Macon Women college. Sexist and hypocritical. Women fought for years against the bullshit and injustice of having school open only to men. Now they are allowed in schools and they want to have woman's college!
I have been watching many Richard Dawks vids on utube and he hasn't refuted anything Christian with science or facts only slander and his own troubled opinions.
It never ceases to amaze me how atheists are typically such pissed off people. Dawkins pours all of his time and resources into trying to disprove Someone who is neither scientifically provable nor disprovable. And for what? If u believe in God, it requires faith. If u don't believe in God, but that everything is an accident, that requires much more faith. Either way, why the hostility? George Carlin died a miserable, pissed off man...at Someone he didnt believe in. How tragic is that?
Lol, yeah. George Carlin was pissed off at a lot of things.. The INSTITUTION of religion was one of them.
However, I heard no anger in Dawkin's words and am unsure what the hell you're talking about. Maybe it just sounds angry to you because he's confronting your sacred belief?
I think, repeated stupid questions guarantee to trigger an anger response. Look at the question here "What if there is an unknown?". Of course there is an unknown, but if you start postulating anything, anything at all, about that unknown you are an idiot. If you repeatedly claim(!) to know the unknown your stupidity will trigger an anger response. For the record - Dawkins conducted himself much better than average person would, when confronted with such childish questions.
there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no jesus also...
Your baselss statements just shows you are a baseless nonsense user.
Check it out: Isaiah prophesied about King Cyrus three centuries before he was born. Do you think any man can do this by himself? No, only a man inspired by the LORD GOD JESUS could do this. This proves the Bible is divinely inspired and therefore true. And that means THE LORD GOD JESUS is true.
I just logically proved THE LORD GOD JESUS is true unlike your nonsense. THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
Excuse me for saying you are a baseless nonsense user, but you are definitely a baseless nonsense user according to logic.
THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you. Do you think this is true? Is it whether you believe it or not. I just proved it to you logically and reasonably. THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
No, Isaiah's three-century prophecy proves the Bible is divinely inspired. The simple flaw in your argument is a logical one. You have no basis, evidence, or support to go on. You go by a logical fallacy.
Isaiah prophesied about King Cyrus the Great three centuries before he was born. Let me say it again. That's three centuries. There is no other explanation than divine inspiration. THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
I would go for a wise man who had studied and learned, but who was also descended of Jewish Kings and therefore a political liability for those who would want to maintain the status quo in a society barely able to hang on during the occupation of their country by a foriegn power.
Through political machinations he was executed and elevated to martyrdom status by his followers who took his entire life completely out of context and developed a religion around him.
But what really makes your religion right, and other religions wrong? they have the same amount of evidence as you, except they have less followers. You dont seem open to the possibility that there isnt God, therefore he will forever stay real in your mind. I can claim to live above you in another plane of existence, its not true, but i can say it and believe it honestly.
I respect your opinions, dont think i dont. I hope you have a successful life, as every educated person should.
Its not a question of who it is right or wrong. It is the one in which the truth has manifested itself and observation of the real miracles Jesus has performed in so many lives.
Remember, a prayer is a plea...not a demand. And the prayers of a rightous man/woman of God are powerful.
wait the way of thinking you are either following christ or against him is the most retarded way of thinking for the sake of talking about religion what about the religions such as Islam who see jesus as a prohet himself but not the son of god or Judasim who don't see 'jesus' as 'gods' son. And you say "god is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow" so what happened before christianity came around i'd say 1900 years ago give or take, and why wasn't christianity in other places in the world
2+2=5 look i can change all logic by simply stating it in an open forum. Exactly like the Bible did in the world. Obviously no being can create something out of nothing, it defies everything we know about everything. God Creating the Earth is like me giving you a skittle and saying "here make it into a Ferrari" Evil and Good are just labels given to Morally just and unjust activities, i can kill thousands (like God did) and call it morally just, because i can. Its not true, but i can say it is.
He became sin, who knew no sin, so that we might become His rightousness. He humbled himself and carried the cross. This is a love that I cannot keep to myself. I am not pushing anything on anyone. It is a choice! That is the point ! A loving father would let His sons and daughters make their own decisions.
I am excited about how love became a man. This is why I share with you all on this specific video. Not because of the video, but because there might be some lost that could be found.
Your talking about Jesus correct? because the labels "He and Him" dont really give me much idea what the hell your talking about, im going to put it simply in the form of a paradox and the form of a riddle. It would be nice if you answered both.
Paradox: If God claimed to give us free will, how can you believe he "has a plan for us"
Riddle: Why would God create himself in human form, to sacrifice himself, to himself. Wouldnt it be easier to just say "Your all forgiven for sin, were cool now"
I suppose we should all be grateful that morons like this guy were born in a (reasonably) civilised society so that all they do is rant on youtube. If this guy (or jlb06w by the sounds of it) were born in an Arab country, they'd likely have blown themselves (and innocent people) up by now to prove their extreme religious fanaticism.
Youtube away Christian Taliban. Just stay away from the IED's and C4. Oh, and airliners...
jlb06w, if there is a god (and on all evidence and probability there isnt) he would surely rather we came to our own conclusions on his/her/its existence based on reason, logic and sound proof than to just blindly follow some ancient story book.
And yes, I will live it up. Thats the whole point of being alive. I pity the zealots who think of their only proven existence as merely a waiting room to another.
No, logic and sound proof does support the Christian belief of The LORD GOD. The Bible is supported by archeology and history and science all over.
Check it out: Isaiah prophecied about King Cyrus the Great's emergence three centuries earlier. That proves the Bible is divinely-inspired and therefore completely true. And Jesus is a true, historical figure by the way. How long has the fact of King Cyrus' prophecy been around? Do you atheists believe now? No. Go figure. JESUS loves you.
Sorry, but I'm just trying to prove the Bible is true the way atheists are clamoring for, that is logic. Isaiah's prophesied about King Cyrus the Great three centuries before King Cyrus the Great came around. That proves the Bible is divinely-inspired and completely true. I should figure that they would believe by now since they claim to believe in logic, but obviously they don't. Believe in logic that is. THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you all.
Wait your trying to say that the Bible is true so the parts in the bible which state that Genocide is an acceptable thing and Slavery is fine and alot more other horrible things. The world would be better off without religion. No holy wars leading to pointless deaths, no Spanish Inquisition. no wars between Protestants and Catholics alot better off you see. No such thing as God and no Historical evidence for Jesus at all none whatsoever. and show evidence for Isaiah claim.
Unfortunately, you don't know the Bible well enough to interpret it correctly. From what I see you just come up with things wrong which actually aren't as typical atheists do.
And you have baseless false statements. No historical evidence for THE LORD GOD JESUS. Funny. History itself and historians all disprove your baseless statement on that. All you and other atheists can come up with against the historicity of THE LORD GOD JESUS is baseless statements.
Isaiah's prophesied about King Cyrus the Great three centuries before King Cyrus the Great came around. That proves the Bible is divinely-inspired and therefore completely true.
I just proved to you historically and logically that the LORD GOD JESUS is true. Do you believe now? Hopefully you do for your own sake. You are sending yourself to the bad place if you don't. THE LORD GOD is not sending you there.
HE is a merciful and compassionate GOD and THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
you've not answered any of the other questions and btw the later part of the book was written after Cyrus appeared so that logic is flawed. So once again Christians fall.
Now described the man in detail, how he will live his life in detail, tell us his name and where he is going to be born and the events surrounding him in detail that will take place in when he is.
Also tell us the exact words he will speak etc. etc. etc.
I did it as good as your fairy tale book does. Want more precision?
He will be loved by the people where he borned, he will have many enemies but more friends. Important people would want him to lose the elections, but the people will vote for him because he inspire confidence. All his family will be united the day of the elections and will hear the news together.
