@mytoprecords err...mind elaborating on how&WHEN Sid was a"RICH FANCY BOY"?McLaren kept them(the Pistols)utterly poor,Sid came from NOTHING financially(his mother was a drug addicted nomad,bouncing him from council flat to council flat(aka very low income housing projects).Prior to the Pistols,he was on WELFARE(known as "the dole" in England),living in abandoned apartments.In NYC he made a few grand&another few grand for "My Way".He&Nancy shot it all up&someone stole the rest.He was NEVER rich.
What's beautiful about a completely WRONG comment like that? valerysgirl seems to forget that the Pistols cancelled 2/3 of the US tour so that Sid could get straight.
"so listen to fucking music! They're lives were their lives, those were their decisions" "Sid was hot"
punk rock isnt about listen to the music and enjoy it. it isnt about whos hot or not and it isnt about "the idol of it" u have glam rock for this, and metal for some. not punk. and what decisions? their are good decisions for humanity, and bad ones, Sid wasnt a god, he was aPunk,n' a moron and probably died from it. u go against the ideological of Punk, making sid like he is your fucking idol.
@lesterclaypool1 just got back from a month in spain to get off the methadone, jobs a fuckin goodun mate, now i just need to avoid certain people and im golden. no more cravings or shitty clucking thank god so i can get on with my life
Let me get this straight: You cold turkeyed off of the drink?
My man, you may be the toughest, or at least the most masochistic, hard core motherfucker that I've ever met. You do realize that just doing that makes you bulletproof?
You're gonna be fine, brother, just fine.
I love great news like this, you just made today a great day for me.
I'm not even gonna wish you luck, I don't think you need it, but I will throw JC a few words for you.
I hate people for trying to make things up. Like, Nancy killed Sid, Courtney killed Kurt, Pamela Courson killed Jim Morrison etc. C'mon people! You're so dumb. Music is what they were related to, so listen to fucking music! They're lives were their lives, those were their decisions, private things should not be discussed. Who has a right to judge anyone, really? Who is that perfect? !
Sid (Shit) wasn't a musician. He was just a poor junky,picked up from the streets just because of his idiot image. Let me say this: SID KILLED THE SEX PISTOLS!!
Insight is a really good thing - you should get some.
When you're addicted, it's not like you can just quit. Some time before Nancy died she asked her mom for money so both her and Sid could go to some detox hospital. They wanted a life without drugs.
@st1nee I disagree. It is possible, just not easy. It takes a heavy inner strength and a lot of willpower, but it can be done. I know, because I did it many years ago.
@radrobabq Ah, sorry, I see how you could have misunderstood me. Anyways, that's not what I meant; I was just trying to point out that it often is very, very hard. It's also very possible, though.
well ill hafto go with Ramonov1010...i mean sid vicious dont get me wrong he definatly made a stain on musical history...but what exactly DID he contribute? all he did was do heroin all day every day with his mentally fukked up girlfriend...idk i still respect sid vicious in some weird way...but not musically...
@electrohead20 Bravo, sir. His musical talent was next to nothing, but that is not important. He embodied the punk attitude, and still does to this day. Any punk can tell you that the music is shit. It's all about putting on one hell of a show, and not giving a damn about what other people think.
@Valerysgirl: Nancy was a cunt. To accuse her of being an angel of any sort is blasphemous. And to Romanov, why don't you take a fucking nap or something. There is no proof that Sid did or did not kill Nancy, and if you fucking knew anything you would know how possible it is that someone else came in when they were fucking drugged out and unconscious. At any rate, nothing he did earned him getting offed by his own mother so why don't you have some fucking respect you cunt.
PUNK ROCK=SID VICIOUS. Do you think punk rock was formed by angels? It is what it is. Stop bitchin about Sid being a junkie. Everyone in this business had some kind of addiction. Heroin was the worst, but if Johnny Rotten wanted the perfect band then he should have not hired Sid in the first place, he kept him in the band, why because Sid kept the image. Did anyone from that band put him in rehab or take a break so he could shake it, hell no. No one helped Sid, Nancy was Sid's fallen angel.
Spiteone77, punk is around, just not like it was though. It was better in the 70's. Punk is not about drugs. It is the kind of music, character that made punk. Drugs just came along with it. Not saying go out and do it or anything. No punk bands in this day and age will ever come close to the punk image it once had years ago. I was a kid when the Sex Pistols were making history. Today, it is all about appearances and how many big venues they make. It was the smaller venues that made punk.
@valerysgirl Punk is alive, just underground. Like all musical trends, it will come full circle eventually. Nirvana carried on the tradition in their own way, and others will follow. The music on the radio is now just horrible, the same as it was before the Sex Pistols and Nirvana shook things up. It's coming back, don't worry.
