"Discrimination on the Baha'is in Iran continues" Dr. Barati

[jorj119]

ESLAM;AKHARIN DIN NIST , KHATAMOLNABIEEN; yaani KHATME nabi, Hazrate Mohammad, Rasoul boodand, wa Dar Ayeh Nemigooyand, Khatamon Rosool ,ba Ayaehaye digar maaloom mishawad, ke Khodawand Hamisheh Payambarani khhad ferestad, (Dasthaye Khoda baz hast) inra Ghoran migooyad, Eshtebahe Kalimiha wa Masihihara nakonid, Tahghig konid,

[KhameneiVoter]

Who is this fake?? an exil iranian with no information about the true actual situation in Iran. He likes to have a nice candle light diner with shirin Ebadi. The Berlin bitch with thousands of lovers!

[bigtdriver]

khosh behalet hanooz moo dari

[IamJacksColon4]

HAHA never have i ever heard a more vile set of lies.

[markbeezwax]

Please do not confuse the spiritual Baha'i new world order with the undoubted threat from a manmade Godless new world order.

[valerienanh]

When we come into our kingdom it will be undesirable for us that there should exist any other religion than ours& our position as the Chosen People. We must sweep away all other forms of belief. If this gives birth to the atheists, it will not interfere with OUR OWN views its stable & thoroughly elaborated system has brought all the peoples of the world into subjection (slaves) to us.

-Protocols of Zion

BAHAI FAITH DILUTES THE RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD TO FULFILL ZIONIST ILLUMITATI GOALS

[markbeezwax]

Hi Valerie i must point out that any Baha'i's i have known including people from Africa,Iran,Ireland,England,Ne­w Zealand of all ages and various religious backgrounds,Zoroastrian,Muslim­,Catholic,Protestant, Jew are some of most respectful,loving,gentle people i have ever known.From what i have learnt [and continue to learn]about the Baha'i faith is that it is a shining light and hope for humanity .

[valerienanh]

mark-

i'm not pointing the finger at the followers of the bahai faith- im certain they are fantastic people. Nonetheless, my problem is with the underlying political movement. It is not a coincidence that the 19th century bahai faith's goals are so perfectly in line with the New World Order aims.

[masudrules]

What do you mean by a "political movement"?

There are huge differences between the NWO and our goals; we don't believe in a totalitarian world government, nor that said government would replace checks and balances.

A crucial issue in the Illuminati conspiracy theory is that those in power want to systematically increase the wealth gap between the rich and the poor while increasing the power of the rich and decreasing the power of the poor. (i.e. neofeudalism)

Baha'is clearly reject this.

[bananito2]

Ok dimwit now i have some time

First of all the buzz this stupid fake movement with political NWO agenda under the table is doing, that buzz, is the plain evidence trying to destabilize Iran leadership. If that leadership falls, who will control Iran, of course, a NWO political whore who will claim "we are a democracy now" "we have freedom of speech" as long as they mantain a new police state now in Iran. So bahais, or baha suck my balls. Now go learn some hebrew to talk to your masters, pet.

[masudrules]

You have absolutely no proof for any of the ridiculous assertions you've made; any sentient human being who knows something about the issue understands that Baha'is have no interest in the government of Iran.

It's the people who are trying to destabilize Iranian leadership, because they're fed up with its totalitarian, repressive policies.

But you do seem to be a good mouthpiece for the regime. Why don't you go there? See if you can enjoy the freedom of speech you're benefiting from now.

[duckotaco]

@masudrules bullshit. You sound like a bahai troll. First time I see one, because as you say bahais are loving and respectful, the only good thing they have.

The baha'i agenda is no more no less than a new BAHA'I world order, where the universla house of justice is the leader of the WORLD. Therefore, it is not true that the bahai faith has no temporal or political agenda.

Taking freedom of speech out of your stupid mouth would be indeed very positive. May the regime rule your ass

[masudrules]

@duckotaco Save your ad hominem for someone that's interested in playing your childish game; as to your substantive assertion, my comment was made in the context of dismissing any political loyalties Baha'is may have; and you've proved my point: there is currently no political regime that supports the Baha'i World Order, hence the lack of political loyalties! Sure, our Faith contains predictions about the future world order, but that has nothing to do with current one.