I wish i was able to speak on the phone or something i could refute you all in minutes without having to use errors and lies that you all seem to clearly be using as the foundations to your arguments.
Because there is so little truth in what your saying based on the fact you have no scriptual knowledge let alone understanding of historical documents and facts. Its hard to debate with those fools of you which sadly have closet minds.
I see that you are a big fan of Nirvana. You realize that your idol (Kurt Cobain) had the intellect to realize there is a God...
And yes, I will continue to live the life Christ has given me, and yes, I will continue to believe that there is eternal life. And yes, I will believe that there is a place with no more fears, no more pain, and no more tears.
Our souls are here on this earth...but they are in trial. Much like a court room....but on a greater scale.
wow you couldn't be more wrong Kurt never believed in god at all. xD be prepared for the Lord xD. What do you make about the commandents in the bible which state that Genocide is fine and Slavery is fine and it says how to treat your slave what do you make of that ?
You are obviously very confused and you are reading only what you want to read. Go back, read it again and make sure to observe the context in which it is written.
Don't read the Bible, see the word "death", and then jump on your "jump to conclusions mat" Everything in the old testament points to a savior, that is, Jesus.
" I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."
A very simple flaw in the prophecy-fulfillment argument is that foreseeing the future doesn't necessarily prove divine guidance. I'll talk more about this in another argument, but right now I'm interested in the evidence for these prophecies and scientific proof you talk about.
The idea of a personal God seems very improbable to most scientists I know, it takes more than a fulfilled prophecy here and there to prove the existence of the supernatural.
We can sit here and argue all day with our petty semantics...pure boredom
What we cannot argue is the real experience that I had when I came to know Christ.
I pray that you would lay down your petty arguments that try and explain away God and draw closer to Him...He will...I promise you, draw near to you and you will feel it.
He is, He was, He always will be. No matter what. I know how it feels to just live the way you want,.but the truth is, that feeling is the peak of deception.
I had a similar experience when I left Christianity. So what?
Dawkins is correct. If you want to believe in that, go ahead, but don't force it upon others. (And if you think you're not trying to do that here, then why all the comments?)
Why all the comments from me? I'm calling hypocrisy out.
ok, firstly, every religious text in every religion is supposedly divinely inspired. They cant all be true. How have you proven jesus to be a true and historical figure? The bible says the world is about 5000 years old. I suppose you believe that too?
Archeology doesnt support the bible. It shows evolution, dinosaurs, an earth that is billions of years old... THAT is history and science. This is why they aren't allowed to teach creationism in schools... It breeds morons.
And anyway the DNA record shows quite clearly the migration of humans beginning in Africa something like 150,000 years ago, arriving in the general "cradle of civilization" area something like 40,000 years after that.
Either think of the bible conceptually and philosphically, without the encumbrance of literalism, or go with the literalism, but be prepared for people to challenge your views.
It is a fact, and it is agreeable among historians all over the world, that Jesus walked this earth and over 40 authors wrote 60 books that told of his glory... WITHOUT contradiction.
If it is a fact, then I pity you your loss of faith.
You see, by making it a fact you have reduced the need for faith and therefore given up the reasons for spiritual development.
Not only that, you have opened up your religion to attack on a factual basis. Nothing from 2000 years ago will escape debate. This will further weaken your religion in the eyes of others.
...and it doesn't matter how many authors have written books on it. That just means there is more to debate.
Step back, look at the world and all of its inequity, see the world through the eyes of a blind man. Doesnt it sound busy? The media promoting lies...commercials telling us how we are supposed to do things... The things of this earth are that of deception. When I read the bible, I am freed from these things because it tells me not to love the world or anything in it. Set your eyes on Christ and take a step out onto the water.
Yet, there are many who see the Bible as another tissue of lies. To use your analogy, the makers of the television commercials see the truth in that their products are the key to getting things done. There is always more than one way of looking at things.
Yo tell me to look at Christ. I have. I was a Christian once. It is not my path.
I found a different way and it accepts all other ways as being equal, including Christianity and Atheism.
Actually, no offence, but I'm pretty sure you have little understanding of the choices I have made.
There are hundreds of ways to interpret scripture. You say accept Jesus, but how many other Christians would say accept THEIR (apologies for the caps, there's no italics) version of Jesus or don't be accepted into heaven?
I'll continue on my own path, thank you very much.
Yeah, but neither did Zeus, or Allah or Quetzalcoatl striked you for not believing in them
What makes you sure that jaweh is no different from all those pagan gods? Are you gonna say "cuz everyone believes in him"? everyone believed in zeus and look at things now. Are you gonna say "cuz it brings me hope"? well i have news for you, the fact that something makes you good, doesn't mean its true.
The believers in Allah grants them hope, but that doesnt makes his god true, neither does yorus.
The ironic thing is... I used to think the exact same way you do... God changed me from the inside out and I now see life from a new perspective... One that provides hope for all through faith in Jesus Christ who did walk this earth, was crucified, died, and resurrected. It is through the caliber of this sacrifice that I have a greater understanding of our PURPOSE here.
To know God and to make Him known through loving others. To be inspired by the splendor of His creation. To love your neighbor as yourself. To question your motives when you do something "good" for society. To mature our souls within the walls of our flesh. To come to know Christ as our Lord and Savior. WITHOUT TRUTH THERE IS NO LOVE.
Hm, my purpose is my family and friends, my art, learning, loving, protecting, etc. Mind I don't have a god, nor do I believe one exists. My purpose is directed by me, and my loved ones.
Each one of those things are gifts from God. To say that purpose is directed by you and your loved ones is partially true...but recognizing that you are work of His hands can give you a much deeper meaning and thankfulness for what you have.
Generating your own purpose is actually becoming your own God. If everyone did this, there would be total chaos because there are people who would challenge what is right and wrong (Hitler, Stalin) only to find death and destruction.
I prefer to take credit for my own work and credit those who contribute as well. I annoys me to no end when someone works hard for something, or survives a near death experience as a result of training, rescue workers, etc, but then thanks god. That undermines our own abilities, and belittles who and what we are. And Hitler and Stalin . . they committed acts not unlike the Hebrew's slaughter of the Canaanites at the behest of your god.
You're wrong all evidence and probability state there is a GOD and HE is the LORD JESUS.
"ok, firstly, every religious text in every religion is supposedly divinely inspired. They cant all be true."
I just proved to you through logic, history, and archaeology that the Bible is true because of Isaiah's prophecy which is actually THE LORD JESUS' prophecy. Of course, the other so called religions are not true. Christianity is true and states the others aren't. Christianity is not a religion.
Check it out: Isaiah prophesied about King Cyrus three centuries before he was born. Do you think any man can do this by himself? No, only a man inspired by the LORD GOD JESUS could do this. This proves the Bible is divinely inspired and therefore true. And that means THE LORD GOD JESUS is true.
I just logically proved THE LORD GOD JESUS is true unlike your nonsense. THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
I pray that that the "Un" prefix would be removed from your name.
Eternal life is the promise of Jesus Christ, the one who died for each and every one of us.
I would rather live a life to serve Jesus and find out he does not exist , than to live a life not serving Jesus and then......find out that He does exist. Please search your heart.
I beg you, please believe me when I say that this life is not the end but the beginning. You feel pushed through text...consider it a miracle, for God is stimulating the void in your heart. Broaden your perspective on what Jesus has done for you and I.
God is the father to the fatherless, the strength to the weak and the nourishment to the soul. We are His Joy. In the wonderful words of C.S. Lewis, "Joy is the serious business of heaven" .
People of similar religions will say the same thing about their god or gods. That's not real evidence, all it proves is that you've been brainwashed by other people who want to force their primitive beliefs onto the world.
