Dobson accuses Obama of 'distorting' Bible

[Buddhuzlefthandman]

Obama is rational enough to look at the bullshit detector and notice when the needle is in the red (unlike Dr. Dobson).

[Pjaynes781]

@jrsampson2000 Huh? A mythological character? LOL, there's more written history proving that Jeus lived than there is Ceasar. You dont have to accept Christ as God but, seriously dude, do some homework, you're totally wrong.

[LifterwiII]

What James Dobson is doing is HOPEFULLY insuring the marginalization of these Fundamenatlist bastards .. and the removal of their tax exempt status. WHEN was this country owned and run by Fundamentalists?

[WickedYugo]

where do you read this crap...?!?!? Religion was never about love it's about Hate!!!

Just look at the vatican. You think that's what your Yeshua and/or/if Jesus or whatever meant..?? For them to drink from golden cups while people starve.?? so don't mix your religious BS with politics please...

[orlsev]

Jesus Christ didn't take away anyone's wealth to give it to the poor so the government should be doing that either.

[8246371950]

Yeshua is all about Love and Righteous and Peace. He was not a socialist..

[DCussen]

Dobson couldn't be more right. 

[tracyloveridge]

Believers... quit arguing & start praying for God's will. It's time for everyone to stop condemning one another. These hateful remarks are just more proof that nations fight over politics &religion.... and for what? Is it doing any good? Dr. Dobson is a very caring & knowledgeable man ..... if you don't agree, so be it .... if you do agree, so be it. But if you don't agree with each other, what is the point of arguing?? You are doing nobody any good!

[CircleCityEric]

James Dobson would do the world a fantastic favor if he either quit preaching, broadcasting and writing altogether - or changed his material to get behind the same people he's loaded up his bank account(s) by condemning. He's racist, immature, full of himself, blind in the mind & heart and in desperate need of true salvation. The sooner he and his flock of vultures accept this, the sooner we ALL get well. Spread the word today!

[Sc0ttPrian]

how many people here remember when they were born? if i was killed when i was born i don't think i would have suffered one minute. in fact i wouldn't be here typing this and no one would wonder where i was because im absolutely nothing to everyone reading this.

[Zickefoose]

@Sc0ttPrian Yes, because you don't ' Remember " pain means it doesnt exist. This has got to be the worst toll I have seen anyone try to use to ok abortion. I am not against it being legal. If someone wants to commit murder, then its no different than someone choosing to do it later on in there life. Regardless, your not supposed to kill your fellow brothers and sisters ( We all are )... id think living with the fact I killed my child would be punishment enough. Not to mention the eternal part.

[bluebyte101]

THEY ALWAYS BRING UP THE CONSTITUTION, why is it so important when it is so outdated. Obama is the best thing that has happened to America. What the bible says it just that, you cannot take it out of context, theists are constantly talking in metephor for the sole purpose that it is indirect and unclear. All Obama is doing it clearing out the shit and and building a newer better America!

[MelodiousMusician]

@bluebyte101 Have you read the Constitution? It ensures that you have the right to come on here and spout off that you wish those rights would disappear. It tells you that you have the rights to free speech, owning weapons, freedom from unlawful searches and seizures, trial by your peers, right to not be a slave, right to vote regardless of color or gender, etc. What is so outdated about that?

[cldstrcrft]

@MelodiousMusician

The constitution itself is practically useless as a guide, but the legislative, executive, and judicial precedent indirectly stemming from the constitution make for a very strong governmental system.

[MelodiousMusician]

@cldstrcrft So, your rights are "useless?" Your statement would indicate to me that you share the philosophy "Everything's relative."

This is why our country is where it is. Why is it that, when things get tough, people immediately suggest we move farther from our roots? Hasn't anyone noticed, yet, that the farther we get from our foundation, the worse off we are?

[cldstrcrft]

@MelodiousMusician

You've misunderstood my statement. The United States is a great nation. We have a strong set of rights, a powerful economy, and a well established governmental system. My argument is that the constitution is too vague to be of any practical use. It is the longing legislative, executive, and judicial precedents that form our rights and governmental system.

As far as our roots, I disagree: the U.S. is the best it has ever been. It is certainly better than it was in 1776.

[MelodiousMusician]

@cldstrcrft In regards to what? People have no morals anymore, and, compared to the character of people in 1776, the population today is erroneous. Sad to say, but true.

[cldstrcrft]

@MelodiousMusician

In 1776, ~2/5 of our country's populace desired to still be part of the British Empire. In 1776, slavery was still widespread. In 1776, woman couldn't vote. In 1776, disease was widespread, the average lifespan was low, the national economy was trash, the federal government was nearly non-existent, the states activities were poorly coordinated, natives were purposefully massacred, theft and murder were widespread, drunkards swarmed in cities.

1776 wasn't a good year.

[MelodiousMusician]

@cldstrcrft In all honesty, may I ask where you are getting your information from? Also, in terms of morality, the people of 1776 were better off--slavery aside--as many back then were Christians. In fact, did you know that most slaves took their owners names because they were treated like family? This info came from a man who is descended directly from a slave family. He says that the whites of that time are made to look like tyrants. The few instances of cruelty there were are exploited.

