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  • It seems to me that the writers were so ashame of the story that they stuck in the part about being a virgin.

  • I looked up the different English translations about Judges 11:31 AND they are translated it as the word "and". I guess you know more about Hebrew than all the other translators. I am sure that they would want the word "or" more than the word "and" if they could get by with it.

  • this is a comment directed at CRoadwarrior

  • I wouldn't even care if you were correcting me. Well I would care, I would actually appreciate it.

    This is exactly what I found, and if you do as CRoadwarrior suggests in the comments on his video, and go to any Hebrew "expert" from pretty much any university and they will say the same thing.

    I also explain how it can be translated as an "or" in the videos but the reasoning behind it being translated as an "or" does not match the Judges 11:31 verse.

  • @DavinCreed Good video reply, however, I thought CRW brought up some excellent points in his video. My take on this issue is that even if your correct with your and/or interpretation it still doesn't prove that she was sacrificed before the Lord. In fact the verses make mention that she was a virign and that she was given 2 months to mourn that she would never know a man or in essence remain a virgin for she was given to the Lord not as a burn offering but as a life servant in the temple.

  • @DavinCreed Continued.... It was a common practice in the OT for Jewish women who were virgins to be given in devotion to the Lord as a life servant in the temple which is what happened to Jephtha's daughter given that the verses are talking about her virginity and not her life, that's the key thing in the Josh 11:29-40.

  • LOL. Oh please. You do not know Hebrew. You are a pretender. And at the very least, you should or could have quoted a Hebrew grammar to support your position. You were blocked temporarily, DC, and have had the opportunity to respond. You can fool the ignorant with this crap, but not those who know Hebrew or who can look things up in credible sources. You are not even using standard Hebrew grammatical terminology ("exclusive or"/ "inclusive or"). Nice straw man, by the way at the end.

  • "You also need to demonstrate, as I pointed out, that the two clauses in Judges 11:31 are clearly synonymous." That is your whole sentence, and people can look up the screen shots or look on my main page to see it. It is not my fault if all you provide as an argument is made of straw.

  • I have an idea,why don't you just provide the reasoning that extends beyond"some dude said it,so it is so"like I had been asking since the beginning.You could have just answered my question,but instead you decided to be a dick and start an argument. It would have been an easy answer for a knowledgeable person, and yet you could not answer it.

    You started an assault on me just because I pointed out that you were using an appeal to authority that could easily have been cleared up by explaining it.

  • And every Hebrew grammar I've come across attests two usages to v: as a conjunctive (always "and," to be explained shortly) or as a tense-switcher between past and future tenses.

    The disjunctive (or) is aleph-mem, as seen in 2 Samuel 24:13.

    Now, for why vav-conjunctive is always "and," in Hebrew as in Arabic (waw,) cont...

  • Translating vav as "or" is an English convention. A German example: "ich bin ins Kino gegangen." EN literal, "I am in the movie gone." EN understood, "I have gone to the movie."

    In Hebrew, the vav used in "I killed a bird and a snake" (v-et-nahash) is and; it's the same if I negate the verb, "I did not kill a bird and a snake" literally, "nor a snake" in proper English. In boolean, it's verb (p and q), notverb (p and q.) "Am" is or, "v" is and. End of line.

  • Great video Davin, GREAT - but the MUSIC, dude? Can something be done about that music? I just can't hear you.

  • Aye, I will upload a new one tonight.

  • I uploaded a video with a louder voice over the crappy music, please delete the one that doesn't have (Louder Voice) from your video responses to your Jephthah video.

  • Voice volume needs to be raised, and drop the volume on the background music.

    Otherwise, nice video.

  • I posted one with a louder voice and the volume on the music down.

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