I just can`t believe... Russians are always bad, in every movie or game, they are evil and Americans are good. USA is a poison that must be destroyed. Long live Russia and freedom. Fuck American`s democracy that is another word for tiranny. History is written by winner, and Russia is going to win this war with BRIC and all Orthodoxian Brothers Motherland have! URA! URA! URA!
In case of war we the USA would win (advantage in technics, high moral spirit, etc.), but Gorbachev who has betraid the USSR, Russia, Russian here has come to power, has destroyed economy, has destroyed army, has destroyed the nation.... And eventually has killed the USSR
@MrJrMcLovin Neither would win, look at cold war era numbers they were almost equal in everything. You don't know what the hell you are talking about.
@Darkestsides i dont know what you are talking about buddy. it costs more to make an Abrams then to make a T-90 or what ever the USSR used in that time.Numbers don’t win wars, resources and money win wars.
And if it is cheaper to manufacture a T-90 then an Abrams then the USSR has the upper hand. It might of not been as affective then an Abrams but it still did the job and the Soviets had lost of them.
so I think its you who does not know what the fuck your talking about. Get your facts.
@MrJrMcLovin@MrJrMcLovin You do realize that just because, the USSR has more tanks doesn't mean much. Hand held SRAW or a TOW missile on a Humvee could turn it into scrap metal, the frontal armor of the tanks wouldn't be able to stop it. For every M1A1 destroyed, I would say three T-80's would go with it. That's not calculating what Air support, or infantry would destroy. America also had the best airforce back in the cold war era, also a larger and more modern navy.
@Darkestsides You don’t make much sense my friend, your basing a Humvee to a tank, I doubt the TOW would even be in range for a kill when the tank can get a kill from 2 miles a way. And the States did not necessary have the best airforce at that time they use the F 15 and that plane never got shot down and has the best survivability of any US jet at the time but you cant really say anything about the Russian air force cause they dint have any combat since Afghanistan so you cant reallly say that
@MrJrMcLovin You would be surprised, the tow can reach out at 3000 with special ammunition it can even go as far as 4000 meters. Of course they wouldn't engage a tank while sitting in the open they would be turned to dust , but by ambushing and hiding they could affectively wound an armor column. It's not to hard to make a small Humvee blend in with a bush. Also I might add, it's not that big of a target unlike a T-80.
@MrJrMcLovin About the USSR vs USA in air superiority, American planes have been proven better, maybe because of the pilots, but Operation desert storm there was air to air combat, and America didn't lose one plane from air to air combat. I think Israel also has had Dogfights with their version the the "F-16" and the outcome was in Israel's favor. But you are right, besides a few dog fights here and there by other countries no big air battles. I would bet on Americas planes any day though.
@Darkestsides that’s cool, but I would say that the Russians air force is superior. American planes rely too much on technology and again they are too expensive to manufacture, if they US had an infinite supply of cash deposits then of course it the states would win, but they don’t so I believe that the Russian Mig. Or Su’s will do as good as a job as an F-15, F-22 or F-35’s
@MrJrMcLovin Yeah you have a very strong point, I don't like the F-22 or the F-35, the F-35 especially, It is a piece of junk, Su-27 beats it in dog fights according to Harpoon 3 simulation. F-22 is far to over priced and complicated to be mass produced too. Back in the late 80's and early 90's it was a different story, but I agree with you now. If they phase out their other jets the US would be hopeless against Russia.
@Darkestsides And actually not to sound like a smart ass but there navy were the same. But the US had more ships.
There aircraft caries came out in the same year 1975, the Russians had a larger Submarine fleet, the US did not even have cruisers until 1983. The Russians have a larger range of ship classes, from Destroyers to Frigates . If I’m not mistaken the states have 6-7 fleets while the Russians I believe only have 5. I’m not sure if that’s true but I know the US have more fleets then USSR
@MrJrMcLovin Also, During the time the war erupted in the game, America was just starting to get the Aegis Combat System on a some of their vessels which would put them at a much greater advantage technology wise when it came to navel warfare. Their missiles would be able to hit ships, and other missiles much more affectively then any Russian surface ship. The reason why the US didn't have such variety of ships is, because of the way their fleet system works.
