Glad I found your site. I think listening to those that debunk "everything" will only help me in my theories. My latest will suggest that, at least some, Planets are capable to "maturing" into Suns. Debunk me, and I welcome any info from your viewers on this (pun) Matter. The beginning idea came from the willingness to accept Hollow Earth theory, and the assumption that indeed we have an inner sun. Is it not possible then, that planets w/polar "holes" all have inner Suns? No need for a crash!
For stars with similar metallicity to the Sun, the theoretical minimum mass the star can have, and still undergo fusion at the core, is estimated to be about 75 times the mass of Jupiter. When the metallicity is very low, however, a recent study of the faintest stars found that the minimum star size seems to be about 8.3% of the solar mass, or about 87 times the mass of Jupiter.
@doug65536 What could cause a change in Mass in a Planet or Star? Has Jupiter's Mass changed, it has definately become bigger in our night skies over the past 30 years. Any thought on this welcomed. Where did you find theis statistic on minimum star size being 8.3 Solar Mass, and what could cause a growth in Mass?
@VibrationsfromMirror Light has some complex properties that can explain the "visual" of jupiter changing. Also, our own atmosphere changes a lot day to day and over time due to effects like pollution. The refraction of our atmosphere and diffusion of light before it reaches you can easily explain changes in what Jupiter looks like. Also, orbits aren't round, the distance between us and Jupiter changes a lot. We orbit the sun MUCH faster than Jupiter (11.8x faster).
illuminati wants to brainwash everyone with satanic symbols, they do it by drawing all attention to something while symbols are brainwashing you in the background.
I don't believe crashing a space probe can ignite Jupiter at all.
A nuclear fusion reaction would have to be kickstarted, which is very hard to achieve. Scientists are working on fusion and they have been able to sustain nuclear fusion for nanoseconds on Earth. Perhaps if they did something similar like that, but on Jupiter to "kick start" , the fusion reaction.
A lot more people believe that massive amounts of nukes are required to ignite Jupiter into a second star. Not many people believe the space probe crashing into Jupiter will ignite it at all. Debunk that Son.
Didn't they realize that a comet crashing into Jupiter causing explosions the size of earth DIDN'T ignite Jupiter but a shitty little space probe will, lol. That's the funniest shit I've heard since the Crust Displacement Theory.
Funny & have another Drink Dude....! Shoemaker Levi-9 didn't light-up Jupiter, nothing we throw at it will.....Other than Bullshit Perhaps, maybe a steaming Trillion Metric Tons ;-)
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well i'll tell you this if jupiter is truly to be a sun there is no way it's moons could be habitibal are we forgeting the zone we're are in called the goldielock zone which these moons are not in
In 3001: The Final Odyssey, Arthur C. Clarke writes that aliens who have traveled the universe creating sentient life forms create Jupiter into a second sun called Lucifer, so that other life forms can live. You don't understand what the illuminati is, or could be. Nothing is impossible, nothing.
Wasnt it shoemaker levy in 1994..and as far as i know, nothing was lit..Some also comes with suggestions whe try with plutonium...Its a joke on ya all..It is pure nonsens..
shoemaker levy had thousind times more energy than our combined atomic arsenal on earth..And someone thinks a little plutonium does the trick..
blow the crud outta your nose, pal, it's clogging your brain. Your information is waaay off. for anyone truely interested, search 'string of pearls comet' as it was intentionally directed into Jupter in '93, igniting the gas giant. it should become a full blown sun in 2012, making its mooons inhabitable
@Crosisborg Actually Jupiter could become a sun... But not anymore. When Jupiter was forming it only needed mass 100 times it's size to ignite the thermonuclear fusion. Yet it didn't. Now Jupiter is shrinking 2 cm. a year and will never become a star.
@PantsThatDontFit you are spot on , the solar system is being manipulated and we are being prepared to be taken off world to be slaves on those moons, IO and Europa in particular..
look up the Georgia guide stones: first law on stone is maintain population under 500,000,000_ they are openly showing us their plans. see for yourself!
If you type (or copy / paste) - Jupiter as a sun - into google and click on the Staryskies (was the first link for me) link it says that if Jupiter was 60x more massive then it would ignite naturally.
Assuming that is true, then there is nothing humans or even Nature can do to get Jupiter to ignite into a secondary sun.
Interesting note Jupiter is 'sun like' in the infrared spectrum, in that it radiates 2x more energy then it gets from the sun. The site explains the extra energy.
Comets crash into the planet all the time. A comet has thousands of more potential than any nuke we have come up with. I didn't see jupiter go up in flames when the last comet hit it. The pressure is too great for any manmade object to ignite into a star.
Go to wikipedia, look up the planet Jupiter. Go figure what gases Jupiter consists of, and also check what the pressure of this Planet is. There's still a possibility for it, if there is something hot and big enough strikeing it to bring up the explosive spark.
this may be a strange thing to say in a consperacy video but this guy has alot of logic and wont beleive anything that he cant see or feel. its the same way with me its the reason im a wiccan
Actully Fission is even worst then fusion. For example the A bomb uses fusion u think it's powerful but it's not. the most powerful nuclear bomb is a Hydrogen Bomb it uses fusion and fission. Since Jupiter is a hydrogen gas planet it is capable to be lit by the object u are talking about because it has uranium and it doesn't need fusion fuel because the explosion of the object will start it and since it's hydrogen it wount be a orange star it will be a white star.
go look at the casco3 satellite videos, that's a NASA telescope that records this galaxy and it's sun, and has dont so for years. You can search the archives.
There is definitely something in our solar system that resembles a winged globe though.
The guy in the video and his arrogant comments, and how with sarcasm he refers to the "illuminati", is as ignorant as the video he's commenting about. Some are the Skull & Bones, founded by William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft in 1832 at Yale.
