THE [ SALEN-GA FLAT EARTH PARADOX ] OF QUANTUM PHYSICS- THE EARTH IS GLOBALLY ROUND TO AN ASTRONAUT AND IS LOCALLY FLAT TO A PEDESTRIAN. A MUCH MORE CLEARER PARADOX THAN SCHRODINGER'S DEAD/LIVE CAT. THE POWERFUL SALENGA PARADOX IS BASED ON HENRI POINCARE'S [ RELATIVITY OF SIMULTANEITY WHICH STATES: " A THING OR PHENOMENA IN NATURE, AND IT'S LOGICAL OPPOSITE ARE BOTH ANTI-LOGICALLY VALID AND TRUE, DEPENDENT UPON A PARTICIPATOR(PHYSICS OBSERVER)EXPERIENCING THE THING OR PHENOMENA".
Metaphysical has been science's designation for all weightless phenomena such as thought. But science has made no experimental finding of any phenomena that can be described as a solid, or as continuous, or as a straight surface plane, or as a straight line, or as infinite anything. We are now synergetically forced to conclude that all phenomena are metaphysical; wherefore, as many have long suspected – like it or not – life is but a dream. ( Synergetics ) Buckminster Fuller
Everything that we consider to be reality is really just manipulations of light by antimatter. If you accept that everything is infinite, then you must also accept that nothing is real
Albert Einstein was playing a subtle game of weltanschauungskrieg with the scientific community - and thus with the entire world. Fortunately he seems to be losing the game and the real truth is becoming known. For, you see, Einstein was not as benevolent and benign as propaganda would have us believe. He was an agent of a larger, nefarious agenda, based on control and disinformation. His part was to suppress the deeper forms of physics, like Torsion physics, so as to keep us all in the dark.
I have a strong intuition that you are preaching propaganda for your own personal reality-tunnel configuration. it seems very unlikely to me that what you stated here is reasonable.
@alliant Perhaps you need to educate yourself deeply & widely in order to determine if my assertion is true, rather than relying on an inadequate data base generated for you courtesy of the thick veneer of lies that Big Brother endeavors to imprint upon the subtle neurology of our brains ("education" so called). History has many incongruities and much subterfuge. With that pellucid, don't let your indoctrination get in the way of your education.
Thank your for your courteous reply. It has taken me 14 years of overtime effort to unlearn the wrongness that you likely hold as dear truths. I've unlearned religion in all its forms, and in the process unlearned atheism too. I've unlearned Scientism & scholasticism, and I deprogrammed my deeply ingrained sense of historicity as well. No small feat. Can I - or should I - hand you such matters on a silver platter? Is it worth it to me to give freely what I have paid handsomely for?
Additionally, I frankly would not know where to start. It is not so simple as directing you to a video or article and saying "See? Look here! I told you so." My assertion is an off hand comment on a tiny minutia, originating from a hugely larger perspective based on radically conflicting contextualities than those which are smiled upon by the sundry vested powers-that-be.Without a lot of background data my "proof" would be misinterpreted as too incongruent for easy digestion & acceptance.
Further, I would not know where to start because I do not know you or the chemistry of your mind/history (speaking partially metaphorically). I have learned that learning is not the clear cut assembly line linear one size fits all thing that modern academia would have us believe it is. The Sufis have it right on: Learning is a matter of small batches, each tailored as individually as possible for each person's psychology, in sum - like prescribing medicine. The cure must fit the patient's needs.
Lastly, I don't think I can direct you to evidence that "supports" any of my assertions. Rather, what I would direct you to would (probably, given enough exposure) undermine/re-contextualize & elsewise destabilize the foundations of your world view. But it would also depend on how constricted you are by the reality bubble such as which is piped like raw sewage into people's minds by such vectors as TV, mass media & corporate owned educational facilities such as schools & universities.
I've deprogrammed the majority of the propaganda I've gathered since a child. I was however under the impression that Einstein did a lot of beneficial work for physics. although he did not dig deeper into the "spiritual, holistic, integral" aspects of the cosmos - I assumed that this was due to shortsightedness or lack of experience in such things. I have never heard before the idea that he was aware of the new paradigm, yet participated in the burial of such information.
