You also ignore temporary and permanent wound cavities caused by bullets. If caliber and stopping power does not matter then nobody would use rifles or shotguns for anything. And if shot placement does not matter then snipers would not try for head shots.
@43m1garand Obviously you haven't watched the caliber & shot placement videos. Handguns are VERY POOR tools for stopping someone. That's the bottom line. I have not ignored wound cavities as with handguns they are not very good. Penetration is poor as well. Of course rifles are better. And snipers go for head shots because they aren't in danger of being shot at & they have the element of surprise. This is like comparing apples to oranges.
A cranial ocular hit is lights out. A heart or other massive bleeding hit is 15 seconds or so to Hydraulic failure. A good brain stem hit is lights out. The rest take time.
This is simple yet has nothing to do with stopping power if such a thing happens. This is about killing and if you hit these spots everyone will die. Quickly.
@Sigp229TRT No, just because there are “more” .22’s out there than other calibers doesn’t mean there IS going to be more deaths by .22’s than other calibers. I say this because it doesn’t mean that .22’s ARE going to be used more to defend lives than other calibers. AND, I never said anything about the stats. I simply said that .22’s bounce around more. As far as hit what you shoot at… obviously you haven’t watched the calibers and shot placement videos because the average hit ratio is 20%.
I am NOT going to debate calibers because there is NO PROOF that a .40 or .45 is better than a 9mm. And with the low hit ratio, odds are you are NOT going to take someone immediately out of the fight. BOTTOM LINE! In fact, you have ABOUT a 10% chance that IF you do hit someone that you will take them immediately out of the fight. Drink the caliber & shot placement kool-aid if you want… but the facts are that it is all bs. Oh, and that should be MOVE, maybe shoot, and do your best to live!
@brian47374 Well the opposite is also true there is no proof that they are not better either. But this fact is true a .45 will make at least a half inch hole in you give or take and a 9mm much smaller.What does this mean well who knows but a bigger wound channel is never a bad thing now is it. I spose a Higher hit ratio would produce many more fast stops eh!!!
Live is not an option it will happen. Maybe shoot well If I drew my handgun then lethal force is needed. Move always given the time and oppportunity. Nothing is ever the same sometimes you can grab cover other times you need to fight right NOW!!!
@brian47374 No proof that a .40 or .45 is better than a 9mm? The caliber most used by cops is .40. They would use .45s but the .40 allows for a smaller grip for officers with small hands like women.The US military wants to go back to using .45s because the 9mm does not have enough stopping power. US Special Forces use .45s a lot. The 9mm is actually at the bottom end for caliber selection. Shot placement matters the most. Caliber counts too. Shoot someone in the head they are dead instantly.
@brian47374 .22 s are not used more in defence. (And I did not say that) they are not respected that is why more people are shot and die. The average hit ratio with LEO'S and revolvers was about 33 percent back in the day. Then they went to the magical 9mm with lots of ammo and it never really changed. More ammo does not mean more hits. Better skills does!! I have been in the game a long time at 52 so I will go look it up AGAIN and post it again.
In order for any of the Sig P series handguns to go off by dropping them. The trigger would have to be pulled all the way to the rear. They do not fire any other way. That is part of the safety function. This makes decocking them very important. No Old time six gun thumbing the hammer and fingering the trigger. Decocking becomes muscle memory like everything else. Plus they give you a second strike capable handgun. Not a big deal but still present, Glock does not.
@Sigp229TRT When you own more than one type of autoloader you have to pay attention to what you have in your hand before holstering or placing the gun down on a range bench etc. Not so much muscle memory when you carry different guns but rather awareness of what you have and need to do. I've had Sigs, Glocks, XD's all at the same time. I got rid of my Sigs for this very reason. Sigs are GREAT guns!!! And, this is also why Sig made the DAK & LDA 250.
