I love this synth, I've had mine for years, bordering on decades. Sadly, over the course of time & moving, I've managed to lose my cable for the PG-800. Anyone out there happen to know a good lead on finding a replacement?!
The JX8P is better than a JUPITER 8 in my opinion. I am serious. Its has incredible warm pads/strings. Super synth bass/brass. And crystal clear bell sounds a Jupiter 8 cant do. Its the PERFECT HYBRID SYNTH. Like a perfect match between the JUPITER 8 AND DX7. And thats as good as it gets.
Great comment! People lost their mind to give twice the new price for an old Jup8; I offered 4000 USD for that here in Sweden but he laughed at me and sold the Jup8 for 6000 USD! Now I start looking for a JX8P; I loved it in the eighties; screw the hysterically priced Jup8! LOL
got mine a few years ago, wouldnt mind getting a PG800 mainly because its annoying flipping through a 1 line menu to adjust everything instead of having everything on the fly, guess id better get Ebaying a few memory cards couldnt hurt either
Not sure if you're aware but there is a software version of the PG-800 out there. I wasn't about the buy one off of ebay for the amounts they go for so finding the software to do it was great.
This is a very warm and diverse synth, use it with the PG 800 and you'll never look back... Also very good for P-funk and better 80-ies sound. Think this synth is very much underestimated ... Great bass, great strings, very nice in the mid of your mix...
@freezerr I think is it, but the Air's one sounds to me like a 1OSC synth with a huge chorus effect (maybe a Juno-60 or a Polysix?) Anyway you could achieve that kind of strings sound with a JX8P and an external chorus (the 8P's built-in chorus sounds a bit different)
How can i make mine sound like a piano, Please it sound like a organ or something, and i have no memory or Midi Box thingy, isn't there a way of how i can make it sound like a pure piano.
@retrosound72 Thanks for your opinion. Of course the P6 is also the simplest in architecture and features, but it does have a nice sound. I'm trying to downsize and going round in circles with which to get rid of (I also have 3P and various other synths). I keep thinking the AX80 can go but then I'm drawn back to it's 2+sub osc + PWM (missing on 8P) and 8P does nice strings etc... arggggh..
@HappyProducer Polysix for me too. I had one, stupidly sold it and have never forgiven myself since, (that and a Juno 60 that I kick myself in the ass about 15 years later). Almost bought a JX8p the other day but some banks were shot and thought it was too much of a crapshoot hoping it was just having to re-load the programs. Sysex data is such a nightmare ain't it? PS, my old Yamaha SK30 and TX 802 never leave the studio no matter what.
If you search for NOVA OPALEN 1986 on Youtube you'll find me and my friends, a live performance with my JX8P and TR 707 (still in almost new condition...), two , recorded in the town Sundsvall, Sweden, spring 1986. No sequencers and software...just two synths, guitar and the TR 707. Will probably buy a new synth soon,...I have to compose again...I love the keyboard and some of the warmer sounds...I even used the "Bubbles"-sound in the beginning of a song you will find when searching as above.
If you search for NOVA OPALEN 1986 on Youtube you'll find me and my friends, a live performance with my Roland tr 707 (still in new condition...), two synths (my Roland JX8P for example), recorded in the town , Sundsvall, Sweden, spring 1986. No sequencers and software; only two synthsounds, guitar and the 707...Will probably buy a new synth soon...I have to compose again...I think I paid 5000 SEK (in Euro: 450) for the Roland TR 707 in 1985, and 14000 SEK (in Euro: 1260) for the JX8P.
I am really thinking about getting this one as my FIRST synth. I don't much about synths but I do love the sounds they produce. Do you think I should get this or do you recommend something else as my FIRST? If I do get it do I really need the PG-800?
Mr. retrosound72-Man, you make NICE sounds and music with this. I recently picked up a JX-3P, which sounds VERY VERY nice. If you don't have one already, you should TOTALLY look into getting one. CHEAP, reliable, solid, and simply amazing. I'll post up a video of me demo-ing it with HD audio soon. MAN, this synth is nice!!
@VacTrooper I have owned several synths, this one too. I think a JX-8P is not that reliable. It takes time to program and values can only be changed with the "edit" slider. Because there is only one edit slider it wears out quickly. Costly repair !!!
Big positives : great sounds, great chorus, very realistic and convincing sounds can be made. Aftertouch, weighted keys, great Midi features. Solid? YES ! Heavy machine....lots of steel. Still, not as heavy as a Korg Polysix, though....;-)
Software/digital synths will never be better than analogue at analogue sounds. It's just ignorant to think that. It's like saying an analogue synth's piano sound is more realistic than the latest ROMpler. It's just not so... Regardless, fantastic demo. One of my favourite synths.
@retrosound72 Love all your videos guys, its always top quality and shows the real character and voice of the synths well. However, I do find you guys tend to be "pad heavy"...maybe a riff here or there? I'm not a fan of prog shredding myself, but maybe a patch or two with a quick, fun riff in there...it does get a bit drudgy at times with this omninous patches/melodies...cheers!
omnisphere sounds clearly on pads and strings , clean, and a much more complete sound than roland or other analog synthesizer.nexus is better in arpeggiator for trance,leads and bass
@djiannolsen omnisphere has a wider timbre palette (this should be the "rule", given it's native software...) but I don't think it sounds really better. It makes more various sounds than a JX-8P. Nexus is a rompler, so it sounds like the synthesizers that have been sampled, like the Virus and such. again, I don't see how Nexus is supposed to sound better than a JX-8P. More useful for what you do - yes. Don't even think to buy hardware, let alone analogue. Better, that's another story.
@djiannolsen Define better. If you mean dumb techno arp sound, yeah probably. But you can hardly call that a "performance".
No softsynth can sound so lush as the JX8P. The ImpOSCar comes close (although emulating a completely different synth) but still not really analogue sounding.
@Keybern, i work with omnisphere and he's kick ass your roland. i make trance with virtual synthesizers. quallity,better sound,low price -> omnisphere&nexus
@djiannolsen You're a moron. I don't even own the JX-8P, I just know it sounds brilliant. So, unlike you, I'm not just defending my own property like a blind/deaf man. You bought Nexus (maybe even just downloaded it), you're happy with it, that's fine for you. But don't come and puke over something that already proved it's power in the past. That's just plain ignorant.
