@tylertyler82 It is a known fact that traditional martial arts students progress slowly and uneffectively. I suggest a modern style like boxing, kickboxing and the likes. But no doubt, the traditional aspect of fighting will give you an extreme advantage if you learn both.
@OwayneKhoo93 Well, I don't know about it being ineffective. Here's a quote from Bruce Lee: "Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. [It] is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style [of kung fu] that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost." –Bruce Lee
@44excalibur Obviously in his quote it seems that thai boxing is superior to kung fu. Dont get me wrong, I am a BIG fan of kung fu, practise a certain degree of it, and proud of it. But to be realistic, you dont see people training in pure traditional winning in full contact fights. But if you combine both mod and trad, you will be great.
@OwayneKhoo93 Yes, you're right. Lee was complimenting Thai boxing. But I believe he was also complimenting CLF for being versatile and well-rounded, as other styles of Kung Fu tend to be built around more specific types of combat. I also think it's ironic when people compare "modern" to "traditional," because boxing, wrestling, and Muay Thai have been around for centuries. Karate and CLF didn't exist until the 1800's, and BJJ is mostly taken from Judo. Everything old is new again.
@elchacal31@elchacal31 The quote comes from a book titled "Bruce Lee - Between Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do, by Jesse Glover." You can look it up on Google. You can also type Bruce Lee and Choy Li Fut. I don't think youtube will let me post any links.
@jaylyn3 I believe that the horse benches in traditional kung-fu styles serve(d) two purposes: 1) They are heavier than most staffs and other weapons so were good for upper body strength training 2) They were commonly implemented in many styles to provide practice with an object that could be found in a typical surrounding, such as at a restaurant or park. Often times you have to fight with what you had around and the horse bench was quite common.
Even though I DON'T believe such techniques as practical in an actual fight, nevertheless I love the form and beauty derived from a time of tradition and renaissance. I'm more Jeet Kun Do, Eskrima, and MMA, but such Kung Fu nevertheless is inspiring. I like it. And the kid is cute.
@UniversalVision your a fool to see no practical fighting advantage in training true kung fu, strong rooted stances, blocks and parries that effectively cover your head/ body, well placed footwork to prevent the opponent sweeping, kicking out or tripping your legs, a huge array of long range attacks for distance, an ampel amount of tricky infighting techniques that you really have to be taught to ever learn.
@UniversalVision plus you have your qi gong breathing (relaxation, focus), your chin na (grappling/ joint locks). your shouijaou (throwing tripping/takedowns). your conditioning (hardened striking blocking points). each and every style of fu incorperates these skills some may focus on a specific aspect over others but all in all every system of kung fu is a complete fighting system just as good as escrima. mma and jeet coon do are currently incomplete, bruce lee never mastered any martial art/s
@smokinthepot Perhaps I misunderstood it. However, there are clear differences between fighting styles born from either renaissance or war. Eskrima is definately war because of the waring tribes of the Philippines. Bushido and Kung Fu also, and some parts of Shaolin "moves". Aikido was "Ren". Of course conditioning is definately important, being that Spec Ops of all countries need those. To me JKD concentrates on ESSENTIAL strikes, blocks, etc. However, I am open to learn anything (^w^).
@UniversalVision a fighting stance is the movement you assume in a real fight provided that it is in an applicable event. usual punch you do during training will always be the first punch you will do in an actual fight. the fighting styles, stance differ due to the assumptions of the master of how their enemies will attack or how you will initiate the attack... remember, there are no better fighting styles, only a better fighter.
@blakwingz That's a good answer (^_^)! Not to DULL the art, let us take a scientific approach? Let's say I make "matrix" of all the kinds of punches. Surely enough there would be a certain punch that is most affective and frequent, since work is energy and frequency of work is POWER. Thus, all the punches of each ART is either more effective in there sort of way. Nothing beats the common punch that is, which I assume is most effective in the common fight. War is a different game however.
@N00l3ER7 Actually every school or school branch chooses their own color system.... Originaly there wasn't any sash system, It was just simply Si Hing, Si Dai etc. or in english Big Brother, Little Brother and then the same for sister. Sifu means Father teacher not master. These guys are probably wearing gold sashes because it matches the uniform.
@Deibodese no is not, i practice CLF, and it depends on the training that you recive, coz what you see here is only forms, a several types of moves in a specific order, nothin random, BUT there's an other parrt of CLF that you dont see here, and that's the COMBAT, combat is more a lot like kick boxing, gloves, box moves, several kicks, and if you train more for combat u'll get very strong arms.