This is why we monitor what our kids watch or thay get assnine ideas like the 2012 World ending, jupiter becoming a new sun, 10/14/08 UFO glactic federation of light BS!
wow yo if i see or hear of any body trying to make jupiter ignite and make a new sun i will stick their heads so far up their ass that dont know were to aim!! Fuck em up if any of you hear of these fagz yo!!!
I don't know much about the Jupiter thing, but I don't think attacking "conspiracy theorists" is nice. The illuminati do exist. Just go to a gothic church and I guarantee you will see their symbols - the triangle with the eye in the center, the 4 fixed signs of the zodiac, the anchor with the sword etc... You can also see the snake symbolism all over the medical institutions. Anyway, not all of it is none sense
I agree dude, remember that asteroid or meteor thing that crashed into jupiter a couple of years ago?... big explosion visible with a telescope!... why didn't that start a chain reaction...?
why do people always take a stand on stuff they don't know shit about? If you knew any astronomy you wouldn't be wasting so much time on yube, as we all dumbasses as your self do.
History shows that small groups can earn a lot of influential power. Therefore a healthy society strives to create a strong consensus on values, suppressing those who try to create divisions among the people. In this light we understand that conspiracy thinking is neither harmless nor really effective. Intelligent people analyze events intelligently. They look at the structure of things, examine the design of political, social and religious systems, and find the weak holes.
these people Illuminati , Masons and such really exists they do and its not a secret and they do influence peddling inside governments but this is ridiculous accusing people of crazy shit its ridiculous the political class in general takes advantage of the system whatever they are Masons or other shit if you want to resolve something reform or change the system don't attack people
i know this whole thing is bullshit but even if the entire thing worked perfectly, yes even the radiation killing most of us, that much radiation can penetrate miles through the earths crust and kill them if not give them radition sickness. even if it didn't they would come up and die also, the radiation wouldn't just disappear
maybe these "scientists" should go back to 7th grade, beause ill tell you, our 7th grade science books are pretty damn useful
you are right becose the mass in jupiter is to small to be are star dosent matter how we work it out wiht out the right mass it is not going to work .
Hahaha first of all, I LOVED the song at the beginning! Very funny! Jupiter being turned into a sun was a main plot element in the movie, 2010. 2010 had Jupiter starting with a hole in it, and then being born into a second sun *symbolically, this is Lucifer the Lightbringer*. its the year 2009 now. The actual HOLE on JUPITER was recently featured on CNN's homepage a week or two ago. Also, Kentucky basketball was mentioned in the movie. ***They are making big news now***. LOOK FOR MORE CLUES.
nibiru was destroyed in 2003, i think 3 months before the us invaded iraq to gain control of the stargates under baghdad.the annunaki were wiped out so they wouldnt interfere wit the agenda. you can stil see peice of it flying into the sun. and yes jupter WILL be our second sun similiar to the binary solar system in the draco empire. the string of pearls had a lot to do wit this
funny stuff...did you know that illuminati and "Christian" ala Vatican are sharing the same symbolique... :) ...it is the same coin "christian are giving their energi by praing to the same "God" as Illuminanti...if you destroy one side of the coin there will be no koin but to destroy coin you need to destroy both sides at once... it is so cool...love ...
I don t think this has nothing to do with the ilu mminatis yeah right!!! why we give power to those fuckers!!!! thtas the most stupid thing ever, but I belive something is going on with jupiter it was registrated by Nasa if you don t belive me check the page, and I wouldnt be surpreise if something happens ..... we need change haha
That would be strange to have two suns. Although it would distort religion since the Sun played a huge role in faith. That would be funny though. Jupiter being a second sun gives the ironic meaning of "Jesus second coming." Wouldn't that be funny. Not to mention having Jupiter as a Pagan God.
No no, I'm talking about how ridiculous they think that Jupiter can be a star. When I said leave it to science, I meant that conspiracy theorists should just leave it to science to deal with these questions. I'm sorry if I didn't word that right, it was kind of early in the morning, and I was tired :P.
Cassini is at Saturn. That makes it difficult to crash Cassini into Jupiter. Hydrogen fusion converts 4 Hydrogen-atoms into Helium using eaither the Proton-proton-process or the Carbon-cycle. Jupiter would have to be about 75 times more massive to support the proton-proton-process and more massive still to support the Carbon-Cycle.
If Jupiter would be about a dozen times more massive, it could fuse Deuterium and Protium into Helium 3, but it is does not have the mass.
Oh yes ! Cool ! I gotta say igniting Jupiter would take a LOT of mass ! Where they gonna get it ? How d'ya move it ? A probe so won't do it, not even close. A fusion bomb wouldn't cut it. Antimatter.. NIX won't work. Isotopes would become stable and neutral allotropes. Now if ya had a wormhole to the sun... It'd put the goddamned Sun out ! Nix on that ! Methane from a lot of chickens and cows and Bullshitters ? Well perhaps depends on the bullshitter ! Good one man ! Keep rockin' !
Crashing Cassini into Jupiter? Hmm. Well Cassini is orbiting Saturn, not Jupiter, for starters.
Plus, if the energy released from Shoemaker-Levy crashing into Jupiter wasn't enough to spark a fusion reaction, it's doubtful that something as tiny as a space probe crashing into the planet could have this effect.
And, as you say, it's just too damn small to ignite.
I agree with you that it's bullshit. But a fission reaction can start a fusion reaction. That's how a hydrogen bomb works. A fission reaction creates the temperatures needed for fusion to commence. But crashing the probe wouldn't cause a fission reaction and even if it did it wouldn't start a fusion reaction.
55sec then I lost you... WTF? Haha great what you did with the sun ;) sun doesnt go with the science laws does it. Its not real conspiracy? What are there real ones? Your finding it!
A real conspiracy would be something plausible, and the evidence weighs in equally on both sides.
The sun follows science. Simple atoms (Hydrogen = 1p/1e/1n) under heavy pressure (both gravitational and nuclear) allowing nuclear fusion (helium, 2p/2e, flammable), which releases massive energy.