@Keybern,a moron?:-)) hahaha nice joke. i challenge you :) omnisphere vs roland u have 5 days to make a song and post it like response here ;-) and i have 5 days to make a song with omnisphere. you are a chicken?:-)
midi controllers need to be plugged into a computer to be able to play with, but can I just plug and play if I buy a synth ? or do I have to plug it into my computer ?
one of the best classic analog machine! my two favorites are jx3p and the 8p! rest in peace analog!!! I believe roland was always the best in strings/pads in the early 80's and as long as its with two ocillators ... i tremble whenever i hear those warm pads!!!
how great would it be if there was real time controls on the 80's synths. I actually like the sound of 80's synths better than analog late 70's.... but I love the real time controls on analogs... DAMN.
@freezazoid Both the JX 8P and JX 3P had additional control units that could be purchased separately (PG 300 and PG 800 I think they were called). These connected to the synths and allowed real time control over the synths functions/ filters/ oscillators etc. via knobs and sliders. Rare, and pricey when they do eventually come up for sale!
This one of the best Roland Analog Synths, better than a Juno, you need the PG 800 to really have fun with it. I'll take this over any Juno. The Jx 10 is pretty much identical, with the fattest sound you've ever heard. The nice thing about the 8P is it sounds AMAZING, you can do tons of sounds and its great for synth pop/ techno/ electronica/ new age. Don't listen to people who say this is not a good synth, they are nuts.
@JohnTron84: FM is not that hard if you brush up a little bit on the theory first (and no, you don´t really need all that bloody mathematics). Personally I find it absolutely fascinating, and of course it complements analog beautifully! The best of luck in breaking the code and let´s hope you upload some of your sonic discoveries!
@retrosound72 no need for all that stuf your current pc should be able to translate all that midi data.. if you bought your pc 2 or 5 years ago, you can download ssound data.. and play it via your keyboard controller.. iif you got a pc from the 1991 your cool .. you will always find someting on the net to suit your computer!!
you can midi on an old sound blaster card if you wish,as long as it is has a low latency driver!! like ;
kx driver etc. midi is no big deal in sequencing these days(it doesnt demand too much on your pc's resources).you can use a midi cable that connects to the game joystick port on the sound card then extend to a couple of midi cables that way to your synth.saying that u can just get maudios midi man 2x2 and connect it via usb.if you need more info feel free to contact me : )
I still remember my mom selling this a year or two before I got into making music. I forgave her when I found her "old electric piano" was actually a wurlitzer sitting in the attic ;)
Why would somebody that owns an OB-8 and a JP-8 care about a Juno 106 or JX8P? The Pro One is an excellent monosynth, but if you've got the scratch for an OB-8 and JP-8, why not just shell out for a Prophet 5? Hell, why not add the Memorymoog too, then you'll pretty much have all of the best polysynths that were ever made.
This is synth is the best bargain on the planet! For around $200, you get a dual-oscillator DCO synth with separate envelopes for the VCF & VCA--the juno's don't offer this, and cost twice as much!
The JX sounds fatter/warmer than the juno, and contrary to what people may say, is actually fantastic at bass sounds.
Nope...perfect condition dx-7 for $60. That's honestly all it's worth, seriously--it's a big digital, sterile-sounding, impossible-to-program piece of shit.
I only use it for the rhodes and bell sounds....that's it. l wouldn't waste time trying to program something as un-userfriendly as a DX-7--one of the worse interfaces on a synth ever seen.
@DIGITALSCREAMS...I think I intended that last question for you, not marantzamp, but I'll accept any advice from anyone who's willing to offer...please help me, somebody.
I use Oberheim OB-8 & Roland Jupiter 8 synths,, I was looking to add more great synths to the collection. What do you think about these; Sequential Pro One, Roland Juno 106 & jx 8p VS the OB-8 and JP-8?? To be completely honest,, I can line up the two synths (OB-8 & JP-8) and almost get IDENTICAL sounds out of them both??!!!!!
@MARAMTZAMP...you definately know your synths. Can I ask you something? I have an Akai AX-80 and DX7 IIFD, but I love analogue and have wanted to try a JX8P, with a pg800 of course. But the Yamaha seems like it has a whole plethora of possibility in itself for all kinds of "real" tones. Is that a correct assumption? Would you suggest keeping either one over the other? Thanks and great video retrosound, all of yours are a huge help and very musical compared to other crappy posts...
The AX-80 has a comparable sound to the JX-8P once you really get into it, and it has slightly more modulation options with three LFOs and two envelopes. The biggest difference between the AX-80 and JX-8P would be that the Roland is a bit more lush. I loved the AX-80 (and regret selling it!), esp going through a warm analog preamp/eq, and light chorus really warms it up. The DX-7 is great as well, but I'm sure you know by now it's awesome for copying other sounds and making new ones. Keep both!
I used to own this one. The envelopes were definitely slow on the uptake so there was no bite. Other than that it was pretty smooth and had nice ringing tones. I eventually sold it because it was just so big and heavy.
I was just listening to a v-synth demo. I like the 303 emulator and others, but there is distinct difference between the strings of the v-synth and this one. Jx8P sounds like the 80s and the 70s, but the V-synth sounds like the 80s and more dated. Analog definitely wins the battle, although the pads in Live aren't bad and you can EQ, phase, noise and flange them instantly. I will say that a lot of these Rolands sound the same as my Juno-106.
I'm gonna have to disagree with Retrosound72 on this one. I used to have only two synths, a JX-8P and a Juno 106. I thought the JX-8P was much better for bass sounds. It was more difficult to program though having no sliders like the Juno.
Most people consider the DX7 to be very difficult to program. If you are this new to synthesis (obviously--not knowing what the DX7 is) I would suggest sticking to the easier to understand JX8P. It'll give you a solid basis in subtractive synthesis, which is needed to get your head around more in depth FM programming and so on.
Yeah, it wasn't a lot. It's not impossible... FM synthesis isn't really that hard once you understand how a carrier and modulator operator works and the tones you can get. After that it's no harder than any ROMpler or sampler.
They didn't make the user interface friendly though... of course at the time the cost for a generous screen would have been prohibitive.