@valerysgirl Bravo! couldn't have said it better myself... Malcolm, Gods rest his soul, was way too eager to make cash from Sid's chaos. If he were a smart man, he would have seen this coming and done something about it. That being said, it is very hard to strike down this particular addiction.
so ur pretty much sayin he was a nothing a but a nice shirt on a hanger while johnny paul steve and glen were actual band members that made a different in music with the image while sid just brought a ''IMAGE'' !? BIG FUCKIN DEAL!
i guess bitches and pussies like you would let a image inspire u rather than someones passion and talent for music....FUCK YOU!
@MrSodaBelly...WTF are you talking about? Sid was awesome and I loved his singing too...I am not inspired by image, dork! I am probably one of the most critical people on the planet when it comes to talent and I don't see much talent these days. Call me a bitch or a pussy again and I will hunt your ass down like the dog you are. So FUCK YOU as well...kiss my royal white ass.
"Did anyone from that band put him in rehab or take a break so he could shake it, hell no."
They cancelled over two thirds of a US tour so that he could shake it at great expense to the record company and management. Are you fucking kidding me? Rehab? "Rehab" didn't come into fashion until the mid eighties with poor old drunk Betty Ford. Prior to that you put people in the hospital to dry out which the band and management did with Sid multiple times.
@lesterclaypool1 Right on, once again. So much more I'd like to say to you about this subject, but, the character limit makes it too tedious. I appreciate all of your comments regarding this subject, as I am sure you can see by now. It is a refreshing relief.Anywhere I go and have gone, internet wise, all you read is about how enchanting the "romance" between them was. No, not quite.Had Sid just waited a bit longer to join the Pistols,she'd have had no interest in him&he'd probably be here.
I've seen men do some pretty stupid things for the want of a woman, have done some, myself, if I'm honest. If all reports are to be believed Nancy was the first time that Sid ever got his dick wet, pardon the vulgarity of the preceeding statement but I think that that discribes the situation, and that can have a powerful effect on a man. Combine that with a powerful narcotic like heroin and you have a literary tragedy waiting to happen.
@lesterclaypool1 Oh,even if she wasn't the first,I can appreciate what you are saying.That is why I said if he hadn't been in the Pistols when she came around and went after Johnny,Johnny could've pushed her on him all he wanted;she probably wouldn't have been as interested (or interested at all) in giving Sid a shot because he wouldn't have been in a band.
i know what sid means about dope sickness being the worst sickness in the world cuz i've been through it dozens of times.being a junkie is no fun at all,it's all fun and games in the beginning and then it grabs u by the throat and doesn't let go.i've done every drug there is,but heroin was the one that took me down to the depths of hell.i lost EVERYTHING.stay away from it.cuz once you start you can't stop.i still struggle with sobriety
@X0MissHolly0X I agree. I'm on the Clinic now, but I've been so dope sick I couldn't walk and my band still expecting me to perform. I'm the singer and bassist so it's not like I could just hide away in the background.Dope sickness is the worst feeling I've ever had. Alcohol DTs are bad but if you can make it 4 days you're O.K.Dope goes on and on.I have no clue how Sid did the American tour dope sick.Everytime he ate he puked,shitting himself,but noone gave in and let him have a little.
methadone is even harder to kick, but at least it helps you get some semblance of control in your life.
what really sucks about dope is that its really only truly great in the beginning, and you can never seem to get quite so high again, and then you really aren't high at all anymore, just trying to get normal, and thats when you start thinking what a drag this is, the worst kind of rat race.
@X0MissHolly0X Hey Miss Holly....hell? god aint it just! Tried to go through with it two weeks ago and lasted on 16 hours before playing cat and mouse with mum and dad to get back up to london for a hit! On Subutex now but will only realise the full horror of what i've done when completely clean. Hate the feeling of knowing that the slightest slip in routine or medication equals living horror in my life. What a total waste of time it's been! Hope your're okay now, good luck!
Have you seen the movie or read the book "Permanent Midnight"? On sobriety the writer, Jerry Stahl, says, "When you're straight paying the phone bill can be more daunting than your worst 3 am narcotic hell."
Getting off the hustle truly is the hardest part of cleaning up. You do that damn poppy long enough you not only forget how to act in polite society, you sometimes even forget how to be human.
sid definately killed nancy, no doubt about it. nancy wanted to die, they had a death pact even. i think the depiction on the movie sid and nancy, is about what happened pretty much. they were all drugged up, not just on heroin, but on all kinds of shit. and they got in some kind of fight, because they ran out of heroin basically, and nancy got stabbed. i have no feelings whatsoever when it comes to nancy. she was the very worst person for sid, and she destroyed the sex pistols.
At the end of the day, I think Sid got what he wanted. He's a romanticized punk icon. Not for any talent...only because he was a self destructive junkie who look cool and allegedly killed his girlfriend. And people will continue to romanticize him and glorify him only because he had style and left a good looking corpse.
