HD: Kleeman SLK32 AMG vs BMW M3 E92 6-speed

[muratshawn]

a 2001 model vs a 2009 model????? wow....considering all that the SLK 32 is still the beast considering how old the slk is compared to the bmw here....

old vs young....and the old (slk32) still was leading.....

It took a while for the bmw to pass the supercharged amg power haha...

Id take the slk 32 any day.....the SLK 32 takes off faster than any Corvette the

way

oh and btw, the new slk 55,has the exact same horse power as the slk 32 - 355hp, but the new slk 55 is heavier than the slk32

[jannikfrey]

sind ja schwiizer mann...:-)

[08turboSS]

Superchargers are good only for power down low to the mid range..

[TheRossmannn]

@08turboSS my slk 32 boosts 20 PSI until 120 MPH then i hit 25 PSI

its a beast on the freeway

dyno is 400 hp at the wheels

[SMB67T]

Will take Mercedes over BMW anydays.

[vakhoabagt]

2001 Mercedes VS 2008 BMW ?????? Holy Shit, take 2008 SLK 350 and BMW will be FUCKED IN ITS ASS

[EvoPower2010]

with the SLK55 , M3 will be raped easily

[08turboSS]

@EvoPower2010 This is a modded SLK32... The newer SLK55 made 355 hp... and is heavier...Stock for stock the M3 wo9uld kill this SLK32 or a SLK55... But again this SLK32 was modded...

[03basesedan]

@08turboSS barely, pulley and tune is nothing

[ytcf71]

@08turboSS What a dumb comment, of course the M3 would kill a stock SLK32, it has over 70bhp more power...

[ODRCOL]

Sweet Race!

[VectronII]

AAAAAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJ FUCK YOU AMG

[Owebaby11]

Fuck Yeah

[kay19833]

yeeah the benz just got raped! i luv mercedes though. believe me i love it.

[theBMWorld]

Fu.. MB!!! BMW is the Best

[670lamborghini]

BMW///M 4LIFE!!!

[eddyshaar]

that was an awesome drag race

AMG beats the M3 on the 0-60, but the M3 wins in the end :)

[miksirikoitsen]

@eddyshaar

Are you kidding me or are you just stupid? The race started from 50km/h and the M3 made its pass when AMG was on 4th gear (over 200km/h).

[ytcf71]

@eddyshaar Yep, on the road, the AMG would waste the M3..even with less power.

[vanutkasuperman]

Both m3 and AMG are epic cars

[R32gang]

dount fuck with AMG

[edon1990]

M Power FOREVER..

[lucaciruben]

M3 is epic .. anymay i like both , Bmw and Mercedes.

[GroveWRF]

SLK32 is my favorite car.. AMG power.. :)

[IDaedalus]

This is a very good example to show torque vs bhp, that slk flies away from the m3 because of the shear torque it has. In a road situation the torque of the SLK is far more useable than the M3's, but the M3's is more suited for racing (revvy engine). Great vid, thanks.

[supergigiseba]

@IDaedalus non è una questione di coppia vs bhp (anche l'slk ha 400 bhp), bensì di peso!! L'slk è più leggera e in accelerazione si sente a quasi parità di bhp

[FrankW1029]

nice...the M came back...

[Foukos91]

BMW OOOWNS!!!

[deriwhiteswift]

bmw has better handling in circuit

[sackpak78]

wow...and this so-called mr.know-it-all twitchmassacre tells other people they look bad by making dumb comments?i click on "show more comments" 5 times and all i see is him talking shit to everyone in the thread.this person should think before he speaks when he tells other people to stop wasting their time. seriously...does he want a cookie for thinking he knows everything about cars...no offense,but i think this person has no life whatsoever

[BM0043]

@Matsnegrob

Good rolling start with the SLK32. Do some cooling mods for the intercooler to maintain the Power in 4th gear, your car pulls timing. Then a stock M3 E93 will not pass by ...

