well, only so many can be enlightened in the right ways at once. somebody is aways going to fallout. the tighter the system, the more will fall. competent sages are essential to direct before grey. anyway, our population is too large, and there are too many people on too many unequal levels. Merit should translate into the same things no matter where you live and motivators and desires should be placed properly.
this is not that we all get enlightened in the right ways. any of us live in different life condition and need the right consciousness and cooping ideas to improve. when you ask all to be enlightened the same way, you exactly bring the "one way" (1st tier) ideas and Clinton here ask for higher perspective.
Who is talking about faith and love ? Is your knowledge include Spiral Dynamics Integral model?
Clinton is speaking on different consciousness then what you talk about, if it was "faith & love" kind of idea, I would not waste my time promoting it, as I know more about it, do you know about it ?
@IntegralNeri No, I'm talking about things relevant to this discussion. No, our leaders work off of faith. I have none. The global society won't work. Game theory. Kingdom of hearts.
so what do you propose, what is the knowledge you point of? "Game theory" is good knowledge, but partial as it is external. what is the knowladge you base your assertion that "global society won't work" as this is the 1st time we have such option. (BTW, check out Haiti .... why so many help this poor community?)
@IntegralNeri they didn't help anyone. they knew before. they let it happen then claim a victory. just like they claim reactions, as I said before a post, and limit us from a young age. I worship stars, I guess, of human flesh.
@interestingramble i agree with u i.ramble the world is a stage and we have front row tickets....just turn on the tv and enjoy the show i encourage all to think for themselves however ive come to learn that some of us are either driven by fear to the point that they will go against any reasoning that might put their so called reality in jeopardy. i refuse to live in fear and strive to reach the point of unconditional love it is not any easy task to face the fact that we really dont know who we
@interestingramble part 2 . truely are and realize that every decision that we made in our lives such as career, social class, intellectual status according to society is a huge lie. we all form one living organism physically, spiritually we are all connected and its up to u and me to help others free themselves from an unbalanced reality that contradicts itself purposely to keep you mind confused the revolution is your mind and have total control of the outcome. i have no respect for those
@interestingramble part3 that are willing to kill those that cannot defend themselves just to accomplish there 1worldorder. and i understand those on the otherside of the spectrum when i became aware of whats really going on it took a couple of days for me to process the info and cope with the harsh reality. ignorance is bliss for those that dont have the courage think for themselves and much respect to those that pay the ultimate price for opening the eyes of the world.peace2uall
@interestingramble Actually Game theorists have pointed out greater cooperation is likely to be beneficial to all organisms, check out Robert Wright. He puts the info forward very rationally. Merit is important at 'Orange' level societies but it takes time for societies to level up. You might find Spiral Dynamics useful to help understand this aspect of the Integral AQAL framework.
MOST ppl are decent and share what they can. Stats on wealth concentration shows a VERY TINY minority hogs VAST wealth. Much is ill gotten, even illegitimate, or "rent-seeking" via govt favors. Clinton's "base" and Bush's "base", esp the protected and rigged finance orgs. Nothing has changed, nor will. They want/need more, their machine is perpetually hungry, devouring itself.
I could be incorrect, but forget partisan bickering. Bush is a front man for the same ppl as Clinton.
This person has 45 million people in his own country who do not have health care, and he is lecturing others about health? Further, his wife was one of the key figures responsible in botching universal medicare in the US. Only in comparison to presidents like George Bush can he be called great. How else do you fail at implementing healthcare and get to be called great?
Mattube777: Clinton was a more phony president than Bush. Clinton in addition to maintaining the leathel to children sanctions on Iraq also bombed Iraq continuously throughout his presidency and conducted other wars too. He was just better at rationalizing his war crimes.
Donkey of Heaven: Yeah youre actually right. All U.S. foreign policy is messed up to the bone. And they call themselves Human Rights Defenders? Look at what they did in South America, they suported every single murderous dictatorship. Watch CREATING ENEMIES trailer on you tube !
I couldn't agree more. I'm in Sydney Australia, and have joined the Sydney Integral Salon. I was reading the website from the Integral Israel Salon last night. The article on Don Beck's visit (and the very beautiful human story about the guys who got him there) was amazing. It was really wonderful to read such 'wizardry' - it is such a shame that it is so hard to apply a model for integration over there which is so exquisite.
Dear Australian friend, it is not easy but today Don finished his 3rd visit, we manifested a lot so far and soon you will be able to read it in Palestine Times ... the history is moving now and real people are invested in creating "natural design" of our habitat.
and as clinton say, peopole with this kind of counsiousness are reframing and changing our world for the better. Neri Tel-Aviv Israel
Well, that's pretty cool! I suppose. At least they're talking about it. At least Integral has come to the attention of those who hold office and influence.
I love Bill Clinton!
smallpotatoes989 1 month ago
well, only so many can be enlightened in the right ways at once. somebody is aways going to fallout. the tighter the system, the more will fall. competent sages are essential to direct before grey. anyway, our population is too large, and there are too many people on too many unequal levels. Merit should translate into the same things no matter where you live and motivators and desires should be placed properly.
interestingramble 2 years ago
this is not that we all get enlightened in the right ways. any of us live in different life condition and need the right consciousness and cooping ideas to improve. when you ask all to be enlightened the same way, you exactly bring the "one way" (1st tier) ideas and Clinton here ask for higher perspective.
IntegralNeri 2 years ago
@IntegralNeri faith and love will not get you through the eternal night, only knowledge.
interestingramble 2 years ago
Who is talking about faith and love ? Is your knowledge include Spiral Dynamics Integral model?
Clinton is speaking on different consciousness then what you talk about, if it was "faith & love" kind of idea, I would not waste my time promoting it, as I know more about it, do you know about it ?
