According to page 294 of Obama's Audacity of Hope, "Like most analysts, I assumed that Saddam had chemical and biological weapons and coveted nuclear arms."
During a July 2004 interview on Meet the Press when asked how he would have voted on the Iraq resolution, Obama answered "I don't know...There's not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush's position at this stage."
yes, hillary supported the war back then, but what about obama? people say he was against it from the beginning, but hellooooo...he wasnt even in office then. btw, he voted to support funds towards the troops. does that say anything ?
It will be nice to have an intelligent president again who can think on her feet. People, last time we voted for the "C" student. Maybe this time we can vote for the "A" student. Go Hillary. On another note, I want to see a women president in my lifetime. If not her it won't happen in my lifetime. I'm 40.
So, in other words, these Democrats are against the continuing of THIS war but they have absolutely no problem with preemptive invasion, empire building, installing puppet regimes and so forth. When you are "anti-war" and support fools like Obama & Clinton you are in dire need of doing more research. American empire building has been supported by both parties for the last 100 years. Obama & Clinton both don't intend to change that overall policy, believe me.
Hillary has no credibility! As a Canadian, I am disgusted by her. She supported Bush all the way and attacked Canada for not joining in Iraq. Our government told us from the start that Bush's claims of WMD's and links to terrorists were a joke. We are fighting in Afghanistan, but, thank God, are not involved in the Iraq mess. Hillary is Bush Lite.
hey dumbass are you a fuckin idiot? Bush responsible for claims of WMD's and the hostility towards Iraq? try the clinton administration back in '98, Jesus christ your a fucking liberal dumbass, get your head out of your spoon fed msnbc ass and educate yourself. Everyone here is the indisputable truth on who said there was WMD's, before BUSH WAS EVEN FUCKING PRESIDENT, GOD DAMN! watch?v=FCVZlLBchVE&feature=related
She speaks of the Kurds in such a belittling way "They have behaved very well". If she becomes president hopefully she will refine the way she speaks about other cultures or that could be some serious foreign relation issues.
what bullshit! She helped start this war when it was popular. I love the "KIrds have behaved well line." Either you didn't have the guts to stand up to our dictator in chief in the beggining or you were part of the problem. Do America a favor and let someone who gives a rat's ass about us lead us into our dim future.
I understand why people are critical of her original vote for the IUMF.
But this is now five years later, and if she's what it will take to get the US out of Iraq, then let's get out of Iraq. I really dont see her stance as "deception" whatsoever. And as her remarks from yesterday show, permanent forces or bases are %100 out of the question.
Dogersam: Noone has ever "won" an invasion/occupation such as this. Not ever in history. This isn't a "winnable" thing.
That woman sure knows how to deceive people. I mean, isn't she also part of the reason why the troops are in Iraq in first place?! now she's running for president she's crawling back on her decision. Damn, what a future to be president my ass!!
As much as it's not my preference whatsoever, I see our first female president coming upon us very soon.
She has been eloquent, engaging, simple but detailed, and very humbling in the last year. Really, she's now risen to a new level, and is going to be an extremely formidable force for POTUS.
Again, not my choice at all, but extremely hard to deny.
i see it happening too!...Obama would be a better choice by far...but as with any politician..."They're not to be trusted!" but Clinton is a douchebag just like her Billyboy! ~DEADMAN~
Hillary has some good points. It's hard to get over her vote allowing Bush to handle the war in Iraq. She should have known he would blow it and it wasn't needed at all to begin with. But she has some good points now.
"The kurds have behaved very well in this"... Is she talking about kindergarten ?
Obama just sounds more professional, Sorry hillary.
mehdianim 3 years ago
I love the clintons....
kurdatheist 3 years ago
Buddy... If all of Iraqis behaved like the Kurds, 4000 American soldiers would not have died...
kurdatheist 3 years ago
My comment was about Hillary talking down to the people...
mehdianim 3 years ago
According to page 294 of Obama's Audacity of Hope, "Like most analysts, I assumed that Saddam had chemical and biological weapons and coveted nuclear arms."
During a July 2004 interview on Meet the Press when asked how he would have voted on the Iraq resolution, Obama answered "I don't know...There's not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush's position at this stage."
ChiGuy1978 3 years ago
yes, hillary supported the war back then, but what about obama? people say he was against it from the beginning, but hellooooo...he wasnt even in office then. btw, he voted to support funds towards the troops. does that say anything ?
pooh629 3 years ago
It will be nice to have an intelligent president again who can think on her feet. People, last time we voted for the "C" student. Maybe this time we can vote for the "A" student. Go Hillary. On another note, I want to see a women president in my lifetime. If not her it won't happen in my lifetime. I'm 40.
BIBIchgo 4 years ago
get out of places where you do not belong to snob
GamlGandalf 4 years ago
So, in other words, these Democrats are against the continuing of THIS war but they have absolutely no problem with preemptive invasion, empire building, installing puppet regimes and so forth. When you are "anti-war" and support fools like Obama & Clinton you are in dire need of doing more research. American empire building has been supported by both parties for the last 100 years. Obama & Clinton both don't intend to change that overall policy, believe me.
