I always think of the purpose of the monolith as an agent that changes the perspective. Firstly, the apes looked up for the first time, and spotted the alignment of sun and the moon, which prompted them to start reflecting on their surroundings. Later, the same thing was reversed on the moon, showing the vulnerability of Earth in the dark space. Finally, the monolith helped Dave see himself from the outside and fully realize his mortality, which is the last frontier - 'beyond the infinite'...
To the top 2 comments: it's about both of those things, as well as alien "higher being" helping man evolve his being by influencing him at key points throughout evolution.
I agree with Azartusfar. A.C.Clarks's original story showed man's progression and evolution.Each evolution required an intervention from an outside source (god as the monolith). Man could not evolve without the Monolith.Man has become stagnant again in 2001. He needs a progression.The monolith reappears to help the transition. HAL is more human acting than the humans have become. HAL has been in contact with the monolith and is doing what the monolith wants.Hal is a tool here. A very human tool.
In all these videos i have never seen anyone say " HAL LETTER BY LETTER IS ONE LETTER DIFFERENT FROM IBM, YOU KNOW THE COMPUTER COMPANY!" lol had to be done soz!
Haha. Great edit. I find it always more effective in movies when they swear only on occasion. Same goes for making it funny. This video made me laugh.
That's a very interesting hypothesis, & some may be tempted to accept it completely as it will give them a handle (understanding...) to the books/films meaning. However, your succinct writing style fails to address the one key element in the series of books... that TMA's (Monoliths) were buried by a higher intelligence to kick-start not man's evolution but whatever life that happened to be around on Earth. The books are essentially about benevalent space-travellers assisting emerging species
That's a very interesting hypothesis, & some may be tempted to accept it completely as it will give them a handle (understanding...) to the books/films meaning. However, your succinct writing style fails to address the one key element in the series of books... that TMA's (Monoliths) were buried by a higher intelligence to kick-start not man's evolution but whatever life that happened to be around on Earth. The books are essentially about benevalent space-travellers assisting emerging species.
2001: A space oddysey is most likely based on "also sprach Zaratustra", by Nietzsche. If you read the book, and then watch the movie, you understand why... they just don't make movies like this anymore.
HAL is a metaphor for the egoistic mind. 2001 is about the evolution of man's consciousness. HAL's actually superior to Dave in computing power.HAL is aware,that his days are numbered, because the 'mission' will create the 'new man' the 'space child',who's connected to the universe's knowledge,he has replaced the intellectualized mind,with a mind that will do,what HAL can't, he will manifest and 'create' through the power of his mind. Animal man Thinking man Computer man Star Child
@fntime 2001 is a complex movie.ì that is open to many possibilities of speculation and fantasy. You have indeed exposed very well Hal and one aspect of humanity (or rather inhumanity) that he represents. However he could also be seen as man himself, lacerated by internal conflicts, which bring him to madness. Often such conflicts are provoked by man's dual nature: bestial and rational. At least IMHO
@fntime LOL nope. HAL isn't a metaphor for anything, HAL is simply a character from the novel/movie. The only reason HAL does all these things is because he was built to tell the pure truth in order to form a successful mission, yet he was told halfway through the mission to lie about the true purpose of the mission, so HAL had to do something that stuck to how he knew (was programmed) to do.
@fntime To do that, he had to kill off all the crew, so that way he didn't have to lie to them and since they were dead, he didn't have to tell any data at all.
Firstly thank you for asuming that I don't understand what egoistic means. Secondly, to asume that HAL could forseen that they would find anything let alone that the ET's will transform the human conciesnes is absurd. As stated in the book, the reason HAL went renegade is that he was supposed to keep the mission's true purpose a secret from Poole and Bowman, and due to all of his computing power he couldn't process a lie or stay "sane" due to conflicting programing. --
--Also, HAL was aware that this mission would be the end of him simply because Discovery was planned to be abandoned in the orbit of Jupiter/Saturn, not becase the human specie would transced him.
@fntime I'm not going to debate with this, I just saw the movies. But in 2010, It Chandra says that the government forced HAL to lie, that's why he became paranoid. Could it be a mix of both?
My Brain sent me here.
Nevawake 1 week ago
You are all wrong, and yet you are right. Everyone is /supposed/ to have their own interpretation of the movie, Kubrick said so himself.
Andy97009814 2 weeks ago
I always think of the purpose of the monolith as an agent that changes the perspective. Firstly, the apes looked up for the first time, and spotted the alignment of sun and the moon, which prompted them to start reflecting on their surroundings. Later, the same thing was reversed on the moon, showing the vulnerability of Earth in the dark space. Finally, the monolith helped Dave see himself from the outside and fully realize his mortality, which is the last frontier - 'beyond the infinite'...
MAXwellchikenrice 4 weeks ago
To the top 2 comments: it's about both of those things, as well as alien "higher being" helping man evolve his being by influencing him at key points throughout evolution.