IMHO the best way to get into FM is NI's FM7/FM8 softsynths. Sounds credible as well.
The problem with the DX7 is not even the interface, it's the enormous amount of parameters you have to operate at the same time in order to get what you want. I have programmed a Korg Poly61 (LED numbers), and countless other old synths like the D10 from Roland, all with 2-line displays. FM shines when you have either a lush amount of controls (like that blue DX7 programmer), or software like FM7/FM8. Check my channel to see how far FM8 stretches it.. :P
HAHA, thanks for the advice! The fact that other people trash their DX7's and give up programming them is partly why I picked my IIFD up. Not to mention it's got a great feel and makes for a perfect midi controller. I'm still holding onto the idea that I can "break the code" so to speak and unlock sounds never realized before...it's tedious and frustrating but I just keep trying, praying for some kind of divine intervention...God's telling me to go "MOOG" instead. Are you a fan of the Opus 3?
@retrosound72 really great videos you have posted so many thanks. I love those warm analog sounds of the 80s but would love to know which is better to go for playing live on stage: a prophet 08 or juno 60? can the prophet produce these classic sounds? please help x
@SPAZZOID100 Don't get me wrong, I own a Jx8p and Juno's, they are great for warm and fat sounds BUT, I only use them sparingly, in the last yr I've switched the jx on once and the junos about 10 times, mainly the Alpha, mostly I use vstis as they are far quicker and easier to get ideas down and Tal-Uno is pretty good. I bet you don't use analogue for everything you do otherwise surely you would get bored with the sound? I had better dig the jx out to check it over for oxidation!
I've still got mine. Bought it used in 86 for $900. The key contacts don't work so well anymore, but it can still be midi'd. Some of the biggest fattest sounds ever.
This was my first synth back when I was 16, but unfortunately it died. Marvellous to listen to those beautiful presets again, no synth at the time even came close to this
wow, these pads! This has to be my favorite synth ever! Thanks so much for all your vids retrosound, your demos are priceless! Do you know of any soft synth that might sound like this one? Arturia makes the Jupiter 8v - can that one maybe get close to the amazing pad sounds of the JX-8P?
Roland did make things a little confusing calling it "8p" while it's a 6-voice synth. They really should have called it "6p" and the JX-10 should have been called JX-12. That would have made things much clearer. With the Jupiter series they did name them correctly 4,6 and 8, corresponding with the polyphony. I guess Roland called it JX-8p to make it sound like a step up from the Jupiter 6. While it really isn't. (at least from a polyphony point of view).
Nice demo, great sounds on this synth - very reminiscent of Tangerine Dream from 86-87. Wish more manufacturers would consider re-releasing the classic stuff, modelling or otherwise.
there have been many attempts over the last decade to recreate the analogue sound. but more often than not we end up with synthesizers that sound less like the original classics and more like potential future classics themselves. some that i can remember: Roland JP-8080 Roland SH-201 Yamaha AN1X Nord Lead I, II Quasimidi Sirius Access Virus Novation Supernova Waldorf Q and for some software (LOTS of emulation here, look some up!) NI Recreations (Pro-5, DX-8) Propellerheads RB-338 and so on :)
I read an article in Keyboard magazine and it says that Roland Corp. has no interest in reissuing TR-808, TB-303, or any of the purely analog synths. Unfortunately, it's because it is cheaper to manufacture digital keyboards. In corporate world only profits count, the corporate execs don't seem to think with their hearts. I personally would love to have the D-50 reissued. But all Roland could do is to make a D-50 expansion board for the V-Synth. That was the only way it made sense to them.
@dvamateur I can't see the point of re-issuing the D50 because it sold by the bucket load and cost £1445 when new. The best they could do is maybe bring a new one out for £800 or so but you can buy second hand ones for £250 and there's loads around so who would buy a new one? I do however wish they'd start making their controllers again because almost no-one bought them and they're vital. Roland please make a PG800 and PG1000 for £150 again they'd sell!
@davedagreat69 Well, I was lookin gor a D-50 for about a year, beacause it's very hard to find one in good condition, as most of them had been gigged. If they re-issued one, I'd pay $1899 right away for a new one, under one condition, that it sounds and looks 100% like the original D-50. The same goes for the DX7, DX7II, and Casio VZ-1.
@dvamateur You are very much in a minority I would guess. I got a DX7s for £120 an SQ80 for £100 and a VZ1 and ESQ1 for £60 each. It's brilliant! You must agree with me about the controllers though, the MPG80 goes for £1000 sometimes and would cost about £200 to make new these days!
@davedagreat69 Well, I just don't like used equipment, that's why I'd like to buy all this 80's stuff new, but it's impossible now. Well, what can I do, my aesthetic needs shaped up when I was young, and they didn't change. I simply don't like the new products, so even if I were a millionaire, I wouldn't be able to buy what I like. This saddens me.
I love this synth, I've had mine for years, bordering on decades. Sadly, over the course of time & moving, I've managed to lose my cable for the PG-800. Anyone out there happen to know a good lead on finding a replacement?!
Ruinah 1 month ago
This is Charles the Beaver's synthesizer.
KodyBoy555 1 month ago
sounds like you could pull off the Twin Peaks pad sound with this one...
indieclock 2 months ago
The JX8P is better than a JUPITER 8 in my opinion. I am serious. Its has incredible warm pads/strings. Super synth bass/brass. And crystal clear bell sounds a Jupiter 8 cant do. Its the PERFECT HYBRID SYNTH. Like a perfect match between the JUPITER 8 AND DX7. And thats as good as it gets.
fender1000100 3 months ago
@fender1000100
Great comment! People lost their mind to give twice the new price for an old Jup8; I offered 4000 USD for that here in Sweden but he laughed at me and sold the Jup8 for 6000 USD! Now I start looking for a JX8P; I loved it in the eighties; screw the hysterically priced Jup8! LOL
Aetila 2 months ago
mmm there a difrents between dco and vco make the sounds so more expressive
soundmanhaven1 4 months ago
Last roland full analog?
