BAE Systems - CV90 Infantry Fighting Vehicle [480p]

[MrXray2011]

Is the British Army or Royal Marines getting any of these, does anyone know?

[MrXray2011]

BAE makes the best military hardware in the world.

[MrRad84]

It's decent equipment but now I'm waiting for the Anders to be produced it'll set new standards and with new Hisfit 120mm tower packs a proper punch!

[Speededbird]

Engineered in Sweden, Swedish Scania engine, Swedish Bofors Cannon (at least the CV 9040) buildt in Örnsköldsvik Sweden - Swedish steel at its best!

//CV9040 driver/gunner

[Sunclief]

@Speededbird So there for it's not Britishhhhhh is it?

[cowly24876]

@Speededbird If it's an entirely swedish machine and is the property of these swedish firms, then why is B.A.E being associated with and spending money on marketing and promoting this product...wouldn't they be in competition with the swedish firms??

[starknight97]

shes not bad but not the best either.

[82ndairborne100]

Its like they took a Bradley, beefed it up, then put it in a Leopard.

[titytit]

something tells me that this would run very well alongside the Challenger 2, as its nearly identical to the Leopard 2

[parzifal2]

marder clon with steroids

[USMCxXxKid]

wait what is it ?

[Pythonater09]

it reminds me of the warrior

[MegaSdog123]

is this better than the warrior infantry fighting vechical?

[MegaSdog123]

its kinda like calling jaguar and land rover indian.... which they arent they are just owned by the indians

[TheBWHZE]

ITS like a little bro from leopard a7+

[titytit]

looks like a British Warrior with a tank cannon instead of an auto cannon.

[ollonsvin]

@titytit This have the Bofors L70 40mm auto cannon that fires the 3P ammo. Most advanced auto cannon in the world with it´s programable ammo. CV 90 built by Hägglunds BAE systems in sweden. I think that the British warrior its more or les the same chassie. uk use cummins engine CV 90 Scania. Dont know about the warrior gun thoe

[titytit]

@ollonsvin the Warrior also has a 40mm autocannon, dont know what make it is tho.

[m52spy]

British Aerospace, best in the world.

[HauptmannRob]

@m52spy

Technically BAE systems isn't British Aerospace. BAe was its origin + largest company but the BAE as we know it is an amalgamation of several companies.

[micoforion]

@HauptmannRob BEA System is British Aerospace, this is how the company is refereed to to this very day, I live in UK and we just had massive scandal erupting in to former Defense minister Fox dealings with his bf I mean friend and strange contracts he was negotiating between British Aerospace and Some dodgy clients in Dubai. BEAS took over United Defense, Bofors and few other defence contractors to become worlds largest defence contractor, or world's 2nd largest.

[HauptmannRob]

@micoforion

I live in the UK as well.

On BAEs site a question is asked in their FAQ "When did BAe systems (formerly British Aerospace) merge with Marconi electric systems?"

BAE wrote the question to put in their FAQ and if it was still British Aerospace would they not have changed the question? Because it doesn't address it in the answer about BAE being British Aerospace so i believe the "formerly" part to be true. Nostalgia calles BAE british aerospace these days.

[micoforion]

@HauptmannRob BEA Systems - stands for British Aerospace Engineering Systems, main revenue for the company are defense and aerospace systems, hope that answerers your question, and media refers to it to this day as BEAS or British Aerospace as this is what they are, not for sentimental reasons.

[HauptmannRob]

@micoforion

If BAE Systems don't call themselves British Aerospace on their own website, then thats good enough for me bud :/

[m52spy]

@HauptmannRob

Well of course it's taken over many companies along the way. But its still British and has its HQ in the UK.

[HauptmannRob]

@m52spy

BAE don't even call themselves British Aerospace on their own website, they've removed the 'British' component in the name to make the company seem more global.

[m52spy]

@HauptmannRob

But it`s still British. 

[NiamOfAsuras]

@m52spy It was actually designed by a swedish company, not by the british. It is only referred to as british because BAE bought the company that made it.

[paecmaker]

@m52spy Hägglunds made the vehicle, and yes they are owned bye BAE and that is British, however Hägglunds is still Swedish.

[transonicbuoy]

@paecmaker Yes you are right. We bought it. You make it. In the same way the Brits have bought a majority share of US armor-manufacturing.

[SquirrelFromGradLife]

@m52spy BAE is a multinational company. To call BAE British equates to calling Manchester United American because they have American owners. As my basic example have demonstrated you're retarded.

[m52spy]

@SquirrelFromGradLife

Hmm, the HQ is in UK, its always been a British company. They own many foreign defence companies (hence the multinational). You my friend are a berk.

[m52spy]

@SquirrelFromGradLife

And as for Man Utd they might as well be American as they make no money...

[transonicbuoy]

@SquirrelFromGradLife Wrong. It is 100% British. They even make US Marines` howitzers. They bought all the big US armor firms. They supply the M1 with British armour. BAE have bought out all the big US military firms. That is a fact.

