If a machine is made in Italy, but doesn't have wheels, stay away from it. If it has wheels, tell everyone you like it's styling and character and still stay away from it.
Die Andrea Doria war wohl das größte und schnellste Schiff unter Italienischer Flagge. Von Bildern und Videos her muss es ein sehr schönes Schiff gewesen sein. Immer ein bißchen Erinnerung an die Titanic, wenn ich diesen Namen höre. Hier mussten auch leider 46 Menschen Ihr Leben lassen.
I hate to admit that I am old enough to remember this. What was remarkable was the very small loss of life. The Stockholm had an "icebreaker" bow which minimized her damage, but ripped the Andrea Doria wide open.
They later found (alive!) a passenger from the Doria trapped in what was left of the bow of the Stockholm!!
OK, I won't say I've got perfect recall and you may be completely right. But I distinctly remember the media at the time stressing "icebreaker bow". I suspect you are right and the media then was about as accurate as they are now; not very.
@TheSFCRetired, okay. I was just looking at the actual shape of the bow from videos and pictures and could find any typical icebreaker features from its shape. Perhaps the media referred to the ice strengthening, which reduced the amount of absorbed energy because the bow didn't crumble that much?
You're so right about the accuracy of media in these days. They often get even the simpliest things wrong...
believe it or not, the ship Stokcholm, who crashed with Andrea Doria in 1956 is still in service as ms Athena, completely rebuild and owned by classic international cruises, who also has ms Arion, the former yugoslav cruiser, ms Funchal-a legendary ocean liner and many more
I love how classic news reels of the 30's, 40's and 50's used dramatic music. If they made a news report with such music today, it just wouldn't work. In those earlier days of big news reports, seems like the music made it more like a scene from a movie and enhanced the significance of the event.
This is an excerpt from a July 1956 Universal-International theatrical newsreel [narrated by Ed Herlihy], documenting the sinking of the Andrea Doria (after colliding with the MS Stockholm) on July 25, 1956.
the Stockholm hit the Andrea Doria in the side i think, hense the listing to one side. But the Stockholm lost most of its bow, but manged to sail back to New York. The Andrea Doria stayed on one side for about 7-12 hours. which gave rescuers enough time to get all the people off the ship. then, it just sank. not that tragic, except for the loss of a beautiful ship. :(
you'd be amazed how hard it is to maneuvre ships this size. they don't stop on a dime or turn like some car. besides both the captains of the two ships misunderstood what the other was about to do. who was to blame? the trial pointed to the captain of the Andrea Doria
@McLarenMercedes: that is not true: the trial ended before judgement. the maritime laws grant shipowners a reduced liability on damages on carried goods and passengers provided due diligenge.
Trial was about to prove both ships were going too fast in the fog so companies agreed to retire the claim. Moreover swedish company was an important customer of shipyards branch of Italian Line.
US navy research found truth years later: swedish officer wrongly read the radar and caused the disaster.
@judgeroybeen If both ships are going at least 20-21 knots if they cant portround enough to get the engine full to stern they can hit each other even in open sea to put a ship for faword full to stop takes miles they probubly did not see the other ship in time to turn starberd of port so thet hit head on in the Andria Dori's case she was foward full to starberd the Sweaden Stockhome was Faword full the stockhome hit first breaching compartments one and two but breaching her first she survived
I favorited titanic first but then whenever I search something I learn about a new tragedy, lol, so then I found out about Lusitania and my grandfather was alive during the andrea doria incident so he taught me about that, and my grandmothers friend was a survivor of the titanic so I know alot of disasters so TITANIC and LUSITANIA are my two favorites, but if I had to choose one I would choose TITANIC.
there was dense fog on they were sailing, and they didn,t see each other. Then the Andrea doria turned into the path of the stockholm. It wasn't the Stockholms fault. and besides, only 45 ppl died.
US navy research found the TRUTH years later: ships were in a dense fog, going on opposite direction on parallel course, Stockholm on the right of Doria (she was in recommended route, Stockholm not). The distance between ships should have been 1 mile at the nearest point.
Doria slightly modified her course on the left in order to increase minimum distance, while swedish officer on the deck wrongly read radar and suddenly turn right crossing Doria course...BOOM !
It collided with the HMS Hawke in 1911 and had to go back to H&W in Belfast for repairs which delayed work on the Titanic, thus pushing back its launch & maiden voyage by almost a month, changing history all by itself.