[twitchmassacre]

Oh! And again you show a deficiency in reading comprehension. When I said "crappy little car" I was referring to the RS4. And no, I don't believe Clarkson is god. In fact, i think he is a fucking clown, but the entire Top Gear cast, not just Clarkson, but all 3 presenters agreed that the M3 is superior in its class, and track results have proven the same.

[petrone75]

and that crappy little rs4 your talking about is faster around nurburgring than EVERY street legal production bmw aside from the e46 csl which isnt even in the states, so i thought when you meant crappy little car you must have been referring to the e46 because the rs4 is far from that. i dont even know why i waste my time with poeple like you, youve been haunting this video for how long?just waiting for someone to comment so you can argue with them.i hope it helps your self esteem.

[twitchmassacre]

The RS4's confirmed time around the ring is 8:09, making it 2s slower than the E92 M3 kid. It is also slower than the E92 around Tsukuba, Hockenheim, Vairano, Bedford Autodrome, Oschersleben, Willow Springs, Virginia International Raceway, Zolder, Serres Racing Circuit, Inta, etc. Just to name a few other tracks where the RS4 is between 1-5s behind the M3 PER LAP! Honestly, if you are going to reply to me with your "I don't know why I waste my time" bullshit, save it ignorant little pedestrian.

[twitchmassacre]

So I don't know if your question was simply rhetorical, or maybe you were just trying to be redundant, or plainly retarded, but why ask me if how the RS4 could be a copy of the M3 if it was introduced 2 years before it when we are referring to the M3 as a nameplate not a model? By the way the current RS4 was introduced 5 years after the E46 M3, and features a 4.2L V8 so what kind of idiot would even consider comparing it to the 3.2L I6 E46 M3 let alone call it "superior" it's a crappy little car

[petrone75]

each next gen competitor will be better than the next, bmw made the e46 m3, audi one upped it with the rs4, bmw one upped them with the e92 m3, its an ongoing competition and basically whoever has the most current model will win. future rs model m3 competitor>e92 m3>rs4> e46 m3. Understand? Why do you keep going back to Jeremy Clarkson's opinion like its God's? Just because he says something doesnt make it true... the e46 m3 was quite an achievement at its time, how is it a crappy little car?

[twitchmassacre]

E-thug? Spare me the internet lingo kiddo. Calling you on your ignorance has nothing to do with being a "thug". It is customary for Audi to introduce a model at the end of it's competitor's life cycle in order to claim false superiority. The E46 was the market leader for 5 years. Then Audi introduced the pathetic RS4. One upped them with a shitty little car that was only good for the initial 2 years of its lifecycle? 2 years and then it is outdone by a car with a smaller engine. PLEASE! Get real

[petrone75]

I know what the rs4 and the e46 "feature" thanks for the info though. i dont know what your deal is and why you feel like you need to be some e-thug but i gotta give it to you...you're a real badass

[MPowerS62]

V6 dies after 120? lol thats merc for you.

[blaziankhmer]

*droolin* white e92 M3 look so damn effin NICE!

[MALOSINZ]

Kleeman stage-I is what? Exhaust / ECU / Tune / Headers...S/C Pulley?

[matsnegrob]

SC Pulley wheel change and ECU. This one also has Kleemann differential for better traction of the line. This is actually my old car whcih I had tuned at Kleemann and I sold it to the driver in the clip.

[MALOSINZ]

Nice! :)

[miksirikoitsen]

@matsnegrob

very nice car... how much did the upgrades cost?

[miksirikoitsen]

@matsnegrob

How much does a pulley wheel change and ecu cost?

[alkrstev]

stage 2 kleeman on the slk32, and the M3 will lose all the way. I am sure that with even stage 1 the slk32 could beat the E92 m3 from a dead stop at the 1/4 mile.

[LJUNGWALD]

Great race! Thought the M3 would be much faster upp to 230 Km/h, nice to see that a Stage 1 Kleemann can hold a E92 M3 behind her at normal speeds and traffic :-)

[vladberca]

awesome race! thx for posting it, gustav!