[cldstrcrft]

@MelodiousMusician

Mostly from AP US history and A People's History of the United States. Which claims are you disputing?

Christianity is not equal to morality.  A *vast* majority of medieval Europe was Christian, but their society was as cesspool.

Even if you found examples of slaves who enjoyed their work, that doesn't make the practice of slavery less deplorable. Ownership of a human being is morally horrific.

Tell me: what do you think is wrong with our society? (Specifics please)

[MelodiousMusician]

@cldstrcrft I agree with you on that. Although, though many of the Medieval Europeans claimed "Christianity", it was actually Catholicism.

I also agree that slavery is deplorable, and thank God that it was abolished. I merely believe that those of our Founding Fathers' day are made to look evil to discredit them.

Our society? We are descending into socialism--into communism, really--and all of the things that have made America the greatest country in the world are being changed.

[cldstrcrft]

@MelodiousMusician

Catholics are still Christians. If anything, Catholic moral standards are more rigorous than protestant standards. I don't see why you think Christianity should make a society more moral. If anything, the permissive nature of christianity should make people less moral.

1. Why is socialism morally bad? It's an extremely Christian idea.

2. What do you think made America great? And how are these things being changed?

[crhoads62]

@cldstrcrft if you lived your whole life and on the last day you sinned, guess what? you are going to hell! your catholic teaching is contrary to that isn't it. it is grace that saves not works. the standard is perfection. not some moral code by a church or anyone else. if you are standing before GOD (the judge) without the mighty counselor (Jesus) you will be found guilty. the scale of justice will not be your good deed and your sins weighed out. it is a full pardon or nothing.

[cldstrcrft]

Catholicism teaches that someone who sinned only once (on the last day of his life), WOULD go to hell. Catholicism is salvation by grace. Try reading about the ideology that you critique before opening your mouth.

Also: I'm not a catholic.

[crhoads62]

@MelodiousMusician several issues pushed the founders to declaring independence from england. they wanted to end slavery...and england said no. that was the deciding factor. catholics are not christians. catholics at one time murdered christians or people of "the way. catholics use to have bible burning right here in America! they did not want catholics to read the bible. that was a long standing rule. i have over 100 books on this issue dating back over 300 yrs. never referred to as christians

[cldstrcrft]

@crhoads62

You seriously think that the desire to end slavery was the deciding factor in declaring independence? Source please.

[MelodiousMusician]

@crhoads62 Um.  Have you written the wrong person? Hehe I never said that Catholics were Christians. In fact, I believe that I said the opposite. I used to be a Catholic, but am now a Christian by the grace of Jesus Christ my Savior.

Yes, Christians did want to end slavery, but they also wanted freedom to practice their Christian beliefs without the government regulating their worship.

[crhoads62]

@cldstrcrft ending slavery was the deciding factor in declaring our independence as england would not allow it. women were allow to vote. a few served in the war and collected a pension like the men. slavery would have ended sooner but the democrats would not have it. many ex slaves owned more slaves then whites ever did. democrats resisted civil rights right up to 1964. the democrats left the building long ago and were replaced by socialist/ communist along with everything else they infiltrated

[cldstrcrft]

Why are you talking about democrats? The politics are completely irrelevant to my point.

Abolishing slavery wasn't even mentioned in the declaration of independence. Jefferson (most hypocritically) wanted to include a clause about slavery, but the reference was eliminated.

Women were allowed to vote? Oh really? I guess women's suffrage was a complete waste of time. Source please.

You think we are socialists? Oh please.

[crhoads62]

@cldstrcrft it is the nearly the most perfect document ever written! read the communist goals of 1963 and you will know what has screwed this country up!

hell you likely a socialist your dam self !

[cldstrcrft]

You *must* be a satirist, because no real person could be such a perfect representation of ultraconservative paranoia.

I'm no socialist, but consider this: Jesus was. Try actually reading your bible, Jesus was socialist as can be.

[MelodiousMusician]

@cldstrcrft I'm sorry, but that's what you said to me, and you still can't tell me why Jesus was a socialist. Give me a verse where He tells us to do something that is a socialistic policy.

[cldstrcrft]

@MelodiousMusician

Jesus argues against the nuclear family, requiring communal living under God

Luke 14:26

Jesus constantly urges the rich to rid themselves of material wealth, requires that people feed the poor, and sacrifices himself for his fellow man.

Rich man cannot enter heaven: Matthew 19:24.

Jesus was (obviously) not a socialist as we now conceive of socialists, but he adhered to a fundamentally socialist message.

[crhoads62]

@bluebyte101 obama is the worst thing to ever happen to America! the constitution will never be out dated! i want my rights to remain in the hands of GOD! he will never take away my rights! if you want to live in a socialist country, move to china! or cuba!

[DrivenMind]

Dobson accuses Obama of "distorting" the bible.

I accuse the bible of distorting reality.

[crhoads62]

@DrivenMind  I DON'T THINK JESUS DISTORTED THE HELL YOU WILL BE EXPERIENCING!

