Andy Timmons Lone Star - Stiletto Comparison

[GuillermoSmyser]

I played a mark V and a lone star yesterday. The Lone Star's cleans were the perfect marriage of that vintage clean that doesn't get too piercing. For instance, my strat and tele's bridge pickups force me to change the clean settings on my Express 2:25. But these two amps together are obviously just awesome.

[Malikon13]

I looked up the word, 'Tone" and it said, "See THIS video!"

[checkie4ever]

wow man, such a amazing sound....these amps are priceless, before when you wanted such a sound, you had to spend a lot more for all kinds of effects with expensive amp...

[jsabo1929]

miiiight be the best tones ive ever heard, ever.

[mazsenior]

@rodrigozamo If you could build an amp with 6L6's and EL-34's, that would be possible, but due to size/weight limitations, it's not practical.

[Waterboy157]

6L6 tubes are beautiful....so smooth.

[timjatomnee]

@Waterboy157

The difference is more in circuit and tranny's etc than in the tubes.

[rodrigozamo]

@koshiaru amy winehouse got that right

[wedge070]

I love the sound of that Lone Star amp... want one..

[homersimps1]

Wow, I can't find a fault with either one of these amps. Both are outstanding. So worth the money.

[homersimps1]

@koshiaru I was joking, but thanks for the advice! I'll never quit playing - it's too addictive. :)

[homersimps1]

Andy makes me want to throw my guitar out the window and stop playing. He's so good.

[hawg427]

I had read onn the Mesa website that the clean tone from the Stiletto was that Pristine clean. But your video sounded clean to me. I like the EL-34 sound better. Does the Lone Star have a switchable power like from 50 watts down to 5 like the Mesa Express 5:50 Combo? Also how much difference in tone will I get if I get a Mesa Combo than a Mesa Head?

Fantastic Playing.

Thank's,

Lou

[pilotSSW]

@hawg427 -- I personally own the Lonestar combo, they switch between 100, 50 and 10 watts. You can definitely hear a difference especially when you crank them up, the mids and treble shine at the 10 watts settings, very clear and articulate, the 100 watt is boomy, but punchy. 50 is kinda midsy and bassy but not really a halfway between the two.

[pilotSSW]

@hawg427

The head and combo arent that different if you get a lonestar cab for the head. Andy uses a rectifier cab with his head, definitely a fatter, warmer but tighter sound. I personally prefer the lonestar cab (my mix would be the lonestar 4x10 with the rectifier 2x12 if I had the head) .

Hope this helps, I'll be glad to help in any way I can, best of luck ~ PilotSSW

[Gynormagantuan]

Not that he needs a better tone, but his tone really improved when he went to Mesa from Laney (I think that was what he used before). The new amps make his notes sound more alive, the Mesas really have a quick attack I really like.

Speaking of making amps with best of both, it will be difficult to get EL34 to sound very direct or 6L6 very thick. And if they do make it happen, it's like making your own amps obsolete. Unless ur very particular (or rich) Get a do-it-all like Mk V or something.

[sportbigred]

I agree with ericprsse. The Lonestar has that nice clean tone while the Stiletto has a more immediate and aggressive distortion tone with lots of bite and edge. Mesa boogie needs to introduce yet another amp sharing both these attributes in one amp.

[foxtrotalex]

I imagine they are working on something currently. In the mean time, the new Road King II has both the Lonestar 6l6 clean channel, as well as el34s to get that stiletto tone.

[Luckie7falcon77]

lonestar wins in my opinion...more fat tones...less attack... Ericprsse is right tho....lonestar clean wins...stiletto lead wins ha....

[BluesThor]

the lonastar sound a bit John mayerish :D

[bcats171]

who cares i want the both lol

[f2kflyer]

Hey Andy -

Why 2 Recto 212's in lieu of a 412 Recto cab? In your opinion, what's the difference/advantage (other than portability)?

[coxfox10]

more sound for a show man prob. Im just guessing though

[foxtrotalex]

andy says that he thinks the 2x12s are punchier and tighter in the bottom end. He used to use the 4x12s

[buckster7777]

Sweet guitar too...

[Adji87]

Im loving the lonestar on both to be honest. The Stiletto has TOO much immediacy and attack for me, its very 'clicky' with the pick attack. Im saving for a lonestar :)

[randynelson1]

Shit I'll take them all.Lonestar,Stiletto,Rectifie­r,DC,Nomad,Etectra Dyne & Mark I,IIC+,III,IV, V.Anything Mesa send it my way...........

[ericprsse]

lonestar clean channel wins; stiletto lead wins... for me at least

[gilbertgodlyddd]

Ah for me it's lonestar for both, stilleto has too much. . . . Punch. Both gorgeous though.

Which costs more?

[tylerdwells]

i think the stilleto does. i think.

[EscpdFrmPsykward]

Lonestar is slight more expensive. $100 or $200 more.

[AzArAzA95]

@ericprsse ...Gotta have both :D

[Machine1]

What kind of "echo" does he use in the loop? Anyone know?

[rixills]

two deluxe memory men pedals. in another video he tells you exactly how he has them set.

[punkdude543]

electro harmonix memory man. he uses two at different times for delay.

[krazeraiderfan]

@Machine1 He uses two vintage Electro Harmonix Memory Man Deluxe pedals with one set at 350 ms delay and the other set at 500 ms delay along with the chorus on. I am pretty sure these are the settings.

[soulbrotha4u]

A great comparison video. Yes, thanks Mesa and Andy.

[sebace]

awesome stuff, thanks Mesa/Boogie for your great amps!

[phallystorm]

@sebace MESA BOOGIE RULES!! Randall Smith, and the BOOGIE team are Artistic TONE engineers. Just look inside any Mesa, and you will see Quality, high end components, and "built like a Brick Shit House "workmanship" It is hard to find any Mesa amp that has a bad sound in them. There is an amp for any application, My setup is a MESA Quad running through a SIMUL Class 295 Power Amp. In that I have 50 years of Grammy winning tone! I love Mesa, and can see how some people are addicted to them!