[duckotaco]

@masudrules We all know how much the universal house of justice is involved with NON governamental institutions. But what is the difference? Isn't the united nation a political institution of the west? Doesn't it rapresent THE WEST? My point is, the universal house of justice has FAITH and BELIEF that it will one day have temporal power, so it's obviously playing a POLITICAL game that it thinks (not necessarely will) will pave the ground for that purpose of world domination.

[masudrules]

@duckotaco 1. The UN is what its members make of it; in twenty years it may be a political tool of China. What silly excuse are you going to provide then? Or is your reasoning as fickle and opportunistic as the Iranian Governments'? First we were spies for the Russians, then the British, then the Americans, then the Israelis. How convenient...

2. You do know that the UN is NOT an NGO, right?

3. "Domination" implies the use of force; can you provide a scintilla of evidence for that?

[duckotaco]

@masudrules dom·i·na·tion (d m -n sh n). n. 1. a. Control or power over another or others. b. The exercise of such control or power.

according to dictionary it does not imply use of force. One can dominate peacefully. The UHJ seeks to dominate peacefully. No fuckin moron uses violence with no reason. People use war and violence only when deemed necessary. the UHJ so far hasn't deemed it so. Doesn't mean they dont look for a world governement where THEY rule. I don't want this to be.

[masudrules]

@duckotaco You're trying to obfuscate the issue with semantics, so I won't engage you further on that point. haha yes, the reason the UHJ, (with all the invincible armies around the world that it controls...) hasn't used violence is because it doesn't deem it necessary. That's hilarious. Anyways, your understanding of Baha'i Administration is too warped for me to have an intellectually rigorous discussion with you and you're a paranoid reactionary. Peace!

[duckotaco]

@masudrules you are paranoid, not me. I haven't said the UHJ controls armies. You said so. You are paranoid, and I'm not. I am free, and you're a slave. This is the truth. I don't give a shit what you think or say. I only care what I think or say. You have no idea what an intellectual rigosour conversation is, this is obvious. Typical twisted mediocre mind who's getting nowhere. But I'm not here to convince you...but to tell you to FUCK OFF.

[masudrules]

@duckotaco "I don't give a shit what you think or say. I only care what I think or say"

Thank you for showing readers EXACTLY how the mind of an authoritarian person works; you talked about domination? You've just displayed it beautifully! Thank you so much for showing the world the mentality that has caused so many deaths in the world; from the Jews in Germany to Baha'is in Iran and many others.

Again, I'm glad you said that because sunlight is the best disinfectant.

[duckotaco]

@masudrules yeah, it's also the mentality of true artists and rockstars - Sid Vicious for example. What do you know of art and culture. Nothing. You like rap and r'n'b like all baha'is. The music of analphabet retards.

I never said domination in itself WRONG, you are too quick to judge and think you got it all. Learn to be unassuming. I again repeat, two things are sure in life: that we will all die one day, and that you don't possess the truth.

This is my last one, bye.

[masudrules]

@duckotaco 1. To compare yourself with the legendary Sid Vicious is...well...vicious.

2. You've just insulted a huge group of rap and R & B fans (to which, by the way, Mr. "you've gotta be unassuming" I DON'T belong to)

3. I find it hilarious that, in trying to paint that group as illiterate, you proved yourself to be the same (by using the non-existent word "analphabet")

4. if you're not afraid of domination, what's the problem? Stop protesting against it then.

[duckotaco]

@masudrules I'm not protesting, I'm just saying, THE BAHAI FAITH IF IT STAYS AS IT IS, with believers such like you, WILL FAIL. Bye.

Your'e a fuckin troll, I hate you, I think you're a retard, I think you're an idiot, and I ask you please to die. You make me vomit. Goodbye. THIS IS MY LAST ONE RETARD. I DON'T READ YOUR ANSWER. You are a mediocre fuck as I am not. FUCK YOU, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOU, I don't want to be like you. YOU ARE WRONG.

[masudrules]

@duckotaco If you think we will fail then there's nothing to worry about, which means you don't need to spew that ignorant line about iluminati and NWO.

But once again, I'm glad you posted that drivel, so that people see to what insulting level you've stooped once your arguments were refuted; JUST like the Iranian Mullahs, you've decided to crush what you don't understand instead of being open-minded (unfortunately that seems to mean a lot of crushing...)

[duckotaco]

@masudrules or to be honest, I'm not sure if they want to rule, albeit probably it is so. But they want a world governement. And I disagree with that too. I don't want a world governement. I like locality. I like small communities with no central big brain. That only resembles Big Brother to me. I dislike Big Brothers and unnecessary authority.

