Does anyone know if this man followed up with any kind of psychiatric/psychological evaluation/treatment? I'm just saying that if he was capable of doing this to himself once, he could do it again. Wow. Medicine is incredible.
Why they're even trying to save this man's life is beyond me, there are too many other more deserving injured/sick people that should have been in that helicopter IMHO.
@Sin526 Why is it that you think mental illness (in this case leading to physical harm) is less "deserving" of treatment than more visible ailments? Is it because you're an ignorant piece of shit?
@Sin526 Actually, no there were not many other more deserving injured/sick people that should have been in that helicopter. There are 8 state police medevacs in Md. It has the most advanced EMS system in the US and the most respected trauma center in the world. No patients are more deserving than others and none are left behind because others are cared for. And the helipad can accept 3 helicopters at once and is the most advanced hospital helipad in the US including approach lights.
Was it a .410 or something. If it was 12ga it would have to have been a #7.5 or #8 target load. Anything more would've blown the whole front of this head clean off.
It's interisting the way how the medical team care with such injuries, but I wonder why it's take so long time until the patient on ventral position! was intubed? From the place where he was shooted to the shok unit than take minimum 8 minutes maybe more!! Too much time! ABC Golden Hour,are americans notions . As european I'm estonished by this american video. It's seem as everybody loose their self control.
@debrouhns The patient was breathing on his own. He was placed prone since that was the only position where he could control his own airway. Had they paralyzed him and attempted to intubate in the field and failed he would have been in big trouble. Too much time FOR WHAT? He was stable the entire time. No one lost their self control. You have no idea what you are talking about. This is the finest EMS system and most respected trauma center in the world.
@seanofthedead90 That is not screaming. As soon as he is rolled over a breathing tube is inserted into his lungs. What you hear is the air rushing out of the tube as the patient coughs. Immediately after the tube was in place he was put to sleep under general anesthesia.
«Drs should have let him die» : In medical term, this man is probably physically healthier and has better chance to live than someone with a septic shock or acute heart infarction (and i do not think you would want to let someone with heart attack die). So Drs should not let people live if they are to be ugly and physically healthy but if they are to be good looking and physically ill its ok? Strange reasoning isn't it? You can't trace a limit when comes the time to decide who live and who die.
@AlypiusDC You might. The trauma center is a busy place with normal human interaction all around. I guarantee no laughter is present regarding this case. People that do this day in and day out do not find it funny....they take it very seriously.
@dumbbuck7 You might. The trauma center is a busy place with normal human interaction all around. I guarantee no laughter is present regarding this case. People that do this day in and day out do not find it funny....they take it very seriously.
@Jimthemedic Sine he was moving good air and followed commands, the only necessary, and the wisest, pre-hospital airway management was positional. He was transported prone which allowed the disrupted tissue to hang down keeping the airway clear.
why the fuck would you let the poor guy live? i mean if i tried to kill myself is because i do not want to live anymore and it's my right to live or not. don't you think that after this the guy would feel more miserable?
@fellerredseller Interestingly enough, these attempted shotgun suicide victims seem to realize how much they actually love life afterwards. I don't understand it. Maybe they needed it?
This makes me want to write my papers upon severe injury resulting in something like this. Actually I'm going to tell my parents as soon as I can that if I get severly injured like this or get dependant on life support, just kill me.
@LillemanPr0ductions It of course is always an excellent idea to have a living will that expresses your wishes for being kept alive by artificial means. However, no living will commonly used would cover a traumatic injury like this. In an emergency, when you are not terminally or chronically severely ill but rather otherwise healthy except for a traumatic injury, your living will is basically meaningless. Once stabilized it may direct how further care progresses.
dam, what an idiot, if your gonna commit suicide at least aim at your brain!! so instead of ending his misery he gets to live in far more misery for years to come. oh the irony
@andrewdkirschner he aimed for his brain directly? or put it in his mouth or below his chin? just sayin if i were to commit suicide i would aim it directly at the side of my head and i realize he flinched but still if your gonna kill yourself do it right! and i didn't call him a pussy clearly if your willing to pull the trigger its not an easy thing to do, it just sucks for him, thats all! i mean thats gotta be far worse then death, to have to live with that in that condition?
Let him DIE god. What kind of quality of life is he going to have. Can anyone really say "oh the law this and that". The man was miserable obviously, how do you think hes gonna feel looking like that. I'm sorry but it shouldn't be a matter of "its not our job" it should be a decision on what his quality of life is going to be like.
@MeepullStewray That is HIS decision to make, NOT the medical staff's. As mentioned before more than once, he was in fact not dying so there was no 'let him die' in the first place.
@trythinkingnow He wanted to die obviously. Once he gets fixed up they're obviously gonna have him on a load of medicine and they won't let him finish the job even if he wanted too. He would've died had nobody intervened I figure but I'm not an expert in that regard. These are what I based that opinion from.
E.M.T.s and medical personnel have a DUTY TO ACT.. and there are legal protocol against withholding medical treatment to someone for any reason other than if they specifically refuse treatment... it is also technically illegal to commit suicide.. as silly as this sounds, if someone tries and fails to kill themself, then they face criminal charges upon recovery...