@MrJrMcLovin I've read books upon books of cold war speculation, I cannot say I am an expert, but from what I can accumulate from about 8 books about the cold war that is my opinion. I suggest you read Tom Clancy's, Red Storm Rising It was an amazing book and it really opened my eyes about the subject. You can probably find it and Chapters in Canada, or Indigo in the states for $9. I'm Canadian by the way and I'm not bias towards the states. I just look at the facts.
@Darkestsides I’m Canadian too, from Quebec. The only Tom Clancy book I’ve read was the Bear and the Dragon, and that I was a sick book. I mostly get my info on the Cold war from Docs. And books but mostly from my History teacher and my dad. They teach me a lot bout this kind of stuff especially my dad, the military runs in our family, he an ex British royal marine and our family has been involved in every war with the British and he teaches me these kind of stuff, I’m 14 so i think its cool
@MrJrMcLovin Ohh, I see. Yeah Military runs in my family tree as well, My great grandfather was in the navy during world war 2. My grand father was an officer in the airforce, my uncle was engineer for the Canadian military, and my cousin is in Afghanistan. I'm personally planning to go to the RMC in Kingston Ontario to become an Officer in the army. I'm 18.
@Darkestsides that’s really cool, my dad wants to put me in the Royal military academy in Kingston, but I don’t know if I really want to go. He wants me to be an Officer in the Navy but I suffer from a condition called PE , you should Google it. It sucks and I’m afraid they wont accept me because of it, I know I wouldn’t accept some one with it . So I might just end up going to John Abbott. My dad is really disappointed with it, he wanted me to continue the family tradition.
@MrJrMcLovin pulmonary embolism? That is very serious. I hope your condition can eventually be treated, we need more officers with a knowledge in history. Going to university isn't bad either. You could probably get a job that pays more then a commissioned officer. But It's not about the money. =]
@Darkestsides Lol no PE (Pectus Excavatum) it’s a chest disorder, I am physically fit, I do 60 push-ups a day and 200 setups its just my disorder limits me so I cant do more. I could get an operation to correct it but I’m to pussy to get it and my Medicare wont cover all of it. But it does not stop me from dreaming that maybe 1 day I cant serve my county.
@MrJrMcLovin Oh, I see. Yeah, I'm sure they will still except you with that condition. For the reserve push-up test you only have to do 20. I'm sure you will do just fine.
aww sad thing about this pack is story still the same as the first 1 just from russia view i know it base on Novel but still want alternate ending that Soviet won =3= well still good game
Only the idea behind this is a bit faulty - Because at 1989 the Soviet Union was too weak to attack It didn't have the military strength or the economical strength to pull of a war, nor did the leaders wished to have one.
It would have been much more interesting if it would have been placed in about the 1960s or 1950s when there was the Korean War(dont remember the exact date) which almost broke out into a 3rd WW - it would have fitted very well for this scenario of Russians mounting up
only reason they used 1989 was because of germany in a right mess, and the berlin wall fell then, here the russians fell'd it for them and did what germany did to france to germany in an ironic way, but yeah, it was only the surprise of america being land assaulted if anything that makes it look worse.
@gunforsale But it would have been a World War 2 game (almost) because they still used some ww2 weapons and vehicles in the 1950's and also some (not as many) in the 1960's.
@gunforsale I think they wanted to differentiate their units from the typical WW2 titles and put it in some sort of a modern setting. With impact of it being closer to home. In the Korean war, the weapons used were similar to WW2 weapons as there was a scale down of all the forces by the allied side.
@gunforsale they used 1989 cuz tensions were at their peak with thatcher in britain(dunno the spelling) and reigan in US especially after afghanistan,while in 1950's or 60's tensions were lower.BTW,Ussr had the military strength to crush NATO and with a little more strength even US but not the economy in 1989
@gunforsale lots of wars are started when one nation is weaker and wants to get stronger. wars unite ones nation and boosts production for the war effort. it pretty much makes everyone forget that there where any economical problems. its like a new start. its what the Germans did in world war 2 and many other nations too.
