Wait a minute, old time pianist make with tempo fluctuations, hit wrong notes and everything. The interpretation took precedence over everything else. Not how straight someone could play.
Maybe it is his brother, thus explaining the same name and the incredible likeness of their photographs. In that case, you are owed an apology, your playing is pretty good to be fair, though it doesn't touch upon your brother's.
Fraud...Rachmaninoff could play this better after a liter of vodka, on his death bed, with 1 finger. What an injustice to such a great musician! I own the complete recordings of Rachmaninoff - not surprising this crap isn't on it...
This could be Rachmaninoff playing. After Scriabin died, Rachmaninoff went on the road and played concerts containing Scriabin's works. The concerts were not well received and those hearing the music agreed that Rach did not play Scriabin's music the way it was meant to be played. This is certainly true in this case and Scriabin's version is far superior to Rach's. Sad to say, Rachmaninoff (as much as we love him) does not seem to get the point of Scriabin's music.
5% of you guys can do it better, and everyone is frkn hating him. of c its not rachmaninoff but at least he can play it , u guys put a video of yourself playing it and then you can judge lol.
And what's with the last chords? They are played as arpeggio and we all know Rachmaninoff could reach even a 12. Next time search for RACHMANINOFF's biography and then make a joke like this.
Not even above average piano playing.Clueless as is this post.The phrasing has no breadth no sense of tension and repose.This isnt even a graduate 's worth of playing.
Ha ha.You thought that we are some circus monkeys that are easy to lie. I assure you that you will lose your account because of this frauda. Rachmaninoff is legendary for his tone and technique and he could be recognized easily. This metronome-like performance has no emotions, dynamics and phrasing, only a bunch of notes. Look at Horowitz to see a true performance though the triplets near the end are without control. Play like them. Then you can name yourself baby Horowitz or baby Rachmaninoff.
Interesting that the poster/performer calls himself "Horowitz" and plays as "Rachmaninoff", denying his own identity. It is exactly what these performances are missing: a personality. On the other hand, he has surely studied seriously just to get most of the notes out. So, mystery person, keep playing, and listen more carefully to those by whom you would be possessed. Listen more deeply, and discover what makes them special.
If this is Rachmaninoff then I bet he was awfully tired, it was the first time he played this etude and was first sight reading, and of course he was playing with his feet.
Is that a joke ? What's the point here ? To upload a video and claim its played by Rachmaninoff. It's obviously not him. An offense to the great pianist who was Rachmaninoff. If he had played this bad, I think he could have killed himself just after ! :p
Its obviously a recording of someone who tries to play something he's learning, and there's still a lot of work to play it correctly.
I'm really dissapointed, I would have loved to hear this piece played by Rachmaninoff.
@Montyleeny14 I don't remember Rach recorded this etude. But this recording is so bad it's obvious some dude posted his horrendous performance and labeled it as Rach's...
Rachmaninoff never recorded this Scriabin etude. Never. This recording falsely attributes to Rachmaninoff, who was a great pianist and would never have approached Scriabin's music in this flibbity-gibbity, wholly mediocre manner, a recording he never made.
Does anyone with musical perception vet these uploads? All comments thus far are from people who, like myself, know perfectly well this is a fake. So why does Youtube broadcast it without following up to see what the poster has to say for him/her self? If that's too much bother for a company with money coming out its preverbial, the whole section of classical video clips should be donated to a reputable library. This trashes Google's integrity, just as if Ebay allowed con-artists.
Rachmaninov never recorded this piece, and if he did it wouldn't be submerged in pedal and weak and colorless sounding as it does here; what kind of scam are you running?
Heheh. maybe his nephew's best friend's brother in law's long lost grandson's name is Rachmaninoff:D:D:D:D. btw there are a lot of background nois. I'm sure when you play it loud enough it will be clear if this is real or not.
poor performance technically. annoying performance musically. the fake name just makes it pathetic. i'll remember the poster of this video. if only the lie in the title could be reported to youtube as inappropriate. i don't want to believe the pianist recorded here posted the video him or herself; i don't want to believe someone who has invested such effort into learning the instrument could have no respect for its masters, no trace of decency.
How dare you post this fake! Rachmaninoff never recorded this étude. This interpretation is utterly boring and attrocious. It's absolutely not Rach's style. AT ALL!!!! At least post a good fake worthy of Rachmaninoff. Please prove for us that this is Rachmaninoff. Where is the recording from? Who are the recording engineers? What piano did he perform on? What year was this recorded in? Please provide us the record label ID and place of production. What do the liner notes say??