Have you really ever thought about it, lay in bed and questioned why you believe everything an ancient, self-contradictory book tells you? Have you even read the entire bible?
Can you even tell me why you think it's logical for me to believe it?
In the realm of Jesus among other gods, I can tell you this truth.
ALL OTHER RELIGIONS POINT TO A SET OF PRINCIPLES AND A FORMULA THAT ONE MUST USE TO ATTAIN SALVATION. THE DIFFERENCE WITH CHRIST IS THAT.....HE IS THE PRINCIPLE AND IT IS ONLY BY GRACE THAT WE ARE SAVED....NOT BY WORKS SO THAT NO MAN CAN BOAST.
What other religions have you studied besides the Abrahamic based?
My religion is not about attaining salvation, because we are not "sinners". Salvation is not required. You speak like you have studied something but base your statements upon assumption.
i like the way Sagan put it: "It is far better to understand the Universe the way it really is, than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
so.....basically his response is typical dawkins response.
"i dont have a flying clue how to disprove or provide any rationality, other than to just say that your stupid" haha post modern atheism cant even stand on its own. way to use rationality.
also its called positivism it was real popular in the 50's made by atony flew who supported it in theology and falsification an actual smart atheist
I only wonder why they don't fight for their biblical science. The biblical knowledge about the universe and the earth. Flat earth with 4 corners being a center of the universe, sun and moon swapping their places. After all this info was provided by the creator of it so it should disprove any modern science with no doubts. They will make an excuse again...
Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the Earth.
Christians are always making excuses. 2000 years ago they believed that their god lived in the sky(literally - babel tower). Now when this has been disproved, they say 'Oh well, he must live outside of it then, but I am sure he is there!'. If there is any outside then I bet my balls that if we got there somehow they would say 'well if he's not here then he is somewhere else.
jlb06w and 12tod are both lost men... Yet there is hope. They are 99.99% sure that Poseidon does not exist. Let us pray brothers and sisters that they will take the 0.001% chance of him existing, ant let it manifest itself so that they will not forever burn in eternal damnation. I claim this in Poseidon's name. Amen...
Jesus asked the disciple Peter, "Who do you say that I am? ". Peter replied, "The son of the living God !" ... All other gods (Allah, Poseidon, Zeus etc.) point to a set of priciples. The difference with Jesus is that HE IS THE PRINCIPLE and each and every one us must answer the question that Jesus asked us through his word.
Is Jesus just a good teacher that has pulled off the greatest hoax known to man??
Or was he really who he said he was..."The way, the truth, the life"
Richard Dawkins is a lost man... yet, there is hope.... He is 95% sure there is no God. Pray brothers, that he would take the 5% that he is sure of there being a God, and let it manifest itself so that he will not forever burn in eternal damnation. I claim this in Jesus' Holy name. Amen
If youre 99% sure that allah isnt real then pray islamic brothers that you take the 1% chance of him existing, and let it manifest itself so that he will not forever burn in eternal damnation. I claim this in Allahs' Holy name. Amen. ;)
im not a sinner... im a humanitarian. i dont lie, i dont hurt people, i teach people, i do charities, i help poor kids in 3rd world countries get an opportunity to enter school. im not a sinner and i wasnt born a sinner. im innosent.. and according to your God, he givves no mercy to people who deny the holy spirit.. but i do deny it because ther is no proof it is real
You are wrong... And yes, you are a sinner, as am I.
I will leave you with this brother.
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are Gods workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
How dare these creationist refute evolution ?! the nerves on these people ! you're gonna come and tell us how the work works and deny the work of our greatest scientist ? Man these creationist should all shut the fuck up.
No I want them to talk and they can deny all they wish but the facts always trump even the most convoluted of arguments.
There is no offense for disputing a thing but science only listens to reason.
Also it doesn't matter if they dispute or deny the works of scientists the reality remains and trumps mysticism. The simplest proof of this is that churches have lightning rods on them, which is admitting that lightning is a natural force that is directed by rules we understand.
Whether or not man had invented the -word- 'time' and whether or not a second was decided to be shorter or longer doesn't matter. It has absolutely no bearing on the fact that time exists.
Yes, the length of a second is a conceptual construct, as is the length of a metre or the weight of a kilogram, but time still flows, at least to our perception, from past to future, there is still length and there is still mass.
Bringing a label into being is not the same as bringing the object into being.
I can't believe that they clapped at Dawkins responce. According to the natural law of entripy time has a beginning. So there has to be a realm that is not subject to time. Since if we go back to the beginning of time, we have to realize that there was something before the beginning of time. There has to be a fourth dimension or something beyond the natural realm that is yet to be observed. That is the only explanation for time. It's impossible to explain in the natural realm.
@athywren This dimension is subject to time my friend. Time matter and energy don't just evolve from nothing. The law of entripy tells this universe has an age. Evolutionists believe it is 15-20 billion years old. Therefore there must be a universe that is not subject to time. Time didn't just come from nothing 20 billion years ago. There has to be a spiritual and unnatural dimension outside of this one that is not subject to time and therefore it cannot be tested by laws in this unive..
to throw something spiritual and supernatural out as an explanation for something for which there is as yet no naturalistic one is terribly weak. You are perfectly in your epistemic rights to believe such a thing yourself, but you have no grounds on which to put it forward as the only reasonable alternative to a natural explanation.
Time is an aspect of the universe, it can be seen as a dimension of it's own within it, how can we say that they must be time outside of the box when we cannot see outside it?
I can see where you're coming from, but to suggest that whatever may be 'outside' the universe, assuming there is such a thing as outside, must run by the same rules as the universe is unsupportable - we cannot investigate it, we cannot test it, we cannot know it. All we have is conjecture and that is useless.
I don't think I said there is a a universe that is not subject to time. I said there is a dimension that cannot be subject to time.
Everything here is subject t time. The earth would lose its magnetic strength, the sun would burn out, Everything will turn to disorder. We don't see stars evolving. With the amount of stars we have we should see 6 million a minute evolving if the universe is 20 billion years old. But yet notta one. There is another unobserved dimension. Common sense
"The law of entripy tells this universe has an age. Evolutionists believe it is 15-20 billion years old. Therefore there must be a universe that is not subject to time." - that's exactly what you said.. I just copy pasted it. And what are you talking about? Stars evolving? into what? You do realize that there are three different populations of stars, Pop1 we dont see anymore (they are dead) there are some pop II still observed, and the sun etc are pop III stars...
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Faith does not need proof. I wish you would get that. Dawkins relishes in insults and belittling those who do not believe the same as he. He is a very ugly man. Those who follow him are unaware of what they are truly doing. Blind leading the blind. And so boldly!
Actually, everyone has faith right? Nobody KNOWS that they are going to wake up in the morning. But if you thought for one second that you were not going to wake up, would you go to sleep? I doubt it. Faith is something we all have and do. Faith in itself will not help you in the end. It is what you have faith in that counts. And I did not make this up. I have nothing and am nothing outside of Christ and Him crucified. Nothing except liable for hell.
Fine, but basing a rational argument on faith doesn't work. Taking your analogy, nobody knows when they are not going to wake up, unless there are other factors involved that are not in the day to day life (disease, etc.) A lifespan cannot be measured until it is over.
Yes, we have faith that we wake up in the morning, but that isn't the point. The point is that instead of blindly following, maybe we can assemble enough facts so that we don't have to use faith to improve our lives.
Is this post fair? You censor Venom and show only Dawkins...
pillblooms 2 years ago
What is the proof that Richard Dawkins exists?
JaguerRhye 2 years ago
Nothing comes from nothing. Someting causes something. What is the first cause?
