really don't understand veganism. That's one of the reason for misunderstanding, accusations of hypocrisy and such like. Veganism can not be defined in a sentence. It's a philosophy. You can't learnt it in one day.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@marcluc1988:
merriam-webster [dot] com /dictionary/vegan
dictionary [dot] reference [dot] com /browse/veganism
The def. is one who doesn't eat any animals products. What you are saying is the lifestyle that many vegans live, it's like the atheist def. versus how many live their life. I'm sorry but you are wrong about the def. though you are free to live your life how you want.
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure Now, you can reply if you like but I have better things to do with my time than to chat to people who aren't willing to listen to a true vegan but seem to think they're an expert on a subject they don't even practise.
Thanks and have a nice day.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@marcluc1988: This is exactly why the "if everyone was a vegan/vegetarian" doesn't work. You are arguing about just how vegan you are. It means diet, but you can do more and still classify yourslef as a vegan. Their ins't a term for people who don't eat any animals products and also don't wear them or have animal tested products (though if you were sick you'll likely have less of a problem with it) besides vegan. Doesn't mean you have to do all that to be one, people just tend to.
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure The Vegan Society coined the word 'Vegan' in 1944 so I think they have a say in the word. Just because a load of wankers have decided to relax the word and abuse it does not make it the correct meaning.
VEGANS DO NOT EXPLOIT ANIMALS FOR ANY REASON. IF YOU USE ANIMAL PRODUCTS, YOU ARE NOT VEGAN.
You're obviously not vegan so what makes you think you're a fucking expert?
I could call myself a chicken but that doesn't make it so.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@marcluc1988: OK, still can be a vegan if you wear leather. As I'm sure you know, the English language can change. You may not consider other people vegans if they simply don't eat animals products but that is basically what the word means now. Sorry, get over it.
My own meandering experience, and dictionaries, common usage, etc.
If you are this uppity about the word vegan, I do so hope you don't throw murder around at people who eat meat.
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure In 'common usage', people use the word vegan to mean the diet aspect alone but in true semantical terms, it's the non-use of any product that is as the result of animal exploitation.
The reason marcluc and I are so ticked off is because we sometimes get gifts made of leather, wool, aftershaves for Christmas from those who believe it's acceptable to us. It's very uncomfortable to have to turn down a gift.
FunVegan 1 year ago
@FunVegan: It can mean not using animal products, but its meaning now is eating no animal products. And wouldn't that mean you would be a vegetarian if you inadvertently ate something or used something that was made with animal by-products?
Then you would have to tell them that you don't like these things before hand or accept it and either take it back or give it away, say to a homeless shelter.
You are basically saying you are mad people give you gifts they think you are fine with.
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure If you want to give your definition of 'veganism' a term, why not use 'following a plant-based diet'. That would be more accurate and less confusing. When I tell people I'm vegan, I mean the original meaning not the watered down one.
FunVegan 1 year ago
@FunVegan: Because a plant based diet is not an animal exclusive diet. Bread can be made with milk and or eggs, more if it's from a store, but it is still plant based. Also because vegans tend to avoid foods that are made including animals, a veg meal might have animal productsadded to it but it has no meat.
Then say so. "I'm a vegan, I eat and use nothing that is made with or from any animals including incests." Long yes, but the term vegan is diet now, though their are different levels to it.
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure You asked marcluc if he 'throws around the word murder to meat-eaters'. Personally, I only discuss it with people who are genuinely interested. If they're not, I'd be wasting my time and probably alienating them to the concept even more.
Also, it's not a one-way street. I get abuse and insults from lots of nonvegans. You only have to read comments on vegan videos to see the sort of things we daily get. You can walk away from a vegan. We can't walk away from the majority.
FunVegan 1 year ago
@FunVegan: When talking to people who are interested, do you say it is wrong to murder animals so veganism is the way to go?
Some people are assholes because you are different. Other people are assholes because they feel they are being attacked for a choice that the other person has no business having a problem with if it isn't their own. Then you get people calling omnivores corpse eaters. One side fuels the other which in turns fuels the other. A vicious circle.
DrKyure 1 year ago
@FunVegan: In our society the majority is who rules. It isn't always the one other people want but it is how it is. If people around you don't follow what you follow and you don't want to move somewhere where people are like you, then you have to accept that people are different, talk to them if they are willing to listen, and try to give a better view than the stereotype does.
See how I don't say you are dumb for being a veg but others still bitch at me for thinking differently?
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure Someone who doesn't eat animal products but does use animal products in other areas of their life, they are simply vegetarian.
Now, it's obviously pointless discussing this with you since you (like other nonvegans) know everything even though we vegans live veganism 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
Goodbye.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@marcluc1988: No, vegetarians tend to eat non-meat products, like eggs and milk, and sometimes lax on jello depending on the individual, vegans eat no animal products of by-products.
Yes, you live your life not eating animal products (you hope) and that makes you a vegan. Everything else is a personal choice that may be added to your vegan lifestyle but doesn't make you any more or less a vegan in the true meaning of the word.
DrKyure 1 year ago
@DrKyure Another point, not really relevant to your point, is: I've had people serve me meat and expect me to eat it dispite my having told them I'm vegan. Their 'definition' of vegan appears to be "A vegan is someone who doesn't normally eat meat but does occasionally." That's the slippery slope you're taking it down. Again, it's an awkward situation when someone cooks you a meal and you have to turn it down.
FunVegan 1 year ago
@FunVegan: Then that is being rude unless you are their on a day they were having beef soup. I still think explaining what you believe is better then saying the word. Do you eat honey or do you not? Some vegans do other don't.
That is a "weak vegan" and a freeatarian. Again, multiple meanings to one word. Explain what you personally believe before you eat at their house.
How many times has this happened and why do you keep going to eat at other people's houses?
DrKyure 1 year ago
@Shell123ey There are brands (in the UK) that are vegan. But I generally avoid sugary products but, when I do, I use unprocessed brown sugar.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@Shell123ey "But there are vegan lollies"
Vegan Lollies are made from sugar. Sugar cane is prepared in the field by burning. This causes a horrible death for millions of animals and billions of insects every year. They are burned alive.
rosepetal108 9 months ago
Yes it really is I own it. I must admit I fell of the wagon and had a bowl of cow milk cereal then out of nowhere watch your video...... Hence I will be reading Skinny B again...Thanks for the post!!!
joheak 1 year ago
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joheak 1 year ago
Skinny Bitch ....ahhh yes! Great book!!! Thank you for posting.
suzsawyer7 1 year ago
Got - 'Skeeny Beetch in the Keetch' - Oz printing :)
ChilliNonCarn 1 year ago
Very informative, thank you ;)
MissChol 1 year ago
Very true :) thanks for making this video. I enjoyed it very much.
porolita22 1 year ago