Making The Shining- Documentary and Interviews (part 3 of 4)

[thelatestttplague]

"...hunks of a hair" *holds up ONE strand of hair that she gave him* Kubrick is such a smartass. haha

[gagamonster99]

what was the song they were playing in the preperation for the 1920s scene??

[grimreefer1]

lol at 1:15, bet shes just done a big line of coke, can see her eyes start rolling a bit after

[davv1975]

they're referring to smelling salts because of her fainting all the time, not cocaine.

[528491Inception]

this is the kind of 'making of' i love to see

[richy12377]

@528491Inception 100% aggre, its brilliant.

[taylortots12]

Im sorry, but this woman must have been a nightmare to work with. I feel like after watching all these behind the scenes things that she wants all the benefits of being an actor, but doesnt want to put in the work. Yeah the director is mean to her, but thats hollywood and hes not there to babysit someone sick or someone sad about an ex boyfriend. A billion other actresses were probably willing to taker her place.

[LukaRaPtoR]

Kubrick speaks to Shelley like a dick

[cruzman3608]

This is fascinating. I love to hear them discussing the lines and the parts, and Stanley is just a genius.

[TheHedgehogluva]

r any of these people dead?

[bzurvalec]

@TheHedgehogluva Off the top of my head, Stanley Kubrick has been dead for over a decade now.

[PianoMan53100]

Danny's so cute! 8D

[odpunk23]

EPIC use of the Rite of Spring @ 2:38 , best piece of music ever!!!!!!! One of the most epic movies ever, too.

[TIPTON340]

Danny Lloyd seemed to be a very intellectual kid. Very mature for 7-8 years of age.

[ritter89]

Can't believe how many people think that Duvall was doing coke when Kubrick was telling her 'it's not good for you'. First of all, he was clearly referring to "sympathy" not being good for her, not coke. Secondly, actors don't just sit around blowing coke on the set of a high budget film like this (even during the late 70s) and finally, the tissues were to clear away fake tears and moisture applied to her face during the scenes where she's crying, not to clear away leftover cocaine. .

[sfchris]

Delbert Grady Sighting at 8:32 !

[SuperFakeandGay]

She seems like such a pain in the ass to work with...

[NielDaRebelde]

@SuperFakeandGay In case you didn't watch the whole thing,Shelley was purposely being mistreated by Kubrick to make her performance more believable.Kubrick was a different director to Shelley,he was mean to her.On top of that,Shelley just got out of a relationship,and she was very ill during this time.All of that stress and pain is what you see in the movie,that's why her expressions look so genuine.

[SuperFakeandGay]

@NielDaRebelde Ahh thanks for the insight, very interesting.

[Michifulify]

It's so funny to see that they actually had a radio on the set. I mean these days you just put the music on afterwards.

And those who say that Kubrick was "mean" to Shelley DuVall... He pushed his actors to the limits! He did that in pretty much every movie he ever made. And besides he has to be demanding because it's his JOB! I don't think Steven Spielberg (or anyone else) just let the actors run around doing exactly what they want either.

[brunobliss]

takes balls to tell jack nicholson that he should do less of this and more of that cuz he's acting LOOKS FAKE! Awesome Director

[saicpb]

He's telling Shelley that she looks fake not Jack.... Jack never looks fake cos he always plays similar characters.

[Stiny114]

@brunobliss I think he was telling that to Shelly. She was jumping on every word Jack said.

[fyfytj]

I heard that Stanley Kubrick was mean to Shelley Duvall during the making of this movie.

[xxxIzekeIxxx]

shes hot

[NinerPoolGirl]

This movie is so brilliant, it STILL creeps me out.. 29 years later..Even this orchestra music gives me the chills.

[Blackmamba2809]

danny is so cute ^^, and jack nicholson... i love this actor !! he is fantastic, one of the best i think.

[tall32guy]

Shelley's hysterical sound of her voice and her constant crying turned me off of her characted. It was only the times when she wasn't, that I didn't mind her performance.

[goodsoninc]

It is widely known how Stanley on set was fucking perfectionist

[CerebralTantrum]

Wtf!!! @7:07!! I had the same tape recorder back in the early 80s!!! :-)

[Lauren4077th]

Why did SK tell the extras not to nod their heads? Was it just so it would look more natural, or for a technical reason?