@brian47374 I agree although I carry only SIGs so I for one never wonder I have either a P-245, P-220,P229 or P-239. My duty weapon is a P-229. As for the caliber thing. The number of people killed by .22 caliber weapons has far more to do with the amount of guns in hands out there, than anything to do with stopping power. Everyone has a .22 not everyone has a big bore handgun. I know hunters that have several .22 caliber firearms but no other handguns. This point is wrong.
@Sigp229TRT Regarding more people are killed by .22's every year is due to the fact that a .22 bounces around inside the body more so than other rounds. As far as "stopping power", I don't buy into it when referring to handgun rounds. And, how many deaths are immediate? Less than half the people who are shot die immediately.
@brian47374 So the fact that tons more people are shot with .22s means nothing right Brian?? If you have 5000 .22 shootings and 1000 .45 acp then logic says the .22 will have more deaths. Simple math. Silly statement with no logic used. I said I do not believe in the magic bullet, but to say that a 90 grain hole is the same as a 230 grain hole is silly. Leaving out the whole Kinetic energy argument of course. Hit what you shoot at the results will follow.
personaly i like revolvers just because i am comfy with them and they are nicer looking than some auto not color or anything just the outline and design is nice to me,
hm hab was geiles entdeckt haha
TeganTonjavr831 3 months ago
You also ignore temporary and permanent wound cavities caused by bullets. If caliber and stopping power does not matter then nobody would use rifles or shotguns for anything. And if shot placement does not matter then snipers would not try for head shots.
43m1garand 4 months ago
@43m1garand Obviously you haven't watched the caliber & shot placement videos. Handguns are VERY POOR tools for stopping someone. That's the bottom line. I have not ignored wound cavities as with handguns they are not very good. Penetration is poor as well. Of course rifles are better. And snipers go for head shots because they aren't in danger of being shot at & they have the element of surprise. This is like comparing apples to oranges.
brian47374 4 months ago
he'd trust his life in a glock?!
thepatch717 4 months ago
A cranial ocular hit is lights out. A heart or other massive bleeding hit is 15 seconds or so to Hydraulic failure. A good brain stem hit is lights out. The rest take time.
This is simple yet has nothing to do with stopping power if such a thing happens. This is about killing and if you hit these spots everyone will die. Quickly.
Sigp229TRT 6 months ago
@Sigp229TRT No, just because there are “more” .22’s out there than other calibers doesn’t mean there IS going to be more deaths by .22’s than other calibers. I say this because it doesn’t mean that .22’s ARE going to be used more to defend lives than other calibers. AND, I never said anything about the stats. I simply said that .22’s bounce around more. As far as hit what you shoot at… obviously you haven’t watched the calibers and shot placement videos because the average hit ratio is 20%.
brian47374 6 months ago
I am NOT going to debate calibers because there is NO PROOF that a .40 or .45 is better than a 9mm. And with the low hit ratio, odds are you are NOT going to take someone immediately out of the fight. BOTTOM LINE! In fact, you have ABOUT a 10% chance that IF you do hit someone that you will take them immediately out of the fight. Drink the caliber & shot placement kool-aid if you want… but the facts are that it is all bs. Oh, and that should be MOVE, maybe shoot, and do your best to live!
brian47374 6 months ago
After all, there are no guarantees in any of this!!!
brian47374 6 months ago
@brian47374 Well the opposite is also true there is no proof that they are not better either. But this fact is true a .45 will make at least a half inch hole in you give or take and a 9mm much smaller.What does this mean well who knows but a bigger wound channel is never a bad thing now is it. I spose a Higher hit ratio would produce many more fast stops eh!!!
Duck, Dodge and Run!!!
Sigp229TRT 6 months ago
Live is not an option it will happen. Maybe shoot well If I drew my handgun then lethal force is needed. Move always given the time and oppportunity. Nothing is ever the same sometimes you can grab cover other times you need to fight right NOW!!!
Shoot,Move and Live!!!!!
