Corporate CEOS and executives do not represent the interests of shareholders.They do not represent the interests of employeesThey do not represent the interest of the community and other exterenal stakeholders to the company..They only represent themselves..They work to buy themselves fancy company jets, big executive retreats at resorts, huge corporate executivie salaries. The average CEO makes 500 times what the regular employee earns...
New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson abandoned his nomination to become commerce secretary under pressure of a grand jury investigation into a state contract awarded to his political donors
ilovesaskia1--shit forbid someone says something about obama i think i want your IP ,i,m a little pissed that trolls like you are on the internet so much ,i just want to see where your located,a govt office i bet ,we will see in a little bit every comment so far has been u gobbling on obamas knob ,let have a better look at you shall we
i hear people asking........where's my check, and the man isnt even in the white house yet! greedy, lazy people is what got us here! f u c k a ll of t h em!!!
my husband makes 90k, i make 30k, we worked hard to get where we are. we have 5 kids and save for their college and save also for our retirement. Why did people elect Obama when he is destroying the American Dream for people who reach out and actually take that opportunity from them? he is going to take it and give it to those who dont try as hard as we did. Its not fair and im sick and tired of some people excited about the money they are going to get from us! We are living in awful times..
jradai: please, get informed...your joint income is 120k. what r u talking about "Obama taking money from you", lets see if you'll come back and post here when your tax accountant tells you your taxes are less because the government gave you a tax break...and who's asking for checks? ur totally self righteous to think you work harder than the next person or group, u have no idea how hard people are working. So step down out of your ivory tower because the world simply doesn't work like that.
Not an ivory tower to notice the laziness and greed of the ones that will be picking our pockets. Trust me..what the limit is now on income to be taxed will be lower and lower.You'll be bitching soon too!
hammock:i wasn't addressing you but i'll speak to it anyway.
you're a "HATER" and i'll tell you why. You have no actual proof and your allegations are anecdotal at best, your riding the rhetoric of that right wing network FOXNews whom r cowards for disappearing know that the People have shut there mouth. Bill Richards is a support not a spokes person or surrogate of Obama's.
Star, so now you are telling me I don't have an opinion? And insulting me to boot...I vote, live and pay taxes (lots of them) in the US...so I have an opinion, whether you agree or not.I truly don't care.
jradai, if your figures are true, you make about the same as my wife and I. We have four kids, you have 5 so you would get an extra exemptions and our deductions probably are in the same neighborhood but not mirror images. I went and researched both tax plans. Under McCain's my family would get about another $800 back. Under Obama'a, we will get just over $1400 back. Our families are actually going to come out ahead on Obama'a plan.
Mayor Bloomberg, NYC Mayor is raising NYC Income taxes on people making $50,000 to $70,000 a year. Does anyone have any idea what the cost of living is in NYC????
StarMatter774: Please identify the areas that this administration has failed that you want an Obama presidency to turnaround. If you examine each point, you will find that there are many areas that Obama will continue the same direction, exacerbate them, or completely make things worse.
kusamabo:i think for the most part the case has been laid out over the past two years for everyone to examine and today the jury deliberates and hopefully tonight we'll have a verdict.
I mean really, Iraq was a mistake and handled terribly, the economy is shot, bush's attitude of unilateralism on the global front, millions of americans without healthcare.
I would argue that you're more in a position to have to make a case for Bush/McCain, why should we stay the course?
StarMatter774, as much as you'd like to believe what the media has been feeding you, McCain represents more of divergent from Bush's policies than Obama's plans. McCain will reduce government spending, Obama will increase it. McCain's tax plan will maintain and create jobs, Obama's will destroy job creation (I know this first hand). McCain's Healthcare plan is unorthodox, however, Obama's will stymie the industry and increase government spending.
kusamabo: I'm sorry, you've just made a completely subjective argument. So let me get this right, your view is the only correct view and all of us on the flip side of the argument are some how duped and unintelligent? McCain keeps talking about the surge working in a war that we should have never waged. We lost Tons of life and capital. Did they ever find those W.M.D.'s? Nope! What Allies, all the men dying in iraq are from the USA, if we had help, are economy wouldn't be strained 10B/mn.
