Cadbury Gorilla Drum Lesson.In The Air Tonight Mike Hoddinott

[markopuljiz123]

I think this was spot on, regardless to the other comments. I also noticed that Phil himself tends to improvise a bit... but this is the actual studio version.

[semajttam]

I would just like to point out to @obopolis that your comments to this gentleman, who has kindly demonstrated this drum fill to others who may not be aware of PHil Collins' contribution to drumming, were unnecessary. (Mike, there is an extra bass drum in between the two final flams though but spot on) If you have nothing nice to say then say nothing.

[MrCandyman5000]

thnx dis is the first thing i learned on the drums and i always play it cuz as u said its simple but affective

[xoKnightRiderox]

Whenever someone asks me to play something on the drums its more or less always this cause ii can proudly say 'Yurrrp, ii can drum like a gorilla ;)' haha cheers!

[EpicalObsessedPanda]

THUMBS UP FOR BRISTOL :D

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

Hi.

Ya gotta get those bass drums in though.

Thanks for watching.

Good luck

Mike h

[soccerbroboy]

culdnt u just go

snarex2

high tomx2

low tomx2

floor tomx2 ?

nice vid!!

[dodgexXx1]

that was awesome it just sounds just like the drums in the song and how long u been play in drums

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

@dodgexXx1

Oh....only about 30 years.......should be good by now!! lol

Thanks

Mike h

[dodgexXx1]

u did that good that was awesome how long u been playin the drums

[inboy44]

the last two notes are on the floor tom

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

That's absolutely correct , but , try getting a six year old to count off in sixteenths with every third note a bass drum .

It verges on metric modulation of 3/16 in 4/4 time.

(I'm sure some body will tell me if that's not right !! )

Thanks for watching and a valid comment .

Cheers

[houverdam]

Interesting interpretation. But really you should be counting:

1 e & a 2 e & a 3 e & a 4 &

[Obopolis]

That sucked!

That was the worst attempt I have ever seen.

The snare was never in it it sounds completely out of place and WRONG

So to anyone who reads this comment please try a different video

Don't waste your time as I just did.

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

@Obopolis

Hi.

Thanks (?) for the comment.

Please read previous threads as I have explained the snare drum part.

I use this method many times nearly every week with younger students and never fails.

Thanks

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

@Obopolis

Ahhhh I forgot!

Pleeeassee don't tell people what to do .

It takes me a good few hours to record and edit videos and I think most people are intelligent enough to work out for themselves if they like it or not .

At this time , this vid has had almost 11,000 views and mostly positive comments .

I'm happy !

[wesdotgord]

@MIKEHODDINOTT OK here lies your problem..... THE SNARE

easy to fix : )

so rather than hitting the snare twice at the end hit the two tom tom's with both sticks

This can be done with a small kit like yours and without the out of place snare (which is a higher and sharper note than toms) at the end. this will sound much more like In The Air Tonight

Try It Peace Mike

P.S.Dont hate on Obopolis -__-

[XxXxMoTaGeXxXx]

@MIKEHODDINOTT i know why do people be so nasty its your passion and u like it so don't take the piss i just started learning drums and i tell u what if u have the guts to record yourself don't even bother trying to ruin other peoples career

[Albin0Donkey]

@Obopolis Dude, you suck.

this was a great video and this guys a great drummer.

this vid really helped me so go fuck yourself

[Obopolis]

@Albin0Donkey Dear PLUG you fist dont know how to drum if you think this is how you play the song this is laughable. You need to go compare the song to this video then talk to me.

THE SNARE IS WRONG

sorry bud you suck

halla to @wesdotgord

[Albin0Donkey]

@Obopolis stfu u knob, i'm giving good feedback instead of being a know-it all prick like u.

so fuck urself

[Destroyer900000]

@Obopolis it sucked? it was bloddy amazing what have you been smoking?!!!

[JessThePooh]

Awsome! - Always wanted to be able to play that properly :)

[cjaterry]

love the accent

[jonnyjap]

I can't believe how negative people are - here's how I see it , on the single released there is no snare on the drum intro but it really doesn't matter that this video shows it, the most important thing is he is teaching you a way to play it and dropping in the massive hint about the bass is something that loads of people do miss out I wish there were more positive people like this guy giving his time up to post a video to help others for free. What a decent bloke. Thankyou

[icantthinkofanameahh]

thanks dude 

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

Well......er that's good to know mate .

So it takes me four hours to record and edit this video and that's the pay off ?

Cheers!

[unitedalltheway1]

ur bass drum sounds lke shit nd ur toms sound like a ball sack flapping

[jonnyjap]

@unitedalltheway1 your attitude stinks

[thesatancow]

Thanks Mike. I think people need to realize that what you are showing is the basic idea of how the fill goes. Average kits don't have the range of drums needed to do this exact, so being exact only matters for knowing the basic pitch intervals and timing. I have always found some humor in people getting free information then complaining about it. It's like someone taking you to dinner and bitching that they won't spring for the lobster haha. Thanks so much for the help.

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

Hi.

Thanks for the comment.

I've checked a transcription on Web humper .com .

It is as you say 16ths and a couple of 8ths at the end.