[twitchmassacre]

Oh and by the way... What "supercar" has Merc created lately, and please don't say the McLaren SLR. The SLR was simply commissioned by Mercedes. Surprisingly *sarcasm*, it's chassis/ body structure, suspension, RTM (resin transfer molding), drivetrain tunning etc. are all built by McLaren, leaving only the engine and interior to Mercedes. The term "supercar" doen't hold any relevance in this argument, and it being is used too loosely lately.

[yormmm]

Mercedes CLK GTR

Mercedes SLS AMG

[twitchmassacre]

CLK GTR? That's a race car variant which is not street legal. A street legal version was made by modifying race spec CLK GTR's bw H.W.A. not by Mer and are not classified as production cars. SLS AMG? As I said, the term "supercar" is being used too lightly. Kids these days believe that anything with 550+ HP is a "supercar".

[chiwynnk]

a supercar is defined as a car which completes the ring in under 8 minutes ;)

[twitchmassacre]

Well buddy, that is YOUR definition. The BMW M3 CSL completes the ring in well under 8 minutes, actually over 10 seconds faster than the CLK 63 Black Series which has 2 extra cylinders 3 more liters, and 160 more HP, but I don't consider that a supercar.

[yormmm]

CLK DTM AMG

SL65 AMG BLACK SERIES

[twitchmassacre]

CLK DTM AMG?

SOOOOOOOOO much slower than the M3 CSL around the Ring even with a lot more HP. That is not a supercar, it is a supershit. The SL65 AMG BS might be considered a supercar, at least under today's standards.

[mooazz]

fuck yr self , its cleared by jermy mercedes benz faster than BMW

[twitchmassacre]

Cleared by who? Learn how to spell, and speak english before you talk shit little fag. By the way according to Jeremy Clarkson (who is a fag just like you) the M3 is better than both the RS4 and the C63 AMG. He said that the C63 is "insane", the RS4 is "civilized" and that the M3 is "sublime". After driving ALL 3 PRESENTERS AGREED that the M3 is the best of all , because according to them "the Audi and Merc are just copies of the M3, really good copies, but they will not as good as the original"

[hendrahendra]

they never concluded that the M3 is better. they said that the 3 are good cars in their own way. noob. it just goes to show that you are bias towards the M3.

[twitchmassacre]

They never said that the M3 is the best? Ok, ill send you the link little fag. By the way... What the fuck is it with you little idiots and the word "noob"?

/watch?v=vAG3WHkQv_s

Watch the end of that video (from the 9th minute on) you pedestrian son of a bitch.

[hendrahendra]

lol chill man. clearly you are arguing with everyone in this comment post. the c63 is faster in a straight line and the M3 is better in the bends. there is no denying that. if the m3 is a better car it would have killed the c63 on the straigts, but it didnt. im a merc man and i dont like bmws but the m3s m5s and m6s are good cars.

[twitchmassacre]

A sports car is only as good as i the way it can handle, straigtline speed is only a secondary concern, and only poser prioritize it. So clearly the M3 IS the better car. The C63 is a dimwitted saloon with an oversized engine. It is about as good as an American muscle car only with luxury.

[mooazz]

ok, that was yr reply ?

thats y the whole world say that american dont have respect. and u can see all the videos about m3 vs c63 and shut up u american pig ass

[twitchmassacre]

American? WHo's american you inbred swine? By the way, every time I see a video of the M3 and the C63 on a track (where real sports cars belong) the C63 has either run into a wall and killed it's driver, or is 3-5 seconds behind the M3 per lap, and when I see a C63 race an E92 M3 equipped with the 7 speed M-DCT transmission in a drag race, I see the M3 pull away thanks to it's superior gear ratios even with 2.2L less of displacement. Get lost you insignificant life form.

[mooazz]

loooooool yr so meeeen

[petrone75]

"the Audi and Merc are just copies of the M3, really good copies, but they will not as good as the original" -twitchmassacre.... how is the rs4 a copy of the m3 if it was made 2 years before it?

[twitchmassacre]

Two years before it? You do realize that the M3 has been produced by BMW since1986, or are you 5 years old? By the way, you are quoting the wrong person. Jeremy Clarkson said that not me, idiot.

