Good luck Egypt. If the Muslim Brotherhood take over, you must not delay in overthrowing them. A theocracy is the worst of ALL tyrannies because they claim that to oppose them is to oppose God/Allah and to speak against them is to blaspheme. It is the oldest con of them all.
Die Freiheit wird immer siegen, ganz gleich mit welcher Macht sie unterdrückt wird. Ein christlicher Spruch in der Zeit der Christenverfolgung war: "Das Blut der Märtyrer, ist der Same der Kirche!" So auch bei dieser Revolution für die Demokratie in Ägypten, wird es einst heißen: "Das Blut der Märtyrer, ist der Same für die Freiheit einer Nation!"
I feel sorry for the protesters, first the military hold on to power, then peope vote for extremists. Depressing. First, I thought people here in the west was negative when they said Egypt couldnt manage democracy, now I dont know..
@annazt11 that is kind of true. because if you look at this revolution, it was a revolution of the youth. It started out with Twitter and Facebook. now it's being hijacked by the extremist muslim brotherhood. because many of the population is muslim and is probably poor. my guess is that the MB goes around giving money and food which they got from donations to the organization in the first place to gain popularity and get votes. I feel bad for the Egyptian youth.
@annazt11 I was one of those "small few" people who said the Egyptian revolution was going to go to shit. Dont forget, Egypt is full of Arabs and some people was expecting them to pull off a 5,000 year western tradition known as "democracy" lolololol. That would require the arabs to show responsibility, restraint and respect... Good luck lololol
The iron fist of islam is what keeps these nomads on a leash and thats how they like it... Egypt is doom because of the Egyptian people.
@fargonbastedge Well, actually many people, nor a few, has that opinion. First of all, our western traditions, wich I am proud of, are not 5000 years old. I mean, its enough to go back about 200, 100 or only a few decades, when it comes to eastern Europe, we were not democracies. And the roots of our values actually go back to the middle east and for sure to Egypt!
@WorstCommenter2008 Well, at least I am old enough to remember the wall didnt fall until 1989.. Greece has also been under dictator rule during 20th century. And their democracy was very different from ours. We wouldny recognize it today.
for all the egyptians out there who are going to vote...beware of the extremists! dont let egypt be taken over by extremists. that is how fascist hitler came into power.
These pictures are simply horrifying. Ppl being killed for their religion... I'm an atheist, but respect everyone's right to believe in what they want. But it seems to me that the Egyptian army is looking for a scapegoat, and they found one in the Coptic community. As a Moroccan, I call on all Egyptians to stop there revolution from being hijacked, like we let it happen in Morocco. Mubarak was from the army, and this is just a continuation of the dictatorship. Free Egypt NOW!
We muslims need the law of Allah becouse the sharia is the only law that can unite the umah. we muslims should have one leader and insha allah that will happen if we choose sharia. asalamu calaykum from Somalia.
Man with sign you are right - 30 years is way way more than enough.
WTF is wrong with you Egyptian soldiers? You are cruel, heartless, deranged and sadistic madmen. The clarity of your YouTube cameos will one day be your downfall, that's for certain. The days of getting away with that sort of shit for any length of time are well and truly over you dumb pricks - give cruelty away - be nice. That's some very sick sad shit going on there citizens.
@BLUFISH61 Egyptian soldiers are heroes. It is the military leadership who are betraying the people. Today (25th November 2011), we have seen more Egyptian army officers join the protests in Tahrir Square against SCAF. The mid-level and junior officers, and the rank and file soldiers are with the people, and the Revolution.
@SultanChase Friend, surely you jest? Soldiers beating the shit out of protestors as well as those SOB's getting their rocks-off torturing people with tasers, neither look, or act like so-called heroes. They are nothing more than sadistic morons. A hero has not shown himself yet - he will be the soldier who is brave enough to convince his fellow soldiers to turn around & point the guns at the leadership and say 'enough of that shit boys - you lot are outta here - pack your shit & go"
@BLUFISH61 Perhaps you haven't been following the news closely enough, as the protesters themselves have described how Interior Ministry troops are wearing military fatigues whilst attacking them, and that actual army soldiers are under orders to stand on the sidelines, neither attacking nor defending the protesters. There are also mid-level and junior ranking officers who have spoken openly (and at personal risk) in favour of the revolutionaries and against SCAF. This has continued today.
@SultanChase I do my best but you are probably right. I sincerely hope your positive view of events is correct. I was unaware of any difference between soldiers and Interior Ministry troops. On that basis I should have used IMT's instead of soldiers in my original comment. Either way - power to the people. All the best bro'.
It's sad how things are turning out in Egypt, these sorts of things can't happen overnight...but how long are they meant to last? Personally, I think things will remain basically the same...but a bit better for the Egypitan people...
Oscar Wilde, the famous playwright, once commented that there are 2 great tragedies of life. The first, never attaining what you have set your heart upon. The second, getting it.
Life is by definition pain upon pain upon discomfort upon trouble upon dilemma upon disaster. There is one religion and one religion only which makes any sense of this almost fathomless human crisis, Catholicism, and Jesus Christ Who to this day exists in the Blessed Sacrament of each and every Catholic Church.
@bxs204 Please don't carry on with your islamophobic bullshit. You can't just apolitically equate every political party in Egypt that uses islamic language with the the supposed threat of extremest muslims who want to annihilate Christians. The Muslim Brotherhood, while counter revolutionary and not above promoting sectarianism against coptics, is merely a moderate liberal party that uses islamic rhetoric. It is in no respect any more extremist than any conservative party in the west.
Muslim Islamic Sharia law stands in COMPLETE opposition to equal protection under the law for both sexes, all religions, all races, and all ethnicities under the ÙS Constitution.
@EverlearningSoul Don't confuse shari'ah with the Wilayat al-Faqih system that has been applied in Iran since the Islamic Revolution. They two are very different in many respects. True shari'ah - which is a beautiful thing - is not currently applied by any government in the world.
@SultanChase You've got to be kidding!!!It's actually U that seems to te confused and you have a distorted waying of the concept of beautiful! I have a pretty good understaning of boht concepts of Velayat Faghih and Sharia Law and one in ugiler than the other.I felt the beauty!!!of Sharia Law when I had to go through hell to divorce my abusive husband and I had to go throguh hell when according to Sharia Law,my child was taken away from me.I had to once again go through hell to obtain a passport
@SultanChase since women should have the permission of a male guardian to have one.Women don't have the equal value of a human being according to this beautiful! law that you've mentioned.According to Sharia,stonning,cutting hands,polygamy for men,and many other degrading inhumane acts are being ordered.I'm the grand daughter of a Shi'a clergy Muslim and a proud Ex-Muslim as well,so I strongly advice to educate yourself about a topic before making a comment,if you're planning to keep it honest.
@EverlearningSoul You are a truly hateful and disturbed individual. Being the granddaughter of a Shi'a cleric has no bearing on the fact that you have clearly not studied the religion of Islam, or the nature of shar'ah. Rather than compiling a list of tired clichés and out of context references to the Qu'ran and the Hadith, you should educate yourself about what they actually say. Shari'ah is NOT Wilayat al-Faqih OR Wahhabism. Until you learn this, you're frankly incapable of knowing true Islam.