Also, I am not entirely certain that Einstein was totally conscious of his actions. That of him which was acting in an unconscious programmed manner was the sinister aspect of him that I alluded to. It is quite possible that his otherwise ostensible acts of goodness & altruism were in fact genuine. Humans can be influenced in very subtle ways to perform very specific acts, and all entirely without ever knowing that something even happened or was perpetrated upon them.
@SororThothma Albert Einstein, in my opinion, was not attempting to pull wool over our eyes, as you contend. Rather, he was simply caged within the classical newtonian paradigm, and thus was very wary towards quantum physics and its implications. He was a genius in the pursuit of truth, albeit within the wrong physical ideology. For a person whose intellectual grasp on the physical was based of newtonian mechanics, it's only natural that he would defend them.
@SororThothma Newtonian physics are largely incorrect, however, without it, modern physics would not have developed at all. Therefore, please refrain from insulting an intellectual whose pursuit of knowledge was fruitful, yet slightly misguided.
@indiebandit1 It was not an insult, but rather a cutting down to size - a reminder to the members of the Cult of Science that Herbert was just a man and nothing more.
And to address your observation regarding the essential incorrectness of Newtonian Physics: Without it, had a truer model of physics been allowed to manifest, we would be vastly more advanced than we are today. Those in true power saw to it that Newton's ideas ruled the day, and we've been benighted ever since.
@SororThothma My observation is simply based upon the fact that quantum physics began because of inquiries into the interaction of light with atoms. Had newtonian physics not been developed upon, we would have no concept of particle interaction, which led scientists to modern day quantum mechanics. A "truer model of physics" could not have rationally emerged without the investigations of particle based matter, which is now being rejected due to the inevitable emergence of quantum theory.
@SororThothma I wholeheartedly agree with quantum theory and its implications, it's just that I'm honest when I say without the original, basic inquiries into the reductionist mindset of the newtonian universe, we would not be able to acquire empirical validity for any theories regarding the quantum reality. Please propose an alternative, logical approach to how you would come to the conclusion of quantum theory, without any reference to particle matter, and then I will concede.
@scottbark Again, if you wish to proceed into an intellectual discussion, discuss the matter at hand. NLP has been heavily discredited, but yes, I will admit that particular syntactical grouping was faintly arrogant. My apologies, but if you want to actually discuss the matter of quantum implications and the importance of the Newtonian paradigm, actually comment on the aforesaid topic. Your allusions towards unreliable theories are neither productive nor witty.
@Aleksei5055 Good question. Answer: Think of psychological warfare on a huge scale, touching everything in life. Krieg is German for war. The Nazis waged "total war" on their enemies and victims. The Nazis, using weltanschauungskrieg, waged war against the very essence of the culture/country they were attacking. The Nazis sought to destroy other countries entirely, to erase them completely, and turn them into German colonies. Scary stuff.
@SororThothma So Einstein was waging total war on the scientific community? Or did I mess that up? :( Yea the Nazis were scary. Thank god they were defeated but China scares me more I think.
Well, think of it more as that Einstein was a component of a much greater system, of a much greater machine - as were the Nazis as well - even tho' Einstein was a Jew. The waging of weltanschauungskrieg was something bigger than just the Nazis (they just gave a name to it). Ultimately what it boils down to is a long reaching game of ever greater control - control of natural resources AND intellectual resources; ergo including science and the generally paradigm of our Western knowledge system.
BTW, thank you for asking such good questions - and for doing so in a pleasant manner. You are obviously intelligent.
"Fish don't know they're wet." Are you familiar with that concept? If so, what does it mean to you? What CAN it mean for you? I will give you a hint: Weltanschauungskrieg is an invisible form of aggression. Its great battles are hidden in plain sight.
@SororThothma Thank you for the links, I will watch them and thank you for responding too.
Well, I think it means the fish doesn't know it is wet because that is the environment he grew up in so he don't know any different ? Like so was Einstein using manipliation then? I think it might mean that Einstein was playing Weltanschauungskrieg so that people who were not familiar with the physics world would not know any different.
I think Einstein was used, without his awareness that he was being used. In fact, I think that is true for many people in numerous different fields and walks of life.
