I read your message above. However not only did my instructer told me that. Also I know someone who can speak Japanease fairly well and she told me the same thing.
are you agreeing or disagreeing? if you get hands and feet move in harmony from han suki, then i don't know what to tell you. the name would be in okinawan dialect...
Thats exactly my point. No one in Villari's speaks Chinese, weather it be Cantonese or Mandarin.
Ask ANYONE who speaks Chinese. They will tell you it is gibberish. Those words do not exist.
Better yet go to an open tournament and tell a chinese master your performing "Sho Tung Kwok" (yes, that is the CORRECT spellign) and they will look at you like you have 5 heads, since you just used made up words.
Dont take my word for it. Go find someone fluent in Chinese.
ok, first off, FRED VILLARI'S WIFE IS CHINESE! She does speak the language from what I understand. han suki would be in japanese...not chinese. It means perfect strike in Japanese (my brother speaks it). second of all, of course if you told a Chinese master you are doing Sho Tung Quak (sorry, that's how I was taught it's spelled) that they wouldn't know what it meant. It is probably a phonetic spelling. Why do you want to argue? According to you, they are just made up words...
Hunsuki (I am not sure of the exact spelling) means 7 deadly flowering of the tiger. Shudemqu (same with this) is another form. It is the next form after hunsuki and that means hands and feat in harmony. Aslo I believe though I am not entirely sure but I believe they are Japanese
sho tung kwok is a form that GM Villari made up. han suki is kenpo. neither are japanese. sho tung kwok is theoretically the first "shaolin" form you learn, but yet it's not from china. it has chinese principles in it. when you learn it, you will see the softer blocks and movements...that's chinese. Han Suki, on the other hand, would be okinawan in origin, which isn't part of japan at all. for the meanings of hansuki, just look up joe rebelo. he's got a video on here that is all about it
Hey tehre. Ex-2nd degree. Do you train up northeast? I'm in the Simsbury area and I trained with, I guess who would now be Master Firestone. I quit two years ago but I still go and compete in the Sparring part of tournaments around here. Han Suki was my least favorite form to learn and use at competitions. I'm not much of a puncher haha.
Try competeing with a very good Crane form... if you get it just right... judge's love it.
Heh, I'm now starting to learn Han Suki myself, I'm down in Florida, in the Lake Park school. As someone else said, Its interesting to see the form done differently.
Nice Hon Suki do u go to North Windham and train with Master Caputo. I go to Newington my instructor is Mr.Gray and I sometimes train with Master Shirley.
wait do you learn in the valari system or whatever...whats the guys name like fred or something....our grandmaster trained with him for like 15 years...thats creepy
hi. im almost a 4th degree in yuan yen do karate in norwell, ma and i know that form haha...hon suki...wow omg yeah but like our system does it a little different we use more of the kempo and do it ALOT faster haha but you did it pretty well. im just excited to see part of my system somewhere else. where are you from?
Not bad. I go to the same school as "YangGuardian". It was pretty good. Just like everybody else said, slow it down a little and work on the leaning stances at the end a little. Check out our videos, search "VDragonz".
DUDE...SHALIN KEMPO!!! I'm A third degree Black belt myself of this system. And dude, Hands done Neglie!!! ANd I agree. Dude u did good, but ti coudl have been better. I mean you went to quickly in teh breathign set. You have to slow it down a little. Usung too much Kempo there. You have to explode at teh end of teh Strike. Otehr wise for a second degree, u did pretty dam good. PS, What town do u go to?
i go to north windam...this is a kempo form so i am sapost to use allot of kemp...where do you go...proofreed your thing the es and the hs are switched
The form is okay, it could use some work in some places but thats why martial arts is a life long journey I have been doingthis for 13 years and I still learn more ad more that I dont know every day...
Karate not the best martial arts but not the worst
Billyzey 11 months ago
The name of the form is spelt; Hon Tsu ki and it means 7 deadly hands.
i also train at a Villari's and i know this for a fact
Bodywash119 1 year ago
Wow looks like your dancing. other than that pretty good
Philip31599 1 year ago
I am saying that hunsuki mean 7 deadly flowering hands of the tiger. Shu demqua means hands and feet in harmony.
Karateman42 1 year ago
Han Suki-Perfect fist
RealityLights 1 year ago
Are you guys still arguing about that I put that to rest so long ago
Karateman42 2 years ago
"Honsuki."
From one who once taught it.
VinDcator 2 years ago
I'm in the Villari's System down South, here in florida. They yell at us for doing the Kiai too long down here..
Good form though!
ForgetTheHype14 3 years ago
Look. Im obviously just repeating something I was told. It means whatever your instructor says it means. I don't care anymore.
ff8123 4 years ago
is this in sturbridge?
TaiPan15 4 years ago
Yes it was sturbridge of 2007
karategirlee200 4 years ago
Sweet moves dude.
ps. Its me.
darkjak92 4 years ago
No... considering you told me you did this at school.
karategirlee200 4 years ago
Um, first off, great job with the form. Secondly, your meaning of han suki is wayyyy off. it means perfect strike.
Fanara1 4 years ago
I actually believe you on this. The translations we've been given for words have not been... consistent.
ff8123 4 years ago
I read your message above. However not only did my instructer told me that. Also I know someone who can speak Japanease fairly well and she told me the same thing.
Karateman42 4 years ago
are you agreeing or disagreeing? if you get hands and feet move in harmony from han suki, then i don't know what to tell you. the name would be in okinawan dialect...