@SultanChase It's YOU that seems to be having issues with UNDERSTANDING what people say.I have a VERY good understanding about Sharia law since most of my life has been ruined by it and I find it my DUTY to expose it so others, specially WOMEN won't be hurt by it as well.I NEVER said Sharia law is Velayate-Faghih, so learn NOT to lie, if you're willing and capable to do so, or you're going to call it "Taghiyeh" Sultanchace and it would be ok in your mind? Be HONEST, be BRAVE, be TRUTHFUL.
@EverlearningSoul I NEVER said that you claimed that shari'ah and Wilayat al-Faqih are the same. I was merely (and obviously) pointing out that the Iranian system is NOT the same as shari'ah. As such, whatever injustices that you may have seen in Iran are not due to shari'ah, but due to the Iranian political and legal system. So try to be honest (because you're the one who is lying). Don't misrepresent what I said, and don't use your had problems in Iran, and your own hatred, to defame Islam.
shariah is injustice....r u going to say non muslims hav 2nd class citizenship justice. a woman has no rights to her children in a divorce........i can go on and on. stop kidding urself. look into nonie darwish..........she is a true arab hero!
@kumkum19 Darwish? The traitor who supports the Zionist occupation of her own land??? The creature who referred to her own martyred father as a "terrorist"??? Nice choice of hero.
she supports israel becaus she knows the truth. israel doesnt occupy any land other than its own. and if it does hav exceeding borders its becaus terrorist organizations make it a requirement for defense. until hamas n hezbollah can live like the canada/usa border, it can go back to its 1967 border. her father is not a martyr, her father is a terrorist. in fact all martyrs are non muslims who never submitted to islam after islamic conquest.
its amazing how u define a martyr. at the same time ur a muslim and ur upbringing and meaning of things r soo fu@ked up, i dont blame u. im sure u beleive the killing of daughters for supposed or assumpted "misbehavior" is also "honor". egyptians hav a great pre islamic civilization, its such a shame
Meanwhile, the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s most organized and popular Islamic group, is using Arab Spring “attempting to annihilate Christians” and other minority groups in the country. This is the true face of Islam!
@bxs204 Actually, there are no reports of the Muslim Brotherhood being involved in any attacks on Christian fellow Egyptians. The perpetrators of such attacks have been proven consistently to be extreme Salafis, who have a much more radical, austere, and belligerent interpretation of religion than the Muslim Brotherhood. By and large, the Muslim Brotherhood have been playing things very cautiously (and cunningly), with their eyes fixed firmly on winning big in the upcoming elections.
@EverlearningSoul: Get real? their is not even an Islamic state or sharia, not in Iran nor in Saudi-Arabia, their is only western invader in our countries and dictators who are raised up by the west. Thats why their is chaos. You know, Europe and America are not the solution for the problems, they are the cause itself. Look what they have done in all these times, have they reached any goodness?
Even their own people is against them. You must get real! be rational.
@IslamicState3 Can you explain how the government would be selected under what you describe as "an Islamic state", and in what way "full sharia" would enable such a government to formulate complex policy on issues such as healthcare, education, the economy, and so on?
@SultanChase: Muslims not should do things with the goverment and elections. They must chance the public opinion, because the Muslims don't know exaclty what sharia means, it must be explained to them and why it is the best way with facts, than you can chance the public opnion.
Islam is an ideologie, it has already his own economic system and punishment system. Thats why it says that Islam is an ideologie.
@IslamicState3 You did not explain what you meant by "an Islamic state", or how "full sharia" can be used to develop government policies. All you appeared to do was condemn elections. But without elections, how do you suggest that Muslims actually express their desire for shari'ah? And without elections, how do you suggest that Muslims ensure that their governments stay loyal to shari'ah? In the modern age, the only form of shura (Islamic consultation) that works is elections.
@SultanChase: Yes, their can be elections, but only between real Muslims groups who will rule with sharia.
Its forbidden in Islam to take part in these elections, Allah (SWT) said in de Quran, wala yoeshrikoe vi hoekmihi a7ad and He (SWT) also said, Innil 7oekmoe ilaliAllah.
You ask about wat you mean by an Islamic state? An Islamic state who will rule with the laws from the Quran and Sunnah, and let united all Islamic countries under one flag, one nation and one army like before.
THIS IS A VIDEO MADE BY A BRITISH AND ITS ONLY AIM WAS TO SHOW HOW THE COPTIC CHRISTIANS ARE TREATED BAD IN EGYPT. AND OF COURSE, TO SHOW THE POVERTY OF EGYPT........I WISH ONE DAY THEY WILL SHOW THE POVERTY IN FRANCE, THE POVERTY IN RUSSIA, THE POVERTY IN USA AND OF COURSE, THE POVERTY IN BRITAIN.
You cannot have democracy in this chaotic situation. Stability, safety and security should be priority one at the present time. If push comes to shove, I rather see a military ruler than any religious fundamentalist.
@omachkar That is a false dilemma. It's not a choice between just a military ruler and a Salafi. The majority of Egyptians do not want either. They want to see a truly representative government that respects religion, respects minorities, and adheres to nationalism. SCAF, and the Salafis are opposed to this outcome, which is why you should be opposed to them.
oh well thats egypt even more fuked !!! looks like it's gonna be a military dictatorship for them or another kleptocracy as is the case in 90% of the modern world
Mohammedans are just the same as those poor little donkeys they ride on . Mohammed(570-632) says you have to be a slave of Allah . He also states that mohammedans have to obey , so have to be slaves of the rulers . So Egypt is just an example of the utopia Mohammed wanted . Those Mohammedans have to be grateful because they have the society Mohammed wants . No freedom , no democracy that is exactly what mr. Mohammed wanted . All muslim countries have the same fascist rulers , nothing changes !!
It should be noted that the Muslim Brotherhood has repreatedly lied about how many members it intended to put up for elections. Lying is nothing new to them as they have openly said they use deception as their main method for advancement.
I hope the Egyptians are fed up with lyers after so much rule under Mubarak.
Egyptians should think twice about putting people into power who already think lies and deception are the proper way to gain advancement.
@jjk9999 The conduct of the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood this past year, even before the Revolution when they were collaborating with Mubarak in the rigged elections in December 2010, helps to explain why Gamal Abdel Nasser despised them so much. Their priorities are not those of the majority of Egyptians, and they are willing to collaborate with the enemies of the people in order to achieve them. They did this in the 1950s with the British, and they're doing it now with SCAF.
@SultanChase Thankyou that was very informative. They also assisted Hitler against the British in WWII. This just shows they will side with anyone. The egyptian people don't know who else they vote for when they vote Muslim Brotherhood. Will they side with salafists? Wahabis? Shia? Turkey? The army, the banks? There is no way to know who or what they will stand with at any time on secular or political issues. They place too much value on opportunsism and insincerity to be trusted by voters.
@jjk9999 I fear that you are absolutely right. It's depressing. The Brotherhood didn't win the Revolution (indeed, until almost the end they forbade their members from participating in the demonstrations against Mubarak), but now they seem poised to play the deciding role in how the Revolution plays out. It's sickening that last week when brave Egyptians (including dissident younger members of the Brotherhood) were being attacked, tortured, even killed by the police, the Brotherhood were absent.
The contents of this documentary don't support the title. It in fact shows a nation at the beginning of a transition rather than a hijacking in process. I was very glad to see the emerging female leaders and that the copts and democratic forces are far from giving up.
Now that there will be many options for Egyptians they may not fall under the influence of the radical islamists.
