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  • Using the army to build roads and bridges ain't such a bad idea I guess...thats a nazi idea we should pick up instead of fascism and mass religious endoctrination.

  • You have to admit this is inspiring and refreshing! The first 20 minutes are a pure ode to "joie de vivre"!

  • People sometimes compare Russian Communism and Nazism.. But 1917 revolution was not more than a coup accomplished only by a little number of bolchevists, with no popular support, and triggered a civil war during which millions of USSR own people were killed. In Germany Hitler was elected and really had an enthousiastic support of around 80% of the people, which is totally amazing and unleashed a german economic and patriotic miracle. Even if it all ended in the disaster of WW2, naturally.

  • @TheLearningFish "support of around 80% of the people"

    Where do you get that number?

    Hitler never got finished higher than 2nd in a free election, or more than 35% of the vote.

  • EUROPE FOR EUROPEANS!

  • @longlivevictory Nothing like seeing European nationalism in a Triumph of The Will comment section.

  • EUROPE FOR THE EUROPEANS!

    PRO WHITE EUROPE!

  • EUROPE FOR THE EUROPEANS!

    GREETINGS FROM  HOLLAND

  • Hm scary to see how popular hitler truly was. The only reason that such horrible things happened during WW2.

  • @TheStalkingShadow May I introduce you to Stalin & Tojo?

  • Also, the guy wasn't even a German, but an Austrian maybe...or maybe a half/Hungarian Jew. No one really knows as his background was very murky and covered up...sound familiar?

  • @catholicmaxima Officialy he was an ethnic austrian. But there are rumours that he was 1/4 jewish or czech.

  • Anyone wanting some insight into this singularly sick and depraved man need only read "Hitler's Niece" by Ron Hansen. Knowing his perverted background then seeing his smirking, vain face in this film makes you realize how audacious and insane he truly was. But what about all those cheering smiling Germans? Sad, isn't it?

  • 14/88

  • Breathe in the sickness

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  • Like if you are here for ms. Woods!!

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  • pretty boring. it's all speeches. i heard the DVD has outtakes of Goring shooting up in the bathroom at the Reich Chancellory

  • I don't have the patience to watch the whole thing (too strange). Can someone tell me if the film ever mentions Hitler's plan to exterminate the Jews in Germany?

  • Soweit euer der Gelöbnis an diesen Abend in jeden Stunde an jeden Tag nur zu denken an Deutschland an Volk für der Reich an und Deutschnation und der deutsche Volk. Sieg Heil. If only it could have ended there. Some kind of roll credits and somebody with humanity actually run the nation. I watch this movie. I'm an Ami. I want to put on a patch and join. They don't look like a people on the brink of an atrocity like a Ku Klux Klan rally. It has a feel of mythology.

  • @drasticwillb did you use Google translator? Everything you wrote has mistakes. 

  • The nazi regime lead to disaster and death for most involved, but my hell this film is a piece of art it's light years ahead of anything done with in twenty years of it omg

  • Sure Hitler and the Nazis were bad but we can all learn a great deal about how to lead and public speaking from him. It's amazing how many politicians don't know how to talk to an audience and make them passionate about their words. Also this film is a great technological achievement. Look at the camera angles and photography. For its time it's astounding! Riefenstahl should be an inspiration to all female directors in training. Again not because of her political ideology but her technical abil

  • @lec0rsaire What exactly can we learn about how to be a leader from Hitler? He led the German people to war and disaster. He ignored the advice of his generals and attempted to micromanage the war - the trouble was he was a lousy strategist and tactitian. He encouraged dissent and jealousy among his subordinates by playing one off against the other. As for his public speaking he learned the art of being a demogogue - I think we can do without them.

  • @mikelheron20 True but there is no doubt that Hitler was good at speaking, if there is something to learn is that we have to look beyond charisma in a leader,

  • @Federoism Not really much a problem in the UK at the moment. Never known such an uncharismatic bunch.

  • @mikelheron20 ...valid point lol

  • @mikelheron20 Sorry. Meant "tactician".

  • @lec0rsaire I'll tell you what I learned from this. I always wondered why the Amish don't like having their pictures taken and now I'm starting to understand.  The Amish know that pride is the most dangerous sin, especially in Germans. Photographs lead to pride and one thing leads to another. Hitler and the photographer Leni Reifenstahl promoted racial pride and passion in the Germans and in the end it destroyed millions of them.

