I (unlucky) live in GA and I can attest to what TYTs are saying. They hand out very harsh sentences here. Armed Robbery - mandatory 10 years. Kidnapping - mandatory 20 years. Stalking 1-10 years. Man slaughter - 10-25 years.... Don't come to GA if you intend to commit a crime. Even if you are not a criminal, stay the fuck away from the south.
the usa has gotten draconian on its crimes in the last 25-40 years. the laws there changed virtually overnight. in louisiana before 1973 an average life sentence was 10 years and 6 months, then lwop became mandatory for 1st degree and 20 years for 2nd degree, then in 1975 minimum for 2nd degree rose to 40 years then natural life on july 13 1979. in georgia an average life sentence use to be 7 years, texas 4, arizona and wisconsin 13, now nobody in wisconsin sentenced after 1989 has been paroled.
LOL instead of putting a shoplifet in jail, use that billion dollar to provide them with food (baby formula) and train them for some job. this is ridiculous.
Democracy what a funny word. THe US is a dictatorship but it is sold to us as a democracy. The US has more people in jails than any other countries in the world. but here is the kicker, all the people in jail in the world put together are less than the people in jail in the US. and that including china, Russia, Iran, south Africa,....all put together.
The point it boils down to there inmates they got in trouble. They did the crime got caught and found guilty. That's just how the system works. They are all treated in prison as the same. No robber or murderer is treated any different then a drug dealer with loads of dope from Texas to Georgia. You do the crime do your time
Only advice I got do whats right in prison and you get a way shorter sentence. Its all on the individual
@JohnnyReb07 I agree with you that each person is responsible for their own actions. But the punishment here is not fitting the crime. If you commit a non violent crime I don't think you should get ten years in prison.
and in America you are open to the accusation that the Prison Industry pushes for longer sentences to make more dollars. That is insane. Lock someone up for ten years not because they deserve it but just so that the shareholders make more money?
I understand that we need to punish people who shoplift. But I think a difference should be made between people who steal because they are desperate to survive and feed their families and people who steal because they are greedy.
If Georgia is willing to pay me $60,000 a year - savings of more than thousand bucks for Ga taxpayers - I swear I will be a model non-offending citizen
Cenk mentioned a lady who got busted stealing baby. When you hear about people stealing baby food, it seems so depressing, like something out of Les Miserables where someone was trying to feed their family, however, many of them steal it to make crack in the glass jar. I worked at a 7-11 at night when I was in college and druggies were always coming in and buying, or stealing, baking soda and baby food. Finally, someone explained that those were two of the three things they needed to make crack.
Or you can go with the American law and have innocent people getting raped and killed in much higher rates and then the rest of people pay for the criminals mistakes just because they sympathize with the criminals that didn't have any sympathy for the innocent victim in the first place. Use your common sense, logic and reason and you'll agree with me.
@saudiUTUBE Umm Saudi arabia statistically has some of the lowest crime rates. This is very true. Until you consider it has the lowest reported crime rates. Nearly every rape in Saudi Arabia is never reported. Because the victim will get punished far worse then the rapist. If the victim is a woman she need 4 male eye witnesses to back up her story just to bring charges against the rapist.
Our legal system has its flaws, definately and big ones.
@saudiUTUBE You can make the same argument for adopting European style laws and avoid the fact that adopting Islamic law would be massively unconstitutional.
I'm massively insulted. I'm an impoverished college student living on $12,000 a year in student loans and working to supplement that as much as possible so that I can pay rent. These prisoners are having $61,000 spent "on them" a year? Just to keep them in prison?! Give me 1/4 of that and I'll actually be able to concentrate on school instead of worrying whether or not I'll be evicted next month, and you'll even see a return investment!
This seems to be the story over and over again. Liberals bring up an issue and show how damaging a specific policy could be in the future then right thoughtlessly dismisses it.
Time goes by and eventually the damage from the policy that the liberals foresaw comes to fruition and only then does everyone else jump on board.
The US is kind of sad we have the highest crime rates in just about every category in the industrialized worried. crime, health care cost, education, war when you privatize something it will always end up costing more with equal or worse results then when its public. Privatize prisons and you saw a huge jump in prison populations over the next 3 to 4 years.
The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world at 754 persons in prison or jail per 100,000 (as of 2008). A report released February 28, 2008 indicates that more than 1 in 100 adults in the United States are in prison. The United States has less than 5% of the world's population and 23.4% of the world's prison population. Funny that immoral country of the in Netherlands in 2002 had a rate of only 93 for every 100,000 people.
e now imprison more people for drug law violations than all of Western Europe (with a much larger population) incarcerates for all offenses. Taxpayers spend $60 billion a year for prisons. It costs approximately $30,000 a year to house a prisoner. Its bad when it cost more to house a prisoner then a person makes working 5, 6 days a week 52 weeks a year will the prisoner seats on the butt and don't produce a thing, put them to work in a metal or wood shop something.
According to a US Department of Justice report published in 2006, over 7.2 million people were at that time in prison, on probation, or on parole. That means roughly 1 in every 32 Americans are held by the justice system. One of the biggest contributors to the United States' spike is the war on drugs. Around 1980, the United States had 40,000 people in prison for drug crimes. Currently, the United States houses over 500,000 prisoners for these crimes.
I don't know the Answer but I believe if people knew what the consequences of their actions would amount to there would be less crime. I just don't believe a naive 17 year old takes a dime bag of weed and sticks it in his pocket knows that can land him or her some serious time. Long prison sentences do not deter non violent crimes if the offenders have no idea the type of time they will get. I guarantee half the little tennie boper dope smokers have no clue.
25% of all the people in the world are in prison in America, ie over 2 million people in jail in America as opposed to 8 million worldwide from a population of 6 billion. Land of the free !!!! I think not
@HonDuhify 10 years for stealing 258 dollars. Of baby formula. For her baby (we presume). Although, as was pointed out in the video, she already had a history of stealing, which is probably what landed her such a huge sentence.
The current prison system is really the worst thing to reform people, if you're convicted of a felony, you stripped of your right to vote, college and bank loans, assistant housing and higher education in general, these are all the tools that get people on there feet and ahead in the world, which pretty much makes it almost impossible for people to actually leave the life that got them in jail in the first place.
I am 100% in favor of legal/prison reform here in Ga, but it's a bit absurd for Anna to condemn Ga government for cutting spending via layoffs rather than inmate population considering that it would be extremely difficult/impossible to make budgetary balances through the latter at the will of legislators. Of course people shouldn't be put in jail for victimless crimes, but unfortunately they already have been which is not something that can be undone at the drop of a hat. What choice was there?
I don't think its that absurd for Ana to criticize layoffs of Prison employees, ESPECIALLY if they are Corrections staff. Do you have ANY idea how dangerous being a Corrections Officer is? Especially if you working in close quarters with prisoners, & oftentimes having little more than a baton for protection.
I don't know what the proper ratio is for corrections officer per prisoner, but I'm pretty sure there is a danger level when too many Correction Officers are cut.
@willia3r I wasn't saying that it was the "right/best" decision to layoff staff. My point was simply that a choice had to be made and the better option wasn't possible. I would LOVE IT if everyone sitting in a cell for a victimless crime was released/put on community service, or something similiar. So as there really wasn't a choice to be made, it's not fair to blame it on Ga government like that.