Oh Gallop 123456789 why don't you get your crying towel. BABY!! "OH I cant take life anymore"!! MOMMY there picking on me again! Go dive for the ship Asshole.
Gallop1234-4321 Why dont you just calm down for a min. Ultradumbass and I have decided. Why don't you up the prozac a little and you wont be full of anger?. P.S. Go fuck your self.
lol i agree with ponycar98. would you rather people sit there crying all their lives like you do? or try to make a joke to get off the negative subjects. lol he is right you do love your 5 minutes of fame. except for me when you tried having 2 weeks of endless annoying comments and tried samming my threads.
well I am not such a asswhole as u are Ultradumbass. You try to make everyone;s life on Youtube a living hell. Who do you think you are you are no better than anyone on Youtube. You should get a life!
the fact ponycar98 agrees eith me means i must be doing something right... and the fact you got like 5 accounts and acted as if i would not figure out who you are prooves how dumb you are. peace!
Who do you think you are? Who gives you any right to say I am wrong just becauser i know more things about this subject. You are really showing ur colors and you should just leave me the fuck alone!
oh i could... but i choose not to. the fact everyone seems to agree with me, i don't know where a dumb idiot like you thinks she is knowing the subject better than me. and i won't leave you alone since you tried spamming my threads and used like 5 patheitc accounts and was obvious who it was. so shut the hell up and close your account. KAPISH?
I only hsve ever had one account dumb shit. I never have had any other account so I don;t know what you were think, but you were wrong. And you know what alot of people are disagreeing with what you have to say as well. Why don't leave me the fuck alone and everyone else. And also do us a favor and close your account since no one like you.
You can think anything you want,but I know that I never changed my account. So maybe you are just confused or something because I never did change it. And I think I would know if I changed 5 accoutns which I did not. Also there are other dumb people full of shit with the same profile as you!
you're making the problem worse right there. "i could but i chose not to" that is just childish. maybe this gallop person knows more than you maybe he/she doesn't but just throwing petty insults does nothing. if he/she is a problem than leave he/she alone
Wow! You just don't get it do you? Look when someone makes a comment on here they don't expect to be harassed by you! Alot of people on youtube think you are being a jerk by the way you are some rude to people for no apparent reason! Also i BET you have like 4 different accounts because no one in there right mind of though would want to be friends with you! Get a life!
it be impossible for me to have more than one account, because my computer has some strict ip, to make it harder for random hackers and intruders to come in, so it will only allow me to make one of everything including only 1 msn account.
the andrea doria was holding 1,200 passengers and 500 crews. when she hit, 53 people are killed on andrea doria and 5 on the stockhom. and only one man died from drowning on the doria and that was because his family died on a wreck decades earlier and wanted to persih the way they did.
lol i don't care if you made a video. if i did a movie saying aliens are invading washington am i suppose to expect people to believe that. wow you are a waste of time faggot.
NOW WAIT JUST A MINUTE! I WILL END THIS, CAUSE IT JUST SO HAPPENS ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG!
The Andrea Doria had 1,706 passengers and crew on board the moment she was hit by the Stockholm. 51 people were killed, 46 on the Andrea Doria, and 5 on the Stockholm. And I am actually right because I have read at least 2 books that have these exact statistics.
just 2? want to know how many I have read? let me tell you. oh wait no I think i shouldn't cause counting to two is the biggest accomplishment you'll ever make.
hahaha you think you are correct cause 2 sources say so? hahahahahahaha you must be dumb to take a book word by word. titanic numbers also have several different numbers that give different accounts. some say 1495, others 1500, others 1506, some 1513 and some even go to 1565 and 1586.
NOW Im gonna end it. If it will keep you quiet, this is what Im gonna say: All rght fine, Im wrong, youre right, I "revied" the arguement, BUT ITS YOURE FALUT FOR EVEN STARTING IT! So there. Dont bother replying. As of now, this is OVER!
Old comments......o.o
ChuckTestas 3 weeks ago
Whoa! My grandfather was on that ship on the journey before that one where it sunk! It really makes you stop and think.
Ferraridude84 2 months ago
Bone up on the details, it was 1956
montygue1954 6 months ago
If a machine is made in Italy, but doesn't have wheels, stay away from it. If it has wheels, tell everyone you like it's styling and character and still stay away from it.