[petrone75]

i do realize this i also realize that were talking about the e92 m3 and not any previouse models. i was simply pointing out that the rs4 could not be a copy of an e92 if it was made after the rs4. if you want to compare the e46 model to the current rs4 then id say as would most others that the rs4 is far superior to it as is the c63 amg and other current model cars. whats 5 years old have to do with anything? you sound like a little immature asshole attacking people verbally the way you do...

[twitchmassacre]

Kid, I have no idea what school you went to but please share that with us so that we don't end up sending our kids there. When Jeremy Clarkson said that the RS4 and C63 where copies of the M3 he didn't refer to the E92 specifically, he was referring to the M3 as a sports saloon. What he said was "BMW makes sports saloons, that is what they do best" and then he went of to say that the RS4 and the C63 are simply trying to be as good as the M3 in the sports saloon market segment. Understand?

[petrone75]

once again with the maturity...

[petrone75]

and i know jeremy clarkson said that. you quoted him and you are using what he said as valid information to prove your point. never mind that it's based off of an opinion...

[twitchmassacre]

Even the 3 moron's from Top Gear all agree that the C63 is inferior to the M3. They called it "a copy", said that although it while it was "insane" and "fun to drive", it would never be as good as the M3, because the M3 is "sublime". All that praise with considerably less HP, torque, and displacement. That's BMW slapping Merc in the face with a pair of nut sacks.

[ErosaScuderia]

XD!

[GTGTRR]

are u kidding me? u talking bout the C63 kicking the m3's ass? take both cars to a race track and the M3 will win by seconds. that'z cuz the AMG's are turbocharged and when it comes to corners, if the rpm drops too much, they lose advantage + Bimmers are more responsive

[matsnegrob]

The new AMG's (63) are not turbo or supercharged and your rationale is totally wrong. Supercharged AMG's have way more tork and response than a naturally aspirated engine at low rpm's.

[Chary0682]

Mercedes always has a car that will outperform any bmw you choose. I think this SLK did very well concidering its only a 3.2 liter. Try that against E92's true competitor-C63

[CrazyCaliber]

Exactly. That's why they're also going to have an option that shuts down two cylinders when all eight are not needed for economical reasons. Learn your shit.

[er1115]

Thank you for these videos, I'm a happy subscriber.

[gang0814]

m3\\\

[bmwfarsta]

SLK32 AMG 400HP

[KinGp97]

MB is for old men !!!

[arosuzi]

Oh that merc's automatic gearbox is so gay.. Who the hell wants a automatic gearbox for sportscar??

[deriwhiteswift]

i buy a merc not to race, but to use it daily.. so wtf

[CrazyCaliber]

I don't mind a C 300 as a daily driver. I'm just saying that Mercs don't have good enough engines.

But for me, if I can't afford an M3 or M5... Than it's a 330i E90. Beautiful, and professionally crafted. I wouldn't buy a 335i, because if turbos fuck up, they'll cost you thousands of dollars.

Electric Red 330i for the win.

[zzztroper]

nice race

[JonMartin84]

OMFG that M3 driver cant drive for shit its sooo funny that he loses every race or barely wins because hes a shitty driver that guy should trade his car in for an Automatic 335 or something cause he sucks horribly. And all his vids make the M3 look like shit.

[dcslay]

Agreed...

[JBFARTCC]

Guys that video does not make that brand new E92 look inmpressive vs a old ass SLK32 with pulley and tune i thought that M would have pulled alot better but it took 4 gears to pass it props to that old V6SC

[Caligula852]

sorry mate... they forgot to mention the slk32 was not stock... if u hear closely u can tell its not... sry about the mistake but that bmw sure kiked some serious ass

[mhd86]

keep shouting M power, but Benz will always be the king.

[CrazyCaliber]

King of what? Being at the bottom of the list? BMW just won "Most Sustainable Vehicle" last month five years straight! Where is Merc? Oh yeah, making their 75-HP-per-liter engines. Heh!

[mhd86]

1.mercedes' history of innovations speaks for it self

2.its more luxurious than BMW

3.if you think its at the bottom then why rich people still prefer it over BMW ?