IronicKismet 2 years ago
Nothing :) nah just kidding
TwilightAronXD 2 years ago
Macon Women college. Sexist and hypocritical. Women fought for years against the bullshit and injustice of having school open only to men. Now they are allowed in schools and they want to have woman's college!
thefutureboom 2 years ago
Poor VenomFangX. Ignorance may be bliss but only until you realize that you could be thrown in jail. lol
bighugejake 2 years ago
Of course god is outside of laws of nature!!
and logic, and reason, and critical thinking, and ethical education, and moral education, outside of non-deluded minds, and such.
cheers.
yusbarrett 2 years ago
You are all super losers. Congrats.
Get out of your mommy's basements and do something productive with your lives.
Arguing over the internet about religion.... wow. just. wow. losers.
GET. A. LIFE.
MichaelFondledMe 2 years ago
@MichaelFondledMe ........and you calling them losers.now thats pathetic
daveeol 2 years ago
he took it too far because he didnt have a leg to stand on.
mrfukbag 2 years ago
I have been watching many Richard Dawks vids on utube and he hasn't refuted anything Christian with science or facts only slander and his own troubled opinions.
darknight7002 2 years ago
don't be ignorant, sir
SheepRCool17 2 years ago
The same is said to you sir.
Do not be ignorant.
Thankyou.
darknight7002 2 years ago
wow. there is no way you watch these videos from an unbiased point of view, sir.
SheepRCool17 2 years ago
It never ceases to amaze me how atheists are typically such pissed off people. Dawkins pours all of his time and resources into trying to disprove Someone who is neither scientifically provable nor disprovable. And for what? If u believe in God, it requires faith. If u don't believe in God, but that everything is an accident, that requires much more faith. Either way, why the hostility? George Carlin died a miserable, pissed off man...at Someone he didnt believe in. How tragic is that?
LounginApe 2 years ago
Lol, yeah. George Carlin was pissed off at a lot of things.. The INSTITUTION of religion was one of them.
However, I heard no anger in Dawkin's words and am unsure what the hell you're talking about. Maybe it just sounds angry to you because he's confronting your sacred belief?
Urza216 2 years ago
I think, repeated stupid questions guarantee to trigger an anger response. Look at the question here "What if there is an unknown?". Of course there is an unknown, but if you start postulating anything, anything at all, about that unknown you are an idiot. If you repeatedly claim(!) to know the unknown your stupidity will trigger an anger response. For the record - Dawkins conducted himself much better than average person would, when confronted with such childish questions.
cheburashka1326 2 years ago
I love Dawkins! Hes is just freaking cool!!
BadLilNinja 2 years ago
there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no god there is no jesus also...
randycornhole 2 years ago
@chaosangel667,
Your baselss statements just shows you are a baseless nonsense user.
Check it out: Isaiah prophesied about King Cyrus three centuries before he was born. Do you think any man can do this by himself? No, only a man inspired by the LORD GOD JESUS could do this. This proves the Bible is divinely inspired and therefore true. And that means THE LORD GOD JESUS is true.
I just logically proved THE LORD GOD JESUS is true unlike your nonsense. THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
JesusIsLordEveryDay 2 years ago
Excuse me for saying you are a baseless nonsense user, but you are definitely a baseless nonsense user according to logic.
THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you. Do you think this is true? Is it whether you believe it or not. I just proved it to you logically and reasonably. THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
JesusIsLordEveryDay 2 years ago
God is not "outside matter" He is called Jesus... God made man.
Boeing747fourhundred 2 years ago
@ Boeu13,
No, Isaiah's three-century prophecy proves the Bible is divinely inspired. The simple flaw in your argument is a logical one. You have no basis, evidence, or support to go on. You go by a logical fallacy.
Isaiah prophesied about King Cyrus the Great three centuries before he was born. Let me say it again. That's three centuries. There is no other explanation than divine inspiration. THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
JesusIsLordEveryDay 2 years ago
leave venomfangx alone you faggots.
greener69er 2 years ago
Was Jesus just a good teacher that constructed the greatest hoax ever known to man ?? OR
Was he who he said he was? "The way, the truth, the life"
I would like to hear what you all think.
jlb06w 2 years ago
I would go for a wise man who had studied and learned, but who was also descended of Jewish Kings and therefore a political liability for those who would want to maintain the status quo in a society barely able to hang on during the occupation of their country by a foriegn power.
Through political machinations he was executed and elevated to martyrdom status by his followers who took his entire life completely out of context and developed a religion around him.
CanadianoftheCoast 2 years ago
You can only hope this to be true.
jlb06w 2 years ago
dont feed the trolls
20324758 2 years ago
Christianity is a mental disorder.
A scourge on humanity.
judoyodan 2 years ago
No,
Humans are the disorder.
Christ is the answer.
Broaden your perspective chief.
jlb06w 2 years ago
lol...that is laughable.
Your "Christ" is a myth.
The answer is truth.
The best thing you could do, "Chief", is to let go of your delusion. Anybody over the age of five with an invisible friend, has issues.
judoyodan 2 years ago
You hope Christ is a myth.
I don't look at it this way....but perhaps you should.
jlb06w 2 years ago
So, in your view.... Martin Luther King Jr. has issues ?
I would take that back if I were you.
jlb06w 2 years ago
"take that back" ? ? ?
What are we in, 6th grade??!!
You christians are retarded.
judoyodan 2 years ago
Yes, take that back is what I said.
Way to dodge the question though. lol
Oh and FYI,
I am a senior at the Florida State University, graduating with a double major (pre-med)...with an emphasis on research and community service.
I do remember 6th grade though. I was a little ball of sin.
jlb06w 2 years ago
But what really makes your religion right, and other religions wrong? they have the same amount of evidence as you, except they have less followers. You dont seem open to the possibility that there isnt God, therefore he will forever stay real in your mind. I can claim to live above you in another plane of existence, its not true, but i can say it and believe it honestly.
I respect your opinions, dont think i dont. I hope you have a successful life, as every educated person should.
flamingpanda23 2 years ago
2+2 = 4 and it always will.
God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.
Evil is real. Jesus is even more real than evil.
You are either of Christ, or you are anti-Christ.
Its not a question of who it is right or wrong. It is the one in which the truth has manifested itself and observation of the real miracles Jesus has performed in so many lives.
Remember, a prayer is a plea...not a demand. And the prayers of a rightous man/woman of God are powerful.
jlb06w 2 years ago
wait the way of thinking you are either following christ or against him is the most retarded way of thinking for the sake of talking about religion what about the religions such as Islam who see jesus as a prohet himself but not the son of god or Judasim who don't see 'jesus' as 'gods' son. And you say "god is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow" so what happened before christianity came around i'd say 1900 years ago give or take, and why wasn't christianity in other places in the world
MattCFC300 2 years ago
Polarised viewpoints usually deny the area in between and therefore the possibility of being wrong.
CanadianoftheCoast 2 years ago
Read the book of James. Then we can talk about the area in between.
jlb06w 2 years ago
*sigh* You know, I just got told the same thing about the Qur'an from a Muslim...
Don't you guys ever form an opinion outside of what it says in your Holy books?
I hate to tell you this, but no matter what one reads there will always be a different interpretation.
CanadianoftheCoast 2 years ago
2+2=5 look i can change all logic by simply stating it in an open forum. Exactly like the Bible did in the world. Obviously no being can create something out of nothing, it defies everything we know about everything. God Creating the Earth is like me giving you a skittle and saying "here make it into a Ferrari" Evil and Good are just labels given to Morally just and unjust activities, i can kill thousands (like God did) and call it morally just, because i can. Its not true, but i can say it is.
flamingpanda23 2 years ago
He became sin, who knew no sin, so that we might become His rightousness. He humbled himself and carried the cross. This is a love that I cannot keep to myself. I am not pushing anything on anyone. It is a choice! That is the point ! A loving father would let His sons and daughters make their own decisions.
