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  • I stopped watching after 2:43 This idiot obviously has no idea that a mac is just pc parts in a shiny case and a different OS.

  • actually your right, yo can't take a bunch of parts, put in a case, and make it the same as a mac pro. You can make it better.

  • Ok you fuckhead. If you don't want your client to see your shitty PC, buy a better case. Antec Performance One cases will fuck up any Mac Pro chassis. And Adobe's creative suite products are supposed to compliment each other. If you are a real editor, buy the whole suite. After Effect will shove it's dick up Final cut pro's ass any day. And I would love to see an image editor as comprehensive as photoshop that is specific to mac.

  • why does this idiot even speek.....IBM was the first PC not Mac you fucking dumbass

  • You are retarded, you said it is fine if he goes out and builds a computer that he custom tailored for a certain task. Then the next sentence you knock him down for doing just that! He built the computer and popped specific parts into it for the purpose of helping his video editing, that's great, I don't see why you have a problem with that since you said it fine your self!

    In the end, who cares what computer he uses; If it works for the intended job it's great. You need to understand that

  • dude do you have heating in your room

  • £600 - HP P6235UK (2.66GHz) Core i5 750 NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1GiB 4GiB DDR3 RAM 640GiB SATA HDD Wireless Keyboard and Mouse 15 in 1 memory card reader £1,899.00 - Mac Pro (2.66GHz) Quad-Core Intel Xeon NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MiB 3GiB DDR3 RAM 640GiB SATA HDD Wired Keyboard and Mouse
  • HP machines are used in most UK businesses and enterprises because of the OS-agnostic support (they don't care if you use Windows, Linux or Solaris).

    There's an OEM build that shows how much of a rip-off the Mac Pro is.

  • @MartynHare thats one poor PC.

  • I'm always flying around the world... I'm in Sweden right now.. it's still not available out of the US but they say they are working feverishly on it... I look forward to using lala because it kinda reminds me of napster.

  • 100% agree with you on the hacked together machines! Totally 90's when it was cost effective to do so! All the people that hack computers together are always the newbies.

  • What do you mean "hacked together computers"? Even your beloved Mac has most of the internal parts manufactured by a 3rd party. The CPU, RAM, Mobo, HDD, PSU, and Optical drives are all 3rd party. And I don't know where Crapple Soldier got this idea that just because you build it yourself, it must be flimsy and not work correctly, while an OEM system would work flawlessly. He is an idiot.

  • Oh, and something else, a custom build is still more cost effective than a retail system. This isn't a benefit that diminished going into the 21st century.

  • @JacobMac01 I payed about 1.2k for a computer I could have bought from a PC OEM for around 2k or apple for around 3k. The cost advantage is there, no doubt about that. I also used high quality parts (XFX XXX edition GPU, Gigabyte MoBo, G-skill RAM, Hitachi HDD, Antec Case and PSU, LG optical). Those are, at the minimum, as of good of quality as ASUS and Apple, but I payed half as much .

    If you don't know what I'm talking about then you are the newbie here!

  • "Uploads in the background*

    No thanks.

  • emeek77 =)

  • Is it just me or dose emeek look a bit stoned

    on the other subject macs are always behind p.c

    imac : No blueray

    mac book pro ram max 1033mhz pc 1333mhz

    imac no hdmi out

    imac no esata

    simply always behind but hey theres some aluminum if you like it

  • Sure a home built pc wont be as quality as an OEM machine. Tho, A dual Nehalem Mac Pro with 24GB ram and decent gfx is over £5300.

    A Dell (OEM) workstation with newer/faster Dual Nehalem cpus with 32GB ram, even better gfx and bluray burner(which isnt even available from Apple) is only £3170?

    So £2k more because the Mac comes with a skinned version of freeware UNIX?...

    Then warranty. £200 for 3 years from Apple.. £85 from Dell for 3 years that covers the exact same hardware?..

  • "OS10" lol, wow gangasta!

  • I love the way this nut tell us about how apple are above "Nice", how apple adds class to the user... and then you see how this tool runs his crap from his cheap geto crappy bedroom?

    Oh... applfites are funny!

  • Apple sell something for 10c? Bullshit Radar on! Apple have found another way to ripoff the applfities.