You steal 400.00 worth of merchandise, you do 400.00 worth of community service...at .50 an hour. You commit a crime against society, you owe society a debt. You pay it back.
Why don't you get minimum wage? Because you chose to work outside the rules society lives by, so you don't get the benefits of law biding citizen. Once you work off your debt to US, you can b a real person again.
Win - Win. Nonviolent criminals are punished and the state gets a cheap labor force.
@Talondas so how does society suffer when I choose to do with my body something that doesn't affect society at all? How is it any business of society or yours for that matter?
@magicpet So the people profiting from you buying the drugs don't do any damage at all? Riiiiiiiiight. How does it affect society if I have a child secretly, then kill it for its juices? No harm to society no foul?
@ddtrinketbb what a disgusting strawman. You obviously have no shame at all. No one smuggles what is already legal which is what I was getting at. . So by that logic every time you shop at Walmart you're running a sweat shop in Asia , everytime you pay taxes in you're bombing Afganistan
I'm assuming your talking drug use, specifically pot. I'm all for the legalization of marijuana. Shit, just another taxable product in my opinion, along with alcohol and tobacco.
If your talking about public masturbation (your body), public sex (your and your partners bodies), blowing your self up in public (your body and body parts), lighting yourself on fire (your body)...your a pervy-wanker or a jihadist..and they both need to be locked up.
Georgia is only 8th on highest per capita prison population...anyone want to guess which direction the compass needle points for the 7 above it...as well as the 5 below it?
Follow the money. Private prisons for profit would rather cut staff than reduce the number of inmates. I'm sure they have a powerful lobby on their side as well.
How many laws do we pass vs. how many are repealed? Eventually everyone will be a criminal. How many people do you know by their 50s never had a fine ticket or were arrested and detained? 1/13 are in prison or parole or probation in Georgia. How many have been charged with breaking a law, and just paid a fine? In America almost everyone is a criminal.
Many of Georgia's prisons are privately run, for-profit businesses. The biggest player in this field is Vanguard. Who is the largest shareholder in Vanguard? Dick Cheney is. Now do you see what's really going on here? The last thing Evil Dick is going to do is reduce the number of prisioners; they're the source of his frickin' revenue after all. But by cutting staff, he's saving on payroll. And when prison violence escalates because of reduced supervision, predictably his reaction will be: "So?"
@qrqrqrqr1 tell that to all the people that have made laws against drugs, put people into jail for drugs, and also, tell that to the people that have hurt other people from using drugs. stupid person.
@SomethinDwnUrPantss I'm all for ending the drug war through political means. That's sort of the point of these political commentaries: facilitating public discourse. An individual petitioning congressmen isn't going to change anything. As for people who have hurt others, I don't see the relevance. Violent criminals should be jailed for their violence, not for their drug use. Not to mention that many drug addicts are incentivized to steal due to restricted supply of drugs driving up the price.
@qrqrqrqr1 well whatever you said im guessing youre agreeing with me. but either way, drugs dont get you anywhere and dont help you accomplish anything so just dont do them. simple as that.
So Georgia shouldn't send people to prison for non violent felonies? Of course, my mistake, it's societies' fault for these people commiting felonies. Georgia should just repeals its laws. That way when someone steals a car, they won't go to prison. That's the answer, Georgia's standard of law is just too high.
@AmericanNohbuddy I agree, but my point is that if the State is enforcing it's CURRENT laws, of course it's going to cost more money because they're catching more people. What's so shocking about that? The more they enforce, they more they catch. But if you're arguing the severity of the punishment, then that can be done through the legislative process. Two different things. Georgia tax payers don't want to pay for the cost, then repeal certain laws.
@2PaperTigers Seriously, have you watched the video? It is repeated over an over again that they aren't against punishment, but the harshness of Georgia's law is way to costly. The "society's fault for these people commiting felonies" is never mentioned and clearly not endorsed, what the hell are you talking about?
@weeecrap No shit it's going to cost more money if the laws are being enforced more. The cops catch more guys, it's going to cost more to keep them locked up. The video isn't about morality or ethics of law. It's a financial one where Ana, most notably, wants to stop enforcing laws because she thinks its way too many people and cost too much. The first 2 minutes they talk about that it's too many people, regardless of the fact that they broke the current law and enforced a punishment.
@2PaperTigers Seriously, have you watched the video? It is repeated over an over again that they aren't against punishment, but the harshness of Georgia's law is way to costly.
@weeecrap I agree that perhaps the laws should be reviewed. That said, if they're currently in place, the law should be enforced. Should we stop arresting people for DUI's just because too many are being caught? One fixes this by repealing current laws and legislating for new ones.
@2PaperTigers "One fixes this by repealing current laws and legislating for new ones" That is exactly the idea. No one is criticizing the idea of punishment, but the current Georgia model is way to expensive. Sure DUI prisons make sense, but how much time would they be in jail? I have no idea, either, but let's suppose it is one month.... making it two months would (sort of) double the cost, but would it reduce the amount of DUI's that happen?
@weeecrap Time of prison time should be looked at. I also think they should look at where the money is being spent. People in prison are being treated pretty good in there. I'm not saying they would have to break rocks all day, but i don't see why they wouldn't be more sustainable like farming their own produce. Not too mention how much money the unions have asked for in the prison systems. Money poorly spent.
@2PaperTigers Lucky there are prisons that staff the kitchen with nonviolent prisoners better then paying 2 dozen or more people to make food 7 days a week. There also prisons that offer ged classes and i believe some higher education certificates, training in wood and metal shops the only problem is these are offered only at a small percentage of prisons and only to a small handful of prisoners. The way the system is as a whole make a trip back to prison incredibly likely.
@2PaperTigers Yes but when you are arrested as a teen for 6 or 7 years and you come out without a ged or anything its nearly impossible to find work. so you just end up right back in jail again.
@Theimmortalwhitewolf If a teen gets convicted for 6 or 7 years, that must a been a pretty big crime. Furthermore it's not that State's fault he or she committed the crime. That's part of the cost of committing the crime. What should the State do? Charge the tax payers's for a free bachelor's for the convict? Go out of their way to give this person more opportunity than other people, who never committed a crime, in unfortunate situations have?
@2PaperTigers NO i said GED not a college education. Selling weed will land you in that type of time, also the number of teens tried as adults has increase just about every year in the era of tough on crime. It makes as much since as zero tolerance policies. The Center for Juvenile and Criminal Justice released a story in 2003 about a 13 year old girl in Tuscaloosa, Alabama arrested and detained for 5 weeks for possession of what was thought to be marijuana, but turned out to be oregano.
@Theimmortalwhitewolf The last part was a fail of a person not doing their job, not an entire system that varies from State to State. I just think that some laws should be reviewed, government funds should be better spent, and prison should be a place that people fear as to avoid it.
@2PaperTigers i can give you dozens of stories similar to this because zero tolerance take the judgment out of the hands of the teachers and principles so they cant be blamed for being tougher on one group of people over another, a story off the top of my head was a young boy in kindergarten being suspended for bring a lego toy gun that is about an inch long to class to play with during play time.