These Guys are beginners its white sash then yellow, the tecniques these students are trying to do are much to advanced thtsa why there is no speed or power there. in several of the tecniques the students did not have their guard properly and could have taken a hit to the face. it would have been better to try and show less advanced tecniques so that can show their power and speed properly.
Cai Li Fo (Mandarin) or Choy Li Fut (Cantonese) are the base the Choy Lay Fut Choy Lei Fut are off shoots
yes... choy lee fut, choy lay fut, choy li fut, its the same, in my country... chile i practice kung fu choy lay fut, but also are others academies and their name are choy lee fut, are exactly the same thing!
@xlysabj Yes. Those are different spellings for the same art. It's got nothing to do with the branches within CLF. Those have different names (Chan Family, Fatsam, Buk Sing, etc.) but they are all CLF.
Exactly. Where's the speed, power and explosiveness? While studying Northern Shaolin years ago, I'd heard Choy Lay Fut was known for those 3 things. When I started training CLF, I quickly found that to be VERY true, and those attributes are stressed quite heavily at our school. Hopefully, the san shou doesn't look like muay thai instead of CLF, which seems to be a trend...
It is wise to teach beginners an advanced form. Everyone is a beginner anyway. Beginners are people with 'empty minds'. Empty minds are like empty cups. There is a lot more to fill. On the other hand, an advanced student is full of opinions and other ideas. They end up making their own interpretation of an advanced form. Yes, it is wise to teach beginners an advance form. Start from a clean cup. cheers
definitly. the kid was shy too! hahaha. although i would like to comment on the adult demo, where was the fajin? all i saw was some fluid movements with no show of power.
Choy Gar which is Northern Footwork & High Kicks, Lee Gar which closely resembles Hung Gar has the Choys or Hammers and Fut Gar or Buddhist Family is where CLF gets its Palm strikes. I consider CLF the Tiger-Panther Style.
I have been taking Choy Lay Fut for 1 year now and I still feel like a moderate beginner.. I look forward to mastering the skills and movements
tylertyler82 6 months ago
@tylertyler82 It is a known fact that traditional martial arts students progress slowly and uneffectively. I suggest a modern style like boxing, kickboxing and the likes. But no doubt, the traditional aspect of fighting will give you an extreme advantage if you learn both.
OwayneKhoo93 3 months ago
@OwayneKhoo93 Well, I don't know about it being ineffective. Here's a quote from Bruce Lee: "Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. [It] is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style [of kung fu] that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost." –Bruce Lee
44excalibur 2 months ago
@44excalibur Obviously in his quote it seems that thai boxing is superior to kung fu. Dont get me wrong, I am a BIG fan of kung fu, practise a certain degree of it, and proud of it. But to be realistic, you dont see people training in pure traditional winning in full contact fights. But if you combine both mod and trad, you will be great.
OwayneKhoo93 2 months ago
@OwayneKhoo93 Yes, you're right. Lee was complimenting Thai boxing. But I believe he was also complimenting CLF for being versatile and well-rounded, as other styles of Kung Fu tend to be built around more specific types of combat. I also think it's ironic when people compare "modern" to "traditional," because boxing, wrestling, and Muay Thai have been around for centuries. Karate and CLF didn't exist until the 1800's, and BJJ is mostly taken from Judo. Everything old is new again.
44excalibur 2 months ago
@44excalibur OMG where did you read that? can you pass the link please?
elchacal31 2 months ago
@elchacal31 @elchacal31 The quote comes from a book titled "Bruce Lee - Between Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do, by Jesse Glover." You can look it up on Google. You can also type Bruce Lee and Choy Li Fut. I don't think youtube will let me post any links.
44excalibur 2 months ago
@44excalibur okay never mind i'll look into it thanks a lot man (:
elchacal31 2 months ago
@elchacal31 You're welcome! I PM'd you some links instead, since youtube wouldn't allow me to post them. Have a nice day! :)
44excalibur 2 months ago
choy lay fut i hope i get the honor one day to learn
saraxoxoful 7 months ago
THATS ALL ERMAC FROM MORTAL KOMBAT
subuazul 9 months ago
@subuazul yep one of his styles haha he also uses hua chuan
TheFuzzyRaven 8 months ago
@subuazul ya man whenever i play as ermac from mk in mk deception i tend to use choy lee fut the most than hua chuan
kenshiro100cracked 6 months ago
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the third and fourth kids are not bad! in general, your guys's forms look pretty good, but how long do you spend on your horse?
