Rep. Alan Grayson on Afghanistan: You Can't Win the Same War Twice

[Meadras]

Can't win the same war twice? So we didn't defeat Germany Twice? We didn't Defeat Britain Twice? If you're going to use cool-sounding metaphors, at least make them make sense

[nela04]

the war in Afghanistan was over the day usa chose to help the afghans against the Soviet, they gave them weapons and thought them the tactics, now pay for it

[matreyia]

Good point about the Afghan war. I never thought about it like that.

[fadedpatch]

Better than nothing? You've got to be kidding! Doing nothing is better than the slimy deals and payoffs we've seen. Why not insist on transparency? Why not allow health ins companies to compete? Why not insist on tort reform? Drs avoid Florida because of the liability. Find a Dr in your district who accepts medicare though you don't have to worry do you? You don't have to worry about a job. You blame Republicans for everything but the Dems have had control since Nov 06. You are a disgrace.

[pberrios0223]

I love Grayson, he pwns, he used a be a lawyer fighting against gov't ripoff's, so hes really in the mix.

[kaofpm]

Many so called conservatives hate him, but he wants to audit the Fed and bust war profiteers. He is right on everything. Grayson for President!

[TheJm8284]

For most of my 58 years, I've lived with exactly three heros: JFK, the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, and Mohammed Ali . . . The truth exuding from this man is extraordinary! Watch your ass Mr. Grayson - you need help, let us know! flash

[SherrieLeaLaird]

President Grayson is looking fine tonight!

[TaylorAmelia]

sleeve

[IranUnderground]

this guy sucks.

he's a tyrant. @SherrieLeaLaird

[diamonddave514]

your congressman is nuts

[knowledgemonger]

Unfortunately, it appears that they are about to give us something called "reform" that is designed to fail. There won't be a strong public option or negotiation of drug prices or reimportation or anything else to bend the price curve down. It will be a bad plan and when it fails, those opposed will start saying "See we told you it wouldn't work". We would be better off with nothing than the laughable thing they are calling reform.

Never hire someone to do a job who says it can't be done.

[nohealthcare62]

XCopenhagen we want Health Care like #COPENHAGEN ! 5,000 PEOPLE DIE in TEXAS from Not Having Health Care every year ! This is SILENT GENOCIED !

[myrelative]

and you still think bin laden is important?

he apparently even lost his last weapon,  his video camera.

and quite possibly, his life.

[mongobobo]

Russ Feingold said:

"This bill appears to be legislation that the president wanted in the first place, so I dont think focusing it on Lieberman really hits the truth," said Feingold. "I think they could have been higher. I certainly think a stronger bill would have been better in every respect."

[myrelative]

yeah right.

obama wanted: public option, NO compulsory insurance. remember the campaign, and his supposed disagreement with clinton?

[mongobobo]

If he wanted those things why didn't he support those in congress who wanted them too instead of those in congress who didn't? He made secret deals with big pharma back in August and has said himself that this is the bill he wants. You act like this is the first time you've ever had your heart broken by a politician.

[myrelative]

do I? then I guess I have voted for him, huh?

guess again.

[mongobobo]

Actually nothing would be much better.

[1958louief]

Health Care we send to other Countries is BETTER than we can get.... And We the Tax payer are paying for it.. WTF

[myrelative]

there are free hospitals in afghanistan built by ISAF and the US

[jrccdhetlr1]

when is this show even on? does anyone watch it?

[jessie74]

It comes on at 5:00 p.m. CST

I never miss a show.

[myrelative]

don't bother, he's the left-wing rush limbaugh.

[jo05dk]

We have a lot of parties compared to the US. Atm we have 8 parties in the "Folketing". They all receive money for elections from the state, and besides that they are allowed to receive money from voters and companies. From what i gather all the parties got something like 20-40mio$ in total during the last election. Biggest ammount received by one party during the last election was @ 5mio$. Peanuts compared to the US;-)

[jo05dk]

The real kicker is: No elected politician is allowed to receive gifts or money. Politicians are closely watched, and if it turns out they have a possible conflict of interest, they have hell to pay.

You see.. Making a donation to a single party doesn't change that much. There are to many parties for it to matter. But not being able to put money in the pockets of those who decide the cause you're fighting, makes a world of difference.

[HuntrBlackLuna]

Damn. You are lucky to be in Denmark. If I wrote in my book about a society like yours, I'm sure people here in the US would accuse me of being unrealistically utopian. Not to say I don't think you guys have your own problems, but still.

[jo05dk]

Recently some survey named us the happiest people in the world. Oprah did a thing on it, i kid you not*lol* Personally i hope there are happier people out there 'cause yeah.. We have our problems too.

My guess is that you wouldn't be called utopian if you described Denmark. Some bright guy would probably say it was a socialist story. Actually we live in a capitalistic society as you guys do. Only difference is we say that a society should be judged by the way it treats the weakest;-)

[jo05dk]

Obama and the Dem's FTL. Nothing's gonna get done. We all know it by now. Obama doesn't give a shit about the people who elected him. The White House has been laying into the Dem's trying to get them to go with Lieberman. I can't believe it. They have the majority and they can't get anything done.

