You must open your mind and realize that not everything your parents and relatives say are right. Imagine if your entire family were Christians and they would have kicked you out of the family if they found out you converted to another religion. Would you still be in Islam today? Think hard about this. Have you even read the Bible, the Torah, or the bhagavad gita? How do you know YOUR cult is the right one if you haven't even seen another religious book besides the Q'uran?
organic and inorganic material are the SAME THING. besides, how the first organism came to be is Abiogenesis, not evolution, evolution is about how life evolved after it started. we basically don't know how, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
plants didn't turn to animals or insect. about fish changing to dinosaurs, check the numerous transitional fossils in stead of asking the same lame questions.
fish can't turn into dinosaur by magic, it takes MILLIONS of years.
@raafat1999 interesting, because I don't know how it started it means that is has to be Allah? there could be billions of explanations, God or Allah aren't supported by any evidence therefore they are the least probable.
@raafat1999 (Part 1) where is your evidence for Allah? You ask us for evidence to find out how it started and yet when we ask you how Allah started you cannot say a thing besides "he was always there." Hypocritical is it not? Maybe when you are older you will find out that not everything your parents tell you is correct and that if you bothered to look outside your little bubble and open yourself up you'll find out that your cult is only one of millions of different cults out there.
(oart 2) and if you say "me and my parents have experienced Allah" then I can say so has everyone else from every other cult in this world - Do you mean to say that all these cults are true? In order for your cult to be proved true not only do you have to provide evidence for the existence of your God but you must also disprove the millions of other cults in this world. Although we admit that we don't have the answer In Science we are actively searching for the truth.
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt and that me they should have someone put these idea on it, if u say that u dont see god, that is not an answer, and the history of atheism when in middle age the church was control ppl by claim that its the hand of god and they stole money of the ppl, so the idea of denying god appear, any way why all cult go around the idea of god and they different in the way they present him and how to worship him that mean its a need
@raafat1999 You are absolutely wrong. Atheism did not just "appear" because of the church's lies. Everyone was an atheist - no one was born thinking that one religion was right. Their parents had to brainwash them into thinking that their cult was right. And children who did not believe that Allah was God were immediately stoned to death or taken out of the family. So where was the choice? You were forced into your cult whether it be Islam, Judaism, or any other religion.
(part 3) Instead of reading thousand year old cultist books filled with contradictions for the answers to how life started - we look around us and apply science with well-back evidence to find the answer - We are close to finding how life started. Atheists don't believe in God because there is no satisfactory evidence that there is a God - only when we know that there is a God will we choose to praise and worship him. We will NOT take our chances with books made by homeless wandering cave-men.
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt good, when u start to speak that mean u want to find the right thing, first u has to do is go out and see nature, it should be a creator for this world because there is a system, and system should has a creator, if u has a computer first u should has an operating system to work with it, u should load it and that mean u r the programmer, aand the same for the world should has a creator- how animal learn to eat and drink and have sex, ...cont.
@raafat1999 Let us just say there is a creator for a second - why is it that Allah is the true creator and not other Gods from different Cults? How come Adi parashakti is not the Creator of the universe? I see that nature grows on its own - I see the beautiful and magnificent product of billions of years of evolution right before my eyes. I DO NOT see a God floating his wand around making sure the birds sing to attract mates, the bees pollinate the flowers, or the sky does not turn green.
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt why we assume that pyramids r human made not nature made?and we speak about universe that mean many laws and logic,and allah apoke about himself and said that he is faster than light so we cant see him,and u wasnt there when universe was created so ur theory is not true and all ancient civilization spoke about gods and u dont take that into consideration, u consider u r the only science in the world even there r many ancient science, now science dont know it
@raafat1999 (Part 1) we don't assume that pyramids were nature made - we know for a fact they aren't because through science we see that pyramids are not natural - they don't occur in nature plus there are records and hyroglyphics that were kept of humans making the pyramids. And you were not there when the the universe was created too - so how do you know that the universe was created by Allah? Do you beleive that just because ancient civilizations said something is true that makes it true?
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt i dont know?! u say pyramids could not appear naturally but a universe with a big system could appear with no creator?!!!! i cant suppose that has no creator by my mind only, sometimes i see ppl do something i cant imagine, the creator who put all these system in this universe i dont think he is like a human
@raafat1999 You look at things so simply. Your excuse for everything that you cannot solve for yourself is God. God made this and God made that. Instead of just saying that there is a God at least Atheists try and find out the truth. You cult-worshipers just say that God did it. The difference between the pyramids being made by humans and the universe being made by God is that there is evidence that the Pyramids were made by humans while there is no evidence that the universe is made by God.
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt first why all of athiest say the same thing no change, who told u that my parents brainwashed me? and why they will did it? and who told u that they force me to be muslim? who told u that i choose to be muslim? and why u all have the same image about islam? u claim that u didnot see god when he made the universe and there is no prove that universe came alone...
@raafat1999 Because I hear stories from the news, family, and testimonies from converted Muslims that their parents disowned them and their relatives stopped talking to them after they became Christian. I ask you to pretend you are an Atheist for one full day and see how your parents will react. You must convince them that you are an actual Atheist. This will be dangerous so ask a trusted friend to come over your house. See for yourself if they force you to believe.
@raafat1999 (Part 2) I never claimed that the universe came alone - I told you once and I'll say it again Atheists DO NOT KNOW how the universe started but at least we are LOOKING for the answer and not being lazy and using God as the answer for the unexplained. You became Muslim because of your parents not because it is the right cult - if your parents were Christian you would be Christian, if your parents were Buddhists you would be Buddhist it is as simple as that.
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt thank u for telling me, my parents r so bad, they told me im a human, but what is true im a monkey (according to u), they told me there is a life after death so do a good thing to ppl so u get heaven, i should follow what u think that there is no life and i can do any thing to live this life only... to kill, to steal to do anything in this life, tell me what do u think is the right the one who believe i should do good to ppl to get heaven or the one with no principle
@raafat1999 Are religious people so selfish and immoral that they would kill, steal, and rape if there was no God looking over their shoulder all the time? I am an atheist and I do not need a divine being to give me eternal life and threaten me with eternal damnation for me to abide by the law and be moral but you people do. That is how sick and perverted religious people are - the only thing holding them back from doing such hideous disgusting things is a God watching over their shoulder.
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt OK...u dont ned a divine, so can u have sex with ur mother or sister? animal do that... if not why? according to what this is sick? according to religious ppl this is bad...what about u is this bad? and what is ur law?
@raafat1999 yes I do believe that having sex with your family is sick - but only because it goes against my own morals and not because some divine entity told me so. I follow my own morals and the law of the land. However I do believe you should be able to have sex with family members if you want to. You seem to be forgetting that according to your religion Adam and Eve's sons and daughters had sex with each-other plenty of times in order to populate the earth and Allah didn't stop them.