I am excited about how love became a man. This is why I share with you all on this specific video. Not because of the video, but because there might be some lost that could be found.
jlb06w 2 years ago
Your talking about Jesus correct? because the labels "He and Him" dont really give me much idea what the hell your talking about, im going to put it simply in the form of a paradox and the form of a riddle. It would be nice if you answered both.
Paradox: If God claimed to give us free will, how can you believe he "has a plan for us"
Riddle: Why would God create himself in human form, to sacrifice himself, to himself. Wouldnt it be easier to just say "Your all forgiven for sin, were cool now"
flamingpanda23 2 years ago
I suppose we should all be grateful that morons like this guy were born in a (reasonably) civilised society so that all they do is rant on youtube. If this guy (or jlb06w by the sounds of it) were born in an Arab country, they'd likely have blown themselves (and innocent people) up by now to prove their extreme religious fanaticism.
Youtube away Christian Taliban. Just stay away from the IED's and C4. Oh, and airliners...
Scudmuncher 2 years ago
jlb06w, if there is a god (and on all evidence and probability there isnt) he would surely rather we came to our own conclusions on his/her/its existence based on reason, logic and sound proof than to just blindly follow some ancient story book.
And yes, I will live it up. Thats the whole point of being alive. I pity the zealots who think of their only proven existence as merely a waiting room to another.
Scudmuncher 2 years ago
No, logic and sound proof does support the Christian belief of The LORD GOD. The Bible is supported by archeology and history and science all over.
Check it out: Isaiah prophecied about King Cyrus the Great's emergence three centuries earlier. That proves the Bible is divinely-inspired and therefore completely true. And Jesus is a true, historical figure by the way. How long has the fact of King Cyrus' prophecy been around? Do you atheists believe now? No. Go figure. JESUS loves you.
JesusIsLordEveryDay 2 years ago
@JesusIsLordEveryDay
PEOPLE DONT FEED THE TROLL
20324758 2 years ago
Sorry, but I'm just trying to prove the Bible is true the way atheists are clamoring for, that is logic. Isaiah's prophesied about King Cyrus the Great three centuries before King Cyrus the Great came around. That proves the Bible is divinely-inspired and completely true. I should figure that they would believe by now since they claim to believe in logic, but obviously they don't. Believe in logic that is. THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you all.
JesusIsLordEveryDay 2 years ago
Wait your trying to say that the Bible is true so the parts in the bible which state that Genocide is an acceptable thing and Slavery is fine and alot more other horrible things. The world would be better off without religion. No holy wars leading to pointless deaths, no Spanish Inquisition. no wars between Protestants and Catholics alot better off you see. No such thing as God and no Historical evidence for Jesus at all none whatsoever. and show evidence for Isaiah claim.
MattCFC300 2 years ago
Unfortunately, you don't know the Bible well enough to interpret it correctly. From what I see you just come up with things wrong which actually aren't as typical atheists do.
And you have baseless false statements. No historical evidence for THE LORD GOD JESUS. Funny. History itself and historians all disprove your baseless statement on that. All you and other atheists can come up with against the historicity of THE LORD GOD JESUS is baseless statements.
THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
JesusIsLordEveryDay 2 years ago
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yusbarrett 2 years ago
Isaiah's prophesied about King Cyrus the Great three centuries before King Cyrus the Great came around. That proves the Bible is divinely-inspired and therefore completely true.
I just proved to you historically and logically that the LORD GOD JESUS is true. Do you believe now? Hopefully you do for your own sake. You are sending yourself to the bad place if you don't. THE LORD GOD is not sending you there.
HE is a merciful and compassionate GOD and THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
JesusIsLordEveryDay 2 years ago
you've not answered any of the other questions and btw the later part of the book was written after Cyrus appeared so that logic is flawed. So once again Christians fall.
MattCFC300 2 years ago
So, a men prophesied that another men will be born and will become king.
Damn, that sounds hard to do.
ChaosAngel667 2 years ago
Have you ever done it?
Did you know hundreds of statements are made regarding the comming of Christ.
The time, date, place, events in the order they were written to precise detail.
Descriptions so detailed many hundreds of years in advance.
If you have this kind of skill i would love to hear more from you.
If not i will have to accept your talking crap, no offence.
And yes God does love you all, even if i'm a little unsure why myself.
Anyways.
God bless.
darknight7002 2 years ago
Of course I can, look at this.
PEOPLE, IN 100 YEARS A MEN WILL BORN, AND WILL BECOME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
ChaosAngel667 2 years ago
Wow really?
Now described the man in detail, how he will live his life in detail, tell us his name and where he is going to be born and the events surrounding him in detail that will take place in when he is.
Also tell us the exact words he will speak etc. etc. etc.
Oh you can't ok.
darknight7002 2 years ago
I did it as good as your fairy tale book does. Want more precision?
He will be loved by the people where he borned, he will have many enemies but more friends. Important people would want him to lose the elections, but the people will vote for him because he inspire confidence. All his family will be united the day of the elections and will hear the news together.
Beat ya.
ChaosAngel667 2 years ago
jesus will not be returning because he never existed
bucko60 2 years ago
Actually, the bible is not the word of god. Back then, there were hundreds of scripts about god, with hundreds of prophecies.
Eventually someone started gathering all of those books and made a "prototype" of the bible.
The church to counter attack this, made an edited version that fitted to its ideology.
So the bible is not the word of god, but the edited version of what man best preferred. the scripts were selected and edited for people to read it.
yusbarrett 2 years ago
Gosh i wish there was enough time in a day.
I wish i was able to speak on the phone or something i could refute you all in minutes without having to use errors and lies that you all seem to clearly be using as the foundations to your arguments.
Because there is so little truth in what your saying based on the fact you have no scriptual knowledge let alone understanding of historical documents and facts. Its hard to debate with those fools of you which sadly have closet minds.
darknight7002 2 years ago
Never have i seen a breed such as the Atheists here tonight to openly lie and misquote anything and all they say.
Lie after lie, shocking.
Its shame really.
darknight7002 2 years ago
All you have are baseless statements. Please learn logic. The LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
JesusIsLordEveryDay 2 years ago
no historical evidence for jesus at all the only place he is mentioned in is the bible. which also by the way says Slavery and Genocide is ok
MattCFC300 2 years ago
You are horribly educated...
jlb06w 2 years ago
@jlb06w
your religion and state of mind is fail
MattCFC300 2 years ago
To be honest with you.... you are actually fulfilling biblical prophecy and strengthening my faith.
Thank you for that.
May God bless you and your family.
And may God have mercy on your soul...
Expand your perspective on the caliber of Jesus' sacrifice.
jlb06w 2 years ago
Keep living in your dream world, and false hope and the deluded illusion you call life
MattCFC300 2 years ago
I see that you are a big fan of Nirvana. You realize that your idol (Kurt Cobain) had the intellect to realize there is a God...
And yes, I will continue to live the life Christ has given me, and yes, I will continue to believe that there is eternal life. And yes, I will believe that there is a place with no more fears, no more pain, and no more tears.
Our souls are here on this earth...but they are in trial. Much like a court room....but on a greater scale.
Be Prepared for the Lord.
jlb06w 2 years ago
wow you couldn't be more wrong Kurt never believed in god at all. xD be prepared for the Lord xD. What do you make about the commandents in the bible which state that Genocide is fine and Slavery is fine and it says how to treat your slave what do you make of that ?
MattCFC300 2 years ago
You are obviously very confused and you are reading only what you want to read. Go back, read it again and make sure to observe the context in which it is written.
Don't read the Bible, see the word "death", and then jump on your "jump to conclusions mat" Everything in the old testament points to a savior, that is, Jesus.
