I was a junior in high school just down the street. My brother was in Nam at the time and couldn't believe what was happening back home. Years later I got my degree from Kent State! Great school.
I know that it is a completely different situation altogether, but today's news out of Chardon, sadly, reminded me of this excellent song. My thoughts are with that community today...
I am so glad you got the music back for your excellent video. I pray everyday for young people to rise up the way they did back then. As I listen to Nikki Manage sing 'Stupid Ho' while our world crumbles, I don't hold out much hope, but you give me a glimmer of it! Keep your voice and don't stop!
I was only ten when this happened and it still bothers me.They could have dealt with it a different way.Those four young people shouldnt have died.I hope that this haunts the soldiers for the rest of there lives for what they did.My heart goes out to the families and the people who are still alive who went thru this.
@killerkirbydude how much more destruction do u.need too see whats going on you must live in a buble with due respect I don't drink or might I say I don't put myself in risk of poisoning I did 4 20 years but I'm awake now I'm an activist and like to help others in my community, in Mexico natives closed down coca cola cause it was draining the clean natural bio it is time to take back what s ours sorry thereisnativebloodrunninginmyesteam knowledge is free free yourself
REMEMBER THIS TUNE, IMAGES, LOSS OF 4 STUDENT LIVES & WHAT "ACTUALLY" OCCURED ON THE OHIO STATE CAMPUS WHEN YOU GO TO THE VOTING POLLS. I WOKE THIS AM TO THE INVASION OF THE GOP POLITICAL GOONS STUMBLING THROUGH NEW HAMPSHIRE. I HEARD ALL THEIR RHETORIC AND SPINNING BS SINCE LAST WEEK. WHEN POLITICIANS BEGIN TO REPRESENT "ALL" US CITIZENS WITH INTEGRITY, HONESTY & EQUITY, THEN MAYBE I'LL BEGIN TO LISTEN. UNTIL THEN, I PREFER SIMPLY TO "KEEP ON ROCKIN' IN THE FREE WORLD". NEIL YOUNG. ENJOY.
Just stop consuming their deam products they want to kill us any way they can with tainted food and sodas nicotine caffeine chaimtrails we need a real thing and develop tech our own they will never do shit 4 us do not vaccinate seach 4 natural answers brake the chains start ur own litle yard farming Stop consuming!! Talk 2 ur soldiers,millita fam. We need 2 stop the haarp
I was talking to some people just the other day and I brought up Kent State and nobody knew what I was talking about. I thought to myself how can this be ! I'm 57 the others were mid 30's
@MrsMeganGondeck I have no doubt that your knowledgeable and that you know about Kent State. But the fact remains, a very large portion of people don't know of Kent State. Just the other day in making conversation with some people (20-40 old) and they did not have a clue of what I was talking about. They would reply , your kidding, when did this happen or (this is my favorite) our government would'nt do that, would they.
@cooler52er Yeah it gets me when people think that the government cares about them. They care about us today as much as they cared for the four people who died in Ohio. Trust me, if they thought that they could get away with this in NY, Oakland, Atlanta and Boston during Occupy Wallstreet we would have hundreds if not thousands of Americans dead in the streets killed by our own military because hey they took an oath to execute the powers of the POTUS.
@cooler52er I'm 25 and I know about what happened at Kent Sate, and my brother goes to Kent State. He told me about how all the students get a brief lesson on what happened there (of course the story has been altered a bit ...to favor the cops), but the history is still alive. There will always be uninformed people of all ages on any subject.
Occupy America....it's the late 60's returning in answer to government greed, cronyism, and the continued loss of our freedoms slowly drifting away. We the people have to answer back. Stop this spiral of repression, taxation, spending. Congress is clearly not working together to make better business, and support families. We don't need them in every aspect of our lives. Why is Newt Gingrich even running? New ideas, new party,
"The troops were battle dressed." Yeah,the troops are battle-dressed more and more now days.And in some towns,well they're out there on our streets;and real soon,well they'll be on our front lawns.Yes,real soon,well the tear-gas and rubber bullets will be replaced with mustard and the full-metal-jacket.And at first,well we'll all just stand there and watch.And when our wives and our children start to fall in mass...well then,mabee what's left of us...well,we'll probably just fall,as well...Well?
And Oakland cops firing projectiles that almost killed an Irag vet? Davis, CA cops using military-grade pepper spray on peacefully resisting students sitting arm-in-arm on campus? The difference is, no simply rallying cry with a draft for Viet Nam. Our vets volunteered (including National Guard folks who never thought they'd end up halfway around the world rather than dealing with a Katrina)...folks are so disconnected.
Thank you for posting--great song, great montage, & a chilling message that still resonates today, 41 years later. I hope & pray we never have another Kent State incident in the land of the free and the home of the brave. With the the way things are going with the police/state response to Occupy, it may only be matter of time.
I'd have to say this song is quite swayed to one political side, it's clearly a protest to vietnam, which was not right, But the Kent State protests were hardly "non-violent" they burned down The NJROTC building, and set fire to many buildings in the city of kent, The guards were up for 2 days, and thought they heard shots and reacted, if anything it was an accident and sadly 4 lives were lost in the crossfire.
Looks like somethings never change. There was such a movement back then, but it faded when the war ended. They should have kept at it and taken over government legally. More wars were inevitable, but the peace movement isnt the same. I guess the fluoride and chemtrails are doing their jobs.
I have posted this to my Facebook page to warn people of what happens when lawful, peaceful and unarmed American's exercising their right to speak out and petition the government are met with misguided opposition from that same Government that is supposed to protect us and our rights. This is done in support of the Occupy Movement. Thank you so much for making this video.
@sugarfootmusic Awesome job Sugarfoot!!! I am also utilizing my music production and promotions company to support the Occupy Movement. I'm looking into planning a rally as well and have got my people working on speaking with Neil Young to see if he will headline the musical part of the rally.
Look up this news story; "Veterans in court to challenge federal disability benefit claw backs". The government and money men spitting on the men and women they sent to fight their war. Such gratitude for these people who put their lives on the line for the greedy and currupt.
@PapaWolfman who the fuck are "the money men"? That's the fifth time you've blanketed that term. Name them. Tell me exactly how "money men" have any vested interest in clawing back disability benefits, go for it.
@SmacksVideoMayhem LMFAO. OK, you first. Name the "filthy hippies". You may not understand who the money men are but anyone with any intelligence reading this does.
Educate yourself, do some research on disability benefits. You'll see exactly how the money men benefit from clawing back disability.
@SmacksVideoMayhem Oh I have plenty. As I said, any intelligent person reading my posts knows exactly who the money men are. But just for you I'll give you a hint. Banks, Oil men, politicians, Corporations..... Does that help or do you need me to define these entities as well?
Did you hear the good news? After the police did the bidding of the government and money men by trying to kick the protesters out, a judge ruled they had a legal right to protest. Isn't that wonderful.
@PapaWolfman You said "any intelligent person reading my posts knows exactly who the money men are..."
That statement is neither intelligent, nor an answer to the question posed. Its an appeal to anonymous authority. Fallacious argument tactic. Try again. Your follow up contain references to utter vagaries.
Like I said... Any INTELLIGENT person reading my posts knows who the money men are. So I wouldn't expect SmacksofStupidity or you to know. There's nothing anonymous about the money. They stood on a balcony sipping champaign and mocking the protesters. Nothing false there. It was right on TV.
@PapaWolfman The assertion that "any intelligent person knows" is known as "an appeal to anonymous authority", and it is taught as one of the critical debate tactics to avoid in high school debate class, for its total lack of logic, misguided assumption, and arrogance (on the part of the person making the assertion). To suggest that anybody who disagrees with you is either uninformed or stupid displays your own lack of intelligence.
@TheWarriorProject First of all, any intelligent person, isn't anonymous. I'm intelligent and I'm right here, no anonymity about me. There are several intelligent people who have posted to this video. Your assertion is sufficiently toast.
I haven't stated that anyone who disagrees with me is uninformed, or stupid at all. It's the uninformed, unintelligent, profanity laden posts he made that made him look stupid.
@PapaWolfman I used "VAGARY" off the cuff where I should have said "all manner of vague references." Happy?
You've been offered several opportunities to define "money men" Its a blanket term you throw around liberally, and you can not define it. When asked you insist people "go look it up" as if you haven't the time to trifle with it, yet you spend an enormous amount of time attempting to demonstrate how much smarter than everybody else you are...but you aren't. It shows.
Trifle? Is that another "off the cuff" faux pas? I trifled with him plenty. However, I grew weary of frittering away my time with his meaningless drivel.
@PapaWolfman you spout nothing but drivel, and argue in circles, without presenting any facts, evidence, and essentially, nothing except the ever droning assertion that you are smarter than everybody else, and anybody intelligent agrees with you. You are a moron of the highest order. Yes, I called you a moron. Because you are. Its not a barb, its truth. Fortunately for all of us, you are a tool on YouTube with no actual power or responsibility.