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Sid was a no-talent, obnoxious, rude, couldn't even play bass (they unplugged the instrument during shows), and a murderer. Tigerlily: what do you mean "allegedly killed his girlfriend"? He did kill her. Good looking corpse? Hhahaha...he was a skinny, ugly, scabby, filthy junkie. Good riddance, and it is a shame he is still idolized when he contributed absolutely nothing to music or the world.
@Romanov1010 True, he couldn't play bass and I never understand when girls like him since they often don't know squat about him. However, you have no proof that he killed Nancy. Nancy was a loudmouth and it's certainly arguable that many people would have taken a hammer to her if given the chance. They were both addicts and because of that they were always bound to run into the foulest of people. It's a completely likely story that she could've been killed by a no-nonsense drug dealer.
of course sid`s description of rattling is spot on cos he was a junkie so he obviously knows what he is talking about. I was talking about john`s saying heroin is the only drug that robs you of all creativity which is true r.i.p SID...
nobody was so expressive and self destructive like SID VICIOUS in the rock history...yes, he repeated some rock stars self destruction but he was more self destructive..
Not Sid obviously! The men you are attracted to you like to be treated bad by & yet you still come back for more. For starters you have already written to me 3 times in the last 24 hours & I havent been nice to you at all!!!! hahaha
Ok Vicious might have been a victim but remember this, his life was going nowhere & was offered the chance to join the Pistols at 19. Instead of learning to play bass he acted like a rock cliche & was too jealous of Rotten. What I mean by bad treatment is this.. you come across as the sort of woman who gets off on being treated badly by a man & still you come back for more, perhaps u r on one of those "I can change him" type ego trips so stop latching onto Junkie losers like Sid. Thanks
Glad I pissed you off. Ah no on second thoughts I have changed my mind . Maybe your the sort of bird that gets off on bad treatment? I tell you what ,look up on you tube an audio interview with Sid in 1977 with Judy Vermoel. Judy comes across nice & Vicious is just acting like a total bastard even makes Liam Gallager sound like a intellect. Now Lydon was a lot sharper & amongst the bite was humour but Sid was a loser.
Sid's demise may have been written on the wall........His mum was an addict..His upbringing was turbulence...........Nancy just made the inevitable happed...far too soon....
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Fuckin hell, Sid was funny yes, he looked the part and was good at openin his mouth at the wrong time to piss people off but he did absolutely fuck all for the band, All he really did was try and copy John.
You are right. Dont know why you got flagged down for it. If Vicious had anything going for him he would be alive (probaly forged a career similar to Billy Idol or something)
Yeah, You probably would say fuck the Heroin, if you're a user or was a user in which you would be on Meth right now. But anyway Where in the Fuck that I said that Sid killed Nancy? I really think that It was a botched suicide, or big mistake. Never said that he killed her! READ!
well actually i didn't meant it for you, it was more like for the peolpe who read comments and that might think sid killed her, not meant for you specially!, sorry anyway
I don't know for sure but I believe he did. Hey he admitted he did himself. When you are on heroin you become a total different person and most of the time you don't know what the hell you're doing. Nancy was a very volatile person and they played with knives anyway. I can honestly see them getting into one of their crazy fights and he ended up stabbing her once while he was off his head on heroin. He really regretted if afterwards because they had a typical codependent junkie relationship.
Herion Had Him depressed, I don't think he even knew who he was anymore. And I really think that he started to hate himself for It. They say Nancy was the one who started him on that Shit. I guess Love Really does Kill. R.I.P. SID
Ok, all... Just let me say, I didn't expect this much feedback from this clip. This is awesome, and yet tragic. My son is named Sidney after this man. I loved Sid while he was alive. I love Sid even more after death. Sid and Kurt Cobain taught me very valuable lessons about hero worship. I loved both of them for what they did for the music world. I don't know what to say... I appreciate the feedback from you all...
What, exactly, did Sid Vicious do for the music world other than break up the Sex Pistols? He didn't play on either album, rarely was plugged in live. He was a victim of celebrity, not a musician and certainly not a Hero. You want to learn the true definition of the work hero google Lenny Skutnik or Wesley Autrey.
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I think it's pretty sick to romanticize someone who was nothing more than a self destructive junkie dressed up in edgy clothing. Kurt atleast did something for music but Sid didn't do anything. Didn't even play bass. He just trotted around on stage dressed up in Vivienne Westwood clothing and spitting and pogoing with the crowd.
