Jesus was a Vegetarian: Biblical and Historical Proof is clip which may help you to consider that the bible was tampered with by those who loved their meat and addictions to the passover. It is on BeforeliesTruth channel. Just asking you to consider and stop please being so bold and pigheaded about it. I mean it seems elementary that killing of animals is terrible. If a god commands such foolish actions by man when it is not needed then perhaps he was a demon impostor and you are all fooled.
@JoannaBalaklejewska I've done the research first hand. That is how I am able to be so bold about the topic. Killing animals is not terrible if they are killed for a good purpose. Also, the killing of animals is only temporary. When the prophecies are fulfilled, no animal will kill another animals and no man will kill animals. Both will eat in accord with Genesis 1:29. Perhaps you should read the Bible instead of other's commentary on it.
@SimplyThinkDreams In your opinion, I should not waste my time anymore on you. Have fun with your wicked ways and foolishness. Read the bible many times thanks.
Why don't you set a good example then and tread the rightful road already by not eating animals? That would be glorious would it not?
@JoannaBalaklejewska First, you don't know anything about my personal eating habits and don't even know if I eat meat or not. Two, Yeshua ate meat as shown in this video. Three, Paul teaches that those who eat only vegetables are weak and that neither vegetable eaters or meat eaters should judge one another on their eating habits. If you want to be vegetarian that is fine with me; and, I would never try to persuade you to eat meat. Thus it isonly courteous for you to show that same respect.
@healthyone100 If Yeshua was perfect and without sin, he would have had to eat lamb or goat for the passover as commanded in Exodus 12. Now be gone oh wicked spirit.
@REALNRAW My testimony speaks for itself. I don't need anyone to verify my personal experience with studying and applying the Scriptures or the effects of such.
Although written by the hand of men, the Scriptures are surely inspired of God. If you were my secretary and I told you what to write, surely what your write would be my words.
@SimplyThinkDreams Vanity, boldness, namecalling, discrimination and self rightousness seems to be your way. So many books are inspired. The bible however is a great tool of control. You should travel more, see the world, various cultures, open your eyes, grow up. All the best to you, I hope you are forgivien fo e the blood spilt for your gluttony and infact you are the one who is making yourself look ignorant. Go ahead and disable comments. bye bye.
@JoannaBalaklejewska You know nothing of my experience in world travel, cultural knowledge, etc. In fact, I studied anthropology/sociology and have studied abroad. Thus, I am familiar with many different spiritual belief systems from all around the world. At one point I even wanted to become a shaman. This video isn't about how I look; rather, it proves through Scripture that Yeshua was not vegetarian.
@SimplyThinkDreams and scripture could have and was likely altered to suit the lovers of fllesh. Killing an animal is never a good thing to do and never for a good purpose. It is obvious. The animal wants to live and you do not have the right.
@JoannaBalaklejewska You said, "and scripture could have and was likely altered to suit the lovers of flesh," yet, you provide no evidence for any such claim. You don't even sound too sure of it yourself. If you want to give any merit to such claims you must provide evidence, at the minimum two or three solid witnesses (evidences). In doing the research, I haven't found any evidence to support such claims. Following your logic: all animals who kill any other animal are bad animals.
@JoannaBalaklejewska Yes, wicked spirits come to my page and sow lies in order to confuse as many as possible. Some of those people have even gone as far as telling me to kill myself multiple times. Of course I want such wicked spirits gone from my page. I believe in free speech and do my best not to restrict any comments as you can see. However, in extreme cases I must remove certain comments due to profanity, threats, spamming, and harassment.
@REALNRAW All of Egypt and the Israelites witnessed the slaughter of the first born of all men and animals who did not observe the commandments of the passover. Later after leaving Egypt, all of Israel saw YHWH speak at Mt. Sinai (Exodus 19 and 20). It would be pretty hard for Moses to write these things down and convince the Israelites this really happened if they did not see if for themselves.
like hell HE DID AND THATS WHERE YOUR GOING IF YOU KEEP EATING MEAT genesis 1:29 THATS FOR ALL TIME so you BETTER REPENT no meat eaters go to heaven none
@healthyone100 Such a doctrine is contrary to the teachings of Scripture and is a teaching of devils (1 Timothy 4:1-3). Yeshua certainly ate the passover lamb every year. He also ate fish. Now be gone oh wicked spirit.
@JoannaBalaklejewska Only facts are presented in this video. There is no opinion. The facts are as follows: 1) Exodus 12 commands observance of the passover; 2) Passover involves eating goat or lamb in a specific way; (3 Yeshua observed all of God's commands perfectly and was without sin. Those facts show God's commands required the eating of meat on passover; therefore, Yeshua must have eaten meat. This is what the Scriptures say! Nothing at all is opinion.
@JustSomePerson888 How do you even know what Yeshua was like except from the Scriptures? Many people who are veggie have health problems. Eating meat is not a mandate today because the Passover cannot be killed according to the commandments. Just because Yeshua ate meat doesn't mean you or anyone else has to eat meat today. You want to be veggie go ahead. I actually prefer eating vegetables and fruits myself. I even grow my own organic food and preserve it.
@SimplyThinkDreams - they don't have health problems from being veggie - again you lie. there's loads of videos at this site being honest about jesus, that he wasn't a meat eater.
even when meat is ok, you can't eat it and be on a spiritual path. even if you do some spiritual works and usually eat meat, you have to chuck it for days before and after or there's no point. you need to fast and be raw vegan etc or you may as well not bother cause you'll see nothing.
@JustSomePerson888 There are many vegetarians who don't know how to eat a properly balanced veggie diet. They eat too many of one thing and not enough of another leading to malnutrition in certain areas. Eating raw vegan doesn't by itself make you healthy unless you are eating the proper balance of fruits, veggies, and nuts. Do you mean physically see things? You don't have to have the gift of visions to be on a spiritual path. Anyways, be gone now; I don't appreciate being told to kill myself
@JustSomePerson888 I don't think you have a proper understanding of who Yeshua was. Yeshua was YHWH manifest in the flesh. He was one with YHWH (John 11:30,38, 14:6,11).
No need for name calling and foul language. "But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man..." (Matthew 15:18-20).
@SimplyThinkDreams - really, and when was the last JVH or any alternate spellings of it explained you in plain language why they believed sending part of themselves to be tortured and killed 2000 years ago is a plan as to resolving the problem of some types of people not living right on this planet?
logic = 0 there.
you have serious cognitive impairments. don't try to argue with people who thought through ages ago all that stuff you are stuck at. the bible isn't an instruction manual.
@JustSomePerson888 You have some serious problems with writing in proper English so that anyone can actually understand what the heck you are even talking about? Be gone oh wicked spirit.
@JustSomePerson888 I don't think you have a proper understanding of who Yeshua was. Yeshua was YHWH manifest in the flesh. He was one with YHWH (John 11:30,38, 14:6,11).
No need for name calling and foul language. "But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man..." (Matthew 15:18-20).
eating sheep makes you have sheep-behaviour, that is used by some 'annunaki' etc to make people follow a designated leader.
eating goats makes you have goat-behaviour, those types are slightly different and are the ones that become masons - the main difference is they lack a human-leader and are more autonomous.
@JustSomePerson888 Right. And what evidence do you have to support such claims? I suppose eating a banana makes you grow in the shape of a banana too right?
@SimplyThinkDreams - the evidence is self-evident. you are what you eat, and telling people to eat specific animals is to make them resonate with that energy type.
eating a banana will give you charateristics of bunches of similar or same beings, who are plant-like. your mind is mush, to think it'd mean they'd be the shape of a fruit etc.
as to Jesus not breaking the law! so why did he toss them out the temple then, then they handed him to the Romans? derp.
@JustSomePerson888 You obviously don't understand the oral laws created by man vs. the written laws given to Moses by YHWH. Anyone telling another person to kill them self is obviously under the control of a wicked spirit. If you are what you eat then your need to change what you are eating that is causing you to tell another to go and kill themselves. Now be gone oh wicked spirit of anti christ.
@SimplyThinkDreams - no you're evil, you are using fake versions of the law (made up by blasphemer rabbi's) to defend eating meat. when god didn't say that was ok ever.
it doesn't get any worse than following the fake laws of fake mortals and pretending its gods laws.
@JustSomePerson888 The Rabbi's are the one who made up the oral law. The written law was given to Moses by YHWH. God told Noah after the flood that mankind could eat meat. It wasn't that way at the beginning of creation. When the Creation is restored to its original purpose, there will be no more eating of meat. Neither will animals eat meat. You have to have faith in YHWH to make the things he promised come to pass. You need Yeshua in your life really bad from what I can tell.
what you quote in the blurb doesn't say anything about eating meat or not.
it'd be very unlikely for anyone on a spiritual path to not be vegetarian or vegan. the only way it'd be ok to consume meat would be if it had been killed with attention to the fact the animal has a soul, and you'd need to be the right kind of shaman etc that can do such a thing - as the soul is usually returned to the herd where it'd reincarnate. the animals don't struggle or scream etc if it's done right.
@JustSomePerson888 Listen to the video and read Exodus chapter 12. The video shows how Yeshua must have eaten meat at the Passover in order to be sinless. The Passover observance commanded by YHWH required the eating of lamb or goat in a specific way. Exodus 12 gives the guidelines for its observance.
@SimplyThinkDreams - you are aware also, that Jesus didn't exactly agree with some of the types of people claiming to be spiritual authorities in his religion (ie the Judaism he was born into) back then?
@JustSomePerson888 I read the Bible pretty much daily. I am well aware Yeshua was against the way the Pharisees, Sadducee, Scribes, etc. kept the law and demanded that others do so as well. They added to the law with what is known as the oral law and made it a burden for the people to keep (Matthew 23:4). Yeshua never broke the law. In fact, he kept it perfectly as he was without sin (1 Peter 2:22, Hebrews 4:15). Sin by definition is transgression of the law (Romans 3:20).
Aw, does he not know how obvious it is that he's thumbing up his own comments? And that it means nothing if you're the one rating your own thoughts? *awkward*
11..saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats
14Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them
15And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood
19If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land
@menn0777 It's very convenient of you to leave out the context of these Scriptures. Isaiah 1:1 states, "The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalen in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah." If you go to II Kings 15 and read that chapter you might understand why Isaiah received this vision. Israel was in sin sacrificing in the high places and burning incense there (II Kings 15:4). Of course YHWH wasn't pleased with such actions!
@menn0777 I would appreciate it if you and your buddies stop trolling my video. I am just going to disable comment ratings on this video if you continue to do so. None of your comments have had any merit so far and I can't let ignorance be voted for in this forum!
@menn0777 According to your logic, if it is too hard to keep the commandments of Moses, then killing should be ok right? Read my replies to Guitarhero here on my video. I show how the Hebrew word for kill used in reference to humans is never used in reference to animals; rather, a totally different Hebrew word is used when talking about the killing of animals.