@Fridaey13txhOktober Haha, gun pun. Although, as you know, the majority of Egyptian women were wearing the higab (as it is called in Egypt) for decades prior to the Revolution this year.
@Fridaey13txhOktober If you want to look at it like that, then the higab is more of a hair warmer than a face towel since it leaves the face totally exposed - something not so dissimilar to the prevailing fashion in the West in the early 20th century. Even Jackie Kennedy was a big fan of them, and that was in the 1960s.
The sad truth that's not shown even in this film is that most Egyptians are backweard people who still want Sharia Law, want censorship, army control, female circumcision, anti-gay laws.
There is no solution coming anytime soon.
Ironically, the only Muslim population in the world that has truly started to advance and embrace freedom, hard work, education, and modern values - against all odds, is Israel.
1) Israel isn't a Muslim nation. Less than 16% of the populous is Muslim.
2) There are lots of autonomous states with a majority of the population being Muslim that have "advanced" and that embrace freedom, hard work, education, and modern values as you put it...Turkey, Bosnia, Bahrain? Even the Saudi's embrace hard work and have revalued their mostly religious education system.
3) Proof that most Egyptians want Sharia and are backward?
@LibertyDownUnder That's ridiculous to say then. One could argue the United States has the most advanced and free Muslim population, or France or Italy or Sweden, lol....
I don't disagree about the negative impact Islam or religion in general has on whole societies. You're just wrong about Israel being the only Middle Eastern state to embrace freedom and whatnot.
Also how is that proof? You just proved how inaccurate polls are. 66% are illiterate and thus don't know what Sharia is. Lol...
Wow! Like I am hearing Adonis Georgiadis' show or political program of Golden Dawn here! Note:1) Jossef Goebels was "Arian"(like Swedes and Dutch) not American or Australian -although I think he became after his "suicide"! By the way Europe never even tried to integrate them. They were always just the lowlife cheap working hands! Note2) I didn't know that Australia is in Europe!!! Note3) I suppose you know personaly who brought the knife to Alex Viens, and who "accidentaly" shot Marwa's husband!
@LibertyDownUnder No doubt the Mullahs wouldn't preach the truth, just like priests and pastors here in the USA are notorious for lying about what the scriptures actually say. And 99% of America is LITERATE!
Ask Muslims if they really think apostates should be murdered, or women stoned. The numbers WILL be lower than those who want "some form of Sharia"
But again, I don't disagree with the impact for evil religion has. The support for suicide bombers and terrorism isn't very promising...etc.
@LibertyDownUnder Have you ever heard of "Grey Wolfs"? They are western style Turkish skinheads -nothing to do with Islam Radicalism! Many turks are becoming "Grey Wolfs" lately! You may have met some in the last Hate Festival!
@zeeab Humans naturally crave freedom. The more the military council pushes the people, the more angry and resentful and bitter they will be. The desire to be free is in all of us. No religion is needed.
Almost all of us are strong enough and wise enough to simply demand liberty and justice. It's innate in us as highly evolved creatures.
But then again, unfortunately servility is hardwired into us by evolution too. So these revolutions take WAY too long to happen due to complacency.
@Territomauvais Yes you are so right, freedom seems to be something Allah planted in us, it's a life long struggle. There will be another big protest here in Egypt on the 17 or 18 of this month, people are talking more revolution and they dont want the military.
Egyptian revolution hijacked by western propaganders and youtube clone-agents and drones (which are plenty here as I notice)! Those people revoluted for democracy and against corruption and oppretion not for Taliban!!
@Peristerygr Saying the arab spring protesters want democracy is an extreme overstatement. They're tired of status quo puppet dictators prompt up by the west. The economic conditions plays a major part as well.
@chakazulu87 I didn't say something different! And it is far from sure that they are not Taliban! Of course Islamist fountamentalists are trying to take advantage as all far right wing conservatives do in time of crysis in any country!!!
@shazillazhar The true Khilafah only lasted for three decades, and ended with the martyrdom of the fourth noble Khalifa, Ali. After that, it became a monarchy, being passed from father to son. Sadly, if the Khalifiah couldn't even work in the years immediately following the death of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH), then it cannot work today.
Saadawi has the right idea. Hope she and others like her can keep the Islamist at bay. Freedom and liberty! From religious and military domination. I am a Christian.
@Walhei960 Nawal El Saadawi is a lunatic, and a borderline traitor. She has nothing positive to offer the people of Egypt, either Muslim or Christian. Egyptian unity is to be found in nationalism. The same nationalism of Mohammed Naguib and Gamal Abdel Nasser. Both men enjoyed excellent relations with the Coptic Orthodox Church, respected its leaders, and were respected by them in return. Nationalism is what can bind us together as brothers. One Egypt for all Egyptians - Muslim and Christian.
Blame the bankers and federal reserve. Enough said. Everyone else in their "elite" seat of power is just a puppet for them. Get rid of centralized banking, and take back freedom.
And accusing all muslim Egytian protestors being Islamists fontamentalists isn't generalisation, it is "the undeniable truth", right? Are you going to show me uncomplete spesific sentences of verses of Quran whitch is heard like supporting terrorism, hate and misoginism? Or a timeline of attacks by islamists terrorists? Are you going to call me "illiterate" because of some mispellings? You will respond here or in my profile?Are you going to call me stupid moron? Islamist scum? Nigger lover?
@squishycommander Everything I mentioned it happened to me every time I was talking for talking for that issue! Some of them reported me! That is why I know all possible -startegical- responses in this case -besides complete nonsenses which can't be written here! I've been told even that I escaped form the asyllum! A guy in my profile say that! I hope you had good intentions!
@Peristerygr I agree with squishycommander that that is a rather large generalization, haha.
People who think this is propaganda may just be stupid. Or naive about geopolitics and thinks everyone has an agenda and objective journalism doesn't exist. Or NOT naive about geopolitics and still thinks objective journalism doesn't exist at all.
Nonetheless, your generalization has some truth in it. But you take away credibility from that fact by using hyperbole...
@Territomauvais I suppose you are right! Everything you say are options! But there are people here who don't really care if an information is accurate but if it fits with his prejustices or even with the propaganda he is pursuing, If you know what I mean!!! And I am sorry for being aggresive but I was bashed many time here by bigots, racists, discriminators,who have much greater hypeboles and generalisations in their speach than me and pretty much often they are very rude and highly insultive!
@abikani What evidence can you offer to support your claim that: "Egyptians Hate Democracy..."? Most Muslim Egyptians view elections as the only practical means of shura (Islamic consultation), which means that they are mandatory for Muslims, not optional. As elections in Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, Nigeria, and Turkey have demonstrated, when Muslims are able to express their wishes through truly free elections, they vote for parties that support shari'ah.
@SultanChase The fact that the majority of Egyptians are muslims says that they HATE democracy as Democracy is a unislamic system originating from Greek words 'Demos = people,kratos=power' where Human being legislates through representative etc. democracy.As Abraham Lincoln said once, Rule by the people, for the people, from the people. In Islam 'The rule is to none but Allah' Quran. That is why Muslims Egyptians hate democracyetc. as it is against their belief.
@abikani Do the Muslims of Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, Nigeria, and Turkey also "HATE democracy"? How about the millions of Muslim Egyptians who voted in the constitutional referendum in April of this year? How about the millions of Muslim Egyptians who will vote in the upcoming Egyptian parliamentary elections? Do they all "HATE democracy"? Elections = shura, and are the only way for true shari'ah to be implemented, and then protected. Elections are obligatory for true Muslims.