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt yes they did... and u r not u dont do that because u follow divine laws, not because u dont want to, and what about killing is it wrong? animals do that that mean its ok for u to do that... and what about lying is it wrong ? and according to what? eating humans is it ok? some tribes do that what make it wrong?
@raafat1999 how do i follow it because of divine laws when I don't even believe that a God exists? Yes killing for no reason is wrong because it goes against my morals and the law of the land. Animals don't kill their own kind unless it's for a reason. Yes tribes did use cannibalism but only after their relatives died and I believe that kind of cannibalism is completely acceptable. You do not need a God for that. Search up Sociology and study it.
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt i dont know what the kind of ppl u r??!!! if u give it nice name that doesnot mean it become nice thing... and that what this theory lead to. human will not be human, and the funny thing that u change the name and make it acceptable, eat human make it cannibalism and it will be ok(inculde babies) what i can say i hope u meet these tribes....when they r hungry
@raafat1999 (Part 1) Im not giving it a nice name. Sociology is the study of how humans act when they are in contact with other humans. The only reason why you think cannibalism is wrong is because of the people around you not because of some divine power. I would never eat another human being because of the society around me - I grew up in a society that believed eating other human beings whether or not they are dead is wrong.
@raafat1999 (Part 2) If I grew up in that tribe who thought eating their dead relatives would grant their loved ones safe passage to the after-life than I would surely take part in that. And tribes did not eat each-other unless it was for a special occasion like a religious sacrifice to the gods or to get their relatives to the after-life. Very rarely did you see any human being eat another one just because he was hungry.
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt ok i believe that believing in god will giv me a good life after life with no eating human thing issue and according to sociology..... look im thinking to visit u and live the way u live to understand why u think the way u think and invite u to live the way i live to know the way i think, and this is the cociology lesson for u, what is ur name and is u man or woman and how old r u?
@raafat1999 what do you mean by coming to visit me and live the way I live? I live in Long Island, New York and if the information on your profile is correct you live in Jordan. It would be impossible for me to come there or for you to come here. I am 18 years old and a man if you need to know.
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt look the way ur parents raise u or the community around u make u believe the way u believe and that make think the way u think and make u judge ppl according to what u believe and it same here they teach me what i think know ... i ask u to do so, so u can know what the other side think, i thought u r older than that u seem well educated, and no its not impossible but u still a boy may be in the future when u want to learn
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt and about the ancient civilizations they reach to an idea that who create the world should be worshiped and they made something represent him
You have clearly not read one iota on evolution. Please read something. Suggest starting point: Dawkins: Climbing Mount Improbable.
You say atheists have claimed that life has been made in a laboratory. Not true. No educated atheist state that. The fact is we are right now rapidly closing in on the origin of life. Try google abiogenesis. When we succeed, science will have closed off one more god hidey hole. And kicked the snot out of religion. Again.
The law of conservation of energy states that the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant. A consequence of this law is that energy cannot be created or destroyed. The only thing that can happen with energy in an isolated system is that it can change form, for instance kinetic energy can become thermal energy.
evolution takes matter. Matter can not just be here. If we can destroy our earth and its matter by not protecting it, then it is impossible for it to be powerfull enough to just be here. The Holy Spirit ( and even if you are not Christian) some all powerfull force that is always here, that penetrates us has to create the matter.
As far as we know matter and energy can neither be created or destroyed, they can just change from, so it points towards the conclusion, that matter and energy are eternal.
there is not enough evidence towards your oppinion. yes we can destroy energy we have been doing it slowly for a long time now. watch the video. I respect your views please respect mine. I want to put you on my show sometime for a debate over the phone.
mrsnabeel, -- what !! you talk of facts then when I tell you the FACT that mohammed was a pedophile (he was fucking a 9 year old girl) and he was a mass murderer (he killed thousands of people in acts of banditry, cutting off their hands so they bled to death) you don't want to know!
Amazing! do you deny that mohammed killed thousands and that he was fucking a 9 year old girl?
a region of space having a gravitational field so intense that no matter or radiation can escape.
Black holes are probably formed when a massive star exhausts its nuclear fuel and collapses under its own gravity. If the star is massive enough, no known force can counteract the increasing gravity, and it will collapse to a point of infinite density. Before this stage is reached, within a certain radius (the event horizon), light itself becomes trapped and the object becomes invisible.
Western Science discovers phenomenon like black holes existing in the universe. Then, because you muslims are ashamed of how backward you are, you go through your holy books to find words that mean anything and then say: "Look, look, the koran here gives a description of black holes"!
MRSnabeel- Yes, you are so correct in your perfect understanding of psychology!!
Why didn't I realise that abusing people whose questions you cannot answer would make them become muslims! ??
Silly me. Now I have had half my brain removed and I am now muslim.
I will question nothing anymore nor think for myself, but will simply bang my silly empty onto the ground 5 times a day and lust after my neighbours' goats.
I have a copy of the koran here and yes, you are so right and I was so wrong!!
I have found the koran gives me details on how to build: MOBILE PHONES, THE AIRPLANE, THE CAR, THE TELEVISION, THE NUCLEAR BOMB, THE INTERNET, CDs, DVDs, COMPUTERS.
How could I have missed that! WOW, I am so foolish.
And the koran reveals history to me, such as when the second world war would happen, when the moon landings would take place.
If you are genuinely interested in learning how life evolved on earth, how it started, then I suggest do a simple internet search on google - type in "Origins of life on earth"
I am not prepared to get involved in a "debate" with you about some sky pixie creating the universe blah blah, because that simply gives sky pixie nonsense credibility.
Look, research and learn, and leave the immature and stupid religious mumbo-jumbo behind you.
u keep islam cenors all the media, from where u get this, where in islam say that?
and let us remember the labrary of bagdad before 1000years ago where ur nations were in the dark, let us dont forget Instruments of forgiveness of urs
i dont remove any comments, and all ur science u speak about came from islam nation in spain, 500years ago, and all our scientists now have two choice, work with westren country or die, for u to know
so dont speak about our scientists, and dont u see news? all islamic countries r under attack of ur countries
Jeeeeeeez, this vid is worse than dumb. And for a muslim that is difficult to do, cos there are so many extremely dumb muslim videos on YouTube.
This little jerk has just written as his badly educated (& virtually illiterate) muslim brain dictates, without engaging the thinking part of his mind.
Tap, tap, tappity tap go his clumsy little paws upon the keyboard.
in islam we have science more than u. actually ur country stole our science and scientist, for u to know america first thing did in iraq was to killl more than 200 scientist, and all the war in islam do u why?
Raafat 1999 -- the islamic has virtually no science.
the tiny country of Izrael has more scientists than the entire arab world put together!
There is no thirst for knowledge in the muslim world, only for silly and worthless religious nit-picking debate
Spain translates more books into spanish each year than the entire muslim world has translated over THE PAST THOUSAND YEARS (Source, the United Nations)
Now, what does that lack of intellectual curiosity lead to?