@SimplyThinkDreams Even though I try to be patient when pointing people to the truth I've given up on you.
Keep closing your eyes to the truth, keep looking for excuses to be able to keep eating animals, keep following the words of others over the words of Yahushua (don't even read them) and keep preaching without knowledge, what's the worse that could happen, ey?
If you turn out to be wrong you can always use as excuse that you didn't know.. o wait... I've taken away that excuse for you...
@menn0777 The manuscripts from which the Essene Gospel of Peace was allegedly translated have never been produced. How can you believe the document to be authentic when the person who translated it couldn't even produce the originals from which he copied them? There is no evidence that those manuscripts ever existed. Not a single piece. If you want to demonstrate that the document is authentic, you need some evidence to show it; yet, you have provided absolutely none.
@menn0777 Provide me one good reason why anyone should believe that the Essene Gospel of Peace is an authentic document. Show us one of the original manuscripts from which it was translated. Oh wait, there aren't any! I pray YHWH opens your eyes that you can see the truth that you have been following false teachings and that he gives you the strength to repent!
The translators of The Gospel Of The Holy Twelve where also liars according to you of course?
You are seriously supprised that the Vatican and the Royal Library of the Habsburgs refuse to release texts that would prove Roman Catholicism to be a fraud?
If you're a Christian I can't understand why you don't want to read as much of Yahushua and the apostles sayings as possible...
Read first, judge later..
2x now you dare to tell me to repent.. don't expect more explanations
@menn0777 The King James Bible clearly shows that Roman Catholicism is a fraud. Catholics worship idols, pray to saints, etc., etc. If you just read the Bible then you would know the Catholic religion is a huge perversion of the Christian faith. No need for any other documents. I have read the parts you directed me to. They are in contradiction to the Torah, proving them to be frauds. Also, the Essene Gospel of Peace has many other inconsistencies which are not found in the true Gospels.
actually i've heard that jesus opposed the pass over. And Yeshua entered The Temple of God and cast out all of those who sold and bought in The Temple and upset the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who sold doves. Matthew 21:12
@guitarhero666759 Yeshua did not oppose the passover. You are spouting pure hearsay without any Biblical backing. Yeshua tells us why he overturned the table in the Temple in Matthew 21:13, "And he said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called a house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves." It had nothing to do with eating meat. Again, you fail to understand the passage in its proper context, twisting it to fit your own desires.
@SimplyThinkDreams Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.. SELLING DOVES!! why do you think Jesus calls them thieves then? if it is criminal to sell off an animal, why is killing not criminal?
@guitarhero666759 A thief is someone who steals. Just because you are selling an animal does not make you a thief. The passage is referring to the men perverting the Temple's use for their own personal gain. Please read John 21:6-13. Clearly Yeshua was not against capturing animals for eating. In addition, he ate meat himself. How can you say he is against eating meat when the Bible clearly teaches otherwise?
@guitarhero666759 No, it is murder. You cannot steal someone's life. You can end a life but you can never possess it. Theft is taking another's property without their consent and with the intent to convert it to the taker's use as if was their own. No one can take the life of another person and use it as their own. It is totally impossible. Thus, taking someone's life cannot be theft.
@SimplyThinkDreams what is slavery? and in a way animal killing is theft. You're taking their life so you can use their body to satisfy your desire to eat flesh. But besides that, you admit taking the life of another against their will is murder, isn't taking an animals life murder too then? i'm pretty sure they don't want to be killed and eaten.
@guitarhero666759 Why don't you get yourself a comprehensive dictionary and look up the word for yourself instead of asking me? Just because someone kills an animal doesn't mean they are going to eat it. They could kill it in self defense. Killing a human isn't always murder either. If a man attacks me and I kill him, I highly doubt it is his will for me to kill him. In that case, I would not be a murderer; rather, I would have killed him in self defense.
@guitarhero666759 Many people have and still do. Would you kill a bear that attacks you or would you let it eat you? How about a lion? What if it attacked a family member. You asked the question, "Isn't taking an animals life murder then too?" The answer that question is no.
@SimplyThinkDreams of course i'm going to defend myself. but my point was that most of us aren't even in that situation, we're living in big cities, and all the animals we eat are herbivores, they're not going to eat us. i fail to get inside the head of someone who thinks it's okay to kill creatures for no good reason.
@guitarhero666759 Really, chickens are omnivores and they are one of the most popular meats. Of course they are only fed grain in factory farming. Our chickens on our farm are free range so they get to eat ticks and other insects, organic grains, and other fruits and veggies. We keep them for eggs. Anyways, I've lived in the countryside my whole life. Here we keep animals as a food source. Eating is a good reason to slaughter animals.
@SimplyThinkDreams oh yeah, what do chickens eat? lamb? steak? mince pies? Eating is a good reason to slaughter animals? fuck off it is, how bout someone kill you and see how you like it eh?
@guitarhero666759 I told you already, they eat insects. I wasn't saying that just because chickens eat insects it is ok to eat them. The two things are totally independent. I was just stating the fact that chickens, one of the most popular animals for food, are omnivores, not herbivores. It was in reply to your false statement that all the animals we eat are herbivores. Who is we anyways. Using the word "we" would suggest that you eat meat.
@guitarhero666759 Yes, I thought that is what you meant but you really should be more careful in your use of language. You should also be more careful when formulating your ideas. You will not convince me not to eat meat. When the time is right, the world will no longer eat meat. Neither will any animal eat meat any longer (Isaiah 11:6, 65:25). Where is your faith in this prophesy? Do you not trust YHWH to bring forth his truth as it is written?
@guitarhero666759 I gathered that you were influenced by the Vedas from checking your profile. They of course allow the eating of meat in certain situations. According to the Bible, man and animals eat flesh only because of the sinful state of the world. If you read Genesis 1:30, you will see that animals originally only ate the green herbs, no meat. This will one day be so again. Have faith in Yeshua and one day you will see all that is promised. May YHWH bless you and give you wisdom.
@SimplyThinkDreams in certain situations yes, like starvation. and yes let's hope so eh? Thank you for your blessings, may YHWH bless you and give you wisdom too. Hare Krishna :)
@SimplyThinkDreams i apologize but seriously!? is your tongue really that important? you're not stranded in the middle of nowhere, you're not starving and there's no reason you couldn't be growing vegetables and lentils. What is the need to kill for a living?
@guitarhero666759 We grow and eat mostly vegetables. Most of the animal products I eat are eggs and cheese. Anyways, growing enough veggies to support our food needs through the winter is not possible at this time. Even so, when you have a large store of grain, veggies, etc. you still have protect that store of food. Mice and other pests love to eat our sunflowers, corn, squash, etc. That being the case, we have to kill the mice in order to protect our food supply. You really have no clue
@SimplyThinkDreams it's easy to defend your desire to eat meat, but how can you be pure when your mouth is defiled with animal flesh? Jesus taught us to be compassionate and loving, what is compassionate and loving about killing creatures weaker than you? or would you rather have a privilege to kill and not be killed yourself? doesn't really flow with Jesus "do unto others" philosophy does it?
@guitarhero666759 Your foul language defiles your body more than eating meat. You fail to even grasp the teachings of Yeshua. He ate meat himself! Do unto others is in reference to people not animals. Again, you fail to grasp the teachings of Yeshua. Clearly, you have never read the whole Bible or studied it in any serious manner.
@guitarhero666759 Romans 14:1-4 "Him that is weak in the faith receive ye but not to doubtful disputations. For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand."
@guitarhero666759 Who are you to exalt yourself above me because you don't eat meat? I don't judge you because you choose to be a vegan. You cannot judge my conscience before God. To do so is very dangerous for you spiritually. If you don't want to eat me so be it. That is your choice. One day we will both stand before the Creator and he will judge us. Why don't you let him work these things out instead of taking it upon yourself to try and conform others to your own ways?
"thou shall not kill" is a very simple thing, to spill blood, whether human or animal, doesn't really flow with jesus do unto others philosophy. Those who love themselves more than God and animals choose to eat meat. Also why are there so many pictures of jesus holding a lamb instead of killing it huh? because you know that it's a ghastly sight, you know it's wrong. For making another creature suffer just to satisfy your tongue, you think a price won't have to be paid? God have mercy on you.
@guitarhero666759 You fail to understand the Hebrew word used in the command "thou shalt not kill." Use a concordance and look up the Hebrew word. Then compare to the word used to "kill" in regards to the sacrifices commanded by YHWH. You will most likely discover the difference in meaning. "Thou shalt not kill" is referring to humans, not animals.
@SimplyThinkDreams as far as i know it was originally thou shalt not kill, but it was changed to serve mans selfish desires to eat meat. In any case, your choice will show your love for God. If someone was going to kill you and eat you, you would protest, you would think it wrong. Similarly, how can you justify causing pain and taking the life of another being, weaker than you? it doesn't matter whether God said yes or no, what do you think would be better?
@guitarhero666759 Kill in Exodus 20:13 is translated from the Hebrew word "ratsach" which means: to murder, slay, kill. It is only used in reference to humans. You will not find the word in connection with animals. In Exodus 12:6 the word kill is translated from the Hebrew word "shachat" which means to: slaughter a beast for food or sacrifice. This word is generally used in connection with animals. God has justified taking the life of an animal for me.
@SimplyThinkDreams causing pain or not causing pain? You fail to understand the most basic lesson of the bible, compassion. By definition, compassion means to feel or show sympathy and concern for others. killing animals and eating them is the complete opposite, being cruel, causing pain and suffering. That is the quality of a demon not a saint. You have a moral responsibility. Are you going to be humble and do it, or are you just going to be a wuss and keep trying to justify your desires?
@guitarhero666759 I bet you haven't even read the whole Bible. It is quite clear you haven't studied it in any seriousness or scholarly manner; rather, you try to bend what little you know about it to fit your own world view. My moral responsibilities are given to me by the Creator. They are not created in my own mind. Where does the Bible teach that eating meat is a quality of a demon? Yeshua himself ate meat. End of story.
@SimplyThinkDreams how can you trust the bible when it has been changed so many times? so many verses re translated, why? what was wrong with "thou shalt not kill" you say it actually means murder. i'm hearing conflicting stories about that though. You claim i am bending the bible for my own view, but there's just as much chance you're doing the same. You're the one trying to defend the killing of animals. You make Jesus out to be without compassion.
@guitarhero666759 You have to understand that I am going back to the Masoretic text which has been kept by the Jews for a very long time. Certainly some of the meaning is lost is translation, which is why it is necessary to go back to the oldest, most accurate texts available. The Dead Sea scrolls indicate that the Masoretic text is highly accurate as it predates the Masoretic but varies only a tiny bit.