TheMasterTripMonkey 1 year ago
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TheMasterTripMonkey 1 year ago
hey at the start what is that bench for??
jaylyn3 1 year ago
@jaylyn3 I believe that the horse benches in traditional kung-fu styles serve(d) two purposes: 1) They are heavier than most staffs and other weapons so were good for upper body strength training 2) They were commonly implemented in many styles to provide practice with an object that could be found in a typical surrounding, such as at a restaurant or park. Often times you have to fight with what you had around and the horse bench was quite common.
loganINTJ 1 year ago
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thesparkflyer 1 year ago
Even though I DON'T believe such techniques as practical in an actual fight, nevertheless I love the form and beauty derived from a time of tradition and renaissance. I'm more Jeet Kun Do, Eskrima, and MMA, but such Kung Fu nevertheless is inspiring. I like it. And the kid is cute.
UniversalVision 1 year ago
@UniversalVision your a fool to see no practical fighting advantage in training true kung fu, strong rooted stances, blocks and parries that effectively cover your head/ body, well placed footwork to prevent the opponent sweeping, kicking out or tripping your legs, a huge array of long range attacks for distance, an ampel amount of tricky infighting techniques that you really have to be taught to ever learn.
smokinthepot 1 year ago
@UniversalVision plus you have your qi gong breathing (relaxation, focus), your chin na (grappling/ joint locks). your shouijaou (throwing tripping/takedowns). your conditioning (hardened striking blocking points). each and every style of fu incorperates these skills some may focus on a specific aspect over others but all in all every system of kung fu is a complete fighting system just as good as escrima. mma and jeet coon do are currently incomplete, bruce lee never mastered any martial art/s
smokinthepot 1 year ago
@smokinthepot Perhaps I misunderstood it. However, there are clear differences between fighting styles born from either renaissance or war. Eskrima is definately war because of the waring tribes of the Philippines. Bushido and Kung Fu also, and some parts of Shaolin "moves". Aikido was "Ren". Of course conditioning is definately important, being that Spec Ops of all countries need those. To me JKD concentrates on ESSENTIAL strikes, blocks, etc. However, I am open to learn anything (^w^).
UniversalVision 1 year ago
@UniversalVision a fighting stance is the movement you assume in a real fight provided that it is in an applicable event. usual punch you do during training will always be the first punch you will do in an actual fight. the fighting styles, stance differ due to the assumptions of the master of how their enemies will attack or how you will initiate the attack... remember, there are no better fighting styles, only a better fighter.
blakwingz 1 year ago
@blakwingz That's a good answer (^_^)! Not to DULL the art, let us take a scientific approach? Let's say I make "matrix" of all the kinds of punches. Surely enough there would be a certain punch that is most affective and frequent, since work is energy and frequency of work is POWER. Thus, all the punches of each ART is either more effective in there sort of way. Nothing beats the common punch that is, which I assume is most effective in the common fight. War is a different game however.
UniversalVision 1 year ago
i thought choy li fut put a lot emphasis on power? Correct me if im wrong but i dont see them showing much power.
FaridYM 1 year ago
@FaridYM omg....
saraxoxoful 7 months ago
what makes you think theyre beginners?...... they are definitely not beginners... gold sash is just before black sash in choy li fut.
white orange purple blue green white-gold gold brown black (red for instructors that arent black yet)
N00l3ER7 1 year ago
@N00l3ER7 Actually every school or school branch chooses their own color system.... Originaly there wasn't any sash system, It was just simply Si Hing, Si Dai etc. or in english Big Brother, Little Brother and then the same for sister. Sifu means Father teacher not master. These guys are probably wearing gold sashes because it matches the uniform.
lostlohan 1 year ago
I noticed most of the students have unusually thin arms. Is that a result from the training?
