GVSU are so darn lazy. By far their recording is the worst out of the 5. And the first and second marimbas are incapable. they can't do offbeat chords in one of these clips. Did you know there are over 3 mistakes in their recording? Awful.
Amistrymister are so darn full of laziness, for sure the laziest poster ever. There is somewhere between 4 and 4.5 mistakes in this recording for sure. Don't be so lazy. You are 5 fingers have on each hand, USE THEM! Otherwise you is incapable.
Repetition is a problem? Look at it this way - imagine how difficult it is to perform a piece like this. While a pattern may go for some time, it can mess with your mind and it requires a lot of concentration to stay in place and time.
I learned to understand repetition patterns and slowly evolving harmonics with Sonic Youth and I find alot of similarities between Steve Reich and Sonic Youth.Good electronic music like Aphex Twin has a lot to do with Steve Reich music. Wouldnt be surprised if they got inspiration from Reich. For those bashing "repetition": I canot hear repetition in Steve Reich music, it always seems like water flowing or wind in trees evolving due to the lack of dominant percursions. It sounds very natural.
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the only positive i see to music like this (crumb, adams, etc.) is that it is opening up new doors for band who make real songs like radiohead. this music as a piece is repetitive and the small changes he makes are just silly. The only thing it shows off is peoples ability to perform, and reich's ability to sit there and write the same music OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. there arent even any significant harmonic changes, i get how its interesting to here it once, but PERFECT? ur trying too hard
This music, Steve Reich, is completely different acording to the context. Its much more powerfull played live in front of you. On headphones, looking at a buzzing city, its great as well.
there is i bigger world out there then radiohead, britney and kiss. i feel sorry for ppl who cant open their eyes and minds for other things than they watch on tv.
Just fantastic, this is such a beautiful piece of music.
what I find annoying however, is that certain renditions sound different, and I have only heard one incredible one, which is on the naxos website (if you have an account there, I would recommend it!) and that is just fantastic.
other recreations of this piece sound more flimsy and are less deep, or at least i find it so,
When i say it detracts from the piece, that still doesnt change the fact I love it though
Now that's just plain mean, What on earth have I ever one to you except attempt to save you from a wasted life listening to noise pollution. I suggest you take up a more benificial passtime rather than destroy your eardrums and mind
Yeah. So how will you know when you arrive at the 'truth'? But wait, lets not even get to that ... 'drive' won't help you to type when your mouth and ears are filled with cement, think you'd be pretty much dead.
I would rather fill my ears full of cement than listen to so much as one note played from any insturment. Burn all intruments and bloody song books too. Music stores should be turned into re-education centers for the musically afflicted
Don't know about you, but cement-filled ears and a cement-filled mouth would prevent me from doing much typing at all. Even if it was the "TRUTH"!!! The 'truth about music' eh. Sounds heavy.
I like this post very much. It is a small sample of the rehearsal filmed from different angles (I guess they had only one camera, so they did it the best way possible).
It is so ridiculously pretentious to say something so obvious like "the point of minimalism is repetition until something emerges blah blah blah". It makes you sound stupid, this is a youtube video that has another point of view, if you want to listen to the music buy the CD.
This man is so well talented that it is too hard for me to decide if Philip Glass is better sounding.
If you like this, I suggest you listen to Sufjan Stevens. He has similar sounds as Steve Reich. I strongly reccomend him if you enjoy Steve Reich. I heard Steve Reich through Sufjan Stevens.
yeah, i didn't realize how much steve reich influenced sufjan. the last song on illinois could practically be a steve reich song. i definitely like reich more than glass, i would have to say, though.
Okay, thanks. But I don't think Glass is more astounding, because music simply lulls you in, it doesn't really challenge you in any way. It usually is the music met in a car-ad.
This is certainly one of my favorite compositions, and it is heartening to know that young people continue to discover and reinvent it. Thanks for sharing!
I could listen to this for hours and hours, but then my brain would be exploded from the awesomeness(.) and I need my brain because our drumline is doing a show based off Reich's work for Windoor.