@guitarhero666759 Additionally, it wouldn't make any sense for God to tell Noah that he can eat meat in Genesis, and then tell Moses in Exodus that you cannot kill animals. It also makes no sense for God to command the sacrifices of animals after giving the command not to kill. You have to take the passage, "thou shalt not kill" in context. I eat meat but I don't just kill animals for no reason. One day when the Creation is purged of sin, mankind will eat his original diet in Genesis 1:29.
@SimplyThinkDreams consider the situation in Noahs time, the world was flooded, what choice did he have? does paying for killing not make you a killer as well? hitler didn't actually kill anyone himself, but he is still murderer isn't he?
@guitarhero666759 Most likely the doves sold in the Temple were alive. We don't even know if they were being sold for food. Many people buy and sell pets and don't eat them. I highly doubt that Hitler never once killed a man himself. Regardless, Hitler was a murderer because he commanded people to kill other people. God commanded Israel to sacrifice animals to atone for their sin. According to your logic, God would then be a murderer. Such a statement is would be blasphemy.
@guitarhero666759 I eat meat because it is often available for me to eat and it is allowed by the Creator. Most of the times I eat meat is with other people who prepare meat. Generally, when I buy food to prepare myself, I don't buy meat because good organic meat is too expensive and I don't like to support factory farming or eat animals fed GMO grains. When I prepare my own food, I generally eat the organic food that I grow and process myself.
@botiroti1 why did you refer to Alexander as "the greatest human general"? As far as I remember he commited patricide and he didn't really accomplish anything other than mindless conquest. And if conquest determines greatness Ghengis Khan Surpassed Alexander in Conquest and Greatness. Cruelty and powerful horribleness arent measures of greatness but are bad.
@scorpk8 The Gospel of the Holy Twelve is a fraud. It is not an authoritative source by any means. Clearly, the Torah commands the eating of lamb on the passover. Those who promote the Gospel of the Holy Twelve generally claim that Constantine altered the texts of the Bible. If you did the research, you would find the Old Testament in the KJV of the Bible was translated from the Masoretic text, which was kept by the Jews. Constantine never touched it; rather, he used the Septuagint.
@SimplyThinkDreams"if you did your research" is that your best line? top religious scholars have provided evidence that shows the bible to be a fraud. Yet I bet you would tell them to do their research. The simple fact that Jesus was born of an nazarene family background hence the name jesus of nazerath. which were all strict vegans I bet you have an arguement for that to don't ya. Jesus never existed and sorry burst your bubble but he's not coming back either. you muppet
@scorpk8 First, you claim to quote Yeshua and tell me he was born of a Nazarene family who were strict vegans. Then you go on to say that Yeshua never existed. You sound confused but seem to what to learn the truth. It doesn't matter what some alleged scholar says. Some scholars say there is evidence for the evolution of man, some say there isn't. How do we know which one is correct? The answer, we must do our own research while desiring with all our heart to now the truth.
@menn0777 I could care less what some forged document says. It completely contradicts scripture. The fact that freezing food is even mentioned should raise a red flag. Right around the time of the alleged translation of the Essene Gospel of Peace (1928) freezers and refrigerators had recently become available for in home use. Prior to that, the only time food would have been frozen was in the winter time. Anyways, there is no reason to believe the document is authentic at all.
@SimplyThinkDreams Why should it raise a red flag when you yourself provide the solution "Prior to that, the only time food would have been frozen was in the winter time."
& I couldn't care less what you choose to believe
@menn0777 You shouldn't care what I believe; rather, you should care what the Holy Scriptures say and you should care about the truth. A big red flag is that the sentence you quotes says a frozen food will freeze your body also. Frozen food does not freeze the body. The whole sentence makes no sense especially considering bread is the main food in the Bible and bread is cooked.
@menn0777 The Bible makes perfect sense to me and I have a great grasp of the English language. What doesn't make sense is why you would believe a text that all the evidence points to it being a fake. Never have I experienced my body freezing, cooking, or rotting and I eat cooked and frozen/refrigerated foods all the time. Common sense tells us rotten foods are bad to eat. Anyways, you can believe in a fake document if you like but it is foolish. Take care now. May YHWH show you the truth.
1. show me that (or even any) evidence pointing to it being fake
2. if you have 'a great grasp of English' how can you not understand that Yahushua simply says rotten, cooked and frozen food are not good for you and that you should eat fresh and raw (which is true fyi)
3. let's hypothesize:
a. I'm wrong
b. you're teaching falsehoods and are insulting Yahushua and YHWH by claiming he killed animals to satisfy a lust for flesh
@menn0777 The fact that the text doesn't line up with the Old Testament teachings is the best evidence that it is fake. The Scriptures must be harmonious. God commanded Israel to eat meat on the Passover (Exodus 12). Numbers 9 teaches that all men must keep the Passover. If they are unclean in the first month they must observe it the second month. Any man who does not keep the sabbath "...shall bear his sin" (Num. 9:13). Yeshua was without sin so he ate meat on the passover.
@menn0777 There is no evidence that eating frozen foods harms the body. Throughout the Old Testament cooked foods are eaten and not once does God suggest eating them is harmful to the body. Jacob and Esau ate lentil stew. All of Israel including Yeshua observed the Passover eating roasted lamb or goat. Yeshua helped Simon Peter and friends catch a multitude of fish. Then he ate roast fish with them and bread (John 21). Yeshua gave his disciples bread as a symbol of his covenant.
@menn0777 In your imagined scenario you state you are wrong which is a fact. If you were to actually state that I am teaching falsehoods about Yeshua eating meat, then you would be bearing false witness against me. I have only taught what the Scriptures clearly say. I don't understand why you don't go back and read them. Study the Passover. If you believe Yeshua was without sin then you must believe he ate meat on the Passover because God said that not doing so was sin (Numbers 9:13). Repent!
@menn0777 I don't claim to know it all but I do know what the Scriptures say in regards to eating meat and that Yeshua ate meat himself. If Yeshua ate meat, and commanded others not to, he would be a hypocrite. That is not the case. The entire Old Testament is the evidence that the document is false. You need to use a concordance and look up the Hebrew word in the command "thou shalt not kill" never once is the same word used in reference to animals.
@menn0777 1. God required blood sacrifice of animals. Thou shall not kill applied to murder of humans...please do some reading. It has nothing to do with animals. God killed animals to cover Adam and Eve. God required lambs blood on door posts for the passover and I don't believe they volunteered for this. God required the Hebrews to eat the lamb. Jesus was a Hebrew who fulfilled every requirement that He and God laid down...including the killing and eating of bulls, lambs, goats, doves etc.
@MickScarborough There is tons of evidence so apparently you haven't looked very hard. In fact, the whole New Testament is full of testimonies of his existence. Not only do those writers testify to his existence, so do Jews, non- Jews, and non-Christians testify of his existence in other non-Biblical sources. Try doing some diligent research on the topic.
@SimplyThinkDreams Sorry no. Every mention of jesus is based on the bible. There is not one single mention of him in the Roman documents. The bible does not hold up to scrutiny as a historical document and must be dismissed. If jesus was real and the events claimed for him were real then there would be documentation outside of religous textx.... and there isnt any at all. Jesus fails even the most basic of scrutiny.
@MickScarborough Like I said, before you obviously haven't done enough research. Writings and writers that mention Yeshua: Josephus, the Talmud, Cornelius Tacitus, Thallus, etc. Most all historians that have studied the Gospels agree that they are historically accurate testimonies. You can deny Yeshua if you want but you will perish with the rest of the wicked for doing so. Now, be gone oh wicked spirit of anti christ.
@SimplyThinkDreams I think what he means is "Sorry no...I would have to abandon my beliefs if the Bible is authentic, so I'm not going there." In the words of the author of "More Than a Carpenter": "After personally trying to shatter the historicity and validity of the Scriptures, I have come to the conclusion that they are historically trustworthy. If a person discards the Bible as unreliable in this sense, then he or she must discard almost all the literature of antiquity." -Josh McDowell
"There exists no document from the ancient world witnessed by so excellent a set of textual and historical testimonies, and offering so superb an array of historical data on which an intelligent decision may be made. An honest [person] cannot dismiss a source of this kind. Skepticism regarding the historical credentials of Christianity is based upon an irrational [i.e. antisupernatural] bias."-Dr. Clark H. Pinnock (excerpt from More Than a Carpenter).
@MickScarborough you are the one that fails at doing even the most basic research..
I am not going to spend my time searching for other references to Jesus for you because there are plenty, you can disbelieve if you want or you can put some effort into it.
OF COURSE!! DO YOU SPIKING PERFECT SPANISCH; CHINSSE AND VENEZUELAN; YOUT TIME IS OVER JETON.....YOU TRY ONLY TO SHOW YOUR GOOD SOUL AND YOUR bible MIND....
@jesussuperstar1 Yeshua is the Creator of All Things. If he has the ability to create all things, I don't think it would be too hard for him to speak any language he wants perfectly. Besides, your English isn't even close to being correct at all. Now be gone wicked liar or I will block you from my channel.
"sorry for you men, your mind have a bifg confusion, one thing is jesus ( myself) is vegan or frutivore, and another what have to do wiht the WRITERS OF BIBLE thing please.two, your fanatic vision of your own life dont letyou look exist the universe firsht of your things. and to end, you dont now nothign abaout the true of jesus. im the only one i now my history . the only thing you can now exactly is your own history, and maybe your mind"
@jesussuperstar1 If you were actually Yeshua, you wouldn't be calling yourself Jesus because Yeshua is his Hebrew name. Also, your English is terrible and if Yeshua was going to speak in English, he would do so in a way that you could actually understand what he is saying. Now be gone you wicked deceiver and liar.
@jesussuperstar1 I know the Yeshua was sinless and in order to be sinless he had to keep the passover, which required the eating of lamb. This is extremely clear in the Bible. See Numbers 9:13, "But the man that is unclean and is not in journey, and forbeareth to keep the passover, even the same soul shall be cut off from among his people: because he brought not the offering of YHWH in his appointed season, that man shall bear his sin." Clearly, not partaking in passover is sin.
@DarkHanZelo Believe me I read it many times and know that we were originally made to eat vegetables and fruits; however, things changed after the flood. The point of this video is merely to show that Yeshua could not have been a vegetarian and sinless at the same time. He surely ate meat on the Passover. If he did not he would have been a sinner according to the law. Yeshua surely followed the law to every jot and tittle, straying not therefrom.
@SimplyThinkDreams Mmh I have many doubt of that. Many translation from greek or hebrew it's wrong. Many times when in the original Scriptures says "food" it was translate "meat". There is many mistake in translation and since the begin of Church some people, like Saint Girolamo, Saint, Father and Founder of Church took about the wrong translation and how was a problem (he was the first translator from greek and hebrew to latin). So often we must judge with our hearth.