@TheWarriorProject You've just proven that you either didn't read any of my posts, or you did and have a problem reading english. I presented plenty of facts and evidence. Not to mention the fact that pretty much every one of my examples clearly support themselves factually. If you're either too lazy, or not intelligent enough to research them in order to come up with a valid rebuttal to them then that would explain your frustration with attempting to have an intelligent conversation.
"trifle" was slang, jackass. Nice try. You don't have the intellectual capacity for debate, and any half-wit or smarter than half-witted individual sees that. If you did, you would have. Instead, you insult those who disagree with you until they insult back, and then you claim some intellectual high ground. You are ridiculous.
@TheWarriorProject Trifle was slang??? LMFAO. So you use vagaries in an improper way, get busted for it and make up an excuse and say it was "off the cuff". Then you use trifle in an improper way and get busted for it and it's "slang".
OK, now I get it. You're SmacksofStupidity's inbred twin brother.
@PapaWolfman Yes, trifling is slang in the us. google it. I don't care what you think. You posted one link to an article I wasted my time reading and in the end you are nothing more than a smarmy asshole...and a waste of space and time. I could care less about Canada anyway. Your entire country is a socialist experiment gone wrong. As I said, I hope those soldiers have somebody with more intelligence than you fighting for them, or they are doomed. You are a ridiculous time-vampire.
@TheWarriorProject I don't need to google it. I own more than one dictionary and there are hundreds to use online as well. Maybe you should try googling one and learning what you're talking about.
A socialist experiment gone wrong? Our health care system is miles above the American one, our economy is in much better shape (which our dollar being worth more proves), childhood obesity rates in the U.S. are staggering... Do you want me to get into the eucation level in the U.S.? It's pretty sad.
@PapaWolfman Apparently you do. As a late-40s hippie white canadian, I am not surprised you have little exposure to urban or hip hop music....or facts on health care for that matter.
Oh, and wrong about your dollar too, genius. As of today, CAD is worth less than USD. That was a stupid point to bring up, LOL (oh, LOL is "internet slang" for "Laughing Out Loud", you can google that too).
My company is on top of currency rates daily, shame you went there. It isn't even fair. Buh-bye.
@TheWarriorProject Actually, being the owner of a music production company I'm exposed to all kinds of music on a daily basis dipshit (that's slang for dumbass, which is slang for moron or idiot LMAO). Are you a black urban youth from the ghetto? My guess is you're a wanna be wigger from some wealthy suburb who gets everything on a silver platter and bitches about it.
Let me know the name of your company so I can tell my friends what NOT to invest in. Check your currency rates again idiot.
@PapaWolfman look who resorted to vulgarities because his vocabulary isn't strong enough! Actually, I also own a music production company. My music production company has to tally international iTunes revenues every day, and convert currencies as a result, in order to pay my artists their royalties, so, I DID check my currency rates before posting, you stupid twat. By the way, when I call you a stupid twat, I pronounce "twat" with a short "a" because that makes it sound as ridiculous as you.
@TheWarriorProject Actually, I lowered myself to the vugaritie because it seems tha the native language of folk like yourself and SmacksofStupidity.
Hmm... Maybe you're using an American currency converter. We all know how great Americans are with math LMAO. I just transferred $100 from my Canadian dollar account to my American dollar account and when the transfer was done it equalled $103.10.
@PapaWolfman You didn't lower yourself, you need to climb to get to vulgarity, and you don't have a freaking clue what you're doing. We transferred Canadian Dollars IN to our American Accounts today FROM Canada, and it took 103 of YOURS to yield 100 of OURS. Because USD is worth more than CAD as of today. You are an idiot, that fact still remains. Fortunately, anybody can look up today's exchange rates to see how stupid you are.
Yep, went and checked two other resources as well, and as of RIGHT NOW, One American Dollar Buys 1.03 Canadian dollars. Let me explain it so that even a dipshit like you can understand. That means 100k American dollars would cost YOU (the dipshit Canadian) 103k.
@PapaWolfman Only in certain ways. I have an Aunt in Salisbury who would disagree. She is 84 and diagnosed with colon cancer. When her age, actuarial tables and what ever else they use, it was decided her treatment cost could not be justified to the state. Long story short, She came to t he states, had the surgery, convalesced with my family for three weeks,was cleared to return home, and now thumbs her nose at the doctors who told her to piss off and die. Good system as long as u don't get old.
@PapaWolfman I looked up your story. Is anything you say not complete nonsense? I run a Military-Charitable organization and am quite involved with these kinds of matters, and nowhere in the article you attempt to sidetrack the argument with are there any "money men" mentioned. Nor are there any "large banks" or shadowy evil figures with long teeth and trench coats waiting to steal your tin foil hat.
There was clearly a technical foul-up in Canada's system that's caused this problem. Next?
@TheWarriorProject Hmm.. You went to the same school as SmacksofStupidity didn't you. Do some research!! Find out who's taking the money away from disabled Canadian soldiers. I KNOW who they are because I put on an event this past summer in support of those exact same disabled soldiers to raise awareness for their cause. There's absulutely NOTHING technical about it!!! Like I said, do some research before opening your yap and proving what an idiot you are.
@PapaWolfman LOL, look how bent out of shape you get when revealed to be the obstinate child you behave as. "SmacksofStupidity?" "What an idiot you are?" You not only can't explain your nonsense, you become irate when asked to.
Oh, you're the pillar of mature, rational conversation you are. I read your article from top to bottom. Nothing you said was in it. You are ridiculous, and a waste of time. Hopefully those Canuck Vets have somebody smarter in their corner than you.
@TheWarriorProject Bent out of shape? Irate? How wrong you are. Just because I modified his name so that it was more suitable to his personality doesn't mean I'm bent out of shape or irate. It's my way of attempting to amuse myself in a rather boring, trivial situation. If I was bent out of shape or irate you'd most definitely know it.
You're own lack of intelligence is showing. Did you do even the tiniest of research into who influences the politicians to reduce such programs? Obviously not.
@SmacksVideoMayhem You can't remotely be serious in case you haven't look at the people attending the protests this time around but, there are doctors, nurses, teachers, hell even some police come partake on thier days off. There was a NYC council member as one of the protesters in Liberty Square raid this morning. You must be part of the 1% or, pardon the rudeness, just plain ignorant.
@TheWarriorProject I AM a hippy!! Brought into the culture by my favorite uncle, who attended Woodstock and other peace rallies. I'm 46 now and I'd rather be a filthy hippy than a corrupt, greedy, blind sheep following corrupt, greedy, murderous, war mongering politicians and money men.
What's ignorant is to spout a total crap falsehood such as the 99% being imaginary. Keep drinking the kool aid. Soon enough it'll kill you with it's greedy corrupt toxins.
@PapaWolfman if I had a nickel for every blanket disparaging term you liberal pawns spouted on the inter webs for the sole purpose of inciting emotional discomfort, jealousy and hatred for those who are smarter or more talented than yourselves, then I would be Bill Gates, minus the moronic impetus to throw money away into hell holes in some pathetic philanthropic attempt to make people like me. Factually, liberals are the lowest-donating charitable force on earth.
@SmacksVideoMayhem If I had a penny for every time some neocon mislabled me as a liberal I'd be the richest hippy in the world right now!! I'm a REALIST!
The world NEEDS emotional discomfort! It's what drives people to right wrongs. Politicians and money men are destroying our planet, our lives, our rights and freedoms.
Factually, anyone who adheres to one single political mindset, be it liberal or conservative, is blind to the reality of this world.
@PapaWolfman You are a fraud. You don't support the military as far as you can throw them. If you ARE a real hippy, then you were inducted by your favorite uncle, who protested being drafted into fighting a war he wanted no part of. Don't give me that bullshit about how now you hippies suddenly "care" about the military. Nobody's buying it.
If you don't want to be called names, then don't call me names like "neocon" or insinuate that I'm ignorant, when I am far more well read than you are.
@SmacksVideoMayhem I said "if I had a penny for everytime a neocon mislabled me I'd be rich". If you thought that infered that I called you a neocon that's your guilty conscience eating at you.
I can support the military without supporting a useless war. In the real world things aren't as black and white as you perceive them. Canada never had a draft, so my uncle never protested being drafted. He protested an unjust war.
I'm not insinuating you are ignorant. You are proving it with every post.
@PapaWolfman "If you thought that infered that I called you a neocon that's your guilty conscience eating at you."
No, that's fucking english, and that's what you did.
"I'm not insinuating you are ignorant. You are proving it with every post."
Says the guy who supports OWS retards defecating in the streets as "valid protest" and "free speech", says the guy with the tin foil hat crying on and on about the mysterious "money men!"
@SmacksVideoMayhem Now, if I were infering something about you I would have mentioned you in the comment. However, I didn't, so my comment regarding your conscience stands valid.