This has several parts, and is well worth your time to watch them all. Dr. Joseph P. Farrell is remarkable.
youtube.com/watch?v=kwtPU1tnixM
The Yuri Bezmenov videos will go hand-in-hand with Dr. Farrell's research. Talk about opening one's eyes! I would like to know your thoughts about the vids once you have viewed them.
I watched the videos. So the Germans were way more advanced then us. I didn't know they were that much more advanced. Hitler was a horrible person but the germans are very smart. It seems like all of the great physics people are from Germany. What would have happened if we didn't create the atom bomb first? I think we would all be speaking German right now. Also, if they were so more advanced then how did happen that we beat them to the atom bomb?
Did you watch all the segments? Part One has five segments, and Part Two also has five (maybe six) segments. Dr. Farrell addresses The Bomb and makes a strong case that we did NOT beat them to it. The Nazis used the technology of The Bomb to secretly buy their way out of Germany (for a few select people) via deal made by Hitler's Chief of Staff. The A Bomb was not as important to the Nazis as was The Bell and the technologies it represented.
@SororThothma - I rather doubt there was any kind of "conspiracy" going on as you imply about Einstein. Rather, few scientists would commit themselves to any truths unless they are able to back it up with proven verifiability. Even today science is reluctant to go out on a limb, into the great unknown and state we only know approx. 5% of the known universe(s), the rest is an enigma. For them it's the safer path to follow. (My opinion.)
@SororThothma How can you critize someone who lived so long time ago like that?
It is something that is called evolotion of human consciousness and the nature of an evolotuion is that a truth never exists forever as universal truth but that people that come afterwards will realize that Einstein's thoughts was a product of the consciousness of his time (or even beyond!). Therefore you are a person to prove you know better by working on your own consciousness. And I will not critizize you.
@SororThothma cut off the conspiracy theory. Scientits can get it wrong sometimes. Perhaps Einstein would have approved this philosophical thesis - that the mind choses between many quantum possibilities and hence determines the reality.
This view contains a sort of determinism that I think Eistein was looking for, the only indeterminism comes from the will. There is still physical indeterminism but one can no longer call it random - there is an intuitively appealing explanation behind it.
Are you seriously suggesting that because the Moon is not visible to the naked eye during certain atmospheric conditions that this validates the God hypothesis?
Are you suggesting there is no proof or rational evidence for the existence of your kidneys because you cannot see them? Your logic by default would mean you are forced to accept any human construct however preposterous. For one thing you and I could not have this discourse of the Moon was not there, basic physics....
Kindas makes you wonder how we got here. How did the universe become ordinary when we were not around to observe it for billions of years. Such an arrogant theory and utter clap trap.
Nice! "The world exists, when we don't look at it in some strange state that is indescribable. And then when we look at it becomes absolutely ordinary..... as if someone were trying to pull the wool over our eyes."~ Nick Herbert
@no4urslf Yep and the Moon does not exist till we look at it! Utter tosh. Put a bomb in a room with a timer set for one minute. So can you simply stand outside that room and be safe? I mean the bomb does not exist without an observer, right? As batty as religion and just as dangerous.
You are right of course @BiodegradeableMan , it's you universe you are playing in. It's just that for me I love the infinite possibilities this type of thinking can bring. Don't test the bomb theory......!! On the moon.... if you are not looking at it, can you accurately describe all about it as it is at that moment or does it exist in some strange state that is indescribable? You are right again about it being dangerous..... look what we have created from the tools that we were given!!
@no4urslf We're biological organisms with vanishingly brief lifecycles. However the human animal very often refuses to accept this stark reality and in its hubris wants to claim some mystical magical purpose to its existence. A thousand generations have gone before ours all desperately trying to convince themselves they are pivotal to some 'grand plan'. Who wants to face the factual reality of our predicament? Decrepitude diesease and death await us all in short order and it smarts!
You are absolutely right on the money again @BiodegradeableMan . I guess I will just have to loose all of my knowledge and dissolve into nothing when this body that I am dies. It's not the plan but if what you say is correct, I do not need to care that I was wrong. It just can't hurt to imagine that there is a bigger picture, endowed with rewards and joy, do you think that I have the right to use my imagination as I choose? Yes.... all of that waits for us but there is the journey.