SimmonsDrums 4 months ago
@SimmonsDrums
I believe that would have been the JX-10
Nightdare 4 weeks ago
got mine a few years ago, wouldnt mind getting a PG800 mainly because its annoying flipping through a 1 line menu to adjust everything instead of having everything on the fly, guess id better get Ebaying a few memory cards couldnt hurt either
moogmanXanders 5 months ago
@moogmanXanders
Not sure if you're aware but there is a software version of the PG-800 out there. I wasn't about the buy one off of ebay for the amounts they go for so finding the software to do it was great.
dwdrader 4 months ago
I´ve got an MKS70 module and a JX8P,I love both of them!
frmadrigal 8 months ago
This is a very warm and diverse synth, use it with the PG 800 and you'll never look back... Also very good for P-funk and better 80-ies sound. Think this synth is very much underestimated ... Great bass, great strings, very nice in the mid of your mix...
johanzki 8 months ago
Just a question: is it capable to get a pad sound close to that one on "Venus" by Air?
I mean that pad sound on 1:20 here ---> watch?v=Z_7oOMzbpa0
freezerr 8 months ago
@freezerr I think is it, but the Air's one sounds to me like a 1OSC synth with a huge chorus effect (maybe a Juno-60 or a Polysix?) Anyway you could achieve that kind of strings sound with a JX8P and an external chorus (the 8P's built-in chorus sounds a bit different)
Colpocorto 7 months ago
@Colpocorto
Thank you. Just bought a 8p :-)
But i think Air used a korg trident, i saw it in their stage, on a video here around
freezerr 7 months ago
great!
freezerr 8 months ago
How can i make mine sound like a piano, Please it sound like a organ or something, and i have no memory or Midi Box thingy, isn't there a way of how i can make it sound like a pure piano.
Note: Its a Roland JX-8P
Erickpowers14 9 months ago
my warmest synth !!You played my favourite patch also ..
JACKSON2012music 10 months ago
Reminds me of a Miami Vice incidental track!!!
MrYuppie 11 months ago
keyboard used on sweet dreams is a wasp edp
Pecid 11 months ago
jx8p, ax80, polysix - if you could only keep one of these which would it be?
HappyProducer 1 year ago
@HappyProducer
the Polysix. for me with the best sound from the three
retrosound72 1 year ago
@retrosound72 Thanks for your opinion. Of course the P6 is also the simplest in architecture and features, but it does have a nice sound. I'm trying to downsize and going round in circles with which to get rid of (I also have 3P and various other synths). I keep thinking the AX80 can go but then I'm drawn back to it's 2+sub osc + PWM (missing on 8P) and 8P does nice strings etc... arggggh..
So between AX80 and 8P? (have you played an ax80)
HappyProducer 1 year ago
@HappyProducer
yes both. ok than the JX. :)
retrosound72 1 year ago
@retrosound72 Ta. P6+3P is probably more than enough retro poly anyway.
HappyProducer 1 year ago
@HappyProducer Polysix for me too even though the others are great.
freethoughtmusic 5 months ago
@HappyProducer Polysix for me too. I had one, stupidly sold it and have never forgiven myself since, (that and a Juno 60 that I kick myself in the ass about 15 years later). Almost bought a JX8p the other day but some banks were shot and thought it was too much of a crapshoot hoping it was just having to re-load the programs. Sysex data is such a nightmare ain't it? PS, my old Yamaha SK30 and TX 802 never leave the studio no matter what.
freethoughtmusic 2 months ago
so all it does is soft pads?
weaselidiotu 1 year ago
this is the keyboard used in sweet dreams :)
tf2cheats 1 year ago
If you search for NOVA OPALEN 1986 on Youtube you'll find me and my friends, a live performance with my JX8P and TR 707 (still in almost new condition...), two , recorded in the town Sundsvall, Sweden, spring 1986. No sequencers and software...just two synths, guitar and the TR 707. Will probably buy a new synth soon,...I have to compose again...I love the keyboard and some of the warmer sounds...I even used the "Bubbles"-sound in the beginning of a song you will find when searching as above.
MrJX8P 1 year ago 2
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If you search for NOVA OPALEN 1986 on Youtube you'll find me and my friends, a live performance with my Roland tr 707 (still in new condition...), two synths (my Roland JX8P for example), recorded in the town , Sundsvall, Sweden, spring 1986. No sequencers and software; only two synthsounds, guitar and the 707...Will probably buy a new synth soon...I have to compose again...I think I paid 5000 SEK (in Euro: 450) for the Roland TR 707 in 1985, and 14000 SEK (in Euro: 1260) for the JX8P.
MrJX8P 1 year ago
Wait...........you were talking about the JX-3P...... oh well.... same machine. Almost. Just as great.
telescopereplicator 1 year ago
is this synth the one that appears in kiss ''reason to live''
and 2) with a yamaha motif (for example) you can achieve similar sounds?
tonato17 1 year ago
awesome, only 80s the best music and sounds..
totto210 1 year ago
I am really thinking about getting this one as my FIRST synth. I don't much about synths but I do love the sounds they produce. Do you think I should get this or do you recommend something else as my FIRST? If I do get it do I really need the PG-800?
ScTMoVB 1 year ago
i freak out...sounds great...i need one :-)
Elwappo1234 1 year ago
I think this synth was used by Europe in 'The Final Countdown'
EuropeFactor 1 year ago
@EuropeFactor
yes
retrosound72 1 year ago
Mr. retrosound72-Man, you make NICE sounds and music with this. I recently picked up a JX-3P, which sounds VERY VERY nice. If you don't have one already, you should TOTALLY look into getting one. CHEAP, reliable, solid, and simply amazing. I'll post up a video of me demo-ing it with HD audio soon. MAN, this synth is nice!!
VacTrooper 1 year ago
@VacTrooper
Hi, thank you. The JX-3P is very nice and one of the most underrated analog synths ever. I will show your vid.
retrosound72 1 year ago
@retrosound72 Cool, thanks man. :D
VacTrooper 1 year ago
@VacTrooper
Oh my, and I sold mine incl. mapper for less....
Arminchen 1 year ago
@VacTrooper I have owned several synths, this one too. I think a JX-8P is not that reliable. It takes time to program and values can only be changed with the "edit" slider. Because there is only one edit slider it wears out quickly. Costly repair !!!