Just because someone wants to die doesn't mean you should just let them die. I don't know much about the medical committee or if they have a code of honour, but they became doctors to save peoples lives regardless of the situation at hand. No one deserves to says who lives or dies other than God. Doctors just try their best to keep you from dying.
I'm sure it seems easy to imagine being angry if you were in the man who didn't succeed in suicide and survived because of those doctors, but what about putting yourself in the point of view of being someone with the power and opportunity to stop a man form dying.
A chunk of people who attempt suicide might now truly want to kill themselves and the doctors have no way of telling if he's one of those people.
I stumbled across this on a gore site (injuries fascinate me, what can i say?), didnt expect youtube would host something like this.
Regardless, what always impresses me about this real medical situation videos is the total calm the medical teams have in these situations. Its never the hectic chaos like you see in ER and hospital series.
Everyone from Hunters to PETA members agree that if you come across a seriously wounded animal, the merciful and humane thing to do is to kill it quickly. Why would you not do the same for a person who not only has the will to die but is in unimaginable physical pain and will be disfigured for the rest of his life. This is cruel and inhumane. If I were him, and I lived due to the efforts of a medical team, I would sue each and every person involved.
@fmandwc2 #1. We are not animals. We do not 'kill people quickly' in our emergency rooms. Physicians and nurses do not decide who should live and who should die based on a 3 minute report from paramedics or police. #2. You would sue each and every person involved for WHAT precisely? What theory of law are you basing your misguided litigation on? Living due to the efforts of a medical team? Are you kidding/
@medicvideo Yes we are animals, we are organisms which fall under the kingdom Animalia. I know you don't, but considering the circumstances you should. I would sue every person involved in keeping me alive, from the cops who showed up to the ambulance drivers to the team of doctors and nurses. If not criminal, then civil. You're torturing this person far worse than any other method of torture ever devised.
@fmandwc2 By your logic we should shoot people who have a broken leg...just like a horse. Since you cannot sue ANYONE "criminally", only in civil court, THAT decision is made for you. You have no case however and would be laughed from court. "You're torturing this person far worse than any other method of torture ever devised" is a stupid statement, and false. You might notice that the patient is awake and relatively calm on arrival. Once turned over he is put to sleep under general anesthesia.
@fmandwc2 And since, when it comes to medical care, we are the same as animals, perhaps you should see a veterinarian the next time you are sick? Obviously there must be no difference in care.... But don't forget, you are not allowed to talk or ask questions. Hunters and PETA don't allow it.
@medicvideo Veterinarians specialize in non-human animals. Doctors specialize in humans. And what are you talking about? Animals can't talk? Is that a law of nature? No, because it's not true. Dolphins have a language which they use to communicate, and humans use a wide range of media to relay communications.
@medicvideo I differentiated between non-human animals and humans, where is that saying that humans are not animals?
By the name of your youtube account plus the fact that you have access to these videos, I thought I was dealing with a professional, but you argue like a child.
@fmandwc2 I am afraid it is your arguments that are child like. You started with "Everyone from Hunters to PETA members agree that if you come across a seriously wounded animal, the merciful and humane thing to do is to kill it quickly. Why would you not do the same for a person...?"
I say again, humans are not animals. And you knew exactly what i meant before you began your silly "we are all animals" nonsense. Hunters and PETA have NOTHING to do with this discussion.
@medicvideo I know you don't. But you should. This isn't some case where somebody got injured in an accident, this is one where someone wanted to kill themselves, where they wanted to die, and failed. You recovering them is directly acting against their wishes, at great cost to them in both physical pain and psychological damage.
@fmandwc2 You may think we should, but the state says that is murder. Here is what you would have health care workers do: Assume the report from the field is correct that the incident is a self inflicted suicide attempt. Ignore the fact that you cannot talk to the patient. Kill the patient based on this third party information. How about overdoses? What injury is NOT significant enough for health care workers to go ahead and kill the patient? Nonsense.
@medicvideo If a patient signs a "do not resuscitate" order, you do not attempt to revive them, even though you could. If this man had bothered to write out to you that he wished to die and did not to you to save his life, would you have?
@fmandwc2 Now THAT is actually an interesting question. A suicidal patient is not considered competent to make decisions about his own health care however. So yes, he would be treated. For example, an individual who is suicidal cannot sign himself out of the hospital if he is deemed a danger to himself.
@fmandwc2 Also, understand that this patient was not in immediate danger of dying. He was not bleeding to death and was breathing on his own. If not treated he would likely live for DAYS before dying from infection or starvation.
@fmandwc2 Since this occurred in the early 1990's, and a 20 year relationship with patient's you treat on an emergency basis is rather rare, no current information is available. I can say however that he was discharged home, and rather than killing himself he returned for numerous re-constructive surgeries over at least the next year. Not only did he value his life and find it worth living, he found it had worth beyond the hardships he had to endure due to his injury.