Fanara1 4 years ago
interesting...thats differnt from our way.
was this last years sturbridge?
izzyve 4 years ago
Ya...
I trian under master Ken Kuputo who do you train under
Karateman42 4 years ago
Oh right... or Sho Tung Kwa... (sorry for my horrendous spelling of that)
cheeseclub787 4 years ago
As Villari students we are told that means "Hands and feat moving in harmony".
Anyone who speaks chinese will tell you it is in fact gibberish.
ff8123 4 years ago
sho tung quak actually means "hands and feet moving in harmony." BTW, I was a Villari student...I was never told it meant that.
Fanara1 4 years ago
Thats exactly my point. No one in Villari's speaks Chinese, weather it be Cantonese or Mandarin.
Ask ANYONE who speaks Chinese. They will tell you it is gibberish. Those words do not exist.
Better yet go to an open tournament and tell a chinese master your performing "Sho Tung Kwok" (yes, that is the CORRECT spellign) and they will look at you like you have 5 heads, since you just used made up words.
Dont take my word for it. Go find someone fluent in Chinese.
ff8123 4 years ago
ok, first off, FRED VILLARI'S WIFE IS CHINESE! She does speak the language from what I understand. han suki would be in japanese...not chinese. It means perfect strike in Japanese (my brother speaks it). second of all, of course if you told a Chinese master you are doing Sho Tung Quak (sorry, that's how I was taught it's spelled) that they wouldn't know what it meant. It is probably a phonetic spelling. Why do you want to argue? According to you, they are just made up words...
Fanara1 4 years ago
I can only tell you what I've already been told. Neither of us speak Chinese. Obviously it deserves further study.
ff8123 4 years ago
Hunsuki (I am not sure of the exact spelling) means 7 deadly flowering of the tiger. Shudemqu (same with this) is another form. It is the next form after hunsuki and that means hands and feat in harmony. Aslo I believe though I am not entirely sure but I believe they are Japanese
karategirlee200 4 years ago
sho tung kwok is a form that GM Villari made up. han suki is kenpo. neither are japanese. sho tung kwok is theoretically the first "shaolin" form you learn, but yet it's not from china. it has chinese principles in it. when you learn it, you will see the softer blocks and movements...that's chinese. Han Suki, on the other hand, would be okinawan in origin, which isn't part of japan at all. for the meanings of hansuki, just look up joe rebelo. he's got a video on here that is all about it
Fanara1 3 years ago
Hey tehre. Ex-2nd degree. Do you train up northeast? I'm in the Simsbury area and I trained with, I guess who would now be Master Firestone. I quit two years ago but I still go and compete in the Sparring part of tournaments around here. Han Suki was my least favorite form to learn and use at competitions. I'm not much of a puncher haha.
Try competeing with a very good Crane form... if you get it just right... judge's love it.
cheeseclub787 4 years ago
Heh, I'm now starting to learn Han Suki myself, I'm down in Florida, in the Lake Park school. As someone else said, Its interesting to see the form done differently.
Tswolf1422 4 years ago
i can see the influence of shaolin in this form, noteably the low horsestance, but i just can't stand the blocky stiffness that karate imcorporates
Kitchmann 4 years ago
this is kempo not karate
Karateman42 4 years ago
Nice Hon Suki do u go to North Windham and train with Master Caputo. I go to Newington my instructor is Mr.Gray and I sometimes train with Master Shirley.
shaolinfighter131 4 years ago
that anouncment has to be really freakin anoying
apyancey2006 4 years ago
LMAO!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
gongbu 4 years ago
yay for shaolin kempo! :)
amandam37 4 years ago
wait do you learn in the valari system or whatever...whats the guys name like fred or something....our grandmaster trained with him for like 15 years...thats creepy
amandam37 4 years ago
fred villary. most likly allot of systoms used to be part of the systom i'm in
Karateman42 4 years ago
hi. im almost a 4th degree in yuan yen do karate in norwell, ma and i know that form haha...hon suki...wow omg yeah but like our system does it a little different we use more of the kempo and do it ALOT faster haha but you did it pretty well. im just excited to see part of my system somewhere else. where are you from?
amandam37 4 years ago
north windam
Karateman42 4 years ago
targeting is off...you gotta really exaggerate those strikes and stances in tournaments. not horrible though
Letskate 4 years ago
Not bad. I go to the same school as "YangGuardian". It was pretty good. Just like everybody else said, slow it down a little and work on the leaning stances at the end a little. Check out our videos, search "VDragonz".
gomets51 4 years ago
lol good job,nice ki aups
alltimegamer 5 years ago
Great job on the Han Suki Kata....I've been looking for a video of it for quite a while ....Thanks
Tarpman5000 5 years ago
DUDE...SHALIN KEMPO!!! I'm A third degree Black belt myself of this system. And dude, Hands done Neglie!!! ANd I agree. Dude u did good, but ti coudl have been better. I mean you went to quickly in teh breathign set. You have to slow it down a little. Usung too much Kempo there. You have to explode at teh end of teh Strike. Otehr wise for a second degree, u did pretty dam good. PS, What town do u go to?
YangGuardian 5 years ago
i go to north windam...this is a kempo form so i am sapost to use allot of kemp...where do you go...proofreed your thing the es and the hs are switched
Karateman42 5 years ago
The form is okay, it could use some work in some places but thats why martial arts is a life long journey I have been doingthis for 13 years and I still learn more ad more that I dont know every day...
joshchizi 5 years ago
Of all the forms I've learned, that one is hands down my favorite.
memanfre 5 years ago