And anyway, physical reactions (smashing two objects above the atomic level) will not directly create nuclear reactions.
If you're going to make videos debunking ridiculous "theories," do one about the hollow earth. I can't believe people buy into that. A hollow planet with holes at the poles large enough for UFOs to fly in an out of? Come on. You'd think someone would have found these holes by. I mean they'd have to be pretty obvious, what with UFOs constantly flying through them. What a bunch of crap.
holy shit, i never heard that one before. there are actually human beings on this planet who genuinely believe that? how do they manage to tie their fucking shoelaces?
Oh the "Lucifer Project" is canceled. Although the bullshit calling is late, it's still worthy of 5 stars. btw, also a Coast to Cost fan so liked your opening music.
I've had 3 separate UFO sightings, and at most, I've concluded that "there really is some weird shit in the sky" - I don't understand how anyone can formulate elaborate government/secret organization/alien invasion conspiracy theories around it. Such is my attitude towards pretty much all conspiracy theories.
Actually a body would only have to be around 13 or so times the size of Jupiter to have enough mass to start fusion, versus having to be as big as our sun. Most stars are smaller then our sun and are low mass red dwarfs. But you are correct, Jupiter doesn't have nearly the mass required to attempt fusion and turn into a star.
Also even if we could somehow do it, the initial energy would pale in comparison to the amount we normally get from the sun every day, so again EPIC CONSPIRACY FAIL.
Actually that is one of the common misconceptions about our sun. 70% of our galaxy's stars are cool, low-mass class M dwarfs, which our sun (class G2) is a luminous giant in comparison to. In fact our sun is larger then 80% of the stars in the galaxy (class K being smaller also and the second most common class next to class M). The misconception is based around the fact famous (and bright) stars are larger then our sun, but are also a very small percentage of the total stars of the galaxy.
The stellar classification of stars and the percentages of each class are pretty consistent across the universe. We perceive larger then sun stars as the majority because they are much easier to see, but really they are the tiny minority (the closest star to us Proxima Centauri, a class M red dwarf is so dim we can't see it with the naked eye). The main reason is the more massive and luminous a star is, the shorter its life is.
Lol, a probe igniting Jupiter into a star? You are right, Crosis, there is so much scientifically wrong with that plan, as a physicist it hurts my ears to hear that people actually believe it.
Although, I'm sure you know this, the fusion chain is a bit more complex, but I'm sure you were just simplifying it to make the point.
Especially when you've already had a massive comet (Shoemaker-Levy 9) just kind of plunk into it with no longlasting effects whatsoever. Crazy, the internet haz it!
And even if we entertained this delusion as being totally valid, it has to be the dumbest plot that the Illuminati ever cooked up! There won't be anything left to enslave or exploit if they carried through with it. And a secret society of 'illuminated ones' can't be that frickin' dumb.
I think the only way to do it would be to slow jupiters rotation down. Im guessing but i can imagine maybe the atoms of jupiter might be enough to cause fusion if they were more tightly packed together, which they would be if its rotation got slowed.
Hrm, is there an established baseline for the mass required? How far short is jupiter from this baseline? Im reasonably sure the earth gains around 80,000 tonnes of mass per annum from space debris which gets caught up in the gravity well... I wonder how much jupiter scoops up annually.. In short, jupiter will probably reach critical mass all by itself at some given date in the future, a date we could compute if we knew the right variables. (current mass, required mass, annual growth etc)
that is a valid point, but im pretty sure it would take so long that our star would go explode and die before it happens, :D. But you also have to consider the gases jupiter is made up from, b/c it needs nearly pure hydrogen as fuel in a star, so im pretty sure no matter what, no planetary mass can turn into a star b/c of lack of hydrogen.
Well, if all large objects start life with the "snowball" effect, surely the sun was about the size of jupiter once. Perhaps the sun coalesced (sp?) in a much more hydrogen rich envrionment ( it was closer to the big bang) than jupiter is doing, but surely the process is basically the same.
If jupiter cannot possibly gain enough mass to become a star, then how are future stars going to be born? Perhaps there is already a fall off in the birth rate of stars which might be detectable.
All i know is that stars are formed from trillions of tiny particles being compressed together in nebula clouds. They slowly swirl and gain mass and gravity until they form a star. The star lives and dies and explodes and spews out its remaining matter via law of conservation of energy/matter. There fore giving the ability to having new stars form from the remnants of old stars.
Agreed, I just wanted to point out that one of these given young proto-stars must at some early point in its life attain a mass similar to jupiter before going on to gain enough to ignite. I imagine this happens faster in an environment which is rich in source material, like a nebula, however the process should work almost anywhere there is source material to feed the snowball effect. Ergo, jupiter should be growing and should eventually become a star.
yes, agreed, but at that point such a small percentage of the mass would be jupter it wouldnt really matter and then all the other planets and sun would be sucked into it. so in the long run it doesnt matter.
I would imagine there is an awfully large amount of mass around which has a destiny of becoming part of jupiter. I think the abstract object we refer to as jupiter will still be the same abstract object regardless how its mass grows or shrinks... unless of course its in perfect equilibrium which I some how doubt.
No, not at all. Its compleatly batshit insane. The added mass would destabilize the solar system (you need more mass to ignite Jupiter, no other way, its basic physics). The added heat would kill all life on earth since the avarage temprature of the planet would rise up leathal levels.
Glad I found your site. I think listening to those that debunk "everything" will only help me in my theories. My latest will suggest that, at least some, Planets are capable to "maturing" into Suns. Debunk me, and I welcome any info from your viewers on this (pun) Matter. The beginning idea came from the willingness to accept Hollow Earth theory, and the assumption that indeed we have an inner sun. Is it not possible then, that planets w/polar "holes" all have inner Suns? No need for a crash!