@fmandwc2 Yes, that would definitely fix things, would it not? No, letting him die is the only real option in this case in my opinion. Until we have technology to restore this guys' face, there's no point in saving his life. If he wanted to kill himself before this, he's most definitely gonna want to kill himself afterwards also. He's left with no face, no sight, no smell probably, dont know about hearing.
@TeachMeProperDancin He retained sight and hearing and was alive at least 12 months out....so "most definitely" does not describe his desire to kill himself after this event.
I've always had a great deal of respect for Dr. Kevorkian. Facing prison terms and career suicide to end the horrible suffering that his terminally ill patients were forced to endure by doctors bent on keeping them alive for as long as medically possible while conveniently milking as much money out of them as they can until they finally die. Then hide behind and justify their means through that narrow minded self righteous fucking oath they take out of medical school...
it could have been accidently self inflicted. but yea from the looks of it it was a failed suicide attempt... something tells me he's gonna try it again, especially after his face got blown the f up.
I cannot even imagine what it would be like to be this guy. Imagine being in unbearable, unbelievable, horrific pain, and not being able to communicate that you're hurting, or any part of your condition. Good lord. Poor guy. Does anyone happen to have any updates on his well-being?
@CosmicDestroyer99 This is a common presentation when a shotgun or rifle is used for suicide. The only way the individual can reach the trigger is to angle the weapon's trigger towards them which leads to the under the chin and forward blast trajectory.
@medicvideo Really depends on how long the rifle or shotgun barrel is looks at some shotguns have pistol grips..Also has been known that people use there toes to pull the trigger if it is a long gun
Great Work, very good communication between the staff. quick intubation. any information on medication during Intubation? it seems that the patient coughed, so i guess there was no relaxation (sorry for my bad english)
@flyer55555 He was given an intubating dose of Succinylcholine while prone and then immediately turned supine. He did react to the ETT being inserted with one cough. This may be due to inadequate time between relaxant and intubation (<60 sec). Once the tube was in he was given an anesthetizing dose of sodium thiopental.
@medicvideo no morphine or sufentanil or something? just a thought because the standard rapid sequence induction in my hospital says Etomidate/succinycholine/fentanyl + cricoid-pressure(just a translation from german to english) like he was given until ETT was over.
Thiopental: am i right that he was given to prevent a rising ICP an protect his brain.
let the poor bastard die. how many of these people who blow their faces off and are kept alive, recovery mentally, and go on to lead a happy life? less than 5% is my guess. They should blow their brains out where nobody's around next time.
@medicvideo well there's enough people there to come up with a good idea I just think he should be put out of his misery. I didn't say anything about shooting him!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@gymparasite Because in the United States we do not judge patients as to whether their lives are worth living. We do not MURDER patients instead of treating them. To suggest that physicians who have never spoken with you and have spent 10 minutes in your presence should decide that you should die is absurd and nonsensical.
@medicvideo Your wrong. There have been some cases in medical literature on hemicorporectomy where the saving of ones life is refuse by doctors in USA. There were cases of traffic accidents where the only way to save the patient was with a hemicorporectomy but doctors judge in the ER that the patient would not want to live after that procedure so they just dont do it and let the patient die. I think a hemicorporectomy is not as bad as living without a face(senses) like this guy.
@gymparasite You are being ridiculous. A hemicorporetomy (cutting someone in half for layman) has only been DONE a few dozen times according to the literature. It is a VERY radical procedure that is a last chance effort to save the patient's life. Most surgeons could not even perform one.There is NO comparison between the two procedures. For starters, this patient was NOT dying. If the surgery were not performed death would have been slow and painful from starvation and infection.
Does anyone know if this man followed up with any kind of psychiatric/psychological evaluation/treatment? I'm just saying that if he was capable of doing this to himself once, he could do it again. Wow. Medicine is incredible.
SaveTheSoaps2012 5 hours ago in playlist cirugías maxilofacial
did he survive?
raptor700rbeast 1 day ago
@raptor700rbeast yes, he did, i hope he doesnt try kill himself again..
deviatea 1 day ago
I searched re-constructed chin dude.......
67Zaka 3 days ago
It's just amazing what some doctors can achieve... Miracles surround us every day...
bcfsl 6 days ago
What are they doing at 9:20??
07airforce 1 week ago
@07airforce Inserting a tracheostomy tube through an incision in the neck. The long breathing tube seen going into the face will then be removed.
medicvideo 5 days ago
duuuuuude.
ASacredSpirit 1 week ago
That's some crazy shit
Monstermatt44 3 weeks ago
Why they're even trying to save this man's life is beyond me, there are too many other more deserving injured/sick people that should have been in that helicopter IMHO.