  • 0:35:00 now thats proberly the most impressive most powerfull speech ever given

  • Fantastic film! I feel great pride after watching it. Deutschland über ALLES!

  • @lec0rsaire du bist lustig

  • @lec0rsaire  i feel the same..even i am dutch

  • what is the name of this song @38:15

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  • The True "Aryan"? Hitler wasn't blond, very non-athletic, a hypocondriac and a drug addict. Nazism was bullshit from top to bottom. Just like all fanatical and absolutist belief systems.

  • Everyone is a part of a minority in one way or another. And what's to prevent your group from being the next scapegoat of the problems of "the majority"?

  • No matter how diffrent the political or religious ideology a government uses to impose it's will, tyranny is always the same at all times and in all places. And it's happening again today. Will we ever learn from history?

  • Any leader would love to have that blind following- minus the bloodshed.

  • Old German Music is beautiful.

  • This whole movie is basically filled with "I see what you did there," moments...

  • please notice that a person who is extraordinary, a bit craze or even crazy at all. that kind of people rules the History...

    because a normal man will never go to be a polic... that job for whose are mad...

    U are mad? U want to change the world on ur own? U have to be a politic =)

    U know who is an tragical example!

  • 9 people are jews

  • You give a man a loaf of bread,a shovel,and a uniform, he will folow you.

  • @quietjedi1010101 It's scary how much this is true.

  • The drastically overblown anti-Hitler rhetoric in these comments makes me very sad. If any kind of realistic and historically accurate portrayal of the man and the regime was allowed then people would learn all sorts of suprising things. (in a good way.)

  • @Tluccodis741 It is true, Hitler did a lot of good things for his country aswell. He helped Germany out of an enormous economical crisis. He gave people hope in a time when there was none left.

    But nothing, nothing at all, can justify what he did to the minorities in his country. Nothing can forgive him for the cruelties done to the people in the concentration camps.

  • @witwanggibon I would suggest watching some of David Irving's talks. Theres more to that than we were led to believe. The war propoganda all nations engage in during wartime, never ended after WW2.

  • @Tluccodis741 I study history, Ive heard all of those theories, and I dont have to look up David Irving to know what he's going to say. The evidence of the Holocaust is overwhelming. I have considered the thought that it might all be fake or exagerated, honestly I have. But if you listen carefully to both sides, you will find that negationists just dont have a very strong case.

  • @witwanggibon So having scientifically tested the walls of the supposed gas chamber at Auschwitz and finding absolutely no traces of Zyklon B makes a "not very strong case?" LOL OK

  • @Tluccodis741 The issue was lack of residue of a warning oderant. But the Zyklon B was manufactured without oderant so the prisoners wouldn't smell the gas as they entered.

  • @witwanggibon The fact is not one single Jew ever died in a Gas Chamber. 

  • @Tluccodis741 I havent heard about such a test, and I shall look into it later on. Do realise though that David Irving has lost the courtcase HE started against Lipstat on the subject. Also note that most of the 'evidence' given by negationists, such as the so called fakeness of the diary of Anne Frank, was proven to be wrong.

  • @witwanggibon How can you openly Lie? Anne Frank's Diary was written in ball point pen which wasn't invented until 1951. Of course it was a fraud.

  • @Tluccodis741 Not all of the diary was written in ball point, only a few lines. Those passages in ball point pen were added by her father Otto Frank after the war. He edited some of the diary because she had written some bad things about her mother and the marriage of her parents and also because some of the things she wrote contained sex references which he considered inappropriate.

  • @witwanggibon bullshit. Lets cut right to the heart of the matter. From Soviet Records we now know how many tons of Coking Coal were sent to the camps and thus how many bodies could have been burned. We also know from aerial underground scans that there are no mass graves that haven't been found. Its phsycially impossible that 6 million Jews Died. IMPOSSIBLE.

  • @Tluccodis741 Besides, the diary has been the subject of three different scientifical examinations and all concluded it was real.

    And not all of the jews died in the camps. They died in ghettos etc aswell. Also dont forget the thousands of witnesses that are still alive. Even some of the nazis admitted to what they did. Eichmann for example.

  • @Tluccodis741 But to be honest, you're not going to convince me, and by the looks of it, I wont convince you either. You have every right to have this opinion, but I have the right to have mine too. So lets just agree to disagree on this matter and not get into a pointless fight neither of us will win.