  • All I care about is the benchmarks and performance:)

    Yes I know aesthetic appearance can make a nice impression but when it comes to pure performance a good custom build will be just as good if not better then a Mac.

    It might look like a"homemade bomb"(LOL!!),But it will still be THE BOMB performance wise:p

    I like the cabeless design though:)

  • Final Cut Pro is not a superior editing software or some sht that you say...if you think that, then it means that you haven't tried other software.

    Also, you have no fcking clue as to why workstations use Xeon do you? ever heard of ECC memory?

  • hahahahaha people still use macs >.>

  • 2:10 'Anywhere in the world'.

    I just tried it out and all I heard was spoken message saying "Welcome to lala . com. Music for international users will be available soon' in English, Spanish and French.

    So it's not anywhere in the world just yet. As Emeek is in the US, I guess that's where Lala can be used.

    I wonder if Apple will integrate Lala's subscription service into iPods? So one can enjoy all the music without a computer or internet connection, and hear it wherever you go.

  • i agree ! MAC FTW. u can mod a pc to make it look / work better but its still a pc ! a mac is a mac !

  • And what makes the Mac superiour to a PC?

  • stability.

  • Macs have an efficient operating system....

  • @Ameeran5:

    You mean that OSX is what makes a Mac superiour?

    Thats funny. Because I am typing this, using Firefox, running Snow Leopard, on a PC. ;)

  • @sn0le: right? So your point is you love OS X so much that you have it running on your PC because you can't afford a Mac?

    And also sn0le, shall you try to reply to me, you will be introduced to BLOCK-VILLE where all my happy dick head haters sent, FREE OF CHARGE!

    ... oh wait, you could be my first and only customer so far :)

    Good day Mac wannabe, glad to meet losers sometimes :)

  • @Ameeran5:

    Sure I can afford a Mac. But with a custom built PC I can get the options I want.

    iMac isn't the right machine for me. And the Mac Pro is overkill.

    Since Apple doesn't have anything in the middle, I just built it my self.

    Btw, it takes one to know one. ;)

  • your not running it legally and if your running it it probly cant use all the features

  • @killers1snoop:

    Legally schmegally. ;)

    As long as the only alternatives Apple has to offer me is either a Mac Mini (not powerful enough) and Mac Pro (professional Workstation) this is my solution.

    I don't want the all-in-one iMac.

    And the only feature I know of that doesn't work on my Hackintosh is sleep mode.

    It is fixable with a sleepenabler, but my desktop is on 24/7 so I haven't bothered.

  • hay appleslave. do you still think windows ruins hardware??... yes or no?

  • Apple throws budget parts into shiny cases and charge 4x as much as its worth yet its still as slow as a 2 year out of date pc.

    Then for 1/2 the price u could get a Nehalem cpu pc with 12GB ram, Bluray drive and gtx280, With 3 year warranty.

    Sure Macs are shiny n are coloured like kitchen appliances with freeware UNIX installed, Tho a pc for 1/2 the price will have over 2x the performance.

    What really matters? Slow fake tan looks(Mac) or best raw power available for less than 1/2 the price?

  • another newb who just dont get it. Did you listen to the video at all dude? You cant put 4 wheels on a frame and call it a car.

  • True, Tho what about a Dell (OEM) Laptop that has over 2x the spec as the base Macbook yet costs 1/3 the price?... An alloy case or shiny freeware BSD UNIX isnt going to make it magically more powerful....

    For $2500 you will get a Macbook that has the same exact hardware inside as a $500 year old laptop... Also, 95% of OSX is borrowed from freeware GNU software too so its not that that makes Macs expensive...

    So where does the extra $2k go in the system? Not in the hardware or Os anyways..

  • @AppleSoldier another idiot that doesn't understand anything about technology.

  • You can build a Mac Pro with custom parts regardless of what you think.

    Adobe Premier Pro CS4 is more powerful than FCP.

  • My comment about servers was directed at

    XXASCII808XX not Emeek77 I have no clue why it posted at the top I clicked reply

  • I have a slight feeling that Apple is going to try to integrate the Lala service with MobileMe. They would probably add a Music tab next to the iDisk and the Photos section in MobileMe. However that would probably piss a lot of people off if they had to pay $99.99 a year so maybe not.