@stormgx they didn't "just one day decide to attack." Sure, Hitler wasn't quite right in the head, but the nazis had a massive plan. They just implemented it Blitzkrieg style :)
It's not like Germany needed reliable access to resources, territory, and sovereignty which in their situation could only be achieved by weakening or even occupying their powerful neighbours - all the things Soviet Union had it excess. No, they just were evil warmongering idiots who wanted to take over the world just for the sake of it. Just like the USSR. Right.
Randomly attacks? Their whole ideology was based upon the wet dream of spreading communism all over the world. Since the Soviet Union was about to fall...the soviets decided to go all or nothing.
@Unit987654321 They had a reason, their own political system was crumbling at the roots during that time, the only way to save it is to start a war. It makes perfect sense, how else would the USSR survive. They would be able to conquer much land and natural recourses from adjacent countries to help sustain their war effort. Even if they were to "loose" the war, they still wouldn't be vanquished. Between USSR and NATO it would be a draw, there would be no change in borders, just young lives.
@Darkestsides There would only be really 2 outcomes, Nuclear holocaust, or stalemate and I'm more then sure neither of the countries would be beating back to the point they would use nuclear weapons. It would be a war of attrition, just wearing down each others logistics until there is nothing left on either side, this is also why this war never happened, the leaders knew that it would be WW1 all over again, millions of lives lost, not even a rock gained.
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m3lOun 4 months ago
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ixonixas 6 months ago
I just can`t believe... Russians are always bad, in every movie or game, they are evil and Americans are good. USA is a poison that must be destroyed. Long live Russia and freedom. Fuck American`s democracy that is another word for tiranny. History is written by winner, and Russia is going to win this war with BRIC and all Orthodoxian Brothers Motherland have! URA! URA! URA!
OrthodoxySoldier 7 months ago
the grafic isnt very nice
vokuable 1 year ago
this has actually got ome pretty good graphics, for an RTS game!
dogensu 1 year ago 4
@dogensu aye and the video graphics aint as good as they actually are in game
stormgx 1 year ago
the only thing i miss in that game was a special campagne wit the german armys Bundeswehr and NVA clashing together.
would have bin nice
MitchMaker 1 year ago
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slickrickdarula 1 year ago
Хочу чтоб СССР победил)) =)
ANTON535 1 year ago
In case of war we the USA would win (advantage in technics, high moral spirit, etc.), but Gorbachev who has betraid the USSR, Russia, Russian here has come to power, has destroyed economy, has destroyed army, has destroyed the nation.... And eventually has killed the USSR
JIOruH 1 year ago
@JIOruH You know , for every 1 Abrams tanks America has , the Soviets would have 3 t-80s
For every 1 F-15 fighter jet , the Soviets would have 3 Sukoi SU-27 fighter jet .
For Every 1 Apache chopper , the Soviets would have 3 Havocs.
Its just a mater of numbers , the US might have better stuff , its just the Soviets have more of them and they did the job pretty damn good.
Im nether American nor Russian , but id say Russia would win .
MrJrMcLovin 1 year ago
@MrJrMcLovin Neither would win, look at cold war era numbers they were almost equal in everything. You don't know what the hell you are talking about.
Darkestsides 1 year ago
@Darkestsides i dont know what you are talking about buddy. it costs more to make an Abrams then to make a T-90 or what ever the USSR used in that time.Numbers don’t win wars, resources and money win wars.
And if it is cheaper to manufacture a T-90 then an Abrams then the USSR has the upper hand. It might of not been as affective then an Abrams but it still did the job and the Soviets had lost of them.
so I think its you who does not know what the fuck your talking about. Get your facts.
MrJrMcLovin 1 year ago
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Darkestsides 1 year ago
@MrJrMcLovin @MrJrMcLovin You do realize that just because, the USSR has more tanks doesn't mean much. Hand held SRAW or a TOW missile on a Humvee could turn it into scrap metal, the frontal armor of the tanks wouldn't be able to stop it. For every M1A1 destroyed, I would say three T-80's would go with it. That's not calculating what Air support, or infantry would destroy. America also had the best airforce back in the cold war era, also a larger and more modern navy.