[fuxup21]

this man is a genius, the best director of all times

[Edhallick]

Come on Shelly, time to do 5000 more takes.

[harhainen]

"are you out of your fucking mind" that was hilarious! :)

[johnbourbon]

it would be such fun to be an extra in the dinner scene

[BUDDY6414724297]

This is a great film! It reminds me of SILENT RUNNING. A few great actors trapped in large spaces as they lose thier minds.

[dawnrun911]

Stanley Kubrick made Shelley Duvall do 127 takes of the "baseball bat" scene before he had one he was happy with. They really didn't get along with each other by all accounts.

[BLT1940]

At 1:08, is he referring to cocaine?

[KenshiRyden]

Looks like they could be... Witness her rubbing her nose

[tall32guy]

I think she was just pickin her nose with the Kleenex. lol

[johnbourbon]

"sympathy" could be coke code!

[adia1270]

They didn't give Shelly Duvall enough credit for this movie.

[joethehobo11]

Wow at 2:37 Kubrick plays Stravinsky's Rite of Spring during the filming of the maze chase. My favourite director influenced by my favourite composer.

[tinotrivino]

woaow, i just saw the whole docu and i must say in the line where kubrick speaks with the actress i really sympathise withthim cause in my movies "shortmovies" i had the same problems with the actress, i told here some lines really doesnt sound convinced and she just told me its because the line in the script was bad... :-p my ass.. lol :D

i really LOVE making offsssssssss

[apsbox]

I think the movie is a master piece, the performance of everyone it's outstanding that i'm glad to see this interviews because Danny does talk in real life and Nicholson isn't insane XD, sorry but they really conviced with their roles XD.

[seonfox]

If you think this movie is a masterpiece, you obviously haven't read the book. Kubrick = fail.

[apsbox]

Obviously i didn't read the book, and you know why?, because i hate reading stories, romance, novels, science fiction, etc, i only read science/knowledge books.

I don't care if the book's better, i loved the movie and is my favorite horror film wether you like it or not ;) :D \o/

[zachflame123]

everyone talks about how ugly that actress is but she's really sexy in a quirky way

[bakanbi]

Shelley was spoiled..i partly blame Altman for that. He let her do whatever she wanted. I'm glad Kubrick kicked her ass around. She needed it.

[Ambersparkle]

Shelley Duvall is beautiful..

[jays2474]

I think Shelly Duvall is an incredible actress.Simply look at this role she played ,and now skip to a couple years later when She did Popeye.She is a very talented actress.Dramatic,and funny ya know.Looks wise She does'nt fit the Hollywood stereotype.She has real talent.She does'nt get roles because of large breasts or a great Body.She is TALENTED.We get cheated alot today from hollywood.

[Stef89]

i reckon itd be like working with a 2 year old (shelly duvall)

[restlessr84]

Can someone explain to me how the boom mike doesn't pick up the director's voice as he tells actors to move this way, move that way, stop, look scared, and so forth?

[BadLactose]

Those scenes are non-dialogue scenes. They simply dub 'breathing' sounds and sound effects in post-production.

[restlessr84]

I liked her in this film and, frankly, I think she's a pretty actress.

[CatLives9]

That ballroom song has a creepy quality to it. Fit the film so well.

[BenGordonBITCHSLAP]

where is this from? is it off the dvd extras or something?

[messina31]

yes

[NeoBarockLoki]

I didn't read the book (it must be great), but I'm curious if the difference between the book and the movie is big or not.

[goodtogomofo]

I started reading the book 2 days ago, the film (which I love) is a watered down version of the book.

The characters have more depth, the story is more tragic and for that reason far more emotionally effecting...I am a Jack nicholsen fan, but I must admit that I have enjoyed learning more about this character from what I have read in the book, compared to what I saw in the film.

I dont usually read books, but I would urge anyone who likes this film to get a copy its just far more intense.

[Lagrm100]

The film doesn't follow the book, lots of different stuff, different characters etc.

The film doesn't even end the same way!