Do you have a problem reading? Twice now I have specifically stated I do not condone the public defication and urination.
My hat is actually not tin foil. It's polished aluminum, and was hand crafted by the finest conspiracy theorist outfitters in the world.
@PapaWolfman it is likely this hypocrisy that drives you to alleviate your twisted guilt by empowering a government to steal from the working class and wealthy in order to do what you are never willing to do. KOOL AID? I don't need koolaid, I have an endless supply of video of OWS protestors literally shitting in the streets and urinating on doorsteps, and if you think that represents more than the .05%, then you sir, are an idiot of the first order. Insert OWS Apology or Excuse here:_____.
@SmacksVideoMayhem Have you read a single word of my posts? Empower a government? WRONG!! DO AWAY with govenrement. Get off the money tit!! Revert to a resource based society that is directly governed by the people and not some elitist money men puppet.
While I don't condone deficating or urinating in pubic, the symbolism of what these people are doing is not lost on me. They are shitting and pissing on the people who have been shitting and pissing on them all their lives!!!
@PapaWolfman Well, THAT makes it ok, then doesn't it? A little shitty, pissy revenge? Two wrongs make a right principle? And "resource-based society?" Do explain that one, little bit of "each according to his needs" type thinking, eh?
You have a fundamentally warped understanding of the "problem". The "problem" isn't the "money men" you choose to target for your ire, nor is it government in the sense you speak. Doing away with Government is not the answer.
@SmacksVideoMayhem You seriously don't know how to have a rational debate do you? Once again you make claims about statements I never made. I clearly stated that I do NOT condone public defication and urination. Just because I appreciate the symbolism of the act doesn't mean I believe the act was right.
@PapaWolfman Oh but I do. "Appreciating the symbolism of" is a horseshit copout for "Yeah, I support them". Symbolism my fucking white ass. None of those retards in the OWS camp ever said "hey you know what would be REALLY symbolic?!" They said "hey where's the nearest place where I can't be easily seen because I'm too fucking lazy to go find a goddamn toilet like the rest of civilized society."
Spread your fraud and lies someplace else, not buying that crap.
@SmacksVideoMayhem It's NOT a cop out at all. By stating that I appreciate the symbolism I am showing my support.
How symbolic is it for the government and money men to bomb innocent people into oblivion and destroy their homes and lives? How symbolic is it for the government and money men to trample the rights of the less fortunate? How symbolic is it for politicians and money men to pay $1000 a plate to attend a government or business function while people die in their streets of starvation?
@PapaWolfman You are clearly the troll. Your arrogance and condescension are palpable, and the fact that you continue to smugly insist that the person you're arguing with is a "self-identified" idiot does not make it so, on the contrary, it makes you appear to be the very four-letter words you've been described as.
@PapaWolfman No, they don't. That he lost his temper means he lost his temper. That you are behaving in the exact childish manner as he, sans the four letter words, makes you no better. In fact, I believe he has more character if for no other reason than his lack of hypocrisy. You're barbs are poorly disguised, you're every bit as bad.
@TheWarriorProject See, you're exactly like him. Calling my barbs poorly disguised. I've said it several times to him and I'll say it to you. I haven't veiled, disguised, hidden, camoflouged, or in any way concealed my barbs. I've been very up front and clear about them.
The fact that he lost his temper because he was bested in a debate ONLINE (not shouting, just emphasizing) exposes his lack of intelligence. Your defending him, using the same methodology as he did, exposes yours.
@SmacksVideoMayhem Why do you ask me explain something that you already seem to have a very basic understanding of? However, a resource based society goes far beyond your simple explanation of "each according to his needs". Do some research, your eyes and mind might open just a tad.
You continually shot down my statements yet neglect to offer any intelligent alternative. It appears that you don't really know what you're talking about, but simply arguing for the sake of arguing?
@PapaWolfman you should read up on Article the First. The money isn't the problem, insofar as the amounts individuals or corporations can make. The problem is that because the House of Representatives has a capped membership, it does not take much from lobbyists to influence their vote. A return to the founder's original intention would create a House of Reps with more than six thousand members. Too many to sway for a brigade of lobbyists.
@SmacksVideoMayhem It's not the amount of money the money men make. It's the amount of money they use to buy politicians and others. Do you even know how the monetary system works? Are your eyes and mind totally closed to the amount of corruption in politics? You don't end political corruption by adding more politicians to the mix. That's like trying to dilute the poisonous effects of arsenic by adding cianide to it.
@SmacksVideoMayhem Thank hippies for keeping the politicians and money men from destroying your rights and freedoms. I have absolutely no ill will toward soldiers, however, they are NOT fighting for our rights and freedoms as the politicians and money men try to brainwash us into thinking. They are fighting for the politicians and the money men in order to secure their precious oil.
If it weren't for hippies standing up for your rights and freedoms they would have been gone long ago.
@PapaWolfman Then perhaps you'd care to pontificate on the topic of Obama's assisted murder of Quadaffi, which, according to your logic, was done exclusively for oil that the US won't benefit from. There is nothing more laughable than a hippie who thinks that only hippies stand up for "your rights". You people stand up for your own emotion traumas, imagined world views, and desire to have anything that offends you removed or criminalized. You're closet communists with tiny brains.
@SmacksVideoMayhem Funny how some people try to appear more intelligent by using big words like 'pontificate', thereby exposing their own pontification.
If you think the US won't benefit from the death of Muammar Gaddafi (Whom I assume you were referring to), your head is further in the sand than I thought.
Please copy and paste my statment that it is only hippies who stand up for our rights?
@PapaWolfman Not my flaws, twat, your whole "strategy". Your first response:
Funny how some people try to appear more intelligent by using big words like 'pontificate', thereby exposing their own pontification.
If you think the US won't benefit from the death of Muammar Gaddafi (Whom I assume you were referring to), your head is further in the sand than I thought.
Please copy and paste my statment that it is only hippies who stand up for our rights?
@PapaWolfman Your first sentence you call me a hypocrite and insinuate my stupidity for using "pontificate". Fuck yourself.
Sentence two you insinuate my head is in the sand, and offer no other evidence to support your point. Fuck yourself again.
Sentence three you try to send me on a goose chase to distract from the fact that you're a fucking fraud who pretends to be an "intellectual" when really you're a fucking weasel who can't argue logic or rationality. Fuck you, game over.
@SmacksVideoMayhem I didn't insinuate you're stupidity, I simply pointed it out. Thank you for proving my assumuption correct.
There was no need for me to offer evidence. Your own posts are evidence enough.
I didn't send you on a goose chase. You stated I said hippies were the only ones who stand up for our rights. I simply asked you to copy and paste what you said you saw me say.
I believe I'm being very rational and articulate. I'm not resorting to vulgar profanities and name calling am I?
@PapaWolfman "Thank hippies for keeping the politicians and money men from destroying your rights and freedoms" Copied, pasted.
Vulgarities? no. name-calling? Abso-fucking-lutely. You've veiled your insults since your first post, and when I get insulted by somebody who thinks I'm so fucking stupid they can turn around and suggest it wasn't an insult, then I get hot, and I let loose with the fuck-yous. thats you, Hippy, so certain of your own intellectual superiority you just can't hide it
@SmacksVideoMayhem OK, so now can you please point out where exactly in that comment that I stated it was ONLY hippies who stood up for our rights, as you stated I said?
I haven't veiled any of my insults. I've actually been quite clear about them. It's not a matter of me thinking you are stupid. It's a matter of you demonstrating it.
Why is it that I can continue in a rational non profane manner while you hurl vulgar profanites and insults at me but you can't seem to accomplish that feat?
@PapaWolfman You really are a stupid cunt if you think you can begin a slew of insults with your very first post and then continue to insult the person you're talking to.
"Why is it that I can continue in a rational non profane manner while you hurl vulgar profanites and insults at me but you can't seem to accomplish that feat?"
You can't. "Rational" does not mean "begin every comment by telling the other guy how stupid he is".
See previous commentary, twat-wrap. You're a stain.
@SmacksVideoMayhem Like I've said several times. There's no need for me to call you stupid. You demonstrate it with every one of your posts.
Your trolling ceases to amuse me. I have much more important things to do than educate someone who's mind is closed tighter than an old rusty bear trap.
You asshole hippies do that shit all the time, but never when a conversation is face-to-face, when you would have to deal with the repercussions of your snotty, smarmy fucking elitism and condescending arrogance. I have no problem using four-letter words aimed squarely at you and your ignorance. You earned it.
@SmacksVideoMayhem Actually, I've had very similar conversations face to face with plenty of people like you. By repercussions, are you referring to the physical violence that people like you so often resort to when they can't cope with rational, intelligent debate? If so, don't worry your little brain about it. I'm very capable of handling myself.