[GWsMysteria]

Dobson is a blind old fool who wants to force his own beliefs on others and can't respect others' personal beliefs as Obama is proving he does. So anyone downing Obama is simply wishing to force their way of thinking on everyone within the US and that does indeed go against our Constitution.

[delpha3110]

tell yuor navy blue and white stripepd nigegr to coem to clifton orad and gte his white v.d sex offender,and see if your a biriths nigger or a dead paedophlic r[aits sex offender.one hour nigger,same as the african ganyan scum,white trash,dotn knwo you juts know what you do ,filthy nigger big nigfegrs airtn you with your white master`s.

everyoen ready as nigegr killing is immnat

[Mutedvox]

dobson is a joke......god says so!!!

[delpha3110]

same old debora,cheap talk big acting ,when it comes to

wankers

[delpha3110]

kenya as mentioned in yoru system is a the players code,thsi si what si know as solutionism,sacreligous ritual evenst inclsuing posession ect rpae gay orgiest,ad the list goes on,gay possesion is use din voodoo as used by gordon brown and his afrcian 10a# beats women of india and afrcia,they attack the aryan race claimming that we are superior ,they imatate the aryan and posses after the 4th in numbers ,the possesion si then raped

[delpha3110]

ok firstly im in the same situation as obam on that frount almost,i dont call his mum a whore,i dotn know her,and his ftaehr was unfiathful thats personal.i dotn do personal to that extreme,if he shat on em liek that he would get it back so leave that,factual is that you mentioned the bible i dotn do bible ,there is one Torah,no bible its sacreligous,KENYA as you mentioned it is fererence to the KEN ya of witchcarft fo the atta whore not an afrcian country,thanks

[delpha3110]

@delpha3110 queen step down and gioev me my throne or stop you tube form preventing em from tleling the truth of the war criems and racila war being fort against the aryan races by afcrian socialist and honeky maossn of rosetta

[deborah00934]

Gotta love Dr. Dobson. I cannot beleive that the newscasters ignored Doctor Dobson's title. I think Obama is the filled the spirit of the AntiChrist, and that his so called "moral" compass is skewed.

[delpha3110]

@deborah00934 dont send me messages if i cnat repsond im barred by the briths goevrmtn form using you tube or any other sa swar crimes of them the govermtn and rpae in satanic form,and its hard to post comments,doubt if thsi will get through ,tis a criminal offence ,and shit is he talking the piss otu of my toruture today on bbc 1900 bst.

[delpha3110]

@delpha3110 ,obama today sigend a dela to cause suffering on irna as the UN did in iraq ,with unjustifiable reaosn for sanctions,for exmaple oil had nothing to do with NBC wepaons on any level.yet russia done thsi for obama,what a weak russian state.thsi will not only cuase suffering by fuel shortagesa nd frezze the chidlren and women whom are protected under the genva convention for human rights vialations

[delpha3110]

@deborah00934 the possesion is actually hindi ro afcrain impersoanting a white aryan ,jinns,the possesion can take contorl of the gap in the body afetr th 4th,and is female and an ass or anal sex,thsi is the atta whore of which you speak.

the posseion can give impression of gay male same probabally for female,and is diffrent from the other half of solutionist gay orgisets of child ritual abuse,hey you called me its all relevent.voda rape elephantis barbarella arabella ect,police masons

[mbernal41]

you idiots try to make arguments with empty words. do any of you even know what you are trying to say?

[tomestubbs]

Why does this Dobson clown have so much power? He has his filthy sadomasochistic hands in everything.

[delpha3110]

has obama got a pigs willy on his head,wouldnt we see this so called marking of the beast.hye why do christain have different evrsions when they are menat to sue the only torah.its the hwore book isnt it .liek the collapse the 7 then 4 becoems the whore and the beast 271 is the numebr of the beast in the desert.kah ply pyth ,no i wont put up with it filthy whore,god shes a bitch don .the towers are in the desert tlike theyve got one mind all the same like twins kwow where she gets it from.

[deborah00934]

@delpha3110 The whore is Obama's mother she was not married to his father at the time of his birth because his father was already married. If you look at the accent maps you will see that area that is described in the bible is Kenya exactly where Obama hails from.

[delpha3110]

@deborah00934 oh and another thing debs,if i saw you today ,grr but enermy never the least,it sint true that YHWY wont take chidlren of parents of what you discribe as sin,i know this perosnally,agaion the church oncfusses thinsg for tis own gain or other.nice motor,shame about yuor team,now ive got problem with brown and his mocking of my war crimes9those c0ommited aginst em under hsi regiume)

[delpha3110]

@delpha3110 islam will rise aginst the stes as it planns its invasion of iran.suing the pro maierican iraqi govermtn for a launch pad,that will elad to term oil in islamic countires as a vilation unjustified in the quran.then the islamic forces will agther and lietrally this tiem burn the yanks in there tanks,the yanks oculdnt stand 4000 dead perosnell invading iran will in the hundreds then millions mthe americna public have no stomach as thye have proven for war

[delpha3110]

@delpha3110 the sanctions forced by the west and russia,for an paranoid premedated american congress,is a humilating disatser,it will elad to tow corses either the cia will again with russia and britna try to oevr throw the iran elected govermtn as thye did not so long ago,or it will elad to war,that ameirca wont have as easy ride as they did in iraq,and they will be surrounded by enermeis on all sides

[goodgirlable1]

judaism is disgusting racist guttle full of genocidal "commandments", that socalled old testament is nothing but jewish mein kampf

[christofu92]

@goodgirlable1 you need to calm yourself and realize that you're a racist bigoted idiot who has a very twisted worldview.