@2PaperTigers Connecticut law states Possession of illegal drugs (including weed)within 1,500 feet of an elementary or secondary school or a licensed day care center = Mandatory 2-year jail sentence running consecutively to jail term imposed for violating other drug possession laws. less then 4 oz anywhere else 1st time offense up to a year anything above 4 oz up to 5 years. and several other states have similar laws.
@weeecrap They could always after the second or third offense put in one of the breathalyzer in the car that wont start if you are above a limit and just take 5 or 10 bucks a pay check from the person till the system is paid off, give them that or jail time they will choose the breathalyzer every time.
zero tolerence policies are garbage. We have one in my school. If you defend yourself from violent attack you recive the same automatic sentence as the agressor. 5-10 day suspenseion. Its RETARDED
I say death penalty. Everything above shoplifting, death penalty. Let's see how fast people start shapin' up when their friend's get on death row for stealing a candy bar.
The Prison Industry (Put as many people in Prison as possible, no matter what they did, just make sure as many as possible are kept locked in prison & enslaved, and the prison industry (ALL the private prison corporations) gets BILLIONS & BILLIONS in tax-payer money and makes BILLIONS in Profit). The Private Prison Industry is THE Most Profitable and THE Most Criminal of all Industry. It's the reason why marijuana is not legal, it's the reason why USA has the LARGEST prison population on Earth.
"Stole $200 worth of baby food...jailed for 10 years costing $100k+..."
That's just insane, you don't go around jailing people for 10 years or cutting off their limbs regardless if that baby food was for her baby or not...The state spent 500x more on her imprisonment than the 200 bucks worth of baby feed she stole. Now her baby is going to grow up without her mother, I wonder how the "pro-family" will feel about this...Oh wait, they're the ones locking people up for minor offences.
Taking drugs, blasphemy, etc, these are victimless crimes, or at least they don't hurt others (unless you're a fascist crybaby). Waste of money, waste of time, by giving people criminal records- you make them less employable and consequently make them more prone to resorting to risky ways of earning money.
Just wait until America begins puting crooked bankers in jail they will need 100 billion in more prisons. I know, that will never happen I am just saying.
Sweden spends about the same amount on it's prison system, and has a population equivalent to Georgia. Although there is a difference in structure, facilities and treatment of prisoners.
*They need the death penalty for every offense >10 years that would empty the prisons, criminality would drop, the population would drop dramatically, unemployment would drop. so every one can have more stuff.*
(not being serious) but i think I should go to Georgia and commit a serious crime.. then make a plea deal with the judge that if they just give me $45,000 a year, I wouldn't break the law anymore... if they accepted my offer they could save $16,000 a year by not putting me in prison.. that way i'd be helping the state save money and at the same time I'd be an upstanding citizen.. it'd be a win win situation..
@draxthedog lol why the hell would you keep that promise? If you were a criminal? You take the free money, buy some heron and go do what it is you do, know your not serious but there is serious fault in the logic :)
listen, blacks have known about this for yrs! (white) america just chooses 2 ignore it. & dont u liberal white folks reply with that "it aint about race" crap! 90% of those inmates r black & brown ppl! & go fuck yoself if u tell me wheres my source(something white ppl loooove 2 do!) my source is my EYES assholes.
@edupbeat I'm not even saying your wrong, but if your only source is your eyes, then you can go fuck YOURSELF. Of course its about race (who on earth said it wasn't?) but that doesn't exclude you from having to defend your position. And if you think being asked to defend your position deserves a "go fuck yourself", have fun being wrong.
@eirefrance "and if u think asked 2 defend your position deserves a "go fuck yoself", hav fun being wrong". ok, let me try 2 meet u half way as a african american. when we do defend our position(s) we're labeled a "(reverse) racist", ha! i guess i'll have fun being wrong then.
@ninetysevenecho In fact, I think you refute what I assume to be your own original ideas and asert my response by saying: 'if the weed those weak-minded american stereotypes were smoking really was "government regulated" then there wouldn't be a problem.'
P.S. Profanity isn't necessary. It just makes you look silly.
@ninetysevenecho No, no I think he's right. You are retarded. Or at the very least, not well acquainted with social issues.
I was using the American 'dump on drugs' as an example, to refute your initial statement. A drug addict, for instance, would only be harming himself if use of the substance was legal. It could be regulated, and deaths related to impure substances and blood-borne diseases would be down, a prime example of where your rather sarcastic comment would work well.
It's a business, that's why things are the way they are. Until lobbying in Washington and at state levels is made illegal with severe punishments for breaking the law, nothing will change, not this prison issue, not war not anything.
Typical conservatives. They want so much BS, but they don't want to foot the bill. If you make fun of liberals for being soft on crime etc, and you say you're a tough guy, then you better be prepared to foot the bill. The bill is the reason we say it doesn't make sense, you didn't want to meet that argument, now you're noticing it costs a fuckload of money, and NOW you're realizing it?
How about realizing the problem before you create it eh conservatives? Might be a good idea?
@bobbytiger Dixiecrat. One of the old school of Democrats. Back when Democrats were the party of the south, the party of segregation, the party of intolerance. Isn't odd how history works?
@bobbytiger Zell Miller is a Democrat in name only. He is a conservative who supported GW Bush and even spoke at the 2004 Republican National Convention.
Those Georgian Republicans are dumb! They might want to consider hiring a financial analyst into their State government system. It makes absolutely NO sense to spend almost $200,000.00 over the period of 10years, on a woman who 'shoplifted' baby necessities worth over a mere $200.00. I'm very sure giving her a sentence to do community services and paying a fine would have sufficed.
Not only is it fucking stupid to cut the staff while putting MORE people in prison, but doesn't cutting staff also make the economic health of your state worse since that's new people without jobs now?
@MrDustock first of all, I'm pretty sure Cenk didn't kill a million Armenians, secondly Ana is Armenian yet she is on this show, ironic? Thirdly, your so - called Armenian Genocide is still a matter of debate, so why don't you shut the fuck up and comment on the issue at hand instead of messing around with irrelevant discussion of one single term.. Geez, the only reason they chose the name TYT is because when the group was found , it was to be progressive and it symbolized social change.. fuck
Detaining people that don't do harm to others is ridiculous and pathetic...
Murderers, rapists, thieves need to punished for the crime they commit.
Locking people up for drugs is very hypocritical in a way if you think about it. Because all you are doing is exposing a normal person to a hostile and domination based environment, where the only way to survive is to team up like a pack of animals and stay alive by any means necessary. It causes the individual to become dysfunctional on release.
@FumingPoliticalPunk Fascism is a latin term that was used in the Roman Empire. The fasist, the symbol a fasism, is an axe with sticks bound around them. I'm sure you can work out the meaning. Nazism is a bit diffrent to fascism. There were other Fascist states around at many times. Just at WWII (europe) alone you have the spainish and italians in europe
@Nexius8 Fascism was not a term used in the Roman Empire. It was invented in the early 20th cen, though it does derive from 'fasces.' It is possible to argue that the Nazi's were left wing and socialist and some respected scholars do so, though the vast majority see it as a right wing. 'Young Turk' does originate from the early 20th cen movement and they were violent radical and quite similar to fascists. Today, it has a more genial connotation of course. It's a good name for the show, I think.