[transonicbuoy]

@SquirrelFromGradLife It`s all down to the international stock exchange. International business, but the HQ is always in the home nation, and that`s where you buy the shares. Mini cars are made in england, but the Germans own it. You buy their shares in Germany.

[transonicbuoy]

@m52spy Yes. And the British are taking the foreign armoured market. Especially the US. Time to buy BAE shares.

[majorpluraeng]

@m52spy Jurisdically it's British, as BAE took Bofors/Hägglunds under its wing. But the vehicle itself is Swedish in all aspects.

[Braun30]

@m52spy you do know that now RR and Bentley cars now are german, Lotus care are from Malaysia.

[m52spy]

@Braun30

Of course i know. But Rolls Royce engines (For aero planes, boats and subs) is still British and actually makes money, thats why they sold the loss making RR Cars.

[Braun30]

@m52spy I think the base is that all are proud of local capacity, we for instance are happy about the Contraves technology although there are those who do point out the german property by Rheinmetall.

[TheVanezi]

I wish Finland wouldnt have bought these, but we should have bought the BMP-3, cheaper, more weaponry, and the BMP-3 can swim, unlike the CV90, the CV90 is almost useless in the finnish army. :/

[SAsgarters]

@TheVanezi Unfortunately, the BMP-3's weaponry is of no use to us. The 30mm cannon it carries is completely outclassed by the one on the CV 9030, the 100mm gun is pointless since its job is already done by mortars which we have plenty of and the missile is of little use at the distances we have here. The one thing the BMP-3 has going for it, is the ability to swim and I do admit that it's a significant advantage. But the weaponry is useless and I'm glad we didn't waste any money on that "wagon".

[TheVanezi]

@SAsgarters Yeah, we just wasted three times more money on 100 vehicles that we have no use for, the CV9030. But hey, its in fashion to look like a NATO army and be useless :)

[SAsgarters]

@TheVanezi Well, this type of vehicle needs to be able to do more than just swim. Unlike the BMP-3, the CV 9030 can at least do something, if it ever runs into another IFV.

And for every person who thinks it's fashionable to look like a NATO army, there's ten who think that anything manufactured in Russia is better than its Western counterpart by sheer virtue of having been manufactured there..

[TheVanezi]

@SAsgarters I think most people think that everything made in Russia sucks, which i think is just dumb, Russian SAM systems are one of the most advanced in the world, an almost all of them have a moving platform, unlike NASAMS, Patriot etc. that have to be towed and placed with a separate radar. but, CV9030 in combat against a tank is useless, BMP-3 has more armament and it could actually at least damage the tank with its 100mm, CV90 rounds would just ding off and fly away.

[SAsgarters]

@TheVanezi No, most people actually think that what was said about the AK-47 in all the legends, actually applies to everything from Russia.

The BMP-3's 100mm gun is completely worthless against anything with armor protection, including the CV, not to mention tanks. It's basically a mortar, with very low muzzle velocity and HE shells and it is intended to be used against stationary targets only. It's virtually impossible to even hit a functioning vehicle with it, except by pure luck.

[TheVanezi]

@SAsgarters But the BMP-3 can also shoot ATGMS, and all of them carry ATGMs and that will destroy a CV9030 with ease, the BMP-3 is also protected from 30mm rounds, so the CV9030 would have less capability to destroy a BMP-3 than the BMP-3 to destroy a CV

[SAsgarters]

@TheVanezi The BMP-3 has protection against the rounds fired by its OWN 30x165 rounds, which are comparable to the western 25x137mm rounds, thanks to a much more primitive projectile and low muzzle velocity. The 30x173mm gun on the CV is much more powerful and the BMP is no match for it, at all.

As for the ATGM aspect, they only carry 8 rounds, they are slow moving and not very agile and it takes much longer to open fire with a missile, than with a cannon. Plus, there's a minimum distance.

[TheVanezi]

@SAsgarters Still useless in Finland, if Russia attacks, the CV9030 has no fighting capability against russias tanks and aircraft. Same goes for all the IFV's we have.

[micoforion]

@TheVanezi U do realize in times of war CV-90.40 is also armed with eurospike or similar atgm, reason why they aren't right now is due to the costs, U also must realize bmp3 is shit, poor accuracy and poor protection, it would be easy prey for any atgm team or armored unit.

[TheVanezi]

@micoforion CV90 would be just as easy target for a tank or an at team

[micoforion]

@TheVanezi that is true, but CV90 is very accurate has good assortment of ammunition and for what it is it best IFV out there next to Puma. For amphibious warfare you can use AMV Patria and few othe vehicles.

Finish Army needs to look forward now backward ;)/ 

[TheVanezi]

@micoforion Yeah, but because of the shitty situation in Greece & our stupid government at the moment, we will be making more cuts to the defence forces :(

[micoforion]

@TheVanezi not wise thing to do when you border Russia, Finland has no allies, either join the NATO and have common security or maintain good sized army.