Revere1776 4 years ago
Germany for obama! I hate clinton. If she wins the democratic elections, i hope that Mccain will win. Obama MUST become the president.
Obama 08
Exotimmie 4 years ago
Obama '08
Xiany1 4 years ago
Hillary has no credibility! As a Canadian, I am disgusted by her. She supported Bush all the way and attacked Canada for not joining in Iraq. Our government told us from the start that Bush's claims of WMD's and links to terrorists were a joke. We are fighting in Afghanistan, but, thank God, are not involved in the Iraq mess. Hillary is Bush Lite.
bill777jr 4 years ago 3
As an american, I agree whole heartedly with you.
Xiany1 4 years ago
hey dumbass are you a fuckin idiot? Bush responsible for claims of WMD's and the hostility towards Iraq? try the clinton administration back in '98, Jesus christ your a fucking liberal dumbass, get your head out of your spoon fed msnbc ass and educate yourself. Everyone here is the indisputable truth on who said there was WMD's, before BUSH WAS EVEN FUCKING PRESIDENT, GOD DAMN! watch?v=FCVZlLBchVE&feature=related
geeksquadgreg 4 years ago
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TheFunkyModerate 4 years ago
She speaks of the Kurds in such a belittling way "They have behaved very well". If she becomes president hopefully she will refine the way she speaks about other cultures or that could be some serious foreign relation issues.
04l09l1965 4 years ago
i know. the Republicans are SO much more respectful toward the Kurds. right.
todnyc 4 years ago
what bullshit! She helped start this war when it was popular. I love the "KIrds have behaved well line." Either you didn't have the guts to stand up to our dictator in chief in the beggining or you were part of the problem. Do America a favor and let someone who gives a rat's ass about us lead us into our dim future.
madmiguelh2o 4 years ago 3
Hillary was on the Board of Bechtel when they were selling WMD's to Iraq.
Don't be fooled.
neothomist1275 4 years ago
i know. the Republicans are SO much more respectful toward the Kurds. right.
todnyc 4 years ago
What are you doing Hillary? Aren't you engaging in hypotheticals? Oh, right. I forgot. You're a fucking idiot.
OBAMA 08!!
derekarmstrong 4 years ago
Atleast she has a mind to change!
oddycee 4 years ago
O yeah Dear Hillary. You approved of this war. Hellllllllo?? Short Mem?
Ashtyian 4 years ago 5
Fred Thompson in 2008!!
oldschoolredneck 4 years ago
It's so nice to think about having a knowledgeable, seasoned, articulate president again. I'm voting Hillary, that's for sure.
colonelmatterson 4 years ago
She kinda like a republican..
michiganbm11 4 years ago 3
Yea I'm not sure about Ron either, He has good points but he said he wanted to eliminate health care, not expand it.
If it's not Ron i would go for either Hilary or Obama they are the most qualified.
Yes i agree it should be Paper.
TheTruthxx 4 years ago
the government don't read this.
but we are the ones who vote. We have the decision.
Ron Paul 2008. For a better change
TheTruthxx 4 years ago
watching this forum... some hate hillary, some like...gotta love this country.
Evanrules89 4 years ago
that is the dumbest idea ever! pull out troops right now? we cant do or else the iraqi government will cave in. we cant pull out right away!
metalhobbit3 4 years ago
Don't worry, she changed her mind... as all politicians use to do!
gab1234 4 years ago
I understand why people are critical of her original vote for the IUMF.
But this is now five years later, and if she's what it will take to get the US out of Iraq, then let's get out of Iraq. I really dont see her stance as "deception" whatsoever. And as her remarks from yesterday show, permanent forces or bases are %100 out of the question.
Dogersam: Noone has ever "won" an invasion/occupation such as this. Not ever in history. This isn't a "winnable" thing.
volumptuous 4 years ago
That woman sure knows how to deceive people. I mean, isn't she also part of the reason why the troops are in Iraq in first place?! now she's running for president she's crawling back on her decision. Damn, what a future to be president my ass!!
dragonbirde 4 years ago
She's an idiot- all the things she says are great- but you have to WIN the war first, and that takes troops.
DodgerSam 4 years ago
As much as it's not my preference whatsoever, I see our first female president coming upon us very soon.
She has been eloquent, engaging, simple but detailed, and very humbling in the last year. Really, she's now risen to a new level, and is going to be an extremely formidable force for POTUS.
Again, not my choice at all, but extremely hard to deny.
volumptuous 4 years ago
i see it happening too!...Obama would be a better choice by far...but as with any politician..."They're not to be trusted!" but Clinton is a douchebag just like her Billyboy! ~DEADMAN~
DEADMANzRUNNING 4 years ago
Hillary has some good points. It's hard to get over her vote allowing Bush to handle the war in Iraq. She should have known he would blow it and it wasn't needed at all to begin with. But she has some good points now.
jimbojim68 4 years ago
Ron Paul rocks.
bbruhwiler8 4 years ago