VibrationsfromMirror 5 months ago
For stars with similar metallicity to the Sun, the theoretical minimum mass the star can have, and still undergo fusion at the core, is estimated to be about 75 times the mass of Jupiter. When the metallicity is very low, however, a recent study of the faintest stars found that the minimum star size seems to be about 8.3% of the solar mass, or about 87 times the mass of Jupiter.
doug65536 8 months ago
@doug65536 What could cause a change in Mass in a Planet or Star? Has Jupiter's Mass changed, it has definately become bigger in our night skies over the past 30 years. Any thought on this welcomed. Where did you find theis statistic on minimum star size being 8.3 Solar Mass, and what could cause a growth in Mass?
VibrationsfromMirror 5 months ago
@VibrationsfromMirror Light has some complex properties that can explain the "visual" of jupiter changing. Also, our own atmosphere changes a lot day to day and over time due to effects like pollution. The refraction of our atmosphere and diffusion of light before it reaches you can easily explain changes in what Jupiter looks like. Also, orbits aren't round, the distance between us and Jupiter changes a lot. We orbit the sun MUCH faster than Jupiter (11.8x faster).
doug65536 4 months ago
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doug65536 4 months ago
@doug65536 Shiga, David (2006-08-17). "Mass cut-off between stars and brown dwarfs revealed". New Scientist.
doug65536 4 months ago
illuminati wants to brainwash everyone with satanic symbols, they do it by drawing all attention to something while symbols are brainwashing you in the background.
vyrewatch12321 10 months ago
Exactly, Jupiter doesn't have enough mass to generate fusion.
Klute1977 1 year ago
I don't believe crashing a space probe can ignite Jupiter at all.
A nuclear fusion reaction would have to be kickstarted, which is very hard to achieve. Scientists are working on fusion and they have been able to sustain nuclear fusion for nanoseconds on Earth. Perhaps if they did something similar like that, but on Jupiter to "kick start" , the fusion reaction.
mysql0 1 year ago
A lot more people believe that massive amounts of nukes are required to ignite Jupiter into a second star. Not many people believe the space probe crashing into Jupiter will ignite it at all. Debunk that Son.
mysql0 1 year ago
Didn't they realize that a comet crashing into Jupiter causing explosions the size of earth DIDN'T ignite Jupiter but a shitty little space probe will, lol. That's the funniest shit I've heard since the Crust Displacement Theory.
nate47362 1 year ago
Funny & have another Drink Dude....! Shoemaker Levi-9 didn't light-up Jupiter, nothing we throw at it will.....Other than Bullshit Perhaps, maybe a steaming Trillion Metric Tons ;-)
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zxxxcxx 1 year ago
well i'll tell you this if jupiter is truly to be a sun there is no way it's moons could be habitibal are we forgeting the zone we're are in called the goldielock zone which these moons are not in
wahteenay 1 year ago
i see jupiter getting brighter tonight. i stare at it with awe!
potheticman 1 year ago
In 3001: The Final Odyssey, Arthur C. Clarke writes that aliens who have traveled the universe creating sentient life forms create Jupiter into a second sun called Lucifer, so that other life forms can live. You don't understand what the illuminati is, or could be. Nothing is impossible, nothing.
666ouroboro 1 year ago
Hey I haven't heard THIS ONE!! LOL!! Jupiter?!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
Eternalsummersong 1 year ago
thanks but i can't fined it
vishous303 1 year ago
It depends on how to look at it.
Don't be so cocksure.
creanus 1 year ago
haha your an idiot
noblewulfff 1 year ago
whats the song
vishous303 1 year ago
@vishous303 Coast to COast by Cindy Lora
Crosisborg 1 year ago
Wasnt it shoemaker levy in 1994..and as far as i know, nothing was lit..Some also comes with suggestions whe try with plutonium...Its a joke on ya all..It is pure nonsens..
shoemaker levy had thousind times more energy than our combined atomic arsenal on earth..And someone thinks a little plutonium does the trick..
ppedalen 1 year ago
blow the crud outta your nose, pal, it's clogging your brain. Your information is waaay off. for anyone truely interested, search 'string of pearls comet' as it was intentionally directed into Jupter in '93, igniting the gas giant. it should become a full blown sun in 2012, making its mooons inhabitable
PantsThatDontFit 1 year ago
@PantsThatDontFit Dude you are on drugs, Jupiter becoming a sun is impossible.
Crosisborg 1 year ago
@Crosisborg Actually Jupiter could become a sun... But not anymore. When Jupiter was forming it only needed mass 100 times it's size to ignite the thermonuclear fusion. Yet it didn't. Now Jupiter is shrinking 2 cm. a year and will never become a star.
XendoZA 1 year ago
@PantsThatDontFit you are spot on , the solar system is being manipulated and we are being prepared to be taken off world to be slaves on those moons, IO and Europa in particular..
SovereignBeing 1 year ago
@PantsThatDontFit You site is down, so posting here. If you have a new site please send me a personal message.
VibrationsfromMirror 5 months ago
look up the Georgia guide stones: first law on stone is maintain population under 500,000,000_ they are openly showing us their plans. see for yourself!
zombiex123456789 2 years ago
If you type (or copy / paste) - Jupiter as a sun - into google and click on the Staryskies (was the first link for me) link it says that if Jupiter was 60x more massive then it would ignite naturally.
Assuming that is true, then there is nothing humans or even Nature can do to get Jupiter to ignite into a secondary sun.
Interesting note Jupiter is 'sun like' in the infrared spectrum, in that it radiates 2x more energy then it gets from the sun. The site explains the extra energy.
Knightyme 2 years ago
Comets crash into the planet all the time. A comet has thousands of more potential than any nuke we have come up with. I didn't see jupiter go up in flames when the last comet hit it. The pressure is too great for any manmade object to ignite into a star.
Good debunk!!
evoteck 2 years ago
There are people that actually thing crashing a space probe into a planet will cause that planet to ignite into a sun?
Have you confirmed they actually believe this? It's got to be people messing around . . . doesn't it? I mean . . .