@OriginalBasaliskos you are probably right, Maybe people don't want to know why he posted this video under this title. But often it is really simple just to ask, it's often much more simple.
Horrible sound, horrible performance. I can't believe that Rachmaninoff would perform this piece so terribly. Many mistakes, no dynamics and bad tempo. This is actually a student's performance.
@mastropazzo This is, I believe, Scriabin playing his piece, with others listening to the original recording and someone recording their listening (like when people point a camera at a television then post the video). Maybe it was originally for a college class. Rachmaninoff would be proud to have been mistaken for the original.
@Arrowatch thanks for your comment :) but i desagree with you, there's a skriain's performance of this piece and it's very diferent. About Rach playing I think it's not the Rahc's style, not the Rach's cantabile, not the Rach's octave.....NOT THE ENORMOUS RACH'S HANDS (listen to the accords plaied ALWAYS in "arpeggio")....finally I personally think that's a very bad performance, both tecnically and muslically.....sorry for that but tha's what I think. Have a nice day :)
@Arrowatch I doubt Rachmaninov would have been proud to be "mistaken" for this. Rachmaninov always played either with extreme lightness with conservative pedal, or with extreme cantabile with lots of pedal/rubato, and always with a varying of colour. This performance, with its heaviness, lack of direction, and no atmosphere or variety of sound, does not fit Rachmaninov's playing. Also, there is a recording of Scriabin playing this on a piano roll (here on yt), and it sounds nothing like this.
Rachmaninoff suffered a rare disorder which gave him terrible back pains and arthritis in his hands, this is one of the reasons he did not pursue pianism more than he actually did, and it is also why his later recordings suffer quality. However, in the complete recording collection of Rachmaninoff, this is not included, so it might not be Rachmaninoff, I do not know.
I heard pianist and composers though Rachmaninoffs playing of Scriabin was "too thought out" It lacked freedom, the freestyle that Scriabin so wanted to express.
But, that doesn't mean this is Rach. That also doesn't make me stop hoping that there is a shred of something that we haven't found deep inside the earth that Rachmaninoff left for us. We just have to keep digging :).
@ChrisWatch The issue isn't freestyle or anything involving interpretation, it's technical competence. Whoever on this recording can barely play the piano.
I too hope Rachmaninoff recordings will surface in the future. However, it is unrealistic. He didn't concertize much, and died before pirate-recording took off. Maybe private recordings from his close friends?
Would you all snap out of it already. Rach's recordings/interpretations are all horrid so it doesn't matter if this is him or not!! This whole "Rach's god so he couldn't have produced a bad recording" is really quite pathetic. Same exaggerated praise on EVERY recording of EVERY song. No one individual can be the best interpreter of Liszt, Chopin, Bach, Beeth, Scriabin, ect. at once. Yes, he's a legend and a genuis composer, but some of his recording are outplayed by many. Wake up people.
@debussy84, The problem at hand is the fact that this vhorowitz123 is using Rach's name (for his extreme fame) to get people to listen to him. But I do agree with you that there can be no best interpreter of anything, as any artist needs to be a "world by themselves" (as Rubinstein put it). But that's the problem, the fact is that this user is just an imitator, and a very poor one at that. He should be himself when he plays and not anyone else. He should be artistically unique. But he isn't.
Rachmaninoff never recorded this etude and even if I didn't know that I wouldn't have believed this was him - it's labored and poorly played (and horribly overpedalled). Rachmaninoff would have played this magnificently.
If you look in Rachmaninoff recording collections (from amazon, or pretty much anywhere), you won't find this scriabin etude. It's pretty obvious that this pianist is not Rach because Rach never recorded this etude.
it's amazing how these guys sound so certain with no proof. and then if it's somehow proven it actually is rachmaninov they'll convince themselves that they weren't so sure it wasn't just so their egos don't drive them off a bridge.
onus of proof. prove it's rachmaninoff - how did this recording (which has artifacts of the tape recorder being moved around and is not in any way in rachmaninoff's style) escape notice of every biographer and discographer of rachmaninoff?
I will have access to my personal recording of Rachmaninov playing Scriabin. I will upload it as a video response to this...lie. Let your ears decide.