So what is wrong with a guaranteed ten year sentence for a person who commits a violent felony? It is a good idea to get all violent criminals off the streets until they are well past thirty when statistically they are less likely to hurt someone else. It also stops them from having children who might be likely to be a burden to society. I do believe we need to make space in our prisons for Bernanke, Geithner, Blankfein, Hank Paulson et al.
We NEED President Palin for she will get to the bottom of this PORK spending on our prisons and put an end to this wasteful spending of taxpayer money! President Palin will use tax money in much better ways than Dubya and Obozo!
They said there are 2 million people in US prisons? 2 million people! Watch Death Wish 3. Why are people so violent? Poor economy. Give them jobs and watch the crime rate go down.
Great idea cut the staff, don't look for a solution involving letting a few people who commited minor offences back out into the world on parole. Cut the staff, because we all know it's harder to break out of prison when there are less guards.
Georgia, kind of like America as a whole but to the exxxxtreeeeeeme. Like take everything stupid about America, stretch it out farther than you think it can go, to the edge of idiocy. Or, perhaps another way to look at it is Georgia is a microcosm of America as a whole in the future. As we complete our decline over the next decade or so from world power with a strong middle class to a miserable failure of a country, the country as a whole will look more and more like what Georgia does now.
@MrDustock you are trying to make an event that was carried out by a rogue arm of a government the single most defining characteristic they represent. Your representation is false, no matter how you cut it. the young turks are defined by what historians have researched. you, an insignificant person, will not change anyone's mind.
Did anyone notice the lack of sponsors on this video at the beginnign and end? I knwo it's hwo they make their profit but it was convenient and enjoyable to not have those bookending the video.
You WILL also get fucked with by the police if you're black in the south. GUARANTEED.
jkirui007 1 month ago
I (unlucky) live in GA and I can attest to what TYTs are saying. They hand out very harsh sentences here. Armed Robbery - mandatory 10 years. Kidnapping - mandatory 20 years. Stalking 1-10 years. Man slaughter - 10-25 years.... Don't come to GA if you intend to commit a crime. Even if you are not a criminal, stay the fuck away from the south.
jkirui007 1 month ago
the usa has gotten draconian on its crimes in the last 25-40 years. the laws there changed virtually overnight. in louisiana before 1973 an average life sentence was 10 years and 6 months, then lwop became mandatory for 1st degree and 20 years for 2nd degree, then in 1975 minimum for 2nd degree rose to 40 years then natural life on july 13 1979. in georgia an average life sentence use to be 7 years, texas 4, arizona and wisconsin 13, now nobody in wisconsin sentenced after 1989 has been paroled.
ultradumbass 1 month ago
The USA has the highest prison population in the world
gedebage 6 months ago
georgia is one of the most racist states in this country...its no wounder blacks hate whites in that state..
dbaile2 10 months ago
LOL instead of putting a shoplifet in jail, use that billion dollar to provide them with food (baby formula) and train them for some job. this is ridiculous.
glower125 10 months ago
Democracy what a funny word. THe US is a dictatorship but it is sold to us as a democracy. The US has more people in jails than any other countries in the world. but here is the kicker, all the people in jail in the world put together are less than the people in jail in the US. and that including china, Russia, Iran, south Africa,....all put together.
Amazing!
glower125 10 months ago
The point it boils down to there inmates they got in trouble. They did the crime got caught and found guilty. That's just how the system works. They are all treated in prison as the same. No robber or murderer is treated any different then a drug dealer with loads of dope from Texas to Georgia. You do the crime do your time
Only advice I got do whats right in prison and you get a way shorter sentence. Its all on the individual
JohnnyReb07 1 year ago
@JohnnyReb07 I agree with you that each person is responsible for their own actions. But the punishment here is not fitting the crime. If you commit a non violent crime I don't think you should get ten years in prison.
and in America you are open to the accusation that the Prison Industry pushes for longer sentences to make more dollars. That is insane. Lock someone up for ten years not because they deserve it but just so that the shareholders make more money?
cupmyplums 1 year ago
The state must open his own prisons.
bigschmarn 1 year ago
I understand that we need to punish people who shoplift. But I think a difference should be made between people who steal because they are desperate to survive and feed their families and people who steal because they are greedy.
xmike87 1 year ago
Georgia fail.
xmike87 1 year ago
If Georgia is willing to pay me $60,000 a year - savings of more than thousand bucks for Ga taxpayers - I swear I will be a model non-offending citizen
tcdowning666 1 year ago
They spend more on prisoners than they do on soldiers.
rjbonacolta 1 year ago
Cenk mentioned a lady who got busted stealing baby. When you hear about people stealing baby food, it seems so depressing, like something out of Les Miserables where someone was trying to feed their family, however, many of them steal it to make crack in the glass jar. I worked at a 7-11 at night when I was in college and druggies were always coming in and buying, or stealing, baking soda and baby food. Finally, someone explained that those were two of the three things they needed to make crack.
jimbrown257 1 year ago
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SmokeOutFamily 1 year ago
I think we could save money by executing murders and violent rapists.....
blueravenchick 1 year ago
I think we could save money by executing murders and violent rapists.....
blueravenchick 1 year ago
Go for the Islamic law:
1:significantly less crime rate.
2:conserve people's money.
Or you can go with the American law and have innocent people getting raped and killed in much higher rates and then the rest of people pay for the criminals mistakes just because they sympathize with the criminals that didn't have any sympathy for the innocent victim in the first place. Use your common sense, logic and reason and you'll agree with me.
saudiUTUBE 1 year ago
@saudiUTUBE Umm Saudi arabia statistically has some of the lowest crime rates. This is very true. Until you consider it has the lowest reported crime rates. Nearly every rape in Saudi Arabia is never reported. Because the victim will get punished far worse then the rapist. If the victim is a woman she need 4 male eye witnesses to back up her story just to bring charges against the rapist.
Our legal system has its flaws, definately and big ones.
But your system is far worse.
GhostInTheShell29 1 year ago
@saudiUTUBE You can make the same argument for adopting European style laws and avoid the fact that adopting Islamic law would be massively unconstitutional.
rjbonacolta 1 year ago
@ninetysevenecho ???
draxthedog 1 year ago
I'm massively insulted. I'm an impoverished college student living on $12,000 a year in student loans and working to supplement that as much as possible so that I can pay rent. These prisoners are having $61,000 spent "on them" a year? Just to keep them in prison?! Give me 1/4 of that and I'll actually be able to concentrate on school instead of worrying whether or not I'll be evicted next month, and you'll even see a return investment!
theguruofreason 1 year ago 13
@theguruofreason
the sad thing is, some are in there for drugs, such as WEED !
shaochiavang 9 months ago
@shaochiavang yes indeed
dbaile2 7 months ago
Robbery = Rawberry
Try "unsee" it
Rexonius 1 year ago
This seems to be the story over and over again. Liberals bring up an issue and show how damaging a specific policy could be in the future then right thoughtlessly dismisses it.
Time goes by and eventually the damage from the policy that the liberals foresaw comes to fruition and only then does everyone else jump on board.
Conservatives are behind the times on all issues.