Big positives : great sounds, great chorus, very realistic and convincing sounds can be made. Aftertouch, weighted keys, great Midi features. Solid? YES ! Heavy machine....lots of steel. Still, not as heavy as a Korg Polysix, though....;-)
telescopereplicator 1 year ago
Software/digital synths will never be better than analogue at analogue sounds. It's just ignorant to think that. It's like saying an analogue synth's piano sound is more realistic than the latest ROMpler. It's just not so... Regardless, fantastic demo. One of my favourite synths.
rezisehtnys 1 year ago
i own one of these :)
MeanHacker 1 year ago
fuck i love this synth
musiclover041591 1 year ago 12
yo i used to play one of these in a band called Yellow Station Blue in the early 90s. We played places like The Orange, The Subteranea
bopkick5 1 year ago
Man... I miss my JX-8P. I regret selling it!!!!
Deepwatermusic 1 year ago
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is that a analog synthesizer?:) man,omnisphere virtual synth and nexus 2 sounds better
djiannolsen 1 year ago
@djiannolsen
how better?
retrosound72 1 year ago
@retrosound72 Love all your videos guys, its always top quality and shows the real character and voice of the synths well. However, I do find you guys tend to be "pad heavy"...maybe a riff here or there? I'm not a fan of prog shredding myself, but maybe a patch or two with a quick, fun riff in there...it does get a bit drudgy at times with this omninous patches/melodies...cheers!
audibleobsession 1 year ago 6
@audibleobsession
yes ok, but I have my JX sold ;)
retrosound72 1 year ago
omnisphere sounds clearly on pads and strings , clean, and a much more complete sound than roland or other analog synthesizer.nexus is better in arpeggiator for trance,leads and bass
djiannolsen 1 year ago
if u want i make a video with omnisphere and nexus
djiannolsen 1 year ago
@djiannolsen dream on ;)
TR0jAX 1 year ago
@djiannolsen omnisphere has a wider timbre palette (this should be the "rule", given it's native software...) but I don't think it sounds really better. It makes more various sounds than a JX-8P. Nexus is a rompler, so it sounds like the synthesizers that have been sampled, like the Virus and such. again, I don't see how Nexus is supposed to sound better than a JX-8P. More useful for what you do - yes. Don't even think to buy hardware, let alone analogue. Better, that's another story.
R31Bi 1 year ago
@djiannolsen Define better. If you mean dumb techno arp sound, yeah probably. But you can hardly call that a "performance".
No softsynth can sound so lush as the JX8P. The ImpOSCar comes close (although emulating a completely different synth) but still not really analogue sounding.
Keybern 1 year ago
@Keybern, i work with omnisphere and he's kick ass your roland. i make trance with virtual synthesizers. quallity,better sound,low price -> omnisphere&nexus
djiannolsen 1 year ago
@djiannolsen You're a moron. I don't even own the JX-8P, I just know it sounds brilliant. So, unlike you, I'm not just defending my own property like a blind/deaf man. You bought Nexus (maybe even just downloaded it), you're happy with it, that's fine for you. But don't come and puke over something that already proved it's power in the past. That's just plain ignorant.
Keybern 1 year ago 2
@Keybern,a moron?:-)) hahaha nice joke. i challenge you :) omnisphere vs roland u have 5 days to make a song and post it like response here ;-) and i have 5 days to make a song with omnisphere. you are a chicken?:-)
djiannolsen 1 year ago
@djiannolsen You're not that good of reader are you ? I said I don't own a Roland synth myself. So don't bother yourself challenging me.
I do use softsynths a lot and I have 2 virtual analogues which I'm very keen of using.
But I'm not that ignorant to puke over some vintage synths like you do.
So please, just leave this video and go play on your computer. You're really of no use here.
Keybern 1 year ago
@Keybern, kill yourself. you don't own nothing,u don't have enough money to pass the way.... hahahahaha
djiannolsen 1 year ago
Nothing new I have heard sounds as cool as that Roland. Love the playing.
mikefitzman 1 year ago
midi controllers need to be plugged into a computer to be able to play with, but can I just plug and play if I buy a synth ? or do I have to plug it into my computer ?
nexlon 1 year ago
i own one of these with the pg800 programmer too
bencrea1 1 year ago
one of the best classic analog machine! my two favorites are jx3p and the 8p! rest in peace analog!!! I believe roland was always the best in strings/pads in the early 80's and as long as its with two ocillators ... i tremble whenever i hear those warm pads!!!
wilcossb 1 year ago
I love the sounds from 2:30 to 3:40.
CascadiaTrucker 1 year ago
this sounds alot like BoC's olson version 4......
Thelightingeffects 1 year ago
how great would it be if there was real time controls on the 80's synths. I actually like the sound of 80's synths better than analog late 70's.... but I love the real time controls on analogs... DAMN.
freezazoid 1 year ago
@freezazoid Both the JX 8P and JX 3P had additional control units that could be purchased separately (PG 300 and PG 800 I think they were called). These connected to the synths and allowed real time control over the synths functions/ filters/ oscillators etc. via knobs and sliders. Rare, and pricey when they do eventually come up for sale!
1986uno45s 1 year ago
Oh the JX-8P :::sigh:::. Use to have one of these. Wish I hadn't gotten rid of it. I really miss it... yes, even the wooden bottom.
rich661 1 year ago
I have it..... one of my best purchase :)
zanfozanfani 1 year ago
This one of the best Roland Analog Synths, better than a Juno, you need the PG 800 to really have fun with it. I'll take this over any Juno. The Jx 10 is pretty much identical, with the fattest sound you've ever heard. The nice thing about the 8P is it sounds AMAZING, you can do tons of sounds and its great for synth pop/ techno/ electronica/ new age. Don't listen to people who say this is not a good synth, they are nuts.
Novaheart1998 1 year ago
@JohnTron84: FM is not that hard if you brush up a little bit on the theory first (and no, you don´t really need all that bloody mathematics). Personally I find it absolutely fascinating, and of course it complements analog beautifully! The best of luck in breaking the code and let´s hope you upload some of your sonic discoveries!
Guakingo 1 year ago
@Guakingo
Programming any DX7 is an absolute nightmare.