ALSO, the recording horn used to record ALL of Rachmaninov's recordings was very large, and could not be moved easily. I have the entire set of Rachmaninov performances, and NONE of them sound this bad.
i don't know... the pianist here isn't unable to play this fast, he's purposely bringing a new interpretation which very much changes the mood of this piece. and his technique sounds not bad at all, for example at 2:23.
Rachmaninov did that a lot; he would interpret a piece such that it would completely change it's mood. he could've played this piece like 5 different ways.
i'm just saying if you don't have any solid proof against it, don't be 100 percent sure it's not Rachmaninov.
Well that's all in your head you see. This is a sloppy performance even in the sense of the mood. It doesn't flow nearly as well as other Romantic performers would aspire. Rach would probably make a piece like this as interesting, passionate and dramatic as he possibly could, not make it sound as if it were a student practicing it. Why does he roll the second chord in bar 60 when Rachmaninov had hands that could stretch up to a twelfth? It's not interpretation, it's because this person can't.
I don't mean to impose on you though, I'm just saying that from a personal perspective.. I believe that with Rachmaninov's musicianship he would more than likely go for the win, not second best.
Definitely NOT Rachmaninov, I HAVE the recording that he did of Scriabin, and it sounds nothing like this. Also, Rachmaninov has a fast technicality about his playing that this person definitely does not have. Not saying the recording is horrible (Well, the sound quality is), it's just without a doubt NOT a Rachmaninoff...
This most certainly is NOT Sergei Rachmaninoiff playing; he was one of he greatest technicians of all time, and even ona bad day played a thousand times better than this! Who are you kidding?
To all you doubters, this piece was indeed played by Sergio Raquel-Manos.
inazuma3gou 2 months ago
Wait a minute, old time pianist make with tempo fluctuations, hit wrong notes and everything. The interpretation took precedence over everything else. Not how straight someone could play.
SteinwayMan13 2 months ago
En el minuto 2:04 se escucha donde mueven la cámara, una lástima que no pueda subir su imagen y se tenga que hacer pasar por Rachmaninov.
OrlandoRaamon192 2 months ago
Maybe it is his brother, thus explaining the same name and the incredible likeness of their photographs. In that case, you are owed an apology, your playing is pretty good to be fair, though it doesn't touch upon your brother's.
steamednotfried 2 months ago
And who are the 216 (at the moment) morons who actually liked this?!!
snaaptaker 3 months ago
If Rachmaninoff were alive today and heard this, he'd sue you for defamation of talent--that is, if he didn't shoot you first!
snaaptaker 3 months ago
twat
MEpianist 3 months ago
This clown never took his foot off the pedal; Rachmaninoff rarely kept his on.
leongatha6 3 months ago
If your name is really Rachmaninoff, then I am sorry to say that you don't even have one ounce of the talent of your famous namesake...
pianopera 4 months ago
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Fraud...Rachmaninoff could play this better after a liter of vodka, on his death bed, with 1 finger. What an injustice to such a great musician! I own the complete recordings of Rachmaninoff - not surprising this crap isn't on it...
niimae 4 months ago
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niimae 4 months ago
It's ABSOLUTELY NOT RACHMANINOV playing!!!!Take it off, it's inappropriate!
solo874 4 months ago
this is a lie, this is not Rachmaninoff, It's some dud studying
360disc 5 months ago
Rachmaninoff would never have played it this so metronomically, drowning it in pedal, and with such a weak left hand.
HankDrake 6 months ago
@HankDrake You are absolutely correct. My apologies to Sergei for ever associating him with this rendition.
paderuski1 5 months ago
pretty well everyone is worse than him...
paderuski1 6 months ago
This could be Rachmaninoff playing. After Scriabin died, Rachmaninoff went on the road and played concerts containing Scriabin's works. The concerts were not well received and those hearing the music agreed that Rach did not play Scriabin's music the way it was meant to be played. This is certainly true in this case and Scriabin's version is far superior to Rach's. Sad to say, Rachmaninoff (as much as we love him) does not seem to get the point of Scriabin's music.
paderuski1 6 months ago
The reason why people don't like this recording is..
HOROWITZ IS GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
hanbitability 6 months ago
This is probably from a piano roll. I've heard a piano roll of Scriabin playing this himself and it is equally disappointing.
DalokiMauvais 6 months ago
5% of you guys can do it better, and everyone is frkn hating him. of c its not rachmaninoff but at least he can play it , u guys put a video of yourself playing it and then you can judge lol.