" I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."
-CS Lewis
jlb06w 2 years ago
Amen !
jlb06w 2 years ago
A very simple flaw in the prophecy-fulfillment argument is that foreseeing the future doesn't necessarily prove divine guidance. I'll talk more about this in another argument, but right now I'm interested in the evidence for these prophecies and scientific proof you talk about.
The idea of a personal God seems very improbable to most scientists I know, it takes more than a fulfilled prophecy here and there to prove the existence of the supernatural.
Boeu13 2 years ago
We can sit here and argue all day with our petty semantics...pure boredom
What we cannot argue is the real experience that I had when I came to know Christ.
I pray that you would lay down your petty arguments that try and explain away God and draw closer to Him...He will...I promise you, draw near to you and you will feel it.
He is, He was, He always will be. No matter what. I know how it feels to just live the way you want,.but the truth is, that feeling is the peak of deception.
jlb06w 2 years ago
@jlb06Iw
I feel sorry for anyone that wastes their life/time on something like religion like you're doing on this video's comment page.
Truth118 2 years ago
Then I should feel sorry for you too my brother.
jlb06w 2 years ago
@jlb06w
Interesting way you think.
Please don't drag me into a childish argument.
Truth118 2 years ago
I had a similar experience when I left Christianity. So what?
Dawkins is correct. If you want to believe in that, go ahead, but don't force it upon others. (And if you think you're not trying to do that here, then why all the comments?)
Why all the comments from me? I'm calling hypocrisy out.
CanadianoftheCoast 2 years ago
ok, firstly, every religious text in every religion is supposedly divinely inspired. They cant all be true. How have you proven jesus to be a true and historical figure? The bible says the world is about 5000 years old. I suppose you believe that too?
Archeology doesnt support the bible. It shows evolution, dinosaurs, an earth that is billions of years old... THAT is history and science. This is why they aren't allowed to teach creationism in schools... It breeds morons.
Scudmuncher 2 years ago
The bible is not a science book , jack.
God is not bound by time.
We are.
Mature your soul to know Christ and to make Him known.
You cannot have love without truth.
Believe me when I say, you will have to give an account for your life on the day of judgment.
Be prepared brother.
jlb06w 2 years ago
/agreed
And anyway the DNA record shows quite clearly the migration of humans beginning in Africa something like 150,000 years ago, arriving in the general "cradle of civilization" area something like 40,000 years after that.
Either think of the bible conceptually and philosphically, without the encumbrance of literalism, or go with the literalism, but be prepared for people to challenge your views.
bushonomics 2 years ago
If logic proves the existence of god then that kills faith. the two are not compatible.
BTW, you can't use the Bible as sound proof of anything. It is a highly debatable book.
CanadianoftheCoast 2 years ago
It is a fact, and it is agreeable among historians all over the world, that Jesus walked this earth and over 40 authors wrote 60 books that told of his glory... WITHOUT contradiction.
This is a miracle in itself.
jlb06w 2 years ago
If it is a fact, then I pity you your loss of faith.
You see, by making it a fact you have reduced the need for faith and therefore given up the reasons for spiritual development.
Not only that, you have opened up your religion to attack on a factual basis. Nothing from 2000 years ago will escape debate. This will further weaken your religion in the eyes of others.
...and it doesn't matter how many authors have written books on it. That just means there is more to debate.
CanadianoftheCoast 2 years ago
You are completely missing the greater picture.
Step back, look at the world and all of its inequity, see the world through the eyes of a blind man. Doesnt it sound busy? The media promoting lies...commercials telling us how we are supposed to do things... The things of this earth are that of deception. When I read the bible, I am freed from these things because it tells me not to love the world or anything in it. Set your eyes on Christ and take a step out onto the water.
He loves you.
jlb06w 2 years ago
Yet, there are many who see the Bible as another tissue of lies. To use your analogy, the makers of the television commercials see the truth in that their products are the key to getting things done. There is always more than one way of looking at things.
Yo tell me to look at Christ. I have. I was a Christian once. It is not my path.
I found a different way and it accepts all other ways as being equal, including Christianity and Atheism.
CanadianoftheCoast 2 years ago
Wide is the road that leads to destruction. Narrow is the gate that leads to life.
No one can come to the Father except through His son Jesus.
I am sorry to inform you that there are not other ways to enter the kingdom of heaven besides accepting Jesus as your Lord and savior.
Again, you have made the choice. Did God strike you down for that? NO. There is hope for every man no matter where they are in their lives.
jlb06w 2 years ago
Actually, no offence, but I'm pretty sure you have little understanding of the choices I have made.
There are hundreds of ways to interpret scripture. You say accept Jesus, but how many other Christians would say accept THEIR (apologies for the caps, there's no italics) version of Jesus or don't be accepted into heaven?
I'll continue on my own path, thank you very much.
CanadianoftheCoast 2 years ago
Right on, keep on preaching, brother. The LORD GOD JESUS bless you.
JesusIsLordEveryDay 2 years ago
Yeah, but neither did Zeus, or Allah or Quetzalcoatl striked you for not believing in them
What makes you sure that jaweh is no different from all those pagan gods? Are you gonna say "cuz everyone believes in him"? everyone believed in zeus and look at things now. Are you gonna say "cuz it brings me hope"? well i have news for you, the fact that something makes you good, doesn't mean its true.
The believers in Allah grants them hope, but that doesnt makes his god true, neither does yorus.
yusbarrett 2 years ago
The ironic thing is... I used to think the exact same way you do... God changed me from the inside out and I now see life from a new perspective... One that provides hope for all through faith in Jesus Christ who did walk this earth, was crucified, died, and resurrected. It is through the caliber of this sacrifice that I have a greater understanding of our PURPOSE here.
jlb06w 2 years ago
@jlb06w what is our purpose then?
Swidhelm 2 years ago
To know God and to make Him known through loving others. To be inspired by the splendor of His creation. To love your neighbor as yourself. To question your motives when you do something "good" for society. To mature our souls within the walls of our flesh. To come to know Christ as our Lord and Savior. WITHOUT TRUTH THERE IS NO LOVE.
jlb06w 2 years ago
Hm, my purpose is my family and friends, my art, learning, loving, protecting, etc. Mind I don't have a god, nor do I believe one exists. My purpose is directed by me, and my loved ones.
Swidhelm 2 years ago
Each one of those things are gifts from God. To say that purpose is directed by you and your loved ones is partially true...but recognizing that you are work of His hands can give you a much deeper meaning and thankfulness for what you have.
Generating your own purpose is actually becoming your own God. If everyone did this, there would be total chaos because there are people who would challenge what is right and wrong (Hitler, Stalin) only to find death and destruction.
jlb06w 2 years ago
I prefer to take credit for my own work and credit those who contribute as well. I annoys me to no end when someone works hard for something, or survives a near death experience as a result of training, rescue workers, etc, but then thanks god. That undermines our own abilities, and belittles who and what we are. And Hitler and Stalin . . they committed acts not unlike the Hebrew's slaughter of the Canaanites at the behest of your god.
Swidhelm 2 years ago
You're wrong all evidence and probability state there is a GOD and HE is the LORD JESUS.
"ok, firstly, every religious text in every religion is supposedly divinely inspired. They cant all be true."
I just proved to you through logic, history, and archaeology that the Bible is true because of Isaiah's prophecy which is actually THE LORD JESUS' prophecy. Of course, the other so called religions are not true. Christianity is true and states the others aren't. Christianity is not a religion.
JesusIsLordEveryDay 2 years ago
@JesusIsLordEveryDay lmao at this guy
untrueman 2 years ago
Your ad hominem shows you are a nonsense user. Excuse me for speaking the truth in love. The LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
JesusIsLordEveryDay 2 years ago
@JesusIsLordEveryDay YOU ARE WRONG!