  • @Tluccodis741 Very well im not unreasonable. I agree Jews were murdered. I can't say it bothers me much as much evil as they have committed. But they were machine gunned on the eastern front, not gassed in chambers. Even Irving Admits all of that. Farewell.

  • @Tluccodis741 Well, we agree on that front then. I find it harsh of you to say those people who included children, deserved to be murdered. But again, that is my opinion.

    Farewell.

  • @Tluccodis741 what kind of evil have the jews committed?

  • @Pinguinkings They created Communism. The majority of the early founders of the communist party in Russia were Jews. The regime they instituted and ran murdered 100 Million russians. The Main butcher was Lazar Kaganovich who was jewish and who was directly responsible for the murder of 20 million non jewish russians. Think hitler was bad? Hahaha. Look at how they treat the palestinians today. This answer requires more than 500 characters. ALOT more.

  • @Tluccodis741 u are totaly right man! keep ur opinon as it is! The MASMEDIA hides it away from the mass... jews are couse of problems for people especially for us, who is white race

  • @Tluccodis741 Communism was created by the German atheist, Karl Marx. I don't think it's fair to blame the Jews for Communism any more than it's fair to blame the German race for Hitler or the Japanese race for Pearl Harbor or the Americans for Paris Hilton. The Soviet regime was famous for their anti-semetism and Jews suffered under communism.

  • @doobietubie1 Actually Karl Marx is the Son of a Rabbi. In many letters he sent, he's talking about the world's finance being delivered into the hands of the Jews. He's a Jew. Most jews are Athiests, actually. All the founding members of the bolshevik revolution were Jews. Like Lev bronstein aka trotsky. Lazar Kaganovich. Marx. All jews. Murdered 60+ million russians. The soviet regime didn't get anti-semitic until Stalin figured out how they were screwing him, then he was killed.

  • @Tluccodis741 But a Jew who calls himself an athiest is no longer part of the Jewish culture. He may be part of the race but a race can't be said to invent anything. If a black man invented peanut butter you can't say "blacks invented peanut butter" Jews have been breeding for IQ for millenia and they tend to rise to the top wherever they are. The bad Jews became Nazis, socialists or communists; good ones become doctors, bankers or scientists.

  • @doobietubie1 So you agree that the Jews are a race then? They've been kicked out of 109 nations on the earth dozens of times. Why do you think that is? Magical bigotry that comes out of thin air? I guarantee you its nothing to do with that. Please, do some more research. The predecessor of the OSS did a study of communism before ww2, us government research. It says"These internationalist communists are led by Jews of the greasiest kind" THATS FROM A US GOVT report.

  • @Tluccodis741 Jews are a race, a religion and a culture. They get kicked out of places for the same reason that Christians, Buddists, whites or any peace-loving, intelligent and productive people get persecuted and kicked out places -- wealth envy. It's the evil in human nature. Bad people want good people out of the way.

    But Jews, being smarter, cause more damage if they go bad. There are greasy Jews and there are well-scrubbed Jews. There are even Jews who oppose Israel.

  • @doobietubie1 Except christians and bhuddists don't move to an area, formulate a plan to take over the most influential business, government, finance, and media positions, then ruthlessly exploit those positions to the benefit of themselves and no others. Jews do. Which is why they were kicked out of Nazi Germany and the ones who wouldn't leave were placed in camps. Ever since then the jews have openly supported anti-white policies. Essentially we are slated to be bred out.

  • @Tluccodis741 It seems to be the opposite of that. U.S. Jews are Democrats who seem to want to throw Israel to the wolves. Most Jews, as you point out, are agnostics who don't care that much about other Jews, the Jewish religion or Israel but cave to their oppressers. If they support anti-white policies they are also supporting anti-Jewish policies.

    But Jews benefit a nation because they have high IQ which expands national GDP. America owes much of her wealth to Jewish genius.

  • @doobietubie1 That is utter shite. America is hundreds of trillions of dollars in Debt because of the jewish owned federal reserve bank. The jewish owned media lies to us daily promoting race mixing and apologizing for the mass immigration jewish politicians supported. They don't support anything Anti-jewish. They support THEMSELVES at everyone else's expense. I agree they are very smart. Both sides support israel you tool. Look at Obama, he's their bitch. Rahm Emmanuel, anyone?

