Osama Bin Laden Proof of Death? - my knee jerk reaction

[futurecardinal17]

Al Qaeda confirmed his death... they have no reason to lie about it.

[mostradicalmanever]

@futurecardinal17 Here is a clip from the article you may be referring to.

"The message signed by "the general leadership" of al Qaeda could not be independently confirmed, though it was posted on websites where the group usually puts out its messages."

anyone could have posted that message.

[bubbles64194]

@futurecardinal17 Did they tell you personally did they?

[goodnoah]

@futurecardinal17 "Al Qaeda" you dont know shit.

[PenelopeA57]

Something fishy is going on that's for sure. Things just don't add up. Also, how do a bunch of choppers go unnoticed by the authorities? It's not like this was done in a matter of minutes....and there was gunfire. Odd!

[ConsumingFire39]

It really does not matter if the guy is dead or captive right now, he will not be heard of ever again.

Think through the scenario of him not being dead/captured right now. He would easily just put out a video of him being alive and turn us against our own government...

[mostradicalmanever]

@ConsumingFire39 right. There are news reports of him dying in 2001. it is pretty certain that he isn't going to pop up!

thanks. 

[bigm1a1]

@ConsumingFire39 so im not the only one who thinks like that

[mostradicalmanever]

I hope you are right.

Why did the us military let film crews film saddam hussein's sons?

Do you realize that Benito Mussolinis body was displayed in the public square?

The world needs to know that osama is no longer a threat.

[carbonunit57]

I believe our government. He is dead. He was buried at sea so quickly because the government is trying to avoid a Muslim reaction which could result in Americans being killed. There are photos of OBL dead and those photos will eventually be released.

[footiebeanz]

@carbonunit57 Oh dear you believe the government; that would make you an idiot, I daresay.

Your government lied to you about WMDs and Iraq - why not this ? PS no-one in the Muslim world cares much from what I can see, as everyone knew he was dead. He was never a big figure in reality - just a bogey man for dozy Yanks. They did release photos, but they were outed as fake in about 5 minutes so they withdew them LOL PS a DNA test for an ID takes days and without the source body is worthless.

[carbonunit57]

@footiebeanz I don’t have a reason to not believe the official story of Bin Laden’s death. As for lying about WMDs, if Bush knew they didn't have WMDs, then he would be a liar. If he believed that they had them, then he is just incompetent. The definition of a lie is, “a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth”. As for Bin Laden he is hero in Pakistan. There were Bin Laden dolls and toys and kids were named after him.

[carbonunit57]

@footiebeanz By the way, there is facial recognition technology that is something like 99% acurate and that was what was used initially to determine if it was Bin Laden that was killed. His dealth care confirmed later with DNA. Al Qaeda has since acknowledged that he is dead. I am not skeptical that he is dead, however, I also do not believe that his death reduce terriorist attacks.

[qarishahg]

Perfect response: greetings from UK

[tua25544]

4 cont) because they are worried of inflamming the arab world or making him a martyar. 5) The dumped him in the ocean because they didnt want a shrine or funeral to act as a rallying point for terrorist (This is why stalin disposed of and hid hitlers carcass) and no country was willing to accept and bury the body and post a funeral. 6) why do you think muslim clerics would have any better idea about it than anyone else.

[tua25544]

1) If the government did fake it, dont you think they would of thought to create a fake picture or 2? Do you really think they would have a hard time creating one? 2) The government cant keep ANYTHING secret. Everything gets leaked. 3) I cant think of a soild reason why they would fake it (expesially now instead of earlier or later) 4) They are hesitant to post pictures of Osama with half his dome blown off (apparently some in the media have been leaked it and are worried about showing it)

[ironicvermont1]

Obviously you have No clue or education on DNA, not sure where you get your information but it has been all through the news and on the internet that Al Quieda and Hamas have confirmed he is dead so now the conspiracy is saying Hamas and Al Quieda is involved in this conspiracy. What makes me laugh the most is how you made a point that you are a christian and you believe in a magic man in the sky but cant believe this, what exactly is the conspiracy here?

[mostradicalmanever]

@ironicvermont1 I am glad to have a DNA expert reply here. thanks.. could you explain how this would remove all doubt?

which al queda  or hamas cleric has responded? please provide a link.

[tnoble711]

@ironicvermont1 Where is the picture? Why won't they show footage from the camera the navy seals had on their helmets? What makes you trust our Government so much that DNA of the most wanted man is good enough?

[arbeitsscheuer]

Well said Conrad, my immediate reaction was exactly the same...

Hey, maybe they DID get him, but are they seriously expecting us to believe that nobody bothered to snap a photo or two? Of the Most Wanted Man On Earth?! Bizarre stuff.

You are a credit to your faith and your nation for displaying such critical faculties which seem to be lacking not only amongst your countrymen but among many of mine too. Good luck

[mostradicalmanever]

@arbeitsscheuer "are they seriously expecting us to believe that nobody bothered to snap a photo or two? Of the Most Wanted Man On Earth?! " pretty much sums it up!

Thanks!

[footiebeanz]

The man has been dead since Dec 2001 - see youtube Frost interview with Benazir Bhutto 2007 - she discussed OBL.

He had renal failure and had been on dialysis in Pakistan - you can`t do dialysis in a cave ! The Taliban at that stage were keen to gain acceptance as a legitimate government. They got rid of all the foreign fighters etc and offered to hand OBL over - the Bush Gov didn`t want him so they killed him off as an obstacle to Governing. Didn`t work of course, US was committed to war.

[mostradicalmanever]

@footiebeanz so what on earth is going on then? Why put on this show?

[alfonso1025]

I understand your concern, but think of it from a different perspective.....if this all a hoax and Bin Laden is still alive, wouldn't he produce a video and mock the US for that? That's what I would do if I was him and still alive. The US would put themselves in a bad situation for faking something like this....Osama would have the last laugh and that is something that our government is not stupid enough to do. I hope you have a different view on this subject.

[mostradicalmanever]

@alfonso1025 consider the angle if osama has been dead for years. I am waiting for real muslim remarks from taliban and al queda big wigs.. Maybe even the bin laden family to make a statement.

There are a lot of people that say osama has been dead for a very long time.

[corona419]

I am right there with you, man. Thank you for saving my faith in my fellow american. I thought everyone has gone to Crazy Town.

How could you possibly question official government statements? Wiki-Leaks proves the government always tells the truth.

My concern now is for Our economic future. Obama will ride this public fervor into a 2nd term, status quo will continue, dollar will continue to collapse. I should know, I am a professional currency trader.

[mostradicalmanever]

@corona419 thanks. transparency in government. I think i heard that somewhere.

God bless!

ps.. gold and silver is doing pretty good since the bail out huh? LOLZ