All evidence state that the only god is Zeus!
I just proved you thought logic, history and achraeology (whatever that is) that the Iliad is TRUE!
ChaosAngel667 2 years ago
@chaosangel667,
Your nonsense just shows you are a nonsense user.
Check it out: Isaiah prophesied about King Cyrus three centuries before he was born. Do you think any man can do this by himself? No, only a man inspired by the LORD GOD JESUS could do this. This proves the Bible is divinely inspired and therefore true. And that means THE LORD GOD JESUS is true.
I just logically proved THE LORD GOD JESUS is true unlike your nonsense. THE LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
JesusIsLordEveryDay 2 years ago
Your baseless statements show you to be a nonsense user. Excuse me for speaking the truth in love. The LORD GOD JESUS loves you.
JesusIsLordEveryDay 2 years ago
Comparing jesus against... lets say my dog.
Jesus:
Omnipotent, he loves me, he died for me, he can walk over the water and turn water to wine (excellent for parties).
Dog:
He is real
DOG WINS.
ChaosAngel667 2 years ago
Who are you to say who didn't exist?
ledsabbath165 2 years ago
@ledsabbath165 I am god.
I dare you to prove me wrong.
ChaosAngel667 2 years ago
That music.....urgg...I cant bare it
0121ryanh117 2 years ago
"VFX spends 20 min in a torturous rant."
A rant which the ones who claim to be open minded don't want to hear, because it doesn't fit their own plans for their lives.
Soul4JC 2 years ago
stupid slave.
SuperUnbeliever 2 years ago
Name calling. Another characteristic of the closed minded.
Soul4JC 2 years ago
Jesus loves you and your family. Repent brother.
I pray that that the "Un" prefix would be removed from your name.
Eternal life is the promise of Jesus Christ, the one who died for each and every one of us.
I would rather live a life to serve Jesus and find out he does not exist , than to live a life not serving Jesus and then......find out that He does exist. Please search your heart.
jlb06w 2 years ago
Joe, why do you push your beliefs onto other people? Do you have any good evidence to back them up?
Boeu13 2 years ago 2
I beg you, please believe me when I say that this life is not the end but the beginning. You feel pushed through text...consider it a miracle, for God is stimulating the void in your heart. Broaden your perspective on what Jesus has done for you and I.
God is the father to the fatherless, the strength to the weak and the nourishment to the soul. We are His Joy. In the wonderful words of C.S. Lewis, "Joy is the serious business of heaven" .
I type from the heart brother. Love ya man
jlb06w 2 years ago
People of similar religions will say the same thing about their god or gods. That's not real evidence, all it proves is that you've been brainwashed by other people who want to force their primitive beliefs onto the world.
Have you really ever thought about it, lay in bed and questioned why you believe everything an ancient, self-contradictory book tells you? Have you even read the entire bible?
Can you even tell me why you think it's logical for me to believe it?
Boeu13 2 years ago
It is actually quite simple.
In the realm of Jesus among other gods, I can tell you this truth.
ALL OTHER RELIGIONS POINT TO A SET OF PRINCIPLES AND A FORMULA THAT ONE MUST USE TO ATTAIN SALVATION. THE DIFFERENCE WITH CHRIST IS THAT.....HE IS THE PRINCIPLE AND IT IS ONLY BY GRACE THAT WE ARE SAVED....NOT BY WORKS SO THAT NO MAN CAN BOAST.
jlb06w 2 years ago
What other religions have you studied besides the Abrahamic based?
My religion is not about attaining salvation, because we are not "sinners". Salvation is not required. You speak like you have studied something but base your statements upon assumption.
... so quit boasting about being Christian.
CanadianoftheCoast 2 years ago
i like the way Sagan put it: "It is far better to understand the Universe the way it really is, than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
kristopopins 2 years ago 2
so.....basically his response is typical dawkins response.
"i dont have a flying clue how to disprove or provide any rationality, other than to just say that your stupid" haha post modern atheism cant even stand on its own. way to use rationality.
also its called positivism it was real popular in the 50's made by atony flew who supported it in theology and falsification an actual smart atheist
sgtOOX 2 years ago
venomxfang websites was taken down by his parents? good job mom and dad!!
Erickaf 2 years ago 3
I deny the holy spirit.
Boeu13 2 years ago
What holy spirit are you talking about?
1imax111 2 years ago
All of them.
Boeu13 2 years ago
May God have mercy on your soul.
Live it up, sinner.
jlb06w 2 years ago
Thank you, jlb06w.
Boeu13 2 years ago
Call me Joe. : )
jlb06w 2 years ago
I only wonder why they don't fight for their biblical science. The biblical knowledge about the universe and the earth. Flat earth with 4 corners being a center of the universe, sun and moon swapping their places. After all this info was provided by the creator of it so it should disprove any modern science with no doubts. They will make an excuse again...
RetroComicHero 2 years ago
Flat earth? Which scripture were you reading from?
__________
Isaiah 40:22
"It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth.."
By the way, the Hebrew language at that time did not have a word for "sphere," only for "circle.
___________
Job 26:7
"He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing."
___________
So which scripture were you referring to?
Soul4JC 2 years ago
Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the Earth.
Job 38:13
That it might take hold of the ends of the Earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
Matthew 4:8
Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
Spheres don't have corners or ends
LazyTuba 2 years ago
Christians are always making excuses. 2000 years ago they believed that their god lived in the sky(literally - babel tower). Now when this has been disproved, they say 'Oh well, he must live outside of it then, but I am sure he is there!'. If there is any outside then I bet my balls that if we got there somehow they would say 'well if he's not here then he is somewhere else.
RetroComicHero 2 years ago
Hahaha, I love it. the poster boy for creationist stupidity... Awesome.
Scudmuncher 2 years ago
Live it up, sinner.
jlb06w 2 years ago
@jlb06w Christians make me laugh!!
0121ryanh117 2 years ago
jlb06w and 12tod are both lost men... Yet there is hope. They are 99.99% sure that Poseidon does not exist. Let us pray brothers and sisters that they will take the 0.001% chance of him existing, ant let it manifest itself so that they will not forever burn in eternal damnation. I claim this in Poseidon's name. Amen...
josephrl82 2 years ago
Jesus asked the disciple Peter, "Who do you say that I am? ". Peter replied, "The son of the living God !" ... All other gods (Allah, Poseidon, Zeus etc.) point to a set of priciples. The difference with Jesus is that HE IS THE PRINCIPLE and each and every one us must answer the question that Jesus asked us through his word.
Is Jesus just a good teacher that has pulled off the greatest hoax known to man??
Or was he really who he said he was..."The way, the truth, the life"
jlb06w 2 years ago
@jlb06w Jesus didn't do fuck all compared to his daddy.. wine in to water? cheap parlor tricks to creating the universe, huh?
fenderkid6 2 years ago
Richard Dawkins is a lost man... yet, there is hope.... He is 95% sure there is no God. Pray brothers, that he would take the 5% that he is sure of there being a God, and let it manifest itself so that he will not forever burn in eternal damnation. I claim this in Jesus' Holy name. Amen
jlb06w 2 years ago
@jlb06w is a lost man...yet there is hope...
If youre 99% sure that allah isnt real then pray islamic brothers that you take the 1% chance of him existing, and let it manifest itself so that he will not forever burn in eternal damnation. I claim this in Allahs' Holy name. Amen. ;)
12tod 2 years ago
fuck u and jesus... i deny the holy spirit
IHyRaXI 2 years ago
@IHyRaXI yeah, way to tell off a being you dont believe exists. modern atheism is pathetic, i bet you dont even know who antony flew is
sgtOOX 2 years ago
May God have mercy on your soul...