What's ironic about people saying things like "it sounds a bit repetitive", is how ridiculously repetitive the typical pop and techno that they listen to, is by comparison.
And the funny thing is a lot of artists were strongly influenced by Reich works like this one (if not *this* one itself), and now we're another two musical generations down the road, and the new artists are influenced by the people who were influenced by Reich, and yet the original idea is still there.
The original work is 56 minutes long. Of course they didn't show the whole thing, just like they surely didn't rehearse it all in one pass.
For those that want something a bit more polished to look at, and to *maybe* help understand the constant phasing in and out of different melodies and rhythms by the different performers, check out the Steve Reich - Eight Lines video link in related.
If you actually listen to it, you'll notice that it's not repetitive. all of the patterns are going out of phase with each other creating nice subtle sub-patterns.
This has been one of my favorite pieces for a long time, but getting to see the veritable village of musicians creating in this film is so moving and exciting! I would love to perform this piece! Thank you for sharing this.
I've been a fan of Reich since around 1988 when I was about 13. I was in NYC last year (I'm in the UK) and I was there a just week before the massive Reich season started at the Lincoln Center. Aaargh!!!
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erikjarl (3 months ago) Show Hide Marked as spam 0 Reply | Spam I have ts make that vibrating It just sounds like tonguing to me.
Do you mean that they change the sound by shifting their tongs in some way? Is it totally impossible that they are using a digital or analog soundeffect? It would be pretty easy to do.
I doubt this would be a piece he would have written to be altered or "assisted" digitally. As far as tonguing goes, on a wind instrument, your mouth pretty much says the equivalent of "tah-tah-tah-tah-tah" into the instrument to make the beginning of notes. These guys are just doing it really fast. (I almost can't tongue that fast... Takes a lot of air to support tonguing that fast.)
Yeah, with lips closed, it's really hard, relying on only your tongue's muscle to move it back and forth... Try it while blowing a fast stream of air. It'll be much easier. Air is the answer with any wind instrument. If you don't have a steady, fast airstream, even when playing quietly, you get crap sound.
Very good to see this -- reminds me of the original film of the Reich ensemble from 1979. Shame it demands so much concentration. (It would be nice to see the performers enjoying the music!)
That's why it's called "rehearsal", folks.
onepcwhiz 1 year ago 7
too hard mallets :D Reich wouldn't agree. However compliments, playing this piece is my impossible dream!
Rinhos 1 year ago
GVSU are so darn lazy. By far their recording is the worst out of the 5. And the first and second marimbas are incapable. they can't do offbeat chords in one of these clips. Did you know there are over 3 mistakes in their recording? Awful.
amistrymister 1 year ago
Amistrymister are so darn full of laziness, for sure the laziest poster ever. There is somewhere between 4 and 4.5 mistakes in this recording for sure. Don't be so lazy. You are 5 fingers have on each hand, USE THEM! Otherwise you is incapable.
calamantara 1 year ago
@calamantara What the hell are you saying? Learn to speak English.
amistrymister 1 year ago
@amistrymister
Hey Mister Mister: I'll start using proper english when you do.
"GVSU are so darn lazy" Subject verb disagreement.
"...marimbas are incapable." Wrong word--I think you mean "incompetent" (which is something you're clearly familiar with)
I'm sure there are four mistakes--go back and count, you missed some intonation problems in marimba I.
calamantara 1 year ago
@calamantara Haha that made me smile :D And No. Incapable is the word.
I actually meant in THEIR recording - the CD recording lol - there are plenty of disgusting mistakes in this one.
amistrymister 1 year ago
Steve Reich not being Youtube friendly argument is truth.
CarlosIsDown 1 year ago
Repetition is a problem? Look at it this way - imagine how difficult it is to perform a piece like this. While a pattern may go for some time, it can mess with your mind and it requires a lot of concentration to stay in place and time.
trainman13905 1 year ago
4:10 --> AWESOME
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i agree with sonicboy. reich ain't youtube friendly!