I will stick to subtractive synthesis
SPAZZOID100 1 year ago
Sounds like the score to Mulholland Dr.
saulocisneros 1 year ago
how can i take away the static sound in mine? plz answer
2xrapx2 1 year ago
i have a couple of question about midi if someone can answer them:
Do I need a "good" pc to be able to midi control a synth? (i mean will there be a little lag or anything)
and
Can i make a midi song and play it on my synth??
thanks for any help
UnchainTheNight1 2 years ago
the pc is not the problem.
you need a good soundcard
good and not expensive: M-Audio Delta
retrosound72 2 years ago
even if i use a usb to midi interface? for editing, patch storage and uh.. playing it?? whatever thats called, like what a sequencer does
UnchainTheNight1 2 years ago
when you use the USB2 standard is that not the problem
I also use a 4 years old pc :)
retrosound72 2 years ago
so youre saying i wont need a new card if i use usb?
UnchainTheNight1 2 years ago
yes only when you use midi over the soundcard or audio recording
retrosound72 2 years ago
got it, thanks so much for all the help.
UnchainTheNight1 2 years ago
@retrosound72 no need for all that stuf your current pc should be able to translate all that midi data.. if you bought your pc 2 or 5 years ago, you can download ssound data.. and play it via your keyboard controller.. iif you got a pc from the 1991 your cool .. you will always find someting on the net to suit your computer!!
amygdala3290 1 year ago
@retrosound72 you better say "its not expensive" ^^ but for its price, its ok.^^
WirSindRocker 1 year ago
@retrosound72 Hi again!, well, in terms of soundcards, I own an M-AUDIO FAST TRACK PRO (The blue one), I would like to know your oppinion abut it.
Thank you!
ANDRES77 1 year ago
@ANDRES77
the fast track pro is a good soundcard
retrosound72 1 year ago
@UnchainTheNight1
you can midi on an old sound blaster card if you wish,as long as it is has a low latency driver!! like ;
kx driver etc. midi is no big deal in sequencing these days(it doesnt demand too much on your pc's resources).you can use a midi cable that connects to the game joystick port on the sound card then extend to a couple of midi cables that way to your synth.saying that u can just get maudios midi man 2x2 and connect it via usb.if you need more info feel free to contact me : )
sixahem 2 years ago
I still remember my mom selling this a year or two before I got into making music. I forgave her when I found her "old electric piano" was actually a wurlitzer sitting in the attic ;)
JoelisRich 2 years ago
Why would somebody that owns an OB-8 and a JP-8 care about a Juno 106 or JX8P? The Pro One is an excellent monosynth, but if you've got the scratch for an OB-8 and JP-8, why not just shell out for a Prophet 5? Hell, why not add the Memorymoog too, then you'll pretty much have all of the best polysynths that were ever made.
spoonster12 2 years ago
The sound is different. Any synth has own strengths.
retrosound72 2 years ago
This is synth is the best bargain on the planet! For around $200, you get a dual-oscillator DCO synth with separate envelopes for the VCF & VCA--the juno's don't offer this, and cost twice as much!
The JX sounds fatter/warmer than the juno, and contrary to what people may say, is actually fantastic at bass sounds.
MARANTZamp 2 years ago 3
dx7 is best for bass
GanEdenAustralia 2 years ago
oh God no! the worst bass sounds ever came from the dx-7, especially that "superbass" preset! AWFUL
Analog stomps the dx synths for bass, strings, pads, and basically everything else.
MARANTZamp 2 years ago
@MARANTZamp You've obviously never heard any Stock AItken Waterman productions then which all used amazing synth bass sounds.....
GanEdenAustralia 2 years ago
why...of course I do..I have some of their records, and the only ones that sound good are the ones with prophet-5 bass, NOT dx7.
The dx7 is worthless.
MARANTZamp 2 years ago
@MARANTZamp bollocks
GanEdenAustralia 2 years ago
I found a dx-7 for $50 last year...that should tell you something.
Gee...I wonder how many moogs I'll find at that price?
I surely do not know what you are talking about when you say dx-7 bass sounds good.
The only thing the dx is good for is that rhodes sound, and the bell sounds.
Bass is best from analog synths like moogs, prophets, and oberheims..just check your record collection and you'll see what i mean.
MARANTZamp 2 years ago
@MARANTZamp must hav ebeen broken then as most on ebay are around $300 - $500
DX7 isnt even analog!
GanEdenAustralia 2 years ago
Nope...perfect condition dx-7 for $60. That's honestly all it's worth, seriously--it's a big digital, sterile-sounding, impossible-to-program piece of shit.
I only use it for the rhodes and bell sounds....that's it. l wouldn't waste time trying to program something as un-userfriendly as a DX-7--one of the worse interfaces on a synth ever seen.
MARANTZamp 2 years ago
@MARANTZamp feck off wanktard
GanEdenAustralia 2 years ago
U fuck off..you are clueless.
MARANTZamp 2 years ago
@MARANTZamp HAHAHA
GanEdenAustralia 2 years ago
@MARANTZamp
check out my DX7 pad visions demo....
DIGITALSCREAMS 2 years ago
@DIGITALSCREAMS...I think I intended that last question for you, not marantzamp, but I'll accept any advice from anyone who's willing to offer...please help me, somebody.
JohnTron84 1 year ago
I use Oberheim OB-8 & Roland Jupiter 8 synths,, I was looking to add more great synths to the collection. What do you think about these; Sequential Pro One, Roland Juno 106 & jx 8p VS the OB-8 and JP-8?? To be completely honest,, I can line up the two synths (OB-8 & JP-8) and almost get IDENTICAL sounds out of them both??!!!!!
intromix 2 years ago
those two synths are not alike at all.
Roland analogs don't quite sound as big or warm as the american synths from their respective eras.
MARANTZamp 2 years ago
@MARAMTZAMP...you definately know your synths. Can I ask you something? I have an Akai AX-80 and DX7 IIFD, but I love analogue and have wanted to try a JX8P, with a pg800 of course. But the Yamaha seems like it has a whole plethora of possibility in itself for all kinds of "real" tones. Is that a correct assumption? Would you suggest keeping either one over the other? Thanks and great video retrosound, all of yours are a huge help and very musical compared to other crappy posts...
JohnTron84 1 year ago
the JX-8P is a very underrated analog synth...I highly recommend it, even without the programmer! (the pg-800 is way to expensive to even consider).