StartMatter774, Call it subjective but I assess potential policies to determine how they would impact my business and my employees. I find Obama's far less appealing to my business than McCain's. I do not believe my position is unique. If you are in a position to make decisions that would impact the livelihood of others I would be more than willing to entertain your opposing arguments.
With regard to WMD, do you remember the climate of that time and the bravado exhibited by Saddam Hussein?
kusamabo: ok i googled "irag coalition" and the stats tell me only Great Britain has lost not even 5% of the deaths our US soldiers have sustained, not even mention over 30,000 americans wounded and thousands of other american soldier's have contracted disease's. 10 Billion a month and no allies giving financial help in the effort. There's no ginuine coalition on iraq, they're going along out of obligation not conviction.Maybe you're over that 250k and good for you but this is about the whole.
StarMatter774, also regarding your reference to Bush's perceived unilateral actions, aren't you forgetting all our allies who have been with us all along? Who do you want us to get permission before we act to protect ourselves and our interests? Russia? China? Iran? Germany? France?
We most certainly are no more assured that McCain will fulfill what little campaign promises he's ran on but if you have doubt about the tax threshold with obama, look at it this way:
The working people have a better chance in general with Obama's general philosophy than with McCain and the republican pro Corporation's.
StarMatter774, you need to clear the stars floating around your head. If you examine Obama's domestic and foreign programs, the tax cut you think you will be getting will really be a drain in your wallet. If you have ever been to a casino, let's just say Obama is the house. Some of you may think you have won, in reality, the whole nation loses.
Regarding corporations: Which candidate received corporate donations 4 to 1 over the other? Obama received more donations than McCain. Why is that?
kusamabo:Independent economist have concluded that the middle class will get more tax cuts under Obama's plan, now unless you are a PHD of world class calibre i'll go with the diagnosis of the scholarly economist and Warren Buffet.
No corporations are responsible for Obama's campaign finance, we the people financed him ourselve's and have broken records in doing so. Maybe you should behold the "stars floating around my head" and join us in our trance.
StarMatter: No thanks. I like to keep a clear head and stay away from hallucinogens.
In situ, you may get your tax cut, but if you look at the big picture, taking into account the big programs that Obama has in mind, do you really think that the wealth of the top 5% American earners can support them?
You are quite naive to think that corporations have not contributed to the candidates' campaigns. Corporate campaign contributions are made in various forms.
Kusamabo:i'm well aware of the no brainer argument about Obama's hands being tied as a result of the ditch the past republican administration has left us in, however we can't continue down a similar path with McCain. It's a clear choice whether you want america to work from the top-down or the BOTTOM-UP.
StarMatter774, please drop the talking points and tell me what exactly is the path this administration is heading that you want Obama to divert us from? Can you please articulate in your own words what you want from an Obama presidency?
kusamabo: in short, what i want from an Obama presidency is a 180 degree about face from Bush just like the majority of American's based on public opinion. When talking point's become synonymous with popular consensus, the opposition's territory is vulnerable, thats why Obama can afford to be challenging Republican strongholds. No question, this election could go either way but it is also clear that general consensus has leaned toward CHANGE from the last 8 yrs.
as for OBAMA and his tax cuts.. ..the facts are out there... IF a gop red supporter say it often enough on the conservative radio and on Faux news it automatically becomes true in thier narrow minds. I suggest that they consider the source for the 250,000th time.
and google for facts objectively.
If they choose not to..that is their right...this is America.
it's a bit more complex than that sweetie...and let me correct you the oil companies make 1k a second - are you new here?