Sin526 3 weeks ago
@Sin526 Why is it that you think mental illness (in this case leading to physical harm) is less "deserving" of treatment than more visible ailments? Is it because you're an ignorant piece of shit?
spartaaa 3 weeks ago
@Sin526 Actually, no there were not many other more deserving injured/sick people that should have been in that helicopter. There are 8 state police medevacs in Md. It has the most advanced EMS system in the US and the most respected trauma center in the world. No patients are more deserving than others and none are left behind because others are cared for. And the helipad can accept 3 helicopters at once and is the most advanced hospital helipad in the US including approach lights.
medicvideo 1 week ago
Was it a .410 or something. If it was 12ga it would have to have been a #7.5 or #8 target load. Anything more would've blown the whole front of this head clean off.
I can't believe he kept his vision.
MrBignutties 3 weeks ago
He is so lucky he got away with not only his life but a lot of his normal functions. This team is brilliant.
I have to ask, though. I've been watching a few videos of yours, and you've made some very educated replies. Are you a surgeon yourself?
Spericksen 4 weeks ago
@Spericksen My specialty is anesthesiology.
medicvideo 3 weeks ago
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CentralScorn 1 month ago
Where's the continuation video
HawaiianWarrior100 1 month ago
It's interisting the way how the medical team care with such injuries, but I wonder why it's take so long time until the patient on ventral position! was intubed? From the place where he was shooted to the shok unit than take minimum 8 minutes maybe more!! Too much time! ABC Golden Hour,are americans notions . As european I'm estonished by this american video. It's seem as everybody loose their self control.
debrouhns 2 months ago
@debrouhns The patient was breathing on his own. He was placed prone since that was the only position where he could control his own airway. Had they paralyzed him and attempted to intubate in the field and failed he would have been in big trouble. Too much time FOR WHAT? He was stable the entire time. No one lost their self control. You have no idea what you are talking about. This is the finest EMS system and most respected trauma center in the world.
medicvideo 2 months ago 5
i wonder what he looks like after it heals
best496 2 months ago
Did he survive?
WarmBloodParadise 2 months ago
@WarmBloodParadise Yes.
medicvideo 2 months ago
@WarmBloodParadise Yes, he did survive.
medicvideo 3 weeks ago
must've been birdshot since he pulled it and it just blew his face off a slug or buckshot would've removed most of the front half of his head
CarlsoSpiceyWeiner69 2 months ago
How old was this man?
countacolor 3 months ago
@countacolor Late 50's early 60's.
medicvideo 3 weeks ago
scusate ma fino all'arrivo del paziente in ospedale come sono state gestite le vie aeree? come mail il paz è stato trasportato in posizione prona?
firemen86 3 months ago
@firemen86 Il paziente poteva controllare le sue vie aeree proprio in posizione prona.
medicvideo 2 months ago
what i dont understand is how did this guy not die from blood loss. im glad he didnt but his entire face is gone....how did he survive this?
iBtRolliN20 3 months ago
@iBtRolliN20 "No large neck or brain vessel was involved..." in the desc
nemesiscavalry 3 months ago
@iBtRolliN20 You're glad he made it? Do you hate him or something?
MrVarsityphysics 3 months ago
@Zencrow101 No he was not.
medicvideo 3 months ago
He screams when they roll him over. Damn
seanofthedead90 4 months ago
@seanofthedead90 That is not screaming. As soon as he is rolled over a breathing tube is inserted into his lungs. What you hear is the air rushing out of the tube as the patient coughs. Immediately after the tube was in place he was put to sleep under general anesthesia.
medicvideo 3 months ago
@seanofthedead90 That sound was ghastly! e_e
2010Jakeypoo 3 months ago
«Drs should have let him die» : In medical term, this man is probably physically healthier and has better chance to live than someone with a septic shock or acute heart infarction (and i do not think you would want to let someone with heart attack die). So Drs should not let people live if they are to be ugly and physically healthy but if they are to be good looking and physically ill its ok? Strange reasoning isn't it? You can't trace a limit when comes the time to decide who live and who die.
B166ERG 4 months ago
this is damn hard case
EmotionalShredd 4 months ago
Damn, poor man! :(
AngelusFromHell 4 months ago
omg doctors are amazzing to get this guy bck to well normall all i saw was mush i would of thought tis guy was a goner
camacho6430 4 months ago
For future reference, never put the barrel under your chin. If you want to do it right, put the barrel in your mouth and aim towards the soft palate.
countacolor 4 months ago
where are his eyes??
SPIDEYTHREAD 4 months ago
@SPIDEYTHREAD His eyes are intact and in their normal position.
medicvideo 3 months ago
@medicvideo Holy fuck, so he could see after that? I figured he was like a blind mute. Did he try to commit suicide again?
avaiae 3 months ago
when a guy shoots himself in the face with a shotgun you should let him die
campesino6969 4 months ago
How could live like this he can't see nor breath!? The only oxygen he has is through his mouth probably, this is very sad.
N3RDProductionz 5 months ago
So is he still alive? This man is lucky. It's amazing how surgeons can completely reconstruct someone to keep them alive.
FMAfanFMA 5 months ago
You must be kidding me!!!He died????
Pantelis342 5 months ago
woe makes,me value my lifr!
whispers1136 5 months ago
btw.. doctors,nurses, hospital staff are amazing
pcfaulkner 6 months ago
how the hell do you begin to clean that up, jesus he was just a forehead!!!! fuck...i will not be shooting myself with a shotgun i tell thee
pcfaulkner 6 months ago
does anyone else hear the laughter in the background??