  • The ease of use, the class of quality, and the durability of a Mac Pro out weighs anything of a custom built PC.

  • this shit is getting retarded. move the fuk on damnit stop talking about the same stupid shit on every vid.

    and this lala bs is dumb people have been making there own ftp folders for years, i already got all my music anywhere i have an internet connection.

    frankly its sad that apple is just now catching on.

  • Apple owns the largest distributor of online music. They don't need to set the bar they own the bar.

  • Sound like a duck...must be a duck. lol

  • when I see a mac i just fap *new apple slogan*

  • Guys when will you understand that custom built PCs are not the same as OEMs? Custom builds will NEVER have the Apple logo. The Apple logo increases the performance of the computer by 300%

  • sarcastic or not sarcastic? im BEGGING to know

  • thats what all mac users say, macs are not pcs...lol, and pcs look better than macs...

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  • If PC stands for Personal Computer, is not a Mac technically someone's personal computer?

  • @jshaw6000

    Pc not only stands for Personal Computer, it can also stand for Portable Computer, etc....

    But yes, a Mac is a PC.

  • mac was the FIRST pc so anything after is just a copy

  • Uh no, Macs were not the first PC. They were one of the first 3 that was a commercial success.

  • @AppleSoldier

    So by bashing PCs you're bashing Macs as well. Maybe you should think more before you post. ;)

  • @AppleSoldier what the heck, make up your mind, is mac a pc or not?

  • AppleSoldier, i admit your videos are great,.

    but you seriously need to stop that pc vs mac shit........

  • WHAT what is his name apple soldier thats like telling car companies not to tell other people that their cars are better. he made this account to dispute between mac and PC's

  • yet if you search his name on youtube, their all hate videos.

    spare him, quit with the mac vs pc shit.

  • @pacorocks1 The 'mac vs pc shit' is popular and IMO can be quite entertaining. No one really takes it too seriously do they? It's only computers.

    Notice how AppleSoldier is a YouTube partner, getting paid by YouTube/Google, and has many subscribers.

    Most of the haters are not YouTube partners and have few subscribers.

    Haters come with the territory anyway such is the nature of a site like YouTube.

  • @mukatuna, uh, sure i agree with you its popular and entertaining.

    but some people can't even give a valid statement, and in a lot of videos, that applesolder did, didn't prove a valid an actual worthy point,.

  • Well I think you have a chip on your shoulder as the market share says different. If Macs are that good and the price cant be beaten and the OS is so good. Then why do apple have less than 10% of the market and make more money off the phones.

    I will tell you why it's cause your full of shit and a fan boy it's that simple and you make money from making stupid video's day in and day out while getting your nose brown from Steve jobs.

  • i can explain it a little for you. one its att, 2 vzion, 3 is price, 4 most ppl dont need a phone like that, 5 etc.

    as for why os x isnt where microsoft is... thats a long story but its all starts when bill gates forgot to right a ribbon for the competition for the contract. his os didnt even work with the printer. but guess who got the contract out of all the hundreds of ppl that had working ribbons... bg. i know the reason but ive run out of space. applesoldier prolly knows. make a vid on this

  • mac is like canada we care for are people. usa are like pcs a big miss trying to make money off people like heathcare. everone hates the usa lol.

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  • I'm a canadian everyone please dont listen to this guy it makes Canadians look like asses but were not .. "everone hates the usa" ... wow get a life i'm part japanese and mostly arabian (lebanese) and have been living in canada for 17 years and no one "hates the usa" they might disagree with their view on world affairs but thats all .. so please stop promoting hate, thank you ..

  • I'm in la la land sometimes.

  • umm isnt the point to cary around a cool fun looking ipod and listen to your music....

  • BTW, I posted two links (three hours ago) of professional video shops (in hollywood no less) that use Avid + Premier Pro, no sign of FCP . I also posted a link to a professional shop that not only doesnt use Mac's, they have custom built PC's.  Applesoldier deleted them because the links OWNED him and he is embarrassed. Fucking prick

  • @FrankRizzo6662, could you post the links again, I'd like to see them, or just pm me if you have time.