Axonite2 2 years ago
i agree with sonicboy. reich ain't youtube-friendly!
Axonite2 2 years ago
I love this piece ... mainly beacuse everytime I hear it I hear something different ... I can listen to this piece for days ...
flyingfoxable 2 years ago 2
I learned to understand repetition patterns and slowly evolving harmonics with Sonic Youth and I find alot of similarities between Steve Reich and Sonic Youth.Good electronic music like Aphex Twin has a lot to do with Steve Reich music. Wouldnt be surprised if they got inspiration from Reich. For those bashing "repetition": I canot hear repetition in Steve Reich music, it always seems like water flowing or wind in trees evolving due to the lack of dominant percursions. It sounds very natural.
sonicboyPT 2 years ago
beautifully said!in fact,a lot of elctronica artists have admitted to have been inspired and influenced by reich's music...
kapdrums 2 years ago
sonic - check Aphex Twin's remix of Reich. Classy
bodoboi 1 year ago
Yuotube :Stefano Ottomano
datemiretta 2 years ago
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the only positive i see to music like this (crumb, adams, etc.) is that it is opening up new doors for band who make real songs like radiohead. this music as a piece is repetitive and the small changes he makes are just silly. The only thing it shows off is peoples ability to perform, and reich's ability to sit there and write the same music OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. there arent even any significant harmonic changes, i get how its interesting to here it once, but PERFECT? ur trying too hard
pinkpoop24 2 years ago
This music, Steve Reich, is completely different acording to the context. Its much more powerfull played live in front of you. On headphones, looking at a buzzing city, its great as well.
Its not good for youtube... :)
sonicboyPT 2 years ago
there is i bigger world out there then radiohead, britney and kiss. i feel sorry for ppl who cant open their eyes and minds for other things than they watch on tv.
amrob 2 years ago
I heard his piece at the classic fm concert - over an hour long, by the end of it I didn't kow where I was anymore, but I guess that was yhe point!
0SweetRevenge0 2 years ago
Just fantastic, this is such a beautiful piece of music.
what I find annoying however, is that certain renditions sound different, and I have only heard one incredible one, which is on the naxos website (if you have an account there, I would recommend it!) and that is just fantastic.
other recreations of this piece sound more flimsy and are less deep, or at least i find it so,
When i say it detracts from the piece, that still doesnt change the fact I love it though
spasman 2 years ago
Simply perfect.
AkuraNanabi 2 years ago
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kranke scheisse
phraze8 3 years ago
that's one battle of endurance
obscurereference7 3 years ago 2
steve reich . .. that's a phase all drummers go thru waka waka!!
JohnatMI 3 years ago 9
get the ECM recording of this song if you want to hear what this piece is all about
physsion 3 years ago
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Now that's just plain mean, What on earth have I ever one to you except attempt to save you from a wasted life listening to noise pollution. I suggest you take up a more benificial passtime rather than destroy your eardrums and mind
Atkinsmustache 3 years ago
4:04 is really just cool
blkjock81 3 years ago
Yeah. So how will you know when you arrive at the 'truth'? But wait, lets not even get to that ... 'drive' won't help you to type when your mouth and ears are filled with cement, think you'd be pretty much dead.
chrcrash 3 years ago
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dead i may be but at least i would go out happy and not with a mind filled with noisey old rubbish
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I would rather fill my ears full of cement than listen to so much as one note played from any insturment. Burn all intruments and bloody song books too. Music stores should be turned into re-education centers for the musically afflicted
Atkinsmustache 3 years ago
yeah go get that cement then pal, get filling, fill your mouth up too please.
chrcrash 3 years ago
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OK but that won't prevent me from typing the truth about music as I have done here in an attempt to educate music morans not unlike yourself chrcash
Atkinsmustache 3 years ago
that was a really unfortunate place to misspell a word...
samwr 3 years ago 3
you talkin' to me samwr?