Islam has done a fine job murdering their own scientists..so good infact ..they are an extinct species in islam..
Which muslim scientist will ever get to the moon ..or produce anything for the benefit of mankind ..islam suffocates any innovative ideas ..why because those ideas conflict with islam's ideology & will prove it is of no use to anyone..
Obviously you got no idea what evolution is. So just for your own good, don't even try to understand it, it would just make your head hurt from too much information.
No you don't, you proved it in this video of yours that you don't have the slightest idea about it. You need to do a lot more research, but something tells me the info wouldn't stick into your head no matter what.
"but u believe in idea its nothing but imaginary story"
actually, i dont believe. im "a"-theist. without theism. so its you, the theists who believe...
"its should be someone support u or pay to u"
dat was of course only a rhetorical trick. in the sense of when you deliver evidence i will indeed become a believer. yet where is the evidence? none... on the contrary there is plenty of counter evidence...
with all evidence i provid to u and u dont want to believe, the whole idea of evolution is nothing, i ask u what give the life to first living organism and u dont give me an answer, i prove to u with many information that ur ideas is follow of shit but u dont want to believe
"with all evidence i provid to u and u dont want to believe,"
what was that? demagoguery and fallacies? well, its not sound to believe that. thats for sure.
"the whole idea of evolution is nothing,"
the whole idea of evilution is a scientific theory and a scientific fact. there are dozens of applied sciences too. there is no escape from evilutionl.
"i ask u what give the life to first living organism"
i gave you info about latest research. yet that is rather irrelevant when talking evilution.
"Simple answer people, evolution is the answer to how, but not why... " I agree. but to suggest that there is a "why?" is to presuppose a reasoning mind to have a reason why!
You miss the point,,,,read my comment again!! ...And the philosophical point I was replying to.....To ask "why " the universe came into being is to preassume a purposeful reason, which pre assumes an intelligent designer!
But further evidence opens up that the Quran is indeed talking about a flat earth. Quran 18:47 says, "On that day we shall remove the mountains, and thou wilt see the earth as a level stretch..." (see also 20:104-107). In other words 18:47 & 20:107 are saying that once the mountains are removed, we will see to the end of the world, which is flat.
The Quran has other errors of nature, where 51:49, says of life in creation, "And of everything we have created pairs that ye may reflect" (see also 43:12; 50:7). So for all animals they are created in pairs. This is an obvious denial of the fact that numerous species produce asexually, not in pairs.
the cape bee Apis mellifera capensis (which can reproduce asexually through a process called thelytoky). A few species of amphibians and reptiles have the same ability
ever see a ship appear at the horizon?....no it will be so far and i can see it, and its not a good example to prove the sphere for earth.... u actually see it flat
and about pairs, u say it every bee has a two pair of sexually so its pairs, if it make sex with each other
observation says the earth is round. one only needs to observe properly. oh, since you relate to "ur observation". if the kuran refers to "ur observation" then its not from "allah" but rather from humans, because all it delivers is simple human observation. divine intervention is not needed to explain simple human observation...
no u cant believe in evolution and be a christian, u can believe on a pary of evolution(like what i did) but not all, not to prove that allah is not exist
natural selection = a set of theories explaining observation
are you claiming that up to 200 years of ever improving observations, predictions and applications (applied sciences) are wrong?
on what bases are you claiming that? have you published your findings in scientific PRJs? how did you disprove, or eventually re-explain what is "operative"? im very curious...
Wikipedia offers many articles on Abiogenesis, Evolution, the Big Bang Theory, Atheism and other interresting stuff.
It may not always be that precise, but they are working on it everyday.
You can get so much information, that is easy to understand, so please use this before making useless attempts to disprove theories you have no idea about.
i want to tell u a story, my home, its amazing, when stones start to collect to each other maybe by wind, and then start to organized in walls and columns and then the roof, alone really, and then the furniture and windows, i say alone then it become a home then we move to it
just like that, and i can give u pics, when i came to it and i did not see anyman around it, do u want to see the pics how my home without creator...(how a nonorganic material come to eachother to become a cell)
i can prove by pics (Fossils) that my home came alone, there is no creator to my home.... and about evidance, they spend alot of it to make u dont follow religion and allah discripe it in quran... so i invite u to follow islam and open ur mind, just try it, its an easy way,
take a bath then stand and say(allah if u exist, show me the way to u and make me follow it) just try,
I also know the sharia. It is the body of the islamic law and the laws in the sharia are against democracy, against the freedom of religion (and freedom from religion) and those laws supress women.
so u say that about islam and i see thats wrong, and i say what i say about athiest and u say thats wrong, so each other see that we r wrong, islam give women right more than men, man should prove a good life for women but woman not...this is islam
so... since you have this secret knowledge, how come you havent been that successful in using it in the natural world? are you trying to sell us here an empty potato sack ? :))
this is the point, they do all what they can to prove islam is wrong, not to prove if islam is correct or not, all media show islam as what u discripe it, just try to look for what islam and quran say, with scientific view, consider quran as a unknown book and u just read
You must open your mind and realize that not everything your parents and relatives say are right. Imagine if your entire family were Christians and they would have kicked you out of the family if they found out you converted to another religion. Would you still be in Islam today? Think hard about this. Have you even read the Bible, the Torah, or the bhagavad gita? How do you know YOUR cult is the right one if you haven't even seen another religious book besides the Q'uran?
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 7 months ago
organic and inorganic material are the SAME THING. besides, how the first organism came to be is Abiogenesis, not evolution, evolution is about how life evolved after it started. we basically don't know how, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
plants didn't turn to animals or insect. about fish changing to dinosaurs, check the numerous transitional fossils in stead of asking the same lame questions.
fish can't turn into dinosaur by magic, it takes MILLIONS of years.
JohnMUTDMazzawi 1 year ago
@JohnMUTDMazzawi u dont know how it started, so i can but a theory that they should be a creator for life ...and the creator is allah
raafat1999 1 year ago
@raafat1999 interesting, because I don't know how it started it means that is has to be Allah? there could be billions of explanations, God or Allah aren't supported by any evidence therefore they are the least probable.
