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If Jesus was merely a created super-being, then His death for man’s redemption is no better than an angel dying for us.If Christ is not deity itself,then any angel or sinless created being could have served the purpose.This would have virtually sustained Satan’s charge that God is selfish by demonstrating that He is only willing to sacrifice His creation and not Himself. “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ,& the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen” 2Cor 13:14
1-Mga kapatid, hindi ko nais na hindi ninyo malaman na ang ating mga ninuno ay dumaan sa ilalim ng ulap, at silang lahat ay tumawid sa dagat, at lahat ay nabautismuhan kay Moises sa ulap at sa dagat; at lahat ay kumain ng isang pagkaing espiritual; at lahat ay uminom ng isang inuming espiritual.Sapagkat sila'y umiinom sa batong espiritual na sumunod sa kanila, at ang BATONG IYON AY SI CRISTO. 1Cor10:1-4
2-Isinasaad sa Isa 9:6ang kalagayan ni Cristo:Sapagkat sa atin ay ipinanganak ang isang bata, sa atin ay ibinigay ang isang anak na lalaki; at ang pamamahala ay maaatang sa kanyang balikat; at ang kanyang pangalan at tatawaging "Kamanghamanghang Tagapayo, Makapangyarihanng DIYOS, Walang hanggang AMA, Prinsipe ng kapayapaan."
Ano ang pagkahayag kay Cristo?Maliwanag na Siya ay DIYOS at AMA.
Bakit Siya ay nagkatawang tao?Sino si Cristo noon at ngayon ayon sa talatang ito ng Banal na Kasulatan?
1-3 There is only one God but He is not limited. Exodus 13:21 says, "And the Lord went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night." And Jesus said, I am the light of the world: he that followed me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life." John 8:12 ( The parallelism here is clear....)
2-3 Siya ay naging ulap o apuy (ilaw) na hindi naalis ang kanyang pagkaDiyos. Si Cristo ay naging tao, ang anyo ng Diyos. Bakit hindi? He claims that He is the light. The Lord God became a pillar of fire (to give light) = the Lord Jesus became a man (to give light). Ang Diyos ba ay pwedeng maging ulap o apoy ngunit hindi Siya pwedeng maging tao?
3-3"..Ama sana makilala ka nila .." papano ito kung wala ang Diyos na si Cristo na naging tao pansamantala? Ang pagkadiyos (katangiang angkin) ni Cristo ay kailangang makilala ng tao upang makilala rin nila ang Diyos Ama. Ang pagiging tao ni Cristo ay pansamantala lamang upang maligtas ang tao. Kung nanatili Siyang Diyos lamang kelan man wala tayong kaligtasan. Iniluwal siya ni Maria upang patunay na Siyay tao na magsakripisyo para tayoy maligtas. Itoy pansamantala lamang pra sa dakilang misyon.
You know there in Genesis, it tells us God said, “Let Us make man in Our Image.” And later when man sinned, God said, “man has become like Us [plural].” So you find all the way from Genesis to Revelation the teaching of God being a Triune God. The Angels say, “Holy, Holy, Holy” for each member of the Godhead there in Isaiah chapter 6
You know there in Genesis, it tells us God said, “Let Us make man in Our Image.” And later when man sinned, God said, “man has become like Us [plural].” So you find all the way from Genesis to Revelation the teaching of God being a Triune God. The Angels say, “Holy, Holy, Holy” for each member of the Godhead there in Isaiah chapter 6.
Jesus said a man leaves his father and mother, cleaves unto his wife, they become one flesh. Well they’re two in reality. We know they’re two separate, distinct persons. They’re now one unit of a family. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are united in their purpose of creation, of redemption, and saving man.
So you’ve got three distinct Persons that are making up God.First John 5:7 says, ‘…for there are Three that bear record in Heaven [there’s three, very simple]. The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.’ Now some people get confused and they say, ‘ “these three are one? How can They be three in one?” ’ All you’ve got to do is remember that in the HEBREW MIND, ONE meant UNITY.
So there you have another example of those three Entities that the Bible speaks of. The three Persons of the Godhead – you know when Jesus was baptized is a good example where you can see they’re three separate Entities. Christ, God the son, comes out of the water at His baptism. The Voice of God the Father says, “This is My Beloved Son….” Incidentally, this is Matthew chapter 3. Then the Holy Spirit descends in the Form of a Dove.
the doctrine of the Godhead, where Jesus said baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, you can find three distinct Individuals outlined in the Bible.And there are so many references to it: not only Matthew 28:19 but if you go to 2nd Corinthians 13, verses 13 and 14, he says, in his conclusion he says, ‘All of the saints salute you. [Notice] The Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, [that would be the Father] and the communion of the Holy Ghost be with you all.’
ito po basahin nyo po na bawal gumawa ng larawang inanyuan or images, ito po ang sitas sana maliwanagan na po kayo sa sitas na ito.....................DEUTERONOMIO 5:7-9...gudluck po sa inyo ^^<
@virgoboy84 Yeah? No evidences for Christ's being equal to God? I and the Father are one. (John 10:30). Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: (Philippians 2:5). Its in the bible. Its just that you don't want to accept it.