AlypiusDC 6 months ago 5
@AlypiusDC You might. The trauma center is a busy place with normal human interaction all around. I guarantee no laughter is present regarding this case. People that do this day in and day out do not find it funny....they take it very seriously.
medicvideo 6 months ago 11
@AlypiusDC theeres multiple times ive heard clear laughter
dumbbuck7 4 months ago
@dumbbuck7 You might. The trauma center is a busy place with normal human interaction all around. I guarantee no laughter is present regarding this case. People that do this day in and day out do not find it funny....they take it very seriously.
medicvideo 3 months ago
HOLY SHIT. i doubt this guy went home and lived a wonderful life after this. it was probably worse after then when it was when he shot himself.
yourfaceislameful 6 months ago
you think thats bad? I JUST LOST MY IPOD!!! the fuck am i supposed to do now?!?!
ThePoothyKnowsALL 6 months ago
Slick intubation! Great video!
spangler19 6 months ago
Was there any prehospital airway management? Very good vid!!
Jimthemedic 6 months ago
@Jimthemedic Sine he was moving good air and followed commands, the only necessary, and the wisest, pre-hospital airway management was positional. He was transported prone which allowed the disrupted tissue to hang down keeping the airway clear.
medicvideo 6 months ago
YOUR FACE GODDAMNIT!
dgcostarica1 6 months ago
He has one hell of a testamony , when its time its time i guess..
808upnu 6 months ago
Poor guy
mrbratsch 6 months ago
let the poor bastard die
chonchacon05 7 months ago
Is that him screaming at 6:23?
seanofthedead90 7 months ago
This is impressive if you read what he regained.
seanofthedead90 7 months ago
True those things are powerfol
cameltoejeans 7 months ago
Dammmm. It will make u think before u buy your next shot gun
cameltoejeans 7 months ago
@cameltoejeans No, it will make you think before trying to blow your own head off.
grandmasterreggaex 7 months ago
why the fuck would you let the poor guy live? i mean if i tried to kill myself is because i do not want to live anymore and it's my right to live or not. don't you think that after this the guy would feel more miserable?
fellerredseller 7 months ago 2
@fellerredseller Interestingly enough, these attempted shotgun suicide victims seem to realize how much they actually love life afterwards. I don't understand it. Maybe they needed it?
countacolor 4 months ago
This makes me want to write my papers upon severe injury resulting in something like this. Actually I'm going to tell my parents as soon as I can that if I get severly injured like this or get dependant on life support, just kill me.
LillemanPr0ductions 7 months ago
@LillemanPr0ductions It of course is always an excellent idea to have a living will that expresses your wishes for being kept alive by artificial means. However, no living will commonly used would cover a traumatic injury like this. In an emergency, when you are not terminally or chronically severely ill but rather otherwise healthy except for a traumatic injury, your living will is basically meaningless. Once stabilized it may direct how further care progresses.
medicvideo 7 months ago 2
@medicvideo
Intressting, thank you for sharing.
LillemanPr0ductions 7 months ago
I don't know if trying to keep this poor guy alive is an act of mercy.
mrbratsch 7 months ago
dam, what an idiot, if your gonna commit suicide at least aim at your brain!! so instead of ending his misery he gets to live in far more misery for years to come. oh the irony
cronicjointpain 7 months ago
@cronicjointpain
He aimed for his brain...
but he flinched when pulling the trigger and pulled the barrell forward towards his face
you could call him a pussy, but I doubt unloading a shotgun into your skull is the easiest thing to do.
andrewdkirschner 7 months ago
@andrewdkirschner Safe to say he fucked up. No matter how bad his life was before, shit just got real.
mager258987 7 months ago
@andrewdkirschner he aimed for his brain directly? or put it in his mouth or below his chin? just sayin if i were to commit suicide i would aim it directly at the side of my head and i realize he flinched but still if your gonna kill yourself do it right! and i didn't call him a pussy clearly if your willing to pull the trigger its not an easy thing to do, it just sucks for him, thats all! i mean thats gotta be far worse then death, to have to live with that in that condition?
cronicjointpain 7 months ago
Let him DIE god. What kind of quality of life is he going to have. Can anyone really say "oh the law this and that". The man was miserable obviously, how do you think hes gonna feel looking like that. I'm sorry but it shouldn't be a matter of "its not our job" it should be a decision on what his quality of life is going to be like.
MeepullStewray 7 months ago
@MeepullStewray That is HIS decision to make, NOT the medical staff's. As mentioned before more than once, he was in fact not dying so there was no 'let him die' in the first place.
trythinkingnow 7 months ago
@trythinkingnow He wanted to die obviously. Once he gets fixed up they're obviously gonna have him on a load of medicine and they won't let him finish the job even if he wanted too. He would've died had nobody intervened I figure but I'm not an expert in that regard. These are what I based that opinion from.