  • There are plenty of professional places that are doing video production that use PP and not FCP. Same is true with using custom built PC's.  I don't think AS knows anything about video production in the real world. In addition, does he think he impresses clients with his machine in a bedroom? Get real man

  • @FrankRizzo6662

    Eric has a separate channel for tutorials on video editing and from what I've seen of his work, I'd say he's a professional.

    I've worked at a few local production studios with custom built PCs, but have you ever worked at a broadcasting station?

    In college I interned at Sony Studios & at ABC and they both had OEM workstations along with super computers to handle real-time video rendering. There's a huge difference in the level of professionalism and performance.

  • @DCuerpoJr - Yes, I have been in the video industry (as a programmer for special effects) since the mid 80's. Back then it was Amiga, then I was Mac (at Adobe) and now PC for the past 10 years. So yes, I have well over 25 years in video (and 3d rendering) background.

  • In addition,

    FCP didn't become popular with professional studios until 2004-2005. Avid's Media Composer & Xpress Pro were more popular when I was in college (2002).

    Xpress Pro was discontinued last year because it wasn't compatible with Vista and Avid moved most of its features into future versions of Media Composer. As of 2007, 49% of all profession production studios use Final Cut Pro compared to Avid's 22%.

  • Heres an interesting question, didnt you make a video about a week ago comparing parts you found to an iMac and the parts are coming out more expensive than the iMac, but when we pc fan boys do the same and come out hundreds of dollars cheaper, you scream "you cant compare oem with a custom pc!" Sounds like you are challenging us, and then run crying "you cant do that" when we actually beat you in your little game.

  • No it's cuz AdobePC bashed his video using cheap ass parts and then said it's just like the Mac Pro when the video was comparing the iMac

  • I agree if somebody has a shitty computer like adobepc i would walk right out. The professionalism matters.

  • I really love lala and with apple buying it all I see is nothing but good coming from this!

  • A custom computers is totally different to a OEM computers and OEM gives off a different mind set when a client see's the OEM they will think your a professional i'm not bashing custom computers mine is just out in the job world OEM says good things

  • @arranmc182

    You're exactly right.

    Professional work environments matter a great deal in building future client relations. Using respectable and recognizable OEM workstations (Mac Pro's & HP Z's) along with high end audio/video equipment makes a big selling point to clients.

    It's like hiring an attorney to represent you. Would you hire on that drives a 1990 Kia and lives in a run down apt or one that drives a brand new Aston Martin and owns a mansion on the waterfront?

  • You fols are stupid as fuck. Many post productins houses have custom built systems.

    Applesoldeir is an ashole and knows nothign about video editing in the real world.

    We will have a showdown folks

  • @adobepc

    I didnt say they dont have custom builds im sure a lot do looks like you didnt understand my post at all i was saying when i client sees a OEM that is HP or Dell or what ever it makes them think your more of a professional than if they see a generic box sat there i never said custom is bad in the work world, seems to me you just skim read posts

  • ALRIGHT A FIGHT TO THE DEATH RIGHT

  • @adobePC

    In college, I interned at Sony Studios in LA & at ABC broadcasting in NYC. Both for video editing and audio production.

    Both studios had OEM workstations, but to handle their video & audio rendering they used a super computer because it was exponentially faster.

    I've worked at smaller production houses that use custom workstations, but the larger and more successful production places I've worked for all had OEM workstations with a custom super computer.

  • DCuerpoJr,

    As you can see Applesoldier is full of shit. You will find that as you get farther into your internships.

    Not every studio will need the same equipment (OEM or Custum build). Do you intern at a full production studio or just a post production studio?

    Not every studio needs Grass Valley switchers, Camplex System & camera control units. We needed them because we did live events more than anything else. We had an ass kicking suitcase studio for remote shoots.

  • Did you go to the University of Kentucky? My dad and uncle both went there

  • One word: Spotify

  • Emeek I dont think you understand, What makes the Mac Pro the Mac Pro is OSX, anyone can out do the mac pro but when you get an OS on top of it, it changes everything from compatibility to utilization. So the mac parts arent any different than what a pc can hold, the OS changes everything,

    you guys are going off on Mac hardware vs PC hardware, when in reality theyre all the same.

  • The Mac Pro has a proprietary case and motherboard. It is not better or worse than a generic ATX case and mother board form Asus or MSI.

  • Actually i dis agree, The mac pro aluminum cases are far better in build quality, features in terms of how everything fits inside, and its eco friendly....i think.