SubjectiveChannel 6 months ago 2
@SubjectiveChannel
....and you win World Assholes Championship!!..Gooooo
exnemocpt 5 months ago
This might be the only ocean liner diaster caught on TV! it's cool
floridaboyz1231 7 months ago
Italian plastic vs swedish steel....Gues who wins??
Afghanen 9 months ago
@Afghanen
your mommy's burka ?
EutuveX 7 months ago
@EutuveX
chill out greaseball and eat ur moms cunt.
Afghanen 6 months ago
@Afghanen
my mom is dead, can I eat your daughter's cherry ?
EutuveX 6 months ago
@Afghanen prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
TheReni87 5 months ago
stockholm wins --omg lol--stockolms a tough hombre lol
rollingstopp 9 months ago
ya i just pressed the 1911 button and watched this to happy music...some vids should not have that buttton.
brian4480 10 months ago
@brian4480 Man this comment won't mean anything come tomorrow, but everyone should do this today...
sonicepochguy 10 months ago
My great aunt(mothers side) was on this ship. I remember her telling the story.
hotdog2020 11 months ago
Die Andrea Doria war wohl das größte und schnellste Schiff unter Italienischer Flagge. Von Bildern und Videos her muss es ein sehr schönes Schiff gewesen sein. Immer ein bißchen Erinnerung an die Titanic, wenn ich diesen Namen höre. Hier mussten auch leider 46 Menschen Ihr Leben lassen.
Schmusebaer1971 1 year ago
Why so short? I'd love to see the whole thing.
ottoelperro 1 year ago
"ALL ABOARD THE FAIL BOAT"
snowourder 1 year ago 2
The S.S stockholm is still in operation
sniperman003 1 year ago
I hate to admit that I am old enough to remember this. What was remarkable was the very small loss of life. The Stockholm had an "icebreaker" bow which minimized her damage, but ripped the Andrea Doria wide open.
They later found (alive!) a passenger from the Doria trapped in what was left of the bow of the Stockholm!!
TheSFCRetired 1 year ago
@TheSFCRetired, icebreaker bow? Doesn't look like one to me. Ice-strengthened perhaps, but not icebreaker.
tupsumato 1 year ago
@tupsumato
OK, I won't say I've got perfect recall and you may be completely right. But I distinctly remember the media at the time stressing "icebreaker bow". I suspect you are right and the media then was about as accurate as they are now; not very.
TheSFCRetired 1 year ago
@TheSFCRetired, okay. I was just looking at the actual shape of the bow from videos and pictures and could find any typical icebreaker features from its shape. Perhaps the media referred to the ice strengthening, which reduced the amount of absorbed energy because the bow didn't crumble that much?
You're so right about the accuracy of media in these days. They often get even the simpliest things wrong...
tupsumato 1 year ago
@TheSFCRetired thats fucked up....
quingod22 1 year ago
@quingod22
What is? That there wasn't a greater loss of life? I don't quite understand what you are talking about.
TheSFCRetired 1 year ago
believe it or not, the ship Stokcholm, who crashed with Andrea Doria in 1956 is still in service as ms Athena, completely rebuild and owned by classic international cruises, who also has ms Arion, the former yugoslav cruiser, ms Funchal-a legendary ocean liner and many more
kevoreka 1 year ago
I love how classic news reels of the 30's, 40's and 50's used dramatic music. If they made a news report with such music today, it just wouldn't work. In those earlier days of big news reports, seems like the music made it more like a scene from a movie and enhanced the significance of the event.
AmericanEvita 1 year ago 3
you can see a ufo at 0;08
guyjojay 1 year ago
@guyjojay lol i saw it, but most likely a boat
Sims3101lover 1 year ago
@guyjojay that would be called another ship
RaveApe 1 year ago
@RaveApe how would a ship be going that fast
ItsTimothy 1 year ago
This is an excerpt from a July 1956 Universal-International theatrical newsreel [narrated by Ed Herlihy], documenting the sinking of the Andrea Doria (after colliding with the MS Stockholm) on July 25, 1956.
fromthesidelines 1 year ago
the Stockholm hit the Andrea Doria in the side i think, hense the listing to one side. But the Stockholm lost most of its bow, but manged to sail back to New York. The Andrea Doria stayed on one side for about 7-12 hours. which gave rescuers enough time to get all the people off the ship. then, it just sank. not that tragic, except for the loss of a beautiful ship. :(
xjohn1980x 2 years ago 2
@xjohn1980x, 46 passengers of the Andrea Doria and five crew members of the Stockholm died in the collision, so it wasn't without tragedy.
tupsumato 1 year ago
Not "that tragic" ... are you a psycho? How would you like to have been in the cabins that were struck? I think you would have called that tragic!!!