[duckotaco]

@duckotaco and that's how FREE people think. They dislike authority. But people who like comfort and don't like to explore and understand things on their own in perfect honesty, they like somebody else to tell them what to do and what to think.

Most intellectuals and artists have left the baha'i faith especially since the ridiculous Ruhi course. Either individual thinking is WRONG, as the UHJ says, or the UHJ is. I think the UHJ is wrong and individual thinking is key to justice

[duckotaco]

@masudrules my prediction is that in the war between iran and US that is nearing, the haifa gardens and bahai world centre are in severe danger, and that, even though I have an affection for them since I grew up looking at them with respect, and I even participated to their opening, is not too much of a bad thing. It will open the eyes of the bahais, make them less fanatical and less deluded that they are "the elected people", a very unenlightened belief. We'll see what will happen.

[masudrules]

Iran is CURRENTLY a police state, in case you haven't noticed

[bananito2]

Just like USA and Israel, but unlike these hypocrite govs they are not perpetrating an arab holocaust.

[masudrules]

No, Israel and the USA aren't police states...you can voice your opinion without getting jailed, if you're a woman you don't have to be invisible to men and you can profess any religion you want without being executed; these things aren't possible in Iran; oh and the "Arab holocaust" is being perpetrated by suicide bombers and other vile Bin-Ladinist Islamofascists, a minority of Muslims who have tried to hijack true Islam.

[bananito2]

"you can voice your opinion without getting jailed"

or killed like luther king, the students of the Kent State massacre killed by the US militar 1970, like JFK (tried to return america to americans from the zionist dirty hands), like President Rabi( for trying to negotiate with Palestina). Dude you just prove you are either retarded or a biased sellout supporting this foreign intromissions. And it is Arab Holocaust, like Gazan holocaust perpetrated by your Zionist employers.

[masudrules]

Ah yes, events around forty-years ago, VERY scientific bananito...even BEFORE the Iranian Revolution lol...that's how far you have to go to try to refute my argument?? 40 years ago?? I never said I supported these foreign INTERVENTIONS, I simply stated the fact that Islamofascists are trying to destroy civilized society as a response to your easily obtained but meaningless defamatory "Gaza holocaust" drivel, not that intervention is the way to stop them; there are advantages and drawbacks

[masudrules]

I find it interesting that YOU are calling me a biased sellout...your provide no evidence for any of your claims, you make specious arguments (like baselessly tying us to "Zionism" a very ill-defined term) that reflect either utter ignorance or malicious intent. Either way you can't be taken seriously, just as those who make those arguments aren't; the more cerebra contributions from Muslim scholars such as Hamza Yusuf are taken seriously, not the garbage you're spouting.

[bananito2]

"your provide no evidence for any of your claims"

it is not "your" its "you", are you nervous or what fat bastard? did i catch you spreading your lies?

And you may be blind too. Evidence: Kent State massacre, President Rabi assassination, i mean i am not going to do your work. These are historical facts documented and broadcast even by the mainstream media showing US and Israel are police states with fascists on power.

[masudrules]

Should I point out all the spelling mistakes (and not typos) that you've made in your posts?? Who's "nervous" now??

Those are isolated incidents; they are exceptions, whereas in Iran, restriction of free speech is the norm. The proof lies in the fact that to back up your statements you had to go back 40 years!!  But don't worry, I understand it's easier not to have to reason...just spout the party line, right? And always find the blame elsewhere

[bananito2]

Historical facts is what you need to look at.Plz make you fatass a favor, stop your fake faith and start reading factual history. USA has no exceptions but rules, if any president tries to do what is best for the americans, he is going to be killed soon or later. If he ever talk about what is going on under the hood, he is going to be killed. And of course your concept of "freedom of speech " is= some demagogue with foreign political intentions poluting a solid society for their detriment.

[masudrules]

Yes, since FOUR presidents have been killed in office (Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy) that means that ANY president who tells the truth will be killed; what a great theory.

For someone who admires Hugo Chavez to call Iran a "solid society" is hilarious...you obviously know nothing about Iran, except that Khomeini was the Ayatollah, and since he was anti-American you like him, and since Ahmadinejad is a holocaust denier like yourself, you like him as well (talk about being a sell-out...)