  • Why is it so important for you to convince everyone to use Apple? Why does it matter so much what other people do?

  • he gets stocks from apple, or however you say that

  • he gets stocks, + apple computers are the best :)

  • The Mac vs Pc videos arent really to persuade the public to apple, its just videos for people that brag about their computers.

  • @arthursucks what hes saying is a response to a user named adobepc who suggested that you can make a custom pc better than the mac pro and he is simply arguing it.

  • Man you need a pop filter bad.

    on amazon there like $12

  • Agreed.

  • He is a complete jack ass.

    He needs a pop filter but a limiter both.

    Microphones are harder to use than camcorder or webcam mics.

  • thats a mic i thought it was a ANAL PROBE!

  • agreed!

  • AdobePC is just a cock talked to him once, and the guy has no fucking clue what he is talking about.

    good video!!

    Cheers :)

  • Neither do you =D

  • pkerr12,

    Do you want to be on my hit list dude?

  • Don't you have heat in your house soldier. Your always wearing a jacket

  • He sounds like he just came home from a drinking session. Can anyone understand what he says right at the start of this vid?

  • @TheEire55 i noticed that too, haha. he kinda garbled those words together.

  • @TheEire55...So I'm not the only one who noticed that he was slurring badly at the start of the video.

    Maybe too much of the ol' Kentucky bourbon had been consumed.

  • now the problem will be cellphone bandwidth costs. Once thats rectified. likely a home use option. My kid uses a similar services

  • "I dosen't make it look like a home made bomb" Nice One Soldier.

  • Or it would be if we hadn't heard the same rhetoric 50,000 times before..

  • Eric, why do you harp on Premiere Pro, many shops use Premiere Pro...do you think things would be different if Premiere Pro on a Mac Pro when a customer came in? Would you then say, well that's OK? Eric, in my opinion you are far to concerned with the way your Mac looks from the outside instead of how it performs inside, that is pretty fucking stupid...as you said...if your so worried about appearances you should do as you suggest, but many people want functionality and performance

  • I used CS3 & CS4 Premiere Pro before switching over to Final Cut Pro.

    Premiere Pro is a good video editing program, but Final Cut Prois a better program if you're editing professionally.

    Final Cut Pro supports more video formats and can convert them to ProRes in order to splice and edit different sources of video.

    Premiere Pro has stability problems when trying to do the same...especially when converting HDV and AVCHD video.

  • I think I am going to go ahead and disagree with you on the different formats supported...there may be some that PP does not support that FCP, bu there are also formats PP does support that FCP does not. Also editing AVCHD is quite stable I use it a lot with absolutely no issue...you would know then that Adobe Clip Notes kicks the ass of any thing FCP can do for coolaboration...and they are so similar that PP has a setting to accept the FCP configuration...there really isnt that much difference

  • Maybe the stability issues are more associated with Vista Ultimate 64-bit than they are with Premiere Pro. Either way, when I was in the middle of rendering I'd get several error messages prompting me that "Premiere Pro encountered a fatal error and will be shut down".

    Clip Notes is useful, along with the integration of Bridge to Photoshop and After Effects. I was never a fan of Sound Booth though.

    When working with FCP I did notice rendering times were generally faster.

  • I actually found the opposite on my end...I really guess it may be attributed to the system and speeds of them because mine would always render faster and never crash in PP at all. FCP however seemed to drag. I have not tried any of the sound tools from FCP...I am a big fan however of Soundbooth...but perhaps the FCP sound tools are better I just have not used them.

  • In the end, I guess it all depends on what works for the individual user. PP & FCP are both good video editing programs.

    I heard Sony Vegas was pretty good with HD video, but I've never had a need to try it.

  • I agree...well thanks for the great replies...

  • AdobePC is NOT saying if you throw all the parts in a box it macs a Mac Pro...not saying that atll...what he IS saying is that the Mac Pro uses the same parts he was comparing to...butyou get the PC for cheaper...youre comparison was totally wrong a Taurus vs. a Limo? They are NOT the same...they are different vehicles...he is comparing it part for part, you may like and believe that the Mac OS is smoother and a better experience, but that is not what his video said, it was part for part, hello

  • OK, what a hipocrite! This isn't a subscription? How do you figure it isn't a subscription if you pay .10 per song to only listen to it online and you cannot download it? I know, you're going to say well you don't have to keep paying for it...but look Eric, you were so hard on those subscription services, and this LaLa you speak of is doing nearly the same thing...how much do you hate it now? You're an Apple water carrier...quit drinking the APPLE flavored kool aid!

