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  • My Brain sent me here.

  • You are all wrong, and yet you are right. Everyone is /supposed/ to have their own interpretation of the movie, Kubrick said so himself.

  • I always think of the purpose of the monolith as an agent that changes the perspective. Firstly, the apes looked up for the first time, and spotted the alignment of sun and the moon, which prompted them to start reflecting on their surroundings. Later, the same thing was reversed on the moon, showing the vulnerability of Earth in the dark space. Finally, the monolith helped Dave see himself from the outside and fully realize his mortality, which is the last frontier - 'beyond the infinite'...

  • To the top 2 comments: it's about both of those things, as well as alien "higher being" helping man evolve his being by influencing him at key points throughout evolution.

  • I agree with Azartusfar. A.C.Clarks's original story showed man's progression and evolution.Each evolution required an intervention from an outside source (god as the monolith). Man could not evolve without the Monolith.Man has become stagnant again in 2001. He needs a progression.The monolith reappears to help the transition. HAL is more human acting than the humans have become. HAL has been in contact with the monolith and is doing what the monolith wants.Hal is a tool here. A very human tool.

  • In all these videos i have never seen anyone say " HAL LETTER BY LETTER IS ONE LETTER DIFFERENT FROM IBM, YOU KNOW THE COMPUTER COMPANY!" lol had to be done soz!

  • Haha. Great edit. I find it always more effective in movies when they swear only on occasion. Same goes for making it funny. This video made me laugh.

  • he was not programmed for this word

  • i ask my iphone 4 s to open the pod bay doors

  • @andy19832009

    Iphone doesn't work, Droid on the other hand....

  • Dave Cutler is the designer and developer of several operating systems including RSX-11M, VMS and VAXELN at Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC).

    He left Digital Equipment Corporation to join Microsoft in October 1988.

    He led the development of Windows NT (WNT) operating system.

    Increment every letter in VMS .. and then laugh (2001 got it right the first time) .. ART does influence the REAL WORLD !

  • IBM

  • @DrewAnti1960 if you take the name HAL,and go to the next letter after H,A,and L you get IBM,ha ha

    Stanley knew what was up,computers will take over..

  • This made me chuckle.

  • HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL HELL

  • In the second book, Hal gets turned into a starchild.

  • It'd be sad if HAL started crying.

  • You bleeped the word *hell*? What is this? The Amish Youtube?

  • @Trollercopter it's implied that he's saying "fuck" that's why it was bleeped -___-;;

  • @GravityGrave Thanks. My screen name would imply I'm a troll.

  • @Trollercopter mmn, I should've caught that... my bad =|

  • "where the **bleep** did you get that idea HAL?"

    OMG, HILARIOUS!! ^_^

  • See also Ren and Stimpy 'Space Madness'

  • That's a very interesting hypothesis, & some may be tempted to accept it completely as it will give them a handle (understanding...) to the books/films meaning. However,  your succinct writing style fails to address the one key element in the series of books... that TMA's (Monoliths) were buried by a higher intelligence to kick-start not man's evolution but whatever life that happened to be around on Earth. The books are essentially about benevalent space-travellers assisting emerging species.

  • I haven't seen this movie, and I'm afraid to -- my ADHD-wired brain may comprehend it as too long, too boring, too slow. Should I still risk it?

  • 2001: A space oddysey is most likely based on "also sprach Zaratustra", by Nietzsche. If you read the book, and then watch the movie, you understand why... they just don't make movies like this anymore.

  • He's probably trying to figure out what the word fuck means lol

  • HAL is a metaphor for the egoistic mind. 2001 is about the evolution of man's consciousness. HAL's actually superior to Dave in computing power.HAL is aware,that his days are numbered, because the 'mission' will create the 'new man' the 'space child',who's connected to the universe's knowledge,he has replaced the intellectualized mind,with a mind that will do,what HAL can't, he will manifest and 'create' through the power of his mind. Animal man Thinking man Computer man Star Child
  • You sir are wrong, in short the movie is about man and his tools.

  • @Azartusfar What is the 'star childs' tools?

    

  • Last time I checked metaphors don't use tools, you didn't seriously think it was real, did you.

  • @Azartusfar Your age and your interest in cartoons makes serious

    conversation, impossible. Good luck with the comic books.

  • You have successfully made a fool of yourself, congratulations, or should I say "Repent Harlequin!"