Okay I guess it's possible for people to be that stupid . .
Anyway, what's that song at the very beginning of the video?+++++++++++++++++
technologysucks 2 years ago
Yes, some actually believe it. The song is COast to COast by Cindy Lora
Crosisborg 2 years ago
@technologysucks
Go to wikipedia, look up the planet Jupiter. Go figure what gases Jupiter consists of, and also check what the pressure of this Planet is. There's still a possibility for it, if there is something hot and big enough strikeing it to bring up the explosive spark.
greetz
TheMapperBeatz 1 year ago
this may be a strange thing to say in a consperacy video but this guy has alot of logic and wont beleive anything that he cant see or feel. its the same way with me its the reason im a wiccan
SilverPolarBear1 2 years ago
@SilverPolarBear1 If you're a wiccan then you're proving my beliefe that all Wiccans are huge-ass retards :D
mm3guy 1 year ago
wooo lets totaly rocket a mach to jupiter rofl
shaneyd38 2 years ago
And you should know that red stars are not actully the hottest white stars are the hottest
Krayz8o8 2 years ago
Actully Fission is even worst then fusion. For example the A bomb uses fusion u think it's powerful but it's not. the most powerful nuclear bomb is a Hydrogen Bomb it uses fusion and fission. Since Jupiter is a hydrogen gas planet it is capable to be lit by the object u are talking about because it has uranium and it doesn't need fusion fuel because the explosion of the object will start it and since it's hydrogen it wount be a orange star it will be a white star.
Krayz8o8 2 years ago
go look at the casco3 satellite videos, that's a NASA telescope that records this galaxy and it's sun, and has dont so for years. You can search the archives.
There is definitely something in our solar system that resembles a winged globe though.
The guy in the video and his arrogant comments, and how with sarcasm he refers to the "illuminati", is as ignorant as the video he's commenting about. Some are the Skull & Bones, founded by William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft in 1832 at Yale.
philonetic 2 years ago
This is why we monitor what our kids watch or thay get assnine ideas like the 2012 World ending, jupiter becoming a new sun, 10/14/08 UFO glactic federation of light BS!
DDDell111 2 years ago
these theorists been watching too much space oddesey 2
tagaEskinita 2 years ago
well done we have to watch old movies WITH our kids!
DDDell111 2 years ago
god is real!!!!
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TombKillerBurry 2 years ago 2
Jupiter doesn't have the mass to produce fusion. Thus, it can't be turned into a Star (Sun). Great stuff!! It's nice to see someone with a 'brain'.
crazykb 2 years ago
You pass!!!
triplepogi2009 2 years ago
wow yo if i see or hear of any body trying to make jupiter ignite and make a new sun i will stick their heads so far up their ass that dont know were to aim!! Fuck em up if any of you hear of these fagz yo!!!
hobbs312 2 years ago
I don't know much about the Jupiter thing, but I don't think attacking "conspiracy theorists" is nice. The illuminati do exist. Just go to a gothic church and I guarantee you will see their symbols - the triangle with the eye in the center, the 4 fixed signs of the zodiac, the anchor with the sword etc... You can also see the snake symbolism all over the medical institutions. Anyway, not all of it is none sense
KosmiKo77713 2 years ago
I agree dude, remember that asteroid or meteor thing that crashed into jupiter a couple of years ago?... big explosion visible with a telescope!... why didn't that start a chain reaction...?
Funk0001 2 years ago
As Penn and Teller would say...
FredMed22 2 years ago
it mite be true or not we will find out soon
radeshnarine 2 years ago
I mean fusion. But I guess he mentioned that
zakkfilms 2 years ago
The sun dosn't even burn, it uses nuclear fission so it wouldn't be a real star
zakkfilms 2 years ago
Apparently the size of Jupiter is as large as any planet can become, if you fed more mass into jupiter its size would not increase.
CincinnatusSPQR 2 years ago
why do people always take a stand on stuff they don't know shit about? If you knew any astronomy you wouldn't be wasting so much time on yube, as we all dumbasses as your self do.
mrkatamura 2 years ago
I did a single random fact check: Jupiter must be *at least* 75 times its current size to sustain a fusion reaction in its core.
Awesome! You pass. ;)
bkwalk 2 years ago
History shows that small groups can earn a lot of influential power. Therefore a healthy society strives to create a strong consensus on values, suppressing those who try to create divisions among the people. In this light we understand that conspiracy thinking is neither harmless nor really effective. Intelligent people analyze events intelligently. They look at the structure of things, examine the design of political, social and religious systems, and find the weak holes.
Menace3434 2 years ago
these people Illuminati , Masons and such really exists they do and its not a secret and they do influence peddling inside governments but this is ridiculous accusing people of crazy shit its ridiculous the political class in general takes advantage of the system whatever they are Masons or other shit if you want to resolve something reform or change the system don't attack people
Menace3434 2 years ago
i know this whole thing is bullshit but even if the entire thing worked perfectly, yes even the radiation killing most of us, that much radiation can penetrate miles through the earths crust and kill them if not give them radition sickness. even if it didn't they would come up and die also, the radiation wouldn't just disappear
maybe these "scientists" should go back to 7th grade, beause ill tell you, our 7th grade science books are pretty damn useful
BackToPass 2 years ago
i bet he is a federal debunker,
thats his job to be stupid.
kanundrum180 2 years ago
Oh you gotta be kidding. I heard of a lot of crazy things before but I never heard this bullshit. This is really pitiful people would believe this...
MercuryRis 2 years ago
you are right becose the mass in jupiter is to small to be are star dosent matter how we work it out wiht out the right mass it is not going to work .
planetdefence 2 years ago
Hahaha first of all, I LOVED the song at the beginning! Very funny! Jupiter being turned into a sun was a main plot element in the movie, 2010. 2010 had Jupiter starting with a hole in it, and then being born into a second sun *symbolically, this is Lucifer the Lightbringer*. its the year 2009 now. The actual HOLE on JUPITER was recently featured on CNN's homepage a week or two ago. Also, Kentucky basketball was mentioned in the movie. ***They are making big news now***. LOOK FOR MORE CLUES.