@shaoran1026 Here I am again. For additional information about the trinity, please go to amazingfactsdotcom and search for "The trinity: is it biblical"? Or you can search in google &go to the same website This site is very informative and educational. You can also read "The search for the True Church". Please read it first then let me know what you think. I'm open for comments. You will find out also if Christ really is God. Are there evidences on that? Please read the article first. Thank you.
Here I am again. For additional information about the trinity, please go to amazingfactsdotcom and search for The trinity: is it biblical? This site is very informative and educational. Please read it first then let me know what you think. I'm open for comments. You will find out also if Christ is God? Are there evidences on that? Please read the article first. Thank you
Ang mali sa paniniwala ng mga Sabadista eh katulad na katulad ng Father ang Son. Mas great (dakila) ang Father at si Jesus ang nagsabi niyan. My father is greater than I. tama ang nabasa ng INCM na may hindi alam ang Anak na alam ng Ama. Kapag sinabi ng Panginoong Jesus, paniwalaan natin. Yon ang faith. Kapag tintuulan natin si Christ, anti-Christ tayo.
@rapturedpassage An Amazing Fact: Science tells us that light is constituted of three primary rays or groups of wavelengths.Clearly distinct from each other, none of them without the others could be light. Each ray has its own separate function. The 1st originates, the 2nd illuminates, &the 3rd consummates.The 1st ray, often called invisible light, is neither seen nor felt. The 2nd is both seen and felt. The 3rd is not seen but is felt as heat. First paragraph of the Article.1 John 5:7.
@rapturedpassage Here I am again. For additional information about the trinity, please go to amazingfactsdotcom and search for "The trinity: is it biblical"? Or you can search in google &go to the same website This site is very informative and educational. You can also read "The search for the True Church". Please read it first then let me know what you think. I'm open for comments. You will find out also if Christ really is God. Are there evidences on that? Please read the article first.
nako larawan na naman ang pinag uusapan ng mga demonyong ito..... manuod kayo nga debate na ito kahit na ehh walang masyadong alam si thomson sa logic... takot ang manalonians sa logic..
@MrCatholicapologist You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.You shall not bow down to them or worship them; Deuteronomy 5 ...GUMAWA NGA LANG NG REBULTO BAWAL NA YUNG YUKUDAN MO PA KAYA?MALABO BA YAN?
lumuluhod kami as a sign of our deepest humility and respect, naniniwala kasi kami sa presensya kung sino talaga ang nasa rebulto. example, rebulto ni Jesus. alam ng puso ko, hindi ang rebulto ang sinasamba ko kundi si Jesus. hindi ibig sabihin lumuluhod, sinasamba na. dependi sa pag gamit yan. example pag luhod sa kaaway natin para humingi ng kapatawaran sa nagawa natin sa kanila.
@zaraki8000 BAWAL LUMUHOD KAHIT SA KAAWAY MO KAPATID KAHIT KANINO MALIBAN SA DIYOS ..BASAHIN MO ANG DAHIL KUNG BAKIT PINAPATAY NI HAMAN ANG MHA HUDYO SA IRAN (PERSIA).NOONG PANAHON NI ESTHER >>>
@zaraki8000 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.You shall not bow down to them or worship them; Deuteronomy 5 ...GUMAWA NGA LANG NG REBULTO BAWAL NA YUNG YUKUDAN MO PA KAYA?MALABO BA YAN?
pikon ako sa mga taong feeling mga correct!! kasi, nakikita ko minsan sa palabas nyo sa tv palagi nyo tinitirahan nyo ang Catholic, nag mamarunong kasi kaayo mga iglesia ni manalo. marami ng persecution at paninira ang dumaan sa Church simula pa nong naitatag ito, hangang sa ngayon nandito pa.
at sabihin mo sa ministro mo at eh sak2x jan sa baga mo na kayo ang nag iimbento ng sariling bagong doktrina sa iglesia nyo!! get lost IGLESIA NI MANALO
kulang talaga kayo sa explanation wag kayo mag husga agad. lahat ng binibentang nyo, matagal na yan sinagot ng Simbahan. hindi kami sumasamba ng rebulto o mga imahen. kung meron man gumagawa nyan tanga sya. Ave maria!!
@zaraki8000 So idolatry is not just venerating a statue, carving or painting. Idolatry occurs when we begin to value anything more than we value God. If we spend more time thinking about our hero than God, that's idolatry. If our every thought is about the latest gadget or our personal appearance, that's idolatry. If the first priority in our lives is our family, even that's idolatry. Everything else must come after.
outside of Holy Catholic Church, there are 39,000 different churches.. at iba iba ang mga founder, at gumawa ng bagong doktrina. all of them are claim na sila ang totoong simbahan ni Jesus...at mali silang lahat, kasali na ang simbahan mo jan. iisa lang talaga ang totoo, our Holy Mother Church..the bride of Christ... itong sinasabi ko, hindi ito paninira. this is the TRUTH!! open your heart... See Ephesians 4:4-5
God is not divided, God revealed only one religion. one, holy, apostolic, Catholic Church!! St Ignatius of Antioch, isang bishop at meron syang letter tumutukoy sa Simbahan ni Cristo, tinawag nya itong ''Catholic'' meaning ''Universal'' Church of Christ. at nag ordained sa kanya ay si Peter. sabi ni Jesus, he who is not with me, is against me...
kaya nga tayo natubos sa ating mga kasalanan dahil si Jesus ay Diyos. kung hindi Diyos si Jesus, kung siya ay isang propeta lang or isang karaniwang sugo..kung ganun matagal natayo nailigtas dahil marami ng propeta ipinadala si God the Father dito sa lupa bago pa man dumating si Jesus. this in the end would make sense.