Gaygarious 1 year ago
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are those toys?
TWILIGHT275 2 years ago
Kinda funny.The ocean is soooo big and yet they still have head on crashes?!
judgeroybeen 2 years ago 29
@judgeroybeen
you'd be amazed how hard it is to maneuvre ships this size. they don't stop on a dime or turn like some car. besides both the captains of the two ships misunderstood what the other was about to do. who was to blame? the trial pointed to the captain of the Andrea Doria
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@McLarenMercedes: that is not true: the trial ended before judgement. the maritime laws grant shipowners a reduced liability on damages on carried goods and passengers provided due diligenge.
Trial was about to prove both ships were going too fast in the fog so companies agreed to retire the claim. Moreover swedish company was an important customer of shipyards branch of Italian Line.
US navy research found truth years later: swedish officer wrongly read the radar and caused the disaster.
goodyears73 1 year ago
@judgeroybeen it's called a "foggy night"
Tundraboy05 1 year ago
@judgeroybeen because they are cockeye... lol
SHINTARO249 1 year ago
@judgeroybeen If both ships are going at least 20-21 knots if they cant portround enough to get the engine full to stern they can hit each other even in open sea to put a ship for faword full to stop takes miles they probubly did not see the other ship in time to turn starberd of port so thet hit head on in the Andria Dori's case she was foward full to starberd the Sweaden Stockhome was Faword full the stockhome hit first breaching compartments one and two but breaching her first she survived
HewieOfHG 1 year ago
ANDREA DORIA..
skat74 3 years ago
how did it sink?
legorocks3 3 years ago
I once had a book in my hands about the fateful story of Andrea Doria, I think it was someone who sinked it!! But I never read it, so...!!! :s
illuminazzo 3 years ago
I'm not sure, but I think that Andrea Doria and S.S. Stockholm crashed...
UlstrupDK 2 years ago 10
@UlstrupDK yes
fenderplyr1 11 months ago
collision
privatealeks 2 years ago
Nice video. I like to study maritime disasters.
KinzCove 3 years ago 3
So do I! What's your favorite? Mine's the Titanic Disaster.
Camodric123 3 years ago 2
I favorited titanic first but then whenever I search something I learn about a new tragedy, lol, so then I found out about Lusitania and my grandfather was alive during the andrea doria incident so he taught me about that, and my grandmothers friend was a survivor of the titanic so I know alot of disasters so TITANIC and LUSITANIA are my two favorites, but if I had to choose one I would choose TITANIC.
KinzCove 3 years ago 3
hey mate it sunk in 1956 not 1957 i forgive you if it is a tipeo
chootech2 3 years ago
chootech2 you are correct. I was on the
ocean, Norwegian American line, when
it happened!
fntime 2 years ago
Wow. I thouhgt that funny music and the amusing male voice was all a joke. :l
PiggyFate 3 years ago 2
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Curse the S.S. Stokholm. May disaster follow her for the rest of her days.
Camodric123 3 years ago
there was dense fog on they were sailing, and they didn,t see each other. Then the Andrea doria turned into the path of the stockholm. It wasn't the Stockholms fault. and besides, only 45 ppl died.
tonimtions 3 years ago
It was 51. 46 on the Andrea Doria, and 5 on the Stockholm
frankydman 3 years ago
Ok, thanks. I couldn't remember the numbers.
tonimtions 3 years ago
@tonimtions
TOTALLY FALSE !
US navy research found the TRUTH years later: ships were in a dense fog, going on opposite direction on parallel course, Stockholm on the right of Doria (she was in recommended route, Stockholm not). The distance between ships should have been 1 mile at the nearest point.
Doria slightly modified her course on the left in order to increase minimum distance, while swedish officer on the deck wrongly read radar and suddenly turn right crossing Doria course...BOOM !
goodyears73 1 year ago
I take back what I said about the S.S. Stockholm.
Camodric123 3 years ago
what did you say about it
jmpollyroco 2 years ago
I was mad cause it sank the Andrea Doria.
Camodric123 2 years ago
Strange, Didnt the R.M.S Olympic hit the stockholm in 1912 and nearly sank?