[Nucc3]

Dobson is RIGHT ON. Obama is off his rocker. His comment on abortion is self defeating because if abortions can't be ruled out because not everybody agrees then WHAT about his healthcare program?

[TheRationalthinker]

Video worth watching: America is NOT a Christian Nation: TRUE or FALSE?

[deborah00934]

@TheRationalthinker We are a Christian nation, Obama is a MUSLIM making him biased.

[Rockymtntruth]

James Dobson has a major problem with a lust for power. He seriously wants power and control. He's got a big problem. Thank God the American people are finally waking up to the truth about this tyrant.

[Rockymtntruth]

The American public is getting incredibly sick and tired of these hillbilly Evangelical leaders telling everyone how to believe and trying to control them through imposing arcane and extremist religious legalism into the American system. The gay community has given the religious right extremists a major heart burn. Thank God mainline Christians don't tend to go for Dobson's rhetoric and dogma.

[wk2094]

yes American are incredibly sick - read roman 1verses 21 to 32. God have given you up to uncleanness thru' the lusts of your hearts, to dishonor your own bodies between themselves...

Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand, repent ye and believe the gospel.

[CircleCityEric]

@wk2094 There you go, taking that overexposed portion of a bigger letter and using it as a weapon to condemn millions. Are you sure you're a Christion? A child of God? A true believer would take it all back while there's still time.

[Rockymtntruth]

Dobson's Pharisaical approach to the Bible has been very destructive to many people both Christian and non-Christian. The simplistic way in which owchywawa states "you don't like him because he believes the Bible; not or any logical reasons." is pure bullshit.

[Rockymtntruth]

Who gives a flying shit what the Great Grand Wizard James Dobson of Focus on the Fallacy says about Obama? Dobson the dumbass has seen his days. He's falling into irrelevancy.

[owchywawa]

What he says is true. You just don't like him because he believes the Bible; not for any logical reasons.

[Rockymtntruth]

owchywawa, I believe the teachings of Jesus. Every Christian sect whether great or small picks and chooses what they focus on and interpret those scriptures in different ways. The Quakers, United Methodists, United Church of Christ and many others do not believe in dividing and judging people like the cult leader Dobson does. Dobson has done a great deal of damage to people of faith who have LGBT members in their families through his Pharisaical judgment. He is almost as bad as Fred Phelps.

[Rockymtntruth]

owchywawa a lot of people believe the main message of love that the Bible (especially Jesus' words) teach but they aren't Pharisees like James Dobson.

[xfvkemosx]

Priests...dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight and scowl on the fatal harbinger announcing the subversions of the duperies on which they live.

-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Correa de Serra, April 11, 1820

[johnperion24]

The greatest trick the devil ever did was make the world believe the world he didnt exsist. The deception is right in front of you........ Oh yes change is coming!! So whos it gonna be? Barack Obama or Jesus Christ? Im with JC man!!!

[pcuimac]

Dobson is the Anti-Christ. All the followers of satan are evangelists. And they also commit all the major sins. Like homosexualaty, taxfraud, adaultery etc.

"Assimilate this!" "Frackin evangelists!"

[jerro19711971]

How did te devil deseve the world? How did he do that. Television, kool aid, drugs?

How do you know this? lol

[iviewthetube]

Dobson distorted Obama's statement.

[kirbiak90ZX]

Actually he was pretty much on the spot. obama's saying that in a democracy like America, the bible, which ironically is founded on its teachings, has no real authority anymore because not everybody believes what it says, for whatever reason. Therefore that discredits any argument made in favor of policy that is supported by the Bible's teachings.Thats exactly what he said and in a democratic republic, everyone has a right to fight for what they believe.

[kirbiak90ZX]

Sure the bible does has have some discrepencies because it was written by people. these people were however, God-inspired people, and when people are inspired by God, His word is universal. in other words, everybody who is recieveing His word will all be on the same page. those who disagree with that word usually have their own human interpretation mixed up with God's word. blending perfect and imprefect, u get confusion. Thats what Obama is when he tries to interpret the Bible-confused.

[iviewthetube]

If there is any book that was inspired by God, it was my college textbook Fundamentals of Physics by Halliday&Resnick -- very consistant. :-)

[tonganmagic]

Besides that, the whole point of Dr Dobsons comments where aimed at President Obama's reasoning behind NOT banning abortion. He's saying he can't be swayed by his religious beliefs because they may conflict with the nations religious diversity. Your political agenda CAN reflect your personal beliefs... Its okay! I will be praying for President Obama that God guide his journey through the White house. I know he didnt invent abortion but he can "make a change".