MeepullStewray 7 months ago
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MeepullStewray 7 months ago
E.M.T.s and medical personnel have a DUTY TO ACT.. and there are legal protocol against withholding medical treatment to someone for any reason other than if they specifically refuse treatment... it is also technically illegal to commit suicide.. as silly as this sounds, if someone tries and fails to kill themself, then they face criminal charges upon recovery...
jofusness 7 months ago
meine fresse.... kann den niemand erlösen? er wollte sich umbringen, die beleben ihn wieder und sein leben ist noch beschissener als vorher
keinemachtdenfrauen 8 months ago
Just because someone wants to die doesn't mean you should just let them die. I don't know much about the medical committee or if they have a code of honour, but they became doctors to save peoples lives regardless of the situation at hand. No one deserves to says who lives or dies other than God. Doctors just try their best to keep you from dying.
lj234LIFE 8 months ago
what happened to that guy later, did he survive...???
lahalamahala 8 months ago
I skipped through parts of the video, did they put him on anesthetic or something?
mm1227952 8 months ago
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LOL - what an idiot
rabidgoon 8 months ago
Was he avoiding the Rapture on May 21? He should have used 00 Buckshot to do the trick.
Derail07 8 months ago
I'm sure it seems easy to imagine being angry if you were in the man who didn't succeed in suicide and survived because of those doctors, but what about putting yourself in the point of view of being someone with the power and opportunity to stop a man form dying.
A chunk of people who attempt suicide might now truly want to kill themselves and the doctors have no way of telling if he's one of those people.
He can go home and try again if he really wants.
ProblemsInNumbers 8 months ago
I love videos as this :)
vivadimebagdarrell 9 months ago
I stumbled across this on a gore site (injuries fascinate me, what can i say?), didnt expect youtube would host something like this.
Regardless, what always impresses me about this real medical situation videos is the total calm the medical teams have in these situations. Its never the hectic chaos like you see in ER and hospital series.
Professionals.
Poor schmuck, though.
WindmillStalker 9 months ago
Everyone from Hunters to PETA members agree that if you come across a seriously wounded animal, the merciful and humane thing to do is to kill it quickly. Why would you not do the same for a person who not only has the will to die but is in unimaginable physical pain and will be disfigured for the rest of his life. This is cruel and inhumane. If I were him, and I lived due to the efforts of a medical team, I would sue each and every person involved.
fmandwc2 9 months ago
@fmandwc2 #1. We are not animals. We do not 'kill people quickly' in our emergency rooms. Physicians and nurses do not decide who should live and who should die based on a 3 minute report from paramedics or police. #2. You would sue each and every person involved for WHAT precisely? What theory of law are you basing your misguided litigation on? Living due to the efforts of a medical team? Are you kidding/
medicvideo 9 months ago
@medicvideo Yes we are animals, we are organisms which fall under the kingdom Animalia. I know you don't, but considering the circumstances you should. I would sue every person involved in keeping me alive, from the cops who showed up to the ambulance drivers to the team of doctors and nurses. If not criminal, then civil. You're torturing this person far worse than any other method of torture ever devised.
fmandwc2 9 months ago
@fmandwc2 By your logic we should shoot people who have a broken leg...just like a horse. Since you cannot sue ANYONE "criminally", only in civil court, THAT decision is made for you. You have no case however and would be laughed from court. "You're torturing this person far worse than any other method of torture ever devised" is a stupid statement, and false. You might notice that the patient is awake and relatively calm on arrival. Once turned over he is put to sleep under general anesthesia.
medicvideo 9 months ago
@fmandwc2 And since, when it comes to medical care, we are the same as animals, perhaps you should see a veterinarian the next time you are sick? Obviously there must be no difference in care.... But don't forget, you are not allowed to talk or ask questions. Hunters and PETA don't allow it.
medicvideo 9 months ago
@medicvideo Veterinarians specialize in non-human animals. Doctors specialize in humans. And what are you talking about? Animals can't talk? Is that a law of nature? No, because it's not true. Dolphins have a language which they use to communicate, and humans use a wide range of media to relay communications.
fmandwc2 9 months ago
@fmandwc2 Oh...so now we ARE different from animals. Make up your mind.
medicvideo 9 months ago
@medicvideo I differentiated between non-human animals and humans, where is that saying that humans are not animals?
By the name of your youtube account plus the fact that you have access to these videos, I thought I was dealing with a professional, but you argue like a child.
fmandwc2 9 months ago
@fmandwc2 I am afraid it is your arguments that are child like. You started with "Everyone from Hunters to PETA members agree that if you come across a seriously wounded animal, the merciful and humane thing to do is to kill it quickly. Why would you not do the same for a person...?"