Atkinsmustache 3 years ago
Don't know about you, but cement-filled ears and a cement-filled mouth would prevent me from doing much typing at all. Even if it was the "TRUTH"!!! The 'truth about music' eh. Sounds heavy.
chrcrash 3 years ago
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That's because you don't have the drive that I do chrcrash. The desire for truth has always been one of my (many) strong points
Atkinsmustache 3 years ago
Please go die in a fire, k thanks.
llamatube 3 years ago 4
Troppo ripetitivo? Ma se non è mai uguale a sé stesso! è in divenire continuo... forse è il disco più importante del secondo Novecento.
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Booooooooooooring. It's waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too repetative.
3510211 3 years ago
THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT!
Minimalism is beauty.
lastdreams 3 years ago 3
Repetition is not a bad thing when used well.
nmr4991 3 years ago 5
Well, interruptions are a bit annoying...but it made me want to listen more to Steve Reich. Thanks for posting !
earcandy 3 years ago
Too sad all this interruptions/breaks...
Erdfuss 3 years ago
This is a disapointing post. Fades destroy the music, sounds like happy go lucky rubbish.
In fact the repetitions should go on and on until something emerges,
subreal007 3 years ago 10
@subreal007
Completely agree!
Actually breaking such a composition at any point is wrong. But
in five minutes they could have put just Pulse (the beginning)
and THEN fade out
theprof1958 1 year ago
@subreal007
Don't be so ANAL! hahaahaha :-D
I like this post very much. It is a small sample of the rehearsal filmed from different angles (I guess they had only one camera, so they did it the best way possible).
It is so ridiculously pretentious to say something so obvious like "the point of minimalism is repetition until something emerges blah blah blah". It makes you sound stupid, this is a youtube video that has another point of view, if you want to listen to the music buy the CD.
kapitalismos 1 year ago 7
I get chills just listening to this! It's such a masterpiece!
wormholetravel75 3 years ago 5
i've designed a cd cover for that album,
in association with the BBC 21cc and the British Film Institute.......
saeho90 3 years ago
can i see it?
satanicsquirrel01 3 years ago 2
This man is so well talented that it is too hard for me to decide if Philip Glass is better sounding.
If you like this, I suggest you listen to Sufjan Stevens. He has similar sounds as Steve Reich. I strongly reccomend him if you enjoy Steve Reich. I heard Steve Reich through Sufjan Stevens.
Nickthejedi1 3 years ago
yeah, i didn't realize how much steve reich influenced sufjan. the last song on illinois could practically be a steve reich song. i definitely like reich more than glass, i would have to say, though.
jonbashjonbash 3 years ago
That is extacly what I thought. Sufjan's last song on Illinoise is just like Steve Reich. I think I too enjoy Steve Reich more than Philip Glass.
Nickthejedi1 3 years ago
Okay, thanks. But I don't think Glass is more astounding, because music simply lulls you in, it doesn't really challenge you in any way. It usually is the music met in a car-ad.
W4d5Y 3 years ago
stunning interpretation. the sorta thing you could send someone to get em hooked on reich.
kaini 3 years ago
This is certainly one of my favorite compositions, and it is heartening to know that young people continue to discover and reinvent it. Thanks for sharing!
lbcsrw 3 years ago
I saw this at Carnegie Hall NYC. Simply blew me away. Thank you for posting this...wish it was longer!
pumpkinhead1965 3 years ago
What's up with those marimba players faking the pulse on the second cut. :P haha.
ah, it's a rehearsal...but that pulse's eigth notes are getting compressed...
ToSpinPlates 3 years ago
chingon!!!!
papaplancas 3 years ago
beautiful!!!
why don't you upload the whole performance??????
abcabc123456123456 3 years ago
i know its frustrating seeing it cut lol but yes it is indeed beautiful
SambaDisaWinner 3 years ago
I've been mesmorized by this cd many times. It's great to see the music being made. Thank you for posting this.
jbjindra 3 years ago
| cool |
spettro9 3 years ago
I'm designing a CD - AlBum CoVer for that 'Beautiful Music'...
some what sounds beautiful,
some what sounds too repetitive...
saeho90 3 years ago
by far one of the most amazing contemporary pieces ever written!