@abikani Yes yes! In this video they are all jihadistic Taliban who try to fool West! Did you send a congratulations postacard to Alex Wiens -the "hero" who "saved Germany" from the "terrorist" Marwa El-Sherbini?
9:57 pretty much sums up the documentary. You're wrong, I'm right. No peace until I get what I want. @mrbenyong name one group of people that aren't two faced? It's a human problem. It's not all of them, just the loudest ones.
@Macsgrafs Your anarchism is an utter display of ignorance, not ALL forms of government are wrong, some forms of government do give power to the people, maybe not perfectly, but I'm certain without a government you would be one of the first wooly headed fatalilities of the Anarchy you call for.
@starcatcher2222 of course they are wrong, dont you know anything about freedom??? Show me a government that isnt corrupt!!!!!! You cant, now go back to sleep, be the good sheeple that you sdo obviously are by your shill answer!
@starcatcher2222 You are such a great judge of people...NOT!!! Dont push me into one of your overheard big worded names, I am a human & have compassion, something which you clearly show lack of. In not going to reply to you any more as you bore the fuck out of me..YAWN!
@Macsgrafs Your simply a criticiser who cneeds to look past your nose and think of adequate solutions to problems, Your anarchistic nonsense would only make things worse. As far as lacking compassion I disagree, A strong sense of compassion is essential to the art of torture because one must have an empathic feeling for ones subject. Would you like a Job? The Money isn't great but the travel and benefits make up for it.
@starcatcher2222 I believe that you may find that Lenin never used that term, and that it was coined many years later by Western opponents of Lenin to characterise what they considered to be his views.
Has things gone better after Mubarak left, NO... Coptics are being slaughtered, lets not use the word killed because it is nothing what the coptics are going through. This state can never implement equality between religion and culture.
@Gr33kElite That''s because Mubarak wasn't the problem. IT WAS THE WHOLE SYSTEM GOVERNMENT AND MILITARY IN EGYPT. DId WW2 end with just killing Hitler? What if they let the Nazi Generals to continue controlling Germany and allowed them to keep their power? Hitler didn't physically killed millions of Jews, THE GERMAN NAZI ARMY did. The some thing in Egypt, the soldiers and media are not friends. The Egyptian media are blaming Coptics for the deaths of civilians, who were killed by the army!
@KpopManiacSFL The Egyptian military IS the friend of the people. It is the generals who are the enemy. SCAF has now even started arresting members of the army for supporting the Revolution. The soldiers of Egypt - both Muslim and Christian - have always been loyal to the Republic. It is the leadership that is rotten and treasonous.
for stupid commenters,
the killed christians were attacked by the corrupted MILITARY and POLICE, not by "muslim extremists"
MrRyan666666 2 weeks ago
Good luck Egypt. If the Muslim Brotherhood take over, you must not delay in overthrowing them. A theocracy is the worst of ALL tyrannies because they claim that to oppose them is to oppose God/Allah and to speak against them is to blaspheme. It is the oldest con of them all.
ritchloui 1 month ago
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Die Freiheit wird immer siegen, ganz gleich mit welcher Macht sie unterdrückt wird. Ein christlicher Spruch in der Zeit der Christenverfolgung war: "Das Blut der Märtyrer, ist der Same der Kirche!" So auch bei dieser Revolution für die Demokratie in Ägypten, wird es einst heißen: "Das Blut der Märtyrer, ist der Same für die Freiheit einer Nation!"
cybernautikon 1 month ago
I feel sorry for the protesters, first the military hold on to power, then peope vote for extremists. Depressing. First, I thought people here in the west was negative when they said Egypt couldnt manage democracy, now I dont know..
annazt11 2 months ago
@annazt11 that is kind of true. because if you look at this revolution, it was a revolution of the youth. It started out with Twitter and Facebook. now it's being hijacked by the extremist muslim brotherhood. because many of the population is muslim and is probably poor. my guess is that the MB goes around giving money and food which they got from donations to the organization in the first place to gain popularity and get votes. I feel bad for the Egyptian youth.
Anatolian90 2 months ago
@Anatolian90 I´m worried. They have so much to win right now. And so much to loose.
annazt11 2 months ago
@annazt11 I was one of those "small few" people who said the Egyptian revolution was going to go to shit. Dont forget, Egypt is full of Arabs and some people was expecting them to pull off a 5,000 year western tradition known as "democracy" lolololol. That would require the arabs to show responsibility, restraint and respect... Good luck lololol
The iron fist of islam is what keeps these nomads on a leash and thats how they like it... Egypt is doom because of the Egyptian people.
fargonbastedge 2 months ago
@fargonbastedge Well, actually many people, nor a few, has that opinion. First of all, our western traditions, wich I am proud of, are not 5000 years old. I mean, its enough to go back about 200, 100 or only a few decades, when it comes to eastern Europe, we were not democracies. And the roots of our values actually go back to the middle east and for sure to Egypt!
annazt11 2 months ago
@annazt11 Eastern Europe is not western... I was referring to anceint Greece (3000 BC) and ancient Rome (500 BC).
fargonbastedge 2 months ago
@fargonbastedge well Greek democracy was invented 2500 years ago and it last for only one century the gold century of Pericles about 480 BC-404 BC.
phgh1520 2 months ago
@annazt11 Nice of you to talk so nice about eastern Europe, considering Ancient Greece CREATED democracy.
WorstCommenter2008 2 months ago
@WorstCommenter2008 Well, at least I am old enough to remember the wall didnt fall until 1989.. Greece has also been under dictator rule during 20th century. And their democracy was very different from ours. We wouldny recognize it today.
annazt11 2 months ago
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kopellhinex 2 months ago
Egyptians need to know this very important fact , never quit until they do what they wanted in the first place , even if the army is in power .
TaviYamato 2 months ago
for all the egyptians out there who are going to vote...beware of the extremists! dont let egypt be taken over by extremists. that is how fascist hitler came into power.
xlovexxtealx55 2 months ago
muslims seem like they hav no peace of mind anywhr....i feel bad for ther situations.
that woman who has 10 kids cant complain abt being poor
kumkum19 2 months ago
These pictures are simply horrifying. Ppl being killed for their religion... I'm an atheist, but respect everyone's right to believe in what they want. But it seems to me that the Egyptian army is looking for a scapegoat, and they found one in the Coptic community. As a Moroccan, I call on all Egyptians to stop there revolution from being hijacked, like we let it happen in Morocco. Mubarak was from the army, and this is just a continuation of the dictatorship. Free Egypt NOW!
karimobo 3 months ago
One of the army officers supporting the Revolution openly - type in tinyurl . com /cw9oduo
SultanChase 3 months ago
We muslims need the law of Allah becouse the sharia is the only law that can unite the umah. we muslims should have one leader and insha allah that will happen if we choose sharia. asalamu calaykum from Somalia.
jahur101 3 months ago
In US, we actually have the same of military and they love to make ghosts. We need some stronger women as well.
Blesses to Egypt.
beancube2010 3 months ago
Man with sign you are right - 30 years is way way more than enough.
WTF is wrong with you Egyptian soldiers? You are cruel, heartless, deranged and sadistic madmen. The clarity of your YouTube cameos will one day be your downfall, that's for certain. The days of getting away with that sort of shit for any length of time are well and truly over you dumb pricks - give cruelty away - be nice. That's some very sick sad shit going on there citizens.