Darkestsides 1 year ago
@Darkestsides You don’t make much sense my friend, your basing a Humvee to a tank, I doubt the TOW would even be in range for a kill when the tank can get a kill from 2 miles a way. And the States did not necessary have the best airforce at that time they use the F 15 and that plane never got shot down and has the best survivability of any US jet at the time but you cant really say anything about the Russian air force cause they dint have any combat since Afghanistan so you cant reallly say that
MrJrMcLovin 1 year ago
@MrJrMcLovin You would be surprised, the tow can reach out at 3000 with special ammunition it can even go as far as 4000 meters. Of course they wouldn't engage a tank while sitting in the open they would be turned to dust , but by ambushing and hiding they could affectively wound an armor column. It's not to hard to make a small Humvee blend in with a bush. Also I might add, it's not that big of a target unlike a T-80.
Darkestsides 1 year ago
@MrJrMcLovin About the USSR vs USA in air superiority, American planes have been proven better, maybe because of the pilots, but Operation desert storm there was air to air combat, and America didn't lose one plane from air to air combat. I think Israel also has had Dogfights with their version the the "F-16" and the outcome was in Israel's favor. But you are right, besides a few dog fights here and there by other countries no big air battles. I would bet on Americas planes any day though.
Darkestsides 1 year ago
@Darkestsides that’s cool, but I would say that the Russians air force is superior. American planes rely too much on technology and again they are too expensive to manufacture, if they US had an infinite supply of cash deposits then of course it the states would win, but they don’t so I believe that the Russian Mig. Or Su’s will do as good as a job as an F-15, F-22 or F-35’s
MrJrMcLovin 1 year ago
@MrJrMcLovin Yeah you have a very strong point, I don't like the F-22 or the F-35, the F-35 especially, It is a piece of junk, Su-27 beats it in dog fights according to Harpoon 3 simulation. F-22 is far to over priced and complicated to be mass produced too. Back in the late 80's and early 90's it was a different story, but I agree with you now. If they phase out their other jets the US would be hopeless against Russia.
Darkestsides 1 year ago
@Darkestsides And actually not to sound like a smart ass but there navy were the same. But the US had more ships.
There aircraft caries came out in the same year 1975, the Russians had a larger Submarine fleet, the US did not even have cruisers until 1983. The Russians have a larger range of ship classes, from Destroyers to Frigates . If I’m not mistaken the states have 6-7 fleets while the Russians I believe only have 5. I’m not sure if that’s true but I know the US have more fleets then USSR
MrJrMcLovin 1 year ago
@MrJrMcLovin Also, During the time the war erupted in the game, America was just starting to get the Aegis Combat System on a some of their vessels which would put them at a much greater advantage technology wise when it came to navel warfare. Their missiles would be able to hit ships, and other missiles much more affectively then any Russian surface ship. The reason why the US didn't have such variety of ships is, because of the way their fleet system works.
Darkestsides 1 year ago
@MrJrMcLovin I've read books upon books of cold war speculation, I cannot say I am an expert, but from what I can accumulate from about 8 books about the cold war that is my opinion. I suggest you read Tom Clancy's, Red Storm Rising It was an amazing book and it really opened my eyes about the subject. You can probably find it and Chapters in Canada, or Indigo in the states for $9. I'm Canadian by the way and I'm not bias towards the states. I just look at the facts.
Darkestsides 1 year ago
@Darkestsides I’m Canadian too, from Quebec. The only Tom Clancy book I’ve read was the Bear and the Dragon, and that I was a sick book. I mostly get my info on the Cold war from Docs. And books but mostly from my History teacher and my dad. They teach me a lot bout this kind of stuff especially my dad, the military runs in our family, he an ex British royal marine and our family has been involved in every war with the British and he teaches me these kind of stuff, I’m 14 so i think its cool
MrJrMcLovin 1 year ago
@MrJrMcLovin Ohh, I see. Yeah Military runs in my family tree as well, My great grandfather was in the navy during world war 2. My grand father was an officer in the airforce, my uncle was engineer for the Canadian military, and my cousin is in Afghanistan. I'm personally planning to go to the RMC in Kingston Ontario to become an Officer in the army. I'm 18.