@no4urslf Seek solace in magic if you will but remember its science that enables us to lead at least a tolerable life while it lasts. Praying to imaginary constructs hasn't exactly been successful has it? 10,000 Japanese men women and children were recently wiped out by crude forces and no God stepped in.
@BiodegradeableMan I will seek solace, thank you. I don't know ant magic however and I will also remember your tip as I turn the key in my car, or turn on a light, or take a shower and while it lasts I will be happy, not in every waking moment, we are allowed to be unhappy as well and that is ok. Sorry if you were personally directly affected by the tsunami, it was an extraordinary event. I didn't see God on the broadcast, I guess he had nothing to do with it.
@no4urslf The supernatural/magic call it whatt you need to in order to justify a belief in the absurd. However please remeber faith is the opposite of reason. Faith is the belief in a concept for which no sensory proof or rational evidence exists. I hardly need to remind you what such an illogical premise leads to as history stands witness to it.
@BiodegradeableMan , I rely on science to assist me to believe in the absurd. My faith is has no real value until my death, up till then I am just playing with my world, seeing how good I can make the experience. Faith... it allows me to extend my boundaries of reason. On a bright sunny day faith must allows us to see the moon, there is no sensory proof or rational evidence that it is there but we do not question this. I am a bit confused, I do not pray, worship or follow yet you assume I do?
@BiodegradeableMan You seem to stand out as the one with the most 'hubris'. I'm guessing you're still quite young, with a cursory knowledge of other cultures, specifically Eastern, and virtually none of 'death'.
Research outside you're narrow materalistic view. It'll all reveal itself to you in time anyway.
@carriemaizey If you have any rational evidence to support that statement please produce it as I have zero interest in such arrogant and assumptive postulates.
@carriemaizey You make accusations appertaining to my lack of life experience and 'cursory' knowledge of the subject matter with no attempt to validate said accusations and then baulk at the fact I take exception. If defending oneself against such baseless and childish attacks is to 'have the last word' then get used to it or develop some social skills.
We didn't start until 1986. This is more like 1988. But what he says is pretty much still pertinent -- a succinct philosophical intro to quantum physics.
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THE [ SALEN-GA FLAT EARTH PARADOX ] OF QUANTUM PHYSICS- THE EARTH IS GLOBALLY ROUND TO AN ASTRONAUT AND IS LOCALLY FLAT TO A PEDESTRIAN. A MUCH MORE CLEARER PARADOX THAN SCHRODINGER'S DEAD/LIVE CAT. THE POWERFUL SALENGA PARADOX IS BASED ON HENRI POINCARE'S [ RELATIVITY OF SIMULTANEITY WHICH STATES: " A THING OR PHENOMENA IN NATURE, AND IT'S LOGICAL OPPOSITE ARE BOTH ANTI-LOGICALLY VALID AND TRUE, DEPENDENT UPON A PARTICIPATOR(PHYSICS OBSERVER)EXPERIENCING THE THING OR PHENOMENA".
CONDUIT99PERCENT 2 weeks ago
Metaphysical has been science's designation for all weightless phenomena such as thought. But science has made no experimental finding of any phenomena that can be described as a solid, or as continuous, or as a straight surface plane, or as a straight line, or as infinite anything. We are now synergetically forced to conclude that all phenomena are metaphysical; wherefore, as many have long suspected – like it or not – life is but a dream. ( Synergetics ) Buckminster Fuller
MrDrFallopian 2 months ago
Everything that we consider to be reality is really just manipulations of light by antimatter. If you accept that everything is infinite, then you must also accept that nothing is real
JayMalone 3 months ago
Uncertainty is the basis of quantum physics.... but Im not really sure.
infinitesimotel 4 months ago
Neat vid!
I am an artist trying to promote my theory on the dynamics of light and time.
This theory is based on two postulates
1. Is that the quantum wave particle function represents the forward passage of time itself
2. Is that Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle that is formed by the w- function is the same uncertainty we have with any future event.
This process of continuous change we see and feel as the flow of time itself and can interact with turning the possible into the actual!
nickharvey7 4 months ago
Intro music was written for us by Josef Marc.