  • @fntime 2001 is a complex movie.ì that is open to many possibilities of speculation and fantasy. You have indeed exposed very well Hal and one aspect of humanity (or rather inhumanity) that he represents. However he could also be seen as man himself, lacerated by internal conflicts, which bring him to madness. Often such conflicts are provoked by man's dual nature: bestial and rational. At least IMHO

  • @fntime You, sir, could not use a proper comma if your life depended on it. Fuck, I could barely read through your entire post without raging.

  • @arcarulez "It's Greek to me!"

  • @fntime LOL nope. HAL isn't a metaphor for anything, HAL is simply a character from the novel/movie. The only reason HAL does all these things is because he was built to tell the pure truth in order to form a successful mission, yet he was told halfway through the mission to lie about the true purpose of the mission, so HAL had to do something that stuck to how he knew (was programmed) to do.

  • @fntime To do that, he had to kill off all the crew, so that way he didn't have to lie to them and since they were dead, he didn't have to tell any data at all.

  • @fntime

    Not true, because HAL nor anyone else could've known what would happen after reaching the star gate

  • @bugaluu1 HAL was a stage in evolution! He knew the crew were

    'thinking men' and in the thinking arena he was their better.

    He is a metaphor for the ego, if you are not familar with the

    'egotistic' mind, then what I'm saying doesn't make sense.

    If you remember they found the 'tablet' on the moon.

    HAL's mental power, reasoning and speed of calculation

    made him understand what the crew didn't.

    HAL also 'knows' his own shortcomings. He is not

    'CONNECTED". Even the crew has this over him.

  • @bugaluu1 I'm not criticizing you bugaluu,but there are things that

    are evident to any entity who can calculate & weigh facts &

    have acquired different thinking 'programs'.

    At 21, your mind isn't close to what it will be in 40 years if you

    are willing to do what's necessary to expand your consciousness.

    It's called taking all of the facts, &I mean ALL OF THE FACTS,

    and you then come to amazing conclusions.

    You might make the point that HAL was only neurotic, he's

    paranoid like all ego.

  • @bugaluu1 I'll continue with this if you want, but if you don't care,

    then I don't want to waste your time or mine.

    My comments involved a great deal of contemplation a long time

    ago. I might not be explaining it properly because of the limitation

    of words and I don't know you, so I don't know if I have to define

    each word or phrase so that we have a common understanding

    of my premises.

    This is a mental wake up. I haven't had my coffee yet. (lol)

  • @bugaluu1 Why do you presume it was a 'stargate'?

    Taking facts, observing them objectively, place a constant

    for the unpredictable, you can predict many things with a

    degree of probablility.

    If you can't make predictions, then you'll find data is

    pointless. And afterall, it's just a movie.

  • @fntime

    Firstly thank you for asuming that I don't understand what egoistic means. Secondly, to asume that HAL could forseen that they would find anything let alone that the ET's will transform the human conciesnes is absurd. As stated in the book, the reason HAL went renegade is that he was supposed to keep the mission's true purpose a secret from Poole and Bowman, and due to all of his computing power he couldn't process a lie or stay "sane" due to conflicting programing. --

  • @bugaluu1 Processing a 'lie' conflicting programing? I guess you

    have not met homo sapien, we do this all the time, not always to

    our advantage, but totally consistent with a brain that works on

    3 levels and often is in contradiction.

    I don't know anything about ET's. I don't even know if they exist,

    but, some of the comments on this forum make me think

    I might be wrong.

  • @fntime

    --Also, HAL was aware that this mission would be the end of him simply because Discovery was planned to be abandoned in the orbit of Jupiter/Saturn, not becase the human specie would transced him.

  • @fntime I'm not going to debate with this, I just saw the movies. But in 2010, It Chandra says that the government forced HAL to lie, that's why he became paranoid. Could it be a mix of both?

  • @fntime And I thought you was crazy....

  • @fntime WTF, repeat in understandable English please, because it reads like gibberish right now.

  • I loled! :)

  • Triumph!!

  • Lolzilla, greatest of all dinosaur's, is very amused!

    XD

  • "Where the f**k did you get that idea Hal?" No response LOL

  • Amazing how such a small detail like that can make it so funny!

  • lmfao

  • lol!

  • No one is responding, but it is not your fault RobtheBig. This is fine, brother. The application is perfecto.

  • I love Hal 9000 and his apparent "twin", Auto of WALL·E. Ne1 agree?

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