I say again, humans are not animals. And you knew exactly what i meant before you began your silly "we are all animals" nonsense. Hunters and PETA have NOTHING to do with this discussion.
medicvideo 9 months ago
@fmandwc2 We do not "put people down". Even the most severe of injuries can be treated and recovered from. Your proposition is absurd.
medicvideo 9 months ago
@medicvideo I know you don't. But you should. This isn't some case where somebody got injured in an accident, this is one where someone wanted to kill themselves, where they wanted to die, and failed. You recovering them is directly acting against their wishes, at great cost to them in both physical pain and psychological damage.
fmandwc2 9 months ago
@fmandwc2 You may think we should, but the state says that is murder. Here is what you would have health care workers do: Assume the report from the field is correct that the incident is a self inflicted suicide attempt. Ignore the fact that you cannot talk to the patient. Kill the patient based on this third party information. How about overdoses? What injury is NOT significant enough for health care workers to go ahead and kill the patient? Nonsense.
medicvideo 9 months ago
@medicvideo If a patient signs a "do not resuscitate" order, you do not attempt to revive them, even though you could. If this man had bothered to write out to you that he wished to die and did not to you to save his life, would you have?
fmandwc2 9 months ago
@fmandwc2 Now THAT is actually an interesting question. A suicidal patient is not considered competent to make decisions about his own health care however. So yes, he would be treated. For example, an individual who is suicidal cannot sign himself out of the hospital if he is deemed a danger to himself.
medicvideo 9 months ago
@fmandwc2 Also, understand that this patient was not in immediate danger of dying. He was not bleeding to death and was breathing on his own. If not treated he would likely live for DAYS before dying from infection or starvation.
medicvideo 9 months ago
@medicvideo How is he doing now? Has he recovered enough to comment on your work?
fmandwc2 9 months ago
@fmandwc2 Since this occurred in the early 1990's, and a 20 year relationship with patient's you treat on an emergency basis is rather rare, no current information is available. I can say however that he was discharged home, and rather than killing himself he returned for numerous re-constructive surgeries over at least the next year. Not only did he value his life and find it worth living, he found it had worth beyond the hardships he had to endure due to his injury.
medicvideo 8 months ago
@fmandwc2 Yes, that would definitely fix things, would it not? No, letting him die is the only real option in this case in my opinion. Until we have technology to restore this guys' face, there's no point in saving his life. If he wanted to kill himself before this, he's most definitely gonna want to kill himself afterwards also. He's left with no face, no sight, no smell probably, dont know about hearing.
TeachMeProperDancin 8 months ago
@TeachMeProperDancin It appears his hearing is intact due to response from veral stimuli.
thewobblyorange1987 8 months ago
@TeachMeProperDancin He retained sight and hearing and was alive at least 12 months out....so "most definitely" does not describe his desire to kill himself after this event.
medicvideo 8 months ago
What is this mans condition? does anyone have a update
doc105 9 months ago
Where is the rest of the video ?
TurkishWarrior80 9 months ago
@iGAMEiNSANE nahh, it would have took out the nurves in his face so he cant feel anything
cejason 9 months ago
@cejason Are you 100% sure of that?
nortenero 9 months ago
@nortenero yes my grandad was a doctor, he told me that the nerves would have been taken out in the blast
cejason 9 months ago
ouw noooooooooo
lamongan1000 9 months ago
And after he recovered...he went home and shot himself properly...
ElectrumShiv 9 months ago
Ironically he still is better looking than me :(
EnglishJohnnie 9 months ago
@EnglishJohnnie
Idk Johnnie, your pretty cute
w00bii 9 months ago
@w00bii Lool Thanks :D
EnglishJohnnie 9 months ago
@EnglishJohnnie That's not irony.
ProblemsInNumbers 8 months ago
Unbelievable! He recovered well...even regained sight and speech.
a1vocalcoachdotcom 9 months ago
Why spend all that money to try to save him? He wanted to die, so let him.
DamageIncorporated 9 months ago
Incredible work the medical professionals are capable of!
passive101 9 months ago
I've always had a great deal of respect for Dr. Kevorkian. Facing prison terms and career suicide to end the horrible suffering that his terminally ill patients were forced to endure by doctors bent on keeping them alive for as long as medically possible while conveniently milking as much money out of them as they can until they finally die. Then hide behind and justify their means through that narrow minded self righteous fucking oath they take out of medical school...
lmos26 9 months ago
@lmos26 Dr. Kevorkian would NOT have euthanized this man. This man was not terminally ill. Dr. Kevorkian would've turned this man down.
countacolor 4 months ago
doctors will try and keep you alive no matter what and this is the worst example of that policy
lmos26 9 months ago
@lmos26 I could not agree more. If this was me, I'd be so fucking pissed they kept me alive
Eyesex 9 months ago
@Eyesex If anything I hope this video will teach other suicidal people to make damn sure they do it right.
lmos26 9 months ago
i cannot bear to see this...
maplegears 9 months ago
amateur cowboys transport a patient prone
BlackDongs2Dextreme 9 months ago
did he live?
highlife231 9 months ago
was he put into an indused coma at all?
soniasonia 9 months ago
Poor guy. Hearing him wimper makes me want to cry. Poor thing wanted out of his misery but just caused himself more.
soniasonia 9 months ago
@soniasonia
What makes you think it was a suicide attempt? It could have been an accident.