1latrommI 6 months ago
@1latrommI we can not play, but we know what is good and what is not
hanbitability 6 months ago
@hanbitability so ur even worse than him
1latrommI 6 months ago
@1latrommI of course I am worse than him... But we are comparing rach VS other pianists, not rach VS me... Aren't you smart enough to know that?
hanbitability 5 months ago
@hanbitability i understand ur point dude. but i think its stupid to say stuff like u guys have said while hes better than you
1latrommI 5 months ago
btw, Sergei's gonna kick your ass when your dead!
TheMrknownothing 6 months ago
you'd have a better chance at personifying me
TheMrknownothing 6 months ago
FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE, PURE BRUTTO, STUDENTELLO CONSERVATORIO CHE REGISTRA CON IL MINIDISC.VUOLE IMITARE HOROWITZ
MrALCOTTS 6 months ago
That sounds like a player piano that needs servicing !
Symphonicprelude 7 months ago
someone clearly has an ego issue.
IHARVWD 7 months ago
Not Rachmaninoff.
Daniel
DanielM647 7 months ago
And what's with the last chords? They are played as arpeggio and we all know Rachmaninoff could reach even a 12. Next time search for RACHMANINOFF's biography and then make a joke like this.
NewRachmaninoff 7 months ago
Not even above average piano playing.Clueless as is this post.The phrasing has no breadth no sense of tension and repose.This isnt even a graduate 's worth of playing.
lovesGenet 7 months ago
Ha ha.You thought that we are some circus monkeys that are easy to lie. I assure you that you will lose your account because of this frauda. Rachmaninoff is legendary for his tone and technique and he could be recognized easily. This metronome-like performance has no emotions, dynamics and phrasing, only a bunch of notes. Look at Horowitz to see a true performance though the triplets near the end are without control. Play like them. Then you can name yourself baby Horowitz or baby Rachmaninoff.
NewRachmaninoff 7 months ago
a really disgusting effort...
paulinaluc 8 months ago
I didn't think it was that bad. I certainly couldn't do better.
blaxors 8 months ago
@blaxors I can! ;P
Hicksbosone 8 months ago
rachmaninoff looks pretty upset in the video about this as well
raphberry 8 months ago
Interesting that the poster/performer calls himself "Horowitz" and plays as "Rachmaninoff", denying his own identity. It is exactly what these performances are missing: a personality. On the other hand, he has surely studied seriously just to get most of the notes out. So, mystery person, keep playing, and listen more carefully to those by whom you would be possessed. Listen more deeply, and discover what makes them special.
ekphooldomali 9 months ago in playlist Wlasna
If this is Rachmaninoff then I bet he was awfully tired, it was the first time he played this etude and was first sight reading, and of course he was playing with his feet.
@ debussy84 -.- ...
Scarbogn 9 months ago
Hello,
Is that a joke ? What's the point here ? To upload a video and claim its played by Rachmaninoff. It's obviously not him. An offense to the great pianist who was Rachmaninoff. If he had played this bad, I think he could have killed himself just after ! :p
Its obviously a recording of someone who tries to play something he's learning, and there's still a lot of work to play it correctly.
I'm really dissapointed, I would have loved to hear this piece played by Rachmaninoff.
W.
wilou62 9 months ago
pfft not rachmaninov!!
scottamgreig 9 months ago
Not Rachmaninov! This sounds like Maksim trying and failing, again
mgbrad3388 9 months ago 2
this is why the video uploader should die right now, certainly. thumbs up if you agree.
ne0sn1ff3r 9 months ago 7
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paderuski1 3 months ago
What an excellent interpretation by Rachmaninoff! I didn't know the composer also played some Scriabin. :-)
Montyleeny14 9 months ago
@Montyleeny14 fail
FlyingBlackAndWhite 9 months ago
@FlyingBlackAndWhite Fail? How?
Montyleeny14 9 months ago
@Montyleeny14 rachminov doesnt play like this....
FlyingBlackAndWhite 9 months ago
@Montyleeny14 I don't remember Rach recorded this etude. But this recording is so bad it's obvious some dude posted his horrendous performance and labeled it as Rach's...