Now, arrogant, smarmy, elitism, do you mean the kind the money men displayed by sipping champaigne and mocking the protesters on their balconies?
@SmacksVideoMayhem "Desire to have anything that offends you removed or criminalized."? You mean exactly like a politician or money man? Protesters and activists are shut down daily by politicians and the money men to hide the truth.
Bands have their music banned in stores like Wal-Mart (owned by money men and supported by politicians) for telling the truth. Songs are banned from radio play by the same people for the same reasons.
Long live censorship, down with the truth... FUCK THAT!!!
@PapaWolfman If I have to suffer a waiting period and lawful registration of my firearm, then you and your OWS retards have to abide by the concept of a PERMIT TO PROTEST. Don't give me thatBS about getting shut down for an unlawful protest.
Bands have no "right" to sell in whatever store they want, the store has a right to carry it or not. How dare you presume to force somebody to sell something for you. The same goes for radio, nice try, drive through, please come again.
@SmacksVideoMayhem Firearms kill people, protests don't. Look up your constitution. EVERYONE has a right to free assembly and freedom of speech. Owning a firearm that can kill someone without a permit is illegal. Peaceful protesting is NOT illegal.
Again you attempt to attribute statements to me that I never made. Please copy and paste where I stated sotred and radio stations should be forced to sell or play a bands music.
@PapaWolfman No, firearms DON'T kill people, any more than knives, bricks, hand grenades or spoons. You really are an intellectual midget aren't you? I count three to five murders in OWS shantytowns across the country. Rethink your unthought statement.
"Peaceful" protesting is only legal when the protestors obtain a legal PERMIT to do so, the same as I must obtain a PERMIT to own a gun. Welcome to the regulation of rights, as its been since the inception of this country.
@SmacksVideoMayhem Excuse me?? OK now that's scary. Someone who doesn't have the intelligence to know that yes firearms, knives, bricks, grenades, and yes even spoons kill people owning a firearm. Thank you for proving that IQ tests should be part of firearm registration.
Can you direct me to any news story regarding these murders? I've researched it and found absolutely nothing.
Can you also copy the part of the consitituion that states free speech and freedom of assembly requires a permit.
@SmacksVideoMayhem ' Peaceful" protesting is only legal when the protestors obtain a legal PERMIT to do so, the same as I must obtain a PERMIT to own a gun."
The US Constitution requires neither. Read it again.
@mjh012363 The constitution leaves "all other" powers of regulation to the congress, determination to the SCOTUS, and undefined powers to the respective states, YOU read it again. You can't buy a gun without submitting to a three day wait, in any state, and you can not fight that because it is entirely constitutional. So is the requirement for a permit to assemble.
who knows when our last president had actual military experience?was Truman what 54 we got pussies runnin this show people,time for us "lowly buggers" to rise up.hey most of those in employ of govt including a loota cops were the unpopular in school a fact,I actually told a cop that I'd bet he was picked on in high scholl and got billy clubbed.I know this system well and am not afraid,"IT Is A Good Day To Die"!
@PapaWolfman Um.. NO! George Jr didn't falsefy anything. He was grounded most of his National Guard service due to the fact that he was a drunk. And no that doesn't count.
@mjh012363 I know LOL. I spelled it like that on purpose as an hommage to Quayle since we were discussing a witless president who makes up his own words on a regular basis. Hence the french fry comparison as well. LOL
I do not give a fuck if you nwo (israeli contracted to monitor our conversations0Hell of it is not many know of the hitler israelibritish connection!I do!We have been fed lies and BS!Fuck you nwo I fear you not want to know why?I am not afraid to die,I will do that before I serve you globalist bastards.You are so fucking sick in your inbred minds,hey people look at our last decades of "presidents"clinton was a total peice of shit,hey your the president set an example huh!
so im with the national gaurd on this one it is a tragedy that those kids had to die but they protester had burned buildings and looted stores, the gaurd was nervous and scared it was a tragic accident, no one wants to kill another human being unless your some sick person, but those people are not normal, normal people like the gaurd will have to carry that forever,not knowing if their bullet killed that kid, thats hard guilt to live with, it was a tragic accident, why dont people get that
@nate93510 -Shooting 4 people with a gun because you are "nervous and scared " is not an accident. What you are saying could be an excuse for anyone with a gun to shoot others in any such situation. Because some of the protestors had "burned buildings and looted stores" doesn't mean that those who died were going to harm those in the guard. Imagine what the families of those who were killed have lived with.
@urparanoia i agree but you about this thing in war all the time to the gaurd was most likely the same age as the protestors they were young, untrained, nervous, scared, once one fired it became a chain reaction with the gaurd fearing that they were being attacked so they all fired
@nate93510 -Tell that to the families who lost their loved ones. These people are supposed to be trained for such situations. They murdered for people and should have paid the price for doing so. I know what happened but unlike you I didn't make excuses for the murderers
Brasil, 7 de novembro de 2011. A polícia militar de forma brutal retira e prende 73 estudantes que ocupavam a reitoria da USP. Passados 40 anos e a repressão não tarda em chegar e descer o cacete.
He's standing next to someone in a Navy uniform with a flag that reads Veterans for Peace.org. Police start shooting projectiles into the crowd. Suddenly, Olsen is down. Protesters rush towards him where he is lying on the ground. But they scatter when a tear gas canister explodes on the ground next to Olsen. Eventually, protesters carried Olsen away and drove him to the hospital. source; Huffington Post
I was a junior in high school just down the street. My brother was in Nam at the time and couldn't believe what was happening back home. Years later I got my degree from Kent State! Great school.
Makumazahn77 1 week ago
I know that it is a completely different situation altogether, but today's news out of Chardon, sadly, reminded me of this excellent song. My thoughts are with that community today...
Meeper27 1 week ago
@Meeper27 SAME HERE!!!
jfike90 1 week ago
I am so glad you got the music back for your excellent video. I pray everyday for young people to rise up the way they did back then. As I listen to Nikki Manage sing 'Stupid Ho' while our world crumbles, I don't hold out much hope, but you give me a glimmer of it! Keep your voice and don't stop!
musicfogie 1 week ago
Well, we do have an opportunity coming straight at us - for PEACE in our time. . .two words: RON PAUL.
He's the only one who will bring our troops home.
susietwotoo 1 week ago
I was in boot camp at Lackland AFB San Antonio Texas when this happened.
regorkcorb 2 weeks ago
PEACE for real!
KangaCans 2 weeks ago
@420frannie- make that 22 dislikes.
dirtyweezel 2 weeks ago
21 dead in ohio
Tatersdabomb 2 weeks ago
I was only ten when this happened and it still bothers me.They could have dealt with it a different way.Those four young people shouldnt have died.I hope that this haunts the soldiers for the rest of there lives for what they did.My heart goes out to the families and the people who are still alive who went thru this.
momgoose51 3 weeks ago 3
@momgoose51 I was born about 20 years after it happened and it makes my blood boil. How did we let our government get so out of hand. Never again.
rolfalmao 3 weeks ago 5
@rolfalmao i agree who would have ever thought that one day our own military forces would turn on our own country. screwed up shit.
jfike90 1 week ago
@rolfalmao it is happening again Hr 347-google it then pass this video everywhere-heed the call
2patrock 1 week ago in playlist whutevahmovesme music
@momgoose51 Think about this, these young students were killed for advocating peace, Is that so bad?
123eagle1000 2 weeks ago
its been a long time since I heard this piece, Still has me now as it did when i first heard it, then again so does most of CSNY
707stretch 1 month ago
So strange to go to Kent and walk by the thing they're all standing around at 2:09... So horrible
MaxTheMusicalOne 1 month ago
21 dislikes, how can you dislike the truth???
420frannie 1 month ago 2
21 people dont know people who died, probally having no familly and dont interested in the war and people.
Namehtrolk 1 month ago
What 20 something idiots actually clicked the dislike button to this song? Really..
kirkstable 1 month ago
O! HISTORY REPEATS IT SELF
battcomp 1 month ago
That person is a guy, not a girl-not "her"
Walkman1OldSchool1 1 month ago
i wonder what those troops thought when the got home and read the paper it said protest in kent ohio 4 killed 12 shot
Megaplayer5 1 month ago
@killerkirbydude how much more destruction do u.need too see whats going on you must live in a buble with due respect I don't drink or might I say I don't put myself in risk of poisoning I did 4 20 years but I'm awake now I'm an activist and like to help others in my community, in Mexico natives closed down coca cola cause it was draining the clean natural bio it is time to take back what s ours sorry thereisnativebloodrunninginmyesteam knowledge is free free yourself
alkqnmuneka 1 month ago
@alkqnmuneka
Oh, my bad. You were high.
killerkirbydude 3 weeks ago
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REMEMBER THIS TUNE, IMAGES, LOSS OF 4 STUDENT LIVES & WHAT "ACTUALLY" OCCURED ON THE OHIO STATE CAMPUS WHEN YOU GO TO THE VOTING POLLS. I WOKE THIS AM TO THE INVASION OF THE GOP POLITICAL GOONS STUMBLING THROUGH NEW HAMPSHIRE. I HEARD ALL THEIR RHETORIC AND SPINNING BS SINCE LAST WEEK. WHEN POLITICIANS BEGIN TO REPRESENT "ALL" US CITIZENS WITH INTEGRITY, HONESTY & EQUITY, THEN MAYBE I'LL BEGIN TO LISTEN. UNTIL THEN, I PREFER SIMPLY TO "KEEP ON ROCKIN' IN THE FREE WORLD". NEIL YOUNG. ENJOY.