I would sooner give up the dx-7 than the ax-60, even though the dx can do metallic tones that the analogs aren't very good at.
I'd say keep em all for now.
MARANTZamp 1 year ago
i can sell mine to you (no pg800) for about $250
mistermafia9 1 year ago
The AX-80 has a comparable sound to the JX-8P once you really get into it, and it has slightly more modulation options with three LFOs and two envelopes. The biggest difference between the AX-80 and JX-8P would be that the Roland is a bit more lush. I loved the AX-80 (and regret selling it!), esp going through a warm analog preamp/eq, and light chorus really warms it up. The DX-7 is great as well, but I'm sure you know by now it's awesome for copying other sounds and making new ones. Keep both!
drwolfer 1 year ago
@drwolfer
I've owned a JX for a couple of years, and love the strings and pads to death on it...
Then, a couple of months ago, I found a MINT AX80.
Immediately, I noticed how, even with programming the AX sounded thin and lifeless, especially next to the JX.
Akai's synths mostly sucked, and did not sell very well. The AX80 was a lemon, and still is.
I sold it a week later and didn't regret it.
Akai's synths back then were pretty weak, except for the ax60 which was decent.
SPAZZOID100 1 year ago
I used to own this one. The envelopes were definitely slow on the uptake so there was no bite. Other than that it was pretty smooth and had nice ringing tones. I eventually sold it because it was just so big and heavy.
synthwerk 2 years ago
the bass is great on the jx...very warm. better than the juno and tb
MARANTZamp 2 years ago
@synthwerk
I am getting good bass sounds now out of mine, so I've changed my mind about the envelopes.
SPAZZOID100 1 year ago
beautiful
LubricatedBeat 2 years ago 2
WOW ! Thanks for posting!
elektra72 2 years ago 2
I was just listening to a v-synth demo. I like the 303 emulator and others, but there is distinct difference between the strings of the v-synth and this one. Jx8P sounds like the 80s and the 70s, but the V-synth sounds like the 80s and more dated. Analog definitely wins the battle, although the pads in Live aren't bad and you can EQ, phase, noise and flange them instantly. I will say that a lot of these Rolands sound the same as my Juno-106.
TheRealCritique 2 years ago
I'm gonna have to disagree with Retrosound72 on this one. I used to have only two synths, a JX-8P and a Juno 106. I thought the JX-8P was much better for bass sounds. It was more difficult to program though having no sliders like the Juno.
spulkagent47 2 years ago
With the programmer PG 800 the pure synth heaven.
retrosound72 2 years ago
which is better, the jx8p or dx7?
JohnnyMidnight1 2 years ago
this are two completely different Synths DX7 ( FM digital) JX (analog) with completely different sounds but both are great
retrosound72 2 years ago
I know that much, but in terms of what I'd be able to get out of each, which is better for what?
JohnnyMidnight1 2 years ago
DX-7: cristal clear sounds, e-piano, bells, guitar like sounds, percussive sounds
JX: warm analog string and pad sounds, fat analog basses, analog leads, analog filter sounds
DX7=cold sound
JX = warm sound
retrosound72 2 years ago
Most people consider the DX7 to be very difficult to program. If you are this new to synthesis (obviously--not knowing what the DX7 is) I would suggest sticking to the easier to understand JX8P. It'll give you a solid basis in subtractive synthesis, which is needed to get your head around more in depth FM programming and so on.
theoriginalmrsm 2 years ago
try IMPOSSIBLE to program!
From what i've heard, only about 1% of dx-7 owners ever actually figured out how to program the darn thing.
MARANTZamp 2 years ago
Yeah, it wasn't a lot. It's not impossible... FM synthesis isn't really that hard once you understand how a carrier and modulator operator works and the tones you can get. After that it's no harder than any ROMpler or sampler.
They didn't make the user interface friendly though... of course at the time the cost for a generous screen would have been prohibitive.
IMHO the best way to get into FM is NI's FM7/FM8 softsynths. Sounds credible as well.
theoriginalmrsm 2 years ago
The problem with the DX7 is not even the interface, it's the enormous amount of parameters you have to operate at the same time in order to get what you want. I have programmed a Korg Poly61 (LED numbers), and countless other old synths like the D10 from Roland, all with 2-line displays. FM shines when you have either a lush amount of controls (like that blue DX7 programmer), or software like FM7/FM8. Check my channel to see how far FM8 stretches it.. :P
mvsmsx 2 years ago
HAHA, thanks for the advice! The fact that other people trash their DX7's and give up programming them is partly why I picked my IIFD up. Not to mention it's got a great feel and makes for a perfect midi controller. I'm still holding onto the idea that I can "break the code" so to speak and unlock sounds never realized before...it's tedious and frustrating but I just keep trying, praying for some kind of divine intervention...God's telling me to go "MOOG" instead. Are you a fan of the Opus 3?
JohnTron84 1 year ago
@retrosound72 really great videos you have posted so many thanks. I love those warm analog sounds of the 80s but would love to know which is better to go for playing live on stage: a prophet 08 or juno 60? can the prophet produce these classic sounds? please help x
victims00 2 years ago
thanks :)
I am not a friend of the Prophet 08. The sound is not classic analog and the hardware ist crap.
The Juno 60 is much better for the typical 80`s retro sound and the hardware is good.
retrosound72 2 years ago
It has a great sound but I think that the software plugins are getting closer each yr and a lot less hassle than hardware.
maccagrabme 2 years ago
But there is still something missing that I call the analog "growl".
Plus...hardware is so much more hands on and inspiring.
MARANTZamp 2 years ago
@maccagrabme
you can keep your vst's
SPAZZOID100 1 year ago
@SPAZZOID100 Don't get me wrong, I own a Jx8p and Juno's, they are great for warm and fat sounds BUT, I only use them sparingly, in the last yr I've switched the jx on once and the junos about 10 times, mainly the Alpha, mostly I use vstis as they are far quicker and easier to get ideas down and Tal-Uno is pretty good. I bet you don't use analogue for everything you do otherwise surely you would get bored with the sound? I had better dig the jx out to check it over for oxidation!
maccagrabme 1 year ago
I've still got mine. Bought it used in 86 for $900. The key contacts don't work so well anymore, but it can still be midi'd. Some of the biggest fattest sounds ever.
raydeen2k 2 years ago
look out for Alavux - Repetitor song , who love jx8p it will be pleased ;)
alavuk 2 years ago
Yet another demo I liked a lot.