[tonganmagic]

Do you even know what partial birth abortion is? Dead people in general, men, women, and children alike are products of war. I dont think Christians invented war so blaming us for dead babies in Iraq is stupid. I know that partial birth abortion wasn't invented by Christians, where the baby is already half way down the birth canal and is killed by cutting into the back of the neck. but thats okay because IT isnt a person until IT sees the light of day... Right? talk about make me sick!

[pcuimac]

If the moral law is absolut, as most Xristians suggest, then bombing and killing civilians as collateral damage is also murder! So i think the only Xristians i can accept are the "Jehovians". At least they stick to their rules.

[borat443]

Dobson and the christian right are against killing babies via abortion , but dropping bombs on babies and woman in wars is a great idea as far as these hypocrites are concerned these peoople make me sick

[missionarysarahbarry]

Does Obama know whats in the Bible? If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, he survives a day or 2, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his property. Ex 21:20-21

You may also buy them from the children of aliens among you, whom they begot in your land. These shall become your property: you may keep them as a possession for your children, for them to inherit as property forever. Such you may treat as slaves. Lev 25:44

[BenAliGtor]

Obama wins!

Guess "God is on his side" as much as He was with Chimpy McCokespoon in 2000 and 2004...unless, of course, He's no longer sovereign.

[sneha522]

being spiritual isnt wrong or stupid or a person is stupid because they believe on a higher power. Humans have the need to distort and destroy due to greed and uncontentment. i say stop hiding behind the veil of religion and start being honest with each other. i am a woman of faith and it pisses me off to see people abuse scripture and power to push an agenda that is not benefical to no one. Christians you cant teach the scriptures of love with hatred and condemnation.

[sneha522]

no one and i mean no one can speak for the Almighty including Dobson. Look everyone dont believe the same way and i can respect that. Bush hasnt stopped any type of abortions or anything for that matter. so if it were the case Bush had 8 years to change alot of things but instead of fighting for life he started an effortless war in the wrong country and have killed thousands of innocent people in iraq. so when did the Almighty ever say to attack? what happen to forgive and work toward peace?

[upthebuttmonkey]

wow. I agree with you very much so.

[CommonSpecies]

Barack Obama claims his faith is Christianity. So we read from Romans 13:1-7'Submission to the Authorities'.

The choices we have(good or bad), we must have earned them some how.

Verse7: Give them what you owe....if honor, then honor.

Every political choice we have to choose from is provided by our Creator. If our leaders haven't EARNED honor, then no honor should be given.

Obviously, Obama's past voting record, he doesn't deserve honor for his support of abortion.

NO OBAMA for President !

[Scjrd91]

George Bush's foreign policy: God's will

Adolf Hitler's foreign policy: God's will

Get rid of religion and you eradicate evil.

[delpha3110]

the islamics will ahve the stomach for a rela war aginst ameirca and there allies.after the iraq invasion the americna public told the senate that they were against the war and there loss of life ,seeing that as trajic,when rela war happens they will over take the state and civil war would be a distinct possibilty ,ironic considering the yanks trying to do that iran,cant stand me know

[Zickefoose]

@delpha3110 Dont you fucking blame us for what our GOVERNMENT is doing. Obama, Obama, Obama... we best get used to that name. Cause there aint shit we can do about it. In Iraq, you see $200,000,000,000 ( 200Bill) worth of nice fighting equipment. So, where is the other $700,000,000,000 ( 700Bill) ? People dont seem to realize, these " star wars " weapons, are REAL!.... your telling me America has not developed anything since the 60's and 70's!? Get real. NWO is sadly here, and have the power

[kimsfishface]

DR DOBSON is truely a man of God THANK YOU DR DOBSON for saying and speaking GODS words

[65brandy]

DOUH!! People Have been distorting the bible for centuries...Look at what they did to the natives, using the bible...Whats this!!your also using Christ for money Gain...Hypocrites...Christ was poor and didnt want your money in his church!!!!!!

[loc1218]

fuck what u believe

[gjsterp]

Please check out Ralph Nader before you vote.

He has answers to many of the county's problems.

The Dems and Reps are the same old story, and America will continue its downward spiral, if either of these men are elected.

[dovecry2]

How could anyone vote for a man who believes a baby that survives an abortion? The bible talks about death never gets enough of death - If that what u want then God will give u over to just that - but we Christians will not be here! YOU CAN HAVE THIS WORLD JUST GIVE ME JESUS

[Scjrd91]

Have you ever read the entire bible? The bible is a disgrace to humanity, i wouldn't even let my children read it.

[ukrainamoya]

you need some seriou help. first get the true meaning of what the bible tries to convey before you say anything.

[Scjrd91]

You're going straight to hell if you actually think the bible has an interpretation. In the bible, God says you must follow his exact word. I think it is you who needs serious help, using God as your crutch. Religion promotes hatred, good luck with that.

[Christiantericloth19]

I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ so if you don't like what I have typed guess what you can close the page but it will not change the fact that once you have read it you can't say no one told you about Jesus, your sin problem and how to escape the penalty of sin which is death not just death but eternal hell, continual heat without consumption.