Live it up, sinner.
jlb06w 2 years ago
im not a sinner... im a humanitarian. i dont lie, i dont hurt people, i teach people, i do charities, i help poor kids in 3rd world countries get an opportunity to enter school. im not a sinner and i wasnt born a sinner. im innosent.. and according to your God, he givves no mercy to people who deny the holy spirit.. but i do deny it because ther is no proof it is real
IHyRaXI 2 years ago 2
You are wrong... And yes, you are a sinner, as am I.
I will leave you with this brother.
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are Gods workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
jlb06w 2 years ago
wow i seriously hate when people talk like this...it reminds me of midevil england......and no im not a sinner.. i havnt done anything wrong...
IHyRaXI 2 years ago 2
I don't see the disdain that is apparently in this video, I instead see people applauding a witty answer.
MrLemex 2 years ago 2
"God" is or was an alien.
DieMenschMaschine1 2 years ago
hes a homosexual.
I have met similar.Religious fervor is somehow part of his trip but essentially its just to give him an identity to obscure his sexuality.
luckylangerie 2 years ago
NICE!
JetSSuck729 2 years ago
Just realized that I really feel sorry for this guy. look at him, poor thing.
skorpen2 2 years ago
How dare these creationist refute evolution ?! the nerves on these people ! you're gonna come and tell us how the work works and deny the work of our greatest scientist ? Man these creationist should all shut the fuck up.
coffee396 2 years ago
@ coffee396
No I want them to talk and they can deny all they wish but the facts always trump even the most convoluted of arguments.
There is no offense for disputing a thing but science only listens to reason.
Also it doesn't matter if they dispute or deny the works of scientists the reality remains and trumps mysticism. The simplest proof of this is that churches have lightning rods on them, which is admitting that lightning is a natural force that is directed by rules we understand.
mordesmortes 2 years ago
Oh Richard Dawkins is the Don!
lizichell 2 years ago 3
dawkins is god.. ho no is that a sin? on no i did it again
foiran 2 years ago
Repent brother. Before it is too late. Jesus loves you and your family. He died for you, now live for Him !
jlb06w 2 years ago
People.... Time is a construct. The shift between two energy levels of cesium-133 was chosen to mark a "second of time".
Man built the construct.
Educateftw 2 years ago
Whether or not man had invented the -word- 'time' and whether or not a second was decided to be shorter or longer doesn't matter. It has absolutely no bearing on the fact that time exists.
C20H14O4ForLogic 2 years ago
Yes, the length of a second is a conceptual construct, as is the length of a metre or the weight of a kilogram, but time still flows, at least to our perception, from past to future, there is still length and there is still mass.
Bringing a label into being is not the same as bringing the object into being.
athywren 2 years ago
I can't believe that they clapped at Dawkins responce. According to the natural law of entripy time has a beginning. So there has to be a realm that is not subject to time. Since if we go back to the beginning of time, we have to realize that there was something before the beginning of time. There has to be a fourth dimension or something beyond the natural realm that is yet to be observed. That is the only explanation for time. It's impossible to explain in the natural realm.
REVELATION911 2 years ago
Time IS the 4th dimension ..
AxisAnalysis 2 years ago
Why does there? Does there have to be more box outside of a box because there is a box?
athywren 2 years ago
@athywren This dimension is subject to time my friend. Time matter and energy don't just evolve from nothing. The law of entripy tells this universe has an age. Evolutionists believe it is 15-20 billion years old. Therefore there must be a universe that is not subject to time. Time didn't just come from nothing 20 billion years ago. There has to be a spiritual and unnatural dimension outside of this one that is not subject to time and therefore it cannot be tested by laws in this unive..
REVELATION911 2 years ago
Can you provide evidence for this?...
ninjazachy06 2 years ago
to throw something spiritual and supernatural out as an explanation for something for which there is as yet no naturalistic one is terribly weak. You are perfectly in your epistemic rights to believe such a thing yourself, but you have no grounds on which to put it forward as the only reasonable alternative to a natural explanation.
WesternEstatesHOA 2 years ago
Time is an aspect of the universe, it can be seen as a dimension of it's own within it, how can we say that they must be time outside of the box when we cannot see outside it?
I can see where you're coming from, but to suggest that whatever may be 'outside' the universe, assuming there is such a thing as outside, must run by the same rules as the universe is unsupportable - we cannot investigate it, we cannot test it, we cannot know it. All we have is conjecture and that is useless.
athywren 2 years ago
Er.. what? How does it follow that because the universe has an age, there must be a universe that is not subject to time?!?!
pubuman 2 years ago
I don't think I said there is a a universe that is not subject to time. I said there is a dimension that cannot be subject to time.
Everything here is subject t time. The earth would lose its magnetic strength, the sun would burn out, Everything will turn to disorder. We don't see stars evolving. With the amount of stars we have we should see 6 million a minute evolving if the universe is 20 billion years old. But yet notta one. There is another unobserved dimension. Common sense
REVELATION911 2 years ago
"The law of entripy tells this universe has an age. Evolutionists believe it is 15-20 billion years old. Therefore there must be a universe that is not subject to time." - that's exactly what you said.. I just copy pasted it. And what are you talking about? Stars evolving? into what? You do realize that there are three different populations of stars, Pop1 we dont see anymore (they are dead) there are some pop II still observed, and the sun etc are pop III stars...
pubuman 2 years ago
The word is 'farce.'
The xtian's "argument" disproved itself. The argument was the opposite of rational.
Dawkins didn't need to respond to it, it got the answer it deserved.
You still don't get it, do ya?
Kurtzism 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Faith does not need proof. I wish you would get that. Dawkins relishes in insults and belittling those who do not believe the same as he. He is a very ugly man. Those who follow him are unaware of what they are truly doing. Blind leading the blind. And so boldly!
Pathetic.
Iamajanitor01 2 years ago
Actually, I saw no insults in Dawkins response. He stated that if you want to have a faith in something, then so be it.
However, one cannot base a rational argument on faith. It cannot be measured and therefore not proven. Subsequently, it cannot be rational.
The point he makes is that if you choose to base your opinions on faith, that's ok for you, but he wants something measureable to work with.
BTW, I am not an atheist and have a faith of my own, yet I can see his point.
CanadianoftheCoast 2 years ago 6
Actually, everyone has faith right? Nobody KNOWS that they are going to wake up in the morning. But if you thought for one second that you were not going to wake up, would you go to sleep? I doubt it. Faith is something we all have and do. Faith in itself will not help you in the end. It is what you have faith in that counts. And I did not make this up. I have nothing and am nothing outside of Christ and Him crucified. Nothing except liable for hell.
Iamajanitor01 2 years ago
Fine, but basing a rational argument on faith doesn't work. Taking your analogy, nobody knows when they are not going to wake up, unless there are other factors involved that are not in the day to day life (disease, etc.) A lifespan cannot be measured until it is over.
Yes, we have faith that we wake up in the morning, but that isn't the point. The point is that instead of blindly following, maybe we can assemble enough facts so that we don't have to use faith to improve our lives.
CanadianoftheCoast 2 years ago
I should clarify - No insults just a little disdain in an eye rolling kinda way.
(If you want insults AND disdain check out coughlan666's vids... )
Hardly unexpected, really. If you put your opinions out there, you should be ready for that kind of thing.
CanadianoftheCoast 2 years ago 2
"Faith does not need proof"
of course not!! faith is just an ilusion, believe in what you want to believe, nothing more.
You only fooling yourself.
Creationist are the most stupid people of the world, a retard leading a retard.
HAHAHAHA!!
Elohir2 2 years ago 5
Ah, but everything in this life is an illusion is it not? Only in death with the truth be know fully. Christians can at best see through the glas