JohnMUTDMazzawi 1 year ago
@raafat1999 (Part 1) where is your evidence for Allah? You ask us for evidence to find out how it started and yet when we ask you how Allah started you cannot say a thing besides "he was always there." Hypocritical is it not? Maybe when you are older you will find out that not everything your parents tell you is correct and that if you bothered to look outside your little bubble and open yourself up you'll find out that your cult is only one of millions of different cults out there.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 8 months ago
(oart 2) and if you say "me and my parents have experienced Allah" then I can say so has everyone else from every other cult in this world - Do you mean to say that all these cults are true? In order for your cult to be proved true not only do you have to provide evidence for the existence of your God but you must also disprove the millions of other cults in this world. Although we admit that we don't have the answer In Science we are actively searching for the truth.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 8 months ago
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt and that me they should have someone put these idea on it, if u say that u dont see god, that is not an answer, and the history of atheism when in middle age the church was control ppl by claim that its the hand of god and they stole money of the ppl, so the idea of denying god appear, any way why all cult go around the idea of god and they different in the way they present him and how to worship him that mean its a need
raafat1999 8 months ago
@raafat1999 You are absolutely wrong. Atheism did not just "appear" because of the church's lies. Everyone was an atheist - no one was born thinking that one religion was right. Their parents had to brainwash them into thinking that their cult was right. And children who did not believe that Allah was God were immediately stoned to death or taken out of the family. So where was the choice? You were forced into your cult whether it be Islam, Judaism, or any other religion.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 7 months ago
(part 3) Instead of reading thousand year old cultist books filled with contradictions for the answers to how life started - we look around us and apply science with well-back evidence to find the answer - We are close to finding how life started. Atheists don't believe in God because there is no satisfactory evidence that there is a God - only when we know that there is a God will we choose to praise and worship him. We will NOT take our chances with books made by homeless wandering cave-men.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 8 months ago
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt good, when u start to speak that mean u want to find the right thing, first u has to do is go out and see nature, it should be a creator for this world because there is a system, and system should has a creator, if u has a computer first u should has an operating system to work with it, u should load it and that mean u r the programmer, aand the same for the world should has a creator- how animal learn to eat and drink and have sex, ...cont.
raafat1999 8 months ago
@raafat1999 Let us just say there is a creator for a second - why is it that Allah is the true creator and not other Gods from different Cults? How come Adi parashakti is not the Creator of the universe? I see that nature grows on its own - I see the beautiful and magnificent product of billions of years of evolution right before my eyes. I DO NOT see a God floating his wand around making sure the birds sing to attract mates, the bees pollinate the flowers, or the sky does not turn green.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 8 months ago
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt why we assume that pyramids r human made not nature made?and we speak about universe that mean many laws and logic,and allah apoke about himself and said that he is faster than light so we cant see him,and u wasnt there when universe was created so ur theory is not true and all ancient civilization spoke about gods and u dont take that into consideration, u consider u r the only science in the world even there r many ancient science, now science dont know it
raafat1999 7 months ago
@raafat1999 (Part 1) we don't assume that pyramids were nature made - we know for a fact they aren't because through science we see that pyramids are not natural - they don't occur in nature plus there are records and hyroglyphics that were kept of humans making the pyramids. And you were not there when the the universe was created too - so how do you know that the universe was created by Allah? Do you beleive that just because ancient civilizations said something is true that makes it true?
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 7 months ago
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt i dont know?! u say pyramids could not appear naturally but a universe with a big system could appear with no creator?!!!! i cant suppose that has no creator by my mind only, sometimes i see ppl do something i cant imagine, the creator who put all these system in this universe i dont think he is like a human
raafat1999 7 months ago
@raafat1999 You look at things so simply. Your excuse for everything that you cannot solve for yourself is God. God made this and God made that. Instead of just saying that there is a God at least Atheists try and find out the truth. You cult-worshipers just say that God did it. The difference between the pyramids being made by humans and the universe being made by God is that there is evidence that the Pyramids were made by humans while there is no evidence that the universe is made by God.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 7 months ago
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt first why all of athiest say the same thing no change, who told u that my parents brainwashed me? and why they will did it? and who told u that they force me to be muslim? who told u that i choose to be muslim? and why u all have the same image about islam? u claim that u didnot see god when he made the universe and there is no prove that universe came alone...
raafat1999 7 months ago
@raafat1999 Because I hear stories from the news, family, and testimonies from converted Muslims that their parents disowned them and their relatives stopped talking to them after they became Christian. I ask you to pretend you are an Atheist for one full day and see how your parents will react. You must convince them that you are an actual Atheist. This will be dangerous so ask a trusted friend to come over your house. See for yourself if they force you to believe.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 7 months ago
@raafat1999 (Part 2) I never claimed that the universe came alone - I told you once and I'll say it again Atheists DO NOT KNOW how the universe started but at least we are LOOKING for the answer and not being lazy and using God as the answer for the unexplained. You became Muslim because of your parents not because it is the right cult - if your parents were Christian you would be Christian, if your parents were Buddhists you would be Buddhist it is as simple as that.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 7 months ago
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt thank u for telling me, my parents r so bad, they told me im a human, but what is true im a monkey (according to u), they told me there is a life after death so do a good thing to ppl so u get heaven, i should follow what u think that there is no life and i can do any thing to live this life only... to kill, to steal to do anything in this life, tell me what do u think is the right the one who believe i should do good to ppl to get heaven or the one with no principle
raafat1999 7 months ago
@raafat1999 Are religious people so selfish and immoral that they would kill, steal, and rape if there was no God looking over their shoulder all the time? I am an atheist and I do not need a divine being to give me eternal life and threaten me with eternal damnation for me to abide by the law and be moral but you people do. That is how sick and perverted religious people are - the only thing holding them back from doing such hideous disgusting things is a God watching over their shoulder.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 7 months ago
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt OK...u dont ned a divine, so can u have sex with ur mother or sister? animal do that... if not why? according to what this is sick? according to religious ppl this is bad...what about u is this bad? and what is ur law?
raafat1999 7 months ago
@raafat1999 yes I do believe that having sex with your family is sick - but only because it goes against my own morals and not because some divine entity told me so. I follow my own morals and the law of the land. However I do believe you should be able to have sex with family members if you want to. You seem to be forgetting that according to your religion Adam and Eve's sons and daughters had sex with each-other plenty of times in order to populate the earth and Allah didn't stop them.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 7 months ago
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt yes they did... and u r not u dont do that because u follow divine laws, not because u dont want to, and what about killing is it wrong? animals do that that mean its ok for u to do that... and what about lying is it wrong ? and according to what? eating humans is it ok? some tribes do that what make it wrong?
raafat1999 7 months ago
@raafat1999 how do i follow it because of divine laws when I don't even believe that a God exists? Yes killing for no reason is wrong because it goes against my morals and the law of the land. Animals don't kill their own kind unless it's for a reason. Yes tribes did use cannibalism but only after their relatives died and I believe that kind of cannibalism is completely acceptable. You do not need a God for that. Search up Sociology and study it.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 7 months ago
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt i dont know what the kind of ppl u r??!!! if u give it nice name that doesnot mean it become nice thing... and that what this theory lead to. human will not be human, and the funny thing that u change the name and make it acceptable, eat human make it cannibalism and it will be ok(inculde babies) what i can say i hope u meet these tribes....when they r hungry
raafat1999 7 months ago
@raafat1999 (Part 1) Im not giving it a nice name. Sociology is the study of how humans act when they are in contact with other humans. The only reason why you think cannibalism is wrong is because of the people around you not because of some divine power. I would never eat another human being because of the society around me - I grew up in a society that believed eating other human beings whether or not they are dead is wrong.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 7 months ago
@raafat1999 (Part 2) If I grew up in that tribe who thought eating their dead relatives would grant their loved ones safe passage to the after-life than I would surely take part in that. And tribes did not eat each-other unless it was for a special occasion like a religious sacrifice to the gods or to get their relatives to the after-life. Very rarely did you see any human being eat another one just because he was hungry.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 7 months ago
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt ok i believe that believing in god will giv me a good life after life with no eating human thing issue and according to sociology..... look im thinking to visit u and live the way u live to understand why u think the way u think and invite u to live the way i live to know the way i think, and this is the cociology lesson for u, what is ur name and is u man or woman and how old r u?