Undermine their pompous authority, reject their moral standards, make anarchy and disorder your trademarks. Cause as much chaos and disruption as possible but dont let them take you ALIVE-Sid Vicious RIP
WHAT IS ALL OVER SID'S FACE??????
ckotcher1 5 months ago
@ckotcher1 in alan parker's book it is said that he had had a one-side encounter with an off-duty US marine..
babyjane471 4 months ago
@ckotcher1 he used to cut himself when they were on stage...
cmclsrnsee 2 months ago
im an ex heroin addict and the wayjohny describes it is true. it totally raped be from everything
TRIPNnuttzNfcknBUTTZ 6 months ago
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SID VICIOUS WAS A RICH FANCY BOY IN REAL LIFE...WHAT A FAKE PUNK IS A CROCK OF SHIT
mytoprecords 7 months ago
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ColeeWolee 7 months ago 2
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@mytoprecords err...mind elaborating on how&WHEN Sid was a"RICH FANCY BOY"?McLaren kept them(the Pistols)utterly poor,Sid came from NOTHING financially(his mother was a drug addicted nomad,bouncing him from council flat to council flat(aka very low income housing projects).Prior to the Pistols,he was on WELFARE(known as "the dole" in England),living in abandoned apartments.In NYC he made a few grand&another few grand for "My Way".He&Nancy shot it all up&someone stole the rest.He was NEVER rich.
ColeeWolee 7 months ago 18
@2:06 dave grohl's birthday! haha sorry i just had to share that.
<3 sid vicious!
andedi1 7 months ago
@andedi1 awesome :)
cmclsrnsee 2 months ago
what's with the cut on his face?
musicdork4ever 8 months ago
@TechoNecroRX
What's beautiful about a completely WRONG comment like that? valerysgirl seems to forget that the Pistols cancelled 2/3 of the US tour so that Sid could get straight.
lesterclaypool1 9 months ago 39
All you fuckin Posers!
Gawd...people piss me off sometimes!
Sid Vicious was the greatest Punk Rocker who ever lived! Next to Danzig, that is...
Even today, his influence in the Sex Pistols is still noted, and still as popular as before!
HarukaVanReign 1 year ago 2
@HarukaVanReign
"Even today, his influence in the Sex Pistols is still noted"
You're absolutely right, I know of very few people who don't acknowlege that Sid broke the Sex Pistols up.
lesterclaypool1 1 year ago
@HarukaVanReign
"Posers"?
How "punk" of you.
Sid was a great punk salesman but a rocker he was not.
lesterclaypool1 9 months ago
@lesterclaypool1 your a wanker in what way was he not punk ??
ImCoreyForReal 7 months ago
@ImCoreyForReal
Learn how to read a comment properly before you start an argument about something that the comment doesn't say.
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"so listen to fucking music! They're lives were their lives, those were their decisions" "Sid was hot"
punk rock isnt about listen to the music and enjoy it. it isnt about whos hot or not and it isnt about "the idol of it" u have glam rock for this, and metal for some. not punk. and what decisions? their are good decisions for humanity, and bad ones, Sid wasnt a god, he was aPunk,n' a moron and probably died from it. u go against the ideological of Punk, making sid like he is your fucking idol.
PTFtraceur 1 year ago
I'm struggling with it now. Fuck what Burroghs calls "methadone pity" If you can beat it it proves you have a set of Bollocks!
JamesLaserpimpWalsh 1 year ago
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
How you doing, man? It ain't easy, that's for sure.
lesterclaypool1 1 year ago
@lesterclaypool1 just got back from a month in spain to get off the methadone, jobs a fuckin goodun mate, now i just need to avoid certain people and im golden. no more cravings or shitty clucking thank god so i can get on with my life
JamesLaserpimpWalsh 1 year ago
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
Let me get this straight: You cold turkeyed off of the drink?
My man, you may be the toughest, or at least the most masochistic, hard core motherfucker that I've ever met. You do realize that just doing that makes you bulletproof?
You're gonna be fine, brother, just fine.
I love great news like this, you just made today a great day for me.
I'm not even gonna wish you luck, I don't think you need it, but I will throw JC a few words for you.
Go ON with your bad self :)!
lesterclaypool1 1 year ago
His mom accidently killed him ? How Sad..
wisesatyr72 1 year ago
"Gimme a fix"
MsJeffersonAirplane 1 year ago
they mention san francisco and show the village people.
kimberlymarie21990 1 year ago
I hate people for trying to make things up. Like, Nancy killed Sid, Courtney killed Kurt, Pamela Courson killed Jim Morrison etc. C'mon people! You're so dumb. Music is what they were related to, so listen to fucking music! They're lives were their lives, those were their decisions, private things should not be discussed. Who has a right to judge anyone, really? Who is that perfect? !
TheFlyingsky 1 year ago 6
why are the sex pistols "hiding" their identity in this film? its not like the world doesn't know what they look like, even though they are older...
Zorsha 1 year ago
0:59 so cute! :3
BlackieMorphine 1 year ago
sid looks really sick, all bloated like somethings wrong with his liver,,,,,,that's more than drugs going on here..
RoxyStreet 1 year ago
0:38 was that Edie Sedgewick?
whitestripes77 1 year ago
@whitestripes77 Considering that Edie Sedgewick died years before, she has no association with the Sex Pistols, so no I don't think it is.