ScreemnEagle1 1 month ago
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ScreemnEagle1 1 month ago
it's been 6 years since CSN&Y all played a show together, I think it's time to once again add Y to CSN! go Neil go!
RDKF13 1 month ago
Just stop consuming their deam products they want to kill us any way they can with tainted food and sodas nicotine caffeine chaimtrails we need a real thing and develop tech our own they will never do shit 4 us do not vaccinate seach 4 natural answers brake the chains start ur own litle yard farming Stop consuming!! Talk 2 ur soldiers,millita fam. We need 2 stop the haarp
alkqnmuneka 2 months ago
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How drunk do you even have to be to WRITE this shit, I don't even.
killerkirbydude 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
Oh! Hell yest Remember this so well before I got my High School Senior Trip to The Republic of South Vietnam.
TheGatornation1 2 months ago
Its going on right now fight back!
DeathlyHurtt 2 months ago
the words are "Nixon's bombin'" not "Nixon's comin'"
TheDBALLYN 2 months ago
@TheDBALLYN Have you heard the song, cause I'm pretty sure it says "comin'"
death0619 1 month ago
@death0619 I've been listening to the song for 40 yrs or so - and the protest at KSU was over Nixon's bombing etc
TheDBALLYN 1 month ago
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Redstripe17 2 months ago
i was there-no excuses for out right slaughter
reywilliamr 2 months ago
@reywilliamr No you weren't.
empororofultra34 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
I was talking to some people just the other day and I brought up Kent State and nobody knew what I was talking about. I thought to myself how can this be ! I'm 57 the others were mid 30's
cooler52er 2 months ago
@cooler52er i'm 15, I know exactly what Kent State is
MrsMeganGondeck 2 months ago
@MrsMeganGondeck I have no doubt that your knowledgeable and that you know about Kent State. But the fact remains, a very large portion of people don't know of Kent State. Just the other day in making conversation with some people (20-40 old) and they did not have a clue of what I was talking about. They would reply , your kidding, when did this happen or (this is my favorite) our government would'nt do that, would they.
cooler52er 2 months ago
@cooler52er good point.
MrsMeganGondeck 2 months ago
@cooler52er Yeah it gets me when people think that the government cares about them. They care about us today as much as they cared for the four people who died in Ohio. Trust me, if they thought that they could get away with this in NY, Oakland, Atlanta and Boston during Occupy Wallstreet we would have hundreds if not thousands of Americans dead in the streets killed by our own military because hey they took an oath to execute the powers of the POTUS.
Ohioankev 1 week ago
@cooler52er I'm 25 and I know about what happened at Kent Sate, and my brother goes to Kent State. He told me about how all the students get a brief lesson on what happened there (of course the story has been altered a bit ...to favor the cops), but the history is still alive. There will always be uninformed people of all ages on any subject.
Deepstarr7020 1 month ago
Occupy America....it's the late 60's returning in answer to government greed, cronyism, and the continued loss of our freedoms slowly drifting away. We the people have to answer back. Stop this spiral of repression, taxation, spending. Congress is clearly not working together to make better business, and support families. We don't need them in every aspect of our lives. Why is Newt Gingrich even running? New ideas, new party,
enuad131 2 months ago 2
"The troops were battle dressed." Yeah,the troops are battle-dressed more and more now days.And in some towns,well they're out there on our streets;and real soon,well they'll be on our front lawns.Yes,real soon,well the tear-gas and rubber bullets will be replaced with mustard and the full-metal-jacket.And at first,well we'll all just stand there and watch.And when our wives and our children start to fall in mass...well then,mabee what's left of us...well,we'll probably just fall,as well...Well?
chuckolove 2 months ago 2
very nice ..only in ohio
Britainmorris 2 months ago
@Britainmorris - No Jackson State 10 days later...
bv19421 2 months ago
2 people just got shot at the Virginia Tech Campus.
AFVfanperson 3 months ago
@AFVfanperson Things never change, do they? So sad.
1EvilScooterKitty 2 months ago
Thank you for making this - great project. I imagine you earned an A+ for the whole semester!
swallowtailsland 3 months ago
With the government's crack down on the Occupy movement, I cannot help but think of this song.
tbuontempo 3 months ago
And Oakland cops firing projectiles that almost killed an Irag vet? Davis, CA cops using military-grade pepper spray on peacefully resisting students sitting arm-in-arm on campus? The difference is, no simply rallying cry with a draft for Viet Nam. Our vets volunteered (including National Guard folks who never thought they'd end up halfway around the world rather than dealing with a Katrina)...folks are so disconnected.
cldaustin 3 months ago
and the national guard is to protect civilians, what a load of crap RIP
MapleHurricane 3 months ago
Thank you for posting--great song, great montage, & a chilling message that still resonates today, 41 years later. I hope & pray we never have another Kent State incident in the land of the free and the home of the brave. With the the way things are going with the police/state response to Occupy, it may only be matter of time.
vpfan207 3 months ago
I'd have to say this song is quite swayed to one political side, it's clearly a protest to vietnam, which was not right, But the Kent State protests were hardly "non-violent" they burned down The NJROTC building, and set fire to many buildings in the city of kent, The guards were up for 2 days, and thought they heard shots and reacted, if anything it was an accident and sadly 4 lives were lost in the crossfire.
Sparklefuntime 3 months ago
and not one of the bastard guards was put into jail ..
pommesdreher 3 months ago
Looks like somethings never change. There was such a movement back then, but it faded when the war ended. They should have kept at it and taken over government legally. More wars were inevitable, but the peace movement isnt the same. I guess the fluoride and chemtrails are doing their jobs.
ironlion7800 3 months ago
Thanks for making this vid.
Name2site 3 months ago
Swag
MrTheChipster 3 months ago
rip, all 4 of them. Peace, for the rest of the world.
ArsCosmo 3 months ago
I have posted this to my Facebook page to warn people of what happens when lawful, peaceful and unarmed American's exercising their right to speak out and petition the government are met with misguided opposition from that same Government that is supposed to protect us and our rights. This is done in support of the Occupy Movement. Thank you so much for making this video.
sugarfootmusic 3 months ago
@sugarfootmusic Awesome job Sugarfoot!!! I am also utilizing my music production and promotions company to support the Occupy Movement. I'm looking into planning a rally as well and have got my people working on speaking with Neil Young to see if he will headline the musical part of the rally.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
Look up this news story; "Veterans in court to challenge federal disability benefit claw backs". The government and money men spitting on the men and women they sent to fight their war. Such gratitude for these people who put their lives on the line for the greedy and currupt.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman who the fuck are "the money men"? That's the fifth time you've blanketed that term. Name them. Tell me exactly how "money men" have any vested interest in clawing back disability benefits, go for it.
I can't wait to hear this.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem LMFAO. OK, you first. Name the "filthy hippies". You may not understand who the money men are but anyone with any intelligence reading this does.
Educate yourself, do some research on disability benefits. You'll see exactly how the money men benefit from clawing back disability.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman Exactly. You have nothing. I ask you to explain yourself and you whine "No, YOU go first!!" You are ridiculous.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem Oh I have plenty. As I said, any intelligent person reading my posts knows exactly who the money men are. But just for you I'll give you a hint. Banks, Oil men, politicians, Corporations..... Does that help or do you need me to define these entities as well?
Did you hear the good news? After the police did the bidding of the government and money men by trying to kick the protesters out, a judge ruled they had a legal right to protest. Isn't that wonderful.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman You said "any intelligent person reading my posts knows exactly who the money men are..."
That statement is neither intelligent, nor an answer to the question posed. Its an appeal to anonymous authority. Fallacious argument tactic. Try again. Your follow up contain references to utter vagaries.
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@TheWarriorProject Do you even know what vagary means? If you're going to try to defend an idiot you don't do it by proving you're an idiot as well.
Anonymous authority?? Fallacious arguement tactic??
Like I said... Any INTELLIGENT person reading my posts knows who the money men are. So I wouldn't expect SmacksofStupidity or you to know. There's nothing anonymous about the money. They stood on a balcony sipping champaign and mocking the protesters. Nothing false there. It was right on TV.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman The assertion that "any intelligent person knows" is known as "an appeal to anonymous authority", and it is taught as one of the critical debate tactics to avoid in high school debate class, for its total lack of logic, misguided assumption, and arrogance (on the part of the person making the assertion). To suggest that anybody who disagrees with you is either uninformed or stupid displays your own lack of intelligence.