You really don't want to debate EPA, Delta and other enviromental agencies with me? Not to mention the clean air act taxes we pay on everything from per gallon to inspections special noozles tanks etc. I don't think you do. All the while the Oil companies are shifting the cost to the station dealers since 2000- There are fewer company owned and more fes for everything.
Up to and including a mulitude of fees and taxes they pass on to the owners of these stations and teh consumer. They have the goverment kicking back truck loads of money for exploration, drill, transport, and refine the gas. Did you know that they too have passed the refining part on to Jobbers as well delivering the gas to the stations so you can bitch to the workers how THEY are ripping you off. The Oil companies has managed tohave their cake and eat it too. THX BUSH! NO McBush...Vote OBAMA
Obama's tax plan is the same as the one McCain paraded up and down Washington for the past 10 years. He just changed it 8 months ago. How else would you expect to pay for a war and the housing crash and the economy yada yada if you dont raise someone taxes. Better it be for people that can afford it and not people that cant pay their bills. Since when did sticking up for the little guy become a bad thing?
You Obama lovers are so oblivious to the fact that you're being so blatantly patronized. The party orchestrated and choreographed this. Vote Democrat and you vote to obliterate the middle class.
Those are the facts as the stand today. You cant come down hard on Joe Biden for speaking figuratively. He wasn't being literal. Secondly, Gov. Bill Richardson is the governor of New Mexico who ran against Obama in the primaries. He is not affiliated with Obama's campaign. McCainiatics have completely gone delusional.
Did you HEAR Richardson? If you didn't hear him, then you can listen to Biden say $150,000 is the cutoff. If you don't believe that, you can hear Obama's infomercial where he said $200,000. Also, you're forgetting about the social security withholding that they are going to take the ceiling off so that it will continue forever -- that's an extra 8 per cent. Would you be willing to give half of YOUR income away? I worked hard, got my degree and then put my husband through, how bout you????
Did you not hear Richardson or Biden? They were using those figures as analogies for middle to upper class and how they would get tax breaks.They werent saying they will be taxed more. They were examples of who would get tax breaks. goddamn.
The fact is his tax plan has never changed. Here it is again for the misinformed.
"There's no indication that Obama has changed his tax policy, which states that anyone making under $200,000 would get a tax cut under his administration, and nobody making under $250,000 would be hit with a tax increase. Richardson actually recited that part of Obama's plan correctly earlier in his radio interview."
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:
A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. (continued)
From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
This is the end of a 3-part comment, and an excellent word of warning from a great historical scholar about the dangers of becoming dependent upon a government, and expecting something for nothing.
Although what Richardson said is true, "What Obama wants to do is, he is basically looking at $120000 and under, among those that are in the middle class, and there is a tax cut for those." It shows that 120k falls WITHIN THAT 90% of those who WILL receive a tax CUT.
But the fact still remains that Obama HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY SAYING that if your under 250k, you WILL NOT HAVE A TAX INCREASE.
As the Obama campaign has been saying ALL ALONG, there are TWO MAGIC NUMBERS. 250k and under will NOT SEE A TAX INCREASE and 150K and under 90% of you WILL SEE A TAX CUT. Logically, if you make between 150k and 250k, you will have NO CHANGE.
And that 120k comment came from Governer Bill Richardson on a radio show and NOT FROM OBAMA.
rprec: you're a little exaggerated aren't you? Next you'll be telling us Obama is the great satan just like they said about the Pope and Ronald Reagan because both his first and last names had 6 letters. Come on now with the Revelations & Nostradamus dooms day prophecy's. You'll survive an Obama Presidency and maybe earn a little more along the way. Enough with the scare tactics already.
B. Hussein Osama is the single greatest threat to freedom, liberty, peace, truth and justice in the entire history of the world. if he were to gain power, it would set back these causes hundreds of years. vote for FREEDOM in the USA while we still have a chance! if elected, his Marxist goons will descend upon the land like a great plague that will cause pestilence and great evil upon the free people of the earth.