DreamingWonderer 1 year ago
i have this movie and i love it alot:)
filth and the fury is awsome ;-)
Heavymetalpunker92x 1 year ago
sid sounds posh p.s sid ur m8s let u die
mikkifly 1 year ago
Sid (Shit) wasn't a musician. He was just a poor junky,picked up from the streets just because of his idiot image. Let me say this: SID KILLED THE SEX PISTOLS!!
ijsschots 1 year ago
@LadyLillianContessa Sid's fuckin' dead
TheSpoffiest 1 year ago
do a search for this!!!! "sids room" on you tube "SIDS ROOM" FOOKIN CRAZY!do a search for this!!!! "sids room" on you tube "SIDS ROOM" FOOKIN CRAZY!
lukesfarm 1 year ago
@lukesfarm stop trying to promote your crap video.
I watched it and its ridiculously unrelated.
Fuck off
Galidor38 1 year ago
@LadyLillianContessa yea, they say when he wasnt doped as hell , he was really kind and funny. from what i've heard, he had a way with kids too.
damoransdowndablock 1 year ago 3
Romanov1010, you stupid, stupid cow.
Insight is a really good thing - you should get some.
When you're addicted, it's not like you can just quit. Some time before Nancy died she asked her mom for money so both her and Sid could go to some detox hospital. They wanted a life without drugs.
r.i.p, Sid and Nancy
st1nee 1 year ago
@st1nee I disagree. It is possible, just not easy. It takes a heavy inner strength and a lot of willpower, but it can be done. I know, because I did it many years ago.
radrobabq 1 year ago
@radrobabq Ah, sorry, I see how you could have misunderstood me. Anyways, that's not what I meant; I was just trying to point out that it often is very, very hard. It's also very possible, though.
st1nee 1 year ago
well ill hafto go with Ramonov1010...i mean sid vicious dont get me wrong he definatly made a stain on musical history...but what exactly DID he contribute? all he did was do heroin all day every day with his mentally fukked up girlfriend...idk i still respect sid vicious in some weird way...but not musically...
electrohead20 1 year ago
@electrohead20 Bravo, sir. His musical talent was next to nothing, but that is not important. He embodied the punk attitude, and still does to this day. Any punk can tell you that the music is shit. It's all about putting on one hell of a show, and not giving a damn about what other people think.
radrobabq 1 year ago
I love Sid! < 3 I wasn't even born when he was around. My mom was only like seven when he died. R.I.P. Sid! < 3
CarryMe001 1 year ago
0:27 jajajajjaja oh, Sid <3
1Beatlemaniac1 1 year ago 4
@Valerysgirl: Nancy was a cunt. To accuse her of being an angel of any sort is blasphemous. And to Romanov, why don't you take a fucking nap or something. There is no proof that Sid did or did not kill Nancy, and if you fucking knew anything you would know how possible it is that someone else came in when they were fucking drugged out and unconscious. At any rate, nothing he did earned him getting offed by his own mother so why don't you have some fucking respect you cunt.
Saramphetamine 2 years ago
watch the movie/documentary "Who Killed Nancy?" most of Sid and Nancy's closest friends were interviewed in the movie, even Glen Matlock was there.
LynneGuwapo 2 years ago
@LynneGuwapo Hmmm... Thanks, Lynne... I will look this one up tonight!
radrobabq 1 year ago
PUNK ROCK=SID VICIOUS. Do you think punk rock was formed by angels? It is what it is. Stop bitchin about Sid being a junkie. Everyone in this business had some kind of addiction. Heroin was the worst, but if Johnny Rotten wanted the perfect band then he should have not hired Sid in the first place, he kept him in the band, why because Sid kept the image. Did anyone from that band put him in rehab or take a break so he could shake it, hell no. No one helped Sid, Nancy was Sid's fallen angel.
valerysgirl 2 years ago
Yeah look at Pete Dorethy, Kate Moss, Amy Winehouse...some kinds of addiction
Punk not dead, yet^^
Spiteone77 2 years ago 4
Spiteone77, punk is around, just not like it was though. It was better in the 70's. Punk is not about drugs. It is the kind of music, character that made punk. Drugs just came along with it. Not saying go out and do it or anything. No punk bands in this day and age will ever come close to the punk image it once had years ago. I was a kid when the Sex Pistols were making history. Today, it is all about appearances and how many big venues they make. It was the smaller venues that made punk.
valerysgirl 2 years ago
@valerysgirl Punk is alive, just underground. Like all musical trends, it will come full circle eventually. Nirvana carried on the tradition in their own way, and others will follow. The music on the radio is now just horrible, the same as it was before the Sex Pistols and Nirvana shook things up. It's coming back, don't worry.
radrobabq 1 year ago 4
@valerysgirl Bravo! couldn't have said it better myself... Malcolm, Gods rest his soul, was way too eager to make cash from Sid's chaos. If he were a smart man, he would have seen this coming and done something about it. That being said, it is very hard to strike down this particular addiction.
radrobabq 1 year ago
@valerysgirl stfu image!
so ur pretty much sayin he was a nothing a but a nice shirt on a hanger while johnny paul steve and glen were actual band members that made a different in music with the image while sid just brought a ''IMAGE'' !? BIG FUCKIN DEAL!
i guess bitches and pussies like you would let a image inspire u rather than someones passion and talent for music....FUCK YOU!