The world IS watching Egypt - Power to the People
BLUFISH61 3 months ago
@BLUFISH61 Egyptian soldiers are heroes. It is the military leadership who are betraying the people. Today (25th November 2011), we have seen more Egyptian army officers join the protests in Tahrir Square against SCAF. The mid-level and junior officers, and the rank and file soldiers are with the people, and the Revolution.
SultanChase 3 months ago
@SultanChase Friend, surely you jest? Soldiers beating the shit out of protestors as well as those SOB's getting their rocks-off torturing people with tasers, neither look, or act like so-called heroes. They are nothing more than sadistic morons. A hero has not shown himself yet - he will be the soldier who is brave enough to convince his fellow soldiers to turn around & point the guns at the leadership and say 'enough of that shit boys - you lot are outta here - pack your shit & go"
BLUFISH61 3 months ago
@BLUFISH61 Perhaps you haven't been following the news closely enough, as the protesters themselves have described how Interior Ministry troops are wearing military fatigues whilst attacking them, and that actual army soldiers are under orders to stand on the sidelines, neither attacking nor defending the protesters. There are also mid-level and junior ranking officers who have spoken openly (and at personal risk) in favour of the revolutionaries and against SCAF. This has continued today.
SultanChase 3 months ago
@SultanChase I do my best but you are probably right. I sincerely hope your positive view of events is correct. I was unaware of any difference between soldiers and Interior Ministry troops. On that basis I should have used IMT's instead of soldiers in my original comment. Either way - power to the people. All the best bro'.
BLUFISH61 3 months ago
@BLUFISH61 Likewise, bro. And, as an Egyptian myself, thanks for supporting my people!
SultanChase 3 months ago
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BLUFISH61 3 months ago
wow this documentry just before the clashes erupted
elkhoulybros 3 months ago
Stupid lols crackdown u own country.
DEMOCRACY OLOLOLOEVOLUTION GOGOGOG!
AVKtt 3 months ago
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hamid495 3 months ago
The Revolution is not over yet!
badry161616 3 months ago
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datvsbling 3 months ago
Viva la Revolucion Viva la nacion ARABE
ahmed337799 3 months ago
@ahmed337799 VIVA!
SultanChase 3 months ago
It's sad how things are turning out in Egypt, these sorts of things can't happen overnight...but how long are they meant to last? Personally, I think things will remain basically the same...but a bit better for the Egypitan people...
TheShadowParliament 3 months ago
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egylink2009 3 months ago
Oscar Wilde, the famous playwright, once commented that there are 2 great tragedies of life. The first, never attaining what you have set your heart upon. The second, getting it.
Life is by definition pain upon pain upon discomfort upon trouble upon dilemma upon disaster. There is one religion and one religion only which makes any sense of this almost fathomless human crisis, Catholicism, and Jesus Christ Who to this day exists in the Blessed Sacrament of each and every Catholic Church.
thedevilisaroaringli 3 months ago
@thedevilisaroaringli
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thedevilisaroaringli 3 months ago
No really , who didnt see this coming, what military regime EVER turned out to be the right leaders.what a joke.
nightkraawler 3 months ago
@bxs204 Please don't carry on with your islamophobic bullshit. You can't just apolitically equate every political party in Egypt that uses islamic language with the the supposed threat of extremest muslims who want to annihilate Christians. The Muslim Brotherhood, while counter revolutionary and not above promoting sectarianism against coptics, is merely a moderate liberal party that uses islamic rhetoric. It is in no respect any more extremist than any conservative party in the west.
ASimon1995 3 months ago
Muslim Islamic Sharia law stands in COMPLETE opposition to equal protection under the law for both sexes, all religions, all races, and all ethnicities under the ÙS Constitution.
bxs204 3 months ago
@bxs204 Totally agree with you, since I'm from Iran and I know precisely what it's like to live under Sharia law, specailly for the women.
EverlearningSoul 3 months ago
@EverlearningSoul Don't confuse shari'ah with the Wilayat al-Faqih system that has been applied in Iran since the Islamic Revolution. They two are very different in many respects. True shari'ah - which is a beautiful thing - is not currently applied by any government in the world.
SultanChase 3 months ago
@SultanChase You've got to be kidding!!!It's actually U that seems to te confused and you have a distorted waying of the concept of beautiful! I have a pretty good understaning of boht concepts of Velayat Faghih and Sharia Law and one in ugiler than the other.I felt the beauty!!!of Sharia Law when I had to go through hell to divorce my abusive husband and I had to go throguh hell when according to Sharia Law,my child was taken away from me.I had to once again go through hell to obtain a passport
EverlearningSoul 3 months ago
@SultanChase since women should have the permission of a male guardian to have one.Women don't have the equal value of a human being according to this beautiful! law that you've mentioned.According to Sharia,stonning,cutting hands,polygamy for men,and many other degrading inhumane acts are being ordered.I'm the grand daughter of a Shi'a clergy Muslim and a proud Ex-Muslim as well,so I strongly advice to educate yourself about a topic before making a comment,if you're planning to keep it honest.
EverlearningSoul 3 months ago
@EverlearningSoul You are a truly hateful and disturbed individual. Being the granddaughter of a Shi'a cleric has no bearing on the fact that you have clearly not studied the religion of Islam, or the nature of shar'ah. Rather than compiling a list of tired clichés and out of context references to the Qu'ran and the Hadith, you should educate yourself about what they actually say. Shari'ah is NOT Wilayat al-Faqih OR Wahhabism. Until you learn this, you're frankly incapable of knowing true Islam.
SultanChase 3 months ago
@SultanChase It's YOU that seems to be having issues with UNDERSTANDING what people say.I have a VERY good understanding about Sharia law since most of my life has been ruined by it and I find it my DUTY to expose it so others, specially WOMEN won't be hurt by it as well.I NEVER said Sharia law is Velayate-Faghih, so learn NOT to lie, if you're willing and capable to do so, or you're going to call it "Taghiyeh" Sultanchace and it would be ok in your mind? Be HONEST, be BRAVE, be TRUTHFUL.
EverlearningSoul 3 months ago
@EverlearningSoul I NEVER said that you claimed that shari'ah and Wilayat al-Faqih are the same. I was merely (and obviously) pointing out that the Iranian system is NOT the same as shari'ah. As such, whatever injustices that you may have seen in Iran are not due to shari'ah, but due to the Iranian political and legal system. So try to be honest (because you're the one who is lying). Don't misrepresent what I said, and don't use your had problems in Iran, and your own hatred, to defame Islam.
SultanChase 3 months ago
@SultanChase
shariah is injustice....r u going to say non muslims hav 2nd class citizenship justice. a woman has no rights to her children in a divorce........i can go on and on. stop kidding urself. look into nonie darwish..........she is a true arab hero!
kumkum19 2 months ago
@kumkum19 Darwish? The traitor who supports the Zionist occupation of her own land??? The creature who referred to her own martyred father as a "terrorist"??? Nice choice of hero.