Cygnus421 3 years ago
The original is 56:03 min. Every time new, every time full of surprise. I'll enjoy it until my end.... may be it is played in heaven
38of400 3 years ago 2
Ab 4:03 klingt es wie ein Magelanorchester.
Vahavishnu lässt grüßen...
pallbo 3 years ago
this is what fall out boy's next album's gonna sound like.
crazeepunk 3 years ago
....no
gameplyr17 3 years ago
Musik ist wirklich eine Droge.
Wunderbar.
Ich fühle mich immer wohl und regelrecht high, wenn ich diese Musik höre.
Danke, Steve Reich!
Masi43 3 years ago
The part at 4:03 is awesome!
cliffordton 3 years ago
bad thing to stop the groove...
chor74 3 years ago
to lesten to this music you must be overdosed!! haha
greenowl2 3 years ago
strange stuff to me ,but it is interesting listening ,
tobair123 3 years ago
this is great...
Mariss666 3 years ago 3
Well... I'd never been in Heaven.. but I think this is the kind of music they play in their jukebox :-)
nukebass 4 years ago 4
maybe... if heaven were not spawned by imaginationland.
iamlameduck 3 years ago
Heaven's a lie... don't you know?
cadabraa 3 years ago
Wow! What a delightful lie I'm living! :-)
nukebass 3 years ago
Everytime I listen to Minimalist works I feel like in Heaven!
nukebass 4 years ago 4
awesome :)
wiki6692 4 years ago
I could listen to this for hours and hours, but then my brain would be exploded from the awesomeness(.) and I need my brain because our drumline is doing a show based off Reich's work for Windoor.
Steve Reich=Genius
dddtl 4 years ago 2
One should listen to his "The Desert Music" CD. It is fabulous also..
BillyLapTop 4 years ago 2
this sounds great
ofmontreal88 4 years ago
This rules. Steve Reich is the shit
Blodhevn666 4 years ago
What's ironic about people saying things like "it sounds a bit repetitive", is how ridiculously repetitive the typical pop and techno that they listen to, is by comparison.
And the funny thing is a lot of artists were strongly influenced by Reich works like this one (if not *this* one itself), and now we're another two musical generations down the road, and the new artists are influenced by the people who were influenced by Reich, and yet the original idea is still there.
daemn42 4 years ago 2
The original work is 56 minutes long. Of course they didn't show the whole thing, just like they surely didn't rehearse it all in one pass.
For those that want something a bit more polished to look at, and to *maybe* help understand the constant phasing in and out of different melodies and rhythms by the different performers, check out the Steve Reich - Eight Lines video link in related.
daemn42 4 years ago
A Little Different
damjol1 4 years ago
I wish you would have just played it through with out all the annyoing inbetween parts
lemonsthemelon 4 years ago 2
agreed. Tears this masterpiece apart.
Bricksmith 4 years ago
one of the masterpieces of the 20th century! Reich is a genius!
fosco85 4 years ago 2
way to speak english. ass.
sarahannmurray86 4 years ago
Why is it so repetitive?
jaberwocky6669 4 years ago
because its a minimal work
loscil11 4 years ago 2
If you actually listen to it, you'll notice that it's not repetitive. all of the patterns are going out of phase with each other creating nice subtle sub-patterns.
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madhatter2k 4 years ago 2
Brilliant piece! One of Reich`s finest works.
Also... The blonde female singer at 2:50 is really beautiful! At least that`s what I think...