MrKra7as 9 months ago
@MrKra7as read the description. It was self inflicted =(
soniasonia 9 months ago
@soniasonia
it could have been accidently self inflicted. but yea from the looks of it it was a failed suicide attempt... something tells me he's gonna try it again, especially after his face got blown the f up.
MrKra7as 9 months ago
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soniasonia 9 months ago
wtf....guy try to kill him self and survives,now hes going to look like the elephant man
40ozsipper 9 months ago
I cannot even imagine what it would be like to be this guy. Imagine being in unbearable, unbelievable, horrific pain, and not being able to communicate that you're hurting, or any part of your condition. Good lord. Poor guy. Does anyone happen to have any updates on his well-being?
greysquare7 9 months ago
holy shit!!
MunicipalDude 9 months ago
Awful. Why bother saving him?
an3urysm 9 months ago
he lived and got sent home a few weeks later
GrayishPlacebo 9 months ago
Did he died?
turion459 9 months ago
Never under the chin..In the mouth(yeah make a joke) or to the fore head
CosmicDestroyer99 9 months ago
@CosmicDestroyer99 This is a common presentation when a shotgun or rifle is used for suicide. The only way the individual can reach the trigger is to angle the weapon's trigger towards them which leads to the under the chin and forward blast trajectory.
medicvideo 9 months ago
@medicvideo Really depends on how long the rifle or shotgun barrel is looks at some shotguns have pistol grips..Also has been known that people use there toes to pull the trigger if it is a long gun
CosmicDestroyer99 9 months ago
are there any after photos? I know everyone here would love to see some
LovesToSpooge77 9 months ago 3
@w00bii no. thats a shitty site noob
sdry 9 months ago
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w00bii 9 months ago
imagine him sneezing.
MrThatmeanguy1995 9 months ago
Great Work, very good communication between the staff. quick intubation. any information on medication during Intubation? it seems that the patient coughed, so i guess there was no relaxation (sorry for my bad english)
flyer55555 9 months ago
@flyer55555 He was given an intubating dose of Succinylcholine while prone and then immediately turned supine. He did react to the ETT being inserted with one cough. This may be due to inadequate time between relaxant and intubation (<60 sec). Once the tube was in he was given an anesthetizing dose of sodium thiopental.
medicvideo 9 months ago
@medicvideo no morphine or sufentanil or something? just a thought because the standard rapid sequence induction in my hospital says Etomidate/succinycholine/fentanyl + cricoid-pressure(just a translation from german to english) like he was given until ETT was over.
Thiopental: am i right that he was given to prevent a rising ICP an protect his brain.
flyer55555 9 months ago
@w00bii
Nahh.. goregrish. :P
Sk8trboy54321 9 months ago
let the poor bastard die. how many of these people who blow their faces off and are kept alive, recovery mentally, and go on to lead a happy life? less than 5% is my guess. They should blow their brains out where nobody's around next time.
joebarrrs 9 months ago
so he was suicidial so they fixed him up and sent him home with no eyes or face, what do they think will happen next
morphUK1973 9 months ago
they should put this poor bastard out of his misery!!!!!
brainiac409 9 months ago 2
@brainiac409 Really? Should they shoot him again or how exactly would you suggest he be killed and by whom precisely?
medicvideo 9 months ago
@medicvideo well there's enough people there to come up with a good idea I just think he should be put out of his misery. I didn't say anything about shooting him!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brainiac409 9 months ago
@medicvideo shotgun surgeon
coolfordro 9 months ago
did he died?
DidHeDied 9 months ago
why people saved him? He wanted to die so let him. Saving him will force him to live with sever disfigurement
gymparasite 9 months ago
@gymparasite Because in the United States we do not judge patients as to whether their lives are worth living. We do not MURDER patients instead of treating them. To suggest that physicians who have never spoken with you and have spent 10 minutes in your presence should decide that you should die is absurd and nonsensical.
medicvideo 9 months ago 10
@medicvideo Your wrong. There have been some cases in medical literature on hemicorporectomy where the saving of ones life is refuse by doctors in USA. There were cases of traffic accidents where the only way to save the patient was with a hemicorporectomy but doctors judge in the ER that the patient would not want to live after that procedure so they just dont do it and let the patient die. I think a hemicorporectomy is not as bad as living without a face(senses) like this guy.
gymparasite 9 months ago
@gymparasite You are being ridiculous. A hemicorporetomy (cutting someone in half for layman) has only been DONE a few dozen times according to the literature. It is a VERY radical procedure that is a last chance effort to save the patient's life. Most surgeons could not even perform one.There is NO comparison between the two procedures. For starters, this patient was NOT dying. If the surgery were not performed death would have been slow and painful from starvation and infection.
medicvideo 9 months ago
@gymparasite As for not having 'senses', his eyesight and hearing were unaffected and he was able to regain speach.
medicvideo 9 months ago
@medicvideo i say they should've said "squeeze my finger once for us to try and save you and twice for us to kill you" and let him decide
GoDieProductions 9 months ago
@medicvideo well said my friend, well said
applekid64 9 months ago