CityscapePictures08 3 years ago
It collided with the HMS Hawke in 1911 and had to go back to H&W in Belfast for repairs which delayed work on the Titanic, thus pushing back its launch & maiden voyage by almost a month, changing history all by itself.
reprobacious 3 years ago
Yeah true. my history aint that good :)
CityscapePictures08 3 years ago
It sank in 1956 not 1957. Collided with the Stockholm on July 25th & sank the next day.
reprobacious 3 years ago
Oh Gallop 123456789 why don't you get your crying towel. BABY!! "OH I cant take life anymore"!! MOMMY there picking on me again! Go dive for the ship Asshole.
ponycar98 4 years ago
Gallop1234-4321 Why dont you just calm down for a min. Ultradumbass and I have decided. Why don't you up the prozac a little and you wont be full of anger?. P.S. Go fuck your self.
ponycar98 4 years ago
Gallop1234, Stop trying to be an Ivy League college professor. We know that you love to have your 5 mins of fame. Jesus were you there?????????
ponycar98 4 years ago
Well all we know now is she is at the bottom of the bath tub. :)
ponycar98 4 years ago
Do you have to be so rude about what happend! This was such a horrible event and many people lost their lifes!
Gallop1234 4 years ago
lol i agree with ponycar98. would you rather people sit there crying all their lives like you do? or try to make a joke to get off the negative subjects. lol he is right you do love your 5 minutes of fame. except for me when you tried having 2 weeks of endless annoying comments and tried samming my threads.
ultradumbass 4 years ago
well I am not such a asswhole as u are Ultradumbass. You try to make everyone;s life on Youtube a living hell. Who do you think you are you are no better than anyone on Youtube. You should get a life!
Gallop1234 4 years ago
the fact ponycar98 agrees eith me means i must be doing something right... and the fact you got like 5 accounts and acted as if i would not figure out who you are prooves how dumb you are. peace!
ultradumbass 4 years ago
Who do you think you are? Who gives you any right to say I am wrong just becauser i know more things about this subject. You are really showing ur colors and you should just leave me the fuck alone!
Gallop1234 4 years ago
oh i could... but i choose not to. the fact everyone seems to agree with me, i don't know where a dumb idiot like you thinks she is knowing the subject better than me. and i won't leave you alone since you tried spamming my threads and used like 5 patheitc accounts and was obvious who it was. so shut the hell up and close your account. KAPISH?
ultradumbass 4 years ago
I only hsve ever had one account dumb shit. I never have had any other account so I don;t know what you were think, but you were wrong. And you know what alot of people are disagreeing with what you have to say as well. Why don't leave me the fuck alone and everyone else. And also do us a favor and close your account since no one like you.
Gallop1234 4 years ago
i know it was you.everytime they wrote something stupid, i checked and had the same dumb profile as you.... so nice try...
ultradumbass 4 years ago
You can think anything you want,but I know that I never changed my account. So maybe you are just confused or something because I never did change it. And I think I would know if I changed 5 accoutns which I did not. Also there are other dumb people full of shit with the same profile as you!
Gallop1234 4 years ago
you're making the problem worse right there. "i could but i chose not to" that is just childish. maybe this gallop person knows more than you maybe he/she doesn't but just throwing petty insults does nothing. if he/she is a problem than leave he/she alone
lala14293 3 years ago
me and her are in no fight, we talk to each other all the time. read the boards properly before throwing pitiful insults like that.
ultradumbass 3 years ago
oh im so sorry i feel like such a dumbass lol. really imeant no harm. my mistake
lala14293 3 years ago
that's ok, nobody is perfect:)
ultradumbass 3 years ago
yeah ur rite
lala14293 3 years ago
Wow! You just don't get it do you? Look when someone makes a comment on here they don't expect to be harassed by you! Alot of people on youtube think you are being a jerk by the way you are some rude to people for no apparent reason! Also i BET you have like 4 different accounts because no one in there right mind of though would want to be friends with you! Get a life!
Gallop1234 3 years ago
it be impossible for me to have more than one account, because my computer has some strict ip, to make it harder for random hackers and intruders to come in, so it will only allow me to make one of everything including only 1 msn account.
ultradumbass 3 years ago
Okay, then why do you keep accusing me of having many different accounts when I clearly told you like 12 times this is my only account!
Gallop1234 3 years ago
because you have told me you were a couple of accoutns before. such as telling me you were that username jackdawsonlover or something like that.
ultradumbass 3 years ago
woah woah woah, I never said I had 2 accounts you accused me of having an account under that username!
