Bach | Messe en si - Marc Minkowski & les Musiciens du Louvre-Grenoble

[badbird100]

This entire recording is transcendent. Minkowski has broken through and found the true work.

[arkantoxic]

Listen to the sanctus of this version. Transcending and Magnificent

[violinhunter2]

Los musicos del Louvre y Minkowski son magnificos!!!

[parapente2011]

Merci pour la mise en ligne de ces extraits commentés , un tout grand moment de musique divine et si pure qui nous entraîne tout là-haut vers le divin .  Que d'émotions !!! Je ne puis que m'incliner avec respect devant l'oeuvre de Bach . Roland

[jmiducdm]

Il est difficile de mal interpréter une telle partition tant cette musique est d'essence divine. Nos hommes d'état devraient en écouter + souvent, il s'en trouveraient certainement plus apaisés...et plus humbles !

[SPACETIMEBEAUTY]

Bravo Bravo!!

I want to run out and buy the cd..

[GerardDrozd]

Amazing music and rendition.

[frede77ric]

Marc Minkowski est véritablement un génie....il vit la musique qu' il interprète et nous la retransmet en plein coeur avec une communication si particulière avec ses musiciens...époustouflant...i love you

[KosteckiAdam]

Bravissimo. touching!

[znbr1]

Can't describe in words! Minkovski is a genius!

[jsnauwaert]

The greatest music in the universe.

[lovehaendel1]

wonderful. thank you.

[nelsonpianista]

splendid work!!!

[EugenioAmorim]

Unique!!!!

[izifit1]

Magnifique

[MegaCawotte]

I absolutely need this CD.

[anisometropie]

une oeuvre eternelle

[boisfarine1970]

quelle voix Nathalie Stutzmann !!!!

[saturne46]

La vôtre n'est pas mal non plus

[M11Aaa]

Yes ,me too , I want the name of the CD , please !!

[adibhaddad]

what is the name of the CD? Thanks

[elbwiesen]

amazon + Marc Minkowski + h-moll

there you can listen to more tracks and order the record.

I did it 4 min ago ... now i have to wait for 3 days and then i will enjoy!

[doctorfate77]

I'll buy it, but I'm not expecting much. Emanuelle Haim's Magnificat has broken my faith in the French as great Bach interpreters. Jos van Veldhoven is STILL the reigning champion of Bach interpretation and execution.

[sk8nruff]

recreating the vocal forces? wtf...bach had boy sopranos and altos, not women. it's a great recording but the BS about recreating the forces is just lame. were they just talking about number of bodies or the right types of numbers of bodies? :P

[norcalrobbie2]

The body in Bach's day would go through puberty at a much later age than today. You could have a boy of 14, 15, or even 16 singing in the soprano register. It was probably due to medical and nutritional standards. Many believe it would sound more developed, somewhere between a boy and an adult woman. Also, the later age would give the boys a longer time to train in their technique, an opportunity most of today's boy choristers can't have. So no, it's not "BS."

[sk8nruff]

Marc knows better, and mostly for lack of time to find a decent sounding group of boy sopranos and altos, he went with the adult singers. Bach used falsetists, adult males, singing alto lines but he never had female singers in his services singing sacred music. The sad thing about most of the recordings Marc does is that the band is fantastic and the singers are usually quite bad, as far as singing in early style goes. Are there any good sources you recommend regarding 18th c. puberty?

[norcalrobbie2]

Yes- one of them was Philippe Herreweghe who lectured on the problem of using boys, using adult women instead for the same reason. If you've heard the voice of an older boy soprano on the verge of 'breaking,' (about 12-13 these days) the difference would be obvious. And Bach didn't only use falsettists, he used natural (meaning not castrato) male altos and sopranos who did not sing in falsetto voice, but with a full chest register.

[olialto7]

What?! Natural male altos and sopranos not using falsetto? I'm afraid voices like this do not exist, and I don't think ever did, certainly not in great enough numbers to be used regularly by any composer. There are voices which never 'broke' because of hormonal complications, perhaps you are thinking of these? Again, where is the evidence to prove that these were any more common in Bach's day than they are nowadays? Michael Maniaci is one such example.

[norcalrobbie2]

No, I'm not thinking of those "natural castrati." Maniaci is a medical exception. I'm thinking of natural male altos and sopranos using chest voices because their voices broke later in life - into the mid-teens, as many did in the Baroque period. The evidence is in the rosters of the St. Thomas School and other boy choirs whose histories extend back into the Baroque period and before. You have instances of boys' voices breaking as late as 16-17 years old.

[olialto7]

Ah, that certainly makes more sense. And Bach would have had these boys in abundance. Using the word 'male' threw me, I obviously forgot teenage boys were male!

[norcalrobbie2]

Another thing- the book 'Essential Bach Choir' by Andrew Parrott includes a roster of St. Thomas School where Bach served as cantor until his death. From the list it's clear that were boys singing at higher ranges as late as 16 years old (one of them is named: G. C. Hoffman, a 16 year old alto).

[sk8nruff]

I meant first-hand sources, treatises? I know Parrot's book. Phil hates using kids because he's a control freak with a seriously short fuse and anyone who's done recordings with boy altos and sopranos is well aware of the time constraints involved...believe me. lolz! Leonhardt had the same problem when he recorded all the cantatas. On the plus side there's a great music school in Hamburg, the Johanneum, which trains boy singers and you can call them up if you need altos and sopranos.

[asisecanta]

I already have the CD. Don't miss this one. As good as the concert. It will be a first choice as soon as it appears in the market

[tatalito]

amazing! I have the Eliot Gardiner Version,but I love this one!

Bravo! great posting!

fabian

[asisecanta]

@tatalito Saw Gardiner tonight playing this mass, two years after having heard Minkowski's version. Even if Gardiner's version was superb, in my humble opinion, Minkowski's was much better, Gardiner is 8/10 and Minko 9.5/10

[asisecanta]

I had the big pleasure of having been present at one rehershal and at the Concert at Santiago. Unforgettable!!!

What Stutzman did with Agnus Dei was INCREDIBLE.

[musicca75]

Breathtaking!

Asisecanta: Happy you (I mean the concert and rehearsal)!

Marc Minkowski rulez :)

[bmgharst]

@asisecanta ah, i am envious...

[Viahandel06]

Holy f&*@in God!!

Marc Minkowski recording Bach?! Finally!! I cannot wait until it comes out! XD

[RomanasK]

thanks for uploading this wonderful clip!

Anyone knows where can I buy this CD?

I'm in love with this music and it's such a great performance!