Et dixit mihi : Factum est : ego sum alpha et omega, initium et finis. Ego sitienti dabo de fonte aquæ vitæ, gratis. Qui vicerit, possidebit hæc : et ero illi Deus, et ille erit mihi filius. Amen
ang tagal nang pinag-aaralan ng mga SDA na to ang INC, imposibleng hindi nila alam na ang tanging talata lang na gingamit ng INC sa Lamsa translation ay ang gawa 20:28. LOL
Against those who refuse to believe until they understand: "For I do not seek to understand that I may believe, but I believe that I may understand. For this I also believe, that unless I believe, I should not understand. -St. Anselm
Sa lumang tipan, ipinapakilala ng Diyos ang kanyang sarili hindi bilang iisang persona, kundi mga ''persona.'' sa hebreo ang salitang ginagamit para sa Diyos ay hindi ''El'' na pangalang pang isa, kundi pangalan na pang maramihan na ''ELOHIM'' na hindi kailanman pwedeng maisalin bilang diyos na isang persona tulad na ating madalas gawin.
Mag basa na lang kayo ng Catechism sa aming Simbahan, mga Counsils etc regarding to our faith. Isa itong mahabang usapan, hindi ko kayang ipaliwanag lahat dito. ito lang masasabi ko, sa simula iisa ating paniniwala, kung hindi lang dumating yang sinasabi nyong mga propeta o mga sugo ng Diyos. hindi sana tau nagkaka ganito. 2 Peter 2:1-3
@mckill2007 - may punto ka jan at sa tingin ko magaling kang pilosopo. pero ano pa mang pamimilosopong gawin mo hindi mo pa ring kayang tutulan ang katotohanan na ang Ama ang tunay na Diyos at hindi ang Cristo. kahit anong bali-balikong gawin ninyo lalabas pa rin ang katotohanan. so kung ikaw ay nagsasalita para lang sa kapurihan mo para sabihin ng tao na magaling ka... wag ka sa mga INC mag ganyan kasi halata na namin iyon at naaawa lang kami sa iyo.
@mckill2007 - nako pow! mamimilospo ka na naman. eh kailangan ko pa bang sagutin sa iyo yan eh mukhang idol na idol mo ang INC. alam mo na ang nagiisang tunay na Diyos sa amin ay ang Ama na siyang gumawa sa Cristo na panginoon at ipinag-utos na sambahin.
@mckill2007 Di mo ata naintindihan. Hindi lang iisa ang panginoon. Yan muna ang tandaan mo. Wag mo ipagpilitan na iisa lang ang panginoon dahil maraming tao na tinawag na panginoon.
Ang amo mo sa trabaho ay pwede mo rin tawagin panginoon dahil nakakataas siya sa yo.
Ang Landlord kung tittingnan mabuti ay panginoon ng lupa, panginoon siya ng mga taong nangungupahan dahil nakakataas siya sa kanila.
Wag mo ipagpilitan yung tanong mo dahil mali ang intindi mo sa panginoon.
@shaoran1026 wala akong pinatutunayang IISA LANG ANG PANGINOON, sinulat ko lang yan dahil pilit kayo ng pilit sa isang talata na ONLY GOD ngayon may mababasa na ONLY LORD ayaw nyong tanggapin???
kung INC ka, kontra ka sa bro mong isa dahil inamin nyan na IISA LANG ANG PANGINOON based on 1 Cor 8:6...
juan 17:1-3 pa nga lang dmo na maunawaan. pinakilala na sayo ni jesus dmo pa matanggap nag dag dag ka pa!. ika nga ni Cristo bakit hindi nyo maunawa yan?! kayo'y sa ama nyong DIablo!
@zaraki8000 mali nmn po ata ung paniniwala nyu e.., pinakilala n nga po ni cristo ang tunay na diyos e... nung tumingin xa sa langit tapos sinabi nya na makilala ka na iisang tunay na diyos.., d nga nya cnabing na tayo na iisang tunay n diyos e... gaya ng cnabi mo na God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost = 1 God
if Jesus is a merely a super human person, he will never be able to save us. The best he could do is to teach us but he cannot save us from death and sins and bring us to heaven. kaya nga, sa unang tamang paniniwala sa isang Kristiyano ay tanggapin nya na si Cristo ay tunay na Diyos. and that as God's Son he has revealed to us the way to the Father. As Jesus had said i am the truth, the way and the life and those who immediately believe him come into contact with God.
@shaoran1026 its like this, YOU are a human being pero meron kang body, spirit and soul 3 yan na magkaiba, pero IISA sila bilang IKAW..."YOU" in english...