Adahondeayenh 2 years ago
nibiruuuuuuu bohemian groooooooveeee
jeremythunder 2 years ago
nibiru was destroyed in 2003, i think 3 months before the us invaded iraq to gain control of the stargates under baghdad.the annunaki were wiped out so they wouldnt interfere wit the agenda. you can stil see peice of it flying into the sun. and yes jupter WILL be our second sun similiar to the binary solar system in the draco empire. the string of pearls had a lot to do wit this
kingklick77 2 years ago
You suffer from serious delusions. Seek therapy now.
Crosisborg 2 years ago
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u suffer from serious ignorance. seek truth now
kingklick77 2 years ago
fuck you psycho
Crosisborg 2 years ago
You should call for backup.
KSH2006 2 years ago
I highly doubt anything you say ever makes sense to anyone but yourself
jjohnson3tc 2 years ago
This fella in a way reminds me of ultraforge ( don't ask, you don't wanna know ) they both tell it like it is. Sorry flakes, just the way it is.
ReneeNme 2 years ago
he wrote that comment at a video about pyramids
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Jesus is just as fake as the concepts in this video
l33715s0fck1ngpr0 2 years ago
Hey it's Earth day this Sat. After we turn out the lights, if everyone was to fart at the same time & light them with lighters..........
The aliens would be freaked out & we could say we torched the moon!
dumfree254 2 years ago
Nice... But, wouldn't they be more intelligent than us? I do know, they certainly won't ride Niburu.
Niburu=Crap.
triplepogi2009 2 years ago
I dont trust this guy.
KungFatty 2 years ago
me either
emuholic 2 years ago
* I dont trust this guy.
Why ? You don't care for somebody to come along crushing half baked stupid assed theories ? Too bad, you're so sad.
ReneeNme 2 years ago 2
Thanks for being a voice of/for reason.
Wackawacka2929 2 years ago
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dude ur a homo... this video is lame..
sotathug941 3 years ago
Dude you have 1 subcriber (your mom) and 2 videos that have no views and no ratings. Talk about lame.
Crosisborg 3 years ago
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i guess your the owner.. u suck dog, and u look retarded as hell... lol @ at this homo
sotathug941 3 years ago
nukes can be fusion or fission bomb
brutus149 3 years ago
Yes but its still impossible for them to be used to ignite a sun.
Crosisborg 3 years ago
funny stuff...did you know that illuminati and "Christian" ala Vatican are sharing the same symbolique... :) ...it is the same coin "christian are giving their energi by praing to the same "God" as Illuminanti...if you destroy one side of the coin there will be no koin but to destroy coin you need to destroy both sides at once... it is so cool...love ...
outerroman 3 years ago
I don t think this has nothing to do with the ilu mminatis yeah right!!! why we give power to those fuckers!!!! thtas the most stupid thing ever, but I belive something is going on with jupiter it was registrated by Nasa if you don t belive me check the page, and I wouldnt be surpreise if something happens ..... we need change haha
blackestigiamoon 3 years ago
LOL
This was a new crackpot theory to me.
Another reason why fusion couldn't happen in Jupiter is because Jupiter's core is made of solid stuff like iron. Only the outer parts are hydrogen.
suominousuun 3 years ago
Just kidding, I'm not even religious.
tiecuando 3 years ago
I think you are illuminati trying to throw us christians off your trail.
tiecuando 3 years ago
Jesus tapdancing Christ, how do people come up with this shit. I want what they're smoking!
rekeltje 3 years ago
I for one would like to be the first to welcome and thank our Illuminati masters !!!!!
Adipatus 3 years ago
everyone knows pluto is the real nibiru. why do you think they took it off our list of planets???
Cmorenoww 3 years ago
As somone who knows astronomy all to well this idea make me want to cry........from laughing so damn hard.
Herufaia 3 years ago
lame ass video lol
dredman813 3 years ago
LOL all of yours are intellectually void and have 1 star. LMAO
Crosisborg 3 years ago
That would be strange to have two suns. Although it would distort religion since the Sun played a huge role in faith. That would be funny though. Jupiter being a second sun gives the ironic meaning of "Jesus second coming." Wouldn't that be funny. Not to mention having Jupiter as a Pagan God.
AstroMen2911 3 years ago
Lol, for a guy who's knowledge of outer space and the birth of stars is fair. I have to say this seems so ridiculous :P.
Just leave it to science conspiracy theorists, this is out of your league.
ldg1414 3 years ago
really now? SO if you think Jupiter can be turned into a star, I along with Stephen Hawkings am waiting for your video.
Crosisborg 3 years ago
No no, I'm talking about how ridiculous they think that Jupiter can be a star. When I said leave it to science, I meant that conspiracy theorists should just leave it to science to deal with these questions. I'm sorry if I didn't word that right, it was kind of early in the morning, and I was tired :P.
ldg1414 3 years ago
Also the way I punctuated that sentence, was not the best.
ldg1414 3 years ago
actually, the gravity on Jupiter is so massive that anything nearing the surface would be crushed down to the molecular level.
i know this from personal experience. i and my friends tried to stop over there on our way to Earth. this planet is truly wicked
genie0390 3 years ago
Cassini is at Saturn. That makes it difficult to crash Cassini into Jupiter. Hydrogen fusion converts 4 Hydrogen-atoms into Helium using eaither the Proton-proton-process or the Carbon-cycle. Jupiter would have to be about 75 times more massive to support the proton-proton-process and more massive still to support the Carbon-Cycle.
If Jupiter would be about a dozen times more massive, it could fuse Deuterium and Protium into Helium 3, but it is does not have the mass.