ThinkingAllowedTV 4 months ago
So what's the intro song, Plz it's amazing
jangofet555 4 months ago
wow this was awesome thanks
chriskimforlife 5 months ago
Carriemaizey and Biodegradeableman, shut up I'll batter the pair of ye.
roninface 6 months ago
Albert Einstein was playing a subtle game of weltanschauungskrieg with the scientific community - and thus with the entire world. Fortunately he seems to be losing the game and the real truth is becoming known. For, you see, Einstein was not as benevolent and benign as propaganda would have us believe. He was an agent of a larger, nefarious agenda, based on control and disinformation. His part was to suppress the deeper forms of physics, like Torsion physics, so as to keep us all in the dark.
SororThothma 6 months ago 8
@SororThothma
I have a strong intuition that you are preaching propaganda for your own personal reality-tunnel configuration. it seems very unlikely to me that what you stated here is reasonable.
alliant 6 months ago
@alliant Perhaps you need to educate yourself deeply & widely in order to determine if my assertion is true, rather than relying on an inadequate data base generated for you courtesy of the thick veneer of lies that Big Brother endeavors to imprint upon the subtle neurology of our brains ("education" so called). History has many incongruities and much subterfuge. With that pellucid, don't let your indoctrination get in the way of your education.
Caveat: Fish don't know they're wet.
SororThothma 6 months ago 6
@SororThothma
and what if my conclusion was* reached after deep and wide education? no reliance on inadequate data base.
can you point me to evidence that provides support for your assertion?
alliant 6 months ago
Thank your for your courteous reply. It has taken me 14 years of overtime effort to unlearn the wrongness that you likely hold as dear truths. I've unlearned religion in all its forms, and in the process unlearned atheism too. I've unlearned Scientism & scholasticism, and I deprogrammed my deeply ingrained sense of historicity as well. No small feat. Can I - or should I - hand you such matters on a silver platter? Is it worth it to me to give freely what I have paid handsomely for?
SororThothma 6 months ago
Additionally, I frankly would not know where to start. It is not so simple as directing you to a video or article and saying "See? Look here! I told you so." My assertion is an off hand comment on a tiny minutia, originating from a hugely larger perspective based on radically conflicting contextualities than those which are smiled upon by the sundry vested powers-that-be.Without a lot of background data my "proof" would be misinterpreted as too incongruent for easy digestion & acceptance.
SororThothma 6 months ago
Further, I would not know where to start because I do not know you or the chemistry of your mind/history (speaking partially metaphorically). I have learned that learning is not the clear cut assembly line linear one size fits all thing that modern academia would have us believe it is. The Sufis have it right on: Learning is a matter of small batches, each tailored as individually as possible for each person's psychology, in sum - like prescribing medicine. The cure must fit the patient's needs.
SororThothma 6 months ago
Lastly, I don't think I can direct you to evidence that "supports" any of my assertions. Rather, what I would direct you to would (probably, given enough exposure) undermine/re-contextualize & elsewise destabilize the foundations of your world view. But it would also depend on how constricted you are by the reality bubble such as which is piped like raw sewage into people's minds by such vectors as TV, mass media & corporate owned educational facilities such as schools & universities.
SororThothma 6 months ago
@SororThothma
I've deprogrammed the majority of the propaganda I've gathered since a child. I was however under the impression that Einstein did a lot of beneficial work for physics. although he did not dig deeper into the "spiritual, holistic, integral" aspects of the cosmos - I assumed that this was due to shortsightedness or lack of experience in such things. I have never heard before the idea that he was aware of the new paradigm, yet participated in the burial of such information.
alliant 6 months ago
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SororThothma 6 months ago
Also, I am not entirely certain that Einstein was totally conscious of his actions. That of him which was acting in an unconscious programmed manner was the sinister aspect of him that I alluded to. It is quite possible that his otherwise ostensible acts of goodness & altruism were in fact genuine. Humans can be influenced in very subtle ways to perform very specific acts, and all entirely without ever knowing that something even happened or was perpetrated upon them.