@DarkHanZelo Genesis 9:3 "Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat (food) for you; even as the green herb I have given you all things." I don't know how YHWH can get any more clear than that.
Exodus 12:3-11 "...they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers...and they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavended bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it...it is YHWH's passover.
@SimplyThinkDreams In this point (Genesis 9.3) you must continue to read. Bible (I'm translate from italian) says: "Only you don't eat the eat with life, with his blood ecc." So...animals have blood...and then? How you can kill an animal and eat without eat his blood?!?!? It's simply impossible. I know that many times Bible has some mistake that get people in confusion.
@DarkHanZelo Yes, the blood of a living being is its life. Many nations back then ritually drank blood. There are still many today who drink blood as well. If you look in Leviticus and read how the priests were to sacrifice and prepare the animals, you will find that they sometimes sprinkled blood in certain places, drained and poured the blood onto the ground. In my area many people hunt their own food. If they kill a deer, they dress the deer and let it hang to drain the blood.
@DarkHanZelo Additionally, if you look at the command in Exodus 12 on how to eat the passover it says, "And they shall take of the blood and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it...eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire, his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof" (Exodus 12:7-9). Number 9:12 says not to break any bone of the passover lamb. Clearly, he is talking about an animal here.
@SimplyThinkDreams For example in genesis 9.6 says "...dominate the earth" but for any translation from original Scriptures it's "preserve the earth" that is VERY different. And a child can understand wich is the right "version". And a question...wich is your creed (you say you're not catholic)?
@SimplyThinkDreams In this way you can see clearly that don't eat meat it's a virtuous and mercyfull act. In the pope's book that talk about the life of Jesus, he admit the connection between Jesus and essenes, that were vegetarian. However, many times to find the truth you must deeply search in your hearth, not only on the books :)) Hare Krishna
@DarkHanZelo Numbers 9:10-13 " yet he shall keep the passover of YHWH. The 14th day of the month at even shall they keep it, and eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs. They shall leave none of it unto the morning, not break any bone of it: according to all the ordinances of the passover they shall keep it. But the man that is clean and is not in a journey, and forbeareth to keep the passover, even the same soul shall be cut off from among his people...that mans shall bear his sin."
@SimplyThinkDreams Ok, I read from my italian Bible..He talk about Easter. And that you must follow SPECIFIC offer ritual to eat in a PARTICULAR DAY for PARTICULAR people. In vedic Scriptures too you can offer meat to God, BUT you must follow specific ritual to elevate your soul and the animal's soul. The offer, in vedics tradition, it's very important to remember that nothing it's your, all belong to God. In general after Jesus (Buddha teach the same) people must abstain from eating meat
@DarkHanZelo If you research "Easter" you will find that the tradition of Easter is in fact pagan and was brought into Christianity by Constantine. Eggs and rabbits are ancient pagan fertility symbols. Christmas is also pagan as well, along with the Christmas tree. I know it is more difficult to find the truth in Italia because it is dominated by the Catholic Church, which is the most corrupt religious organization on the planet. May YHWH bless you in your search for truth. Ciao mio amico.
@SimplyThinkDreams Ok, but before Jesus (and Costantine!) easter was the day that remember the liberation of Jewish from Egypt. So...in the Numbers 9.13 God says to hollow the easter feast with APPROPRIATE and SPECIFIC rituals for this SPECIFIC day. How can you say "Jesus wasn't vegetarian"? It's a generalization for me. The fact that I'm italian doesn't mean that I'm Catholic. I think with my mind and my thougth inspire from indian tradition. I can see the same things in all religion.
@DarkHanZelo No, Easter is a pagan tradition infused with Christianity by Constantine. You will never find the word Easter in the Masoretic text. It is called the passover or in Hebrew Pesach. Israel was commanded, "And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to YHWH throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever" (Exodus 12:14). I wasn't saying you are Catholic, I was saying you are in an area dominated by Catholicism.
@SimplyThinkDreams But in some religion there are things not clear. Study other "tradition" (better to say tradition and not "religion", that it's something for the crowd) help to understand some important details. In this way now I can apprecciate better the teaching of Jesus, for example. So I'm interested to discuss the point of "Jesus wasn't vegetarian" in serious manner, if you want.
There is some scriptures, like "Omelie Clementine" (in italian) where Saint Peter says that "eating meat it's like open the door to daemons in his self". So the "official" Scripture isn't complete to teach the Jesus message because in the Concil of Nicea the roman emperor and the church unificated the christians and roman empire with compromises...The Truth Hasn't compromises! This is politic, or religion, but not mystique. It's different.
@teachmedailyGod Yes, you are right. I tend to reply maybe when I shouldn't but it is always in hope of snapping someone into a mindset where they realize that their world view doesn't work when challenged that they might take the necessary steps to discover the truth for themselves. Thanks for the comment. May YHWH bless you as well! Shalom
This is not the place to teach you the coded text. You wish to derive understanding from a neutered English translation, that's fine.You said:"No where in Gds' word does it mention.." (i.e., the minimum requirement). According to a neutered English translation, you're correct; it also doesn't mention how to make fringes, the definition of work for Sabbath, how to slaughter (yet it says: "as I showed you"),etc. but they knew these laws,derived from the coded text;Jesus himself kept these laws.
@mrtruthforever All I asked for was a citation of where you claim the olive sized portion is in the law. If you are getting that from the Midrash or Talmud, those are the traditions and doctrines of men, not of YHWH. Yeshua rebuked the Pharisees and Sadducees for following such traditions. A perfect example is when the disciples plucked grain from the field and ate. According to the traditions of men, doing such was forbidden on the Shabbat. Yeshua clearly taught otherwise.
1st: The Passover sacrifice is the only time a Jew is commanded to eat meat. 2ndly, according to law, the minimum amount to be consumed per person is the volume of an olive. If meat eating was so common, the experience would be devoid of meaning. Btw, it was limited to only lamb or goats which were used as part of idolatry in ancient Egypt. Very specific purpose, exact time, minimum quantity requirement do not equate to a lifestyle of meat eating.
@mrtruthforever First off, Jews are from the tribe of Judah and the Passover was commanded to be observed by all of Israel. Second, no where in God's Word does it mention eating an olive sized portion; rather, the command was to eat all of the lamb before the next morning. The portions were one lamb per household and if the lamb was too big for the household, they could share with their neighbors (Exodus 12). Levites were also commanded to eat the meat of the sacrifices
@SimplyThinkDreams "You shall not leave any of it until morning; any of it that is left until morning you shall burn in the fire". That does not mean the command was to eat all of it. It meant that it could only be eaten up until a certain time. There'd be no need for the statement: "any of it that is left until morning you shall burn in the fire" if they had to stuff themselves with the entire sacrifice.
@mrtruthforever "And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire" (Exodus 12:10). The context clearly shows that they are to eat as much of it as possible and whatever is left after they ate what they could eat should be burnt. Obviously YHWH didn't want to force people to eat more than they could handle; however, to suggest the Israelites only ate olive sized portions is absurd.
@mrtruthforever Meat was very common for them to eat. Heck Israel was a Nation composed mostly of shepards. The meaning of eating the Passover is acted out through the other actions such as putting the blood on the door posts, eating it in haste with staff in hand and loins girded, with bitter herbs, and the fact that they ate only unleavened bread with the Passover lamb.
I never once mentioned about Yeshua having a lifestyle of eating meat; rather, I pointed out he wasn't vegetarian.
@gyrate4 I cannot even make sense of this comment. My point is you claim God does not exist and seem to support the idea of evolution. Evolution states that the ultimate goal of
Jesus was a Vegetarian: Biblical and Historical Proof is clip which may help you to consider that the bible was tampered with by those who loved their meat and addictions to the passover. It is on BeforeliesTruth channel. Just asking you to consider and stop please being so bold and pigheaded about it. I mean it seems elementary that killing of animals is terrible. If a god commands such foolish actions by man when it is not needed then perhaps he was a demon impostor and you are all fooled.
JoannaBalaklejewska 1 month ago
@JoannaBalaklejewska I've done the research first hand. That is how I am able to be so bold about the topic. Killing animals is not terrible if they are killed for a good purpose. Also, the killing of animals is only temporary. When the prophecies are fulfilled, no animal will kill another animals and no man will kill animals. Both will eat in accord with Genesis 1:29. Perhaps you should read the Bible instead of other's commentary on it.
SimplyThinkDreams 1 month ago
@SimplyThinkDreams In your opinion, I should not waste my time anymore on you. Have fun with your wicked ways and foolishness. Read the bible many times thanks.
Why don't you set a good example then and tread the rightful road already by not eating animals? That would be glorious would it not?
JoannaBalaklejewska 1 month ago
@JoannaBalaklejewska First, you don't know anything about my personal eating habits and don't even know if I eat meat or not. Two, Yeshua ate meat as shown in this video. Three, Paul teaches that those who eat only vegetables are weak and that neither vegetable eaters or meat eaters should judge one another on their eating habits. If you want to be vegetarian that is fine with me; and, I would never try to persuade you to eat meat. Thus it isonly courteous for you to show that same respect.
SimplyThinkDreams 1 month ago
EAT ON GLUTTON
healthyone100 2 months ago
just LOVE that meat ROT YOUR GUTS
healthyone100 2 months ago
the passover meal JESUS ate a piece of barley bread and a few HERBS thats how JESUS was a fat slob on the cross wake up and live right
healthyone100 2 months ago
@healthyone100 If Yeshua was perfect and without sin, he would have had to eat lamb or goat for the passover as commanded in Exodus 12. Now be gone oh wicked spirit.
SimplyThinkDreams 2 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams You are blinded by a book of holes written by the hand of men although deep down your a good bloke.
REALNRAW 2 months ago
@REALNRAW My testimony speaks for itself. I don't need anyone to verify my personal experience with studying and applying the Scriptures or the effects of such.
Although written by the hand of men, the Scriptures are surely inspired of God. If you were my secretary and I told you what to write, surely what your write would be my words.
SimplyThinkDreams 2 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams Vanity, boldness, namecalling, discrimination and self rightousness seems to be your way. So many books are inspired. The bible however is a great tool of control. You should travel more, see the world, various cultures, open your eyes, grow up. All the best to you, I hope you are forgivien fo e the blood spilt for your gluttony and infact you are the one who is making yourself look ignorant. Go ahead and disable comments. bye bye.
JoannaBalaklejewska 1 month ago
@JoannaBalaklejewska You know nothing of my experience in world travel, cultural knowledge, etc. In fact, I studied anthropology/sociology and have studied abroad. Thus, I am familiar with many different spiritual belief systems from all around the world. At one point I even wanted to become a shaman. This video isn't about how I look; rather, it proves through Scripture that Yeshua was not vegetarian.