@mckill2007 ok. pero kung mawawala yung isa pwede pa ba sabihing ako pa rin yun? kulang na ko, hindi na buo. nung mamatay si cristo, hindi na buo ang Dios?
@shaoran1026 bakit hindi na buo ang DIyos? eh KATAWAN lang ni Cristo ang namatay?, pag namatay na ba ang isang tao ay patay na rin ang kanyang espiritu?...
pag sinabing KANYANG ESPIRITU, ibig sabihin sa KANYA pa rin yun OR SIYA pa pa rin yun.
pag natuyo ang pacific ocean, ibig bang sabihin ay wala na ang ocean or sea???
Holy Holy Holy! LORD GOD ALMIGHTY!!! GOD IN THREE PERSONS! BLESSED TRINITY!!!
How wonderful it is that we serve an infinite SAVIOR... Who himself is GOD Almighty who offered himself as a sacrifice for our sins! Accept JESUS now! and you WILL be saved!
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TALO ANG INK DITO ...TALAGANG TALO ANG INC SA MGA PORMAL NA DEBATE LABAN SA KATOLIKO O KAHIT NA SAANG RELIHIYON BASTA PATAS ANG DEBATE..SYEMPRE AAMININ BA NAMAN NG MGA BAYARANG MINISTRO YAN...KAYONG MGA INK ANG MGA TALAMAK NA MANDARAYA SA DEBATE KAWAWA NAMAN KAYO NATEPOK ANG TAGAPANGASIWA NYONG SI ERANO MANALO NA HINDI MAN LANG KAYO NAIPAGTANGGOL KAY ELISEO SORIANO..ANG ALAM LANG NI ERDIE MANALO AY MAGDALA NG BABAE SA PHILIPPINE PLAZA HOTEL MANANG MANA SA AMA..
andrewoisky 1 month ago
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If Jesus was merely a created super-being, then His death for man’s redemption is no better than an angel dying for us.If Christ is not deity itself,then any angel or sinless created being could have served the purpose.This would have virtually sustained Satan’s charge that God is selfish by demonstrating that He is only willing to sacrifice His creation and not Himself. “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ,& the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen” 2Cor 13:14
virgoboy84 1 month ago
1-Mga kapatid, hindi ko nais na hindi ninyo malaman na ang ating mga ninuno ay dumaan sa ilalim ng ulap, at silang lahat ay tumawid sa dagat, at lahat ay nabautismuhan kay Moises sa ulap at sa dagat; at lahat ay kumain ng isang pagkaing espiritual; at lahat ay uminom ng isang inuming espiritual.Sapagkat sila'y umiinom sa batong espiritual na sumunod sa kanila, at ang BATONG IYON AY SI CRISTO. 1Cor10:1-4
Fidel6720 2 months ago
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2-Isinasaad sa Isa 9:6ang kalagayan ni Cristo:Sapagkat sa atin ay ipinanganak ang isang bata, sa atin ay ibinigay ang isang anak na lalaki; at ang pamamahala ay maaatang sa kanyang balikat; at ang kanyang pangalan at tatawaging "Kamanghamanghang Tagapayo, Makapangyarihanng DIYOS, Walang hanggang AMA, Prinsipe ng kapayapaan."
Ano ang pagkahayag kay Cristo?Maliwanag na Siya ay DIYOS at AMA.
Bakit Siya ay nagkatawang tao?Sino si Cristo noon at ngayon ayon sa talatang ito ng Banal na Kasulatan?
Fidel6720 2 months ago
1-3 There is only one God but He is not limited. Exodus 13:21 says, "And the Lord went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night." And Jesus said, I am the light of the world: he that followed me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life." John 8:12 ( The parallelism here is clear....)
Fidel6720 5 months ago
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2-3 Siya ay naging ulap o apuy (ilaw) na hindi naalis ang kanyang pagkaDiyos. Si Cristo ay naging tao, ang anyo ng Diyos. Bakit hindi? He claims that He is the light. The Lord God became a pillar of fire (to give light) = the Lord Jesus became a man (to give light). Ang Diyos ba ay pwedeng maging ulap o apoy ngunit hindi Siya pwedeng maging tao?
Fidel6720 5 months ago
3-3"..Ama sana makilala ka nila .." papano ito kung wala ang Diyos na si Cristo na naging tao pansamantala? Ang pagkadiyos (katangiang angkin) ni Cristo ay kailangang makilala ng tao upang makilala rin nila ang Diyos Ama. Ang pagiging tao ni Cristo ay pansamantala lamang upang maligtas ang tao. Kung nanatili Siyang Diyos lamang kelan man wala tayong kaligtasan. Iniluwal siya ni Maria upang patunay na Siyay tao na magsakripisyo para tayoy maligtas. Itoy pansamantala lamang pra sa dakilang misyon.
Fidel6720 5 months ago
kawawa naman
mysteve1984 5 months ago
BOBO BOBO BOBO KA TALAGA!!!!!! RICHARD BOBO SON!!!
MrAhhzztig 6 months ago
HINDI MO NAMAN NILILINAW EH!!! LALO MO PINALALABO KAHIT ALAM MONG MALI PANTAS NA MANGMANG!!!