Darkestsides 1 year ago
@Darkestsides that’s really cool, my dad wants to put me in the Royal military academy in Kingston, but I don’t know if I really want to go. He wants me to be an Officer in the Navy but I suffer from a condition called PE , you should Google it. It sucks and I’m afraid they wont accept me because of it, I know I wouldn’t accept some one with it . So I might just end up going to John Abbott. My dad is really disappointed with it, he wanted me to continue the family tradition.
MrJrMcLovin 1 year ago
@MrJrMcLovin pulmonary embolism? That is very serious. I hope your condition can eventually be treated, we need more officers with a knowledge in history. Going to university isn't bad either. You could probably get a job that pays more then a commissioned officer. But It's not about the money. =]
Darkestsides 1 year ago
@Darkestsides Lol no PE (Pectus Excavatum) it’s a chest disorder, I am physically fit, I do 60 push-ups a day and 200 setups its just my disorder limits me so I cant do more. I could get an operation to correct it but I’m to pussy to get it and my Medicare wont cover all of it. But it does not stop me from dreaming that maybe 1 day I cant serve my county.
MrJrMcLovin 1 year ago
@MrJrMcLovin Oh, I see. Yeah, I'm sure they will still except you with that condition. For the reserve push-up test you only have to do 20. I'm sure you will do just fine.
Darkestsides 1 year ago
@Darkestsides still i dont wana be in the reserves, i wana be in the Navy or JTF2, my dad's friend is a sgt. in the JTF2 but he is ret.
MrJrMcLovin 1 year ago
Alec Baldwin?!
MacGruber94 1 year ago
aww sad thing about this pack is story still the same as the first 1 just from russia view i know it base on Novel but still want alternate ending that Soviet won =3= well still good game
buffalosiam 1 year ago
The Soviet Union was the toughest nation in the World. So, there role in the Warsaw pact was aggresive.
MrChinesehero 2 years ago
Nice.
Only the idea behind this is a bit faulty - Because at 1989 the Soviet Union was too weak to attack It didn't have the military strength or the economical strength to pull of a war, nor did the leaders wished to have one.
It would have been much more interesting if it would have been placed in about the 1960s or 1950s when there was the Korean War(dont remember the exact date) which almost broke out into a 3rd WW - it would have fitted very well for this scenario of Russians mounting up
gunforsale 2 years ago
only reason they used 1989 was because of germany in a right mess, and the berlin wall fell then, here the russians fell'd it for them and did what germany did to france to germany in an ironic way, but yeah, it was only the surprise of america being land assaulted if anything that makes it look worse.
stormgx 2 years ago
@gunforsale your such a bender its a bloody game
xAZSTARx 1 year ago
@gunforsale
what a bender is just a game
xAZSTARx 1 year ago
@gunforsale But it would have been a World War 2 game (almost) because they still used some ww2 weapons and vehicles in the 1950's and also some (not as many) in the 1960's.
MrRallemulle 1 year ago
@gunforsale I think they wanted to differentiate their units from the typical WW2 titles and put it in some sort of a modern setting. With impact of it being closer to home. In the Korean war, the weapons used were similar to WW2 weapons as there was a scale down of all the forces by the allied side.
floted 9 months ago
@gunforsale they used 1989 cuz tensions were at their peak with thatcher in britain(dunno the spelling) and reigan in US especially after afghanistan,while in 1950's or 60's tensions were lower.BTW,Ussr had the military strength to crush NATO and with a little more strength even US but not the economy in 1989
TheErusian 7 months ago
@gunforsale lots of wars are started when one nation is weaker and wants to get stronger. wars unite ones nation and boosts production for the war effort. it pretty much makes everyone forget that there where any economical problems. its like a new start. its what the Germans did in world war 2 and many other nations too.
shelory 7 months ago
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marvinhesper 2 years ago
the WiC:Soviet Assault is better if they release it 1st the the 1st WiC..it happen 1st before the WiC:
it's like the movie that the wolvirine origin and the underworld 3 was last bin shown before the 1st and 2nd x-men and underworld
Greatnemo 2 years ago
What I hate about this game is how they show the Soviet Union basically just one day decide to attack everyone for no reason.