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@TheWarriorProject First of all, any intelligent person, isn't anonymous. I'm intelligent and I'm right here, no anonymity about me. There are several intelligent people who have posted to this video. Your assertion is sufficiently toast.
I haven't stated that anyone who disagrees with me is uninformed, or stupid at all. It's the uninformed, unintelligent, profanity laden posts he made that made him look stupid.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman I used "VAGARY" off the cuff where I should have said "all manner of vague references." Happy?
You've been offered several opportunities to define "money men" Its a blanket term you throw around liberally, and you can not define it. When asked you insist people "go look it up" as if you haven't the time to trifle with it, yet you spend an enormous amount of time attempting to demonstrate how much smarter than everybody else you are...but you aren't. It shows.
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@TheWarriorProject Ahhhhh... Off the cuff... cough*bullshit*cough.
I'm always happy.
Trifle? Is that another "off the cuff" faux pas? I trifled with him plenty. However, I grew weary of frittering away my time with his meaningless drivel.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman you spout nothing but drivel, and argue in circles, without presenting any facts, evidence, and essentially, nothing except the ever droning assertion that you are smarter than everybody else, and anybody intelligent agrees with you. You are a moron of the highest order. Yes, I called you a moron. Because you are. Its not a barb, its truth. Fortunately for all of us, you are a tool on YouTube with no actual power or responsibility.
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@TheWarriorProject You've just proven that you either didn't read any of my posts, or you did and have a problem reading english. I presented plenty of facts and evidence. Not to mention the fact that pretty much every one of my examples clearly support themselves factually. If you're either too lazy, or not intelligent enough to research them in order to come up with a valid rebuttal to them then that would explain your frustration with attempting to have an intelligent conversation.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
"trifle" was slang, jackass. Nice try. You don't have the intellectual capacity for debate, and any half-wit or smarter than half-witted individual sees that. If you did, you would have. Instead, you insult those who disagree with you until they insult back, and then you claim some intellectual high ground. You are ridiculous.
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@TheWarriorProject Trifle was slang??? LMFAO. So you use vagaries in an improper way, get busted for it and make up an excuse and say it was "off the cuff". Then you use trifle in an improper way and get busted for it and it's "slang".
OK, now I get it. You're SmacksofStupidity's inbred twin brother.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman Yes, trifling is slang in the us. google it. I don't care what you think. You posted one link to an article I wasted my time reading and in the end you are nothing more than a smarmy asshole...and a waste of space and time. I could care less about Canada anyway. Your entire country is a socialist experiment gone wrong. As I said, I hope those soldiers have somebody with more intelligence than you fighting for them, or they are doomed. You are a ridiculous time-vampire.
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@TheWarriorProject I don't need to google it. I own more than one dictionary and there are hundreds to use online as well. Maybe you should try googling one and learning what you're talking about.
A socialist experiment gone wrong? Our health care system is miles above the American one, our economy is in much better shape (which our dollar being worth more proves), childhood obesity rates in the U.S. are staggering... Do you want me to get into the eucation level in the U.S.? It's pretty sad.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman Apparently you do. As a late-40s hippie white canadian, I am not surprised you have little exposure to urban or hip hop music....or facts on health care for that matter.
Oh, and wrong about your dollar too, genius. As of today, CAD is worth less than USD. That was a stupid point to bring up, LOL (oh, LOL is "internet slang" for "Laughing Out Loud", you can google that too).
My company is on top of currency rates daily, shame you went there. It isn't even fair. Buh-bye.
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@TheWarriorProject Actually, being the owner of a music production company I'm exposed to all kinds of music on a daily basis dipshit (that's slang for dumbass, which is slang for moron or idiot LMAO). Are you a black urban youth from the ghetto? My guess is you're a wanna be wigger from some wealthy suburb who gets everything on a silver platter and bitches about it.
Let me know the name of your company so I can tell my friends what NOT to invest in. Check your currency rates again idiot.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman look who resorted to vulgarities because his vocabulary isn't strong enough! Actually, I also own a music production company. My music production company has to tally international iTunes revenues every day, and convert currencies as a result, in order to pay my artists their royalties, so, I DID check my currency rates before posting, you stupid twat. By the way, when I call you a stupid twat, I pronounce "twat" with a short "a" because that makes it sound as ridiculous as you.
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@TheWarriorProject Actually, I lowered myself to the vugaritie because it seems tha the native language of folk like yourself and SmacksofStupidity.
Hmm... Maybe you're using an American currency converter. We all know how great Americans are with math LMAO. I just transferred $100 from my Canadian dollar account to my American dollar account and when the transfer was done it equalled $103.10.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman You didn't lower yourself, you need to climb to get to vulgarity, and you don't have a freaking clue what you're doing. We transferred Canadian Dollars IN to our American Accounts today FROM Canada, and it took 103 of YOURS to yield 100 of OURS. Because USD is worth more than CAD as of today. You are an idiot, that fact still remains. Fortunately, anybody can look up today's exchange rates to see how stupid you are.
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
Yep, went and checked two other resources as well, and as of RIGHT NOW, One American Dollar Buys 1.03 Canadian dollars. Let me explain it so that even a dipshit like you can understand. That means 100k American dollars would cost YOU (the dipshit Canadian) 103k.
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman Only in certain ways. I have an Aunt in Salisbury who would disagree. She is 84 and diagnosed with colon cancer. When her age, actuarial tables and what ever else they use, it was decided her treatment cost could not be justified to the state. Long story short, She came to t he states, had the surgery, convalesced with my family for three weeks,was cleared to return home, and now thumbs her nose at the doctors who told her to piss off and die. Good system as long as u don't get old.
GunBroker100 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman I looked up your story. Is anything you say not complete nonsense? I run a Military-Charitable organization and am quite involved with these kinds of matters, and nowhere in the article you attempt to sidetrack the argument with are there any "money men" mentioned. Nor are there any "large banks" or shadowy evil figures with long teeth and trench coats waiting to steal your tin foil hat.
There was clearly a technical foul-up in Canada's system that's caused this problem. Next?
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@TheWarriorProject Hmm.. You went to the same school as SmacksofStupidity didn't you. Do some research!! Find out who's taking the money away from disabled Canadian soldiers. I KNOW who they are because I put on an event this past summer in support of those exact same disabled soldiers to raise awareness for their cause. There's absulutely NOTHING technical about it!!! Like I said, do some research before opening your yap and proving what an idiot you are.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman LOL, look how bent out of shape you get when revealed to be the obstinate child you behave as. "SmacksofStupidity?" "What an idiot you are?" You not only can't explain your nonsense, you become irate when asked to.
Oh, you're the pillar of mature, rational conversation you are. I read your article from top to bottom. Nothing you said was in it. You are ridiculous, and a waste of time. Hopefully those Canuck Vets have somebody smarter in their corner than you.
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@TheWarriorProject Bent out of shape? Irate? How wrong you are. Just because I modified his name so that it was more suitable to his personality doesn't mean I'm bent out of shape or irate. It's my way of attempting to amuse myself in a rather boring, trivial situation. If I was bent out of shape or irate you'd most definitely know it.
You're own lack of intelligence is showing. Did you do even the tiniest of research into who influences the politicians to reduce such programs? Obviously not.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
Thank God for the National Guard. preventing filthy Hippies from rioting for over 100 years....
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem You can't remotely be serious in case you haven't look at the people attending the protests this time around but, there are doctors, nurses, teachers, hell even some police come partake on thier days off. There was a NYC council member as one of the protesters in Liberty Square raid this morning. You must be part of the 1% or, pardon the rudeness, just plain ignorant.
morrisjeffery92 3 months ago
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TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@TheWarriorProject I AM a hippy!! Brought into the culture by my favorite uncle, who attended Woodstock and other peace rallies. I'm 46 now and I'd rather be a filthy hippy than a corrupt, greedy, blind sheep following corrupt, greedy, murderous, war mongering politicians and money men.
What's ignorant is to spout a total crap falsehood such as the 99% being imaginary. Keep drinking the kool aid. Soon enough it'll kill you with it's greedy corrupt toxins.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman if I had a nickel for every blanket disparaging term you liberal pawns spouted on the inter webs for the sole purpose of inciting emotional discomfort, jealousy and hatred for those who are smarter or more talented than yourselves, then I would be Bill Gates, minus the moronic impetus to throw money away into hell holes in some pathetic philanthropic attempt to make people like me. Factually, liberals are the lowest-donating charitable force on earth.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem If I had a penny for every time some neocon mislabled me as a liberal I'd be the richest hippy in the world right now!! I'm a REALIST!