MaudsPas 1 year ago
Because drugs are totally ok....
fasle2 1 year ago
The US is kind of sad we have the highest crime rates in just about every category in the industrialized worried. crime, health care cost, education, war when you privatize something it will always end up costing more with equal or worse results then when its public. Privatize prisons and you saw a huge jump in prison populations over the next 3 to 4 years.
Theimmortalwhitewolf 1 year ago
The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world at 754 persons in prison or jail per 100,000 (as of 2008). A report released February 28, 2008 indicates that more than 1 in 100 adults in the United States are in prison. The United States has less than 5% of the world's population and 23.4% of the world's prison population. Funny that immoral country of the in Netherlands in 2002 had a rate of only 93 for every 100,000 people.
Theimmortalwhitewolf 1 year ago
e now imprison more people for drug law violations than all of Western Europe (with a much larger population) incarcerates for all offenses. Taxpayers spend $60 billion a year for prisons. It costs approximately $30,000 a year to house a prisoner. Its bad when it cost more to house a prisoner then a person makes working 5, 6 days a week 52 weeks a year will the prisoner seats on the butt and don't produce a thing, put them to work in a metal or wood shop something.
Theimmortalwhitewolf 1 year ago
They should turn all of Georgia into a prison ala Escape from New York.
Dicktaa 1 year ago
According to a US Department of Justice report published in 2006, over 7.2 million people were at that time in prison, on probation, or on parole. That means roughly 1 in every 32 Americans are held by the justice system. One of the biggest contributors to the United States' spike is the war on drugs. Around 1980, the United States had 40,000 people in prison for drug crimes. Currently, the United States houses over 500,000 prisoners for these crimes.
Theimmortalwhitewolf 1 year ago
I don't know the Answer but I believe if people knew what the consequences of their actions would amount to there would be less crime. I just don't believe a naive 17 year old takes a dime bag of weed and sticks it in his pocket knows that can land him or her some serious time. Long prison sentences do not deter non violent crimes if the offenders have no idea the type of time they will get. I guarantee half the little tennie boper dope smokers have no clue.
cchanderson 1 year ago
Am I insane or is Ana about one of the most beautiful women in the world?
Digging that hair, girl!
LeLimeLine 1 year ago
25% of all the people in the world are in prison in America, ie over 2 million people in jail in America as opposed to 8 million worldwide from a population of 6 billion. Land of the free !!!! I think not
Tcheuchter1 1 year ago
Kind of ironic considering the original purpose of the Georgia colony
AisuKaiko 1 year ago
God damn! 10 years for robbery? That's crazy. Talk about excessive.
HonDuhify 1 year ago
@HonDuhify 10 years for stealing 258 dollars. Of baby formula. For her baby (we presume). Although, as was pointed out in the video, she already had a history of stealing, which is probably what landed her such a huge sentence.
godthisisannoying 1 year ago
The current prison system is really the worst thing to reform people, if you're convicted of a felony, you stripped of your right to vote, college and bank loans, assistant housing and higher education in general, these are all the tools that get people on there feet and ahead in the world, which pretty much makes it almost impossible for people to actually leave the life that got them in jail in the first place.
TheDalinkwent 1 year ago 9
I am 100% in favor of legal/prison reform here in Ga, but it's a bit absurd for Anna to condemn Ga government for cutting spending via layoffs rather than inmate population considering that it would be extremely difficult/impossible to make budgetary balances through the latter at the will of legislators. Of course people shouldn't be put in jail for victimless crimes, but unfortunately they already have been which is not something that can be undone at the drop of a hat. What choice was there?
Jewavenger 1 year ago
@Jewavenger
I don't think its that absurd for Ana to criticize layoffs of Prison employees, ESPECIALLY if they are Corrections staff. Do you have ANY idea how dangerous being a Corrections Officer is? Especially if you working in close quarters with prisoners, & oftentimes having little more than a baton for protection.
I don't know what the proper ratio is for corrections officer per prisoner, but I'm pretty sure there is a danger level when too many Correction Officers are cut.
willia3r 1 year ago
@willia3r I wasn't saying that it was the "right/best" decision to layoff staff. My point was simply that a choice had to be made and the better option wasn't possible. I would LOVE IT if everyone sitting in a cell for a victimless crime was released/put on community service, or something similiar. So as there really wasn't a choice to be made, it's not fair to blame it on Ga government like that.
At least that's my opinion...
Jewavenger 1 year ago
@Jewavenger
No problems. I simply disagree with your opinion, that's all.
willia3r 1 year ago
You steal 400.00 worth of merchandise, you do 400.00 worth of community service...at .50 an hour. You commit a crime against society, you owe society a debt. You pay it back.
Why don't you get minimum wage? Because you chose to work outside the rules society lives by, so you don't get the benefits of law biding citizen. Once you work off your debt to US, you can b a real person again.
Win - Win. Nonviolent criminals are punished and the state gets a cheap labor force.
Talondas 1 year ago
@Talondas so how does society suffer when I choose to do with my body something that doesn't affect society at all? How is it any business of society or yours for that matter?
magicpet 1 year ago
@magicpet So the people profiting from you buying the drugs don't do any damage at all? Riiiiiiiiight. How does it affect society if I have a child secretly, then kill it for its juices? No harm to society no foul?
ddtrinketbb 1 year ago
@ddtrinketbb what a disgusting strawman. You obviously have no shame at all. No one smuggles what is already legal which is what I was getting at. . So by that logic every time you shop at Walmart you're running a sweat shop in Asia , everytime you pay taxes in you're bombing Afganistan
magicpet 1 year ago
@magicpet wow, how vague can you get?
I'm assuming your talking drug use, specifically pot. I'm all for the legalization of marijuana. Shit, just another taxable product in my opinion, along with alcohol and tobacco.
If your talking about public masturbation (your body), public sex (your and your partners bodies), blowing your self up in public (your body and body parts), lighting yourself on fire (your body)...your a pervy-wanker or a jihadist..and they both need to be locked up.
Nuff said.
Talondas 1 year ago
Georgia is only 8th on highest per capita prison population...anyone want to guess which direction the compass needle points for the 7 above it...as well as the 5 below it?
Hopeful71 1 year ago
jail =big buisness
brandisman1 1 year ago
@brandisman1 true. putting people in prison is a way for the prison industry to take a slice of that big tax-payer money pie.
ahioud 1 year ago
@ahioud true
brandisman1 1 year ago
Follow the money. Private prisons for profit would rather cut staff than reduce the number of inmates. I'm sure they have a powerful lobby on their side as well.
smokeater435 1 year ago
How many laws do we pass vs. how many are repealed? Eventually everyone will be a criminal. How many people do you know by their 50s never had a fine ticket or were arrested and detained? 1/13 are in prison or parole or probation in Georgia. How many have been charged with breaking a law, and just paid a fine? In America almost everyone is a criminal.
cmillerpa33 1 year ago
Many of Georgia's prisons are privately run, for-profit businesses. The biggest player in this field is Vanguard. Who is the largest shareholder in Vanguard? Dick Cheney is. Now do you see what's really going on here? The last thing Evil Dick is going to do is reduce the number of prisioners; they're the source of his frickin' revenue after all. But by cutting staff, he's saving on payroll. And when prison violence escalates because of reduced supervision, predictably his reaction will be: "So?"