  • @Tluccodis741 Our debt is because of deficit spending by Congress not the Fed.

    Why would it be in the interests of American Jews to import Muslims to America when Muslims kill Jews? Yes, the atheist Jew tends to support himself at the expense of everyone else including other Jews but there are Jews and then there are Jews. Not all are atheist. Orthodox Jews are not so foolish.

    If Obama is their bitch then the Jews are lousy dog trainers. He bites the hand that feeds him.

  • @doobietubie1 The federal reserve bank loans every dollar the US gov't spends TO it at interest, which we the taxpayer have to pay back. Our money IS debt. The men who wrote the federal reserve act in 1913, 75% of them were Jews. Look it up. Look up the Immigration Act of 1965 which removed protections placed on immigration designed to keep an ethnic balance in the US. The promoters of it were Jews. He doesn't bite it. They shove their hand up his ass and he takes it.

  • @Tluccodis741 The main problem is that, Europeans and Euro-Americans, effectively "put their guard down", when it comes to ethnic and racial awareness...no other race of people on the planet, has ever so willingly thrown their race under the bus, in favor of tolerance...Europe for the Europeans...

  • @GemCan78 Yes. It works like this. Mexico for the mexicans. China for the chinese. Africa for the africans. White countries for everybody. Its alright, it won't last much longer.

  • @Tluccodis741 What I'm saying, is that, we as Europeans should never have put our guard down in the first place...the Zionists being whom they are, are looking for every little opening on their part to try and destroy Western Civilization...but, of course, they won't succeed, for Europeans and Euro-Americans will rise again...

  • @GemCan78 Of course. But the problem is we'd never seen anybody like that before. We didn't understand their methods. If Aryans=Integrity then Jews=The ultimate in subterfuge and lies. We're locked in a battle to the end... either they'll succeed in convincing our own people to "Brown out" slowly or the awakened ones will rise and wipe them off the face of the planet. Its us or them now.

  • @GemCan78 amen to that ! i'm for an all white europe but unfortunately that is not happening at the moment.

  • @GemCan78 Jews are an integral part to the development & content of Western Civ.

    Not that your white trash paranoia isn't fascinating.

  • @festdir Obviously, you're a Jew...and secondly, Jews aren't an integral part of Western Civilization, since they weren't emancipated until the late 18th and early 19th centuries...so I guess they made all sorts of wonderful contributions from their ghettoes in Florence, Milan, Budapest, and Madrid, huh? And about Hitler election results...in March 1933, the National Socialists garnered 43.9% of the vote...learn your history, stupid ass...

  • @doobietubie1 why would it be in the interest of american jews to import muslims to america? Simple. Jews thrive in a multi-racial environment. They are as you say of far superior average intellect. As a pro white activist i readily admit jews and asians average intelligence superiority to the white man. But the thing to understand is, they don't mind sacrificing a few of their own if an ultimate goal is achieved. They are experts at playing both sides against the middle.

  • @doobietubie1 They did it to Europe. Zionist/commie jews in media, academia, and government post-ww2 in europe have been promoting multiculturalism and diversity in europe since then and now there is a huge Islamic population in Europe and much conflict results. The native europeans are at a breaking point in many of those nations because of it. Point is, it would've never been possible without the Jews.

  • @Tluccodis741 Maybe we should be discussing which Jews you are talking about. There are, as you say, atheist Jews (sometimes called "Progressive" or secular) and there are Orthodox Jews. The Orthodox Jews support Republicans and conservatives and do not promote diversity and multiculturalism like the atheist Jews. So maybe you really have a problem with atheism.

  • @doobietubie1 I'm sorry, i understand there is a difference but they themselves do not see it as a difference. As Republican/Democrat is just 2 sides of the same coin. They are a unified group. Their ethnicity unifies them beyond such a trivial difference. They think tribally unlike whites. That said... even the false right in the US is pro-immigration. They have in fact made it EASIER for immigration to occur. Theres no disagreement between the 2 on that subject. Race=Off limits.

  • @doobietubie1 Please read 'Solzhenitsyn' a bio by Joseph Pierce. It was his writing as much as the work of Pope John Paul II and Ronald Reagan that brought Communism to its knees. I've never read a better explanation of just what happened to create the Union of Soviet Socialist Repub. (they identified themselves as SOCIALISTS) Unfortunately, many Jews were very gung ho for the revolution and Communism. They didn't forsee their being destroyed along with the Catholics.