MrAhhzztig 7 months ago
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You know there in Genesis, it tells us God said, “Let Us make man in Our Image.” And later when man sinned, God said, “man has become like Us [plural].” So you find all the way from Genesis to Revelation the teaching of God being a Triune God. The Angels say, “Holy, Holy, Holy” for each member of the Godhead there in Isaiah chapter 6
rhiol 8 months ago
You know there in Genesis, it tells us God said, “Let Us make man in Our Image.” And later when man sinned, God said, “man has become like Us [plural].” So you find all the way from Genesis to Revelation the teaching of God being a Triune God. The Angels say, “Holy, Holy, Holy” for each member of the Godhead there in Isaiah chapter 6.
rhiol 8 months ago
Jesus said a man leaves his father and mother, cleaves unto his wife, they become one flesh. Well they’re two in reality. We know they’re two separate, distinct persons. They’re now one unit of a family. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are united in their purpose of creation, of redemption, and saving man.
rhiol 8 months ago
So you’ve got three distinct Persons that are making up God.First John 5:7 says, ‘…for there are Three that bear record in Heaven [there’s three, very simple]. The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.’ Now some people get confused and they say, ‘ “these three are one? How can They be three in one?” ’ All you’ve got to do is remember that in the HEBREW MIND, ONE meant UNITY.
rhiol 8 months ago
So there you have another example of those three Entities that the Bible speaks of. The three Persons of the Godhead – you know when Jesus was baptized is a good example where you can see they’re three separate Entities. Christ, God the son, comes out of the water at His baptism. The Voice of God the Father says, “This is My Beloved Son….” Incidentally, this is Matthew chapter 3. Then the Holy Spirit descends in the Form of a Dove.
rhiol 8 months ago
the doctrine of the Godhead, where Jesus said baptize in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, you can find three distinct Individuals outlined in the Bible.And there are so many references to it: not only Matthew 28:19 but if you go to 2nd Corinthians 13, verses 13 and 14, he says, in his conclusion he says, ‘All of the saints salute you. [Notice] The Grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, [that would be the Father] and the communion of the Holy Ghost be with you all.’
rhiol 8 months ago
bro saan ba mababasa na ang tunay na Diyos ay may tatlong persona? anong talata? hintayin ko ha? :)
theswordofgod777 8 months ago
palusot daw o.....hahahahahaha...nkinig kb sa paliwanag? hahahahahahaha
megz90293 9 months ago
wala nman syang nasagot puro palusot..
jetmicbev2006 10 months ago
ito po basahin nyo po na bawal gumawa ng larawang inanyuan or images, ito po ang sitas sana maliwanagan na po kayo sa sitas na ito.....................DEUTERONOMIO 5:7-9...gudluck po sa inyo ^^<
handguy17 1 year ago
@virgoboy84 Yeah? No evidences for Christ's being equal to God? I and the Father are one. (John 10:30). Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: (Philippians 2:5). Its in the bible. Its just that you don't want to accept it.
rapturedpassage 1 year ago
@shaoran1026 Here I am again. For additional information about the trinity, please go to amazingfactsdotcom and search for "The trinity: is it biblical"? Or you can search in google &go to the same website This site is very informative and educational. You can also read "The search for the True Church". Please read it first then let me know what you think. I'm open for comments. You will find out also if Christ really is God. Are there evidences on that? Please read the article first. Thank you.
virgoboy84 1 year ago
Here I am again. For additional information about the trinity, please go to amazingfactsdotcom and search for The trinity: is it biblical? This site is very informative and educational. Please read it first then let me know what you think. I'm open for comments. You will find out also if Christ is God? Are there evidences on that? Please read the article first. Thank you
virgoboy84 1 year ago
Ang mali sa paniniwala ng mga Sabadista eh katulad na katulad ng Father ang Son. Mas great (dakila) ang Father at si Jesus ang nagsabi niyan. My father is greater than I. tama ang nabasa ng INCM na may hindi alam ang Anak na alam ng Ama. Kapag sinabi ng Panginoong Jesus, paniwalaan natin. Yon ang faith. Kapag tintuulan natin si Christ, anti-Christ tayo.
rapturedpassage 1 year ago
@rapturedpassage An Amazing Fact: Science tells us that light is constituted of three primary rays or groups of wavelengths.Clearly distinct from each other, none of them without the others could be light. Each ray has its own separate function. The 1st originates, the 2nd illuminates, &the 3rd consummates.The 1st ray, often called invisible light, is neither seen nor felt. The 2nd is both seen and felt. The 3rd is not seen but is felt as heat. First paragraph of the Article.1 John 5:7.
virgoboy84 1 year ago
@rapturedpassage Here I am again. For additional information about the trinity, please go to amazingfactsdotcom and search for "The trinity: is it biblical"? Or you can search in google &go to the same website This site is very informative and educational. You can also read "The search for the True Church". Please read it first then let me know what you think. I'm open for comments. You will find out also if Christ really is God. Are there evidences on that? Please read the article first.
virgoboy84 1 year ago
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rapturedpassage 1 year ago
nako larawan na naman ang pinag uusapan ng mga demonyong ito..... manuod kayo nga debate na ito kahit na ehh walang masyadong alam si thomson sa logic... takot ang manalonians sa logic..