raafat1999 7 months ago
@raafat1999 what do you mean by coming to visit me and live the way I live? I live in Long Island, New York and if the information on your profile is correct you live in Jordan. It would be impossible for me to come there or for you to come here. I am 18 years old and a man if you need to know.
ihavemonkeysinmybutt 7 months ago
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt look the way ur parents raise u or the community around u make u believe the way u believe and that make think the way u think and make u judge ppl according to what u believe and it same here they teach me what i think know ... i ask u to do so, so u can know what the other side think, i thought u r older than that u seem well educated, and no its not impossible but u still a boy may be in the future when u want to learn
raafat1999 7 months ago
@ihavemonkeysinmybutt and about the ancient civilizations they reach to an idea that who create the world should be worshiped and they made something represent him
raafat1999 7 months ago
@mrsnabeel nothing it was jsut a big empty space or my personal theory is alienswere here first
Topazeyesdazzleme 2 years ago
@mrsnabeel and u stop using God so much in ur opinion. You dont k now that he is even out there
Topazeyesdazzleme 2 years ago
You have clearly not read one iota on evolution. Please read something. Suggest starting point: Dawkins: Climbing Mount Improbable.
You say atheists have claimed that life has been made in a laboratory. Not true. No educated atheist state that. The fact is we are right now rapidly closing in on the origin of life. Try google abiogenesis. When we succeed, science will have closed off one more god hidey hole. And kicked the snot out of religion. Again.
kiwichriscav 2 years ago
hahahahahahaha
MWcrazyhorse 2 years ago
The law of conservation of energy states that the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant. A consequence of this law is that energy cannot be created or destroyed. The only thing that can happen with energy in an isolated system is that it can change form, for instance kinetic energy can become thermal energy.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
evolution takes matter. Matter can not just be here. If we can destroy our earth and its matter by not protecting it, then it is impossible for it to be powerfull enough to just be here. The Holy Spirit ( and even if you are not Christian) some all powerfull force that is always here, that penetrates us has to create the matter.
cainswrath727 2 years ago
"created the matter"
Can you prove this?
As far as we know matter and energy can neither be created or destroyed, they can just change from, so it points towards the conclusion, that matter and energy are eternal.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
there is not enough evidence towards your oppinion. yes we can destroy energy we have been doing it slowly for a long time now. watch the video. I respect your views please respect mine. I want to put you on my show sometime for a debate over the phone.
cainswrath727 2 years ago
How can we destroy energy?
Name ONE method tgo destroy energy!
Flipsen89 2 years ago
What kind of show do you have?
What are you topics in general?
Is it just evolution and biology or religion, philosophy and so on?
A debate would indeed be interesting.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
@cainswrath727 you dont know that
Topazeyesdazzleme 2 years ago
mrsnabeel - so from that reply I gather that you agree with me that mohammed was a pedophile and a mass murderer?
Ok good, we agree on something
tallskin 2 years ago
mrsnabeel, -- what !! you talk of facts then when I tell you the FACT that mohammed was a pedophile (he was fucking a 9 year old girl) and he was a mass murderer (he killed thousands of people in acts of banditry, cutting off their hands so they bled to death) you don't want to know!
Amazing! do you deny that mohammed killed thousands and that he was fucking a 9 year old girl?
tallskin 2 years ago
oh PER_LEASE - this is sad.
How can some ancient arabic work like tariq possibly be said to be proof that the koran contains details of black holes!
Look this discussion is utterly futile. You are obviously too stupid to face facts that the koran is simply the ramblings of pedophile mass murderer.
I am ending it, so don't bother replying to me anymore
Go to school and learn something, don't just quote religion at me, cos it just makes me laugh
tallskin 2 years ago
black hole
a region of space having a gravitational field so intense that no matter or radiation can escape.
Black holes are probably formed when a massive star exhausts its nuclear fuel and collapses under its own gravity. If the star is massive enough, no known force can counteract the increasing gravity, and it will collapse to a point of infinite density. Before this stage is reached, within a certain radius (the event horizon), light itself becomes trapped and the object becomes invisible.
tallskin 2 years ago
A pulsar is not a black hole
Look, you badly educated muslim, go see the new Star Trek film and maybe you can learn what a black hole is
tallskin 2 years ago
LOL, you obviously don't know what a black hole is!
What are you describing is, possibly, a Quasar
tallskin 2 years ago
I find this SO funny!
Western Science discovers phenomenon like black holes existing in the universe. Then, because you muslims are ashamed of how backward you are, you go through your holy books to find words that mean anything and then say: "Look, look, the koran here gives a description of black holes"!
Pathetic
tallskin 2 years ago
mrsnabeel - are you seriously offering that as defintion of black holes? That doesn't mean anything, or could mean anything you want it to mean.
I want a proper definition such as western science provides!
Ok, well, let me make it easy for you.
Do YOU know what a black hole is?
tallskin 2 years ago
@tallskin just becuse western science provides it doesnt mean it is real stop being rude
Topazeyesdazzleme 2 years ago
"Do u really believe that we the muslim world r following Islam?"
I couldn't give a fuck! But probably not, because you're all too busy fucking goats (or little boys in the maddrasses)
But I am still waiting for you to tell me what the koran says about black holes
Come on, give the information koran gives about black holes
tallskin 2 years ago
Mrsnabeel - did you go to school???
I am waiting for you to give me what the koran says about black holes.
Come on. Or cannot you find it now?
tallskin 2 years ago
SillyNabeel -
" how come a person in those days could know about such biiiig secrets.?" - ANSWER, they didn't.
What is astounding, truly astounding is that western science has failed so utterly to realise the koran contains all science!
GOSH, so we in the west need not bother to do anymore work or research! All we have to do is open the koran and there will be any facts we need.
And then we can become total failures like the muslim world.
Strange how ur sky pixie makes you such failures
tallskin 2 years ago
Misseenabeeeel -
"people like u, obsessed with "websites" - like you, you mean?
"Have u everrr heard about black holes in any other religious book?" - Indeed not. Gosh, why don;t you tell me what the koran says about black holes?
I will await your response, and whilst I wait, I will practice being muslim and be banging my empty head on the ground and dream of goats.
tallskin 2 years ago
MRSnabeel- Yes, you are so correct in your perfect understanding of psychology!!