[masudrules]

No, for any sentient, intelligent human being, "freedom of speech" is the ability to voice one's opinion without being censored by the state or any other entity (except in the case of hate-speech)

We have no political intentions, foreign or otherwise. You keep on propagating that lie with no evidence, except some pathetic arguments about freemasonry and links to the conveniently vague NWO and Illuminati movements, or the 19th century Britain argument, which most historians have debunked.

[mirimiripipim]

@masudrules

Thats not freedom of speech either, as there's no firm definition of hate speech and the government or whatever or authority entity could easily manipulate this key in their favor, silencing what they dont like. Truth is there's no freedom of speech. Speak of gay rights in middle East and you get stoned, speak of legalized child pornography in US, and you get lynched. Im not saying its bad, but necessary, as if theres no control, ppl do shit and civilization starts walking backwards

[masudrules]

@mirimiripipim I agree with you that authorities can manipulate hate speech in their favor (in fact this has taken place on several occassions all around the world) but that is also the case with any law. Does that mean that we can't have any laws because they can all be manipulated by the government? I don't think so, because as you said, there would be no control.

But I don't understand what you're referring to when you say "I'm not saying it's bad".

[masudrules]

Or just do what the adherents of the "Socialismo del siglo XXI" do when it's pointed out that they (Chavez, Morales, et al) are squelching freedom of speech: "look, the USA does it too!!!"

Such childish responses shouldn't be taken seriously...

[Butterflyonocean]

Islam makes me sick to my stomach. The dirtiest religion on earth!!!!!!!

[valerienanh]

Bahai began as a British influenced rebel group against Iran. It was founded in 19th century.

How do you expect Iran to recognize them?

[Butterflyonocean]

Professor could you please bring up some evidence?

[valerienanh]

1. in order to understand the connection between the west & the fabricated Bahai faith- you must understand the meaning of the word zionism.

2. Jewish Israeli Zionist who do not even recognize the rights of genitles (non-jews) have not only allowed the Headquarters of the Bahai faith to be centered in Israel, but also recognize them as "org" which exempts them from taxes. Must be a win-win situation.

3. refer to the book "Confessions of a British Spy"

[Butterflyonocean]

Bullshit...... Go read the history. Isreal has been created in only last few decades, 160 years ago, it was under the oatman empire, at that time nothing existed as ISRAEL. Muhamad copied islam from jewish religion, go read turat and quaran, 90% copied.....

[valerienanh]

it seems to me that you are trash talking islam and promoting judaism?? Are you jewish or bahai?

isn't bahai faith a spin off Islam? wasn't bahaiullah "that mahdi"?

[Butterflyonocean]

For all I know Bahais do not participate in politicas and unlike muslems they are peaceful people. More and more people in Iran have started turning away from Islam. Your islamic government is the real made in England one, go read some books about how an unedeucated, lier, bastard called khomeini has destroyed your country and how today iranian women are sold to Arabs, who wont even recongize you as muslems. I am sorry buty Islam and people like you are real disgrace to Iran and humanity.

[valerienanh]

Participating in politics is a bad thing? Why the hell don't they participate in politics- what is the whole world was bahai.. then what? NO LAWS? NO CONGRESS? NO SENATE?

My country? Im not Iranian you idiot! Khomeini just gave Iran the freedom it deserve- finally free from the filthy west and zionism.

Iranian women are sold to arabs?? seems to me that you are a brainwashed fool- and just making up your own news.

BAHAI FAITH WAS FOUNDED BY BRITAIN- YOU MASONIC TEMPLE IS IN HAIFA ISRAEL

[Butterflyonocean]

I dont know who the hell you are and where you come from. You seem like a brainwshed person. Iranians hate Islam and are turning away from it. Khomeini gave freedom to people? You are an asshole to think that way. What kind of drugs are you on? Go do some research before you open your mouth. You are a joke man...

[valerienanh]

1. Iranians hate islam? THIS IS FALSE

based on you language I can see that you need your brain WASHED from the filth put in it

2. BAHAI religion has not brought any new RELIGIOUS message- IT JUST DILUTES OTHER RELIGIONS- & feeds on them like a parasite:

BAHAIULLAH:

"Lets make a new religion to dilute other religions". READ PROTOCOLS OF ZION. this is the key- dilute other religions, but we (the jews) will maintain ours

you are just a tool of zionism & u dont even know it

[Butterflyonocean]

My time is more precious than responding to someone who lives in 1400 years ago. For all I know thank god Islam is destroying itself. Muslems are trrorists, they talk bullshit and cant even get along with any other religion. You people just want to convert everyone to Islam. People of Iran support Israel, thats why we hate arabs and Islam. Islam has only brought shame out country. We are ashamed of being associated with Islam thats why more than ever we are turning to other religions.