MrCatholicapologist 1 year ago
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@MrCatholicapologist You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.You shall not bow down to them or worship them; Deuteronomy 5 ...GUMAWA NGA LANG NG REBULTO BAWAL NA YUNG YUKUDAN MO PA KAYA?MALABO BA YAN?
judaismforpilipino 1 year ago
@rainepopov
lumuluhod kami as a sign of our deepest humility and respect, naniniwala kasi kami sa presensya kung sino talaga ang nasa rebulto. example, rebulto ni Jesus. alam ng puso ko, hindi ang rebulto ang sinasamba ko kundi si Jesus. hindi ibig sabihin lumuluhod, sinasamba na. dependi sa pag gamit yan. example pag luhod sa kaaway natin para humingi ng kapatawaran sa nagawa natin sa kanila.
zaraki8000 1 year ago
@zaraki8000 BAWAL LUMUHOD KAHIT SA KAAWAY MO KAPATID KAHIT KANINO MALIBAN SA DIYOS ..BASAHIN MO ANG DAHIL KUNG BAKIT PINAPATAY NI HAMAN ANG MHA HUDYO SA IRAN (PERSIA).NOONG PANAHON NI ESTHER >>>
judaismforpilipino 1 year ago
@zaraki8000 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.You shall not bow down to them or worship them; Deuteronomy 5 ...GUMAWA NGA LANG NG REBULTO BAWAL NA YUNG YUKUDAN MO PA KAYA?MALABO BA YAN?
judaismforpilipino 1 year ago
@rainepopov
pikon ako sa mga taong feeling mga correct!! kasi, nakikita ko minsan sa palabas nyo sa tv palagi nyo tinitirahan nyo ang Catholic, nag mamarunong kasi kaayo mga iglesia ni manalo. marami ng persecution at paninira ang dumaan sa Church simula pa nong naitatag ito, hangang sa ngayon nandito pa.
zaraki8000 1 year ago
@rainepopov
at sabihin mo sa ministro mo at eh sak2x jan sa baga mo na kayo ang nag iimbento ng sariling bagong doktrina sa iglesia nyo!! get lost IGLESIA NI MANALO
zaraki8000 1 year ago
@tenor54321
kulang talaga kayo sa explanation wag kayo mag husga agad. lahat ng binibentang nyo, matagal na yan sinagot ng Simbahan. hindi kami sumasamba ng rebulto o mga imahen. kung meron man gumagawa nyan tanga sya. Ave maria!!
zaraki8000 1 year ago
@zaraki8000 So idolatry is not just venerating a statue, carving or painting. Idolatry occurs when we begin to value anything more than we value God. If we spend more time thinking about our hero than God, that's idolatry. If our every thought is about the latest gadget or our personal appearance, that's idolatry. If the first priority in our lives is our family, even that's idolatry. Everything else must come after.
virgoboy84 1 year ago
@shaoran1026
outside of Holy Catholic Church, there are 39,000 different churches.. at iba iba ang mga founder, at gumawa ng bagong doktrina. all of them are claim na sila ang totoong simbahan ni Jesus...at mali silang lahat, kasali na ang simbahan mo jan. iisa lang talaga ang totoo, our Holy Mother Church..the bride of Christ... itong sinasabi ko, hindi ito paninira. this is the TRUTH!! open your heart... See Ephesians 4:4-5
zaraki8000 1 year ago
@shaoran1026
God is not divided, God revealed only one religion. one, holy, apostolic, Catholic Church!! St Ignatius of Antioch, isang bishop at meron syang letter tumutukoy sa Simbahan ni Cristo, tinawag nya itong ''Catholic'' meaning ''Universal'' Church of Christ. at nag ordained sa kanya ay si Peter. sabi ni Jesus, he who is not with me, is against me...
zaraki8000 1 year ago
kaya nga tayo natubos sa ating mga kasalanan dahil si Jesus ay Diyos. kung hindi Diyos si Jesus, kung siya ay isang propeta lang or isang karaniwang sugo..kung ganun matagal natayo nailigtas dahil marami ng propeta ipinadala si God the Father dito sa lupa bago pa man dumating si Jesus. this in the end would make sense.
zaraki8000 1 year ago
hMm..,, gs2 mo magpaakay ka nalang po sa kaibigan mo n INC kung meron man ng malaman mo ang doktrina kung sino tlga si cristo!!
mhengskie22 1 year ago
@mhengskie22
Christ is a true living God!!