Laudan08 9 months ago
Oh my.... this was a torture horror movie. Remove this video.
toomuchmoretolearn 9 months ago
this is completely awful.
iLikeChoklit 10 months ago
Rachmaninoff never recorded this Scriabin etude. Never. This recording falsely attributes to Rachmaninoff, who was a great pianist and would never have approached Scriabin's music in this flibbity-gibbity, wholly mediocre manner, a recording he never made.
guirlandes3 10 months ago
is this really rachmaninoff!??! i don't believe!!
nocturne217 10 months ago
is this really rachmaninoff!! i don't believe!!
nocturne217 10 months ago
@nocturne217 No, it most certainly is NOT Rachmaninoff playing. He never recorded this etude.
guirlandes3 10 months ago
...well, in all fairness this might be 'a' Rachmaninoff playing - but certainly not the Rachmaninoff in the picture...
RTAllwin 11 months ago
Yeah...no way the audio would have been this clear in Rach's time.
With that being said, maybe the fellow was misinformed? It's possible.
keetner 11 months ago
This recording doesn't even come close to the artistry of Rachmaninoff. Get it off here
myccream 11 months ago
Does anyone with musical perception vet these uploads? All comments thus far are from people who, like myself, know perfectly well this is a fake. So why does Youtube broadcast it without following up to see what the poster has to say for him/her self? If that's too much bother for a company with money coming out its preverbial, the whole section of classical video clips should be donated to a reputable library. This trashes Google's integrity, just as if Ebay allowed con-artists.
lewbretz 11 months ago
ISN'T THERE SOME WAY TO CLOSE THIS CHANNEL DOWN BY GOING TO YT? THIS IS A SICK JOKE THIS PERSON IS PLAYING ON US!
Bret6464 11 months ago
It's Strauss playing Bruckner's organ
nonnopirro52 11 months ago
The poster never stated this was SERGEI Rachmaninoff. More probably, it's Louie Rachmaninoff.
gmmix 1 year ago
definitely a fake. this is an offense to rachmaninoff.
arqweryon 1 year ago
Rachmaninov never recorded this piece, and if he did it wouldn't be submerged in pedal and weak and colorless sounding as it does here; what kind of scam are you running?
billyguns2 1 year ago
"A crackhead that thinks he's Rahmaninov plays Scriabin"
Now it's fixed.
Mosotti 1 year ago 9
HAHAhaa you can hear the clock clicking in the background. it's funny how people actually think this is Rachmanioff playing..
bilibalala 1 year ago
Heheh. maybe his nephew's best friend's brother in law's long lost grandson's name is Rachmaninoff:D:D:D:D. btw there are a lot of background nois. I'm sure when you play it loud enough it will be clear if this is real or not.
Ianthe22 1 year ago
Rachmaninov never recorded this song.
AegisDurth 1 year ago
this is the step brother of rachmaninovs sons cousin^^
Jazzbob889 1 year ago
@Jazzbob889 no its actually that guy's nephew's best friend's brother in law's long lost grandson
ryider 1 year ago
@ryider
I like that.
TheKeenanBoy 1 year ago
If he is Rachmaninoff, then I play better than him :)
Fake!
planmix 1 year ago
Youtube's entire Rachmaninoff/Scriabin fanbase just got trolled hard
Pianoplayer002 1 year ago 2
This is NOT Rachmaninoff!
PsanterShelZahav 1 year ago
we can hear your clock ticking in the background. this is terrible quality.
ossiacadenza1 1 year ago
Duvide-o-dó que seja Rachmaninoff tocando!!!
Nem aqui e nem na China!
Delírio de quem postou.
NelsonPinheirojr 1 year ago
The worst part was from 0:00 to 2:46 !
The55555SSSSS 1 year ago 16
Fake!!!!
Vierdank 1 year ago 2
Fake!!!!!
Vierdank 1 year ago 2
poor performance technically. annoying performance musically. the fake name just makes it pathetic. i'll remember the poster of this video. if only the lie in the title could be reported to youtube as inappropriate. i don't want to believe the pianist recorded here posted the video him or herself; i don't want to believe someone who has invested such effort into learning the instrument could have no respect for its masters, no trace of decency.
lslo 1 year ago
How dare you post this fake! Rachmaninoff never recorded this étude. This interpretation is utterly boring and attrocious. It's absolutely not Rach's style. AT ALL!!!! At least post a good fake worthy of Rachmaninoff. Please prove for us that this is Rachmaninoff. Where is the recording from? Who are the recording engineers? What piano did he perform on? What year was this recorded in? Please provide us the record label ID and place of production. What do the liner notes say??
Chopin1974l 1 year ago
Darn you! I was actually excited for the second..