Deibodese 1 year ago
@Deibodese nah they just asian, and its the uniform/clothing that make the body unproportioned
Jynx93 1 year ago
@Deibodese i think its because they never build up their arm
jiahan22 1 year ago
@Deibodese no is not, i practice CLF, and it depends on the training that you recive, coz what you see here is only forms, a several types of moves in a specific order, nothin random, BUT there's an other parrt of CLF that you dont see here, and that's the COMBAT, combat is more a lot like kick boxing, gloves, box moves, several kicks, and if you train more for combat u'll get very strong arms.
guerraty 1 year ago
nice kungfu i like the kid he's great keep up the good work and god bless you all
jeongyim 2 years ago
Thanks!
xlysabj 2 years ago
These Guys are beginners its white sash then yellow, the tecniques these students are trying to do are much to advanced thtsa why there is no speed or power there. in several of the tecniques the students did not have their guard properly and could have taken a hit to the face. it would have been better to try and show less advanced tecniques so that can show their power and speed properly.
Cai Li Fo (Mandarin) or Choy Li Fut (Cantonese) are the base the Choy Lay Fut Choy Lei Fut are off shoots
stevedharris 2 years ago
Are CHOY LEE FUT, CHOY LAY FU, and CHOY LI FUT the same thing????????
xlysabj 2 years ago
yes, all the same thing, just different spellings.
ChineseOpera8 2 years ago
yes... choy lee fut, choy lay fut, choy li fut, its the same, in my country... chile i practice kung fu choy lay fut, but also are others academies and their name are choy lee fut, are exactly the same thing!
felipekungfuCLF 2 years ago
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flexchan 1 year ago
@xlysabj
there are 3 branches of choy lai fut
2 are hung hsing choy lai fut (hung is spelt differently in chinese)
1 buk hsing choy lai fut
flexchan 1 year ago
@xlysabj
yes
Ansleychung 1 year ago
@xlysabj Yes. Those are different spellings for the same art. It's got nothing to do with the branches within CLF. Those have different names (Chan Family, Fatsam, Buk Sing, etc.) but they are all CLF.
DocLow 1 year ago
Exactly. Where's the speed, power and explosiveness? While studying Northern Shaolin years ago, I'd heard Choy Lay Fut was known for those 3 things. When I started training CLF, I quickly found that to be VERY true, and those attributes are stressed quite heavily at our school. Hopefully, the san shou doesn't look like muay thai instead of CLF, which seems to be a trend...
CLFFU 2 years ago
excelente. me gustó mucho. espero continúe colocando videos de su escuela
currucaful 2 years ago
kawaii desu neee
ricard0guitar 2 years ago
@ricard0guitar ?.... this isnt japanese retard
N00l3ER7 1 year ago
LOL..Chan Heung would be turning in his grave.
OhFookinELL 2 years ago
they're beginners apparently. but why teach advanced forms to beginners?
clffreak 2 years ago 2
@clffreak
It is wise to teach beginners an advanced form. Everyone is a beginner anyway. Beginners are people with 'empty minds'. Empty minds are like empty cups. There is a lot more to fill. On the other hand, an advanced student is full of opinions and other ideas. They end up making their own interpretation of an advanced form. Yes, it is wise to teach beginners an advance form. Start from a clean cup. cheers
ditgodin 1 year ago
definitly. the kid was shy too! hahaha. although i would like to comment on the adult demo, where was the fajin? all i saw was some fluid movements with no show of power.
Chen1766231 3 years ago
This is pretty poor in all honesty, there is very little speed and power and the stances look very lazy on the whole. Where is the explosiveness!
HeavensAMountain 3 years ago
man...If primitive CLF was like that I prefer the Lee Koon Hung's CLF
Moenpa 3 years ago
Where's the power???
bakachikun 3 years ago
Is Choy Lay Fut northern style or southern?
MartialArtNerd52475 3 years ago
it's born from a mix of 2 southern and 1 northern style
deabreu 3 years ago
its mixed with buddist palm and ley kuhn or something like that
theyshallcom 3 years ago
Choy Gar which is Northern Footwork & High Kicks, Lee Gar which closely resembles Hung Gar has the Choys or Hammers and Fut Gar or Buddhist Family is where CLF gets its Palm strikes. I consider CLF the Tiger-Panther Style.
clfguardian 3 years ago
awesome, i know some of those, x/c the first, second and last one. just started learning the one at 4:56 yesterday. sweet vid.
ChoyLiFutPanda 3 years ago
All these people are in the Plum blossom federation correct?
chanheurng 3 years ago
haha that was a really cute horse bench!
lohan570 3 years ago
Nice end to the performance :) Thanks for sharing.
kajuhop 3 years ago
cute ;P
theshadowboy607 3 years ago