  • @catholicmaxima Yes. Age old question: Why do smart people do stupid things?

  • Hitler= World gave him shit because he was a dumbass and poor, blamed it on the jews, became the ruler of a great nation and fucked many blond sluts then killed himself. Haha do you think hitler gave a shit about what everyone thought? We can learn from fuckers like this. hitler your way up the corporate ladder, hitler your way through your relationship and make that bitch submissive, hitler your way through getting rid rid of those extra 300 you carry around like a nazi carries a swastika. FLOL

  • We now look upon the Greeks, the Romans and think of the Grand things that they did, and all of those Great Empires before us. i know how much you white boys love to hear that your race is superior but the truth is that everyone has his time. People of dark color and of different body structures rules the world at certain points. It's not race and color that determines where you stand in this world, it's the balls to assert yourself and the will to destroy the competition. life is a grand game.

  • @Flakbaitchen If that's the case, then why are the poorest countries in the world, in

    Sub-Saharan Africa? Why are African countries so corrupt, filled with genocide, hatred towards women, poverty, civil war, etc? Maybe you need to ask yourself that question...

  • @GemCan78 well, it is true that modern history was predominantly influenced by white races but the fact that they are white has nothing to do with it, like i said the history of the world is very long and at one point in time people of dark color had great empires which predominated the worlds culture and advancement. notice the worlds most successful people they are not just one particular race.

  • @GemCan78 why is africa so fucked up? the answer is too complex and honestly you don't give a shit. but they are fucked up because they stopped doing whatever it is that they were doing that made them be successful, for example they stopped going to school, they stopped thinking and inventing shit they stopped fighting against whoever threatened their liberties etc. and so gradually became what everyone is bound to become if we just sit around and do nothing to better ourselves.

  • How many of those beautiful men and boys perished on the battlefield as a result of Hitler's mad vision?

  • @siasti It was good vision it was the pratice that was bad.

  • @siasti

    They certainly did not regret it. You will never understand anyway.

  • @lukorD14 You must be very arrogant if you think that you can speak for every German soldier. Also, you must be ignorant of history if you do not know that there was much anti-Hitler sentiment both within the general population and the army.

  • @siasti

    Oh yes, especially in the Waffen SS, among almost only volunteers. And I'm not talking about only German soldiers, but about European soldiers.

  • @lukorD14 The Waffen SS - a bunch of thugs who murdered women and children. And how many of them wore their Nazi pins after the Nazis lost the war?

  • @siasti I only see YOUR STUPID PACIFIST UNGLORIOUS vision.

  • @australnsbm Wrong. I have no vision whatsoever.

  • @siasti Even worse. Ideological sedentarism.

  • @siasti Seriously, fuck you dirty communist jew.

  • @siasti How many of those beautiful men and boys won't be born as a result of the liberals/capitalists mad visions ?

  • @siasti

    Yes I was thinking the same thing as I watched eleven-year old boys in the crowd saluting. Ten years later they would have all been in the army when the Russians were slaughtering them in the Battle of Kusk.

    After the war, architects used the images from this film to reconstruct buildings that Allied Bomber Command had reduced to rubble.

  • @doobietubie1 Finally, an intelligent comment. I see you've also been "trading opinions" with the Neo-Nazi idiots. They're a rather sad lot.

  • bahaha what mindless madness

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  • it's so amazing how a people we're tricked and fooled into giving their freedoms away...then once in power gave complete allegiance to their insanity. Film, radio, posters, press everything was twisted the German people had no chance against this propaganda. Even those who resisted or where silenced by the state...a Nation gripped in madness....

  • co to za wrzeszczący wąsacz? :(

  • It's eerie how much the first five minutes is reminiscent of the Emperor's appearance in Star Wars.

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  • 6 people are jews

  • @TheWalrus19

    and one an idiotic walrus

  • I cannot believe there are so much "peace" words in the speeches of Hitler and Nazi Officers. Is not it ironic?

  • @tarananakonda Because that is excactly what he ever and allways wanted. If you haven't figured u might want to digg a little deeper in non-mainstream material.

  • @tarananakonda Peace <-- was used to trick the German people and the foreign governments. Double speak they lied throughout their speeches....promising peace yet getting ready to wage war...

  • what's that march at 6:12 called?

  • For das deutschen volk!!!