SimplyThinkDreams 1 month ago
@SimplyThinkDreams and scripture could have and was likely altered to suit the lovers of fllesh. Killing an animal is never a good thing to do and never for a good purpose. It is obvious. The animal wants to live and you do not have the right.
JoannaBalaklejewska 1 month ago
@JoannaBalaklejewska You said, "and scripture could have and was likely altered to suit the lovers of flesh," yet, you provide no evidence for any such claim. You don't even sound too sure of it yourself. If you want to give any merit to such claims you must provide evidence, at the minimum two or three solid witnesses (evidences). In doing the research, I haven't found any evidence to support such claims. Following your logic: all animals who kill any other animal are bad animals.
SimplyThinkDreams 1 month ago
@SimplyThinkDreams "Be gone oh wicked spirit" Looks like your losing it now. You need to cleanse and detoxify your cells.
JoannaBalaklejewska 1 month ago
@JoannaBalaklejewska Yes, wicked spirits come to my page and sow lies in order to confuse as many as possible. Some of those people have even gone as far as telling me to kill myself multiple times. Of course I want such wicked spirits gone from my page. I believe in free speech and do my best not to restrict any comments as you can see. However, in extreme cases I must remove certain comments due to profanity, threats, spamming, and harassment.
SimplyThinkDreams 1 month ago
@healthyone100 Mixing protein and carbs is a big no no. Naughty Jesus!
REALNRAW 2 months ago
you use those scriptures to justify your LUST for MEAT GOD HATES MEATERS your gutless
healthyone100 2 months ago
@healthyone100 Then why did he command Israel to observe the Passover?
SimplyThinkDreams 2 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams He did not an old relglyous fool did and said god said so.
REALNRAW 2 months ago
@REALNRAW All of Egypt and the Israelites witnessed the slaughter of the first born of all men and animals who did not observe the commandments of the passover. Later after leaving Egypt, all of Israel saw YHWH speak at Mt. Sinai (Exodus 19 and 20). It would be pretty hard for Moses to write these things down and convince the Israelites this really happened if they did not see if for themselves.
SimplyThinkDreams 2 months ago
like hell HE DID AND THATS WHERE YOUR GOING IF YOU KEEP EATING MEAT genesis 1:29 THATS FOR ALL TIME so you BETTER REPENT no meat eaters go to heaven none
healthyone100 2 months ago
@healthyone100 Such a doctrine is contrary to the teachings of Scripture and is a teaching of devils (1 Timothy 4:1-3). Yeshua certainly ate the passover lamb every year. He also ate fish. Now be gone oh wicked spirit.
SimplyThinkDreams 2 months ago
you were ameat eater as a sinner now your a meat eater as a so-called christian YOU WERE BETTER OFF AS A SINNER MEAT EATER FOOL FOOL FOOL
healthyone100 2 months ago
@healthyone100 This video has nothing to do with me eating meat; rather, it demonstrates that Yeshua was not a vegetarian.
SimplyThinkDreams 2 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams it demonstrates your opinion and that is all!
JoannaBalaklejewska 1 month ago
@JoannaBalaklejewska Only facts are presented in this video. There is no opinion. The facts are as follows: 1) Exodus 12 commands observance of the passover; 2) Passover involves eating goat or lamb in a specific way; (3 Yeshua observed all of God's commands perfectly and was without sin. Those facts show God's commands required the eating of meat on passover; therefore, Yeshua must have eaten meat. This is what the Scriptures say! Nothing at all is opinion.
SimplyThinkDreams 1 month ago
@JustSomePerson888 How do you even know what Yeshua was like except from the Scriptures? Many people who are veggie have health problems. Eating meat is not a mandate today because the Passover cannot be killed according to the commandments. Just because Yeshua ate meat doesn't mean you or anyone else has to eat meat today. You want to be veggie go ahead. I actually prefer eating vegetables and fruits myself. I even grow my own organic food and preserve it.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams - they don't have health problems from being veggie - again you lie. there's loads of videos at this site being honest about jesus, that he wasn't a meat eater.
even when meat is ok, you can't eat it and be on a spiritual path. even if you do some spiritual works and usually eat meat, you have to chuck it for days before and after or there's no point. you need to fast and be raw vegan etc or you may as well not bother cause you'll see nothing.
kill yourself.
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
@JustSomePerson888 There are many vegetarians who don't know how to eat a properly balanced veggie diet. They eat too many of one thing and not enough of another leading to malnutrition in certain areas. Eating raw vegan doesn't by itself make you healthy unless you are eating the proper balance of fruits, veggies, and nuts. Do you mean physically see things? You don't have to have the gift of visions to be on a spiritual path. Anyways, be gone now; I don't appreciate being told to kill myself
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@JustSomePerson888 I don't think you have a proper understanding of who Yeshua was. Yeshua was YHWH manifest in the flesh. He was one with YHWH (John 11:30,38, 14:6,11).
No need for name calling and foul language. "But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man..." (Matthew 15:18-20).
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams - really, and when was the last JVH or any alternate spellings of it explained you in plain language why they believed sending part of themselves to be tortured and killed 2000 years ago is a plan as to resolving the problem of some types of people not living right on this planet?
logic = 0 there.
you have serious cognitive impairments. don't try to argue with people who thought through ages ago all that stuff you are stuck at. the bible isn't an instruction manual.
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
@JustSomePerson888 You have some serious problems with writing in proper English so that anyone can actually understand what the heck you are even talking about? Be gone oh wicked spirit.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@JustSomePerson888 I don't think you have a proper understanding of who Yeshua was. Yeshua was YHWH manifest in the flesh. He was one with YHWH (John 11:30,38, 14:6,11).
No need for name calling and foul language. "But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man..." (Matthew 15:18-20).
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
eating sheep makes you have sheep-behaviour, that is used by some 'annunaki' etc to make people follow a designated leader.
eating goats makes you have goat-behaviour, those types are slightly different and are the ones that become masons - the main difference is they lack a human-leader and are more autonomous.
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
@JustSomePerson888 Right. And what evidence do you have to support such claims? I suppose eating a banana makes you grow in the shape of a banana too right?
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams - the evidence is self-evident. you are what you eat, and telling people to eat specific animals is to make them resonate with that energy type.
eating a banana will give you charateristics of bunches of similar or same beings, who are plant-like. your mind is mush, to think it'd mean they'd be the shape of a fruit etc.
as to Jesus not breaking the law! so why did he toss them out the temple then, then they handed him to the Romans? derp.
just kill yourself, you're insane.
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
@JustSomePerson888 You obviously don't understand the oral laws created by man vs. the written laws given to Moses by YHWH. Anyone telling another person to kill them self is obviously under the control of a wicked spirit. If you are what you eat then your need to change what you are eating that is causing you to tell another to go and kill themselves. Now be gone oh wicked spirit of anti christ.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams - no you're evil, you are using fake versions of the law (made up by blasphemer rabbi's) to defend eating meat. when god didn't say that was ok ever.
it doesn't get any worse than following the fake laws of fake mortals and pretending its gods laws.
kill yourself.
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
@JustSomePerson888 The Rabbi's are the one who made up the oral law. The written law was given to Moses by YHWH. God told Noah after the flood that mankind could eat meat. It wasn't that way at the beginning of creation. When the Creation is restored to its original purpose, there will be no more eating of meat. Neither will animals eat meat. You have to have faith in YHWH to make the things he promised come to pass. You need Yeshua in your life really bad from what I can tell.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams No! Eating a banana makes you bunches of fun...and eating lamb makes ewe baaad...etc. ;)
I know I keep returning to your video, but the comments tickle me.
Jimvesterstallone 3 months ago
@Jimvesterstallone Nice ones :) I had to block that person because he kept using foul language yet claimed to be on a spiritual path.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
what you quote in the blurb doesn't say anything about eating meat or not.
it'd be very unlikely for anyone on a spiritual path to not be vegetarian or vegan. the only way it'd be ok to consume meat would be if it had been killed with attention to the fact the animal has a soul, and you'd need to be the right kind of shaman etc that can do such a thing - as the soul is usually returned to the herd where it'd reincarnate. the animals don't struggle or scream etc if it's done right.
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
@JustSomePerson888 Listen to the video and read Exodus chapter 12. The video shows how Yeshua must have eaten meat at the Passover in order to be sinless. The Passover observance commanded by YHWH required the eating of lamb or goat in a specific way. Exodus 12 gives the guidelines for its observance.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams - you are aware also, that Jesus didn't exactly agree with some of the types of people claiming to be spiritual authorities in his religion (ie the Judaism he was born into) back then?
JustSomePerson888 3 months ago
@JustSomePerson888 I read the Bible pretty much daily. I am well aware Yeshua was against the way the Pharisees, Sadducee, Scribes, etc. kept the law and demanded that others do so as well. They added to the law with what is known as the oral law and made it a burden for the people to keep (Matthew 23:4). Yeshua never broke the law. In fact, he kept it perfectly as he was without sin (1 Peter 2:22, Hebrews 4:15). Sin by definition is transgression of the law (Romans 3:20).
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
Aw, does he not know how obvious it is that he's thumbing up his own comments? And that it means nothing if you're the one rating your own thoughts? *awkward*
Jimvesterstallone 3 months ago
Isaiah 1
11..saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats
14Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them
15And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood
19If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land
menn0777 3 months ago 17
@menn0777 It's very convenient of you to leave out the context of these Scriptures. Isaiah 1:1 states, "The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalen in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah." If you go to II Kings 15 and read that chapter you might understand why Isaiah received this vision. Israel was in sin sacrificing in the high places and burning incense there (II Kings 15:4). Of course YHWH wasn't pleased with such actions!
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@menn0777 I would appreciate it if you and your buddies stop trolling my video. I am just going to disable comment ratings on this video if you continue to do so. None of your comments have had any merit so far and I can't let ignorance be voted for in this forum!
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@menn0777 According to your logic, if it is too hard to keep the commandments of Moses, then killing should be ok right? Read my replies to Guitarhero here on my video. I show how the Hebrew word for kill used in reference to humans is never used in reference to animals; rather, a totally different Hebrew word is used when talking about the killing of animals.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams Even though I try to be patient when pointing people to the truth I've given up on you.
Keep closing your eyes to the truth, keep looking for excuses to be able to keep eating animals, keep following the words of others over the words of Yahushua (don't even read them) and keep preaching without knowledge, what's the worse that could happen, ey?
If you turn out to be wrong you can always use as excuse that you didn't know.. o wait... I've taken away that excuse for you...
menn0777 3 months ago
@menn0777 The manuscripts from which the Essene Gospel of Peace was allegedly translated have never been produced. How can you believe the document to be authentic when the person who translated it couldn't even produce the originals from which he copied them? There is no evidence that those manuscripts ever existed. Not a single piece. If you want to demonstrate that the document is authentic, you need some evidence to show it; yet, you have provided absolutely none.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@menn0777 Provide me one good reason why anyone should believe that the Essene Gospel of Peace is an authentic document. Show us one of the original manuscripts from which it was translated. Oh wait, there aren't any! I pray YHWH opens your eyes that you can see the truth that you have been following false teachings and that he gives you the strength to repent!