Et dixit mihi : Factum est : ego sum alpha et omega, initium et finis. Ego sitienti dabo de fonte aquæ vitæ, gratis. Qui vicerit, possidebit hæc : et ero illi Deus, et ille erit mihi filius. Amen
zaraki8000 1 year ago
ang tagal nang pinag-aaralan ng mga SDA na to ang INC, imposibleng hindi nila alam na ang tanging talata lang na gingamit ng INC sa Lamsa translation ay ang gawa 20:28. LOL
Mrsimplyrommel 1 year ago
Against those who refuse to believe until they understand: "For I do not seek to understand that I may believe, but I believe that I may understand. For this I also believe, that unless I believe, I should not understand. -St. Anselm
zaraki8000 1 year ago
ang paginoon ay superior!!!!
tulad ng ng tratrabaho ka panginoon mo ang amo mo! e kasi superior mo siya!!!!
iba ang Tunay na Diyos!!!
angelitoalvez 1 year ago
@angelitoalvez
HOLY TRINITY in a biblical basis..
bro paki tingnan na lang sa bible kung meron ka...
Genesis 1:26, Genesis 3:22, Isaiah 6:8, 1 John 5:7-8, John 15:26, John 20:22
Mt 28:19, 1 Peter 1:2, 1 Corinthian 12:4-7 etc...
zaraki8000 1 year ago
@angelitoalvez
Sa lumang tipan, ipinapakilala ng Diyos ang kanyang sarili hindi bilang iisang persona, kundi mga ''persona.'' sa hebreo ang salitang ginagamit para sa Diyos ay hindi ''El'' na pangalang pang isa, kundi pangalan na pang maramihan na ''ELOHIM'' na hindi kailanman pwedeng maisalin bilang diyos na isang persona tulad na ating madalas gawin.
zaraki8000 1 year ago
Mag basa na lang kayo ng Catechism sa aming Simbahan, mga Counsils etc regarding to our faith. Isa itong mahabang usapan, hindi ko kayang ipaliwanag lahat dito. ito lang masasabi ko, sa simula iisa ating paniniwala, kung hindi lang dumating yang sinasabi nyong mga propeta o mga sugo ng Diyos. hindi sana tau nagkaka ganito. 2 Peter 2:1-3
zaraki8000 1 year ago
kahit english to tagalog ay hindi pwedeng WORD FOR WORD lahat kundi THOUGHT FOR THOUGHT, example...
What is Your Name, the correct translation is "Anong pangalan mo", pero kung word for word ay...
What = Ano
Is = Ay
Your = Iyo
Name = Pangalan
diba weird???
mckill2007 1 year ago
@mckill2007 - may punto ka jan at sa tingin ko magaling kang pilosopo. pero ano pa mang pamimilosopong gawin mo hindi mo pa ring kayang tutulan ang katotohanan na ang Ama ang tunay na Diyos at hindi ang Cristo. kahit anong bali-balikong gawin ninyo lalabas pa rin ang katotohanan. so kung ikaw ay nagsasalita para lang sa kapurihan mo para sabihin ng tao na magaling ka... wag ka sa mga INC mag ganyan kasi halata na namin iyon at naaawa lang kami sa iyo.
Mrsimplyrommel 1 year ago
@Mrsimplyrommel ang John 17:1-3 ay hindi lang NAG-IISANG talata ng bibliya, may mga talata din sa BIble na nagpapatunay na Diyos si Cristo...
sige sukatin ko ang understanding ng INC mo, sino ang isang Diyos at isang Panginoon???
mckill2007 1 year ago
@mckill2007 - nako pow! mamimilospo ka na naman. eh kailangan ko pa bang sagutin sa iyo yan eh mukhang idol na idol mo ang INC. alam mo na ang nagiisang tunay na Diyos sa amin ay ang Ama na siyang gumawa sa Cristo na panginoon at ipinag-utos na sambahin.
Mrsimplyrommel 1 year ago
@Mrsimplyrommel sagutin mo nalang ang tanong kung alam mo, sino ang isang Diyos at isang Panginoon???
mckill2007 1 year ago
ang panginoon ay lord. ang diyos ay god. ayusin mo muna ung pagkakaintindi mo sa dalawang yun bago tayo mag-usap. magkaiba yon.
shaoran1026 1 year ago
@shaoran1026 tagalog at english lang ang ginawa mo eh, ano bang gusto mong itumbok nyan???
mckill2007 1 year ago
@mckill2007 tinanong mo kung sino ang Diyos at "ISANG" Panginoon. Hindi porket panginoon ay diyos na. Maraming tao ang tinawag na panginoon.
shaoran1026 1 year ago
@shaoran1026 ma walang galang na, pero ako po ang nagtanong nyan, tinanong ko pa nga na ANG AMA BA AY PANGINOON???...
kasi ang reason ninyo sa 1 Cor 8:6 ay IISANG DIYOS, natural ang AMA LANG, pero ang reason ko naman ay IISANG PANGINOON, narural si Cristo...
so PANGINOON BA ANG AMA, kung IISA LANG ANG PANGINOON na siyang si Cristo???, kung OO ang sagot ay nakuuu malaking BIAS yan sa inyong duktrina!
mckill2007 1 year ago
@mckill2007
anong religion mo bro?
SDA or INC?
me niether of the two.
zaraki8000 1 year ago
@zaraki8000 depends on how you define "religion", if an "organization", then NONE but if "faith", then the gospel...
mckill2007 1 year ago
@mckill2007 Di mo ata naintindihan. Hindi lang iisa ang panginoon. Yan muna ang tandaan mo. Wag mo ipagpilitan na iisa lang ang panginoon dahil maraming tao na tinawag na panginoon.