MrSodaBelly 1 year ago
@MrSodaBelly...WTF are you talking about? Sid was awesome and I loved his singing too...I am not inspired by image, dork! I am probably one of the most critical people on the planet when it comes to talent and I don't see much talent these days. Call me a bitch or a pussy again and I will hunt your ass down like the dog you are. So FUCK YOU as well...kiss my royal white ass.
valerysgirl 1 year ago
@valerysgirl
"Did anyone from that band put him in rehab or take a break so he could shake it, hell no."
They cancelled over two thirds of a US tour so that he could shake it at great expense to the record company and management. Are you fucking kidding me? Rehab? "Rehab" didn't come into fashion until the mid eighties with poor old drunk Betty Ford. Prior to that you put people in the hospital to dry out which the band and management did with Sid multiple times.
Nancy was the problem.
lesterclaypool1 1 year ago 8
@lesterclaypool1 Right on, once again. So much more I'd like to say to you about this subject, but, the character limit makes it too tedious. I appreciate all of your comments regarding this subject, as I am sure you can see by now. It is a refreshing relief.Anywhere I go and have gone, internet wise, all you read is about how enchanting the "romance" between them was. No, not quite.Had Sid just waited a bit longer to join the Pistols,she'd have had no interest in him&he'd probably be here.
ColeeWolee 1 year ago
@ColeeWolee
He may have been, or he may not.
I've seen men do some pretty stupid things for the want of a woman, have done some, myself, if I'm honest. If all reports are to be believed Nancy was the first time that Sid ever got his dick wet, pardon the vulgarity of the preceeding statement but I think that that discribes the situation, and that can have a powerful effect on a man. Combine that with a powerful narcotic like heroin and you have a literary tragedy waiting to happen.
lesterclaypool1 1 year ago
@lesterclaypool1 Oh,even if she wasn't the first,I can appreciate what you are saying.That is why I said if he hadn't been in the Pistols when she came around and went after Johnny,Johnny could've pushed her on him all he wanted;she probably wouldn't have been as interested (or interested at all) in giving Sid a shot because he wouldn't have been in a band.
ColeeWolee 1 year ago
@valerysgirl well said but Nancy did ruin him she wanted to be famous and used Sid and made him a junkie
MsRayan01 9 months ago 3
i know what sid means about dope sickness being the worst sickness in the world cuz i've been through it dozens of times.being a junkie is no fun at all,it's all fun and games in the beginning and then it grabs u by the throat and doesn't let go.i've done every drug there is,but heroin was the one that took me down to the depths of hell.i lost EVERYTHING.stay away from it.cuz once you start you can't stop.i still struggle with sobriety
X0MissHolly0X 2 years ago 48
@X0MissHolly0X I agree. I'm on the Clinic now, but I've been so dope sick I couldn't walk and my band still expecting me to perform. I'm the singer and bassist so it's not like I could just hide away in the background.Dope sickness is the worst feeling I've ever had. Alcohol DTs are bad but if you can make it 4 days you're O.K.Dope goes on and on.I have no clue how Sid did the American tour dope sick.Everytime he ate he puked,shitting himself,but noone gave in and let him have a little.
scumgod13 2 years ago
methadone is even harder to kick, but at least it helps you get some semblance of control in your life.
what really sucks about dope is that its really only truly great in the beginning, and you can never seem to get quite so high again, and then you really aren't high at all anymore, just trying to get normal, and thats when you start thinking what a drag this is, the worst kind of rat race.
Dix994 1 year ago
@X0MissHolly0X Good luck, love, and bravo for kicking. I understand completely.
radrobabq 1 year ago 7
@radrobabq
dont give up, keep fighting! good luck!
spacenoise5 1 year ago
@X0MissHolly0X Hey Miss Holly....hell? god aint it just! Tried to go through with it two weeks ago and lasted on 16 hours before playing cat and mouse with mum and dad to get back up to london for a hit! On Subutex now but will only realise the full horror of what i've done when completely clean. Hate the feeling of knowing that the slightest slip in routine or medication equals living horror in my life. What a total waste of time it's been! Hope your're okay now, good luck!
Greggels 1 year ago
@Greggels
Have you seen the movie or read the book "Permanent Midnight"? On sobriety the writer, Jerry Stahl, says, "When you're straight paying the phone bill can be more daunting than your worst 3 am narcotic hell."
Getting off the hustle truly is the hardest part of cleaning up. You do that damn poppy long enough you not only forget how to act in polite society, you sometimes even forget how to be human.