Think about it for a second...his whole campaign is being funded by the donations collected of GOP -he has alot of favors to return. And we the people sick of political 'closed door favors being traded back and forth"
I know I am. pssst right now Exxon.mobile make 1k a second... and that's after taxes.
in the 3 minutes it took to read this message they made 180K. and they pay less taxes percentage ratio then you do. Is that fair? Bush/ McCain think so. He wants to leave big business alone and help them more...Just the facts do with it what you will. But you were informed.
I'm a Chicagoan and I know B.O. stinks like B.O. from those he cavorts with. Chicago's corrupt politicians include him. He's a "created crony". Take a look at the movie The Candidate. It's like they took the plot and turned it into reality. He's made you all drink his KoolAid and bow down before him. The bubble is nice and shiny now, but if this dangerous yet clever hustler becomes President, and the bubble bursts, you have yourselves to blame. Prayer would be a good thing right about now.
Ummm, helloooo? Are you in there? What do you think corporations do to pay taxes? They include it in the price of their product, whether it's oil, cars, or whatever. The oil companies make less on a gallon of gas than the government does in this country, and yet they have to explore, drill, transport, and refine the gas. The government has to provide an address to send the money to, and then they, in their infinite wisdom, spread the money around. They do such a great job, dont they???
Psst, jaim12005, I'm glad ExxonMobile is succeeding. It is spurring the economy and creating jobs. What would happen if the likes of ExxonMobile fail? Another freaking bailout? More unemployment? Worse economy? I cannot for the life of me how you buy in to demonizing successful American companies. They freaking represent us, they create jobs for us, they create wealth for us that Obama wants to spread. If you have 401K, mutual funds, or IRA, take a good look who are in those prospectus.
I'm voting for Obama, but this video is absolutely correct. It went from under 250,000to 200,000, to 150,000 etc. But we cannot act like there are not any fallacies in McCain's plans either.
I saw obama on CNN friday saying that he is going to push the capitol gains tax from 15% to 20% on investments like your bank account CDs and stocks and bonds
THats going to make low income people lose so much money because CDs dont pay that much. He is basically going to take your interest you earn in your CDs and Savings account even if you only make 20k a year forget 120k incomes
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"The Incredible Shrinking Obama Tax Cut, 250K, 200K, 150K and then 120K, what a joke!
Bottom line is anyone who believe in Obama's tax cut promises are suckers!. If Obama becomes elected he will let Bush tax cuts expire and everybody's tax rates are going up to the Clinton levels regardless how much you make. Btw, if you're not paying income taxes (about 40% of Americans aren't) how can you get an income tax cut?
Yeah because the Clinton era (when republicans held the congress BTW) was our least profitable era. That really sucked for everyone. I hated every trip to bank I had to make. HAHAHA
oh yeah and just like whenever i say i'm not supporting obama i'm a racist. Wake up! Obama's policies are evil and they will be very detrimental to this country. Not to mention his friends are actual terrorists, racists, and kill whitey anti-americans!
hooseyadaddy: i never called u racist. your not a racist unless you object to Obama on the basis of race preference or bias. If you believe in republican philosophy, ur not a racist we just see the world through a different lens.
look how socialism really works in Cuba, China and others. It takes from the middle class and gives to rich - this is McCain's plan. Why do I have to have my money taken by the government to give to the rich when they're gonna get my money anyway since I'm buying their good and services. Reduce my taxes, I'll spend more, they'll make more, they'll get the money back that they were taxed on and then some. Get America's money moving again Obama!