Silberdachs 1 year ago
@Silberdachs I imagine his reaction will be to ask the Fed. for more money.
cmillerpa33 1 year ago
how about... you just dont do drugs? stupid humans.
SomethinDwnUrPantss 1 year ago
@SomethinDwnUrPantss How about minding our own business and not putting people in cages for ingesting the wrong chemicals?
qrqrqrqr1 1 year ago
@qrqrqrqr1 tell that to all the people that have made laws against drugs, put people into jail for drugs, and also, tell that to the people that have hurt other people from using drugs. stupid person.
SomethinDwnUrPantss 1 year ago
@SomethinDwnUrPantss I'm all for ending the drug war through political means. That's sort of the point of these political commentaries: facilitating public discourse. An individual petitioning congressmen isn't going to change anything. As for people who have hurt others, I don't see the relevance. Violent criminals should be jailed for their violence, not for their drug use. Not to mention that many drug addicts are incentivized to steal due to restricted supply of drugs driving up the price.
qrqrqrqr1 1 year ago
@qrqrqrqr1 well whatever you said im guessing youre agreeing with me. but either way, drugs dont get you anywhere and dont help you accomplish anything so just dont do them. simple as that.
SomethinDwnUrPantss 1 year ago
We should just send all violent prisoners to an island somewhere and let them rule themselves. We could even make a tv show out of it!
clm51193 1 year ago
@clm51193 lol like australia?
helioncry 1 year ago
So Georgia shouldn't send people to prison for non violent felonies? Of course, my mistake, it's societies' fault for these people commiting felonies. Georgia should just repeals its laws. That way when someone steals a car, they won't go to prison. That's the answer, Georgia's standard of law is just too high.
2PaperTigers 1 year ago
@2PaperTigers
But 10+ years for something like a bag of weed is ridiculous.
AmericanNohbuddy 1 year ago
@AmericanNohbuddy I agree, but my point is that if the State is enforcing it's CURRENT laws, of course it's going to cost more money because they're catching more people. What's so shocking about that? The more they enforce, they more they catch. But if you're arguing the severity of the punishment, then that can be done through the legislative process. Two different things. Georgia tax payers don't want to pay for the cost, then repeal certain laws.
2PaperTigers 1 year ago
@2PaperTigers Seriously, have you watched the video? It is repeated over an over again that they aren't against punishment, but the harshness of Georgia's law is way to costly. The "society's fault for these people commiting felonies" is never mentioned and clearly not endorsed, what the hell are you talking about?
weeecrap 1 year ago
@weeecrap No shit it's going to cost more money if the laws are being enforced more. The cops catch more guys, it's going to cost more to keep them locked up. The video isn't about morality or ethics of law. It's a financial one where Ana, most notably, wants to stop enforcing laws because she thinks its way too many people and cost too much. The first 2 minutes they talk about that it's too many people, regardless of the fact that they broke the current law and enforced a punishment.
2PaperTigers 1 year ago
@2PaperTigers Seriously, have you watched the video? It is repeated over an over again that they aren't against punishment, but the harshness of Georgia's law is way to costly.
weeecrap 1 year ago
@weeecrap I agree that perhaps the laws should be reviewed. That said, if they're currently in place, the law should be enforced. Should we stop arresting people for DUI's just because too many are being caught? One fixes this by repealing current laws and legislating for new ones.
2PaperTigers 1 year ago
@2PaperTigers "One fixes this by repealing current laws and legislating for new ones" That is exactly the idea. No one is criticizing the idea of punishment, but the current Georgia model is way to expensive. Sure DUI prisons make sense, but how much time would they be in jail? I have no idea, either, but let's suppose it is one month.... making it two months would (sort of) double the cost, but would it reduce the amount of DUI's that happen?
weeecrap 1 year ago
@weeecrap Time of prison time should be looked at. I also think they should look at where the money is being spent. People in prison are being treated pretty good in there. I'm not saying they would have to break rocks all day, but i don't see why they wouldn't be more sustainable like farming their own produce. Not too mention how much money the unions have asked for in the prison systems. Money poorly spent.
2PaperTigers 1 year ago
@2PaperTigers Lucky there are prisons that staff the kitchen with nonviolent prisoners better then paying 2 dozen or more people to make food 7 days a week. There also prisons that offer ged classes and i believe some higher education certificates, training in wood and metal shops the only problem is these are offered only at a small percentage of prisons and only to a small handful of prisoners. The way the system is as a whole make a trip back to prison incredibly likely.
Theimmortalwhitewolf 1 year ago
@Theimmortalwhitewolf I don't believe it falls on the prison if people decide to commit another crime. Ultimately it falls on the individual.
2PaperTigers 1 year ago
@2PaperTigers Yes but when you are arrested as a teen for 6 or 7 years and you come out without a ged or anything its nearly impossible to find work. so you just end up right back in jail again.
Theimmortalwhitewolf 1 year ago
@Theimmortalwhitewolf If a teen gets convicted for 6 or 7 years, that must a been a pretty big crime. Furthermore it's not that State's fault he or she committed the crime. That's part of the cost of committing the crime. What should the State do? Charge the tax payers's for a free bachelor's for the convict? Go out of their way to give this person more opportunity than other people, who never committed a crime, in unfortunate situations have?
2PaperTigers 1 year ago
@2PaperTigers NO i said GED not a college education. Selling weed will land you in that type of time, also the number of teens tried as adults has increase just about every year in the era of tough on crime. It makes as much since as zero tolerance policies. The Center for Juvenile and Criminal Justice released a story in 2003 about a 13 year old girl in Tuscaloosa, Alabama arrested and detained for 5 weeks for possession of what was thought to be marijuana, but turned out to be oregano.
Theimmortalwhitewolf 1 year ago
@Theimmortalwhitewolf The last part was a fail of a person not doing their job, not an entire system that varies from State to State. I just think that some laws should be reviewed, government funds should be better spent, and prison should be a place that people fear as to avoid it.
2PaperTigers 1 year ago
@2PaperTigers i can give you dozens of stories similar to this because zero tolerance take the judgment out of the hands of the teachers and principles so they cant be blamed for being tougher on one group of people over another, a story off the top of my head was a young boy in kindergarten being suspended for bring a lego toy gun that is about an inch long to class to play with during play time.
Theimmortalwhitewolf 1 year ago
@2PaperTigers Connecticut law states Possession of illegal drugs (including weed)within 1,500 feet of an elementary or secondary school or a licensed day care center = Mandatory 2-year jail sentence running consecutively to jail term imposed for violating other drug possession laws. less then 4 oz anywhere else 1st time offense up to a year anything above 4 oz up to 5 years. and several other states have similar laws.
Theimmortalwhitewolf 1 year ago
@weeecrap They could always after the second or third offense put in one of the breathalyzer in the car that wont start if you are above a limit and just take 5 or 10 bucks a pay check from the person till the system is paid off, give them that or jail time they will choose the breathalyzer every time.