The world NEEDS emotional discomfort! It's what drives people to right wrongs. Politicians and money men are destroying our planet, our lives, our rights and freedoms.
Factually, anyone who adheres to one single political mindset, be it liberal or conservative, is blind to the reality of this world.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem and if I had a penny for every time some fucking arrogant cunt liberal called me a NeoCon, LOL....
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem Ahhhhh NOW the true you shines clear. Resorting to vulgar profanities and name calling when faced with the truth.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman You are a fraud. You don't support the military as far as you can throw them. If you ARE a real hippy, then you were inducted by your favorite uncle, who protested being drafted into fighting a war he wanted no part of. Don't give me that bullshit about how now you hippies suddenly "care" about the military. Nobody's buying it.
If you don't want to be called names, then don't call me names like "neocon" or insinuate that I'm ignorant, when I am far more well read than you are.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem I said "if I had a penny for everytime a neocon mislabled me I'd be rich". If you thought that infered that I called you a neocon that's your guilty conscience eating at you.
I can support the military without supporting a useless war. In the real world things aren't as black and white as you perceive them. Canada never had a draft, so my uncle never protested being drafted. He protested an unjust war.
I'm not insinuating you are ignorant. You are proving it with every post.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman "If you thought that infered that I called you a neocon that's your guilty conscience eating at you."
No, that's fucking english, and that's what you did.
"I'm not insinuating you are ignorant. You are proving it with every post."
Says the guy who supports OWS retards defecating in the streets as "valid protest" and "free speech", says the guy with the tin foil hat crying on and on about the mysterious "money men!"
Have a nice day, hippy.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem Now, if I were infering something about you I would have mentioned you in the comment. However, I didn't, so my comment regarding your conscience stands valid.
Do you have a problem reading? Twice now I have specifically stated I do not condone the public defication and urination.
My hat is actually not tin foil. It's polished aluminum, and was hand crafted by the finest conspiracy theorist outfitters in the world.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman it is likely this hypocrisy that drives you to alleviate your twisted guilt by empowering a government to steal from the working class and wealthy in order to do what you are never willing to do. KOOL AID? I don't need koolaid, I have an endless supply of video of OWS protestors literally shitting in the streets and urinating on doorsteps, and if you think that represents more than the .05%, then you sir, are an idiot of the first order. Insert OWS Apology or Excuse here:_____.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem Have you read a single word of my posts? Empower a government? WRONG!! DO AWAY with govenrement. Get off the money tit!! Revert to a resource based society that is directly governed by the people and not some elitist money men puppet.
While I don't condone deficating or urinating in pubic, the symbolism of what these people are doing is not lost on me. They are shitting and pissing on the people who have been shitting and pissing on them all their lives!!!
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman Well, THAT makes it ok, then doesn't it? A little shitty, pissy revenge? Two wrongs make a right principle? And "resource-based society?" Do explain that one, little bit of "each according to his needs" type thinking, eh?
You have a fundamentally warped understanding of the "problem". The "problem" isn't the "money men" you choose to target for your ire, nor is it government in the sense you speak. Doing away with Government is not the answer.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem You seriously don't know how to have a rational debate do you? Once again you make claims about statements I never made. I clearly stated that I do NOT condone public defication and urination. Just because I appreciate the symbolism of the act doesn't mean I believe the act was right.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman Oh but I do. "Appreciating the symbolism of" is a horseshit copout for "Yeah, I support them". Symbolism my fucking white ass. None of those retards in the OWS camp ever said "hey you know what would be REALLY symbolic?!" They said "hey where's the nearest place where I can't be easily seen because I'm too fucking lazy to go find a goddamn toilet like the rest of civilized society."
Spread your fraud and lies someplace else, not buying that crap.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem It's NOT a cop out at all. By stating that I appreciate the symbolism I am showing my support.
How symbolic is it for the government and money men to bomb innocent people into oblivion and destroy their homes and lives? How symbolic is it for the government and money men to trample the rights of the less fortunate? How symbolic is it for politicians and money men to pay $1000 a plate to attend a government or business function while people die in their streets of starvation?
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman You are clearly the troll. Your arrogance and condescension are palpable, and the fact that you continue to smugly insist that the person you're arguing with is a "self-identified" idiot does not make it so, on the contrary, it makes you appear to be the very four-letter words you've been described as.
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@TheWarriorProject No, you're absolutely correct. My insistence doesn't make it so. His posts do.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman No, they don't. That he lost his temper means he lost his temper. That you are behaving in the exact childish manner as he, sans the four letter words, makes you no better. In fact, I believe he has more character if for no other reason than his lack of hypocrisy. You're barbs are poorly disguised, you're every bit as bad.
TheWarriorProject 3 months ago
@TheWarriorProject See, you're exactly like him. Calling my barbs poorly disguised. I've said it several times to him and I'll say it to you. I haven't veiled, disguised, hidden, camoflouged, or in any way concealed my barbs. I've been very up front and clear about them.
The fact that he lost his temper because he was bested in a debate ONLINE (not shouting, just emphasizing) exposes his lack of intelligence. Your defending him, using the same methodology as he did, exposes yours.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem Why do you ask me explain something that you already seem to have a very basic understanding of? However, a resource based society goes far beyond your simple explanation of "each according to his needs". Do some research, your eyes and mind might open just a tad.
You continually shot down my statements yet neglect to offer any intelligent alternative. It appears that you don't really know what you're talking about, but simply arguing for the sake of arguing?
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman you should read up on Article the First. The money isn't the problem, insofar as the amounts individuals or corporations can make. The problem is that because the House of Representatives has a capped membership, it does not take much from lobbyists to influence their vote. A return to the founder's original intention would create a House of Reps with more than six thousand members. Too many to sway for a brigade of lobbyists.
Good luck buying off a vote from that bunch.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem It's not the amount of money the money men make. It's the amount of money they use to buy politicians and others. Do you even know how the monetary system works? Are your eyes and mind totally closed to the amount of corruption in politics? You don't end political corruption by adding more politicians to the mix. That's like trying to dilute the poisonous effects of arsenic by adding cianide to it.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem Thank hippies for keeping the politicians and money men from destroying your rights and freedoms. I have absolutely no ill will toward soldiers, however, they are NOT fighting for our rights and freedoms as the politicians and money men try to brainwash us into thinking. They are fighting for the politicians and the money men in order to secure their precious oil.
If it weren't for hippies standing up for your rights and freedoms they would have been gone long ago.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman Then perhaps you'd care to pontificate on the topic of Obama's assisted murder of Quadaffi, which, according to your logic, was done exclusively for oil that the US won't benefit from. There is nothing more laughable than a hippie who thinks that only hippies stand up for "your rights". You people stand up for your own emotion traumas, imagined world views, and desire to have anything that offends you removed or criminalized. You're closet communists with tiny brains.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem Funny how some people try to appear more intelligent by using big words like 'pontificate', thereby exposing their own pontification.
If you think the US won't benefit from the death of Muammar Gaddafi (Whom I assume you were referring to), your head is further in the sand than I thought.
Please copy and paste my statment that it is only hippies who stand up for our rights?
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman funny how some people dodge the entire question and lob barely-veiled insults in place of evidence, facts, or rational opinion.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem Thank you for admitting your flaws.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman Not my flaws, twat, your whole "strategy". Your first response:
Funny how some people try to appear more intelligent by using big words like 'pontificate', thereby exposing their own pontification.
If you think the US won't benefit from the death of Muammar Gaddafi (Whom I assume you were referring to), your head is further in the sand than I thought.
Please copy and paste my statment that it is only hippies who stand up for our rights?
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman Your first sentence you call me a hypocrite and insinuate my stupidity for using "pontificate". Fuck yourself.
Sentence two you insinuate my head is in the sand, and offer no other evidence to support your point. Fuck yourself again.
Sentence three you try to send me on a goose chase to distract from the fact that you're a fucking fraud who pretends to be an "intellectual" when really you're a fucking weasel who can't argue logic or rationality. Fuck you, game over.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem I didn't insinuate you're stupidity, I simply pointed it out. Thank you for proving my assumuption correct.
There was no need for me to offer evidence. Your own posts are evidence enough.
I didn't send you on a goose chase. You stated I said hippies were the only ones who stand up for our rights. I simply asked you to copy and paste what you said you saw me say.
I believe I'm being very rational and articulate. I'm not resorting to vulgar profanities and name calling am I?
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman "Thank hippies for keeping the politicians and money men from destroying your rights and freedoms" Copied, pasted.
Vulgarities? no. name-calling? Abso-fucking-lutely. You've veiled your insults since your first post, and when I get insulted by somebody who thinks I'm so fucking stupid they can turn around and suggest it wasn't an insult, then I get hot, and I let loose with the fuck-yous. thats you, Hippy, so certain of your own intellectual superiority you just can't hide it
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem OK, so now can you please point out where exactly in that comment that I stated it was ONLY hippies who stood up for our rights, as you stated I said?