[valerienanh]

1. what are you talking about??- are you aware that islam is the fastest growing religion in the world?

2. can't get along with other religions? Name one place in the world-other than USA supported "Wahabists" & see if you can defend you point... i can provide counter argument.

3.take off your BIAS GLASSES & you will see-btw im not muslim-but im smart enough to know that BAHAI, WAHABBI, MORMONS were all created by the same superpower to weaken the blind & @ same time period . OPEN UR EYES

[masudrules]

You've given no proof that the Baha'i Faith was created by a superpower, except a weak argument about the language in a Tablet written to Queen Victoria (which is probably the only Tablet you've read)

Any other evidence? Or are you going to change the subject again?

[Kaath9]

I have been a Baha'i for over 30 years. I had been raised a Christian and became a Baha'i after extended search of both scriptural and historical sources.

Your contention that the Faith was constructed by a superpower (of which there were none at the time), is unsupportable.

I should also note that through Baha'u'llah, I came to believe in Muhammad and the sacredness of Islam.

Peace to you, and God's love, valerienahn.

[Butterflyonocean]

I have no doubt you are a muslem, from the wayt you protect islam. If you are not, go read the other side of the story, not only what muslems want you to know. For one thing muslems attacked other countries to convert them to islam, example? Iran, Egypt, Spain, etc. Yes they dont get along with other religions, wars with christians, jewishs, zorostrians, Shias killing sunnis and visa versa, REAL PEACEFUL religion, oh goody we should all become muslems and save oursleves.

[valerienanh]

what point are you refuting?

19th century?

against iran?

british influence?

i think all three points are clear... if you still need reference please tell me.

[duckotaco]

@valerienanh unfortunately the prohibition for bahais to get involved in politics means that they are mostly ignorant about the ways of the world and politics, overprotected in that illusory shell. Therefore most of their statements show a lack of knowledge of the movements of the world. It's serious stuff; VERY orwellian. I used to be like them. Then...

[valerienanh]

The Bahá'í Faith is a monotheistic religion founded by Bahá'u'lláh in nineteenth-century Persia.

[fctchk]

Being subject to all this persecution you would expect Bahais to know not to discriminate against gays and lesbians and declare homosexuality an "Immorality", "spiritually condemned in the writings of Baha'u'llah," "not a permissible way of life..."

"a distortion of his or her nature which should be controlled and overcome". An "aberration subject to treatment" and, "If the individual fails to rectify his conduct in spite of repeated warnings, have sanctions imposed on him/her".

[bananito2]

would you as a citizen sacrifice your country´s sovereignity just by letting some fake group that supossedly preach ancient religion if also spread the word from a foreign country that want to enslave you and your land ?

[rebrat90]

but thats not the case here

[bananito2]

here where

USA-Iran-Israel

[masudrules]

How would Iran be sacrificing its sovereignty?

The Baha'i Faith is not from a foreign country; it's from Iran. And how would we be "enslaving you and your land"?

[bananito2]

YEah just like the Georgia political party creating a mess in Georgian territory

They are georgian sellouts but their bosses and interests are not Georgian

[masudrules]

I see; as expected you're using the old, pathetic "Baha'is are spies for Israel" argument.

Give me one piece of evidence to back that up.

And you still haven't answered how Iran's sovereignty is at stake because of the Baha'is

[valerienanh]

it is from a foreign country- its from 19th century Britain

[Bahramerad]

Man ham Bahaie hastam... Marg Bar Non-Islamic Non-Republic Non-Iranian Fascist Mullahs of Ghom, Mashaad and Tehran.

[ZYahood]

Quran also says that Mohammad is the last prophet! So where does this put your prophet "Bahaodin" in? British made a few mistakes because they were in a rush!

[rebrat90]

the quran said that mohammad is the latest prophet of prophecy...not the last prophet period...

[Wisdombluetooth]

This person is an Idiot,you are wasting your time, I bet your he does not know anything about the book he claims to have a religion from..they are just like a farty ass mouth, talks fart with no meaning from a gassed up brain

[Wisdombluetooth]

let us say my neigbhour is worshiping monkeys daily what should i do kill him rape his daughters?? put my sword on his neck and tell him to become something else??or should I wear an explosive belt and kill the whole building?? with terrorism?? british?? what british?/ you seem to be confused why dont you ask your father maybe the british are involved in your presence on this earth too you idiot

[masudrules]

Prophet in Arabic is "Nabi" and apostle is a "Rasul".