Why didn't I realise that abusing people whose questions you cannot answer would make them become muslims! ??
Silly me. Now I have had half my brain removed and I am now muslim.
I will question nothing anymore nor think for myself, but will simply bang my silly empty onto the ground 5 times a day and lust after my neighbours' goats.
Mmmmm, goats!
tallskin 2 years ago
I have a copy of the koran here and yes, you are so right and I was so wrong!!
I have found the koran gives me details on how to build: MOBILE PHONES, THE AIRPLANE, THE CAR, THE TELEVISION, THE NUCLEAR BOMB, THE INTERNET, CDs, DVDs, COMPUTERS.
How could I have missed that! WOW, I am so foolish.
And the koran reveals history to me, such as when the second world war would happen, when the moon landings would take place.
GOSH, it's a miracle.
tallskin 2 years ago
Mrsnabeeeel - give me just ONE islamic invention.
Just one!
Come on.
I bet you cannot, because there aren't any.
tallskin 2 years ago
If you are genuinely interested in learning how life evolved on earth, how it started, then I suggest do a simple internet search on google - type in "Origins of life on earth"
I am not prepared to get involved in a "debate" with you about some sky pixie creating the universe blah blah, because that simply gives sky pixie nonsense credibility.
Look, research and learn, and leave the immature and stupid religious mumbo-jumbo behind you.
tallskin 2 years ago
Tell me why islam censors all the media & everything else..
What is it so terrified of ..
Censorship is for liars who want to hide behind lies .. otherwise the truth would be nothing to be frightened of..
mylampstand 2 years ago
u keep islam cenors all the media, from where u get this, where in islam say that?
and let us remember the labrary of bagdad before 1000years ago where ur nations were in the dark, let us dont forget Instruments of forgiveness of urs
raafat1999 2 years ago
My comment below u removed so i have put it back on..
See how islam can't bear the truth..
Islam produces no technology ..
Show us your technology ..
Name someof islams current inventions..
Oh u can't ..there aren't any ..
lol
mylampstand 2 years ago
i dont remove any comments, and all ur science u speak about came from islam nation in spain, 500years ago, and all our scientists now have two choice, work with westren country or die, for u to know
so dont speak about our scientists, and dont u see news? all islamic countries r under attack of ur countries
raafat1999 2 years ago
Muslim countries censor books & the media ,due 2the fact muslim societies cannot tolerate criticism because of the koran
Books produced in the west are not censored & have been produced not because of the koran but inspite of it.
mylampstand 2 years ago
i told u that first think america did, was to kill all scientist in iraq, after war, so we sure will not have any scientist, and i know many cases
raafat1999 2 years ago
You know there are muslim scientists ..
Name some from the past 150 years ..
What did they invent ..
& where did they live when they invented them ..
I can name you hundreds of non muslim western scientists from the past 150 years ..
How many muslim scientists can you name & their inventions ..
I wait with anticipation ...
mylampstand 2 years ago
It will never be is a reference book ..there is nothing in it anyone in the west could use
The west produces all most all the technology, medicines, scientists
What technology comes from islam ..zero
The koran is a straight jacket on invention & creativity.
mylampstand 2 years ago
Your Question: "who give the first organism the life and can u prove it in labs?"
No-one "gave life" to the first organism, because there was no-one around at that time!!
And let's not bring some imaginary sky-pixie into the equation, please!
tallskin 2 years ago
Jeeeeeeez, this vid is worse than dumb. And for a muslim that is difficult to do, cos there are so many extremely dumb muslim videos on YouTube.
This little jerk has just written as his badly educated (& virtually illiterate) muslim brain dictates, without engaging the thinking part of his mind.
Tap, tap, tappity tap go his clumsy little paws upon the keyboard.
tallskin 2 years ago
u just insult me and give bad puplicty
but u dont answer the question
answer then say im dump
if u dont answer(and u will not) this words is return to u
u the good educated...
raafat1999 2 years ago
Yeh ..
you have one book ..we have thousands..
lol
mylampstand 2 years ago
but our book is a referance for millions book
raafat1999 2 years ago
Muslim countries censor books & the media ,due 2the fact muslim societies cannot tolerate criticism because of the koran
Books produced in the west are not censored & have been produced not because of the koran but inspite of it.
It will never be is a reference book ..there is nothing in it anyone in the west could use
The west produces all most all the technology, medicines, scientists
What technology comes from islam ..zero
The koran is a straight jacket on invention & creativity.
mylampstand 2 years ago
in islam we have science more than u. actually ur country stole our science and scientist, for u to know america first thing did in iraq was to killl more than 200 scientist, and all the war in islam do u why?
raafat1999 2 years ago
Raafat 1999 -- the islamic has virtually no science.
the tiny country of Izrael has more scientists than the entire arab world put together!
There is no thirst for knowledge in the muslim world, only for silly and worthless religious nit-picking debate
Spain translates more books into spanish each year than the entire muslim world has translated over THE PAST THOUSAND YEARS (Source, the United Nations)
Now, what does that lack of intellectual curiosity lead to?
Answer: the muslim world!!
tallskin 2 years ago
plz answer my question: where is all wars america did last 20years?
can i help u with some information
afghanistan(muslim) iraq(muslim) sudan(wow muslim) sumali(muslim) syria(muslim) palestain(muslim)
so do u think we will have time to read????
raafat1999 2 years ago
When & what was stolen from islam..
Islam has done a fine job murdering their own scientists..so good infact ..they are an extinct species in islam..
Which muslim scientist will ever get to the moon ..or produce anything for the benefit of mankind ..islam suffocates any innovative ideas ..why because those ideas conflict with islam's ideology & will prove it is of no use to anyone..
mylampstand 2 years ago
there is many ,Embryology as example
and there is a site
55a. net
see it
raafat1999 2 years ago
Oh, ratfat9999 - and what question is that?
tallskin 2 years ago
do u see the clip? so u judge me without read? how scientific u r? and this show that u r well educated
raafat1999 2 years ago
LOL, just answer my fucking question you dumb muslim baboon!
tallskin 2 years ago
what is ur question? im ready give me what u want
but then u will answer main
raafat1999 2 years ago
"i just give me theory, and i can prove it "
HAHAHAHAYHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
tyndaleffect 2 years ago
good i make u laugh
raafat1999 2 years ago
Obviously you got no idea what evolution is. So just for your own good, don't even try to understand it, it would just make your head hurt from too much information.
Renius125 2 years ago
i told u i know more than u about evolution and Predicted what athism will lead to, i just give me theory, and i can prove it
raafat1999 2 years ago
No you don't, you proved it in this video of yours that you don't have the slightest idea about it. You need to do a lot more research, but something tells me the info wouldn't stick into your head no matter what.
Renius125 2 years ago
i dont have to make any research about athiesm, i have islam man, and it so amazing
raafat1999 2 years ago
Thanks, that's all I needed to know about you.