SultanChase 2 months ago
@SultanChase
she supports israel becaus she knows the truth. israel doesnt occupy any land other than its own. and if it does hav exceeding borders its becaus terrorist organizations make it a requirement for defense. until hamas n hezbollah can live like the canada/usa border, it can go back to its 1967 border. her father is not a martyr, her father is a terrorist. in fact all martyrs are non muslims who never submitted to islam after islamic conquest.
kumkum19 2 months ago
@SultanChase
its amazing how u define a martyr. at the same time ur a muslim and ur upbringing and meaning of things r soo fu@ked up, i dont blame u. im sure u beleive the killing of daughters for supposed or assumpted "misbehavior" is also "honor". egyptians hav a great pre islamic civilization, its such a shame
kumkum19 2 months ago
@kumkum19 i think you need to concern about your own nation
india have alot of problems
111000mido 1 month ago
Meanwhile, the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s most organized and popular Islamic group, is using Arab Spring “attempting to annihilate Christians” and other minority groups in the country. This is the true face of Islam!
bxs204 3 months ago
@bxs204 Actually, there are no reports of the Muslim Brotherhood being involved in any attacks on Christian fellow Egyptians. The perpetrators of such attacks have been proven consistently to be extreme Salafis, who have a much more radical, austere, and belligerent interpretation of religion than the Muslim Brotherhood. By and large, the Muslim Brotherhood have been playing things very cautiously (and cunningly), with their eyes fixed firmly on winning big in the upcoming elections.
SultanChase 3 months ago
The only solution ohhh Egyptians is an Islamic state with the full sharia!
Not be ignorant or arrogant, every Muslims should know, that so long their is no sharia, the choas will continue.
Becuase, he is the solution of problems? who knows the solution for the problems? it is not our creator?
IslamicState3 3 months ago
@IslamicState3 You are correct 100% Egypt must establish a full sharia!
amrazim 3 months ago
@IslamicState3 What actually causes the chaos, IS the sharia law.Get Real!
EverlearningSoul 3 months ago
@EverlearningSoul: Get real? their is not even an Islamic state or sharia, not in Iran nor in Saudi-Arabia, their is only western invader in our countries and dictators who are raised up by the west. Thats why their is chaos. You know, Europe and America are not the solution for the problems, they are the cause itself. Look what they have done in all these times, have they reached any goodness?
Even their own people is against them. You must get real! be rational.
IslamicState3 3 months ago
@IslamicState3 Can you explain how the government would be selected under what you describe as "an Islamic state", and in what way "full sharia" would enable such a government to formulate complex policy on issues such as healthcare, education, the economy, and so on?
SultanChase 3 months ago
@SultanChase: Muslims not should do things with the goverment and elections. They must chance the public opinion, because the Muslims don't know exaclty what sharia means, it must be explained to them and why it is the best way with facts, than you can chance the public opnion.
Islam is an ideologie, it has already his own economic system and punishment system. Thats why it says that Islam is an ideologie.
IslamicState3 3 months ago
@IslamicState3 You did not explain what you meant by "an Islamic state", or how "full sharia" can be used to develop government policies. All you appeared to do was condemn elections. But without elections, how do you suggest that Muslims actually express their desire for shari'ah? And without elections, how do you suggest that Muslims ensure that their governments stay loyal to shari'ah? In the modern age, the only form of shura (Islamic consultation) that works is elections.
SultanChase 3 months ago
@SultanChase: Yes, their can be elections, but only between real Muslims groups who will rule with sharia.
Its forbidden in Islam to take part in these elections, Allah (SWT) said in de Quran, wala yoeshrikoe vi hoekmihi a7ad and He (SWT) also said, Innil 7oekmoe ilaliAllah.
You ask about wat you mean by an Islamic state? An Islamic state who will rule with the laws from the Quran and Sunnah, and let united all Islamic countries under one flag, one nation and one army like before.
IslamicState3 3 months ago
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amrazim 3 months ago
The admirable people of Egypt brought down Mubarak by refusing to be divided. Use the same strategy. It's not easy, but it works.
You fought for freedom and democracy and you deserve it.
Respect and solidarity
From Malta
Wrapped4 3 months ago
THE ARMY EXISTS TO SERVE THE PEOPLE, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND !!!
Valtyful 3 months ago
You cannot have democracy in this chaotic situation. Stability, safety and security should be priority one at the present time. If push comes to shove, I rather see a military ruler than any religious fundamentalist.
omachkar 3 months ago
@omachkar That is a false dilemma. It's not a choice between just a military ruler and a Salafi. The majority of Egyptians do not want either. They want to see a truly representative government that respects religion, respects minorities, and adheres to nationalism. SCAF, and the Salafis are opposed to this outcome, which is why you should be opposed to them.
SultanChase 3 months ago
oh well thats egypt even more fuked !!! looks like it's gonna be a military dictatorship for them or another kleptocracy as is the case in 90% of the modern world
newworldodour 3 months ago
The West should stop all tourism until a real democracy is established.
newspaniard 3 months ago
Mohammedans are just the same as those poor little donkeys they ride on . Mohammed(570-632) says you have to be a slave of Allah . He also states that mohammedans have to obey , so have to be slaves of the rulers . So Egypt is just an example of the utopia Mohammed wanted . Those Mohammedans have to be grateful because they have the society Mohammed wants . No freedom , no democracy that is exactly what mr. Mohammed wanted . All muslim countries have the same fascist rulers , nothing changes !!
hourifromparadise 3 months ago
WOW, didn't see that one coming...
JyeDante777 3 months ago
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JyeDante777 3 months ago
It should be noted that the Muslim Brotherhood has repreatedly lied about how many members it intended to put up for elections. Lying is nothing new to them as they have openly said they use deception as their main method for advancement.
I hope the Egyptians are fed up with lyers after so much rule under Mubarak.
Egyptians should think twice about putting people into power who already think lies and deception are the proper way to gain advancement.
jjk9999 3 months ago
@jjk9999 The conduct of the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood this past year, even before the Revolution when they were collaborating with Mubarak in the rigged elections in December 2010, helps to explain why Gamal Abdel Nasser despised them so much. Their priorities are not those of the majority of Egyptians, and they are willing to collaborate with the enemies of the people in order to achieve them. They did this in the 1950s with the British, and they're doing it now with SCAF.
SultanChase 3 months ago
@SultanChase Thankyou that was very informative. They also assisted Hitler against the British in WWII. This just shows they will side with anyone. The egyptian people don't know who else they vote for when they vote Muslim Brotherhood. Will they side with salafists? Wahabis? Shia? Turkey? The army, the banks? There is no way to know who or what they will stand with at any time on secular or political issues. They place too much value on opportunsism and insincerity to be trusted by voters.
jjk9999 3 months ago
@jjk9999 I fear that you are absolutely right. It's depressing. The Brotherhood didn't win the Revolution (indeed, until almost the end they forbade their members from participating in the demonstrations against Mubarak), but now they seem poised to play the deciding role in how the Revolution plays out. It's sickening that last week when brave Egyptians (including dissident younger members of the Brotherhood) were being attacked, tortured, even killed by the police, the Brotherhood were absent.
SultanChase 3 months ago
The contents of this documentary don't support the title. It in fact shows a nation at the beginning of a transition rather than a hijacking in process. I was very glad to see the emerging female leaders and that the copts and democratic forces are far from giving up.
Now that there will be many options for Egyptians they may not fall under the influence of the radical islamists.
jjk9999 3 months ago
Revolution hijabed, more like.
Fridaey13txhOktober 3 months ago
@Fridaey13txhOktober Haha, gun pun. Although, as you know, the majority of Egyptian women were wearing the higab (as it is called in Egypt) for decades prior to the Revolution this year.