[SuperFinnish]

@micoforion I highly doubt that NATO would do anything more then put some bad words towards Russia if Finland were in NATO and there would be war, Russia is more important to US, France and Germany then Finland or the baltics for an example.

[micoforion]

@SuperFinnish perhaps, I personally think Sweden, Norway and Denmark would see Russian attacks as serious national threat and would sent volunteers to help out Finland, as to big EU states, perhaps they'd prove one thing that EU isn't much more than a club for the biggest nations with self interests. I.E Germany, France and Italy. UK is not keen on Russia, too many issues between our two nations.

[SuperFinnish]

@micoforion Full scale war(Russia trying to annex and occupy Finland) is nearly impossible today, most likely event would be Finland applying/showing interest to NATO membership and Russia would do quick military campaign to destroy partly/mostly Finlands military structure making NATO membership no-go. Like that in Georgia.

[ArgHamster]

Finland isn't a part of Scandinavia.

[neutonik]

still throwing spears, i see.

[DrMitsos]

But then again all these countries will never go on war. For example here in Greece where there are tensions over the Aegean, we want a combat proven IFV like BMP-3.

[Skagenin]

@DrMitsos Norway sweden and denmark use the in Astan, I don't know about norway and sweeden, but our troops (danisk) , has been ilvolved in a lot of fighting together with the british in the helmand province, i doubth the greece troops can match this

[BitnikGr]

@Skagenin If you think that low intensity CT operations against cavemen can be compared with hell which will brake loose in case of Turkish-Greek war then you are simply delusional.

[Skagenin]

@BitnikGr Veryvery strange, i didn't write this, i have to change my password on YT

[Skagenin]

@BitnikGr But i really don't home there will be a war between TK and GK ever, war in europe is something that happens before year 2000 we should have learned the lesson now

[BitnikGr]

@Skagenin Noone wants war and everyone hopes that this will never happen. But as an ancient military saying goes "If you want peace, then prepare for the war." Only a well prepared army is a guarantee of no-attack.

[Skagenin]

@BitnikGr In a way you are right, but like TK and GK Denmark and Sweden has been at war against each other since before the viking age , but it will never happens again, even if we could, we are brothers,we will never point weapons against each other,but we do beat the Swedes in fotball, i hope the same could happens between GK and TK ppl

[BitnikGr]

@Skagenin It is natural to feel friendly and almost family feelings when you have common history, common culture, common religion, common military alliance and common third enemy, isn't it? :)

[Skagenin]

@BitnikGr No it is not the point, i think the point is that even that DK and S have been at war so many times and for that matter Dk and german states , there has never been tyranny and surpressing, it has been war against kings not the people,and the facts that in the old days ppl didn't care if they was swedes or danish except for the ruling classes, but thats my guess

[111q222p333m444z]

@DrMitsos Actually all of those countries have sent troops to fight in the War in Afghanistan, except for Switzerland. Dutch and Danish troops have been involved in particularly heavy fighting alongside British and Canadian troops in the south.

[MrAzzman31]

@DrMitsos what tensions man ? i am half greek half turkish living in smyrna and seriously it is just some training for both sides it is not like greece will attack turkey or turkey will attack greece. why would we do that ? we did it like a hundred years before it did not end realy well for both sides...

[BitnikGr]

@MrAzzman31 History shows, that as long as there is a parity in forces noone will attack noone, because losses will be too heavy than aimed goals.

But if parity will lost, then I don't see many reasons, why Turkey wouldn't hesitate in order to capture more European lands in Evros and Thracia.

[Lachausis]

Chosen by 6 countries. 4 of them doesn't count since they all are Scandinavian countries - Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Norway. The question is, who are the two that have chosen CV90?

[arronlee33]

@Lachausis

Switzerland & Netherlands.

[SefoQuebec]

@arronlee33 Canada is buying like 100 cv9040 and cv9030. Service in 2014

[SefoQuebec]

@arronlee33 & Canada

[wellerocks]

@Lachausis why wouldn't it count? They've battled against the M2A2 Bradleys in various competitions for the role of future IFV. Just look at Sweden, we didn't even choose the BAE Hagglunds SEP or the BAE Hagglunds Alligator for our latest armored infantry vehicle.

[Lachausis]

@wellerocks Because they are neighbours of Sweden and it costs much less to buy CV90 and upkeep it than importing the expensive Bradleys from across the ocean.

[wellerocks]

@Lachausis not necessarily. Buying the bradley could provide a large industriel offset to be able to produce them in e.g. Norway or Denmark. The Industrial off-set will create jobs, an industry and a boost to the national economy.

[ovis28]

@Lachausis Canada too

[Hagge17]

@Lachausis Why doesn't Scandinavian countries count?

[swertinge07]

@Lachausis Why don´t they count, just becasue they are Scandinavian...?

[Hairysteed]

@Lachausis Why wouldn't Scandinavian countries count?

[IntronDepot1]

@Lachausis Canada also, will acquire this system now.