I love 80's Roland synths, they're my favourites.
ec101dm 2 years ago 2
I use Rolands Juno 106 and may be I will buy a JX-8P (270 Euro). What do you think about the difference? Thanks for the answer.
inocandide 2 years ago
Juno: much better for bass sounds, faster envelopes, better filter, easy to program
JX: 2 DCO´s , very nice pad sounds and metallic (crossmodulation) sounds, oscillator sync, very good standard analog sounds, not expensive
retrosound72 2 years ago
Thanks....
inocandide 2 years ago
wow - I don't remember it sounding this good -factory or custom patches?
sommersmcc 2 years ago
factory and custom patches
thanks
retrosound72 2 years ago
This was my first synth back when I was 16, but unfortunately it died. Marvellous to listen to those beautiful presets again, no synth at the time even came close to this
Guakingo 2 years ago
Is this the synth that Jean Michel Jarre used for that awesome sound in Chronologie 1?
kenkarsonn 2 years ago
SOME OF MY FAVE ROLAND SOUNDS EVER.
cant beat that soundtrack pad
mysticradio 2 years ago 2
wow, these pads! This has to be my favorite synth ever! Thanks so much for all your vids retrosound, your demos are priceless! Do you know of any soft synth that might sound like this one? Arturia makes the Jupiter 8v - can that one maybe get close to the amazing pad sounds of the JX-8P?
Thanks a lot!!
macdaddylorenzo 2 years ago
thank you
Believe me no soft-synth can make this sound.
The JX-8p is very underrated and not expensive.
retrosound72 2 years ago
Ok, I'll look for one. Thanks so much for your info!
macdaddylorenzo 2 years ago
XXXtasis absolute, the stratocaster of electronic music.
alonso1050 2 years ago 3
Most of the sound in LOGOS album of Tangerine Dream comes from this great syth, in the minute 0:02, 1.45, 2.30, 3.12,4.10, and 4.57,
drsaucedasantos 2 years ago 2
thanks for the information
retrosound72 2 years ago
This one was used by TANGERINE DREAM in many of their 80s records, great sound
drsaucedasantos 2 years ago
can anyone tell me if you use sounddiver on this can you tweak patches and dump them via sysex?
MadCobraProductions 2 years ago
how many keys can you press at once?
recordmasta001 2 years ago
Eight
gcoudert 2 years ago
You could, but only 6 will sound ;)
The JX-8p is a 12-DCO, 6 voice polyphonic synthesizer.
MacXpert74 2 years ago
Yes, you're right. What was I thinking?!
gcoudert 2 years ago
Roland did make things a little confusing calling it "8p" while it's a 6-voice synth. They really should have called it "6p" and the JX-10 should have been called JX-12. That would have made things much clearer. With the Jupiter series they did name them correctly 4,6 and 8, corresponding with the polyphony. I guess Roland called it JX-8p to make it sound like a step up from the Jupiter 6. While it really isn't. (at least from a polyphony point of view).
MacXpert74 2 years ago
I owned both a jupiter-6 and the jx-8P, and I think the jx sounds much warmer..
MARANTZamp 2 years ago 6
ONE OF MY FAVE SYNTH PATCHES OF ALL TIME.... warm pad... goes with so many things
mysticradio 2 years ago 3
Nice demo, great sounds on this synth - very reminiscent of Tangerine Dream from 86-87. Wish more manufacturers would consider re-releasing the classic stuff, modelling or otherwise.
baboastation 2 years ago
pnexpers 2 years ago 2
ciary na plecach 5/5
Marcinio100 2 years ago
Roland simply made the best sounding, enormously fat and rich analog synthesizers. ikutaro kakehashi was on a roll from TBs to jupiter to junos.
Is there any way Roland will release an updated analog synthesizer like the Prophet 08 from Dave Smith?
ncheriyan 2 years ago 3
I read an article in Keyboard magazine and it says that Roland Corp. has no interest in reissuing TR-808, TB-303, or any of the purely analog synths. Unfortunately, it's because it is cheaper to manufacture digital keyboards. In corporate world only profits count, the corporate execs don't seem to think with their hearts. I personally would love to have the D-50 reissued. But all Roland could do is to make a D-50 expansion board for the V-Synth. That was the only way it made sense to them.
dvamateur 2 years ago 5
@dvamateur I can't see the point of re-issuing the D50 because it sold by the bucket load and cost £1445 when new. The best they could do is maybe bring a new one out for £800 or so but you can buy second hand ones for £250 and there's loads around so who would buy a new one? I do however wish they'd start making their controllers again because almost no-one bought them and they're vital. Roland please make a PG800 and PG1000 for £150 again they'd sell!
davedagreat69 1 year ago
@davedagreat69 Well, I was lookin gor a D-50 for about a year, beacause it's very hard to find one in good condition, as most of them had been gigged. If they re-issued one, I'd pay $1899 right away for a new one, under one condition, that it sounds and looks 100% like the original D-50. The same goes for the DX7, DX7II, and Casio VZ-1.
dvamateur 1 year ago
@dvamateur You are very much in a minority I would guess. I got a DX7s for £120 an SQ80 for £100 and a VZ1 and ESQ1 for £60 each. It's brilliant! You must agree with me about the controllers though, the MPG80 goes for £1000 sometimes and would cost about £200 to make new these days!
davedagreat69 1 year ago
@davedagreat69 Well, I just don't like used equipment, that's why I'd like to buy all this 80's stuff new, but it's impossible now. Well, what can I do, my aesthetic needs shaped up when I was young, and they didn't change. I simply don't like the new products, so even if I were a millionaire, I wouldn't be able to buy what I like. This saddens me.
dvamateur 1 year ago
which one are you selling? LOL only jk
beatsanctuary 2 years ago
punk lol
UnchainTheNight1 2 years ago
lol
beatsanctuary 2 years ago
Those analog strings (although not as full as the juno) made me melt inside! Wonderful!
SynthWho 2 years ago 2
not as full as the Juno? Really?
karimnn 2 years ago