Renius125 2 years ago
ok bye, u not even accept Criticism, and this what u show me now
raafat1999 2 years ago
yeah, you should learn to accept criticism...
pikechris1 2 years ago 2
"i have islam man, and it so amazing "
amazing bs, right?
hdr.undp(.)org/en/statistics
consang(.)net/index(.)php/Global_prevalence
watch?v=BbLDKLQYrg8
etc...
pikechris1 2 years ago 2
"raafat1999 (10 hours ago)
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do they pay u to be an athiest? if i pay u more than them, will u become a muslim"
wonder if you and your sponsors can afford that... ;-);-)
pikechris1 2 years ago
i have no sponsor, but u believe in idea its nothing but imaginary story, its should be someone support u or pay to u
raafat1999 2 years ago
"i have no sponsor"
dat bad...
"but u believe in idea its nothing but imaginary story"
actually, i dont believe. im "a"-theist. without theism. so its you, the theists who believe...
"its should be someone support u or pay to u"
dat was of course only a rhetorical trick. in the sense of when you deliver evidence i will indeed become a believer. yet where is the evidence? none... on the contrary there is plenty of counter evidence...
pikechris1 2 years ago
with all evidence i provid to u and u dont want to believe, the whole idea of evolution is nothing, i ask u what give the life to first living organism and u dont give me an answer, i prove to u with many information that ur ideas is follow of shit but u dont want to believe
raafat1999 2 years ago
"with all evidence i provid to u and u dont want to believe,"
what was that? demagoguery and fallacies? well, its not sound to believe that. thats for sure.
"the whole idea of evolution is nothing,"
the whole idea of evilution is a scientific theory and a scientific fact. there are dozens of applied sciences too. there is no escape from evilutionl.
"i ask u what give the life to first living organism"
i gave you info about latest research. yet that is rather irrelevant when talking evilution.
pikechris1 2 years ago
"i prove to u with many information that ur ideas is follow of shit but u dont want to believe"
what a load of crap... go ahead and disprove the scientific sources i and others have repeatedly provided....
pikechris1 2 years ago
like what?
raafat1999 2 years ago
Simple answer people, evolution is the answer to how, but not why...
critter505 2 years ago
"Simple answer people, evolution is the answer to how, but not why... " I agree. but to suggest that there is a "why?" is to presuppose a reasoning mind to have a reason why!
Tobytrim 2 years ago 2
ok .....i will answe why
raafat1999 2 years ago
ok iwill ask why
You miss the point,,,,read my comment again!! ...And the philosophical point I was replying to.....To ask "why " the universe came into being is to preassume a purposeful reason, which pre assumes an intelligent designer!
A very circular argument indeed!
Tobytrim 2 years ago
ok iwill ask why
raafat1999 2 years ago
But further evidence opens up that the Quran is indeed talking about a flat earth. Quran 18:47 says, "On that day we shall remove the mountains, and thou wilt see the earth as a level stretch..." (see also 20:104-107). In other words 18:47 & 20:107 are saying that once the mountains are removed, we will see to the end of the world, which is flat.
Flipsen89 2 years ago 3
"ever see a ship appear at the horizon?....no it will be so far and i can see it, "
The first thing you will see of a ship, when it comes closer is the mast and then it seems to come out of the ocean.
This is no proof, but an important observation, that would support the calim of a round earth.
Flipsen89 2 years ago 2
The Quran has other errors of nature, where 51:49, says of life in creation, "And of everything we have created pairs that ye may reflect" (see also 43:12; 50:7). So for all animals they are created in pairs. This is an obvious denial of the fact that numerous species produce asexually, not in pairs.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
This is an obvious denial of the fact that numerous species produce asexually, not in pairs....like what
raafat1999 2 years ago
the cape bee Apis mellifera capensis (which can reproduce asexually through a process called thelytoky). A few species of amphibians and reptiles have the same ability
Flipsen89 2 years ago
but is it in pairs?
raafat1999 2 years ago
"but is it in pairs? "
No.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
but did u see earth flat of sphere? according to ur observation?
no. then what is it in pairs or not, it can reproduce alone but is it in pairs or not?
raafat1999 2 years ago
"then what is it in pairs or not, it can reproduce alone but is it in pairs or not? "
No it is not in pairs.
"but did u see earth flat of sphere? according to ur observation?"
Did you ever see a ship appear at the horizon?
It might seem flat, but it is not.
A scientific claim, would make this perfectly clear, without the possibility of misinterpretation.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
ever see a ship appear at the horizon?....no it will be so far and i can see it, and its not a good example to prove the sphere for earth.... u actually see it flat
and about pairs, u say it every bee has a two pair of sexually so its pairs, if it make sex with each other
raafat1999 2 years ago
"u say it every bee has a two pair of sexually so its pairs, if it make sex with each other "
No the example I provided is one where there is asexual reproduction.
That means there is no male or female.
There is no sex involved.
Bacteria for example also reproduce without sex.
There are no male or female bacteria.
Flipsen89 2 years ago 2
wow...
pikechris1 2 years ago
"flat of sphere"?
whats is that?
"according to ur observation?"
observation says the earth is round. one only needs to observe properly. oh, since you relate to "ur observation". if the kuran refers to "ur observation" then its not from "allah" but rather from humans, because all it delivers is simple human observation. divine intervention is not needed to explain simple human observation...
pikechris1 2 years ago 2
no...
pikechris1 2 years ago
no.... this is the answer when u have no answer
raafat1999 2 years ago
was a response to your "flat clam". somehow YT failed there but thats irrelevant and you know that, raafat...
pikechris1 2 years ago
i know what?
raafat1999 2 years ago
AGAIN! OPEN URE MIND! use a PLASIBLE premesis to explain the word u live in !!!! u make me laugh !!!! :)):)):))
eskhaton101 2 years ago
good to make u laugh, brain washed
raafat1999 2 years ago
me?brain washed? buy ure self a mirror u'l se the 'superman' of the brain washed ;);) :)))
eskhaton101 2 years ago 4
utter fucking bullshit. You can believe in evolution and be a christian.
bigfluff73 2 years ago
no u cant believe in evolution and be a christian, u can believe on a pary of evolution(like what i did) but not all, not to prove that allah is not exist
raafat1999 2 years ago
Evolution does nothing to prove or disprove any religion.
Evolution is compatible with both christianity and islam.
Even the pope accepts evolution.
and MANY muslims do the same.
Evolution is free from religion.
It does not make any statement on religious beliefs.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
i like u man, but u go in the wrong direction, evolution is not surelly correct, and i see some observations only that is true
raafat1999 2 years ago
"evolution is not surelly correct"
What exactly?