The passage you're referring to (The Confederates, 33:40, Rodwell Translation) mentions the word Nabi, NOT Rasul. And it makes sense; Baha'u'llah didn't make many Prophecies; rather, He fulfilled them.

[valerienanh]

Bahai'ullah = ZIONIST free mason from 19th century

Bahai Temple = Haifa, Israel

Bahai faith = hatred & zionism gift wrapped in a peace sign

[masudrules]

Any proof for Baha'u'llah being a free mason? Or is it the usual laughable pathetic trash that comes out of ignorant people's mouths'?

Yes, our Baha'i Temple is in Haifa, because our Prophet died there when it was PALESTINE, during the Ottoman Empire, so it has nothing to do with Israel.

And where is the hatred in the Baha'i Faith? I only see hatred in your words.

[valerienanh]

1. Listing community charity that are sponsored by Bahais does not make them less zionists. Owning the right & left is a game played by many people in power

A lot of anti-war organization are run by zionists. Top leaders of environmentalist movements are zionists

2."Unite all the peoples of the world"? Chrsitianity goes against Judaism & vice versa-how do you unite them?

3.Its just a new faith to add to the collection-Except this one has no prophet. Simply feeds on others like a parasite

[masudrules]

I don't know who you're responding to, but I never brought up any of those points; re-read my comment.

I contended that your assertion about Baha'is serving Israeli interests is false, as the reason behind our presence in Israel dates back to before the creation of the state of Israel.

And you haven't provided any evidence for your argument that the Baha'i Faith started in Britain.

[valerienanh]

A MESSENGER SPEAKS LIKE THIS TO A MONARCH??? Do you know who he was writting to? Look at the language-

'O Queen in London!' He writes: 'Lay aside thy desire, and set then thine heart towards thy Lord, the Ancient of Days. We make mention of thee for the sake of God, and desire that thy name may be exalted through thy remembrance of God, the Creator of earth and heaven.

[masudrules]

Again, you still haven't responded to the argument about Israel.

Yes, that's how he speaks to the monarch. Have you read how he speaks to the other leaders of the world at the time? Not very differently.

Your arguments are weak.

[valerienanh]

Bahais quickly found themselves disliked in Persia for their extremism. In 1852, a Bahai leader was arrested for attempted assassination of Shah of Persia, after which the movement was suppressed & many members were exiled to Baghdad & Istanbul. Robert Dreyfuss reports, the Bahai leaders maintained close ties to both Scottish Rite Freemasonry & various movements that began to proliferate in India, Ottoman Empire, Russia & Africa

-Terrorism and the Illuminati

David Livingstone

[masudrules]

First of all, it wasn't a Baha'i leader who was arrested, just a Baha'i. Secondly, the Iranian authorities have never cited that as the reason they persecute Baha'is.

And Dreyfuss didn't know what he was talkin about, he's not an academic, he's a freelance journalist.

[valerienanh]

The SIX arrested WERE in the bahai leadership. But who cares... The major issue is the connections of bahai leaders to the illuminati & New World Order.

No that's not the only reason they are not regonized in Iran... you want more reasons?

"Iran charges 7 members of Baha'i faith with spying for Israel"

-Haaretz israeli newspaper

And many more reasons- I believe that the underlying reason is the NWO motives. & btw the ordinary bahai followers are completely un aware of these issues.

[masudrules]

"Iran charges 7 members of Baha'i faith with spying for Israel"

That ridiculous assertion has already been debunked many times, including in one of my previous posts. If our Prophet were to have died in what is now the Federal Republic of Germany you probably would have called us Nazis.

That the NWO motives arguably might contain some similarities with the Baha'i World Order means nothing. We also share precepts with Zoroastrians, Muslims, and Christians, et al.

So what??

[duckotaco]

@valerienanh you are correct. I am an ex bahai. I come from a bahai family.

the baha'i faith has its headquarters in haifa, israel. We all know how much Ahmaninejad hates Israel, for the reasonable question of Israel playing shit with the entire planet.

The baha'i faith OBVIOUSLY can't have respect in Iran, since it is very much friends with Israel.

The baha'i faith is iranian and makes its headquarters in Israel. Amazing. Politically twisted.