SororThothma 6 months ago
@SororThothma I like that, thats a good analogy; fish dont know theyre wet.
infinitesimotel 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
@SororThothma Albert Einstein, in my opinion, was not attempting to pull wool over our eyes, as you contend. Rather, he was simply caged within the classical newtonian paradigm, and thus was very wary towards quantum physics and its implications. He was a genius in the pursuit of truth, albeit within the wrong physical ideology. For a person whose intellectual grasp on the physical was based of newtonian mechanics, it's only natural that he would defend them.
indiebandit1 1 month ago
@SororThothma Newtonian physics are largely incorrect, however, without it, modern physics would not have developed at all. Therefore, please refrain from insulting an intellectual whose pursuit of knowledge was fruitful, yet slightly misguided.
indiebandit1 1 month ago
@indiebandit1 It was not an insult, but rather a cutting down to size - a reminder to the members of the Cult of Science that Herbert was just a man and nothing more.
And to address your observation regarding the essential incorrectness of Newtonian Physics: Without it, had a truer model of physics been allowed to manifest, we would be vastly more advanced than we are today. Those in true power saw to it that Newton's ideas ruled the day, and we've been benighted ever since.
SororThothma 1 month ago
@SororThothma My observation is simply based upon the fact that quantum physics began because of inquiries into the interaction of light with atoms. Had newtonian physics not been developed upon, we would have no concept of particle interaction, which led scientists to modern day quantum mechanics. A "truer model of physics" could not have rationally emerged without the investigations of particle based matter, which is now being rejected due to the inevitable emergence of quantum theory.
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@SororThothma I wholeheartedly agree with quantum theory and its implications, it's just that I'm honest when I say without the original, basic inquiries into the reductionist mindset of the newtonian universe, we would not be able to acquire empirical validity for any theories regarding the quantum reality. Please propose an alternative, logical approach to how you would come to the conclusion of quantum theory, without any reference to particle matter, and then I will concede.
indiebandit1 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@indiebandit1 "it's just that I'm honest when I say..."....are you deliberately using NLP or have you become inadvertently conditioned?
scottbark 1 month ago
@scottbark Again, if you wish to proceed into an intellectual discussion, discuss the matter at hand. NLP has been heavily discredited, but yes, I will admit that particular syntactical grouping was faintly arrogant. My apologies, but if you want to actually discuss the matter of quantum implications and the importance of the Newtonian paradigm, actually comment on the aforesaid topic. Your allusions towards unreliable theories are neither productive nor witty.
indiebandit1 1 month ago
@SororThothma what is weltanschauungskrieg?
Aleksei5055 6 months ago
@Aleksei5055 Good question. Answer: Think of psychological warfare on a huge scale, touching everything in life. Krieg is German for war. The Nazis waged "total war" on their enemies and victims. The Nazis, using weltanschauungskrieg, waged war against the very essence of the culture/country they were attacking. The Nazis sought to destroy other countries entirely, to erase them completely, and turn them into German colonies. Scary stuff.
SororThothma 6 months ago
@SororThothma So Einstein was waging total war on the scientific community? Or did I mess that up? :( Yea the Nazis were scary. Thank god they were defeated but China scares me more I think.
Aleksei5055 6 months ago
Well, think of it more as that Einstein was a component of a much greater system, of a much greater machine - as were the Nazis as well - even tho' Einstein was a Jew. The waging of weltanschauungskrieg was something bigger than just the Nazis (they just gave a name to it). Ultimately what it boils down to is a long reaching game of ever greater control - control of natural resources AND intellectual resources; ergo including science and the generally paradigm of our Western knowledge system.
SororThothma 6 months ago
BTW, thank you for asking such good questions - and for doing so in a pleasant manner. You are obviously intelligent.
"Fish don't know they're wet." Are you familiar with that concept? If so, what does it mean to you? What CAN it mean for you? I will give you a hint: Weltanschauungskrieg is an invisible form of aggression. Its great battles are hidden in plain sight.
Yuri Benmenov (several parts each)
youtube.com/watch?v=JN0By0xbst8&feature=related
youtube.com/watch?v=CLsi0Ialvxk
SororThothma 6 months ago
@SororThothma Thank you for the links, I will watch them and thank you for responding too.
Well, I think it means the fish doesn't know it is wet because that is the environment he grew up in so he don't know any different ? Like so was Einstein using manipliation then? I think it might mean that Einstein was playing Weltanschauungskrieg so that people who were not familiar with the physics world would not know any different.
I think ... I mean I am not sure. Am I right?
Aleksei5055 6 months ago
I think Einstein was used, without his awareness that he was being used. In fact, I think that is true for many people in numerous different fields and walks of life.