[jo05dk]

I'm so lucky not being born in the US. Where i come from (Denmark) we don't allow our politicians to be bought and paid for, and we have health care for everyone. Everyone get the help they need, noone gets thrown out for any reason. But still it costs WAY less than the average american health insurance. If ony you guys knew what you're missing...

[cyoohoos]

Exactly!!! Why would Democrats would settle for something that is BETTER THAN NOTHING is beyond me.

Why they think Americans will settle for something that is BETTER THAN NOTHING is laughable. Dem reps may settle but Dem voters will revolt.

[smg1one]

All the Senate needs to do is pass a health care bill so it can go to a Congressional Conference Committee. Once a bill comes out of Conference the House and Senate have to vote on the Compromise then it can go to the President. The Senate bill isn't going to be the final bill, its just were they start negotiating from in the Conference Committee. In the meantime, if you rely care about reform, you can act like the Tea party crowd and rally on DC ... or watch them settle for Better Than Nothing

[loutcb]

agreed. thats real democracy!

[TillThenPlease]

Way to go Grayson! Very respectable sir.

[desurgeon]

Grayson for prez 2012!!!!

[danbowski40]

Ron Paul 2012! But Grayson would be an excellent addition in a Paul administration for check and balances.

[desurgeon]

if Paul ran for prez and named Grayson his VP omfg i would jizz my pants

[danbowski40]

If Ron Paul won I would jizz mine lol! But the way this current administration is going. There is a good chance of that. :)

[Yostiemonster]

grayson is so far left and Ron Paul is so far right that they have come around and met together!

[CosmicSeaman]

F-f-fuck da wife!

[connielane]

Obama has totally let his supporters down! He has totally sold out to the insurance companies and the war profiting corporations! He is the same as Bush, he just talks better.

[ccm800]

I unfortunately agree.

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

It's time for reconciliation. Go nuclear on those repukelickin assholes.

[libertyrepub]

You don't know what you are talking about. It was rascist Southern Democrats that torpedoed Civil Rights legislation.

[EPRVa62]

Racist southern democrats who all migrated to the current Republican party-Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond etc etc etc . Are you Rep. Fox from NC.? Sounds like it. Try that bullshit on someone that doesnt know better.

[superman1309]

Most is not all though. I say start over and force a plan that won't leave millions in debt and thousands dead.

[EPRVa62]

Kill the current bill and do real reform-f the republicans.

[libertyrepub]

Don't blame Republicans...Dems have 60 in the senate and an overwhelming majority in the House, plus the President.

[EPRVa62]

I do blame the Democrats and Obama for being too cowardly to say f*** the Republicans and for lacking the courage to pass real reform that the American people want. Either pass the reform with 50 votes (with Biden to break a tie if necessary) or let the f***ing Republicans, in the spirit of Strom Thurmond, filibuster 'til their hearts content, just as they did in their unsuccesful effort to derail the Civil Rights Act.

[EPRVa62]

And no there are not 60 Democrats. Loserman is an "independent" who's ass should be kicked to the curb instead of reaping the benefits of a Democratic majority in the Senate when he is clearly a Republican, bought and paid for by the insurance industry.

[libertyrepub]

I am a republican and I don't want to have anything to do with Lieberman....

[TTEchidna]

That's the only reason he has an I by his name. He's like Benedict Arnold.

[smdiddy]

Dems don't have 60 in the senate they have 56 that is why this has not been resolved. The house on the other hand passed a decent public option bill

RECONCILIATION the public option portion of the bill and have the Senate vote on the rest that everyone agrees on. But they wont do this because they are weak and "need" to have this done by 2010

[mongobobo]

The reason why you are getting this watered down legislation is because the Whitehouse and the Democratic leadership want to divert a lot of the money flowing from US Health Ins and Big Pharma away from Republicans into their own coffers. Ideas like the public option were never going to be in the bill, it was a big dog and pony show to make you feel like you have a representitive government.

[libertyrepub]

They have 60 in their caucus.

[smdiddy]

There are 57 Democrats in the Senate 40 Republicans and 2 Independents. There is one empty seat because of the death of Kennedy.

[libertyrepub]

If you have the VP all you need is 50 to pass something, so back to my original point the Dems have only themselves to blame.

[smg1one]

Your original point has no point. "The Dems have only themselves to blame" because they're the only ones debating while the Republicans have decided to be irrelevant until the next election cycle. The President pushed the agenda and The House passed a bill. The Senate only has 60 ppl in it on this issue. 58 Dems (Sen. Kirk has Kennedy's seat) an empty suet from Connecticut a socialist from Vermont and 40 empty seats.

[smdiddy]

I am not pleased with the so called Democrats but lets not forget there are 40 other Senator's oh wait no there isnt because they blindly agree with each other.

And I was going to point out the same things that smg1one did.

[EcrossH]

fucking love Grayson

[bdazzzle]

my close friend was in afghanistan when they first took it over and he said it was easier than training; they marched thru there like a knife thru butter. all we're doing is babysitting oil, everything else you hear is bullshit

[myrelative]

gas stations should change their prices to something like:

3 $s and 0.000174 americans a gallon.

[marniespeaks]

hero