[Kaath9]

How else would you expect a Messenger of God to speak to a monarch -- or anyone else?

In the Qur'an, many of Muhammad's exhortations carry this same voice of authority. Likewise when Christ speaks He speaks with the Voice of God.

What is the issue?

[valerienanh]

The issue is that Bahaullah, a freemason & self-proclaimed "messenger of God" has strong political connections with tyrants of superpowers. his language clearly indicates his efforts towards New World Order.

How did Moses speak to the tyrant Pharaoh? How did Jesus speak to the tyrant Jewish leaders? How did Muhammad speak to the tyrant polytheists?

ONE WORLD ARMY

ONE WORLD MONEY

ONE WORLD RELIGION

NEW WORLD ORDER

BAHAULLAH WAS A FREEMASON ZIONIST TOOL

Wake up and smell the lies!

[duckotaco]

@masudrules Well it would only be smart and politically and wordly aware to MOVE that fuckin' temple right in time before Iran destroys it (I guess that could happen anytime now).

You're just one of the gullible bahai followers like I used to be. I am born in a bahai family. I was a devoted follower.

Then I got an arrow to the knee. And that opened by eyes.

[masudrules]

@duckotaco Please, leave the decisions regarding Baha'i infrastructure to the adults. That's not to say that there's no threat, but we don't need reactionaries stoking fear either. Regarding the UHJ, as an ex-Baha'i you must know that the divinely ordained infallibility of the UHJ (as an institution, NOT its members) is in the Holy Writings, it's not invented by Baha'is as a way of preparing this ridiculous iiluminati conspiracy of which you speak

[duckotaco]

@masudrules I'm not speaking of any conspiracy, I'm speaking facts you perfectly know. As said before you're just brainwashed and I wasn't here to make you agree, just to tell you to fuck off and let you understand that I BELIEVE YOU WILL NEVER SUCCEED, period. I also believe that you are the child and I the adult. I believe you know nothing of adulthood because you are a child. That's it. But I'm not trying to convince you and forget about convincing me. You're just a troll. Bye.

[duckotaco]

@masudrules also know that I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GOD THINKS the UHJ is infallible. To your advantage to get this fact, that I do not agree with that, for it's real. One thing is for sure: you do not own the truth. This is 500% sure and only an idiot thinks otherwise, wether you or another. You are arrogant and way too self confident, and I don't want you to change, you will simply fuck off and that's fine by me. If you're not humble, you're an idiot. Your problem.

[duckotaco]

@masudrules there is nothing EVIL or BAD in baha'i followers. They're just sheeps, gullibe and naive. The most evil thing they perform is some form of hipocrisy, generally speaking. But this doesn't matter. What matters is that, without going into the conspiracy theories, one cannot possibly believe that everything the bahai universal house of justice does is divinely ordained, and that there is zero ego and power lust in its members. And that is the naivete in the believers.

[jorj119]

Dooste Aziz, Eshtebahe shoma dar in Hast,Eslam Hichwaght Akharin Din Naboodeh wa Hazrate Mohammad Ham Dar Ghoran Chenin Nafarmoodeand, In Ayahha ra Bekhonid wa Taghlid ra kenar begozarid ta be Haghighat beresid,

1- Sooreh , Bani israeel (ayat 77 )

2-sooreh Aaraf (Ayat 33)

3-sooreh Aaraf ( Ayat 34 )

4-sooreh Maryam ( Ayat 53 )

5-Sooreh Sajdeh or Sojdeh ( Ayat 4-5)

6-Sooreh Raad ( Ayat 31 )

7- Sooreh Loghman ( Ayat 38 )

and .......

[jorj119]

کتابِ رسالت ما محبت است و زيبايی است تا بلبل‌های بوسه بر شاخ ارغوان بسرايند شوربختان را اينک فرجام, بردگان را آزاد و نوميدان را اميدوار خواسته‌ايم ,تا تبار يزدانی انسان,سلطنت جاويدانش را بر قلمرو خاک بروياند کتابِ رسالت ما محبت است و زيبايی است تا زهدان خاک از تخمه‌ی کين بار نبندد.

Ahmad Shamloo

[ZYahood]

jorj119; look; you keep deleting my comments! How can I ever trust a word you say? I have been polite and only asked questions but you keep deleting them! If you cannot answer a simple question you must have a lot to hide! (PS: I know you will delete this comment too!)