I haven't veiled any of my insults. I've actually been quite clear about them. It's not a matter of me thinking you are stupid. It's a matter of you demonstrating it.
Why is it that I can continue in a rational non profane manner while you hurl vulgar profanites and insults at me but you can't seem to accomplish that feat?
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman You really are a stupid cunt if you think you can begin a slew of insults with your very first post and then continue to insult the person you're talking to.
"Why is it that I can continue in a rational non profane manner while you hurl vulgar profanites and insults at me but you can't seem to accomplish that feat?"
You can't. "Rational" does not mean "begin every comment by telling the other guy how stupid he is".
See previous commentary, twat-wrap. You're a stain.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem Like I've said several times. There's no need for me to call you stupid. You demonstrate it with every one of your posts.
Your trolling ceases to amuse me. I have much more important things to do than educate someone who's mind is closed tighter than an old rusty bear trap.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
You asshole hippies do that shit all the time, but never when a conversation is face-to-face, when you would have to deal with the repercussions of your snotty, smarmy fucking elitism and condescending arrogance. I have no problem using four-letter words aimed squarely at you and your ignorance. You earned it.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem Actually, I've had very similar conversations face to face with plenty of people like you. By repercussions, are you referring to the physical violence that people like you so often resort to when they can't cope with rational, intelligent debate? If so, don't worry your little brain about it. I'm very capable of handling myself.
Now, arrogant, smarmy, elitism, do you mean the kind the money men displayed by sipping champaigne and mocking the protesters on their balconies?
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem "Desire to have anything that offends you removed or criminalized."? You mean exactly like a politician or money man? Protesters and activists are shut down daily by politicians and the money men to hide the truth.
Bands have their music banned in stores like Wal-Mart (owned by money men and supported by politicians) for telling the truth. Songs are banned from radio play by the same people for the same reasons.
Long live censorship, down with the truth... FUCK THAT!!!
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman If I have to suffer a waiting period and lawful registration of my firearm, then you and your OWS retards have to abide by the concept of a PERMIT TO PROTEST. Don't give me thatBS about getting shut down for an unlawful protest.
Bands have no "right" to sell in whatever store they want, the store has a right to carry it or not. How dare you presume to force somebody to sell something for you. The same goes for radio, nice try, drive through, please come again.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem Firearms kill people, protests don't. Look up your constitution. EVERYONE has a right to free assembly and freedom of speech. Owning a firearm that can kill someone without a permit is illegal. Peaceful protesting is NOT illegal.
Again you attempt to attribute statements to me that I never made. Please copy and paste where I stated sotred and radio stations should be forced to sell or play a bands music.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman No, firearms DON'T kill people, any more than knives, bricks, hand grenades or spoons. You really are an intellectual midget aren't you? I count three to five murders in OWS shantytowns across the country. Rethink your unthought statement.
"Peaceful" protesting is only legal when the protestors obtain a legal PERMIT to do so, the same as I must obtain a PERMIT to own a gun. Welcome to the regulation of rights, as its been since the inception of this country.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem Excuse me?? OK now that's scary. Someone who doesn't have the intelligence to know that yes firearms, knives, bricks, grenades, and yes even spoons kill people owning a firearm. Thank you for proving that IQ tests should be part of firearm registration.
Can you direct me to any news story regarding these murders? I've researched it and found absolutely nothing.
Can you also copy the part of the consitituion that states free speech and freedom of assembly requires a permit.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@SmacksVideoMayhem ' Peaceful" protesting is only legal when the protestors obtain a legal PERMIT to do so, the same as I must obtain a PERMIT to own a gun."
The US Constitution requires neither. Read it again.
mjh012363 3 months ago
@mjh012363 The constitution leaves "all other" powers of regulation to the congress, determination to the SCOTUS, and undefined powers to the respective states, YOU read it again. You can't buy a gun without submitting to a three day wait, in any state, and you can not fight that because it is entirely constitutional. So is the requirement for a permit to assemble.
SmacksVideoMayhem 3 months ago
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@SmacksVideoMayhem "The constitution leaves "all other" powers of regulation to the congress"
So Congress can regulate free speech? Religion?
"You can't buy a gun without submitting to a three day wait, in any state, and you can not fight that because it is entirely constitutional."
No jsut because SCOTUS says it's constitutional doesn't make it so.
mjh012363 3 months ago
who knows when our last president had actual military experience?was Truman what 54 we got pussies runnin this show people,time for us "lowly buggers" to rise up.hey most of those in employ of govt including a loota cops were the unpopular in school a fact,I actually told a cop that I'd bet he was picked on in high scholl and got billy clubbed.I know this system well and am not afraid,"IT Is A Good Day To Die"!
Ancientmirrors1 3 months ago
@Ancientmirrors1 "who knows when our last president had actual military experience?"
George Herbert Walker Bush. (BTW that would be the Senior Bush.)
mjh012363 3 months ago
@mjh012363 Hey now... George Jr had military experience. He was very experienced in falsifying his military records. Or doesn;\'t that count?
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman Um.. NO! George Jr didn't falsefy anything. He was grounded most of his National Guard service due to the fact that he was a drunk. And no that doesn't count.
mjh012363 3 months ago
@mjh012363 I classify his touting his vast military experience after being gorunded for being a drunk as falsification ;-)
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman I believe records =/= personal accounts.
mjh012363 3 months ago
@mjh012363 tomato tomato, potatoe french fries. LOL
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
@PapaWolfman BTW it's "potato." That's all right even Vice Presidents get that wrong.
mjh012363 3 months ago
@mjh012363 I know LOL. I spelled it like that on purpose as an hommage to Quayle since we were discussing a witless president who makes up his own words on a regular basis. Hence the french fry comparison as well. LOL
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
I do not give a fuck if you nwo (israeli contracted to monitor our conversations0Hell of it is not many know of the hitler israelibritish connection!I do!We have been fed lies and BS!Fuck you nwo I fear you not want to know why?I am not afraid to die,I will do that before I serve you globalist bastards.You are so fucking sick in your inbred minds,hey people look at our last decades of "presidents"clinton was a total peice of shit,hey your the president set an example huh!
Ancientmirrors1 3 months ago
so im with the national gaurd on this one it is a tragedy that those kids had to die but they protester had burned buildings and looted stores, the gaurd was nervous and scared it was a tragic accident, no one wants to kill another human being unless your some sick person, but those people are not normal, normal people like the gaurd will have to carry that forever,not knowing if their bullet killed that kid, thats hard guilt to live with, it was a tragic accident, why dont people get that
nate93510 3 months ago
@nate93510 -Shooting 4 people with a gun because you are "nervous and scared " is not an accident. What you are saying could be an excuse for anyone with a gun to shoot others in any such situation. Because some of the protestors had "burned buildings and looted stores" doesn't mean that those who died were going to harm those in the guard. Imagine what the families of those who were killed have lived with.
urparanoia 3 months ago
@urparanoia i agree but you about this thing in war all the time to the gaurd was most likely the same age as the protestors they were young, untrained, nervous, scared, once one fired it became a chain reaction with the gaurd fearing that they were being attacked so they all fired
nate93510 3 months ago
@nate93510 -Tell that to the families who lost their loved ones. These people are supposed to be trained for such situations. They murdered for people and should have paid the price for doing so. I know what happened but unlike you I didn't make excuses for the murderers
urparanoia 3 months ago
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letto26 3 months ago in playlist mitici 70
Brasil, 7 de novembro de 2011. A polícia militar de forma brutal retira e prende 73 estudantes que ocupavam a reitoria da USP. Passados 40 anos e a repressão não tarda em chegar e descer o cacete.
ricard1510 4 months ago
HWO MANY MORE?
MsFalcita 4 months ago
One of the signs I just made for our Occupy Charlotte protest is "Remember Kent State". This atrocity cannot be forgotten.
boom3rang 4 months ago 15
@boom3rang Neither can the deaths and injuries acted upon the firefighters and police that day, by the "Peaceful" protestors (((-:
merchmarine97 3 months ago
@boom3rang UC-Davis obviously forgot!
TheMagreene 3 months ago
@TheMagreene They certainly did! And so did UC Berkely.
PapaWolfman 3 months ago
I've lived long enough to see that this is deja vu all over again, will we ever learn?
tedlpearson 4 months ago
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@tedlpearson yes we will, then we will learn it again... and again...
Sneak693 4 months ago
oakland
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He's standing next to someone in a Navy uniform with a flag that reads Veterans for Peace.org. Police start shooting projectiles into the crowd. Suddenly, Olsen is down. Protesters rush towards him where he is lying on the ground. But they scatter when a tear gas canister explodes on the ground next to Olsen. Eventually, protesters carried Olsen away and drove him to the hospital. source; Huffington Post
jonhansen100 4 months ago in playlist Misc.