Gallop1234 3 years ago
woah woah woah, I never said I had 2 accounts you accused me of having an account under that username!
Gallop1234 3 years ago
you just wrote the same thing twice in a row:P
ultradumbass 3 years ago
so did you! Thats why I wrote it twice!
Gallop1234 3 years ago
i only wrote it once, it got glitched and came out in doubles.
ultradumbass 3 years ago
Yeah right!
Gallop1234 3 years ago
you can debate over that, but i am not going to waste my time proving my point, which absed off this comment, is what you want to see me do.
ultradumbass 3 years ago
look can we just stop fighting this disagreeing has been going on for over 6 months!
Gallop1234 3 years ago
calm down not 6 months. maybe 6 weeks.
ultradumbass 3 years ago
well,
how ever long it has been can we just stop fighting?
Gallop1234 3 years ago
because you have told me you were a couple of accoutns before. such as telling me you were that username jackdawsonlover or something like that.
ultradumbass 3 years ago
andrea sank july 25 1956 not 1957. and it did not have 3,000, it was only carrying 1,700 people at the time of the wreck.
ultradumbass 4 years ago
no it carried 1,300 passengers at the time. And 40 passengers were killed on the Andrea Doria and 6 passengers on the Stockholm.
Gallop1234 4 years ago
the andrea doria was holding 1,200 passengers and 500 crews. when she hit, 53 people are killed on andrea doria and 5 on the stockhom. and only one man died from drowning on the doria and that was because his family died on a wreck decades earlier and wanted to persih the way they did.
ultradumbass 4 years ago
Actually your wrong I did a vdieo on the Andrea Doria! 46 people were killed and 6 where from the Stockholm and 40 from the Andrea Doria!
I would prefer you did not correct me because I have all my facts right!
Gallop1234 4 years ago
lol i don't care if you made a video. if i did a movie saying aliens are invading washington am i suppose to expect people to believe that. wow you are a waste of time faggot.
ultradumbass 4 years ago
excuse me! I'm not some idiot! wow if anyones a waste of time its you not me!
Gallop1234 4 years ago
lol probably some 5 year old shrimphead. i am ending this conversation since this is getting nowhere.
ultradumbass 4 years ago
NOW WAIT JUST A MINUTE! I WILL END THIS, CAUSE IT JUST SO HAPPENS ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG!
The Andrea Doria had 1,706 passengers and crew on board the moment she was hit by the Stockholm. 51 people were killed, 46 on the Andrea Doria, and 5 on the Stockholm. And I am actually right because I have read at least 2 books that have these exact statistics.
frankydman 3 years ago
just 2? want to know how many I have read? let me tell you. oh wait no I think i shouldn't cause counting to two is the biggest accomplishment you'll ever make.
ultradumbass 3 years ago
I have counted to 400 once, and I didnt go higher because I didnt want to waste my time! Anyway, the keywords are "at least", meaning MORE THAN 2
frankydman 3 years ago
hahaha you think you are correct cause 2 sources say so? hahahahahahaha you must be dumb to take a book word by word. titanic numbers also have several different numbers that give different accounts. some say 1495, others 1500, others 1506, some 1513 and some even go to 1565 and 1586.
ultradumbass 3 years ago
WILL YOU GIVE IT A REST ALREADY! SHEESH! I have had enough of you, and I said MORE THAN 2, NOT JUST 2, so leave me alone already!
frankydman 3 years ago
who is the one that came up and started flaming? don't you go and make me look like the bad guy.
ultradumbass 3 years ago
You know what, just STOP ALREADY, as far as Im concerned, I don't want to fight anymore, and technicly YOU started this whole arguement MONTHS ago!
frankydman 3 years ago
and you revived it. so who's fault is that for reviving ww3(or i should say 4)?
ultradumbass 3 years ago
NOW Im gonna end it. If it will keep you quiet, this is what Im gonna say: All rght fine, Im wrong, youre right, I "revied" the arguement, BUT ITS YOURE FALUT FOR EVEN STARTING IT! So there. Dont bother replying. As of now, this is OVER!
frankydman 3 years ago
ok w/e childish behaviour of yours.
ultradumbass 3 years ago
Can you post the rest of the clip?
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CASTRER 4 years ago
The "Andrea Doria" actually sunk in July of 1956, Ira...
fromthesidelines 4 years ago