I'm not a music theorist, just an average Joe who likes Schubert, so forgive my clumsy interpretation. I've been listening to this song for years, and I've always felt the most beautiful part of this piece can be found from 3:40 onwards. It reminds me of the gentle cuddling after sex, when lust has been expelled from the body, and what remains is the intensity of true, tender, soft love. The "swirling" of the cello notes at 3:44, especially, brings tears to my eyes every time. This is true art.
That's rather...specific. I don't know if I'd describe it in those terms, but I suppose they get at something about the piece. After the tumultuous F minor middle section (into which we had been wrenched from the first section's tranquil E major), we return to E major with a varied reprise of the first section. One cannot help but hear this music in light of what has just transpired--perhaps as a refuge from whatever threat the middle section is supposed to represent.
Thank you, darthdidious, for posting this beautiful recording of this beautiful piece of work. I have read that Schubert wrote this two months before he died, and that it wasn't performed publicly until 28 years after he died. So he never heard it - at least outside of his head - while he lived. Yet tens of thousands are listening to this more than a century and a half later. Who says we can't influence the universe from beyond the grave?
It is so beautiful that I want to write it into a song. There are so many great male groups who could justify this with the addition of Vittorio Grigolo as first tenor.
I can agree with the fictionalized Eichmann, some of Schubert's work feels too syrupy for me, but I like this particular quintet and certainly this adagio.
Although I have since 'crossed the street' I apologize to Dr. Barbara Phinny for giving up classical to play full time Cajun Zydeco. I think my life was far less complicated when I was in the classical realm. Rest in Peace Doctor P.
If you would have told Schubert (a man who wrote a "Deutsche Messe" and "Deutsche Taenze"; the latter mostly consisting of Vienna-style Laendlers) that he was not German he would have looked befuddled. He simply would not have understood what you mean.
Just like a Texan would look befuddled if told that because he was Texan he was not American.
Texas is a state in a contiguous country. You've made an illogical analogy. Speaking the same language does not necessarily bridge or define ethnicity. For example, when India was under British colonial rule, they remained Indian even though they spoke English and were ruled by the British.
"...told Schubert he was not German he would have looked befuddled." Really? is that a fact or an opinion? Do you even know the difference? This silliness is starting to wear me out.
In the early 19th century Austria was a state within Germany (not a state separate from Germany) - actually the most important German state, before being overtaken by Prussia in the mid-19th century. Which then united most of Germany under its leadership, forcing Austria out.
These are - as flaneurdilletante wrote - basic facts known by anyone with minimal knowledge of central European history. But it seems you just do want to learn.
@petrina1022 The point is: a fellow living in the early 19th century in the outskirts of Vienna was both Austrian and German. Not just German-speaking but German.
Austria as an entity different fromGermany is a concept that exists only since 1870 (or maybe 1866). By then Schubert was 40 years dead. In his lifetime Austria was part of Germany; the Habsburg monarch residing in Vienna was even the German emperor.
guess there were no ethnic czechs or hungarians then with there own cultures because of the hapsburgs, if you use politics to explain your brand of "logic."
You just don't get it, do you? The only thing your answer reveals is that you still think in the 19th century there was a contradiction between an "Austrian" and a "German" composer.
Excuse me, but I really don't see the point you are making. If you are trying to say that all German-speaking peoples produce "German" music in the generic sense of the term, well, then, that's one thing. However, I have visited Schubert's birthplace on the outskirts of Vienna. He was clearly and indisputably Austrian. You have yet to show produce a single source that contradicts this fact.
Rostropovich is great here, and I think Pablo Casales performed this C Major late string quintet of Schubert, but I think less famous players, even amateurs should try performing it - don't be afraid - this music should be well known to listerners and performers around the world. This slow movement is particularly powerful and expressive.
We exist in the eternity of peace and tranquility. Then we are born into this vale of tears. Then we return. Listen to the whole movement or it makes no sense.
at the risk of sounding pessimistic . Those who have a short attention span tends to shun instrumental music , especially that of which is over three minutes ...
WHY are there over 30,400 views of the first half of this movement, and only 11,500 or so of this half?! Come on, people, listen to the whole thing--it's totally worth it! And besides, Schubert didn't write this movement so people could hear the first five minutes, think, "Oh, well this is slow and boring, just like every other slow movement I've heard," which is a rather small-minded view of things, and then go and listen to one of the more "exciting" movements...
Why emphasize nationality, you say? because Austria is a separate country, not a "political division." If you told a Pole that Chopin's music was French, he'd sock you in the nose.