IssacAndSophie 1 year ago
Why do nasty things? I just don't understand. Any profit? Any aim achieved?
busashka 1 year ago
Rachmaninoff played this etude but NEVER recorded it ... !!
kaidaniev 1 year ago
You disgrace Rachmaninoff with this travesty. You, sir, should be ashamed.
ShinatoKawasaki 1 year ago
Everything Rachmaninoff recorded is known. He did not record this piece. It is also known he did not record live.
nestorar 1 year ago
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Boring! You can't fool us!
cynic150 1 year ago
Instead of accusing why not try and ask him if he can backup that this is Rachmaninoff.
Ianthe22 1 year ago
@Ianthe22 There's no point; the quality of the recording is too good.
OriginalBasaliskos 1 year ago
@OriginalBasaliskos you are probably right, Maybe people don't want to know why he posted this video under this title. But often it is really simple just to ask, it's often much more simple.
Ianthe22 1 year ago
Not Rachmaninoff! Someone else
lilytoka 1 year ago
wtf
camileludwig 1 year ago
This is Not Rachmaninoff. The quality of recording in his times was completely different.
MarianneAlkonost 1 year ago
IDK. I think this sounds like scriabin in a very mental level. I think this is absolutely a worthy interpretation.
ChrisWatch 1 year ago
Guys all you have to do is flag this fraud's video. Action is much larger than words.
nDNrMatt2 1 year ago 2
Aaaaaand DISLIKE.
Nexodaedalus 1 year ago
Sounds like the player didn't take his feet from the pedal, totally drunk... :-D
loslunes 1 year ago
Maybe his name is really Rachmaninoff and he really does look like that guy in the picture.
Therachh3 1 year ago 7
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This is NOT Rachmaninov. He NEVER recorded this piece. Please delete this video!
nematodex 1 year ago
This is NOT Rachmaninov. He NEVER recorded this piece. Please delete this piece!
nematodex 1 year ago 4
You suck, badly.
99hoolio 1 year ago
Ok.. Maybe flaging this for disgusting content was a little over the top.. Then again, trying to impersonate the brilliance of Rachy.. ahhh! GFTO!!
Reubunderfull 1 year ago
You should be Ashamed of Yourself for this Disgusting Insult to Rachmaninoff.
Withergarde 1 year ago
It doesn't sound as a Rachmaninoff recording.
t0nk0n 1 year ago
Horrible sound, horrible performance. I can't believe that Rachmaninoff would perform this piece so terribly. Many mistakes, no dynamics and bad tempo. This is actually a student's performance.
GermanoDeppe 1 year ago
flag the video. go to spam>misleading text
AjaPuppy 1 year ago
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this is shit and you are shit
iamthebirdman888 1 year ago
This is evidence of Rachmaninoff's genius as not just a composer but as a pianist as well!
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
FLAG THE VIDEO, UNDER THE "VIEWS"
filopaa1990 1 year ago
somebody get this guy banned !! must be a way to take down this channel !!! sad travesty using Rach's name, sicko !!!
36beachbum 1 year ago
VERY poor to try to give us that as Rach, this is a bad recording on a music school show.
Ala13ManOWar 1 year ago
Obviously not Rachmaninoff, but give him credit for being to able to manage this piece however shakily
katalindre 1 year ago
rachmaninoff could reach a thirteenth, so he would be able to hit the last two chords whole. NOT RACH
nmbanana 1 year ago
Geez I can hear sum1 breathing heavily
I'm pretty sure Rachmaninoff doesn't do that when he's playing
sackwhacker 1 year ago
what a disaster and what a waste of everyone's time. please remove this amateur rubbish
argerichaholic 1 year ago
If Rachmaninoff played this, his performance would outclass everyone else
sackwhacker 1 year ago
@sackwhacker I don't see why....
rustyspo0ns 1 year ago
fake :-)
kyrieeleison203 1 year ago
you offend the Rachmaninoff's name with this video, I would like to ask you to remove it. Be kind....to Rachmaninoff
mastropazzo 1 year ago 54
@mastropazzo This is, I believe, Scriabin playing his piece, with others listening to the original recording and someone recording their listening (like when people point a camera at a television then post the video). Maybe it was originally for a college class. Rachmaninoff would be proud to have been mistaken for the original.