Sigp229TRT 6 months ago
@brian47374 No proof that a .40 or .45 is better than a 9mm? The caliber most used by cops is .40. They would use .45s but the .40 allows for a smaller grip for officers with small hands like women.The US military wants to go back to using .45s because the 9mm does not have enough stopping power. US Special Forces use .45s a lot. The 9mm is actually at the bottom end for caliber selection. Shot placement matters the most. Caliber counts too. Shoot someone in the head they are dead instantly.
43m1garand 4 months ago
@brian47374 .22 s are not used more in defence. (And I did not say that) they are not respected that is why more people are shot and die. The average hit ratio with LEO'S and revolvers was about 33 percent back in the day. Then they went to the magical 9mm with lots of ammo and it never really changed. More ammo does not mean more hits. Better skills does!! I have been in the game a long time at 52 so I will go look it up AGAIN and post it again.
Shoot,Move and Live!!!!
Sigp229TRT 6 months ago
In order for any of the Sig P series handguns to go off by dropping them. The trigger would have to be pulled all the way to the rear. They do not fire any other way. That is part of the safety function. This makes decocking them very important. No Old time six gun thumbing the hammer and fingering the trigger. Decocking becomes muscle memory like everything else. Plus they give you a second strike capable handgun. Not a big deal but still present, Glock does not.
Shoot,Move.....Live!!!
Sigp229TRT 6 months ago
@Sigp229TRT When you own more than one type of autoloader you have to pay attention to what you have in your hand before holstering or placing the gun down on a range bench etc. Not so much muscle memory when you carry different guns but rather awareness of what you have and need to do. I've had Sigs, Glocks, XD's all at the same time. I got rid of my Sigs for this very reason. Sigs are GREAT guns!!! And, this is also why Sig made the DAK & LDA 250.
brian47374 6 months ago
@brian47374 I agree although I carry only SIGs so I for one never wonder I have either a P-245, P-220,P229 or P-239. My duty weapon is a P-229. As for the caliber thing. The number of people killed by .22 caliber weapons has far more to do with the amount of guns in hands out there, than anything to do with stopping power. Everyone has a .22 not everyone has a big bore handgun. I know hunters that have several .22 caliber firearms but no other handguns. This point is wrong.
Sigp229TRT 6 months ago
@Sigp229TRT Regarding more people are killed by .22's every year is due to the fact that a .22 bounces around inside the body more so than other rounds. As far as "stopping power", I don't buy into it when referring to handgun rounds. And, how many deaths are immediate? Less than half the people who are shot die immediately.
brian47374 6 months ago
@brian47374 So the fact that tons more people are shot with .22s means nothing right Brian?? If you have 5000 .22 shootings and 1000 .45 acp then logic says the .22 will have more deaths. Simple math. Silly statement with no logic used. I said I do not believe in the magic bullet, but to say that a 90 grain hole is the same as a 230 grain hole is silly. Leaving out the whole Kinetic energy argument of course. Hit what you shoot at the results will follow.
Shoot,Move.............Live!!!!
Sigp229TRT 6 months ago
Are you trying to kill people, or stop a threat?
mrrightwing1000 8 months ago
most of those wounds are from 9mm so thats why they arn't dead
driveby14000 8 months ago
Nobody fights with fists anymore. The bad guys will always have guns its not about being a man. I carry because bad guys will always have theirs.
teammazza 11 months ago 8
REMEMBER EVERYBODY.... ANYONE CAN SHOOT SOMEONE FROM ACROS THE ROOM BUT IT TAKES A MAN TO STAB! (OR BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEM!)
JBK6650 1 year ago
1:42 to 1:50 no shit sherlock. I'm sorry i always wanted to say that, good video.
tacosRme 1 year ago
i enjoy your videos brain... thank you...
hiredgun30 1 year ago
personaly i like revolvers just because i am comfy with them and they are nicer looking than some auto not color or anything just the outline and design is nice to me,
12457810able 1 year ago
I am a smaller guy 150 lbs, I do think my G27 (26 size) is much easier to conceal during carry than a G23(19size)
Bushmaster73cuda 1 year ago
magnum research
ETEKEGO4life1214 1 year ago
very professional
juliuskull 2 years ago