Also, by your logic Beethoven was not a German composer but actually a "Prussian" composer, and Handel was a "Brandenburgian" composer. Germany (as such) didn't exist and it was merely the whim of history that certain German regions were merged into the German Empire after these composers died. Austria was one German state among many. Serious histories of "German" music always include Mozart, Schubert, etc. You are applying contemporary notions to a situation that didn't exist yet.
Are you retarded? Austria is NOT Germany; it was and is a separate country just as Poland always retained its identity even when it was taken over by the Soviet Union. Nothing worse than arguing with someone who minces words because they cannot admit when they are WRONG. Sheesh!
Right, and Sicily has absolutely nothing to do with Italy. It has its own history after all, and was not part of a politically united Italy until only recently.
I did not say "Austria is Germany", I said it is a German state that retained its separateness after all the others were merged into the German Empire and later the Republic. This is because the Austro-Hungarian empire was ruled by a separate royal line. This is basic stuff to those who know 19th century history.
Flaneurdilletante is right of course, and petrina is wrong.
In Schubert's liftetime there was no concept of "Austria" that would have set an Austrian apart from a German. Being German meant either living in the Holy Empire -- of which Austria was part (in fact, Austria's ruler Franz II. was the Emperor)--or speaking German. Both applied to Schubert.
yes, "the adagio will rip your heart out"....followed by "I never understood why they card so much for Schubert sentimental shit" spoken by Eichman, a truly terrible man
This is the musical part of the famous HBO MOVIE " CONSPIRACY" ABOUT THE 2-HOUR MEETING (WANNSEE-BERLIN, JAN. 1942) THAT SEALED THE FATE OF THE 6+ EUROPEAN JEWS.
I can't believe it took me this long to hear this. Oh Schubert!
orphyborphy 2 months ago
I'm not a music theorist, just an average Joe who likes Schubert, so forgive my clumsy interpretation. I've been listening to this song for years, and I've always felt the most beautiful part of this piece can be found from 3:40 onwards. It reminds me of the gentle cuddling after sex, when lust has been expelled from the body, and what remains is the intensity of true, tender, soft love. The "swirling" of the cello notes at 3:44, especially, brings tears to my eyes every time. This is true art.
DarthCormac 3 months ago 2
@DarthCormac
That's rather...specific. I don't know if I'd describe it in those terms, but I suppose they get at something about the piece. After the tumultuous F minor middle section (into which we had been wrenched from the first section's tranquil E major), we return to E major with a varied reprise of the first section. One cannot help but hear this music in light of what has just transpired--perhaps as a refuge from whatever threat the middle section is supposed to represent.
darthdidious 3 months ago
@DarthCormac
But the reference to the key of the middle section in the movement's closing measures suggests that all is not well.
darthdidious 3 months ago
@DarthCormac Lust is not Love
emmadazz 1 month ago
Thank you, darthdidious, for posting this beautiful recording of this beautiful piece of work. I have read that Schubert wrote this two months before he died, and that it wasn't performed publicly until 28 years after he died. So he never heard it - at least outside of his head - while he lived. Yet tens of thousands are listening to this more than a century and a half later. Who says we can't influence the universe from beyond the grave?
larssondj 4 months ago 2
la seule œuvre humaine qui puisse me faire croire au paradis !!!
cissou357 6 months ago
It is so beautiful that I want to write it into a song. There are so many great male groups who could justify this with the addition of Vittorio Grigolo as first tenor.
'ears61' please note the spelling of heights.
portgeoff 7 months ago
It is so beautiful that I want to write it into a song.
'ears61' please note the spelling of heights.
portgeoff 7 months ago
the other movements :( ?
pipposback2 7 months ago
where is the part 3?
douglasbenicio2010 8 months ago
@douglasbenicio2010
This is the movement in its entirety.
darthdidious 8 months ago
one of the highest achievments of western civilization
ears61 9 months ago
@ears61 Absolutely -of all civilisation and for a while to come; good luck to any musician who will ever seek to aspire to these hieghts.
sorim1967 7 months ago
@PhysicalsimForever you're an idiot
niamhino 10 months ago
youtube comments are the strangest thing ever. great piece, though
LindseyZJ 11 months ago
Could we all PLEASE stop talking about Schubert or music and talk exclusively about the Nazis from now on?
jfxc1 1 year ago 2
Meraviglioso, aveva ragione Beethoven, Schubert più di lui aveva la Scintilla Divina....
federricoilgrande 1 year ago
¿De donde saca usted que Austria en el siglo XIX perteneció a Alemania? Austria fue la cabeza del Imperio Austrohúgaro, que no es lo mismo.
Por otra parte: aquí lo único que importa es la música.
Zamacola100 1 year ago
@Zamacola100 es cierto pero la cabeza estaba en Budapest.