OSWendigo 1 month ago
I agree with Azartusfar. A.C.Clarks's original story showed man's progression and evolution.Each evolution required an intervention from an outside source (god as the monolith). Man could not evolve without the Monolith.Man has become stagnant again in 2001. He needs a progression.The monolith reappears to help the transition. HAL is more human acting than the humans have become. HAL has been in contact with the monolith and is doing what the monolith wants.Hal is a tool here. A very human tool.
bobzeda 2 months ago
In all these videos i have never seen anyone say " HAL LETTER BY LETTER IS ONE LETTER DIFFERENT FROM IBM, YOU KNOW THE COMPUTER COMPANY!" lol had to be done soz!
TheCutterschoice 2 months ago
Haha. Great edit. I find it always more effective in movies when they swear only on occasion. Same goes for making it funny. This video made me laugh.
TheStuartCarson 2 months ago
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I think he's an Allen Bradley 800T-QBH10R with a full guard
keztar 2 months ago
he was not programmed for this word
sedjetra 2 months ago
i ask my iphone 4 s to open the pod bay doors
andy19832009 2 months ago
@andy19832009
Iphone doesn't work, Droid on the other hand....
Dracoa79 2 months ago
Dave Cutler is the designer and developer of several operating systems including RSX-11M, VMS and VAXELN at Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC).
He left Digital Equipment Corporation to join Microsoft in October 1988.
He led the development of Windows NT (WNT) operating system.
Increment every letter in VMS .. and then laugh (2001 got it right the first time) .. ART does influence the REAL WORLD !
w9gb 4 months ago
IBM
DrewAnti1960 4 months ago
@DrewAnti1960 if you take the name HAL,and go to the next letter after H,A,and L you get IBM,ha ha
Stanley knew what was up,computers will take over..
DrewAnti1960 4 months ago 2
This made me chuckle.
porklik 5 months ago 2
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imchangingtrains 5 months ago
In the second book, Hal gets turned into a starchild.
theskycavedin 6 months ago
It'd be sad if HAL started crying.
TharTassakahn 8 months ago 4
You bleeped the word *hell*? What is this? The Amish Youtube?
Trollercopter 8 months ago 7
@Trollercopter it's implied that he's saying "fuck" that's why it was bleeped -___-;;
GravityGrave 5 months ago
@GravityGrave Thanks. My screen name would imply I'm a troll.
Trollercopter 5 months ago
@Trollercopter mmn, I should've caught that... my bad =|
GravityGrave 5 months ago
"where the **bleep** did you get that idea HAL?"
OMG, HILARIOUS!! ^_^
StarWarsFanatic99 9 months ago 8
See also Ren and Stimpy 'Space Madness'
transdrole 9 months ago
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That's a very interesting hypothesis, & some may be tempted to accept it completely as it will give them a handle (understanding...) to the books/films meaning. However, your succinct writing style fails to address the one key element in the series of books... that TMA's (Monoliths) were buried by a higher intelligence to kick-start not man's evolution but whatever life that happened to be around on Earth. The books are essentially about benevalent space-travellers assisting emerging species
moonwatcher1958 1 year ago
That's a very interesting hypothesis, & some may be tempted to accept it completely as it will give them a handle (understanding...) to the books/films meaning. However, your succinct writing style fails to address the one key element in the series of books... that TMA's (Monoliths) were buried by a higher intelligence to kick-start not man's evolution but whatever life that happened to be around on Earth. The books are essentially about benevalent space-travellers assisting emerging species.
moonwatcher1958 1 year ago
I haven't seen this movie, and I'm afraid to -- my ADHD-wired brain may comprehend it as too long, too boring, too slow. Should I still risk it?
ryanson209 1 year ago
2001: A space oddysey is most likely based on "also sprach Zaratustra", by Nietzsche. If you read the book, and then watch the movie, you understand why... they just don't make movies like this anymore.
biggieboy2510 1 year ago
He's probably trying to figure out what the word fuck means lol
MichaelMorbius4ever 1 year ago 6
fntime 1 year ago 53
You sir are wrong, in short the movie is about man and his tools.
Azartusfar 1 year ago 34
@Azartusfar What is the 'star childs' tools?
fntime 5 months ago
Last time I checked metaphors don't use tools, you didn't seriously think it was real, did you.
Azartusfar 5 months ago
@Azartusfar Your age and your interest in cartoons makes serious
conversation, impossible. Good luck with the comic books.
fntime 5 months ago
You have successfully made a fool of yourself, congratulations, or should I say "Repent Harlequin!"