  • I actually don't think Apple will use Lala's business model in conjunction with iTunes Music services.

    What I expect is for Apple to use Lala's capabilities on cloud computing via web browser.

    It'd be great to access your iTunes library from anywhere in the world on a mobile phone or computer (at no extra cost). And the be able to purchase songs, shows, etc at a remote location and have them automatically download to your computer at home.

  • Lol " looks likes a homemade bomb"

    I laughed for so long at that!

  • AdobePc...Noob

  • Somone sounded drunk while making this...

  • Remember your last video concerning Google? You said that they wanted to control our Internet experience.

    Well, I can always say that Apple is trying to expand their music empire.

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  • i mean you can use a different music provider you cant with the internet there is only one internet period.

  • "There is only one Internet"

    True, but Google is not an ISP, they just provide a free DNS. Do realize that there is something called OpenDNS. End of story.

    Are you AppleSoldier?

  • And DNS is configured by default by your ISP.

    Who controls the Internet? Cable companies. And now they want to control TV.

  • no just making a point

  • Your point doesn't really stand.

  • lol. lame....

  • Oh and I think that you can do better?

  • I don't need to "do better" but do you think I can?

  • Let's see you do it then.

  • I don't need to, but I will say that I don't have a problem with Apple 'expanding their music empire' as you put it; because I don't have a problem with them trying to increase the quality of their services.

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  • And I guess that they want to see cheap video cards in the Mac Pro? (Yes, I know that there's a Quadro card for the Mac, but not preinstalled) Today's Mac Pro has a rebranded 9500GT (GT 120), which is probably a $67 card or even cheaper.

    Custom builds are cheaper than Mac Pros, that's their purpose.

    Homemade bomb? OEM workstations don't overheat.

  • I agree with what you said. What are you talking about AdobePC, noob.

    Hows the contest going man?

    YAK

  • hey!!!!

    your a partner now

    congrats

  • Ah great, something else to junk up my iTunes.

  • AdobePC doesn't know shit, when it comes to understanding things that involve MAC!

  • Mac is Mac, Pc is Pc

  • agreed, BUT, if you are saying its impossible to put in the time and effort and make a pc as nice as a mac pro, you are wrong. they sell some VERY nice parts, now at this point i have to say, building a pc as nice as a mac pro, with good cable management, solid parts, ect. would cost around the same as the mac pro, BUT it would be about as good.

  • Recording the stream with Wiretap Studio doesn't mean you own it.

    It means you made an illegal copy of the song.

    Big difference, my friend. ;)

  • what are Adobe PC's ? PC's that use Adobe programs?

  • Adobe PC is a YouTube user that trash talks mac and applesoldier

  • How ironic, Applesoldier talks trash about computers, adobepc, and google, the people paying him for being a partner.

  • adobepc aint paying me ANYTHING dude. And I talk trash about pc's not "computers". Just cause google pays me, i have to agree with them?

  • I dont believe I said anything about adobepc paying you, I clearly said "the people paying him for being a partner" after I said Google. It makes you a fucking hypocrit. You say one thing, and do another, or you say one thing, and a video or two later contradict what the first video said.

  • Know what makes you sound stupid Eric? Suggesting that the shitty GT 120s in the Mac Pro are any better than a $67 graphics card. The GT 120 is a rebranded 9500GT, which is a cheap piece of shit.

  • I don't recall him saying that GT 120's were good cards. He doesn't have GT 120s afaik

  • He said the "same as a Mac Pro", not his specifically. The Mac Pro comes with GT 120s by default.

    If he wants to argue about a $67 card being as good as his...what, 3870? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I haven't checked prices on those archaic things lately.

  • It's NEWBIE, not a noob.

  • u freakin noob.

  • lolsry u pro

  • A noob is actually a newbie who should be past the newbie phase, but didn't progress from that phase, and is in denial about that. And telling others what to do while he lacks the skills/knowledge himself.