Theimmortalwhitewolf 1 year ago
@2PaperTigers
Just how retarded are you? Really retarded or really retarded?
mecher3k 1 year ago
@mecher3k
Great commentary.
willia3r 1 year ago
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clm51193 1 year ago
zero tolerence policies are garbage. We have one in my school. If you defend yourself from violent attack you recive the same automatic sentence as the agressor. 5-10 day suspenseion. Its RETARDED
JC593 1 year ago
i was exactly the 8000th viewer
JC593 1 year ago
@JC593 Impressive as I'm 7,999th you must be from the future.
clm51193 1 year ago
@clm51193
heheeh that makes u the 8000th and me the 8001 =[
42turk42 1 year ago
Can't expect to much from a bunch of inbred hicks that think Jebus is coming back any second.
Shadowlit001 1 year ago
Cutting staff is completely logical, prisons are businesses in the US, they are run by private companies and they can make more money this way.
OriginalBeast 1 year ago
@OriginalBeast Yeah thats the problem, they are a business and yet we pay taxes into it.... something seem wrong with this picture...?
Konman91316 1 year ago
I say death penalty. Everything above shoplifting, death penalty. Let's see how fast people start shapin' up when their friend's get on death row for stealing a candy bar.
benniquaid 1 year ago
@benniquaid
Hitler and other Crazed Psychopath Dictators would be proud of your thinking.
halcyon0830 1 year ago
The Prison Industry (Put as many people in Prison as possible, no matter what they did, just make sure as many as possible are kept locked in prison & enslaved, and the prison industry (ALL the private prison corporations) gets BILLIONS & BILLIONS in tax-payer money and makes BILLIONS in Profit). The Private Prison Industry is THE Most Profitable and THE Most Criminal of all Industry. It's the reason why marijuana is not legal, it's the reason why USA has the LARGEST prison population on Earth.
halcyon0830 1 year ago 36
@halcyon0830
The student loan scam with Sallie Mae is the most profitable. No effort, no buildings, just be a bloodsucking middleman.
mistacramer 1 year ago
"Stole $200 worth of baby food...jailed for 10 years costing $100k+..."
That's just insane, you don't go around jailing people for 10 years or cutting off their limbs regardless if that baby food was for her baby or not...The state spent 500x more on her imprisonment than the 200 bucks worth of baby feed she stole. Now her baby is going to grow up without her mother, I wonder how the "pro-family" will feel about this...Oh wait, they're the ones locking people up for minor offences.
therock27374 1 year ago 35
@therock27374 yep
elizabethhagar 1 year ago
also does that not make for huge security problems especially for nonviolent offender safety?
dragonflychainsaw 1 year ago
Taking drugs, blasphemy, etc, these are victimless crimes, or at least they don't hurt others (unless you're a fascist crybaby). Waste of money, waste of time, by giving people criminal records- you make them less employable and consequently make them more prone to resorting to risky ways of earning money.
therock27374 1 year ago
Just wait until America begins puting crooked bankers in jail they will need 100 billion in more prisons. I know, that will never happen I am just saying.
derberg19486 1 year ago
80% of prison detainees around the world are economic criminals--they wouldn't be there if not for capitalism (this includes drug users).
The remainder are mentally ill or have developmental issues, and should be receiving treatment and education.
niriop 1 year ago
Our tax dollars at work. Nothing but mis-managed spending across the board. Even when it might count.
yuukisama2001 1 year ago
Yup. America is fucked! It's becoming a Gulag. Thanks to fucking religious assholes.!
Domzdream 1 year ago
or community service is another good punishment
KangaKucha 1 year ago 3
I used to live in Melville GA, and there are literally 5 state prisons, in a star formation, around the city.
KangaKucha 1 year ago
I know Georgia was founded as a prison colony but sheesh.
lordcheetah 1 year ago
how the fuck does that judge sleep at night sentencing someone to 10 years in prison stealing baby formula
YouJussGotCurbed 1 year ago
I reckon if you locked up all conservatives, the felony crime rate would fall to about a 10th!
TheGodlessGuitarist 1 year ago
Sweden spends about the same amount on it's prison system, and has a population equivalent to Georgia. Although there is a difference in structure, facilities and treatment of prisoners.
AbtinX 1 year ago
*They need the death penalty for every offense >10 years that would empty the prisons, criminality would drop, the population would drop dramatically, unemployment would drop. so every one can have more stuff.*
0MoTheG 1 year ago
@0MoTheG strangely that makes alot of sense and is probably the best option lol lets start with the texas politicans
savindian 1 year ago
Private prisons -> Profits becomes a factor in the game.
nuff said
underbjorn 1 year ago 4
@ninetysevenecho “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”
draxthedog 1 year ago
(not being serious) but i think I should go to Georgia and commit a serious crime.. then make a plea deal with the judge that if they just give me $45,000 a year, I wouldn't break the law anymore... if they accepted my offer they could save $16,000 a year by not putting me in prison.. that way i'd be helping the state save money and at the same time I'd be an upstanding citizen.. it'd be a win win situation..
draxthedog 1 year ago
@draxthedog lol why the hell would you keep that promise? If you were a criminal? You take the free money, buy some heron and go do what it is you do, know your not serious but there is serious fault in the logic :)
AbtinX 1 year ago
@AbtinX not all criminals want to buy heroin.. some are good ol' fashion bank robbers that just want to disappear to Tijuana..
draxthedog 1 year ago
@draxthedog lol god bless their hearts
AbtinX 1 year ago
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draxthedog 1 year ago
It makes sense to cut staff if you want the inmates to kill each other.
Rightious23 1 year ago
looks like harsher death penalty is going to be the conservative big solution! robbed a pack of cigarettes? of with is head!
elhacienda 1 year ago
Remind me to NEVER go to Georgia! I've never been arrested, but I'm not chancing it!
Wait till we adopt a private for profit prison system for the whole country! We can look forward to 1 in 13 US citizens in the judicial system!
TruthAndMoreTruth 1 year ago
I am eternally thankful that I do not live in Georgia.
bond284 1 year ago
listen, blacks have known about this for yrs! (white) america just chooses 2 ignore it. & dont u liberal white folks reply with that "it aint about race" crap! 90% of those inmates r black & brown ppl! & go fuck yoself if u tell me wheres my source(something white ppl loooove 2 do!) my source is my EYES assholes.
edupbeat 1 year ago 5
@edupbeat I'm not even saying your wrong, but if your only source is your eyes, then you can go fuck YOURSELF. Of course its about race (who on earth said it wasn't?) but that doesn't exclude you from having to defend your position. And if you think being asked to defend your position deserves a "go fuck yourself", have fun being wrong.
eirefrance 1 year ago
@eirefrance "and if u think asked 2 defend your position deserves a "go fuck yoself", hav fun being wrong". ok, let me try 2 meet u half way as a african american. when we do defend our position(s) we're labeled a "(reverse) racist", ha! i guess i'll have fun being wrong then.
edupbeat 1 year ago
@ninetysevenecho In fact, I think you refute what I assume to be your own original ideas and asert my response by saying: 'if the weed those weak-minded american stereotypes were smoking really was "government regulated" then there wouldn't be a problem.'
P.S. Profanity isn't necessary. It just makes you look silly.
arcsouljah 1 year ago
@ninetysevenecho No, no I think he's right. You are retarded. Or at the very least, not well acquainted with social issues.
I was using the American 'dump on drugs' as an example, to refute your initial statement. A drug addict, for instance, would only be harming himself if use of the substance was legal. It could be regulated, and deaths related to impure substances and blood-borne diseases would be down, a prime example of where your rather sarcastic comment would work well.
arcsouljah 1 year ago
A "war on drugs" is kind of like a "war on gravity".