Arrowatch 1 year ago
@Arrowatch thanks for your comment :) but i desagree with you, there's a skriain's performance of this piece and it's very diferent. About Rach playing I think it's not the Rahc's style, not the Rach's cantabile, not the Rach's octave.....NOT THE ENORMOUS RACH'S HANDS (listen to the accords plaied ALWAYS in "arpeggio")....finally I personally think that's a very bad performance, both tecnically and muslically.....sorry for that but tha's what I think. Have a nice day :)
mastropazzo 1 year ago
@Arrowatch I doubt Rachmaninov would have been proud to be "mistaken" for this. Rachmaninov always played either with extreme lightness with conservative pedal, or with extreme cantabile with lots of pedal/rubato, and always with a varying of colour. This performance, with its heaviness, lack of direction, and no atmosphere or variety of sound, does not fit Rachmaninov's playing. Also, there is a recording of Scriabin playing this on a piano roll (here on yt), and it sounds nothing like this.
themindandmusic 1 year ago
this is 100% a fake! After 2 seconds everything is already clear.
mikous100 1 year ago 3
On my opinion this is NOT Rachmaninoff !
musaabuhilu 1 year ago 3
Rachmaninoff suffered a rare disorder which gave him terrible back pains and arthritis in his hands, this is one of the reasons he did not pursue pianism more than he actually did, and it is also why his later recordings suffer quality. However, in the complete recording collection of Rachmaninoff, this is not included, so it might not be Rachmaninoff, I do not know.
JohnEBPiano 1 year ago
@JohnEBPiano you mean Malfran syndrome?
Martel211996 1 year ago
I heard pianist and composers though Rachmaninoffs playing of Scriabin was "too thought out" It lacked freedom, the freestyle that Scriabin so wanted to express.
But, that doesn't mean this is Rach. That also doesn't make me stop hoping that there is a shred of something that we haven't found deep inside the earth that Rachmaninoff left for us. We just have to keep digging :).
ChrisWatch 1 year ago
@ChrisWatch The issue isn't freestyle or anything involving interpretation, it's technical competence. Whoever on this recording can barely play the piano.
I too hope Rachmaninoff recordings will surface in the future. However, it is unrealistic. He didn't concertize much, and died before pirate-recording took off. Maybe private recordings from his close friends?
demosj 1 year ago
Fake!
goodmanmusica 1 year ago 3
good
lily32157 1 year ago
Rachmaninoff would had destroyed the tape. Definitively, is not him, except drunked.
jignacioromano 1 year ago 2
THIS IS A SICK JOKE!
36beachbum 1 year ago
it soundes kindof sad though.
skashby1 1 year ago
I think it's kind of a funny prank actually, anyone would know this isn't rachmaninoff ...
ccdrz 1 year ago
I think is not Rachmaninov, but even so is not that bad version. But it is bad to say that is Rachmaninov playing.
erictellez 1 year ago 2
Oops, seems like someone was touching the microphone of your recorder while you were playing... What a pity...
vivvpprof 1 year ago 2
Would you all snap out of it already. Rach's recordings/interpretations are all horrid so it doesn't matter if this is him or not!! This whole "Rach's god so he couldn't have produced a bad recording" is really quite pathetic. Same exaggerated praise on EVERY recording of EVERY song. No one individual can be the best interpreter of Liszt, Chopin, Bach, Beeth, Scriabin, ect. at once. Yes, he's a legend and a genuis composer, but some of his recording are outplayed by many. Wake up people.
debussy84 1 year ago
@debussy84, The problem at hand is the fact that this vhorowitz123 is using Rach's name (for his extreme fame) to get people to listen to him. But I do agree with you that there can be no best interpreter of anything, as any artist needs to be a "world by themselves" (as Rubinstein put it). But that's the problem, the fact is that this user is just an imitator, and a very poor one at that. He should be himself when he plays and not anyone else. He should be artistically unique. But he isn't.
advisorC101 1 year ago
Rachmaninoff never recorded this etude and even if I didn't know that I wouldn't have believed this was him - it's labored and poorly played (and horribly overpedalled). Rachmaninoff would have played this magnificently.
troppofiato 2 years ago
If you look in Rachmaninoff recording collections (from amazon, or pretty much anywhere), you won't find this scriabin etude. It's pretty obvious that this pianist is not Rach because Rach never recorded this etude.
thiswastoogood 2 years ago
how do you know?
gzaenker 2 years ago
@gzaenker google "rachmaninoff complete recordings"
and see if you can find that etude. This isn't a sufficient proof, but it's evidence.
thiswastoogood 2 years ago
@thiswastoogood i agree.
predoje 2 years ago
Whose the pianist then ?
mikejunior80 2 years ago
Nowadays I wish I could play this well but this is in no way Rachmaninoff on his worst day 1/2 waisted on Vodka, if he did such!!!!
hilocomtoot 2 years ago
F*CK this
michielroosen 2 years ago
Is he really Rachmaninoff???
planmix 2 years ago
vhorowitz123 is the gayest user on youtube. and if you really are gay and truly are the gayest on youtube, may the gay-gods delete this video.