[Christiantericloth19]

There is a difference between being blind and closing your eyes so you can't see but the day is coming when you can't keep your eyes closed any longer so either choose to open them or wait till they are opened for you. Only God knows your heart not me and by the way I am a sinner just the same as you but the difference between you and I is I have Jesus so my sins are forgiven which opens the way to eternal life.

[Christiantericloth19]

God help you all before it is too late and I mean to late before Christ returns and don't even think about dying before He does because you will suffer the same just won't suffer the tribulation. If you don't know what that is read Revelation. Oh and by the way I think the reason you talk the way you do about God, Jesus and the Bible is because you are afraid to admit you are a sinner.

[Christiantericloth19]

You can enjoy slamming anyone you want but the time will come when you too no matter how much you don't believe in God, Jesus, the Bible no matter who you are you will see him and suffer the wrath you deserve unless you repent. I WILL NOT BE REPLYING FURTHER.

[RegencyPastor]

Folks, are you actually listening to his critique? If Obama believes that he cannot support partial-birth abortion legislation on the basis that few will support it, then Obama might as well be mocking William Wilberforce who spent decades trying to abolish slavery through the democratic process in Britain. Democracy is not infallible, and sometimes one has to fight for years for righteous legislation. Is Obama truly saying "nobody should try"?

[andrewjohngordon]

Dobson should be out in the street with a cardboard sign around his neck reading the end is nigh.

[BenAliGtor]

"Dobson should be out in the street with a cardboard sign around his neck reading the end is nigh. "

Naw. He should be strung up from a lamp post with a sign round his neck reading, "My Daddy should have has had a vascectomy !"

[BenAliGtor]

Who gives a good shit WHAT James Dobson thinks or says? To hell with that embittered impotent geriatric charlitan.

The sooner he ends up in a grave being noshed upon by worms-like his pals D. James Kennedy and Jerry Falwell-the better for America.

[coralarch]

bengator, I've never heard of this creep, but your description of him is priceless. I am soooo thankful to live in a country where religion doesn't decide politics.

[BenAliGtor]

"I am soooo thankful to live in a country where religion doesn't decide politics."

It doesn't decide it for the majority of Amricans, either. Most Christians are smart enough to realize that granting crackpot hypocrites like Dobson ANY credence is a threat to religious liberty. If more eligible voters had turned out to vote in 2000 & 2004, there's no way the bible thumpers could have put Chimpy McCokespoon in the White House. The nuts have influence because too many normal people didn't vote.

[coralarch]

"Normal people didn't vote"....we do live in different countries! Here, voting is compulsory.

[RegencyPastor]

Dear BenAliGtor:

Maybe I'm out of the loop, but can you tell me what makes Dobson a hypocrite in your mind? I'm honestly curious.

Sincerely,

David

[BenAliGtor]

"Maybe I'm out of the loop, but can you tell me what makes Dobson a hypocrite in your mind? "

In less than 500 characters?Let's start with hiding behind tax exempt status while trying to influence government legislation.He's no different than lobbyists for tobacco companies, distillaries,casinos or pornography- except that those entities pay taxes-State, Federal & Local.He's every bit as ruthless. Then he wraps it all up in God & Country-and the churchie dimwits fall for it hook,line & sinker.

[deanrdd]

Distorting the Bible? American Christians distort science all the time. Insisting children's fables like Noah's Ark and Samson are "true stories" and "accurate events". What's worse, they want to make supernatural and the occult on par with "science". It's terrible and awful.

[Antitheistguy]

Concur 100%

[oaklynlen]

james dobson is just another typical self-appointed polyester AMERICAN christian. if the press didn't cover him as much as they did, he would probably be preaching in some colorado city church. the problem that i have with AMERICAN christians is that they are nothing more than g.o.p. ideologues hiding behind crosses! to place america in almost equal footing with jesus, is what they are all about!

[coachfun1987]

"Confused theology"?? Go back to supporting the mass-murdering Bush White House and picking fights with Sponge Bob Squarepants you fruitcake Dobson.

What is all too common are the likes of Dobson, Falwell, Robertson, etc. and their self-proclaimed expertise of right & wrong, biblical & unbiblical. What is more tragic are the followers of these types who cannot think or act in "christian" ways without this misguided leadership.

[maulhoik]

This asshole is yet one more example that the religious right is more dangerous than rev Write. These hatemongering dogmatists have polluted the Republican party for too long. They have also fucked up many peoples Spiritual progress by black/ white, either/or thinking, scaring and manipulating vulnerable minds to keep dark age thinking in the forefront.

It's time for a real spiritual awakening, and we start by kicking this bullshit to the curb.Evolve!

[Zickefoose]

@maulhoik THEY DONT WANT YOU TO EVOLVE! If we evolve, they means our government will be pointless. You seem to not realize that ALL politicians, Republican or Democrat are all paid by the same people to push the SAME agenda. Are people really still this ignorant? You want to evolve huh, well that aint happening untill you get the money out of the greed mouths. Because when we evolve it will be more than people think. Money will be useless, oil useless. The rich, just as powerful as the homeless.