SultanChase 3 months ago
The thing is, they had their face towels far less in the 70s than in the 2000s.
Fridaey13txhOktober 3 months ago
@Fridaey13txhOktober If you want to look at it like that, then the higab is more of a hair warmer than a face towel since it leaves the face totally exposed - something not so dissimilar to the prevailing fashion in the West in the early 20th century. Even Jackie Kennedy was a big fan of them, and that was in the 1960s.
SultanChase 3 months ago
Everyone in Egypt has to watch this video
fishinglover100 3 months ago
nicely documenated, but only seeing it from one perspective, doesn´t represent the real stuff...
hi2fi2 3 months ago
I seen what youes done
gercolt 3 months ago
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malayneum 3 months ago
The sad truth that's not shown even in this film is that most Egyptians are backweard people who still want Sharia Law, want censorship, army control, female circumcision, anti-gay laws.
There is no solution coming anytime soon.
Ironically, the only Muslim population in the world that has truly started to advance and embrace freedom, hard work, education, and modern values - against all odds, is Israel.
LibertyDownUnder 3 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder What the fuck are you talking about?
1) Israel isn't a Muslim nation. Less than 16% of the populous is Muslim.
2) There are lots of autonomous states with a majority of the population being Muslim that have "advanced" and that embrace freedom, hard work, education, and modern values as you put it...Turkey, Bosnia, Bahrain? Even the Saudi's embrace hard work and have revalued their mostly religious education system.
3) Proof that most Egyptians want Sharia and are backward?
Territomauvais 3 months ago
@Territomauvais,
1. I meant to say "is in Israel".
2. Turkey is descending into radicalism on daily basis now. Youtube is blocked there BTW
3. 80% in a Gallup poll there want some form of sharia law. 66% are illiterate.
LibertyDownUnder 3 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder That's ridiculous to say then. One could argue the United States has the most advanced and free Muslim population, or France or Italy or Sweden, lol....
I don't disagree about the negative impact Islam or religion in general has on whole societies. You're just wrong about Israel being the only Middle Eastern state to embrace freedom and whatnot.
Also how is that proof? You just proved how inaccurate polls are. 66% are illiterate and thus don't know what Sharia is. Lol...
Territomauvais 3 months ago
@Territomauvais, well you don't have to be literate to follow religion.
I don't know about US Muslims, but the Muslims have completley failed to integrate in Europe.
They've turned Sweden into Europe's rape capital, they beat up gay people in Amsterdam, and their unemployment rate is sky high.
LibertyDownUnder 3 months ago
Wow! Like I am hearing Adonis Georgiadis' show or political program of Golden Dawn here! Note:1) Jossef Goebels was "Arian"(like Swedes and Dutch) not American or Australian -although I think he became after his "suicide"! By the way Europe never even tried to integrate them. They were always just the lowlife cheap working hands! Note2) I didn't know that Australia is in Europe!!! Note3) I suppose you know personaly who brought the knife to Alex Viens, and who "accidentaly" shot Marwa's husband!
Peristerygr 3 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder No doubt the Mullahs wouldn't preach the truth, just like priests and pastors here in the USA are notorious for lying about what the scriptures actually say. And 99% of America is LITERATE!
Ask Muslims if they really think apostates should be murdered, or women stoned. The numbers WILL be lower than those who want "some form of Sharia"
But again, I don't disagree with the impact for evil religion has. The support for suicide bombers and terrorism isn't very promising...etc.
Territomauvais 3 months ago
@Territomauvais I am not generalising but i think you are dealing with an European Third Positionist here! That is what I was talking about?
Peristerygr 3 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder Have you ever heard of "Grey Wolfs"? They are western style Turkish skinheads -nothing to do with Islam Radicalism! Many turks are becoming "Grey Wolfs" lately! You may have met some in the last Hate Festival!
Peristerygr 3 months ago
The fight is not over, may Allah give us the strength and wisdom to fight on for freedom. I only hope it dosnt turn into civil war.
zeeab 3 months ago
@zeeab Humans naturally crave freedom. The more the military council pushes the people, the more angry and resentful and bitter they will be. The desire to be free is in all of us. No religion is needed.
Almost all of us are strong enough and wise enough to simply demand liberty and justice. It's innate in us as highly evolved creatures.
But then again, unfortunately servility is hardwired into us by evolution too. So these revolutions take WAY too long to happen due to complacency.
Territomauvais 3 months ago
@Territomauvais Yes you are so right, freedom seems to be something Allah planted in us, it's a life long struggle. There will be another big protest here in Egypt on the 17 or 18 of this month, people are talking more revolution and they dont want the military.
zeeab 3 months ago
Egyptian revolution hijacked by western propaganders and youtube clone-agents and drones (which are plenty here as I notice)! Those people revoluted for democracy and against corruption and oppretion not for Taliban!!
Peristerygr 3 months ago
@Peristerygr Saying the arab spring protesters want democracy is an extreme overstatement. They're tired of status quo puppet dictators prompt up by the west. The economic conditions plays a major part as well.
chakazulu87 3 months ago
@chakazulu87 I didn't say something different! And it is far from sure that they are not Taliban! Of course Islamist fountamentalists are trying to take advantage as all far right wing conservatives do in time of crysis in any country!!!
Peristerygr 3 months ago
i wish khilafah rule over the world~
shazillazhar 3 months ago
@shazillazhar then we could all live like shit! great
ThomasRowsell 3 months ago
@shazillazhar The true Khilafah only lasted for three decades, and ended with the martyrdom of the fourth noble Khalifa, Ali. After that, it became a monarchy, being passed from father to son. Sadly, if the Khalifiah couldn't even work in the years immediately following the death of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH), then it cannot work today.
SultanChase 3 months ago
Islam solves everything. We can all stop thinking now.
fercos33 3 months ago
FUCK SCAF
BayKingston 3 months ago
Saadawi has the right idea. Hope she and others like her can keep the Islamist at bay. Freedom and liberty! From religious and military domination. I am a Christian.
Walhei960 3 months ago
@Walhei960 Nawal El Saadawi is a lunatic, and a borderline traitor. She has nothing positive to offer the people of Egypt, either Muslim or Christian. Egyptian unity is to be found in nationalism. The same nationalism of Mohammed Naguib and Gamal Abdel Nasser. Both men enjoyed excellent relations with the Coptic Orthodox Church, respected its leaders, and were respected by them in return. Nationalism is what can bind us together as brothers. One Egypt for all Egyptians - Muslim and Christian.
SultanChase 3 months ago
I'm not sure what everyone expected to happen.
elsquibbs 3 months ago
Blame the bankers and federal reserve. Enough said. Everyone else in their "elite" seat of power is just a puppet for them. Get rid of centralized banking, and take back freedom.
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anonymousworldwide 3 months ago
I love your vids, dunno why I watch them more.
People who think this is propaganda or misrepresenting the situation are deluded. This is a very accurate, balanced view of what's going on in Egypt.
Territomauvais 3 months ago
@Territomauvais People who thinks this is a propaganda are racists morons and/or far right wing propaganda pursuers!