Although I'm counting off in 3's and 6's , it all adds up to 16 in the end.

12 notes plus the 8th notes split into 4 16th notes add up to 16 = 1 bar.

Please make sure you put the last two notes on a floor tom or all hell will be let loose (Lol!)

[chadlovesdrums]

@MIKEHODDINOTT see mate there you go sheet music tells all 

[thesatancow]

Hey Mike, Great video, helped a lot, the problem I'm having at the moment is that I'm a guitarist trying to sequence drums for this, hahaha. So I'm not great at picking the timing up in a way I can understand, are you playing 4 sets of 4 16th notes then 2 8th notes at the end? or are their triplets in there?

[AnimeFreakie]

awsme!!!!

[chadlovesdrums]

cut the snare out there is no snare in the intro ''end of story'' you get everything right up untill you go to the snare..with those last 2 hits do them on the floor tom and then you continue the song if anybody would like me to post a video of the real..real intro on a same size kit as this gentleman i would gladly do so....im not trying to upstage you mate its just you have claimed a miss fact of it being the proper way.

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

Well my eyes and ears have not let me down that often over the pat 35 years and 20 of them as a professional drummer and teacher. I do explain about improvising with other drums in the video .

I still don't understand why you think this is wrong .

Timing is correct and apart from uttlising the kit that is available , it sounds ok.

You haven't picked up that I'm not using Concert Toms or that the sizes are different.

What really matters is, this is a simple and effective way of teaching the fill.

[chadlovesdrums]

no..yeah i keep watching this but you are wrong there is no snare in the intro fill ''at all'' i recommend you atempt to watch phil himself do it. its quite obvious you havent read the sheet music or seen how he does it

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

@chadlovesdrums

Ok.

I haven't read the sheet music , I rely on my eyes and ears with this one.

The reason that I put the snare on the end is that most people, mainly kids out there , haven't got the amount of kit that Phil Collins has .I feel there has to be some sort of solid end to the fill , so I teach people to use the snare to denote the end of the fill . People have to have some licence with which drums to use especially if most people , and I know from teaching , only have smaller kit

[chadlovesdrums]

@MIKEHODDINOTT well that solid end to the fill is the floor tom but anyway to avoid any more misunderstandings could you correct your statement at the start of the video of it being the proper way that phil collins does it as it will make people belive that it is. p.s your eyes and ears have lied to you.

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

Ok.so what 's wrong then?

Please read previous posts



[unitedalltheway1]

wrong wrong wrong u suck nd it wasnt made famous by a fucking man in a gorilla suit

[unitedalltheway1]

@MITCHHDOOLEY ye

[MrP3tro]

Wrong M8 Phil don't play song like that .

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

How do Phil play it then mate?

[chadlovesdrums]

hold the fuckin phone that song was NOT made famous by a fuckin chimp that is one of the most known songs on the planet

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

Well , no one is disagreeing with you.

But, the FILL is now more recognised than the song by this current generation.

When I ask students if they know who Phil Collins is , they have no idea. When I play them the filll, most mention chocolate. From there on , I can entertain them with Genesis and Brand X tracks . Some older students have gone on to play Nuclear Burn !

Ultimatley , the winner here is Mr Collins . BIG royalty cheque and well deserved.

Please try and keep the language tame .

Ta .

[flashgames248]

@chadlovesdrums na hassle fruite pastle

[firstmusic00]

If you want to hear a nice clear slowed down take on this fill...have a listen to "Thru These Walls" from his 1982 album "Hello, I must Be Going". He uses that same fill several times through out the piece...just slower. You can really hear each strike.

-Cheers

[firstmusic00]

You need to add a bass hit in between your last 2 strikes.

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

@firstmusic00

Hi.

I don't believe there are any extra bass drums. I'll have another look though.

Thanks

[firstmusic00]

@MIKEHODDINOTT It basically ends with a triplet....snare, bass, snare.

[MIKEHODDINOTT]

@firstmusic00

Well it seems sometimes live he does play an extra bass drum , but I can't hear it on the studio single version.

Still, whatever Mr Collins plays,it's still one of the most iconic and recognised fills in drum history.

Thanks for the well informed comment.

Cheers

mike h



[firstmusic00]

@MIKEHODDINOTT He plays it in the studio version, but the gated reverb sound masks it a bit....but it's there.

Still though...you're closer than most I've seen here on YT.

-Cheers from the USA

[BennyPootron]

@firstmusic00

you are right, but it only sounds that way when it's not live. a video documentary on "Face Value" shows that Phil does do the "tom, bass, tom" ending in the studio. but if you carefully watch and listen to Phil's "No Jacket Required Tour" Dallas video, he does not do the "tom, bass, tom" live. I've been watching that video for nearly 2 years everyday, at least 50 times a day. haha I guess most of us prefer [the live performances > the studio version] when it comes to this song.

[johngozdawa101]

nice, thanks for breaking it down and making it simply

[TheGravityCaitlin94]

nice :)

[athiiiiest]

thanks for the video, very helpful!

[eminemlad26]

im 12 and i tryed this and its realy easy



[cocotheflyingnut]

Great vid! I like short tutorials on cool fills! Thanks!