[Technoboy1000]

MB is good only for drag races ,

but BMW owns MB on track.

[mhd86]

i said MB is the king i didn't say it's faulty-free, and BMW are nice cars i didn't say they'r shitty, but MB just happen to have better history reputation in building cars more than BMW, and people appreciates that and they love it, especially people like me who grew up on a MB.

it's like electing a president, even though he poops like the rest of the people.

[CrazyCaliber]

What you said before was bullshit. I never see Mercedes-Benzes on the road. Only BMWs. 1, 3, Z3, Z4, Z4 M, and so on. Even M6.

[mhd86]

if you never see MB on roads doesn't mean you'r right, i live in Vancouver and all i see is MB, that doesn't support my point either.

BMW build their cars for youngsters, and you see tons of youngsters in your neighborhood showing off their Beemers, MB is just four luxury wheels that drives comfortably in the city and fulfill our daily uses, because we live in city not on a race track!

[twitchmassacre]

Your ignorance really saddens me. BMW is changing their engines to force induction because their high performance naturally aspirate engines (which for 10 years have now been embarrassing Mercedes by winning 47 International Engine of the Year Awards over Mercedes' lousy 5) because their NA engines are no longer sustainable in today's efficiency and C02 conscious market. The Luxury Institute Ranked them #2 in the Premium Market which does not include RR or Bentley. By the way RR belongs to BMW.

[mhd86]

they won 47 best Int. engines of the year ? wow!

but they didn't start building their first car in the 19th century

or invented the first gas-powered auto

or the first 7speed auto tranny (no manual tranny cause mercedes is seeking comfortability which BMW can't achieve)

or made the first car to have breaks on all four wheels

or maybe Mecedes are focusing more on F1 GP racing which BMW fail to achieve

[mhd86]

oh and btw, mercedes is based on Maybach and not the other way around

[twitchmassacre]

Hahahaha, "F1 GP races which BMW fails to achieve". It must be nice to be able to slack off on F1 because you have seasoned veterans like McLaren to do all the hard work for you. It must also be nice to be caught cheating very once in a while. BMW achieved a great deal as for being a merely 4 year old STAND ALONE TEAM. Merc's dependance on McLaren is so obvious and disgusting that the only sports car they have launched lately that can actually handle superlatively bears a McLaren badge on it!!!!

[mhd86]

or maybe mclaren's dependence in on Mercedes' engines? and what supper car BMW launched lately ?

[twitchmassacre]

McLaren had been racking up GP wins ages before Mercedes even got involved with F1. Their first GP was won using a Ford engine! You should really learn your stuff before opening your trap and looking like a moron. By the way, what does making a supercar have to do with the quality of an automobile maker? Supercars are rarely profitable, diminishingly sustainable, and for the most part only help brand image. BMW being the super sector leader simply doesn't NEED to make one.

[mhd86]

moron? i think im done here

[twitchmassacre]

Yeah, I think you are.

[twitchmassacre]

Wrong. The Luxury Institute ranks BMW as #2 in luxury after Porsche, Merc is ranked as #3 meaning more successful individuals with a net worth of over $2m prefer BMW over Mercedes. BMW has also been outselling Merc since 2006, they are the #1 selling premium automobile brand.

[mhd86]

luxury institute? BMW proclaimed their manufacturing is based on sportiness and simplicity over luxury.

plus whatever happened to Rolls-royce, maybach, or even bentlies? so porsche took the crown over all these brands?

you'r right they are over selling cause they break more often than mercedes, that's why BMW is switching to twin turbos engine over naturally-aspirated engines to get power.

[CrazyCaliber]

HA! I think it's Merc who needs that shit! They desperate to get more power out of their 72.5-HP-per-litre C63. If your car has a good engine, it should be making 100 HP per litre at least. Oh, and if you're talking about forced induction over natural power, then why does the M-V8 the most powerful V8, making 103.5 HP per litre? Go get vag-fucked by a dog's tail.

[mhd86]

lol how old are you kid ?