IntegralNeri 2 years ago
@IntegralNeri No, I'm talking about things relevant to this discussion. No, our leaders work off of faith. I have none. The global society won't work. Game theory. Kingdom of hearts.
interestingramble 2 years ago
@interestingramble,
so what do you propose, what is the knowledge you point of? "Game theory" is good knowledge, but partial as it is external. what is the knowladge you base your assertion that "global society won't work" as this is the 1st time we have such option. (BTW, check out Haiti .... why so many help this poor community?)
IntegralNeri 2 years ago
@IntegralNeri they didn't help anyone. they knew before. they let it happen then claim a victory. just like they claim reactions, as I said before a post, and limit us from a young age. I worship stars, I guess, of human flesh.
interestingramble 2 years ago
@interestingramble i agree with u i.ramble the world is a stage and we have front row tickets....just turn on the tv and enjoy the show i encourage all to think for themselves however ive come to learn that some of us are either driven by fear to the point that they will go against any reasoning that might put their so called reality in jeopardy. i refuse to live in fear and strive to reach the point of unconditional love it is not any easy task to face the fact that we really dont know who we
siteone652 1 year ago
@interestingramble part 2 . truely are and realize that every decision that we made in our lives such as career, social class, intellectual status according to society is a huge lie. we all form one living organism physically, spiritually we are all connected and its up to u and me to help others free themselves from an unbalanced reality that contradicts itself purposely to keep you mind confused the revolution is your mind and have total control of the outcome. i have no respect for those
siteone652 1 year ago
@interestingramble part3 that are willing to kill those that cannot defend themselves just to accomplish there 1worldorder. and i understand those on the otherside of the spectrum when i became aware of whats really going on it took a couple of days for me to process the info and cope with the harsh reality. ignorance is bliss for those that dont have the courage think for themselves and much respect to those that pay the ultimate price for opening the eyes of the world.peace2uall
siteone652 1 year ago
@interestingramble Actually Game theorists have pointed out greater cooperation is likely to be beneficial to all organisms, check out Robert Wright. He puts the info forward very rationally. Merit is important at 'Orange' level societies but it takes time for societies to level up. You might find Spiral Dynamics useful to help understand this aspect of the Integral AQAL framework.
VirianFlux 1 year ago
Spoken like a true elitist!
TrailerNo9 2 years ago
Way do you think that?
(or do you think your way is better then his way?)
IntegralNeri 2 years ago
yes...
TrailerNo9 2 years ago
non-poor... hah
duncality 2 years ago
Bill Clinton's favorite philosopher is Ken Wilber; George W. Bush's favorite is Jesus Christ.
sa9e 3 years ago 2
ROTFL :DDD
janklosowski 2 years ago
Where's the rest of this video??
MisterMolecule 3 years ago
It is actually simple cut from a full interview that was free online, I could not find it yet ... I'll give the link here when I find it.
IntegralNeri 2 years ago
MOST ppl are decent and share what they can. Stats on wealth concentration shows a VERY TINY minority hogs VAST wealth. Much is ill gotten, even illegitimate, or "rent-seeking" via govt favors. Clinton's "base" and Bush's "base", esp the protected and rigged finance orgs. Nothing has changed, nor will. They want/need more, their machine is perpetually hungry, devouring itself.
I could be incorrect, but forget partisan bickering. Bush is a front man for the same ppl as Clinton.
dilbertgeg 5 years ago
just because the current president sucks doesn't erase the failures of the past ones.
Helmstade 5 years ago
This person has 45 million people in his own country who do not have health care, and he is lecturing others about health? Further, his wife was one of the key figures responsible in botching universal medicare in the US. Only in comparison to presidents like George Bush can he be called great. How else do you fail at implementing healthcare and get to be called great?
jobson2000 5 years ago
Everybody can be called great, in comparison to president G.Bush
ryanpeng84 5 years ago
See? This was a real president. Not like the disaster that Bush is.
matttube777 5 years ago
Mattube777: Clinton was a more phony president than Bush. Clinton in addition to maintaining the leathel to children sanctions on Iraq also bombed Iraq continuously throughout his presidency and conducted other wars too. He was just better at rationalizing his war crimes.
DonkeyofHeaven 4 years ago
Donkey of Heaven: Yeah youre actually right. All U.S. foreign policy is messed up to the bone. And they call themselves Human Rights Defenders? Look at what they did in South America, they suported every single murderous dictatorship. Watch CREATING ENEMIES trailer on you tube !
matttube777 4 years ago 2
Adding something to this - I understand that Bill and Don Beck have worked together.
lukefullagarhotmail 5 years ago
Yes they did. Don works with others and now we need the Middle East leaders to get his Integral wizardry.
IntegralNeri 5 years ago
I couldn't agree more. I'm in Sydney Australia, and have joined the Sydney Integral Salon. I was reading the website from the Integral Israel Salon last night. The article on Don Beck's visit (and the very beautiful human story about the guys who got him there) was amazing. It was really wonderful to read such 'wizardry' - it is such a shame that it is so hard to apply a model for integration over there which is so exquisite.
lukefullagarhotmail 5 years ago
Dear Australian friend, it is not easy but today Don finished his 3rd visit, we manifested a lot so far and soon you will be able to read it in Palestine Times ... the history is moving now and real people are invested in creating "natural design" of our habitat.
and as clinton say, peopole with this kind of counsiousness are reframing and changing our world for the better. Neri Tel-Aviv Israel
IntegralNeri 5 years ago
Well, that's pretty cool! I suppose. At least they're talking about it. At least Integral has come to the attention of those who hold office and influence.
thepathlesspath 5 years ago