I don't agree with you a bit. It works quite the opposite way. I am not voting for either candidate. I was for McCain at one point but since he ran such a horrible campaign it's better if I stay home. Obama is going to win. No question. You will see that what you're saying is wrong when Obama gets elected. I make decnet money and when my taxes go up I will pass that on to my consumers AND I am going to tighten my budget as well. I'm sure other rich individuals and corps will do the same.
what are you an idiot. How can u be against Obama but do nothing to stop him?In my opinion you are worse than an Obamabot. Cause you have lost the will to fight. "The only thing necesary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"-Edmund Burke...And yes Obama is EVIL
And your consumers will be able to spend more anyway, the point is to get the money moving. The country's economy is based on the movement of money, not amassed wealth. If it takes taxes to move the money, then I'm sorry but that's the unfortunate economic system of this country especially in an economic downturn. We need the forced movement of money to pull us out of this. Its a horrific situation! But unfortunately its the one we're in.
You said it, and they deserve him, (I don't) idiots, empty headed robots. My grandfather had an 8th grade education and by today's standards that's higher than a graduate degree....Look at all the economic geniuses, how many saw the mortgage meltdown coming? Not one. I'm older but the young people of our country will have to live with this decision for a long, long, time. We may never recover back to capitalism if Obama wins. I don't even like McCain that much, but he will keep us safe.
Obama's site says that those that make less than $250,000 will not see an increase. Those making less than $200,000 will see a tax cut. $120,000 is below $200,000. What's your point.
Actually, I checked this information out and flkeys409 is right. The hearing is scheduled for November 18th and Obama will be compelled to produce a CERTIFIED copy of his birth certificate at that time. Unfortunately, Nobama is a slippery guy who, with the help of his attorneys, can "side step" some of the most important issues of the campaign. To date, however, no official certified copy of Nobama's birth certificate (without photoshop markings on it) has been produced.
Ok, obviously you're an idiot. McCain is a "natural" born because both his parents are citizens of the U.S. No matter where you are born, end of story. Maybe you should try reading the Constitution.
The Federal Election Commission, the US Attorney General, the POTUS, the director of the FBI, the US Congress, the US Senate, and any number of public officials have certified Obama's citizenship status by their silence. Any one of those peoples have the soapbox to make this a national issue and they haven't. Why don't you delusional crackpots explain why these offices remain silent?
BRAVO SIERRA!!! By virtue of his candidacy, the Federal Election Commission has certified Obama's residency requirements. He is under no obligation to anything to the deranged, 'cause let's admit, you'll NEVER be satisfied. This isn't about his qualifications, it's about your treasonous desire to subvert a future US President.
"The provision establishes the burden of proof in expatriation proceedings where nationality is put in issue. In such a case, the Act places the burden of proving loss of citizenship upon the person or party claiming that such loss occurred."
BERG v OBAMA
Did you actually bother to read the briefing, or did you just get the crib notes from Limbaugh/Hannity/Drudge?
"Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino(State of Hawaii)said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate."
Barack Hussein Obama II was born on August 4, 1961 on the island of Oahu in the state of Hawaii, in Honolulu.
I understand some people absolutely hate Obama, it's in their nature. What I don't understand is why they expect sensible people to believe them.
obama HAS NOT EVEN MENTIONED CUTTING SPENDING!Cutting spending and reigning in this out of control empire is the ONLY way we can turn around our economy/p.s. bill richardson is human excrement who sexually harrases waitresses at zany's in albuquerque im told
If you're supporting obama because of his tax cuts, realize that any tax gains you may receive from the government will be taken from companies who pass on the taxes to the consumer, so, guess what - you're paying more for the stuff you bought! Bye bye wellfare check.
you're a douchtard... he'll give tax cuts only to the people that work. take those fingers out of you stupid hears so you can hear. n instead n you can stick them up your ass!!
Be careful what you wish for 'cause you just might get it:A class war courtesy of Jumpy Joe"Take your mon-ay"Biden,a race war courtesy of Mi$helle"u-cracker-u"Obama,& a dumbing down of America from Nobama.Those Americans who work their asses off to support their families,keep kids in college&have the nerve to care for elderly parents should be ashamed to earn that evil $120,000-250,000.However,they will absolutely not pay 1 more cent to a corrupt Nobama government.Free money=not going to happen.