This has several parts, and is well worth your time to watch them all. Dr. Joseph P. Farrell is remarkable.
youtube.com/watch?v=kwtPU1tnixM
The Yuri Bezmenov videos will go hand-in-hand with Dr. Farrell's research. Talk about opening one's eyes! I would like to know your thoughts about the vids once you have viewed them.
SororThothma 6 months ago
@SororThothma Hi,
I watched the videos. So the Germans were way more advanced then us. I didn't know they were that much more advanced. Hitler was a horrible person but the germans are very smart. It seems like all of the great physics people are from Germany. What would have happened if we didn't create the atom bomb first? I think we would all be speaking German right now. Also, if they were so more advanced then how did happen that we beat them to the atom bomb?
Aleksei5055 6 months ago
Did you watch all the segments? Part One has five segments, and Part Two also has five (maybe six) segments. Dr. Farrell addresses The Bomb and makes a strong case that we did NOT beat them to it. The Nazis used the technology of The Bomb to secretly buy their way out of Germany (for a few select people) via deal made by Hitler's Chief of Staff. The A Bomb was not as important to the Nazis as was The Bell and the technologies it represented.
SororThothma 6 months ago
@SororThothma I am on the Bell part right now... Hitler died tho... ok wait tho, so how was Einstein being used and why... I still don't get it :(
Aleksei5055 6 months ago
@SororThothma - I rather doubt there was any kind of "conspiracy" going on as you imply about Einstein. Rather, few scientists would commit themselves to any truths unless they are able to back it up with proven verifiability. Even today science is reluctant to go out on a limb, into the great unknown and state we only know approx. 5% of the known universe(s), the rest is an enigma. For them it's the safer path to follow. (My opinion.)
goldie0800 3 months ago
@SororThothma How can you critize someone who lived so long time ago like that?
It is something that is called evolotion of human consciousness and the nature of an evolotuion is that a truth never exists forever as universal truth but that people that come afterwards will realize that Einstein's thoughts was a product of the consciousness of his time (or even beyond!). Therefore you are a person to prove you know better by working on your own consciousness. And I will not critizize you.
GrovMan2 3 months ago
@SororThothma cut off the conspiracy theory. Scientits can get it wrong sometimes. Perhaps Einstein would have approved this philosophical thesis - that the mind choses between many quantum possibilities and hence determines the reality.
This view contains a sort of determinism that I think Eistein was looking for, the only indeterminism comes from the will. There is still physical indeterminism but one can no longer call it random - there is an intuitively appealing explanation behind it.
setnoset 3 days ago
With America being as it is today, with thinking & intelligence being a faux pas, Jeffrey Mishlove deserves a medal.
SororThothma 6 months ago
Nick Herbert reminds me a lot of David Bohm. unlike Einstein, these guys didnt mind exploring theories outside their comfort zone.
Karlemids 9 months ago 2
Are you seriously suggesting that because the Moon is not visible to the naked eye during certain atmospheric conditions that this validates the God hypothesis?
Are you suggesting there is no proof or rational evidence for the existence of your kidneys because you cannot see them? Your logic by default would mean you are forced to accept any human construct however preposterous. For one thing you and I could not have this discourse of the Moon was not there, basic physics....
BiodegradeableMan 11 months ago
Kindas makes you wonder how we got here. How did the universe become ordinary when we were not around to observe it for billions of years. Such an arrogant theory and utter clap trap.
BiodegradeableMan 11 months ago
@BiodegradeableMan Ordinary?
no4urslf 11 months ago
Nice! "The world exists, when we don't look at it in some strange state that is indescribable. And then when we look at it becomes absolutely ordinary..... as if someone were trying to pull the wool over our eyes."~ Nick Herbert
no4urslf 1 year ago
@no4urslf Yep and the Moon does not exist till we look at it! Utter tosh. Put a bomb in a room with a timer set for one minute. So can you simply stand outside that room and be safe? I mean the bomb does not exist without an observer, right? As batty as religion and just as dangerous.