  • @giel57

    If you are going to make stupid comments in German, at least use correct grammar.

  • @jeglpz probably used online translation.

  • Dreharbeiten von Leni Riefenstahl gemacht sind erstaunlich

    falcoluminoso

  • Fuck America

  • God bless Hitler.

  • what the march play to 1:04:00

  • As fascinating and educational as this historical film is...the real triumph of will is to be able to sit through this whole film. Long speeches, music marching, more speeches, more militant music...very tedious. Perhaps people of the 1930's had longer attention spans.

  • @alternatehistories Fuck your mother.

  • @alternatehistories Yes, I agree. It needed to be edited down to about an hour.

  • Fuck Germany

  • @MrThorn88 Your grandmother was Hitlers slut and your mama was my cocksucker.

  • Hitler landing reminds me of The Beatles arriving in America. Man, Adolf was a rock-star to these people!

  • I understand that this movie had several working titles: "Germany Loses It's Marbles", "America - Don't Try This At Home", or "Never Trust A Guy With Skulls And Crossbones On His Hat".

    Also, I read that if you watched this movie in the theater and fell asleep....the Gestapo just shot you. 

  • NAZI KITTY!!!!!!! 6:56

  • @theGUYwho1 The cat is actually a symbol of Hitler's idea that women should stay domestic and remain in the household, caring for children and cooking dinner, cleaning, etc. It goes back to the idea of "women should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen," and Hitler encouraged them to have more children (but only of the blue-eyed, fair haired Aryan race, of course :/ ). It sounds twisted to us now, but that's how it was. The cat symbolizes that idea.

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  • GOD BLESS THE ETERNAL GERMANY

  • @BITARTEN funny. germany didn't even exist until 1871. how then is it eternal?

  • @brotherwoo I know what I mean

  • @BITARTEN excellence answer!

  • This is one of the most amazing movies of all time, the shear magnitude of the film and considering the time in which it was made is simply outstanding!

  • man I hate germans so much this kind of stuff is very important

  • @dannymaclamp Man I hate Canadians so much

  • @MuchoFunkie but there would be no justification of it because we're a pretty moderate country that doesn't cause too much trouble vs. the nazis who tried to take over the world twice and slaughtered millions, and if you're from Denmark you should have them even more, unless you are a neo-nazi yourself..... I think that might be it.

  • @dannymaclamp Saying that all Germans is like saying that all Americans are stupid as fuck, it doesn't make any sense because it is a stereotype. It has been proven that only 10-15% of the whole GERMAN POPULATION followed Hitler and the Nazi (National socialist) Ideology. Of course when joining the army you pledged an oath to Hitler, but that does not mean he is who you are fighting for... - I am not an neo-nazi, i despise the nazi ideology. - Continued -

  • @MuchoFunkie actually, the nazi party won 37% of the vote in 1933 that elevated hitler to the chancellery. actually, a majority quite consistently supported hitler's policies, but not quite in the way one might think. it turns out that the most popular aspects of nazi ideology were those related to a return to conservative, victorian values. they also promised order and economic stability and soon delivered. but...they were also supportive of his anti-semitism. sorry, but it's true.

  • @brotherwoo You are precisely correct in your allotted 500 characters; the percentage of Germans who were Communists was not so dissimilar to those who were Nazis.

    But your point is well taken; the Communists promised the chaos of a "new order" while the Nazis promised to BRING order to a traditional Germany and this is what the German people really, really wanted as you so succinctly and correctly pointed out.

  • @MuchoFunkie it is also a myth that the german army 'only was following orders.' feel free to read 'the path to genocide' by christopher, who thoroughly debunks the myth that german soldiers were merely following orders. lisa pine's 'hitler's national community' also speaks to the same truth. if you would rather watch a documentary with interviews of both participants and victims of the 'final solution,' please watch 'the nazis: a warning from history" and judge for yourself...

  • @brotherwoo First of all you need to be critical towards your information and the research that you do... My grandfather was in the Wehrmacht, and he never knew anything about the genocide going on, heard from an actual person who was there. But I was not there, but I trust my grandfather more than I trust a book about furtherly debunking the German army. And lastly of all, the books are written with bias, and by zionists who's intention is to fulfill their own intentions - continued -

  • @MuchoFunkie zuerst, mussen sie auch verstehen, dass meinen grosvater auch deutsch gewesen ist...er war nicht mitglieder des wehrmachts gewesen, aber meine familie hat and die konzentrationlagers und die endlosung gewissen...so, with that being said, it is not true that all books are written with 'intentional' bias, but it is true that some bias in any research is inherent. again, i recommend that you watch for yourself the interviews. observe body language, observe evasion, rationalization.