Obviously Obama and his cronies/handlers do not have a clue what they are doing otherwise there would be a firm number and everyone would be on the same page. There would be no 250k, 200k, 150k, 120k, and who knows how much lower it will go. If we elect Obama hold on to your wallets, your homes, your cars, and your first born as he Obama is coming to get them to give to the less fortunate!!
Dude, calling me gay isn't offensive. And I wouldn't insult Jarheads by calling you the average Jarhead. Two of my friends were Marines. I know smart Jarheads, but you're subpar.
Admit it, you didn't even realize straight people could support gay people, you know you're intelligence is well below average, you haven't done shit since you got out and you'll never have a high paying job.
I knew plenty of guys like you when I was in, you couldn't keep a civilian job because they would FIRE you! I made E-5 in three years had 3 types of bonus pay, and got into a University with a 6% acceptance rate when I got out, you want to call me little kid names?
And white people that supported black people during the civil rights movement were actually black. Oh! I'm not a homophobe!
I'm using my GI bill, why don't you use yours. Seriously dude, you sound like you have the intelligence of a 12 year old. You can't even put a coherent sentence together, rofl!
What's sad is you don't even know how much an Obama presidency would help and you'd let McCain help companies rape you if there weren't smarter people out there to get Obama elected. ftw
I can't wait for this election to be over! I'm so tired of seeing Obama propoganda everywhere 24/7. I can't even take a five minute break to check the top youtube videos, because Obama's unproportionately loyal servants are so busy cheating and gaming the youtube system to fill up half the page. It's ridiculous. I'm done with youtube, who has been letting it happen! I agree with fifty cent though. I believe someone will take him out, anyway.
Obama's proposals are as socialistic as they come. Read Karl Marx's Manifesto. Obama can call it spreading the wealth, redistribution whatever pretty face he wants to put on it, it's still socialism and class warfare. He will set racial division back 50 years, it has already begun. The crazy white supremecy skin heads will begin to kill the blacks anywhere they can find them and blacks will
Be careful what you ask for, who's going to save France, Germany, Iraq, Kuwait, etc. the next time?
Yeah!! Don't have to worry about paying your mortgage because Obama is going to tax the living daylights out of everyone with money in this country and give it to all of those who want to stay at home and not do anything!!!
Wow, that sums it up perfectly. You must have came to this conclusion after careful study, weighing both candidates merits. You should be applauded for your intelligent insight.
Thank the butchery that Bush and the suits @ Wall St + Banks for having to Tax anyone making over 120K someone has to clean up the mess and be an adult about responsibility and accountability right?
Historically, the closer the election, the more the problems (JFK/W. Bush). Want to avoid another close election? See the Don't worry, be happy clip by Musicians4Obama and help it surface!
You should vote Obama. He understands the importance of education and maybe he will do something that will allow you to take those English classes you so sorely need.
The McCains do donate & Cindy has volunteered for 20+ years. Obama accepted a $265 campaign donation from his Aunt living in public housing. And yes, he does have a net worth of more than $1 mil. You think maybe he could afford to help her out? What about his brother living in an African slum? I thought charity was supposed to begin at home. I guess Obama doesn't need to give his own $ so long as he taxes the rest of us. Stop watching the ads & read more than CNN news, you might learn something.
Go McCain/Palin! You can beat this redistributor of wealth wannabe. Why doesn't Obama redistribute some of his own wealth to his impoverished aunt and brother?! Oh, yeah, I forgot, he wants to redistribute OTHER PEOPLE'S wealth.
Historically, the closer the election, the more the problems (JFK/W. Bush). Want to avoid another close election? See the Don't worry, be happy clip by Musicians4Obama and help it surface!
ROFL. I can make a website with calculator too, how great. Since I've never once in my life voted for a tax cut at the state or local levels, I have SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH OBAMA AND EQUAL CREDIBILITY
You don't "confuse" $250,000 and $120,000. Sounds like someone just had a policy, er OWN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, meeting. ROFL
You're right! Obama has one answer, Biden has another and Richardson has yet another. That number is moving further and further south..