[mrman2u2]

Kurisu0, you can feel any way you wish about her, no need to get so defensive. Her "over the Top" performance always reminded me that I was watching an actor, instead of getting lost in the story. By the way, I think there's a reason you haven't seen anyone like her since, as she holds the world record for the most re-takes in a single film.

[frankleonida]

kubrick the best

[mrman2u2]

Shelley's acting was the one glaring flaw in an otherwise brilliant movie.

[kurisu0]

shelley's acting brought a very realistic feel to the movie. haven't seen anyone like her since. don't really know what the fuck you're smoking.

[Artist3303]

Whats that song at the preps for the ballroom scene, the one that is heard first whilst there practicing dancing.

[fiscornioman]

Shelley turns me on, i dont know why

[tsuzukusekai]

no wonder i always think wendy looks a bit coked up in the movie.

[ExplicitBrain]

kubrick seems like a real dick

[Vameon]

I wanna see kubrick at work more!

[tall32guy]

Me too! Unfortunately this is, unless some other as yet unknown films of him making movies show up, the only such documentary film that we'll ever have, since Kubrick died in 1999.

[ishouldplayzelda]

this movie is cool and has alot of stuff but i think that its creepy

[evasanchez1985]

in part one Jack asks her if she is pulling out a bag of salt from her coat and she says yea. Here Kubric tells her it doesnt help when she _____.(1:08) In which she replies yes it does, as she from what it appears cleans out her nose. Umm anyone else catch this? is she "powdering her nose" on set!?

[Impermanence]

Yes it looks like she was using coke. Apparently Kubrick had her repeat scenes sometimes hundreds of times over so it's understandable.

[ATRAIN413]

yeah she definitely did coke haha

[manco82]

Man Kubrick was such an asshole to Shelley Duvall!

[yesmrchalkley]

umm no

[bcn533]

You're stupid. She's not even in the picture at that time. She uses a kleenex at around 1:20. That's all.

[Artist3303]

It pains me that I was never there in the 20s to experience a party like that.

[conceptionblues]

the way she is portrayed adds to the uneasiness of the movie.

[tygersflowerz]

Yeah. You don't want to look at ugly people while you're being scared to death.

But seriously, she's very pretty in real life.

[Joe22c]

Yeah she's actually quite cute when her hair is covering her ears and when she's smiling.

[tygersflowerz]

Shelley Duvall's a lot prettier here than in the movie. I didn't like the way she was portrayed in the movie at all. Her hair looked greasy half the time.

[Artist3303]

Mabey it indicates the stress of the proberlams that she faces in the film or the fact that she was going a litle insane as were all of them through out the movie.

[RadicalNotion]

that was the idea dude.

[finalfantasyxiiiwill]

wow. shelley duvall is pretty here!

i thought she'd be ugly like she was in the movie ... but she's not!

[m1sterh0tsauc3]

i wouldnt call duvall was annoying but she did seem like a handfull.

[niceandeasygeorge01]

Jacks agreeable nature compliments Kubricks overbearing genius so well.

[faridjabba]

tha kdi sis great

[fighter79mi]

thanx for posting

[terminaltoy]

I don't find Kubrick humorless and abrasive. As a skilled director (i.e. a human-handler with an artistic vision) he does very well. Probably Duvall was chosen exactly for the neurotic energy she exudes. Kubrick would know how to keep that on the boil for good takes.

[EmperorWilly]

Kubrick remains my favorite director and was unquestionably a genius, but he comes across as humorless and abrasive throughout the documentary. There are two sides to every story, though. Duvall could've been annoying from Day One, leading to Kubrick's understandable frustration with her, OR she might've started out fine, and Kubrick's demanding nature might've put her on edge and frayed her nerves.

[whollywithoutmerritt]

shelley talks like a thesaurus

[Shipgate]

Everyone seems to say Shelly is annoying but when you think about it, it really would be a very stressful role to play. Cause the movie itself is grueling (yet enjoyable) to watch; imagine being on the set for so long and having to keep that intensity going for so long. And so I think she just copes with the stress in her own way. And I don't think she loves attention as much as Jack Nicholson clearly does.