Walabio 3 years ago
not gonna happen anytime soon then.
simonodell 3 years ago
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this guy is a virgin.
mikepuerto 3 years ago
he has kids.......fag
Disturbed928 3 years ago
you must be there "second dad". riding the dudes nuts hard hah? lol. your lame.
mikepuerto 3 years ago
ha you dont know me.....or him....fuck off
Disturbed928 3 years ago
do you listen to Skeptoid?
TristanPEJ 3 years ago
faunflynn 3 years ago
lol I've heard some fucked up tinfoiler stories, but this one is one of the craziest....wtf???
AnarchyBegins 3 years ago
Dude, I'm pretty sure that's exactly what the Illuminati would say to trick us.... Just sayin... I'm gonna go ahead and build my bunker now.
jakencook 3 years ago
Yeah i'm going to get up my illuminati brethren and get my reptile servants to nuke jupiter, brilliant.
JACKtheRIPP3R189 3 years ago
I heard about both theories but never that they were connected.
dlld77 3 years ago
concerning the starting of fusion by fission - a H-Bomb does just that afaik
overall of course the whole story is bs
nexxus230 3 years ago
My all time favorite stupid conspiracy theory is: CHEMTRAILS! They're trying very slowly to kill us all!
freedomsfart 3 years ago
Crashing Cassini into Jupiter? Hmm. Well Cassini is orbiting Saturn, not Jupiter, for starters.
Plus, if the energy released from Shoemaker-Levy crashing into Jupiter wasn't enough to spark a fusion reaction, it's doubtful that something as tiny as a space probe crashing into the planet could have this effect.
And, as you say, it's just too damn small to ignite.
thatgaybloke 3 years ago
I agree with you that it's bullshit. But a fission reaction can start a fusion reaction. That's how a hydrogen bomb works. A fission reaction creates the temperatures needed for fusion to commence. But crashing the probe wouldn't cause a fission reaction and even if it did it wouldn't start a fusion reaction.
01eximius 3 years ago
There is still a society devoted to the proposition that the earth is flat.
There are a LOT of gullible, paranoid people out there.
plato12000 3 years ago
55sec then I lost you... WTF? Haha great what you did with the sun ;) sun doesnt go with the science laws does it. Its not real conspiracy? What are there real ones? Your finding it!
dsi3 3 years ago
A real conspiracy would be something plausible, and the evidence weighs in equally on both sides.
The sun follows science. Simple atoms (Hydrogen = 1p/1e/1n) under heavy pressure (both gravitational and nuclear) allowing nuclear fusion (helium, 2p/2e, flammable), which releases massive energy.
And anyway, physical reactions (smashing two objects above the atomic level) will not directly create nuclear reactions.
onijester56 3 years ago
Did any of them pass high school?
hairface13 3 years ago
Oh god I hate these people
ghazzter 3 years ago
If you're going to make videos debunking ridiculous "theories," do one about the hollow earth. I can't believe people buy into that. A hollow planet with holes at the poles large enough for UFOs to fly in an out of? Come on. You'd think someone would have found these holes by. I mean they'd have to be pretty obvious, what with UFOs constantly flying through them. What a bunch of crap.
cjclifford 3 years ago
holy shit, i never heard that one before. there are actually human beings on this planet who genuinely believe that? how do they manage to tie their fucking shoelaces?
TJay9000 3 years ago 2
This particular "Illuminati" that conspiracy theorists keep bringing has been disbanded since the mid-1800's.
geroldkid 3 years ago
Jupiters greater gravity would just crush the damn thing once it got to close.
Erech01 3 years ago
Oh the "Lucifer Project" is canceled. Although the bullshit calling is late, it's still worthy of 5 stars. btw, also a Coast to Cost fan so liked your opening music.
AnethSvartalf 3 years ago
I've had 3 separate UFO sightings, and at most, I've concluded that "there really is some weird shit in the sky" - I don't understand how anyone can formulate elaborate government/secret organization/alien invasion conspiracy theories around it. Such is my attitude towards pretty much all conspiracy theories.
richie3622 3 years ago
Conspiracy theorists know jack fucking shit about science? Knock me over with a feather.
eightfootmanchild 3 years ago
Actually a body would only have to be around 13 or so times the size of Jupiter to have enough mass to start fusion, versus having to be as big as our sun. Most stars are smaller then our sun and are low mass red dwarfs. But you are correct, Jupiter doesn't have nearly the mass required to attempt fusion and turn into a star.
Also even if we could somehow do it, the initial energy would pale in comparison to the amount we normally get from the sun every day, so again EPIC CONSPIRACY FAIL.
brianblackberry 3 years ago
While3 you are correct about the mass needed, you are incorrect about our sun being larger than most. Our sun is considered small.
Crosisborg 3 years ago
Actually that is one of the common misconceptions about our sun. 70% of our galaxy's stars are cool, low-mass class M dwarfs, which our sun (class G2) is a luminous giant in comparison to. In fact our sun is larger then 80% of the stars in the galaxy (class K being smaller also and the second most common class next to class M). The misconception is based around the fact famous (and bright) stars are larger then our sun, but are also a very small percentage of the total stars of the galaxy.
brianblackberry 3 years ago
Ok so for some reason you were limiting your comment to 1/10,000,000,000th of our universe. I am talking about our universe.
Crosisborg 3 years ago
The stellar classification of stars and the percentages of each class are pretty consistent across the universe. We perceive larger then sun stars as the majority because they are much easier to see, but really they are the tiny minority (the closest star to us Proxima Centauri, a class M red dwarf is so dim we can't see it with the naked eye). The main reason is the more massive and luminous a star is, the shorter its life is.
brianblackberry 3 years ago
the sun isnt small, its average
eagleclaww 3 years ago
Aliens are everywhere *chuckle*
Yeah you are right...it makes no sense!
masticina 3 years ago
Lol, a probe igniting Jupiter into a star? You are right, Crosis, there is so much scientifically wrong with that plan, as a physicist it hurts my ears to hear that people actually believe it.