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams
The translators of The Gospel Of The Holy Twelve where also liars according to you of course?
You are seriously supprised that the Vatican and the Royal Library of the Habsburgs refuse to release texts that would prove Roman Catholicism to be a fraud?
If you're a Christian I can't understand why you don't want to read as much of Yahushua and the apostles sayings as possible...
Read first, judge later..
2x now you dare to tell me to repent.. don't expect more explanations
menn0777 3 months ago
@menn0777 The King James Bible clearly shows that Roman Catholicism is a fraud. Catholics worship idols, pray to saints, etc., etc. If you just read the Bible then you would know the Catholic religion is a huge perversion of the Christian faith. No need for any other documents. I have read the parts you directed me to. They are in contradiction to the Torah, proving them to be frauds. Also, the Essene Gospel of Peace has many other inconsistencies which are not found in the true Gospels.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
actually i've heard that jesus opposed the pass over. And Yeshua entered The Temple of God and cast out all of those who sold and bought in The Temple and upset the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who sold doves. Matthew 21:12
guitarhero666759 4 months ago
@guitarhero666759 Yeshua did not oppose the passover. You are spouting pure hearsay without any Biblical backing. Yeshua tells us why he overturned the table in the Temple in Matthew 21:13, "And he said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called a house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves." It had nothing to do with eating meat. Again, you fail to understand the passage in its proper context, twisting it to fit your own desires.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves.. SELLING DOVES!! why do you think Jesus calls them thieves then? if it is criminal to sell off an animal, why is killing not criminal?
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 A thief is someone who steals. Just because you are selling an animal does not make you a thief. The passage is referring to the men perverting the Temple's use for their own personal gain. Please read John 21:6-13. Clearly Yeshua was not against capturing animals for eating. In addition, he ate meat himself. How can you say he is against eating meat when the Bible clearly teaches otherwise?
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams taking someones life against their will is another form of theft is it not?
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 No, it is murder. You cannot steal someone's life. You can end a life but you can never possess it. Theft is taking another's property without their consent and with the intent to convert it to the taker's use as if was their own. No one can take the life of another person and use it as their own. It is totally impossible. Thus, taking someone's life cannot be theft.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams what is slavery? and in a way animal killing is theft. You're taking their life so you can use their body to satisfy your desire to eat flesh. But besides that, you admit taking the life of another against their will is murder, isn't taking an animals life murder too then? i'm pretty sure they don't want to be killed and eaten.
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 Why don't you get yourself a comprehensive dictionary and look up the word for yourself instead of asking me? Just because someone kills an animal doesn't mean they are going to eat it. They could kill it in self defense. Killing a human isn't always murder either. If a man attacks me and I kill him, I highly doubt it is his will for me to kill him. In that case, I would not be a murderer; rather, I would have killed him in self defense.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams are you saying that we're killing animals in self defense now?
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 Many people have and still do. Would you kill a bear that attacks you or would you let it eat you? How about a lion? What if it attacked a family member. You asked the question, "Isn't taking an animals life murder then too?" The answer that question is no.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams of course i'm going to defend myself. but my point was that most of us aren't even in that situation, we're living in big cities, and all the animals we eat are herbivores, they're not going to eat us. i fail to get inside the head of someone who thinks it's okay to kill creatures for no good reason.
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 Really, chickens are omnivores and they are one of the most popular meats. Of course they are only fed grain in factory farming. Our chickens on our farm are free range so they get to eat ticks and other insects, organic grains, and other fruits and veggies. We keep them for eggs. Anyways, I've lived in the countryside my whole life. Here we keep animals as a food source. Eating is a good reason to slaughter animals.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams oh yeah, what do chickens eat? lamb? steak? mince pies? Eating is a good reason to slaughter animals? fuck off it is, how bout someone kill you and see how you like it eh?
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 I told you already, they eat insects. I wasn't saying that just because chickens eat insects it is ok to eat them. The two things are totally independent. I was just stating the fact that chickens, one of the most popular animals for food, are omnivores, not herbivores. It was in reply to your false statement that all the animals we eat are herbivores. Who is we anyways. Using the word "we" would suggest that you eat meat.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams "we" as in most of the human race. I don't eat meat.
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 Yes, I thought that is what you meant but you really should be more careful in your use of language. You should also be more careful when formulating your ideas. You will not convince me not to eat meat. When the time is right, the world will no longer eat meat. Neither will any animal eat meat any longer (Isaiah 11:6, 65:25). Where is your faith in this prophesy? Do you not trust YHWH to bring forth his truth as it is written?
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams i guess i just got carried away, by my own emotions. that's my great misfortune.
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams btw i'm not conforming my own ideas, these aren't my opinions per se, but the view of the Vedas from ancient India.
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 I gathered that you were influenced by the Vedas from checking your profile. They of course allow the eating of meat in certain situations. According to the Bible, man and animals eat flesh only because of the sinful state of the world. If you read Genesis 1:30, you will see that animals originally only ate the green herbs, no meat. This will one day be so again. Have faith in Yeshua and one day you will see all that is promised. May YHWH bless you and give you wisdom.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams in certain situations yes, like starvation. and yes let's hope so eh? Thank you for your blessings, may YHWH bless you and give you wisdom too. Hare Krishna :)
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams i apologize but seriously!? is your tongue really that important? you're not stranded in the middle of nowhere, you're not starving and there's no reason you couldn't be growing vegetables and lentils. What is the need to kill for a living?
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 We grow and eat mostly vegetables. Most of the animal products I eat are eggs and cheese. Anyways, growing enough veggies to support our food needs through the winter is not possible at this time. Even so, when you have a large store of grain, veggies, etc. you still have protect that store of food. Mice and other pests love to eat our sunflowers, corn, squash, etc. That being the case, we have to kill the mice in order to protect our food supply. You really have no clue
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams it's easy to defend your desire to eat meat, but how can you be pure when your mouth is defiled with animal flesh? Jesus taught us to be compassionate and loving, what is compassionate and loving about killing creatures weaker than you? or would you rather have a privilege to kill and not be killed yourself? doesn't really flow with Jesus "do unto others" philosophy does it?
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 Your foul language defiles your body more than eating meat. You fail to even grasp the teachings of Yeshua. He ate meat himself! Do unto others is in reference to people not animals. Again, you fail to grasp the teachings of Yeshua. Clearly, you have never read the whole Bible or studied it in any serious manner.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 Romans 14:1-4 "Him that is weak in the faith receive ye but not to doubtful disputations. For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand."
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 Who are you to exalt yourself above me because you don't eat meat? I don't judge you because you choose to be a vegan. You cannot judge my conscience before God. To do so is very dangerous for you spiritually. If you don't want to eat me so be it. That is your choice. One day we will both stand before the Creator and he will judge us. Why don't you let him work these things out instead of taking it upon yourself to try and conform others to your own ways?
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
"thou shall not kill" is a very simple thing, to spill blood, whether human or animal, doesn't really flow with jesus do unto others philosophy. Those who love themselves more than God and animals choose to eat meat. Also why are there so many pictures of jesus holding a lamb instead of killing it huh? because you know that it's a ghastly sight, you know it's wrong. For making another creature suffer just to satisfy your tongue, you think a price won't have to be paid? God have mercy on you.
guitarhero666759 4 months ago
@guitarhero666759 You fail to understand the Hebrew word used in the command "thou shalt not kill." Use a concordance and look up the Hebrew word. Then compare to the word used to "kill" in regards to the sacrifices commanded by YHWH. You will most likely discover the difference in meaning. "Thou shalt not kill" is referring to humans, not animals.
SimplyThinkDreams 4 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams as far as i know it was originally thou shalt not kill, but it was changed to serve mans selfish desires to eat meat. In any case, your choice will show your love for God. If someone was going to kill you and eat you, you would protest, you would think it wrong. Similarly, how can you justify causing pain and taking the life of another being, weaker than you? it doesn't matter whether God said yes or no, what do you think would be better?
guitarhero666759 4 months ago
@guitarhero666759 Kill in Exodus 20:13 is translated from the Hebrew word "ratsach" which means: to murder, slay, kill. It is only used in reference to humans. You will not find the word in connection with animals. In Exodus 12:6 the word kill is translated from the Hebrew word "shachat" which means to: slaughter a beast for food or sacrifice. This word is generally used in connection with animals. God has justified taking the life of an animal for me.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams causing pain or not causing pain? You fail to understand the most basic lesson of the bible, compassion. By definition, compassion means to feel or show sympathy and concern for others. killing animals and eating them is the complete opposite, being cruel, causing pain and suffering. That is the quality of a demon not a saint. You have a moral responsibility. Are you going to be humble and do it, or are you just going to be a wuss and keep trying to justify your desires?
guitarhero666759 4 months ago
@guitarhero666759 I bet you haven't even read the whole Bible. It is quite clear you haven't studied it in any seriousness or scholarly manner; rather, you try to bend what little you know about it to fit your own world view. My moral responsibilities are given to me by the Creator. They are not created in my own mind. Where does the Bible teach that eating meat is a quality of a demon? Yeshua himself ate meat. End of story.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams how can you trust the bible when it has been changed so many times? so many verses re translated, why? what was wrong with "thou shalt not kill" you say it actually means murder. i'm hearing conflicting stories about that though. You claim i am bending the bible for my own view, but there's just as much chance you're doing the same. You're the one trying to defend the killing of animals. You make Jesus out to be without compassion.
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 You have to understand that I am going back to the Masoretic text which has been kept by the Jews for a very long time. Certainly some of the meaning is lost is translation, which is why it is necessary to go back to the oldest, most accurate texts available. The Dead Sea scrolls indicate that the Masoretic text is highly accurate as it predates the Masoretic but varies only a tiny bit.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 Additionally, it wouldn't make any sense for God to tell Noah that he can eat meat in Genesis, and then tell Moses in Exodus that you cannot kill animals. It also makes no sense for God to command the sacrifices of animals after giving the command not to kill. You have to take the passage, "thou shalt not kill" in context. I eat meat but I don't just kill animals for no reason. One day when the Creation is purged of sin, mankind will eat his original diet in Genesis 1:29.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams consider the situation in Noahs time, the world was flooded, what choice did he have? does paying for killing not make you a killer as well? hitler didn't actually kill anyone himself, but he is still murderer isn't he?