  • @brotherwoo It would be fairly easy to find books debunking the Allied army as well, which is not to any concern since the Americans dropped the nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki of which Japans emperor allready had announced the surrender to the Japanese population and written the acclamation of surrender. I see that you are from Israel aswell, and I don't judge you by that but you are indoctrinated (aswell as I am) into an society where we categorize the enemy as deluted and evil - cont

  • @MuchoFunkie i do see americans as monsters (japanese internment camps, native-american extermination, the philipino campaign, slavery, and countless other atrocities). i hold dual citizenship and am critical of both of my nations and the decisions they make. as you infer, to find the truth, one must be critical. as a historian, it is my job to be critical and look at all angles. browning's scholarship bends over backwards to be objective.

  • @brotherwoo Ahh okay, it's good to hear that we both agree on most parts. It is also very interesting to discuss the things that are not directly shared context

  • @brotherwoo Regarding US internment camps for the Japanese; you do, of course, obviously do not know what the percentage of WW2 internees that the Japanese consisted of.

  • @MuchoFunkie Japan had not announced any "surrender" prior to the two nukes being used; this is asinine; after the first bomb was dropped the cabinet met and voted, UNANIMOUSLY to continue the war; after the 2nd bomb was dropped, the vote was a tie which the Emperor broke and even then, a coup had to be put down; it too wanted to continue the war.

    In fact, the US was preparing "Operation Downfall" to invade the Japanese home islands in two stages; Oct. of '45 and March of 1946.

  • @MuchoFunkie Without even the slightest intention to look on the bad side of our own society, laws, rules and view. In modern society, we don't see ourself as monsters, but our enemies as monsters by the only reason that they are our enemies, how can we live in a society where we think that everything we do is absolutely right? I think that the decision to assault the Middle East because of 9/11, and of many other reasons is WRONG.

  • @MuchoFunkie i agree with you completely about the wars in irag and afghanistan. i am appalled at the treatment of the palestinians, and believe that american policy towards israel only exacerbates our relations with the arab world at large. israeli settlements are unjust.

  • @MuchoFunkie Go look at any newsreel footage of Berlin over the fall and surrender of France; the crowds are so thick with joy you couldn't have fallen down in the street if you tried so your claim about the small percentage that lied the Nazis is utter bullshine.

    Yes, there were also people that didn't like Roosevelt but at least they could say so openly and even openly join the opposition (Republican) party.

  • @SatchmoSings To your concern, The German newsreel at this time (Die Deutsche Wochenschau) was simply the indoctrination of propaganda itself... To furtherly notice it, it is a large group of people, but it is not 100 million people (as an approximate number of the German population at the time), it is all made to create stir. Have you ever tried being to a concert? Or perhaps a demonstration? It is pretty much the same thing, you get taken away.

  • @MuchoFunkie Your point is well taken; thank you and yes, it is also a good description of the mentality of too much of Germany at the time in the sense of being swept away.

  • @MuchoFunkie well, german actually had around 69.6 million citizens in 1939, but who's counting? but the reali point is thie: propaganda is only effective if it heightens fears, prejudice, hatred, etc. that is already prevalent. propaganda is the match to the fire. nazi propaganda wouldn't have worked had not the average german already been sympathetic to it. in fact, most went along with it because of careerism, greed, opportunism, etc...not because they were 'brainwashed.'

  • @brotherwoo Thats a pretty deluded comment. In 1939 the German population was of an aproximate of 80,600,000+ - and that grew pretty vastly throughout the war. If you say that there did not exist propaganda on the Allied counterparts, you are wrong too (even though you didn't directly state it), the Russian's used the same kind of propaganda - which is called socialist realism - And the US had propaganda aswell in large degrees.

  • @MuchoFunkie not need to resort to ad hominem arguments, my friend. i am man enough to admit when i am wrong. i was using this link, and must have scanned to wrong number. anyway, you misconstrue what i was attempting to explain. in fact, allied propaganda was quite similar in some ways to nazi propaganda. my point was speaking to the idea that no amount of propaganda directed at a population will alter a worldview unless (cont)