[CrazyCaliber]

13, you stalker. I don't think 13 is a "kid", since high school is the upcoming year.

[yormmm]

You know that merc uses the same engine in SLS and there it got 580 hp, right?

MB puted the hp low on c63 cuz they didnt needed more to pull ahed of m3.

[Caligula852]

just in case u didnt know the McClaren F1 (NOT THE ONE FROM MERCEDES) has the engine of a BMW and that car outruns a BUGATTI VEYRON 0 TO 180 MPH so that pretty much killed u lol

[CrazyCaliber]

It's also the world's fastest naturally aspirated car! :D

241 MPH. Now, what Merc can top 241... Without stealing a Bugatti engine? XD

[mhd86]

thats true, but also Mclaren F1 team uses Mercedes-benz engines to win their Grandprix. which are second in Grandprix top ten list after ferrari.

[hawkzzter]

Not only Mclaren, but also Brawn And Force India.

[sammytsai]

EAT IT, EAT iT>

GO M// power!

..although...AMG does put up a good fight.

[rcking1991]

Hell Yeah M3!! I thought it was down and out but it came back to suprise me haha

[mhd86]

haha it still looked weak for an 11 year old car younger .. 4 gears to catch up ? how weak

[DoggysStyle]

I wonder which has the better top ends...Porsche, BMW or Ferrari

[Mubble]

Top end performance is determined by bhp, so I'd say Ferrari based on that.

[CrazyCaliber]

EAT IT, EAT IT, EAT IT!!!

GO M-POWER!!!

[mhd86]

it barely even won dude and the M3 got more power and its newer haha

[CrazyCaliber]

Yeah, compressors help, don't they? :D

[mhd86]

11 years old though :D

[Caligula852]

yea if it was only stock i would be impressed but still got outrun

[ytcf71]

@Caligula852 But it still has less power, and only revs to 6k, where as the M3 goes all the way round to 9....

[Turbulence654321]

that m3 is amazing in 4th gear

[nakenfisaren]

Nice & tight race!

[tmeng87]

lighter but less grunt :P

[bfiane]

ownt

[legendray2008]

Haha Merc fail !!

[talhaguzel]

I always want m3 to win :D

[Vietplaya1987]

haha me too!

[Reddragon816]

m power bitches!!

[simba282]

Dont know much about slk apart from i defo wouldnt own one.

Goodness M3 what happened there!

[chiodeguate1]

What vid are you guys watching?? LOL

[dcslay]

Why does the E90 M3 Fail so much???

I know why but damn... I feel bad for the Bmw guys.

[SammerJammer]

E92, and it doesnt fail it won that? WTF r u talking about?

[Reddragon816]

the video i saw the m3 won douch bag

[dcslay]

It beat an slk32... Even if it has 400hp and a slushbox the m3 still basically took 5 gears to pass it.=== Fail. Nice Car, just not up to par i would say...

[Reddragon816]

the bimmer won==pass fag

[dcslay]

Dont get your panties in a bunch because a slk"32" walked your godly m3 for the duration of the race lol.

[wessamkanj]

you call that a win

[Chary0682]

i KNOW OF A HONDA THAT WILL TAKE THAT M3 LOL

[beefforlife]

no chance merc! ciao benz

[Noobiewankenoobie]

SLK did great. You can hear and feel that it suffers from the terribly long shift times of that ancient "Speedshift." Especially on the road back to the starting point.

[LuckyCheesie]

sick top end as usual, sound of slk is so nice

[W33Dblazer]

whats the top speed of this m3?

[memoPFP]

damn! i love BMW!

[ultimaster1]

wow cool

[red33m23]

Nice ///AMG..!

[TripleZ89]

THAT was an interesting race... Thanks! (Forgot the SLK existed! Get more AMGs out there! ;-P)

[MultiNick10]

I agree!

[m5boarddotcom]

C32 AMG Estate coming.

[JosGrun]

A little bit the same result as the M3 vs the Audi S4. Would nice to see the SLK vs the S4....

[CJAEY]

E92 just came

[nmunmnm]

bmws always win at the top end