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 Most likely the doves sold in the Temple were alive. We don't even know if they were being sold for food. Many people buy and sell pets and don't eat them. I highly doubt that Hitler never once killed a man himself. Regardless, Hitler was a murderer because he commanded people to kill other people. God commanded Israel to sacrifice animals to atone for their sin. According to your logic, God would then be a murderer. Such a statement is would be blasphemy.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams let me ask you. Why do you eat meat?
guitarhero666759 3 months ago
@guitarhero666759 I eat meat because it is often available for me to eat and it is allowed by the Creator. Most of the times I eat meat is with other people who prepare meat. Generally, when I buy food to prepare myself, I don't buy meat because good organic meat is too expensive and I don't like to support factory farming or eat animals fed GMO grains. When I prepare my own food, I generally eat the organic food that I grow and process myself.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@botiroti1 why did you refer to Alexander as "the greatest human general"? As far as I remember he commited patricide and he didn't really accomplish anything other than mindless conquest. And if conquest determines greatness Ghengis Khan Surpassed Alexander in Conquest and Greatness. Cruelty and powerful horribleness arent measures of greatness but are bad.
tubebooboob 4 months ago
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God giveth the grains and the fruits of the earth for food: and for righteous man truly there is no other lawful sustenance for the body." ~ Jesus
Strange why would he have said this
scorpk8 5 months ago
God giveth the grains and the fruits of the earth for food: and for righteous man truly there is no other lawful sustenance for the body." ~ Jesus
Strange why would he have said this then
scorpk8 5 months ago
@scorpk8 The Gospel of the Holy Twelve is a fraud. It is not an authoritative source by any means. Clearly, the Torah commands the eating of lamb on the passover. Those who promote the Gospel of the Holy Twelve generally claim that Constantine altered the texts of the Bible. If you did the research, you would find the Old Testament in the KJV of the Bible was translated from the Masoretic text, which was kept by the Jews. Constantine never touched it; rather, he used the Septuagint.
SimplyThinkDreams 5 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams"if you did your research" is that your best line? top religious scholars have provided evidence that shows the bible to be a fraud. Yet I bet you would tell them to do their research. The simple fact that Jesus was born of an nazarene family background hence the name jesus of nazerath. which were all strict vegans I bet you have an arguement for that to don't ya. Jesus never existed and sorry burst your bubble but he's not coming back either. you muppet
scorpk8 5 months ago
@scorpk8 First, you claim to quote Yeshua and tell me he was born of a Nazarene family who were strict vegans. Then you go on to say that Yeshua never existed. You sound confused but seem to what to learn the truth. It doesn't matter what some alleged scholar says. Some scholars say there is evidence for the evolution of man, some say there isn't. How do we know which one is correct? The answer, we must do our own research while desiring with all our heart to now the truth.
SimplyThinkDreams 5 months ago 2
@SimplyThinkDreams
Go to - thenazareneway com/essene_gospel_of_peace_book1.htm -
Search for the words:
- Why, therefore, do you forbid us the flesh of all beasts? Which law comes from God? -
and read the next few paragraphs..
By the way: Jezus also discouraged the cooking and freezing of your food (the freezing part kinda surprises me for that region and era )
Go to the same page and search for: - For burned, frozen and rotted foods will burn, freeze and rot your body also -
menn0777 4 months ago
@menn0777 I could care less what some forged document says. It completely contradicts scripture. The fact that freezing food is even mentioned should raise a red flag. Right around the time of the alleged translation of the Essene Gospel of Peace (1928) freezers and refrigerators had recently become available for in home use. Prior to that, the only time food would have been frozen was in the winter time. Anyways, there is no reason to believe the document is authentic at all.
SimplyThinkDreams 4 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams Why should it raise a red flag when you yourself provide the solution "Prior to that, the only time food would have been frozen was in the winter time."
& I couldn't care less what you choose to believe
menn0777 3 months ago
@menn0777 You shouldn't care what I believe; rather, you should care what the Holy Scriptures say and you should care about the truth. A big red flag is that the sentence you quotes says a frozen food will freeze your body also. Frozen food does not freeze the body. The whole sentence makes no sense especially considering bread is the main food in the Bible and bread is cooked.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams
I guess when you even have trouble interpreting basic language the bible doesn't make much sense to you, with all those parables and all, doesn't it?
menn0777 3 months ago
@menn0777 The Bible makes perfect sense to me and I have a great grasp of the English language. What doesn't make sense is why you would believe a text that all the evidence points to it being a fake. Never have I experienced my body freezing, cooking, or rotting and I eat cooked and frozen/refrigerated foods all the time. Common sense tells us rotten foods are bad to eat. Anyways, you can believe in a fake document if you like but it is foolish. Take care now. May YHWH show you the truth.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams
1. show me that (or even any) evidence pointing to it being fake
2. if you have 'a great grasp of English' how can you not understand that Yahushua simply says rotten, cooked and frozen food are not good for you and that you should eat fresh and raw (which is true fyi)
3. let's hypothesize:
a. I'm wrong
b. you're teaching falsehoods and are insulting Yahushua and YHWH by claiming he killed animals to satisfy a lust for flesh
Wouldn't want to be you on Judgement day
Shalom
menn0777 3 months ago
@menn0777 The fact that the text doesn't line up with the Old Testament teachings is the best evidence that it is fake. The Scriptures must be harmonious. God commanded Israel to eat meat on the Passover (Exodus 12). Numbers 9 teaches that all men must keep the Passover. If they are unclean in the first month they must observe it the second month. Any man who does not keep the sabbath "...shall bear his sin" (Num. 9:13). Yeshua was without sin so he ate meat on the passover.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@menn0777 There is no evidence that eating frozen foods harms the body. Throughout the Old Testament cooked foods are eaten and not once does God suggest eating them is harmful to the body. Jacob and Esau ate lentil stew. All of Israel including Yeshua observed the Passover eating roasted lamb or goat. Yeshua helped Simon Peter and friends catch a multitude of fish. Then he ate roast fish with them and bread (John 21). Yeshua gave his disciples bread as a symbol of his covenant.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@menn0777 In your imagined scenario you state you are wrong which is a fact. If you were to actually state that I am teaching falsehoods about Yeshua eating meat, then you would be bearing false witness against me. I have only taught what the Scriptures clearly say. I don't understand why you don't go back and read them. Study the Passover. If you believe Yeshua was without sin then you must believe he ate meat on the Passover because God said that not doing so was sin (Numbers 9:13). Repent!
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams
1. where's all the evidence I asked for?
(I know you...I know.. you where just making that up (i.e. lying)
2. do you finally understand what Yahushua said?
3. I don't have to testify against you, you are posting your false teachings on youtube.
4. (taking in account the history of point .2) I guess 'Thou shalt not kill' is also too hard for you to understand, isn't it?
5. Me being wrong is not a fact (any evidence?) You being a retarded 'know it all' punk is however
menn0777 3 months ago
@menn0777 I don't claim to know it all but I do know what the Scriptures say in regards to eating meat and that Yeshua ate meat himself. If Yeshua ate meat, and commanded others not to, he would be a hypocrite. That is not the case. The entire Old Testament is the evidence that the document is false. You need to use a concordance and look up the Hebrew word in the command "thou shalt not kill" never once is the same word used in reference to animals.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 months ago
@menn0777 1. God required blood sacrifice of animals. Thou shall not kill applied to murder of humans...please do some reading. It has nothing to do with animals. God killed animals to cover Adam and Eve. God required lambs blood on door posts for the passover and I don't believe they volunteered for this. God required the Hebrews to eat the lamb. Jesus was a Hebrew who fulfilled every requirement that He and God laid down...including the killing and eating of bulls, lambs, goats, doves etc.
RythmandStrings 3 months ago
You deserve a crusty shit on your fuckin eyes!
mackawack12346 5 months ago
@mackawack12346 Be gone disgusting fool.
SimplyThinkDreams 5 months ago
There is more historical evidence for Yeshua than Alexander the great, so guess the greatist human general was a fairy tale.......
botiroti1 6 months ago
Its funny you try to debunk one myth while fastly clinging to the belief in another myth. There is no evidence that jesus was ever alive.
MickScarborough 6 months ago
@MickScarborough There is tons of evidence so apparently you haven't looked very hard. In fact, the whole New Testament is full of testimonies of his existence. Not only do those writers testify to his existence, so do Jews, non- Jews, and non-Christians testify of his existence in other non-Biblical sources. Try doing some diligent research on the topic.
SimplyThinkDreams 6 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams Sorry no. Every mention of jesus is based on the bible. There is not one single mention of him in the Roman documents. The bible does not hold up to scrutiny as a historical document and must be dismissed. If jesus was real and the events claimed for him were real then there would be documentation outside of religous textx.... and there isnt any at all. Jesus fails even the most basic of scrutiny.
MickScarborough 6 months ago
@MickScarborough Like I said, before you obviously haven't done enough research. Writings and writers that mention Yeshua: Josephus, the Talmud, Cornelius Tacitus, Thallus, etc. Most all historians that have studied the Gospels agree that they are historically accurate testimonies. You can deny Yeshua if you want but you will perish with the rest of the wicked for doing so. Now, be gone oh wicked spirit of anti christ.
SimplyThinkDreams 6 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams I think what he means is "Sorry no...I would have to abandon my beliefs if the Bible is authentic, so I'm not going there." In the words of the author of "More Than a Carpenter": "After personally trying to shatter the historicity and validity of the Scriptures, I have come to the conclusion that they are historically trustworthy. If a person discards the Bible as unreliable in this sense, then he or she must discard almost all the literature of antiquity." -Josh McDowell
Jimvesterstallone 6 months ago
"There exists no document from the ancient world witnessed by so excellent a set of textual and historical testimonies, and offering so superb an array of historical data on which an intelligent decision may be made. An honest [person] cannot dismiss a source of this kind. Skepticism regarding the historical credentials of Christianity is based upon an irrational [i.e. antisupernatural] bias."-Dr. Clark H. Pinnock (excerpt from More Than a Carpenter).
I highly recommend everyone read this book.
Jimvesterstallone 6 months ago
@Jimvesterstallone Unfortunately, that type of mentality is all too common.
SimplyThinkDreams 6 months ago
@MickScarborough you are the one that fails at doing even the most basic research..
I am not going to spend my time searching for other references to Jesus for you because there are plenty, you can disbelieve if you want or you can put some effort into it.
thenazareneway com/Physical%20Descriptions%20of%20Jesus.htm
menn0777 4 months ago
OF COURSE!! DO YOU SPIKING PERFECT SPANISCH; CHINSSE AND VENEZUELAN; YOUT TIME IS OVER JETON.....YOU TRY ONLY TO SHOW YOUR GOOD SOUL AND YOUR bible MIND....
yohsua is JESUS :TRADUCTION;IM
jesus super star
jesussuperstar1 6 months ago
@jesussuperstar1 Yeshua is the Creator of All Things. If he has the ability to create all things, I don't think it would be too hard for him to speak any language he wants perfectly. Besides, your English isn't even close to being correct at all. Now be gone wicked liar or I will block you from my channel.