Roswellsounds 4 years ago
This has been one of my favorite pieces for a long time, but getting to see the veritable village of musicians creating in this film is so moving and exciting! I would love to perform this piece! Thank you for sharing this.
cinciscott 4 years ago 2
buenisimo!!!
r41zcu4dr4d4d3E 4 years ago
the 9th symphony of our time
robotkarel 4 years ago 2
Cosign
mclarenfan86 4 years ago
I've been a fan of Reich since around 1988 when I was about 13. I was in NYC last year (I'm in the UK) and I was there a just week before the massive Reich season started at the Lincoln Center. Aaargh!!!
cjs1492 4 years ago
Sublime
Snaporaz87 4 years ago
I love listening to steve reich on magic mushrooms. Really nice.
BaileysMariner 4 years ago 4
Reich = genious
khantatat 4 years ago
khantatat= Dumbass. genius is how its spelled. im just kidding i dont really care i just couldnt resist.
caleb222 4 years ago
Minimalism rules
kongerle 4 years ago
ahhhhh i saw them perform it at 5:00am in NYC at Bang on a Can this year!!! YEAAAAAAA
trunks2861 4 years ago
Just outstanding! I could watch it again and again. Many thanks to all involved!
tonythrill17 4 years ago
I love the mood of this song...
(Who turns the page for marimba/xylophone players?)
Jello Jello Hag=gis Hag=j... Search "Charles Manson Sings"...
fulzgy 4 years ago
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fulzgy 4 years ago
I have always wondered how the bass clarinets make that vibrating effect. Anyone who's got an idea?
erikjarl 4 years ago
It just sounds like tonguing to me.
jdbs1978 4 years ago
Do you mean that they change the sound by shifting their tongs in some way? Is it totally impossible that they are using a digital or analog soundeffect? It would be pretty easy to do.
erikjarl 4 years ago
I doubt this would be a piece he would have written to be altered or "assisted" digitally. As far as tonguing goes, on a wind instrument, your mouth pretty much says the equivalent of "tah-tah-tah-tah-tah" into the instrument to make the beginning of notes. These guys are just doing it really fast. (I almost can't tongue that fast... Takes a lot of air to support tonguing that fast.)
jdbs1978 4 years ago
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
I know, I have tried to do it with my tongue, but lips closed, and it's really hard.
erikjarl 4 years ago
Yeah, with lips closed, it's really hard, relying on only your tongue's muscle to move it back and forth... Try it while blowing a fast stream of air. It'll be much easier. Air is the answer with any wind instrument. If you don't have a steady, fast airstream, even when playing quietly, you get crap sound.
(I'm a trumpet player, by the way.) :)
jdbs1978 4 years ago
nice this was my music homework no joke
sarahkenton123 4 years ago
ha, nice, same with me, lol
rdavidr 4 years ago
thank you for posting, I have the cd but have never seen any of it live...
saints54 4 years ago
Very good to see this -- reminds me of the original film of the Reich ensemble from 1979. Shame it demands so much concentration. (It would be nice to see the performers enjoying the music!)
GavJW 4 years ago
fantastic. many thanks.
Captainjjb 4 years ago
Hope to see your concert recording soon!
davidtraveller 4 years ago
I bought the ECM recording of this in 1983, I was 17 years old and it changed my life.
daigle65 4 years ago
I bought this cd when 18. but I like Reich's Tehiliim music most
christinewisdom 4 years ago
Along with Octet, they're Reich's best work.
daigle65 4 years ago
To little of Section VI was played!!! But apart from that, great video:)
Bzibzianka 4 years ago
Yeah part six is my favourite also.
peletonkambing 4 years ago
Awesome! Reich is one of my favourite composers! I like this piece so much!
Holg86 4 years ago
I sure hope you record the performance. Can't make it to NY. I'm in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Does this ensemble have a site?
aesthetic1950 4 years ago
I'm greedy. More Reich please! Did you perform this publicly?
aesthetic1950 4 years ago
Will be performed in two days--June 3, 2007, Bang On a Can Marathon, New York, NY.
billry 4 years ago
Not that tight imo, but nice try tho. Frekking hard that piece.
gurcrist 4 years ago
That put a smile on my face ... I love this piece.
HryMuscle 4 years ago