ReturnOfTheStienway 2 years ago
This is a fraud. It's not Rach. Could someone please remove this?
123mortimer456 2 years ago 2
Who is? Joseph Racmaninoff? Robert Rachmaninoff? Mary Rachmaninoff? Obviously not Sergei Rachmaninoff
ClauGriggio 2 years ago 4
THIS IS NOT RACHMANINOFF.
ggn1234 2 years ago 3
i saw what you did here. :)
kasyapa 2 years ago 3
This has been flagged as spam show
it's amazing how these guys sound so certain with no proof. and then if it's somehow proven it actually is rachmaninov they'll convince themselves that they weren't so sure it wasn't just so their egos don't drive them off a bridge.
ibclappin 2 years ago
onus of proof. prove it's rachmaninoff - how did this recording (which has artifacts of the tape recorder being moved around and is not in any way in rachmaninoff's style) escape notice of every biographer and discographer of rachmaninoff?
kasyapa 2 years ago
I will have access to my personal recording of Rachmaninov playing Scriabin. I will upload it as a video response to this...lie. Let your ears decide.
ALSO, the recording horn used to record ALL of Rachmaninov's recordings was very large, and could not be moved easily. I have the entire set of Rachmaninov performances, and NONE of them sound this bad.
Animefreak76 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
You people upset with this are just ridiculous.
oelefante 2 years ago
Well it surely isnt rachmaninoff, But..whoever this is:P hes got it:D
MrToulis93 2 years ago
i don't know... the pianist here isn't unable to play this fast, he's purposely bringing a new interpretation which very much changes the mood of this piece. and his technique sounds not bad at all, for example at 2:23.
Rachmaninov did that a lot; he would interpret a piece such that it would completely change it's mood. he could've played this piece like 5 different ways.
i'm just saying if you don't have any solid proof against it, don't be 100 percent sure it's not Rachmaninov.
ibclappin 2 years ago
Well that's all in your head you see. This is a sloppy performance even in the sense of the mood. It doesn't flow nearly as well as other Romantic performers would aspire. Rach would probably make a piece like this as interesting, passionate and dramatic as he possibly could, not make it sound as if it were a student practicing it. Why does he roll the second chord in bar 60 when Rachmaninov had hands that could stretch up to a twelfth? It's not interpretation, it's because this person can't.
advisorC101 2 years ago
I don't mean to impose on you though, I'm just saying that from a personal perspective.. I believe that with Rachmaninov's musicianship he would more than likely go for the win, not second best.
advisorC101 2 years ago
????????????????
DEEZA95 2 years ago
Definitely NOT Rachmaninov, I HAVE the recording that he did of Scriabin, and it sounds nothing like this. Also, Rachmaninov has a fast technicality about his playing that this person definitely does not have. Not saying the recording is horrible (Well, the sound quality is), it's just without a doubt NOT a Rachmaninoff...
Animefreak76 2 years ago
This most certainly is NOT Sergei Rachmaninoiff playing; he was one of he greatest technicians of all time, and even ona bad day played a thousand times better than this! Who are you kidding?
billyguns2 2 years ago
Not even totally drunk had he played this way...
loslunes 2 years ago 3
not rachmaninov
splattyzaks 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
THIS IS NOT RACH.
tfgoingwest 2 years ago 51
This comment has received too many negative votes show
IT IS REALLY SERGEY VASILYEVICH RACHMANINOV
Those who think another is wrong!!!
и не надо пиздеть, уроды нерусские, блин))
FXMasterr 2 years ago
You're completely delusional if you think Rachmaninov would play this badly.
advisorC101 2 years ago 2
NO, I feel the vibritions of Rachmaninov - because I speak trully.
FXMasterr 2 years ago
You have no idea what you're talking about.
advisorC101 2 years ago
Some "urody" may speak both English and Russian, please no racism on YT.
romotchka 2 years ago