Flipsen89 2 years ago
evolution = observation
natural selection = a set of theories explaining observation
are you claiming that up to 200 years of ever improving observations, predictions and applications (applied sciences) are wrong?
on what bases are you claiming that? have you published your findings in scientific PRJs? how did you disprove, or eventually re-explain what is "operative"? im very curious...
pikechris1 2 years ago
this question is the answer...
what happen to the food that fly directlly after it eat it? is it stay as is it or change
raafat1999 2 years ago
Just a suggestion.
Wikipedia offers many articles on Abiogenesis, Evolution, the Big Bang Theory, Atheism and other interresting stuff.
It may not always be that precise, but they are working on it everyday.
You can get so much information, that is easy to understand, so please use this before making useless attempts to disprove theories you have no idea about.
Flipsen89 2 years ago 2
i want to tell u a story, my home, its amazing, when stones start to collect to each other maybe by wind, and then start to organized in walls and columns and then the roof, alone really, and then the furniture and windows, i say alone then it become a home then we move to it
just like that, and i can give u pics, when i came to it and i did not see anyman around it, do u want to see the pics how my home without creator...(how a nonorganic material come to eachother to become a cell)
raafat1999 2 years ago
ndagain, you showed your lack of knowledge.
I think I have given you massive amounts of evidence, supporting the theory of evolution.
"(how a nonorganic material come to eachother to become a cell) "
Stupidity and ignorance.
Sorry sir, you fail.
You also fail in knowing your religion.
You fail in presenting any proof of your magical being up in the sky.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
i can prove by pics (Fossils) that my home came alone, there is no creator to my home.... and about evidance, they spend alot of it to make u dont follow religion and allah discripe it in quran... so i invite u to follow islam and open ur mind, just try it, its an easy way,
take a bath then stand and say(allah if u exist, show me the way to u and make me follow it) just try,
raafat1999 2 years ago
"its an easy way,"
Too easy!
You just do not understand evolution. And because of that, you just make up a story so you can avoid to think for yourself!
Open your mind!
Flipsen89 2 years ago
did i say anything wrong about evolution, isnt evolution the way i descripe, nonorganic material came to be cell????
without any creator
raafat1999 2 years ago
"did i say anything wrong about evolution, isnt evolution the way i descripe, nonorganic material came to be cell????
without any creator "
No, what you tried to describe is Abiogenesis.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
if u call it different, it will make it different
the same idea, nonorganic material became cell in the end , whatever u call it
and its the main idea, and all what we try to debate on and this is the wrong base for ur theory
raafat1999 2 years ago
The thing is, that evolution does not say a word about Abiogenesis (life coming from non-life).
Evolution is about the diversity of life, not the origin of the first life on this planet!
Flipsen89 2 years ago
so what the origin of the first life on this planet?
raafat1999 2 years ago
"so what the origin of the first life on this planet? "
o.k., you have a thing called computer.
This computer has a webbrowser.
on top of the window there is a place where you can type in an internet adress.
Type in W I K I P E D I A . C O M
Then search for: A B I O G E N E S I S
Flipsen89 2 years ago
as i know W I K I P E D I A . C O M
is something u type anything u want on it
and as i say in the story of my home everything come alone, just like that, random creation
so if there is a tools and in windy day may be this will lead to make a car at the end
raafat1999 2 years ago
"is something u type anything u want on it"
No, it is peer reviewed every day!
Well, it is funny, because Abiogenesis is not described as something where all the parts just fall together and bam LIFE.
No there are certain processes, such as the formation of amino acids and the replication of those.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
No there are certain processes, such as the formation of amino acids and the replication of those.
do u speak sense, what creat blue green bacteria? by this process that mean, alone, we reach to the same idea
raafat1999 2 years ago
u put idea in ur mind and close on it and dont want to Argue it, so stay as u r close mind on it, so believe that everything came alone
raafat1999 2 years ago
this is the idea the origion of life, what come after is nothing, so i invite u to become a muslim and find the answer
raafat1999 2 years ago
"i invite u to become a muslim and find the answer "
I guess your answer is that Allah created the first living thing?
Flipsen89 2 years ago
yes he did? and im sure
raafat1999 2 years ago
"yes he did? and im sure "
Do you have any empirical studies or other evidence that tis actually happened?
Did you make any observations?
Did Allah create new life while you were watching?
Flipsen89 2 years ago
he dont have to, he allready did? this amazing universe, and quran .....
u dont know what quran is? if u read quran u will be sure that quran came from god not human
raafat1999 2 years ago
"u dont know what quran is?"
I do know the quran.
I also know the sharia. It is the body of the islamic law and the laws in the sharia are against democracy, against the freedom of religion (and freedom from religion) and those laws supress women.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
so u say that about islam and i see thats wrong, and i say what i say about athiest and u say thats wrong, so each other see that we r wrong, islam give women right more than men, man should prove a good life for women but woman not...this is islam
raafat1999 2 years ago
"islam give women right more than men, man should prove a good life for women but woman not...this is islam "
We already had this discussion and I think, that my points are stronger than yours, but let us keep this aside.
What you are saying about atheists is absolutely made up and contradicts everything any atheist would say.
What I say is based on your scripture.
Maybe you have a different interpretation, but at least I have a reasonable basis for my criticism.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
I do not like it, that every religion refuses to hear any criticism.
If claims against your religion are totally made up, then you have the right to absolutely reject them, BUT my claims on islam are not made up.
They are based on your rules and dogmas.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
so... since you have this secret knowledge, how come you havent been that successful in using it in the natural world? are you trying to sell us here an empty potato sack ? :))
pikechris1 2 years ago
this is the point, they do all what they can to prove islam is wrong, not to prove if islam is correct or not, all media show islam as what u discripe it, just try to look for what islam and quran say, with scientific view, consider quran as a unknown book and u just read
raafat1999 2 years ago
live with it, cousin. thats what the "western", "popperian", falsification approach is about. proving "things" wrong.
"f islam is correct or not, all media show islam as what u discripe it"
with all respect, this above claim is BS.
"just try to look for what islam and quran say, with scientific view, consider quran as a unknown book and u just read"
and here it goes again! you claim the science, yet when examined in the light of science, you get proved wrong. then you start whining. pathetic.
pikechris1 2 years ago
give me example
raafat1999 2 years ago
I am not criticising you, I am criticising your religion.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
ok, but u speak about my scripture from one side not all side, so give me ur opinion
raafat1999 2 years ago
Yes, all I say about your scripture is my opinion.
But my opinion has a justification and it is based on your scriptures.
Your view on atheism is simple hate and misunderstanding.
I tolerate your beliefs, but I want you to think about them critically.
Flipsen89 2 years ago
i say the same thing for u
Your view on islam is simple hate and misunderstanding.
I tolerate your beliefs, but I want you to think about them critically.
raafat1999 2 years ago
Why do you refuse to delete the video "being an atheist"?
Flipsen89 2 years ago
when u delete all the clips that insulting islam
raafat1999 2 years ago
I have not made ONE clip, that insults islam.
Flipsen89 2 years ago