Unit987654321 2 years ago 6
like germany did in world war 2 lol
stormgx 2 years ago 12
hah :)
Shadowsoldier07 2 years ago
@stormgx The Soviets were having a steak out and thought, "Hey, do you like that West Germany there?"
"Sure."
"Hey!!! Wanna go invade it?'
"Sure."
"Oh, can I have that last biscuit?"
"Sure."
CookiesAndGuns95 1 year ago
@stormgx they didn't "just one day decide to attack." Sure, Hitler wasn't quite right in the head, but the nazis had a massive plan. They just implemented it Blitzkrieg style :)
elleeott 1 year ago
@stormgx
It's not like Germany needed reliable access to resources, territory, and sovereignty which in their situation could only be achieved by weakening or even occupying their powerful neighbours - all the things Soviet Union had it excess. No, they just were evil warmongering idiots who wanted to take over the world just for the sake of it. Just like the USSR. Right.
Mocsk 3 months ago
@Mocsk nope germany initially wanted to regain all the terrioty theyd lost through the treaty of versaille in ww2
stormgx 3 months ago
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they are pissed because russians got a small penis
34ytrhtrghrf 2 years ago
It wasn't just "one day" they had apparently been preparing for years, listen to what the Russian was saying in the trailer.
GMatsakis 2 years ago
But still, it's all pointless, the Soviet Union randomly attacks.
Unit987654321 2 years ago
Randomly attacks? Their whole ideology was based upon the wet dream of spreading communism all over the world. Since the Soviet Union was about to fall...the soviets decided to go all or nothing.
WaiSech 2 years ago 2
It still seems like a stupid reason.
Unit987654321 2 years ago
@Unit987654321 They had a reason, their own political system was crumbling at the roots during that time, the only way to save it is to start a war. It makes perfect sense, how else would the USSR survive. They would be able to conquer much land and natural recourses from adjacent countries to help sustain their war effort. Even if they were to "loose" the war, they still wouldn't be vanquished. Between USSR and NATO it would be a draw, there would be no change in borders, just young lives.
Darkestsides 1 year ago
@Darkestsides There would only be really 2 outcomes, Nuclear holocaust, or stalemate and I'm more then sure neither of the countries would be beating back to the point they would use nuclear weapons. It would be a war of attrition, just wearing down each others logistics until there is nothing left on either side, this is also why this war never happened, the leaders knew that it would be WW1 all over again, millions of lives lost, not even a rock gained.
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YZureikat 2 years ago
Love the soldiers running into battle out in the snow.
HonourWithDeath 2 years ago
even in dreams what strategy could work always poped-up... fucking addicting game.
axeflanker 2 years ago
this is by far the best strategy game out there.
Fredfredbug4 2 years ago 13
best strategy game i ever played....the most awarded strategy game and the best current strategy game....!!!
muiemanelesimanelist 2 years ago 2
i love the first song, the chorus.
what is his name?
rammsteinanders 2 years ago
Ya I want to know too xD.The music is beutifull
ImperialGuard9001 2 years ago
how many world in conflicts are there?
balkis4lyf 2 years ago
1, this is the expansion of the first. adds soviet campaign into the american campaign
stormgx 2 years ago
They really should've been together from the get go.
Savior20061 2 years ago
yee cos they did mess up the patching at first
stormgx 2 years ago
=O !!!
Teh graphics r amazing!
Gogoguru2 2 years ago
1 of the best strtgy game i ever played
nightstalker123321 2 years ago
sweeeeeeet
rotateleft 2 years ago
the graphics are actually a lot better in game =]
stormgx 2 years ago
i love how you can get the camera into certain anles you could nevr get i any other strategy games
rotateleft 2 years ago 8
yeah its like that with company of heroes too i love that!
puppyjaj 2 years ago