Atento80 7 months ago
Also, Heydrich was far worse of a man, and he LIKED the piece lol
Bluehawk2008 1 year ago
I can agree with the fictionalized Eichmann, some of Schubert's work feels too syrupy for me, but I like this particular quintet and certainly this adagio.
Bluehawk2008 1 year ago
love this song
its from the movie conspiracy:D
SEETER1 1 year ago
Magnificent!
Although I have since 'crossed the street' I apologize to Dr. Barbara Phinny for giving up classical to play full time Cajun Zydeco. I think my life was far less complicated when I was in the classical realm. Rest in Peace Doctor P.
K5H13760 1 year ago
dream
kokorella1 1 year ago
There is just no better music than this... Incredible.
Mariss666 1 year ago 2
@Mariss666 It's hard to disagree.
volk410 1 year ago
and you know what...yes it is sentimental piece of music but so well constructed (godam...my english is not so good )
suprematismus 1 year ago
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suprematismus 1 year ago
one of the best pieces of music ever written and that is that
suprematismus 1 year ago
GREAT VIDEO !
JustynaPhilipp 1 year ago
Mstislav Rostropovich made a legendary recording of this Schubert's masterpiece with The Melos Quartett Stuttgart in 1978.
MrGunterguerrero 1 year ago
I don't believe some of these comments. What about the beautiful music?
silverstartrucker 1 year ago
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Bluehawk2008 1 year ago
Follow-up:
If you would have told Schubert (a man who wrote a "Deutsche Messe" and "Deutsche Taenze"; the latter mostly consisting of Vienna-style Laendlers) that he was not German he would have looked befuddled. He simply would not have understood what you mean.
Just like a Texan would look befuddled if told that because he was Texan he was not American.
herodot2 1 year ago
@herodot2
Texas is a state in a contiguous country. You've made an illogical analogy. Speaking the same language does not necessarily bridge or define ethnicity. For example, when India was under British colonial rule, they remained Indian even though they spoke English and were ruled by the British.
"...told Schubert he was not German he would have looked befuddled." Really? is that a fact or an opinion? Do you even know the difference? This silliness is starting to wear me out.
petrina1022 1 year ago
@petrina1022
In the early 19th century Austria was a state within Germany (not a state separate from Germany) - actually the most important German state, before being overtaken by Prussia in the mid-19th century. Which then united most of Germany under its leadership, forcing Austria out.
These are - as flaneurdilletante wrote - basic facts known by anyone with minimal knowledge of central European history. But it seems you just do want to learn.
Then please, stay clueless.
herodot2 1 year ago
@petrina1022 Texas was once an independent country.
UmbertoConforti 1 year ago
@petrina1022 The point is: a fellow living in the early 19th century in the outskirts of Vienna was both Austrian and German. Not just German-speaking but German.
Austria as an entity different fromGermany is a concept that exists only since 1870 (or maybe 1866). By then Schubert was 40 years dead. In his lifetime Austria was part of Germany; the Habsburg monarch residing in Vienna was even the German emperor.
herodot2 1 year ago
@herodot2
guess there were no ethnic czechs or hungarians then with there own cultures because of the hapsburgs, if you use politics to explain your brand of "logic."
petrina1022 1 year ago
@petrina1022
You just don't get it, do you? The only thing your answer reveals is that you still think in the 19th century there was a contradiction between an "Austrian" and a "German" composer.
herodot2 1 year ago
@herodot2
Excuse me, but I really don't see the point you are making. If you are trying to say that all German-speaking peoples produce "German" music in the generic sense of the term, well, then, that's one thing. However, I have visited Schubert's birthplace on the outskirts of Vienna. He was clearly and indisputably Austrian. You have yet to show produce a single source that contradicts this fact.
petrina1022 1 year ago
@herodot2
opinion, not fact.
petrina1022 1 year ago
Beautiful....thanks for posting this...
jmelkis 1 year ago
Rostropovich is great here, and I think Pablo Casales performed this C Major late string quintet of Schubert, but I think less famous players, even amateurs should try performing it - don't be afraid - this music should be well known to listerners and performers around the world. This slow movement is particularly powerful and expressive.
Lactoris1 1 year ago
We exist in the eternity of peace and tranquility. Then we are born into this vale of tears. Then we return. Listen to the whole movement or it makes no sense.
ikmarchini 2 years ago
This is my desert island recording. I have now owned 4 copies just for me. It's such an incredibly exciting recording.