BiodegradeableMan 11 months ago
You are right of course @BiodegradeableMan , it's you universe you are playing in. It's just that for me I love the infinite possibilities this type of thinking can bring. Don't test the bomb theory......!! On the moon.... if you are not looking at it, can you accurately describe all about it as it is at that moment or does it exist in some strange state that is indescribable? You are right again about it being dangerous..... look what we have created from the tools that we were given!!
no4urslf 11 months ago
@no4urslf We're biological organisms with vanishingly brief lifecycles. However the human animal very often refuses to accept this stark reality and in its hubris wants to claim some mystical magical purpose to its existence. A thousand generations have gone before ours all desperately trying to convince themselves they are pivotal to some 'grand plan'. Who wants to face the factual reality of our predicament? Decrepitude diesease and death await us all in short order and it smarts!
BiodegradeableMan 11 months ago
You are absolutely right on the money again @BiodegradeableMan . I guess I will just have to loose all of my knowledge and dissolve into nothing when this body that I am dies. It's not the plan but if what you say is correct, I do not need to care that I was wrong. It just can't hurt to imagine that there is a bigger picture, endowed with rewards and joy, do you think that I have the right to use my imagination as I choose? Yes.... all of that waits for us but there is the journey.
no4urslf 11 months ago
@no4urslf Seek solace in magic if you will but remember its science that enables us to lead at least a tolerable life while it lasts. Praying to imaginary constructs hasn't exactly been successful has it? 10,000 Japanese men women and children were recently wiped out by crude forces and no God stepped in.
BiodegradeableMan 11 months ago
@BiodegradeableMan I will seek solace, thank you. I don't know ant magic however and I will also remember your tip as I turn the key in my car, or turn on a light, or take a shower and while it lasts I will be happy, not in every waking moment, we are allowed to be unhappy as well and that is ok. Sorry if you were personally directly affected by the tsunami, it was an extraordinary event. I didn't see God on the broadcast, I guess he had nothing to do with it.
no4urslf 11 months ago
@no4urslf The supernatural/magic call it whatt you need to in order to justify a belief in the absurd. However please remeber faith is the opposite of reason. Faith is the belief in a concept for which no sensory proof or rational evidence exists. I hardly need to remind you what such an illogical premise leads to as history stands witness to it.
BiodegradeableMan 11 months ago
@BiodegradeableMan , I rely on science to assist me to believe in the absurd. My faith is has no real value until my death, up till then I am just playing with my world, seeing how good I can make the experience. Faith... it allows me to extend my boundaries of reason. On a bright sunny day faith must allows us to see the moon, there is no sensory proof or rational evidence that it is there but we do not question this. I am a bit confused, I do not pray, worship or follow yet you assume I do?
no4urslf 11 months ago
@BiodegradeableMan You seem to stand out as the one with the most 'hubris'. I'm guessing you're still quite young, with a cursory knowledge of other cultures, specifically Eastern, and virtually none of 'death'.
Research outside you're narrow materalistic view. It'll all reveal itself to you in time anyway.
carriemaizey 8 months ago
@carriemaizey Wrong on both counts I'm afraid, thats the problem with guessing.
BiodegradeableMan 8 months ago
@BiodegradeableMan You are so in for the shock of your life/death.
carriemaizey 8 months ago
@carriemaizey If you have any rational evidence to support that statement please produce it as I have zero interest in such arrogant and assumptive postulates.
BiodegradeableMan 8 months ago
@BiodegradeableMan Pretentious Arrogant Prick :)
carriemaizey 7 months ago
@carriemaizey Yes what a monster I am asking you to substantiate your accusations!
BiodegradeableMan 7 months ago
@BiodegradeableMan Oh okay. I can see you're used to having the last word. Go on then :D
carriemaizey 7 months ago
@carriemaizey You make accusations appertaining to my lack of life experience and 'cursory' knowledge of the subject matter with no attempt to validate said accusations and then baulk at the fact I take exception. If defending oneself against such baseless and childish attacks is to 'have the last word' then get used to it or develop some social skills.
BiodegradeableMan 7 months ago
We didn't start until 1986. This is more like 1988. But what he says is pretty much still pertinent -- a succinct philosophical intro to quantum physics.
ThinkingAllowedTV 1 year ago 2
@ThinkingAllowedTV Agreed. The information is still fresh.
Manwithcam 1 year ago
Vnice vid, but looks like 1970's :D
vulcanus30 1 year ago