  • A noob is simply a person that is or acts like a rookie.

    Why put such a complicated definition onto simple words?

  • Eric, computers are not more than just specs. A computer is a tool made of parts, that's all it is. It is a box that lights up. If you want a Mac Pro, that's fine, but you very well CAN build an equivalent workstation.

    The whole can not be greater than the sum of its parts.

    Whether it's logical or possible, are two different stories.

    And the Mac Pro (Quad-Core) is still overpriced, the Octo-Core isn't.

  • The OS makes the difference between equal-spec machines. It's not the hardware, that can be built equal or similar, it's the SOFTWARE.

  • OS X is not worth several hundred dollars on the same specifications. If it is personally to YOU, go for it. But I'll kindly remind you that 90% of the world runs Windows.

  • At home or office. Most Internet servers or any server runs on a unix based system. Most people use windows because they don't know better, that's what they get sold when they go buy a computer. For the most part they got no choice, the average user doesn't care what he's using as long as he can see cute cats and troll facebook.

  • Unix based systems only accounts around 14%. Most of the servers are Windows and a close second Linux. Even though Mac Osx is Unix-based its a terrible server Os.

  • Most servers are Windows? are you talking about for a particular service? Most servers are Linux

    Linux distributions represented five of ten, FreeBSD three of ten, and Microsoft two of ten. And that is down a big fall do to BSD spiting the community. It used to be 8/10 Linux 2/10 Microsoft.

    LAMP server-software combination (Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl/PHP/Python) even with BSD out there is pretty much the standard for a server.

    The 14% is for end user systems and that number is out of date

  • Most corporations use Windows servers over Linux/UNIX because of the features you get in Windows servers, Active Directory, Exchange, Sharepoint, etc. For the same functionality, you have to get maybe 2x the programs for Linux/UNIX to do the same thing.

  • "Windows maintained its revenue leading spot, with 43.6% of all the EMEA revenue, with Unix lagging well behind, at 25.9% of EMEA revenue, followed by Linux, with 16.9%. This means there is now a revenue differential of 16 full percentage points between the two main operating systems, the biggest ever recorded by IDC. Although Windows has been bidding for the top spot for years now, in 4Q08 both operating systems were still neck and neck, with 35% of the total market each.

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  • @XXASCII808XX the report you are looking at is misleading. Just like the unemployment numbers in the USA. Many systems do not get counted in those numbers. Over all Linux servers out number Windows servers by over 2 times.

    Do to the economy every thing is in decline but declining new purchases dose not change what is already out there. And you would be hard pressed to find a web hosting company that the majority if not all of there servers a some form of LINUX.

  • Show me statistics that their is over 2 times Windows servers, I am not just talking about just web hosting, I am talking about all Servers. Linux should be booming when the economy is in decline. Stop being butthurt over Windows its a fine Operating system just like the others.

  • @XXASCII808XX first off I am not bashing Windows. Also keep in mind the EMEA stats are based on shipments (both ISS and upgrades) and revenues (both customer and factory) things which depend on how much money people are spending so many systems do not get included in those states just like many people out of work are not in the emplacement numbers.

    and if you want to talk about servers as of June 2009, out of the top 500 systems(88.6%) run a Linux

    wiki/Linux#Servers_and_superco­mputers

  • For this year the most servers bought are Windows Servers.

  • All OEM workstations are over priced when making a comparison to a Xeon workstation you can build yourself.

    Though I haven't seen a workstation case that's on par with HP's Z800 and Apple's Mac Pro. If any of you find one let me know. I need to make a rendering machine for 3ds Max within the next month.

  • "All OEM workstations are over priced when making a comparison to a Xeon workstation you can build yourself. "

    Well of course, that's the entire point of building one yourself, to save money that would otherwise be wasted on things you can do yourself.

  • Hey Eric, I don't think AdobePC was trying to make a Mac Pro, but something that would suite his needs and how much more you can get in hardware. I agree with you that you can't build a Mac Pro because it's a custom case and using a proprietary logic board.

  • Eric, what you are advocating in this video is piracy. It's quite clear that for ten cents you are owning a specific license to listen to that song in a certain way, not to store it on your computer or other devices. Recording it would be theft.

  • He just said it's possible.