NHCello 2 years ago
at the risk of sounding pessimistic . Those who have a short attention span tends to shun instrumental music , especially that of which is over three minutes ...
rfuturemd1 2 years ago
WHY are there over 30,400 views of the first half of this movement, and only 11,500 or so of this half?! Come on, people, listen to the whole thing--it's totally worth it! And besides, Schubert didn't write this movement so people could hear the first five minutes, think, "Oh, well this is slow and boring, just like every other slow movement I've heard," which is a rather small-minded view of things, and then go and listen to one of the more "exciting" movements...
timeandEternity 2 years ago 2
This is the part it plays on Conspiracy when the credits start. When I first watched it I had no idea that this was part of the song as well.
TarHeelGreatness6 2 years ago
WONDERFUL
mirandacentaurus 2 years ago
This is nice German Music!
mirandacentaurus 2 years ago
Austrian, not German (Schubert was from Vienna)
petrina1022 2 years ago
Why emphasise nationality (an arbitrary political division) rather than culture? Schubert is part of the tradition of German Music.
flaneurdilettante 2 years ago
Why emphasize nationality, you say? because Austria is a separate country, not a "political division." If you told a Pole that Chopin's music was French, he'd sock you in the nose.
petrina1022 2 years ago
I see, it's all about nationalistic ego-stroking then. Great.
flaneurdilettante 2 years ago
@flaneurdilettante
No, it's about preserving historically accuracy.
petrina1022 1 year ago
Also, by your logic Beethoven was not a German composer but actually a "Prussian" composer, and Handel was a "Brandenburgian" composer. Germany (as such) didn't exist and it was merely the whim of history that certain German regions were merged into the German Empire after these composers died. Austria was one German state among many. Serious histories of "German" music always include Mozart, Schubert, etc. You are applying contemporary notions to a situation that didn't exist yet.
flaneurdilettante 2 years ago
Are you retarded? Austria is NOT Germany; it was and is a separate country just as Poland always retained its identity even when it was taken over by the Soviet Union. Nothing worse than arguing with someone who minces words because they cannot admit when they are WRONG. Sheesh!
petrina1022 2 years ago
Right, and Sicily has absolutely nothing to do with Italy. It has its own history after all, and was not part of a politically united Italy until only recently.
I did not say "Austria is Germany", I said it is a German state that retained its separateness after all the others were merged into the German Empire and later the Republic. This is because the Austro-Hungarian empire was ruled by a separate royal line. This is basic stuff to those who know 19th century history.
belzondium 2 years ago
@belzondium Couldn't you say that about other parts of Italy as well? I mean, they were their own countries and regions as well.
jmelkis 1 year ago
@jmelkis That was EXACTLY my point.
flaneurdilettante 1 year ago
Flaneurdilletante is right of course, and petrina is wrong.
In Schubert's liftetime there was no concept of "Austria" that would have set an Austrian apart from a German. Being German meant either living in the Holy Empire -- of which Austria was part (in fact, Austria's ruler Franz II. was the Emperor)--or speaking German. Both applied to Schubert.
herodot2 1 year ago
@herodot2 Franz Schubert "Austrian composer who brideged the worlds of Classicaland Romantic music, noted for [his] songs."--Encylopedia Brittanica
"FranzSchubert, an early romantic Austrain compower, is best known for his lieder..."---Encyclopedia of World Biography
Show me a source that says Schubert was a German composer before you decide to make inane and incorrect assertions.
petrina1022 1 year ago
i'm so excited to get to play this!
cellolove7 2 years ago
""Fantastic!"
Many people wanted this Adagio at their funeral.
Nestrovsky 2 years ago
ME TOO!
mirandacentaurus 2 years ago
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Nestrovsky 2 years ago
a bit haunting
profoundlysecret1 2 years ago
I think Artur Rubinstein wanted this played at his funeral.
earshape 3 years ago
yes, "the adagio will rip your heart out"....followed by "I never understood why they card so much for Schubert sentimental shit" spoken by Eichman, a truly terrible man
davidalexander99 3 years ago 5
I think something like 'brilliant' suits better than 'sentimental shit' when speaking of Schubert!
olga2809 3 years ago 10
This part of the Adagio is played when the film shows the fates of all those that attended the Wansee conference.
Most of them went on to live happy lives in post-war Germany :S
Bluehawk2008 2 years ago
@davidalexander99 i think thats just from a movie
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@davidalexander99
"the adagio will rip your heart out" ... spoken by Reinhard Heydrich, also a truly terrible man. ;)
oneb14 1 year ago
Yes, well worth waiting for the 2nd half..
yourforte 3 years ago
This is the musical part of the famous HBO MOVIE " CONSPIRACY" ABOUT THE 2-HOUR MEETING (WANNSEE-BERLIN, JAN. 1942) THAT SEALED THE FATE OF THE 6+ EUROPEAN JEWS.
A MOVIE YOU MUST SEE!
VONENGHELBERG 3 years ago
O yes,this is the part played in the Conspiracy movie
gmihut 3 years ago