[fatchan]

She says herself "I love attention" ...but I can't imagine with Kubrick. Nearly all the people who have acted in his films say how his constant hunger for takes was infuriating. If Shelly's health was bad it would have affected her more.

[twmallday]

he tells the extras not to nod their heads but some of them clearly do..

[welshWIzARDDd]

can't beat a bit of top gear can ya? ive made a spoof if lee evans was in the shining!. if u like this you might like my video

[niceandeasygeorge01]

"lines won't make that much of a difference if you've got the right attitude." amen brother

[robogil]

Great post, pdt113

[Tobyjenn]

Kubrick and Nicholson seem to get on well enough. But he hates Duvall, who was the casting director? Was it Kubrick?

[pookie67]

"hunks of hair...ok. Ok shelly come on lets go ((clap clap)) come on shelly!

[teoweiyong]

I think Kubrick was working her to get her agitated and hurt which would fuel her performance in this scene where she desperately tries to escape.

[maximiliaan1995]

shelly is suthe a biths

[MissLeigh78]

Please learn english.

[spiggington]

kubrick really appears to dislike shelley...

[brianjc67]

Love this documentary, one of my favourite movies. The part where Nicholson is going through lines and Kubrick is typing at the same table.. wow. Its like a figment of my imagination made flesh.

[Byatt6]

I thought Danny Lloyd was brilliant in his interview. "You think you're so smart?!"

"And yes, I admit, I do."

[RBlovesKOP]

I know Danny is so intelligent and mature for his age back then.

[StanleyKu]

greatest horror ever!

[jorgealbertobaron]

clasica del terror

[aspiringroyal20]

gees shelly seems sooo annoyning

[althebadmadman]

Just thinking the same thing! Whing whinge whinge! The director seems kinda peeved at her in the 2 I've watched so far

[Mechanized0]

Stanley Kubrick was intentionally attempting to antagonize her in order to bring about the performance from her he desired. The greater frustration she experienced at hands of Kubrick the more this appeared within her acting performance within the film.

[Iamtheice]

aww i think shelleys awsome at acting...

[angelobonsignore]

I wonder if they shot on 35mm?

[pdt113]

22 million

[deekeeley83]

Dollars? or peanuts?

[utubesucks2003]

I never understand how the money trickles down like that, on the set it looks like a more intimate, smaller crew and the barest of expenses, the 16 hour days probably rose crew rates but I still don't see how it's so much...Unless you figured in Nicholson's rate.

[Trademarc1977]

I heard the budget was around 10 million. Still a lot of dough for a late seventies production. The crew was relatively smal, yes, but everything had to be built from scratch - the hotel was a set, costumes had to be made for a large number of extra's, Nicholson took home a cool million, Kubrick didn't exactly work for free either and the movie rights for King's book were pretty expensive as well.

[lonewolferton]

does anybody have an idea of what the cost to make this was?

[pfalconer]

And she sounds like Mickey Mouse.

[pfalconer]

You can tell why Shelley Duvall never got a hell of a lot of big parts in her career - she seems like a pain in the arse to work with...

[s4mth16ngstr24nge]

i love how danny lloyd was a very real child actor who like henry thomas +drew barrymore in e.t. -knew how to be a kid - unlike most of today's child actors, dakota fanning, haley joe, malcolm in the migraine etc- today's kid actors are too self-consciously precocious. the kids in charlie and the chocolate factory were real, too - the kid in soul food, the kid in jerry macguire. but most child actors today suck. i guess being yourself is a talent actors must have in order to be good

[s4mth16ngstr24nge]

i always liked that the shining has a small central cast -its got a kind of chamber drama feel like most of reservoir dogs- but most of the actors here play ghosts. i never thought of it that way.

[DVincentW]

Daaahhnnnyyy!

[sacrificaltotem]

kubrick was pretty hard on her

[tall32guy]

It's just beautimous that Vivian got Shelley pickin her damn nose. LOL I bet Shelley was forever grateful for that. LOL

[MegaFreakX48]

awesome

[vittoriostoraro]

Vivian Kubrick is Kubrick's DAUGHTER, not wife. Vivian was born 8/5/1960, so she was about 18 when she shot this.

[anhacus]

This is fantastic. I enjoyed this immensely. Thanks.