[dsa8]

<<<<<<<Not voting for Obama

Obama has been here for a few years and he has record of flip-flopping longer than my arm

On the other hand Dobson has been here for decades and his word is still clean

[sorich]

All Obama is saying is that you cant take the the Bible literally word for word. If we did we would all be stoning each other at Joe's Crab shack for eating Shell Fish! LOL

[Linda7011]

Thank you Dr. Dobson for defending God's Word.  We stand behind you and your God given Wisdom!

[liber8me]

why? all obama was saying was that we had to be fair with the way the country was governed to ppl of all religions.

[tpetdoctor]

Dobson used to have some credibility, but he is increasingly going off the deep end. I hope he has a revelation of sorts before it gets much worse. He is on the verge of loosing it completely in my opinion.

[knobrocker]

As an evangelical Christian, I can say that James Dobson is a Republican handmaiden who has sold Our Lord and Savior down the river. He cares nothing for the environment, poverty, or social justic issues, which an honest reading of the new testament reveals is what Jesus is all about. Dobson has sold his soul to the Republican Devil and he will have to answer for the tens of thousands of deaths and injuries brought on by the unholy war propogated by this evil administration. Shame on him.

[dane3026]

knobrocker, "the environment, poverty, or social justic issues [ ] is what Jesus is all about." What!?! You've gotta be kidding me!

Jesus is all about leaving our own filthy self-goodness & accepting His sacrifice & authority (poor OR rich, environmentalist OR polluter, oppressor OR oppressed.)

An honest reading of the NT reveals Jesus responded to anyone with faith (king, peasant, religious leader or prostitute) & held an opposing position with anyone otherwise (king, peasant...etc.)

[knobrocker]

Yes, dane3026, and in surrendering your own filthy self-goodness, you allow the Lord to work within you and make you concerned about others. "Love one another. This is the teaching of the prophets in a nutshell." When you pollute the environment that others depend on for life, when you hoard wealth while others starve, when you turn a blind eye to careless wars, state-sanctioned torture, etc., etc., as the Bush administration has done, you are NOT following the teachings of Christ. Period.

[dane3026]

knobrocker, then it's a matter of "to whom" a blind eye is turned: to William Sumner's "The Forgotten Man" who is taxed as a means of redistributing wealth to "aid" the poor; or to citizen's of a nation who reasonably request security while "those in authority" cringe at the thought of harming the evil-doers.

I'm not claiming perfection, but I vastly prefer Dobson's thoughts on US Constitutional authority to Obama's.

[knobrocker]

I respect your opinion, and I certainly don't cringe at harming the evil-doers. However, I vociferously disagree with the WAY this administration did so. I believe that the arrogance and hubris and lack of humility demonstrated ("Bring 'em on!!") has been unconscienable. Blessed are the meek.... That doesn't mean that you don't stand up and fight evil. But it does mean that doing so without a profound comprehension of the gravity of going to war, and the cost in lives and treasure is sin.

[dane3026]

knobrocker, "Bring 'em on!!" - as if public speaking is Bush's great strength. Perhaps you're trying to confuse Bush with Gore, Kerry or Obama - all three of whom would have been far more eloquent in their commentary, but NOT necessarily any more successful in accomplishing the task.

That is, in fact, why I still prefer Bush, and will prefer McCain also.

[knobrocker]

The problem is not in his lack of public speaking abilities (which have, admittedly, lent some comic relief to the last dismal 7.5 years). It is in the ongoing sentiment expressed in words and actions and outcomes which belie incompetence, arrogance, and small-mindedness. I would never fault a person for being a poor orator. There is so much more than that for which to fault the Bush administration.

[deanrdd]

Unfortunatel, many Americans don't really understand the depth of the hurt Bush has caused this country. He has filled the Justice Dept. with party hacks from Christian tier four colleges, he has chased away nearly every reputable scientist (they refused to change data to match admin policy). Just fixing these two will take years.  Everything Bush has touched, he has ruined. Now this desperate treaty with N. Korea is another example of incompentance.

[Antitheistguy]

I gave a "thumbs up", and a "well said" to your comment, above. I need, however, to qualify both. Your opinion is "knee-jerk" liberalism at it's core. The so-called "hoarders of wealth" provide jobs to us unwashed heathens, and their contributions to charitable and environmental causes - on a percentage basis FAR outweigh most of ours. Every time you sneer at an industrialist, I hug the smokestack that gives YOU your livlihood.... Peace....

[deanrdd]

I wash. The top 3% own 96% of the wealth. Why shouldn't they pay 96% of the cost?

You know, in the old days, the very rich felt it was their duty to give back to a country that gave so much. After all, it's not them serving in the trenches and manning the boats and tanks. They used to feel it an obligation/honor to fund shelters and help others. I don't see that as much anymore. When billionair Warren Buffet pays 10% in taxes and his secratary pays 25%, there is something wrong. So he said.

[knobrocker]

Exaaaactly!

[knobrocker]

Actually, Antitheistguy (and by the way, I would much rather have a conversation with a thinking atheist that with an unthinking theist) I am not a knee-jerk liberal. I am onservative on many social issues. I am a business owner, not an emnployee, and I do pretty well financially. My strongly held belief, as a Christian, is that love is an action verb full of sacrifice, not just a nice feeling.