Ang amo mo sa trabaho ay pwede mo rin tawagin panginoon dahil nakakataas siya sa yo.
Ang Landlord kung tittingnan mabuti ay panginoon ng lupa, panginoon siya ng mga taong nangungupahan dahil nakakataas siya sa kanila.
Wag mo ipagpilitan yung tanong mo dahil mali ang intindi mo sa panginoon.
shaoran1026 1 year ago
@shaoran1026 wala akong pinatutunayang IISA LANG ANG PANGINOON, sinulat ko lang yan dahil pilit kayo ng pilit sa isang talata na ONLY GOD ngayon may mababasa na ONLY LORD ayaw nyong tanggapin???
kung INC ka, kontra ka sa bro mong isa dahil inamin nyan na IISA LANG ANG PANGINOON based on 1 Cor 8:6...
mckill2007 1 year ago
@mckill2007 talino!
sa tingin ko dyan ka lang magaling..
pero pag unawa ng bilya "WALEY KA"
juan 17:1-3 pa nga lang dmo na maunawaan. pinakilala na sayo ni jesus dmo pa matanggap nag dag dag ka pa!. ika nga ni Cristo bakit hindi nyo maunawa yan?! kayo'y sa ama nyong DIablo!
davidmagen16 1 year ago
@davidmagen16 abah, tanggap na tanggap ko na ang AMA AY IISANG DIYOS LAMANG NA TUNAY "AT" SI CRISTO NA KANYANG PINADALA...
at siguro napakalapastangan ng tao na magsasabi sa DIyos na tunay para I GLORIFY pa ang taong yun ano??? (John 17:5)...nagtatanong lang po...
mckill2007 1 year ago
to those cannot accept or understand what is HOLY TRINITY.
i2 bibigyan ko kayo ng example nasa ibaba.
one father, one mother, one son = 1 family
same with God
God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost = 1 God
zaraki8000 1 year ago
@zaraki8000 mali nmn po ata ung paniniwala nyu e.., pinakilala n nga po ni cristo ang tunay na diyos e... nung tumingin xa sa langit tapos sinabi nya na makilala ka na iisang tunay na diyos.., d nga nya cnabing na tayo na iisang tunay n diyos e... gaya ng cnabi mo na God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost = 1 God
gunzmettal 1 year ago
@gunzmettal
if Jesus is a merely a super human person, he will never be able to save us. The best he could do is to teach us but he cannot save us from death and sins and bring us to heaven. kaya nga, sa unang tamang paniniwala sa isang Kristiyano ay tanggapin nya na si Cristo ay tunay na Diyos. and that as God's Son he has revealed to us the way to the Father. As Jesus had said i am the truth, the way and the life and those who immediately believe him come into contact with God.
zaraki8000 1 year ago
@zaraki8000 Kaya nga siya namatay para bayaran yung kasalanan ng mga tao.
shaoran1026 1 year ago
hindi eh. god the father, god the son, and god the holy spirit = 1 god? kahit ilang beses ko intindihin tatlong god yan eh.
shaoran1026 1 year ago
@shaoran1026 its like this, YOU are a human being pero meron kang body, spirit and soul 3 yan na magkaiba, pero IISA sila bilang IKAW..."YOU" in english...
mckill2007 1 year ago
@mckill2007 ok. pero kung mawawala yung isa pwede pa ba sabihing ako pa rin yun? kulang na ko, hindi na buo. nung mamatay si cristo, hindi na buo ang Dios?
shaoran1026 1 year ago
@shaoran1026 bakit hindi na buo ang DIyos? eh KATAWAN lang ni Cristo ang namatay?, pag namatay na ba ang isang tao ay patay na rin ang kanyang espiritu?...
pag sinabing KANYANG ESPIRITU, ibig sabihin sa KANYA pa rin yun OR SIYA pa pa rin yun.
pag natuyo ang pacific ocean, ibig bang sabihin ay wala na ang ocean or sea???
mckill2007 1 year ago
sagutin mo lang ung tanong na IISANG DIOS? ligaw kna eh wla ka ring pinagkaiba ky soriano...
MrRealmarlon 1 year ago
wag kanaang tumutol talo kana iisa lang ang tunay na dyos
MrRetzel 1 year ago
@MrRetzel
we believed there is only one God. no problem.
ang problema, ayaw nyo tanggapin si Christ ay God!
ang word na HOLY TRINITY ay hindi mo mababasa sa bible, pero
pinapakita sa bible na meron isang DIYOS pero tatlong persona.
hindi ibig sabihin iba ang Diyos ama, anak at espirito santo, they are only one.
kung sa coffee pa 3 in 1 pero capi pa rin xa. Ganun din sa bible kung
paano nya pina pa kilala ang Diyos.
zaraki8000 1 year ago
Holy Holy Holy! LORD GOD ALMIGHTY!!! GOD IN THREE PERSONS! BLESSED TRINITY!!!
How wonderful it is that we serve an infinite SAVIOR... Who himself is GOD Almighty who offered himself as a sacrifice for our sins! Accept JESUS now! and you WILL be saved!
9990adrian 1 year ago 2