Although, I'm sure you know this, the fusion chain is a bit more complex, but I'm sure you were just simplifying it to make the point.
ThetaOmega 3 years ago
This is YouTube, get too far into how ice is made and people get confused.
Crosisborg 3 years ago
This is America; the truth is whatever we feel that is should be.
SomeBSUTubeName 3 years ago
it (not is)
SomeBSUTubeName 3 years ago
'Stars dont work of fision', but hopefully man will soon! Great debunk Crosis, 5* video.
BMS1974 3 years ago
Someone please tell me how crashing a tiny satellite into Jupiter would make it turn into a star.
Pretty sure I missed this part of class.
HeadoftheHydra 3 years ago
Especially when you've already had a massive comet (Shoemaker-Levy 9) just kind of plunk into it with no longlasting effects whatsoever. Crazy, the internet haz it!
magick205 3 years ago
dunno..: s..aww
nademochizou 3 years ago
And even if we entertained this delusion as being totally valid, it has to be the dumbest plot that the Illuminati ever cooked up! There won't be anything left to enslave or exploit if they carried through with it. And a secret society of 'illuminated ones' can't be that frickin' dumb.
TheNeocatZone 3 years ago
Where do they come up with this stuff??
joshstevens76 3 years ago
Chinese whispers.
simonodell 3 years ago
You should begin a video series. You know about once a week debunking one bullshit theory after another :-)
bcj999 3 years ago
I concur ^^
simonodell 3 years ago
^^wow
nademochizou 3 years ago
no mu ^^
simonodell 3 years ago
I think the only way to do it would be to slow jupiters rotation down. Im guessing but i can imagine maybe the atoms of jupiter might be enough to cause fusion if they were more tightly packed together, which they would be if its rotation got slowed.
simonodell 3 years ago
wouldnt help but at least its a better plan than the one they came up with.
Crosisborg 3 years ago
Its probably impossible anyway, not without being able to create some serious gravity effect.
simonodell 3 years ago
it does not have enough mass, eom
pyrrho314 3 years ago
Hrm, is there an established baseline for the mass required? How far short is jupiter from this baseline? Im reasonably sure the earth gains around 80,000 tonnes of mass per annum from space debris which gets caught up in the gravity well... I wonder how much jupiter scoops up annually.. In short, jupiter will probably reach critical mass all by itself at some given date in the future, a date we could compute if we knew the right variables. (current mass, required mass, annual growth etc)
simonodell 3 years ago
that is a valid point, but im pretty sure it would take so long that our star would go explode and die before it happens, :D. But you also have to consider the gases jupiter is made up from, b/c it needs nearly pure hydrogen as fuel in a star, so im pretty sure no matter what, no planetary mass can turn into a star b/c of lack of hydrogen.
PsychoFlunky 3 years ago
Well, if all large objects start life with the "snowball" effect, surely the sun was about the size of jupiter once. Perhaps the sun coalesced (sp?) in a much more hydrogen rich envrionment ( it was closer to the big bang) than jupiter is doing, but surely the process is basically the same.
If jupiter cannot possibly gain enough mass to become a star, then how are future stars going to be born? Perhaps there is already a fall off in the birth rate of stars which might be detectable.
simonodell 3 years ago
All i know is that stars are formed from trillions of tiny particles being compressed together in nebula clouds. They slowly swirl and gain mass and gravity until they form a star. The star lives and dies and explodes and spews out its remaining matter via law of conservation of energy/matter. There fore giving the ability to having new stars form from the remnants of old stars.
PsychoFlunky 3 years ago
Agreed, I just wanted to point out that one of these given young proto-stars must at some early point in its life attain a mass similar to jupiter before going on to gain enough to ignite. I imagine this happens faster in an environment which is rich in source material, like a nebula, however the process should work almost anywhere there is source material to feed the snowball effect. Ergo, jupiter should be growing and should eventually become a star.
simonodell 3 years ago
yes, agreed, but at that point such a small percentage of the mass would be jupter it wouldnt really matter and then all the other planets and sun would be sucked into it. so in the long run it doesnt matter.
xF
PsychoFlunky 3 years ago
I would imagine there is an awfully large amount of mass around which has a destiny of becoming part of jupiter. I think the abstract object we refer to as jupiter will still be the same abstract object regardless how its mass grows or shrinks... unless of course its in perfect equilibrium which I some how doubt.
simonodell 3 years ago
i think the probe wouldn't even crash, i would just kinda do thump! since the surface is ambiguous
jem2738 3 years ago
First it was Saturn, now it's Jupiter? Fuck sakes,
On a plus side, you could put your weed in there.
TokenDrone 3 years ago
2001 and 2010 were great movies! But for fucks sake... People are nuts.
freedom0f5peech 3 years ago
of course its not possible to do this in real life.
a much easier way to get more sunlight is to build a huge mirror in space to get more of the sun's light to earth
BorgHub 3 years ago
crosisborg is a reptilian illuminati agent
lucifer90028 3 years ago
what's wrong with having a second, much smaller, sun?
it would be great for agriculture
BorgHub 3 years ago
No, not at all. Its compleatly batshit insane. The added mass would destabilize the solar system (you need more mass to ignite Jupiter, no other way, its basic physics). The added heat would kill all life on earth since the avarage temprature of the planet would rise up leathal levels.
UnknownRex 3 years ago
theoretically if you compress jupiter you could turn it into a star. so it would be a really small sun and would pose no danger to earth.
this idea was shown in the film "space odyseey 2" as well as in an episode of "stargate sg1"
in both they showed it as being a good thing for earth
BorgHub 3 years ago
Im thinking just slow its rotation down, the lower momentum of the particles would cause them to pack more tightly.
simonodell 3 years ago
Oh, crosisorg is just one of the reptilians, trying to cover up. I base this on absolutely nothing, therefore it's true.
rippemies 3 years ago