Peristerygr 3 months ago
@Peristerygr Now thats quite a generalization.
squishycommander 3 months ago
And accusing all muslim Egytian protestors being Islamists fontamentalists isn't generalisation, it is "the undeniable truth", right? Are you going to show me uncomplete spesific sentences of verses of Quran whitch is heard like supporting terrorism, hate and misoginism? Or a timeline of attacks by islamists terrorists? Are you going to call me "illiterate" because of some mispellings? You will respond here or in my profile?Are you going to call me stupid moron? Islamist scum? Nigger lover?
Peristerygr 3 months ago
@squishycommander Everything I mentioned it happened to me every time I was talking for talking for that issue! Some of them reported me! That is why I know all possible -startegical- responses in this case -besides complete nonsenses which can't be written here! I've been told even that I escaped form the asyllum! A guy in my profile say that! I hope you had good intentions!
Peristerygr 3 months ago
@Peristerygr I agree with squishycommander that that is a rather large generalization, haha.
People who think this is propaganda may just be stupid. Or naive about geopolitics and thinks everyone has an agenda and objective journalism doesn't exist. Or NOT naive about geopolitics and still thinks objective journalism doesn't exist at all.
Nonetheless, your generalization has some truth in it. But you take away credibility from that fact by using hyperbole...
Territomauvais 3 months ago
@Territomauvais I suppose you are right! Everything you say are options! But there are people here who don't really care if an information is accurate but if it fits with his prejustices or even with the propaganda he is pursuing, If you know what I mean!!! And I am sorry for being aggresive but I was bashed many time here by bigots, racists, discriminators,who have much greater hypeboles and generalisations in their speach than me and pretty much often they are very rude and highly insultive!
Peristerygr 3 months ago
@Peristerygr I understand. :)
Territomauvais 3 months ago
Hussni Mubarak & his establishment was an American puppet/tool. If only USA, gives them Freedom, they would live according to what they believe.
But America will never do that.
Egyptians Hate Democracy but Love Islam.
abikani 3 months ago
@abikani What evidence can you offer to support your claim that: "Egyptians Hate Democracy..."? Most Muslim Egyptians view elections as the only practical means of shura (Islamic consultation), which means that they are mandatory for Muslims, not optional. As elections in Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, Nigeria, and Turkey have demonstrated, when Muslims are able to express their wishes through truly free elections, they vote for parties that support shari'ah.
SultanChase 3 months ago
@SultanChase The fact that the majority of Egyptians are muslims says that they HATE democracy as Democracy is a unislamic system originating from Greek words 'Demos = people,kratos=power' where Human being legislates through representative etc. democracy.As Abraham Lincoln said once, Rule by the people, for the people, from the people. In Islam 'The rule is to none but Allah' Quran. That is why Muslims Egyptians hate democracyetc. as it is against their belief.
abikani 3 months ago
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@abikani Do the Muslims of Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, Nigeria, and Turkey also "HATE democracy"? How about the millions of Muslim Egyptians who voted in the constitutional referendum in April of this year? How about the millions of Muslim Egyptians who will vote in the upcoming Egyptian parliamentary elections? Do they all "HATE democracy"? Elections = shura, and are the only way for true shari'ah to be implemented, and then protected. Elections are obligatory for true Muslims.
SultanChase 3 months ago
egypt transition from republic to democracy to oligarchy
zen5678 3 months ago
Egyptian want Islam not democracy. This video is trying to hijack people's sacrfice to live by Islam.
A biased video!
abikani 3 months ago
@abikani Yes yes! In this video they are all jihadistic Taliban who try to fool West! Did you send a congratulations postacard to Alex Wiens -the "hero" who "saved Germany" from the "terrorist" Marwa El-Sherbini?
Peristerygr 3 months ago
9:57 pretty much sums up the documentary. You're wrong, I'm right. No peace until I get what I want. @mrbenyong name one group of people that aren't two faced? It's a human problem. It's not all of them, just the loudest ones.
mmeah82 3 months ago
Just proves that ALL forms of government are wrong! Give the power to the people, let us live in peace...fuck the governments of the world.
Macsgrafs 3 months ago
@Macsgrafs Your anarchism is an utter display of ignorance, not ALL forms of government are wrong, some forms of government do give power to the people, maybe not perfectly, but I'm certain without a government you would be one of the first wooly headed fatalilities of the Anarchy you call for.
starcatcher2222 3 months ago
@starcatcher2222 of course they are wrong, dont you know anything about freedom??? Show me a government that isnt corrupt!!!!!! You cant, now go back to sleep, be the good sheeple that you sdo obviously are by your shill answer!
Macsgrafs 3 months ago
@Macsgrafs Show me people who aren't corrupt!!!! Don't you know anything about people??? i'm wide awake not a dunderhead mouthing fantasies!!
starcatcher2222 3 months ago
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This human.
Fridaey13txhOktober 3 months ago
@starcatcher2222 So why did you comment against me in the 1st place if you're supposedly awake!!!! You would have agreed...go back to sleep.
Macsgrafs 3 months ago
@Macsgrafs Because you fit Lenins definition of "useful idiot"
starcatcher2222 3 months ago
@starcatcher2222 So that proves you cant think up a saying of your own! SAD, very sad!!!
Macsgrafs 3 months ago
@Macsgrafs Why should I when you are so gewnerically definable?
starcatcher2222 3 months ago
@starcatcher2222 You are such a great judge of people...NOT!!! Dont push me into one of your overheard big worded names, I am a human & have compassion, something which you clearly show lack of. In not going to reply to you any more as you bore the fuck out of me..YAWN!
Macsgrafs 3 months ago
@Macsgrafs Your simply a criticiser who cneeds to look past your nose and think of adequate solutions to problems, Your anarchistic nonsense would only make things worse. As far as lacking compassion I disagree, A strong sense of compassion is essential to the art of torture because one must have an empathic feeling for ones subject. Would you like a Job? The Money isn't great but the travel and benefits make up for it.
starcatcher2222 3 months ago
@starcatcher2222 I believe that you may find that Lenin never used that term, and that it was coined many years later by Western opponents of Lenin to characterise what they considered to be his views.
SultanChase 3 months ago
American Propaganda Machine on the work.
USFullOfLies 3 months ago
we need another revolution again
Doteatsurpants 3 months ago
Arabs Love Lying! Done business with them, all the same. The generals, the business men, the politicians. Typical typical typical. They never change.
mrbenyong 3 months ago
nothing has changed after the 1989 tiananmen protestes in china neither
wangb13 3 months ago
Has things gone better after Mubarak left, NO... Coptics are being slaughtered, lets not use the word killed because it is nothing what the coptics are going through. This state can never implement equality between religion and culture.
Gr33kElite 3 months ago
@Gr33kElite That''s because Mubarak wasn't the problem. IT WAS THE WHOLE SYSTEM GOVERNMENT AND MILITARY IN EGYPT. DId WW2 end with just killing Hitler? What if they let the Nazi Generals to continue controlling Germany and allowed them to keep their power? Hitler didn't physically killed millions of Jews, THE GERMAN NAZI ARMY did. The some thing in Egypt, the soldiers and media are not friends. The Egyptian media are blaming Coptics for the deaths of civilians, who were killed by the army!
KpopManiacSFL 3 months ago 2
@KpopManiacSFL The Egyptian military IS the friend of the people. It is the generals who are the enemy. SCAF has now even started arresting members of the army for supporting the Revolution. The soldiers of Egypt - both Muslim and Christian - have always been loyal to the Republic. It is the leadership that is rotten and treasonous.
SultanChase 3 months ago