[ZYahood]

What a crap! The guy first says that several men tie the guy to a tree (and keeps using plural verbs all the way; i.e. meegeerand, meebandand, meerizand). The blazing scene is even more ridiculous; first he suddenly changes the verbs from plural to singular and then he says the lone assassin didn't succeed because of faulty matches! If you are going to set someone on fire wouldn't you put a few lighters in your pocket instead of a box of matches? Do these people think we are idiots?

[jorj119]

کتابِ رسالت ما محبت است و زيبايی است تا بلبل‌های بوسه بر شاخ ارغوان بسرايند شوربختان را اينک فرجام, بردگان را آزاد و نوميدان را اميدوار خواسته‌ايم ,تا تبار يزدانی انسان,سلطنت جاويدانش را بر قلمرو خاک بروياند کتابِ رسالت ما محبت است و زيبايی است تا زهدان خاک از تخمه‌ی کين بار نبندد.

Ahmad Shamloo

[iranipoyandeh]

doesn't matter.I am a human. What are you?

[ZYahood]

iranipoyandeh; Chinggis Khaan claimed to be a human too! But his actions proved that he was a beast! How can you people call yourselves human?

[iranipoyandeh]

At least Chinggis Khaan was not torturing his own people!

As everybody knows Arabs like you has done a lot worse than Chinggis Khaan to Iranians.

[ZYahood]

iranipoyandeh; all the glory and progress of Iran actually was after Islam! You cannot find even a handful of Iranian scientists before Islam but I can name 1000s of scientists who lived after Islam. Was that a coincident?

[iranipoyandeh]

What glory !!!Maybe you are talking about the rape and murders that Arabs have committed in Iran!!

I guess you don't know anything about Achaemenid Empire.If there were some Iranian scientists,that is nothing to do with Islam.

What about now all the Islamic country are the third world countries with all the oil that they have!!

[1884123456789]

Why is everyone bashing the Baha'is ????? They are peaceful, they have not caused any chaos, they are not blowing themselves up! Over the past 25 years, 20 Baha'is have been executed by the Iranian government. How would any of you like it if you were denied your basic rights?

[ZYahood]

By the way, Baha'i is recognized as "Moshrek" by all Muslims (Shia and Sunni)and Baha'is are not even allowed to visit Mecca or any other Muslim holly cities. Baha'is better go to Britain where their prophet was made.

[jorj119]

Dooste aziz, mamnoon az lotfe shoma raje be Bahai , Aya shoma wagean yekbar dianate bahai ra motalee kardeieed? ۱ تحری حقیقت ۲ وحدت عالم انسانی ۳ وحدت لسان و خط برای عالمیان ۴ ترک تعصبات جاهلیه ۵ تساوی حقوق رجال و نساء ۶ صلح عمومی ۷ تعدیل معیشت همگانی و رفع مشکلات اقتصادی ۸ جهان بشری محتاج نفثات روح القدس است ۹ تعلیم و تربیت عمومی و اجباری ۱۰ تشکیل دادگاه کبرا بین‌المللی ۱۱ دین باید سبب الفت و محبت باشد ۱۲ دین باید مطابق علم و عقل باشد inha ra Engelis mikhahad? ThX

[iranipoyandeh]

By the way,Mullas better go to Saudi Arabia where their prophet was made.

[Haz3dNightfall]

@ZYahood,

The founding Bahai prophet (Bahá'u'lláh) was born in Persia, along with the religion.

The Iranian government frequently persecutes and slander the religious group over their beliefs.

[ZYahood]

What a crap! The guy first says that several men tie the guy to a tree (and keeps using plural verbs all the way; i.e. meegeerand, meebandand, meerizand). The blazing scene is even more ridiculous; first he suddenly changes the verbs from plural to singular and then he says the lone assassin didn't succeed because of faulty matches! If you are going to set someone on fire wouldn't you put a few lighters in your pocket instead of a box of matches? Do these people think we are idiots?

[oneflower66]

Esto deberia escucharlo todo el mundo, no hay derecho a que cometan estas atrocidades a personas buenas e inocentes.Gracias.Saludos

[11011908]

Oke

[kavehmoosa]

Thank you dear Jorj 119. People all over the world should know of the atrocities committed against the innocent Baha'is in their homeland.

[seanamico]

@kavehmoosa, It is not just Bahai, it is every Iranian except the Mullah & Basijj that are the oppressors in Iran.

Readam be ISLAM.