[Antitheistguy]

Again, I concur and a thumbs up. I presume YOU do not "hoard" your wealth, but that when you support something, it is carefully considered. I also concede that there ARE self-serving hoarders. I ask you to remember, however, people like Warren Buffett and Bill and Melinda Gates. Arguably among the wealthiest people in the world who give the MAJORITY of their wealth to charity.

[knobrocker]

Yes, I am FULL of admiration for the Buffets and the Gates of the world. Alas, for each of them, there are hundreds, if not thousands of well-to-do people who do very little for others. It is not lost on me that Republicans give to charity more than Democrats because they believe that giving should be a choice, not a mandate, and I do admire their giving. Unfortunately, charity-by-choice is undependable, sporadic and, utlimately, insufficient and ineffective. That's why I've become a Dem.

[Antitheistguy]

So, you would MANDATE redistribution of wealth? We are back, I'm sorry to say, to knee-jerk liberalism.....

[knobrocker]

I don't believe that either apporach, in and of itself, is a solution to the problem. Remember, I come from a Christian perspective, not a liberal or a conservative one, when it comes to working to alleviate human suffering. I don't believe that human suffering will ever cease. But I do believe that, as a Christian, I am called upon to fight against it. Whether private or public, SOME redistribution is required. It is knee-jerk conservatism to say that redistribution MUST be ONLY private.

[Antitheistguy]

Well said!

[SpeedyBruin]

I won't touch on abortion, but Dobson's opposition to marriage equality is truly sad.

[BenAliGtor]

"I won't touch on abortion, but Dobson's opposition to marriage equality is truly sad."

You have no idea HOW sad. Not only is he against same sex marriage, he's against inter racial marriage. If you go to the Focus website you'll see pics of Dobson's son, Ryan, and his second wife. They never posted pics of his first wife while the two were married. Why? The story is that she was African American and that Dobson is against inter-racial marriage.

[BenAliGtor]

BTW- talking about James Dobson's son's Ryan being divorced and remarried is a real No-No at Focus:employees have been terminated for doing just that.

[FHB71]

If I would believe in a god ;-) I would thank him for Obama. Dobson's views belong into the medieval ages. It is time for a country which thinks of itself that it is the most developed in the world to finally catch up with the rest of the world in these questions and not stay hundreds of years behind. Well, actually I wouldn't mind, that we Europeans are more advanced, but the would drag us into one religously motivated war after the other in the end.

[dane3026]

FHB71, "Europeans are more advanced"?

European minimum wage laws harm young minorities the most; current unemployment among the youth of minorities is about 40%; That's the advancement we should imitate?

Dobson espouses the idea of protecting unborn babies from abortion; that's medieval?

I do prefer the European Central Bank's inflationary policy to our Federal Reserve's inflationary policy, but that's a different issue.

[FHB71]

You have to see the whole picture. Unemployment is basically in the undereducated parts of the societies which are mostly based on immigrants.

Nobody speaks of unborn babies, but of stemcell research and of abortion of fetusses in their early stages and leaving the choice to the woman.

As soon as you prohibit things like abortion (within limits of course), reasonable research, things like gay marriage, teaching evlution and so on, you pave the road back to the medieval ages.

[dane3026]

FHB71, so because undereducated immigrants lack skills to demand higher wages it's OK to make it illegal for them to work for less?

Or, as long as the intention is well meaning, it's OK to terminate a fetus?

Or, between heterosexual marriage & homosexual marriage we must regard them as ABSOLUTELY IDENTICAL so as to not be bigots?

Or, in the absence of eyewitness observation of the initial origins of life; confessing a Creator, when mathematical probability suggests it, is medieval?

[FHB71]

a. that is more complicated and more dependent on cultural differences

b. yes until a certain time, usually 10-12 weeks.

c. correct

d. yes, because science has better theories than believing in fairy tales.

[dane3026]

FHB71, so you disagree with Barack Obama's position that partially delivering a fetus by birth & then severing it's spinal cord before the head emerges is OK ('cause that particular procedure for abortion occurs waaay past 10-12 weeks.) And yet Obama made no effort to restrict it when it came up for a vote.

I think your position on partial-birth abortion would warm James Dobson's heart.

[FHB71]

Who said that abortion is a party? Usually the fetus is cut into pieces inside the uterus and then sucked out. In the end it is more a question of the stress for the medical personal and how they are able to abstract the procedure. Do you remember being a fetus or a baby? Right, you do not. Of course science needs to define a certain threshold of age of the fetus, but why should I generally object to such a procedure?

[shortee4204real]

Oh my god get over it Mr. B.

[thedcoy]

Obama...closet atheist. Anyone giving this trivial issue any serious thought is pure asinine. The bible he say? Those taking any of that shit serious is just flat out silly. 50 years from now the only place we'll be debating religion is in a history class. I truly can not fathom all this talk on what Dobson has stated. Who the fuck is this imbecile? It's amazing that politicians even pretend to be christians. These guys are intelligent and leaders of the nation. fucking dark ages still with us!