Video #24, "Rick's Pipe Dream" Magnetic Motor - Generator Project

[ggibney0856]

Instead of moving the stator.. leave it as a stationary position and move the magnets to the curve you are trying to achieve thereby not having any friction issues

[TheRickoff]

@ggibney0856 Sure, it is easy enough to move the rotor magnets into a curving lineup (in the current configuration - not as mounted in this video), but how would you propose achieving repulsion to the stator at the tail end of a rotor magnet group if using that method? It would mean that the last magnet of the group would have to be in repulsion to the stator immediately after the rotor group passes the stator, either by moving the stator into repulsion or changing polarity of the last magnet.

[TheRickoff]

Remember, the magnets of each rotor magnet group are in attraction to the stator. If you change the polarity of the last magnet in a rotor magnet group, you would have to do that after it passes by the stator. Otherwise, it would cause rotation to halt as the last magnet approaches the stator. Therefore you would have to physically move the last rotor magnet just after it passes the stator. A curving rotor magnet layout cannot accomplish that.

[djchefhams]

nice work. nothing ventured nothing gained. Good to see some ppl actually using their brains and giving something a go. keep at it.

[TheRickoff]

@djchefhams Thanks, and you can rest assured the project will continue.

[VeneerBox]

If there was an inkling of evidence that your prototype could indeed run by itself (let alone produce some power) I would have been cutting PVC pipe 10 months ago! I believe the truth is that you have come to the impassable point, joined by all the ghosts of those who have also hit this same point over the millennia.

I would rejoice in your success if I ever thought is would come to pass.

VB

[TheRickoff]

If you truly believed, 10 months ago, that replicating the prototype would have been a waste of time, then why have you wasted 4 hours watching my 25 videos? What you believe is your business, and it doesn't defray me from continuing to pursue my Pipe Dream. The project continues, and progress is still being made. I don't believe in impasses. Obstacles and challenges - yes, but never an impasse. If I had your negative frame of mind then I, as you, never would have started with this effort.

[Cthrilla]

What if you had two wheels working in conjunction. Each wheel has a like a cam which moves the stator of the other wheel allowing it to pass the "hump" the cam would activate at the opposite position of each other. At ones power stroke the other one disables and vise versa does that make sense? It does to me I'm not sure if im explaining it write. But I share the same pipe dream as you only I have not made any models due to lack of funds.

[TheRickoff]

You could certainly do this, but of course it would complicate the build. It would be easier to employ cam actions and multiple stators on a single wheel, and this is a concept that I do favor and will be experimenting with. I suggest that you construct the basic Pipe Dream apparatus and begin experimenting.  It is easy to build and inexpensive. You can start with just a few magnets and perform many experiments this way. Best 2 U, Rick :)

[X00000013]

Try sliding moving stator to inner diameter instead of outer. Just a thot. Magnet mass is stonger in central location

[TheRickoff]

The stator must slide outwards at the tail end of a South rotor magnet group, and inwards at the tail end of a North group. No getting around that if the stator is to be aligned properly forthe next approaching rotormagnet group.

[X00000013]

IMHO, WM2d has learned me light ballast in great diameter is "better" than the same mass at a central axis point. For what it's worth,Thanx for posting!

[labpsycho]

I have tried a simple setup using geomagnets, and one can expect about 100 mv to be generated in an small coil as the magnet rolled by). The key will be to get the correct value of the inductor, capacitor and iron core inductor so te resonance of that circuit times (and discharges) with the rotational speed of your rotor to help it rotate out of the sticky spot.

[labpsycho]

Rick - May I suggest to eschew the mechanical mechanism - there is too much inertia and direction changing with that setup, as neat as you have it, is. Rather, get rid of that mechanical slider, instead, put an inductor near the rotor magnets, and a capacitor, to cause a resonance in that circuit, which then collapses into another say iron core inductor above your rotor. The point is this, temporarily store that small amount of electrical energy that can be generated.

[TheRickoff]

Yes, I am sure that if I add my birch flywheel ring then it will perform better. It would also perform better if I give the rotor a hand spin to start things. I can also lower the stator to get a much stronger rotation, and tha would probably drive the rotor past the track curvature. The problem, though, is that I really need to gain at least a portion of the available repulsion at the tail end of the magnet groups, and that is only possible through rapid movement of the stator carriage.

[TheRickoff]

Without that added repulsion, the rotations will be weak at best. That's because the attraction acceleration at the lead end of a rotor magnet group would be more or less canceled out by the reverse attraction seen at the tail end of the group if the stator magnet poles are not immediately moved into repulsion.

[Justalabrat]

Rickoff, what if you added some weight to your wheel, say 5 pounds or so, would that give it enough inertia to over come moving the carriage at the end?