Richardgwm 1 year ago
It's a business, that's why things are the way they are. Until lobbying in Washington and at state levels is made illegal with severe punishments for breaking the law, nothing will change, not this prison issue, not war not anything.
TheUSMetalhead 1 year ago
Typical conservatives. They want so much BS, but they don't want to foot the bill. If you make fun of liberals for being soft on crime etc, and you say you're a tough guy, then you better be prepared to foot the bill. The bill is the reason we say it doesn't make sense, you didn't want to meet that argument, now you're noticing it costs a fuckload of money, and NOW you're realizing it?
How about realizing the problem before you create it eh conservatives? Might be a good idea?
MyTemporaryAccount88 1 year ago 2
Ana the reason why that is is because the poor public is the fucking punkass prison bitch!
LiBlub1 1 year ago
You'd have less people in prison if they didnt need to steal it would be cheaper to have a decent benefit system.
flake452 1 year ago
Ana,
did I miss it, or did you intentionally avoid saying that
Zell Miller was a Democrat from GA?
[Lt. Gov 75 - 91, & Governor 91-99]
You have a problem with full disclosure?
bobbytiger 1 year ago
@bobbytiger Dixiecrat. One of the old school of Democrats. Back when Democrats were the party of the south, the party of segregation, the party of intolerance. Isn't odd how history works?
TheLogicalGod 1 year ago
@bobbytiger Zell Miller is a Democrat in name only. He is a conservative who supported GW Bush and even spoke at the 2004 Republican National Convention.
brownhornet22 1 year ago
Those Georgian Republicans are dumb! They might want to consider hiring a financial analyst into their State government system. It makes absolutely NO sense to spend almost $200,000.00 over the period of 10years, on a woman who 'shoplifted' baby necessities worth over a mere $200.00. I'm very sure giving her a sentence to do community services and paying a fine would have sufficed.
LeLuneBrune 1 year ago
Not only is it fucking stupid to cut the staff while putting MORE people in prison, but doesn't cutting staff also make the economic health of your state worse since that's new people without jobs now?
DisturbedHavok 1 year ago 46
@DisturbedHavok The same people they are letting go I bet end up in prison because the economies so bad they end up committing crimes.
Nigomsa 1 year ago
FREE TORY DAVIS!!!
KangaKucha 1 year ago
Ana is soooo sexy in this....
mvallieres 1 year ago
@MrDustock first of all, I'm pretty sure Cenk didn't kill a million Armenians, secondly Ana is Armenian yet she is on this show, ironic? Thirdly, your so - called Armenian Genocide is still a matter of debate, so why don't you shut the fuck up and comment on the issue at hand instead of messing around with irrelevant discussion of one single term.. Geez, the only reason they chose the name TYT is because when the group was found , it was to be progressive and it symbolized social change.. fuck
oprichniki12 1 year ago
I live in Ga and POE POE always locking somebody ass up!
mil8710 1 year ago
Detaining people that don't do harm to others is ridiculous and pathetic...
Murderers, rapists, thieves need to punished for the crime they commit.
Locking people up for drugs is very hypocritical in a way if you think about it. Because all you are doing is exposing a normal person to a hostile and domination based environment, where the only way to survive is to team up like a pack of animals and stay alive by any means necessary. It causes the individual to become dysfunctional on release.
dubdarel 1 year ago
ana lost me at "newt gin"
The8347135 1 year ago
im so glad i live in canada, i was caught with weed and a knife. but i was let off beacause i cooperated. thank god for canadian police.
behindtheline40 1 year ago 4
@behindtheline40 dude what were you doing with weed and a knife?
ssuuppeerrbbooyy 1 year ago
@FumingPoliticalPunk Fascism is a latin term that was used in the Roman Empire. The fasist, the symbol a fasism, is an axe with sticks bound around them. I'm sure you can work out the meaning. Nazism is a bit diffrent to fascism. There were other Fascist states around at many times. Just at WWII (europe) alone you have the spainish and italians in europe
Nexius8 1 year ago
@Nexius8 Fascism was not a term used in the Roman Empire. It was invented in the early 20th cen, though it does derive from 'fasces.' It is possible to argue that the Nazi's were left wing and socialist and some respected scholars do so, though the vast majority see it as a right wing. 'Young Turk' does originate from the early 20th cen movement and they were violent radical and quite similar to fascists. Today, it has a more genial connotation of course. It's a good name for the show, I think.
greatleaper 1 year ago
Maybe they should bring back stoning.
DaFawky 1 year ago
So what is wrong with a guaranteed ten year sentence for a person who commits a violent felony? It is a good idea to get all violent criminals off the streets until they are well past thirty when statistically they are less likely to hurt someone else. It also stops them from having children who might be likely to be a burden to society. I do believe we need to make space in our prisons for Bernanke, Geithner, Blankfein, Hank Paulson et al.
Horse237 1 year ago
@Horse237
Does that have anything to do with people whom are serving hard times for non-violent "crimes" like lighting up a joint or growing your own plant?
bohemianwriter1 1 year ago
@MrDustock your're delusional
ew4400 1 year ago
"Land of the Free."
darealdjnutz 1 year ago 93
@darealdjnutz
and Home of the Jailed? :)
Lobos222 1 year ago
@darealdjnutz And the home of the enslaved.
Richardisdorky 1 year ago
these two should be politicians.
MarsRevival 1 year ago
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We NEED President Palin for she will get to the bottom of this PORK spending on our prisons and put an end to this wasteful spending of taxpayer money! President Palin will use tax money in much better ways than Dubya and Obozo!
ecwaufisxtreme 1 year ago
Conservative brilliance at work.
corbinmichael123 1 year ago 2
thank you captain heinsight!
KingUw 1 year ago
They said there are 2 million people in US prisons? 2 million people! Watch Death Wish 3. Why are people so violent? Poor economy. Give them jobs and watch the crime rate go down.
sagemakaiserxl 1 year ago
Great idea cut the staff, don't look for a solution involving letting a few people who commited minor offences back out into the world on parole. Cut the staff, because we all know it's harder to break out of prison when there are less guards.
LastOptionPils 1 year ago
Georgia, kind of like America as a whole but to the exxxxtreeeeeeme. Like take everything stupid about America, stretch it out farther than you think it can go, to the edge of idiocy. Or, perhaps another way to look at it is Georgia is a microcosm of America as a whole in the future. As we complete our decline over the next decade or so from world power with a strong middle class to a miserable failure of a country, the country as a whole will look more and more like what Georgia does now.
genrlcvr 1 year ago
@MrDustock you are trying to make an event that was carried out by a rogue arm of a government the single most defining characteristic they represent. Your representation is false, no matter how you cut it. the young turks are defined by what historians have researched. you, an insignificant person, will not change anyone's mind.
803brando 1 year ago
Did anyone notice the lack of sponsors on this video at the beginnign and end? I knwo it's hwo they make their profit but it was convenient and enjoyable to not have those bookending the video.
AIReject 1 year ago
put em to work in government jobs like working on the roads but without pay or minimal pay.
TehShadower 1 year ago