God bless, man. I know that you'll do fine.
lesterclaypool1 1 year ago
sid definately killed nancy, no doubt about it. nancy wanted to die, they had a death pact even. i think the depiction on the movie sid and nancy, is about what happened pretty much. they were all drugged up, not just on heroin, but on all kinds of shit. and they got in some kind of fight, because they ran out of heroin basically, and nancy got stabbed. i have no feelings whatsoever when it comes to nancy. she was the very worst person for sid, and she destroyed the sex pistols.
MsSaturn3 2 years ago 2
@MsSaturn3 good comment
blade0954 1 year ago
At the end of the day, I think Sid got what he wanted. He's a romanticized punk icon. Not for any talent...only because he was a self destructive junkie who look cool and allegedly killed his girlfriend. And people will continue to romanticize him and glorify him only because he had style and left a good looking corpse.
Tigerlily21 2 years ago
So?
krankpuff 2 years ago
@Tigerlily21
I don't know why people are giving you thumbs down. i agree entirely. Sid didn't even fucking play the bass
xmoodudex63 2 years ago
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Sid was a no-talent, obnoxious, rude, couldn't even play bass (they unplugged the instrument during shows), and a murderer. Tigerlily: what do you mean "allegedly killed his girlfriend"? He did kill her. Good looking corpse? Hhahaha...he was a skinny, ugly, scabby, filthy junkie. Good riddance, and it is a shame he is still idolized when he contributed absolutely nothing to music or the world.
Romanov1010 2 years ago
@Romanov1010 So what are you? a fat superstar or something? go suck a dick a day.
waltzingpeter 2 years ago 4
@Romanov1010 True, he couldn't play bass and I never understand when girls like him since they often don't know squat about him. However, you have no proof that he killed Nancy. Nancy was a loudmouth and it's certainly arguable that many people would have taken a hammer to her if given the chance. They were both addicts and because of that they were always bound to run into the foulest of people. It's a completely likely story that she could've been killed by a no-nonsense drug dealer.
WhiskeyyWoman 1 year ago 3
dont hate,
but i dont like nancy she fucked up
his life
JesssicaRoseee 2 years ago
1.27 ...lydon`s description of heroin is spot on!
stevensmith288 2 years ago
No, Sid's descriptionof heroin and withdrawals is spot on!
jessenothing 2 years ago 2
of course sid`s description of rattling is spot on cos he was a junkie so he obviously knows what he is talking about. I was talking about john`s saying heroin is the only drug that robs you of all creativity which is true r.i.p SID...
stevensmith288 2 years ago 4
Steve and Paul truly are a pair of sheep.
GuidoMista77 2 years ago
dude i relate this guy so much with darby crash from the germs (if u dont know who the germs are ur an idiot)
ripoutarmy 2 years ago 2
Darby was like the American version of Sid.
jessenothing 2 years ago 2
Sid was messed up, but there was no way he could have killed nancy, emotionaly or physicaly he wasnt capabile.
xSodaxPop9x 2 years ago 2
true
SamiraRana 2 years ago
He admitted to stabbing her, he said they were both hitting eachother although she started it.
Hobby1551 2 years ago 2
you guys know gg alin?
Oaschkeks 2 years ago
jaja true
ripoutarmy 2 years ago
nobody was so expressive and self destructive like SID VICIOUS in the rock history...yes, he repeated some rock stars self destruction but he was more self destructive..
fferefr 2 years ago
Not Sid obviously! The men you are attracted to you like to be treated bad by & yet you still come back for more. For starters you have already written to me 3 times in the last 24 hours & I havent been nice to you at all!!!! hahaha
kingofpunk1977 2 years ago
Ok Vicious might have been a victim but remember this, his life was going nowhere & was offered the chance to join the Pistols at 19. Instead of learning to play bass he acted like a rock cliche & was too jealous of Rotten. What I mean by bad treatment is this.. you come across as the sort of woman who gets off on being treated badly by a man & still you come back for more, perhaps u r on one of those "I can change him" type ego trips so stop latching onto Junkie losers like Sid. Thanks
kingofpunk1977 2 years ago
Glad I pissed you off. Ah no on second thoughts I have changed my mind . Maybe your the sort of bird that gets off on bad treatment? I tell you what ,look up on you tube an audio interview with Sid in 1977 with Judy Vermoel. Judy comes across nice & Vicious is just acting like a total bastard even makes Liam Gallager sound like a intellect. Now Lydon was a lot sharper & amongst the bite was humour but Sid was a loser.
kingofpunk1977 2 years ago
You silly bitch. I bet your the sort of woman that writes to psychos in prison. Go on Pete Doctery needs his bummed wiped. Its ALL ABOUT SELF PITY
kingofpunk1977 2 years ago
Hugs not Drugs.
hallebebe 2 years ago 2
aged 21 :(
Kids please keep your ass clean...
Sid R.I.P
thephaseshifter 2 years ago 5
it's good what you wrote phase shifter but at the end it's everybodys very own desision..