SimplyThinkDreams 6 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams
your time is over sr.
jesus super star
jesussuperstar1 6 months ago
"sorry for you men, your mind have a bifg confusion, one thing is jesus ( myself) is vegan or frutivore, and another what have to do wiht the WRITERS OF BIBLE thing please.two, your fanatic vision of your own life dont letyou look exist the universe firsht of your things. and to end, you dont now nothign abaout the true of jesus. im the only one i now my history . the only thing you can now exactly is your own history, and maybe your mind"
jesus super star
jesussuperstar1 6 months ago
@jesussuperstar1 If you were actually Yeshua, you wouldn't be calling yourself Jesus because Yeshua is his Hebrew name. Also, your English is terrible and if Yeshua was going to speak in English, he would do so in a way that you could actually understand what he is saying. Now be gone you wicked deceiver and liar.
SimplyThinkDreams 6 months ago
SE HOW YOU CAN SEY IM NOT A VEGETARIAN SPECIEMENS;MORE IM EAT FRUITT AND SOME VEGETABLES AND YOU NOW YOUR HISTORY NO MY HISTORY.
JESUS SUPER STAR
jesussuperstar1 6 months ago
@jesussuperstar1 I know the Yeshua was sinless and in order to be sinless he had to keep the passover, which required the eating of lamb. This is extremely clear in the Bible. See Numbers 9:13, "But the man that is unclean and is not in journey, and forbeareth to keep the passover, even the same soul shall be cut off from among his people: because he brought not the offering of YHWH in his appointed season, that man shall bear his sin." Clearly, not partaking in passover is sin.
SimplyThinkDreams 6 months ago
Hi! Please read genesis 1: 29...it's clear like the water!!
DarkHanZelo 6 months ago
@DarkHanZelo Believe me I read it many times and know that we were originally made to eat vegetables and fruits; however, things changed after the flood. The point of this video is merely to show that Yeshua could not have been a vegetarian and sinless at the same time. He surely ate meat on the Passover. If he did not he would have been a sinner according to the law. Yeshua surely followed the law to every jot and tittle, straying not therefrom.
SimplyThinkDreams 6 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams Mmh I have many doubt of that. Many translation from greek or hebrew it's wrong. Many times when in the original Scriptures says "food" it was translate "meat". There is many mistake in translation and since the begin of Church some people, like Saint Girolamo, Saint, Father and Founder of Church took about the wrong translation and how was a problem (he was the first translator from greek and hebrew to latin). So often we must judge with our hearth.
DarkHanZelo 6 months ago
@DarkHanZelo Genesis 9:3 "Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat (food) for you; even as the green herb I have given you all things." I don't know how YHWH can get any more clear than that.
Exodus 12:3-11 "...they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers...and they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavended bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it...it is YHWH's passover.
SimplyThinkDreams 6 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams In this point (Genesis 9.3) you must continue to read. Bible (I'm translate from italian) says: "Only you don't eat the eat with life, with his blood ecc." So...animals have blood...and then? How you can kill an animal and eat without eat his blood?!?!? It's simply impossible. I know that many times Bible has some mistake that get people in confusion.
DarkHanZelo 6 months ago
@DarkHanZelo Yes, the blood of a living being is its life. Many nations back then ritually drank blood. There are still many today who drink blood as well. If you look in Leviticus and read how the priests were to sacrifice and prepare the animals, you will find that they sometimes sprinkled blood in certain places, drained and poured the blood onto the ground. In my area many people hunt their own food. If they kill a deer, they dress the deer and let it hang to drain the blood.
SimplyThinkDreams 6 months ago
@DarkHanZelo Additionally, if you look at the command in Exodus 12 on how to eat the passover it says, "And they shall take of the blood and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it...eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire, his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof" (Exodus 12:7-9). Number 9:12 says not to break any bone of the passover lamb. Clearly, he is talking about an animal here.
SimplyThinkDreams 6 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams For example in genesis 9.6 says "...dominate the earth" but for any translation from original Scriptures it's "preserve the earth" that is VERY different. And a child can understand wich is the right "version". And a question...wich is your creed (you say you're not catholic)?
DarkHanZelo 6 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams In this way you can see clearly that don't eat meat it's a virtuous and mercyfull act. In the pope's book that talk about the life of Jesus, he admit the connection between Jesus and essenes, that were vegetarian. However, many times to find the truth you must deeply search in your hearth, not only on the books :)) Hare Krishna
DarkHanZelo 6 months ago
@DarkHanZelo Numbers 9:10-13 " yet he shall keep the passover of YHWH. The 14th day of the month at even shall they keep it, and eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs. They shall leave none of it unto the morning, not break any bone of it: according to all the ordinances of the passover they shall keep it. But the man that is clean and is not in a journey, and forbeareth to keep the passover, even the same soul shall be cut off from among his people...that mans shall bear his sin."
SimplyThinkDreams 6 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams Ok, I read from my italian Bible..He talk about Easter. And that you must follow SPECIFIC offer ritual to eat in a PARTICULAR DAY for PARTICULAR people. In vedic Scriptures too you can offer meat to God, BUT you must follow specific ritual to elevate your soul and the animal's soul. The offer, in vedics tradition, it's very important to remember that nothing it's your, all belong to God. In general after Jesus (Buddha teach the same) people must abstain from eating meat
DarkHanZelo 6 months ago
@DarkHanZelo If you research "Easter" you will find that the tradition of Easter is in fact pagan and was brought into Christianity by Constantine. Eggs and rabbits are ancient pagan fertility symbols. Christmas is also pagan as well, along with the Christmas tree. I know it is more difficult to find the truth in Italia because it is dominated by the Catholic Church, which is the most corrupt religious organization on the planet. May YHWH bless you in your search for truth. Ciao mio amico.
SimplyThinkDreams 6 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams Ok, but before Jesus (and Costantine!) easter was the day that remember the liberation of Jewish from Egypt. So...in the Numbers 9.13 God says to hollow the easter feast with APPROPRIATE and SPECIFIC rituals for this SPECIFIC day. How can you say "Jesus wasn't vegetarian"? It's a generalization for me. The fact that I'm italian doesn't mean that I'm Catholic. I think with my mind and my thougth inspire from indian tradition. I can see the same things in all religion.
DarkHanZelo 6 months ago
@DarkHanZelo No, Easter is a pagan tradition infused with Christianity by Constantine. You will never find the word Easter in the Masoretic text. It is called the passover or in Hebrew Pesach. Israel was commanded, "And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to YHWH throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever" (Exodus 12:14). I wasn't saying you are Catholic, I was saying you are in an area dominated by Catholicism.
SimplyThinkDreams 6 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams But in some religion there are things not clear. Study other "tradition" (better to say tradition and not "religion", that it's something for the crowd) help to understand some important details. In this way now I can apprecciate better the teaching of Jesus, for example. So I'm interested to discuss the point of "Jesus wasn't vegetarian" in serious manner, if you want.
DarkHanZelo 6 months ago
There is some scriptures, like "Omelie Clementine" (in italian) where Saint Peter says that "eating meat it's like open the door to daemons in his self". So the "official" Scripture isn't complete to teach the Jesus message because in the Concil of Nicea the roman emperor and the church unificated the christians and roman empire with compromises...The Truth Hasn't compromises! This is politic, or religion, but not mystique. It's different.
DarkHanZelo 6 months ago
@teachmedailyGod Yes, you are right. I tend to reply maybe when I shouldn't but it is always in hope of snapping someone into a mindset where they realize that their world view doesn't work when challenged that they might take the necessary steps to discover the truth for themselves. Thanks for the comment. May YHWH bless you as well! Shalom
SimplyThinkDreams 7 months ago
This is not the place to teach you the coded text. You wish to derive understanding from a neutered English translation, that's fine.You said:"No where in Gds' word does it mention.." (i.e., the minimum requirement). According to a neutered English translation, you're correct; it also doesn't mention how to make fringes, the definition of work for Sabbath, how to slaughter (yet it says: "as I showed you"),etc. but they knew these laws,derived from the coded text;Jesus himself kept these laws.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever All I asked for was a citation of where you claim the olive sized portion is in the law. If you are getting that from the Midrash or Talmud, those are the traditions and doctrines of men, not of YHWH. Yeshua rebuked the Pharisees and Sadducees for following such traditions. A perfect example is when the disciples plucked grain from the field and ate. According to the traditions of men, doing such was forbidden on the Shabbat. Yeshua clearly taught otherwise.
SimplyThinkDreams 7 months ago
1st: The Passover sacrifice is the only time a Jew is commanded to eat meat. 2ndly, according to law, the minimum amount to be consumed per person is the volume of an olive. If meat eating was so common, the experience would be devoid of meaning. Btw, it was limited to only lamb or goats which were used as part of idolatry in ancient Egypt. Very specific purpose, exact time, minimum quantity requirement do not equate to a lifestyle of meat eating.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever First off, Jews are from the tribe of Judah and the Passover was commanded to be observed by all of Israel. Second, no where in God's Word does it mention eating an olive sized portion; rather, the command was to eat all of the lamb before the next morning. The portions were one lamb per household and if the lamb was too big for the household, they could share with their neighbors (Exodus 12). Levites were also commanded to eat the meat of the sacrifices
SimplyThinkDreams 7 months ago
@SimplyThinkDreams "You shall not leave any of it until morning; any of it that is left until morning you shall burn in the fire". That does not mean the command was to eat all of it. It meant that it could only be eaten up until a certain time. There'd be no need for the statement: "any of it that is left until morning you shall burn in the fire" if they had to stuff themselves with the entire sacrifice.
mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever "And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire" (Exodus 12:10). The context clearly shows that they are to eat as much of it as possible and whatever is left after they ate what they could eat should be burnt. Obviously YHWH didn't want to force people to eat more than they could handle; however, to suggest the Israelites only ate olive sized portions is absurd.
SimplyThinkDreams 7 months ago
@mrtruthforever Meat was very common for them to eat. Heck Israel was a Nation composed mostly of shepards. The meaning of eating the Passover is acted out through the other actions such as putting the blood on the door posts, eating it in haste with staff in hand and loins girded, with bitter herbs, and the fact that they ate only unleavened bread with the Passover lamb.
I never once mentioned about Yeshua having a lifestyle of eating meat; rather, I pointed out he wasn't vegetarian.
SimplyThinkDreams 7 months ago
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mrtruthforever 7 months ago
@gyrate4 I cannot even make sense of this comment. My point is you claim God does not exist and seem to support the idea of evolution. Evolution states that the ultimate goal of