Azartusfar 5 months ago
@fntime 2001 is a complex movie.ì that is open to many possibilities of speculation and fantasy. You have indeed exposed very well Hal and one aspect of humanity (or rather inhumanity) that he represents. However he could also be seen as man himself, lacerated by internal conflicts, which bring him to madness. Often such conflicts are provoked by man's dual nature: bestial and rational. At least IMHO
THEMANOUTOFTHECAVE 1 year ago
@fntime You, sir, could not use a proper comma if your life depended on it. Fuck, I could barely read through your entire post without raging.
arcarulez 10 months ago
@arcarulez "It's Greek to me!"
fntime 10 months ago
@fntime LOL nope. HAL isn't a metaphor for anything, HAL is simply a character from the novel/movie. The only reason HAL does all these things is because he was built to tell the pure truth in order to form a successful mission, yet he was told halfway through the mission to lie about the true purpose of the mission, so HAL had to do something that stuck to how he knew (was programmed) to do.
craponnaruto 6 months ago
@fntime To do that, he had to kill off all the crew, so that way he didn't have to lie to them and since they were dead, he didn't have to tell any data at all.
craponnaruto 6 months ago
@fntime
Not true, because HAL nor anyone else could've known what would happen after reaching the star gate
bugaluu1 5 months ago
@bugaluu1 HAL was a stage in evolution! He knew the crew were
'thinking men' and in the thinking arena he was their better.
He is a metaphor for the ego, if you are not familar with the
'egotistic' mind, then what I'm saying doesn't make sense.
If you remember they found the 'tablet' on the moon.
HAL's mental power, reasoning and speed of calculation
made him understand what the crew didn't.
HAL also 'knows' his own shortcomings. He is not
'CONNECTED". Even the crew has this over him.
fntime 5 months ago
@bugaluu1 I'm not criticizing you bugaluu,but there are things that
are evident to any entity who can calculate & weigh facts &
have acquired different thinking 'programs'.
At 21, your mind isn't close to what it will be in 40 years if you
are willing to do what's necessary to expand your consciousness.
It's called taking all of the facts, &I mean ALL OF THE FACTS,
and you then come to amazing conclusions.
You might make the point that HAL was only neurotic, he's
paranoid like all ego.
fntime 5 months ago
@bugaluu1 I'll continue with this if you want, but if you don't care,
then I don't want to waste your time or mine.
My comments involved a great deal of contemplation a long time
ago. I might not be explaining it properly because of the limitation
of words and I don't know you, so I don't know if I have to define
each word or phrase so that we have a common understanding
of my premises.
This is a mental wake up. I haven't had my coffee yet. (lol)
fntime 5 months ago
@bugaluu1 Why do you presume it was a 'stargate'?
Taking facts, observing them objectively, place a constant
for the unpredictable, you can predict many things with a
degree of probablility.
If you can't make predictions, then you'll find data is
pointless. And afterall, it's just a movie.
fntime 5 months ago
@fntime
Firstly thank you for asuming that I don't understand what egoistic means. Secondly, to asume that HAL could forseen that they would find anything let alone that the ET's will transform the human conciesnes is absurd. As stated in the book, the reason HAL went renegade is that he was supposed to keep the mission's true purpose a secret from Poole and Bowman, and due to all of his computing power he couldn't process a lie or stay "sane" due to conflicting programing. --
bugaluu1 5 months ago
@bugaluu1 Processing a 'lie' conflicting programing? I guess you
have not met homo sapien, we do this all the time, not always to
our advantage, but totally consistent with a brain that works on
3 levels and often is in contradiction.
I don't know anything about ET's. I don't even know if they exist,
but, some of the comments on this forum make me think
I might be wrong.
fntime 5 months ago
@fntime
--Also, HAL was aware that this mission would be the end of him simply because Discovery was planned to be abandoned in the orbit of Jupiter/Saturn, not becase the human specie would transced him.
bugaluu1 5 months ago
@fntime I'm not going to debate with this, I just saw the movies. But in 2010, It Chandra says that the government forced HAL to lie, that's why he became paranoid. Could it be a mix of both?
Evan42881 5 months ago
@fntime And I thought you was crazy....
lolhaha869 2 months ago
@fntime WTF, repeat in understandable English please, because it reads like gibberish right now.
TWSceptic 2 months ago
I loled! :)
WReCk3000 1 year ago
Triumph!!
MickBoobaloo 1 year ago
Lolzilla, greatest of all dinosaur's, is very amused!
XD
DarkParagon 1 year ago
"Where the f**k did you get that idea Hal?" No response LOL
bladerunner951 1 year ago
Amazing how such a small detail like that can make it so funny!
Zambombier 2 years ago
lmfao
BowToMySkill 2 years ago
lol!
boobunny60 2 years ago
No one is responding, but it is not your fault RobtheBig. This is fine, brother. The application is perfecto.
broadcastappliance 2 years ago
I love Hal 9000 and his apparent "twin", Auto of WALL·E. Ne1 agree?
YoshiStarSpirit 2 years ago