Bananaspliff27 2 years ago
Sid's demise may have been written on the wall........His mum was an addict..His upbringing was turbulence...........Nancy just made the inevitable happed...far too soon....
WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU SID
sexpistolsuevicious 2 years ago 2
if only he could have played that bass...
desconocidos27 2 years ago
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Fuckin hell, Sid was funny yes, he looked the part and was good at openin his mouth at the wrong time to piss people off but he did absolutely fuck all for the band, All he really did was try and copy John.
MOONST0MP 2 years ago
You are right. Dont know why you got flagged down for it. If Vicious had anything going for him he would be alive (probaly forged a career similar to Billy Idol or something)
kingofpunk1977 2 years ago
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I am thankful for the oxygen in the air that this retard isnt wasting. Is this your hero? Pleeeze...what a piece of shit
playahata1972 2 years ago
theres no way sid could have killed nancy, i mean he loved her so much, he is death because of that love! he was an amazing man!! fuck the heroin!!
QuiNn0225 2 years ago 4
Yeah, You probably would say fuck the Heroin, if you're a user or was a user in which you would be on Meth right now. But anyway Where in the Fuck that I said that Sid killed Nancy? I really think that It was a botched suicide, or big mistake. Never said that he killed her! READ!
miyasattic 2 years ago
well actually i didn't meant it for you, it was more like for the peolpe who read comments and that might think sid killed her, not meant for you specially!, sorry anyway
QuiNn0225 2 years ago
I don't know for sure but I believe he did. Hey he admitted he did himself. When you are on heroin you become a total different person and most of the time you don't know what the hell you're doing. Nancy was a very volatile person and they played with knives anyway. I can honestly see them getting into one of their crazy fights and he ended up stabbing her once while he was off his head on heroin. He really regretted if afterwards because they had a typical codependent junkie relationship.
Tigerlily21 2 years ago 2
Herion Had Him depressed, I don't think he even knew who he was anymore. And I really think that he started to hate himself for It. They say Nancy was the one who started him on that Shit. I guess Love Really does Kill. R.I.P. SID
You are still remembered!
miyasattic 2 years ago 2
rip sid <3<3<3
mysterynmayhem 2 years ago
RIP Sid Vicious! May 10 1957-February 2, 1979
shame he died he was an amazing man with a gorgeous body, amazing personality, and the voice of an angel. we seem to loose the best to drug overdose.
GaaraLover118592 2 years ago 4
Ok, all... Just let me say, I didn't expect this much feedback from this clip. This is awesome, and yet tragic. My son is named Sidney after this man. I loved Sid while he was alive. I love Sid even more after death. Sid and Kurt Cobain taught me very valuable lessons about hero worship. I loved both of them for what they did for the music world. I don't know what to say... I appreciate the feedback from you all...
radrobabq 2 years ago
What, exactly, did Sid Vicious do for the music world other than break up the Sex Pistols? He didn't play on either album, rarely was plugged in live. He was a victim of celebrity, not a musician and certainly not a Hero. You want to learn the true definition of the work hero google Lenny Skutnik or Wesley Autrey.
thegirl44 2 years ago
fuck your heroes , fuck you ! Who fucking needs heroes when you got yourself!
sky9no9longer9blue9 2 years ago
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I think it's pretty sick to romanticize someone who was nothing more than a self destructive junkie dressed up in edgy clothing. Kurt atleast did something for music but Sid didn't do anything. Didn't even play bass. He just trotted around on stage dressed up in Vivienne Westwood clothing and spitting and pogoing with the crowd.
Tigerlily21 2 years ago
@radrobabq You sound like someone I could really become good friends with.
jermhatesyouall 1 year ago
@radrobabq I'm planning on naming my kids Sidney and Nirvana. I love Kurt & Sid. They're...everything.
VacantSneerface 1 year ago
fuck you
sid had the punk attitude
you fuckin religiou cunt
livelifesledge 2 years ago 9
heroin is the worst drugs there is
niekolas 2 years ago 9
fuck heroin... too many great have been lost with that shit..
creepystranger007 2 years ago 12
good spech sid vicious, rip, god i wish you was still alive:)
Heavymetalpunker92x 2 years ago 8
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worst sound ever
redpaul79 2 years ago
well said john!
i love sid vicious<3
RIP
idigitbothways 2 years ago 11
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Undermine their pompous authority, reject their moral standards, make anarchy and disorder your trademarks. Cause as much chaos and disruption as possible but dont let them take you ALIVE-Sid Vicious RIP
sidlives84 2 years ago
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if the world forgets Sid one day,we should all kill ourselves....when we can't kill all those bastards....
beAloneonTheStreet 3 years ago
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poor Sidney, stupid fuckin' Nancy, Anne, Michelle and Steve...fuckin' horrible...
kool4ever 3 years ago
well spoken John
Poor Sid RIP
sidandmoi 3 years ago 27