Soon he'll have Jesse Jackson on the stump saying all those who make less than $25K will get a tax cut- Luckily for him that will include his poor aunt and brother and he can finally say that he lent them a helping hand
well unfortunatly hes wrong because obamas plan is a 200,000 dollar and lower tax cut. PLUS, im in the 250,000 ransge and my taxes will only raise about 900 dollars. My parents make 250,000.its not going to put them in the crapper.
Nice right-wing slogans, but they are just slogans, and Not what Lincoln meant. It does not "Destroy" the rich to move tax rates back to less than what they were under Nixon and to the same or less than under Reagan. Obviously McCain thinks Reagan was a (so-called) "socialist" What nonsense.Enough Bush/McCain class war against the middle class and then calling anyone who wants to undo that a "class warrior" Stop McCain redistribution away from the middle class. Return to tax sanity. Go Obama08
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Debates it was 250K, on his totally humiliating *infomercial* it's now 200K then Biden says 150K yesterday. The sheep need to realize they are getting NOTHING!!! His own family lives in squalor, it's all about his self gain. He doesn't give a shit about most Americans. He doesn't even like America. He's just like his *pals*. He wants to live in the White house and use our tax dollars. Well he won't get a cent of mine if he wins.
So-you are equating Mccain to Hitler? Hmm We know a heck of a lot more about Mccain than Barrack Obama. I do not recall Mccain advocating Jewish hatred or the elimination of Jews. He has always been very pro-Israel. On the other hand, you have Rev. Wright and his anti-Jewish remarks. Now, we have endorsements from Hamas and Al Quaeda supporting Obama. Obviously, Obama is much closer to Hitler than Mccain. I am not being idiotic like you and calling Obama Hitler, but his endorsers are antisemite
Your logic humors me. I'm almost laughing as much as I laughed listening to the prank call taken by Palin. But how do you figure. Obama advocates hatred of Jews by association. But McCain doesn't advocate hatred of Catholics by Association (referring to Hage), or Palin doesn't advocate hatred of non-believers by association. The association battles is why Repubicans are losing this year.
No I most certainly was not comparing McCain to Hitler. I was pointing out that voting for someone on the basis that they fought in a war is a very poor method of deciding. It lead to one of the worst guys in the world getting in charge of a country.
Both McCain and Obama are just fine on the Israel topic with perhaps one point against McCain. One of the biggest threats to Israel is is the bad guys get one of the Russian nukes. Obama was ahead on this.
Thats why it took Obama three days to comment on the Gerogia/Russia conflict and Obama pretty much repeated what McCain said. Personally I would rather have McCain, a man tested and tried for years of torture and yet didn't sell out our country than Obmama that has not made one executive decision...This is one of MANY reason McCain is a far better choice.
levi760:in all fairness, even moderate,conservative's and far right republicans admit that McCain's response to issue's were impulsive and erratic. "he's suspending his campaign, rushing to washington, canceling debates, fundamentals of the economy r strong, picking Palin without vetting". Just because he "God forbid" suffered torture doesn't make him best choice for president,r all the other soldiers better equipped to be president also or do we need a decisive intellect in the white house.
While Obama's statements on Georgia / Russia did contain most of the same letters and some of the same words as McCain's Obama's response was a very different one from McCain's initial one. Also Obama responded much sooner than the 3 day number you suggest.
Bill Richardson made a gaffe. Woo big deal. If you don't understand the facts of Obama's plan yet, you're never going to. $250,000 or more, your taxes go up. $200,000 or less, your taxes go down. $200,000 to $250,000 and you'll see no change.
Hmmm-did he really make a gaffe or is this Obama's plan after he is elected? Lets see-he will say "I did not realize that the economy that George Bush left me was in such bad shape-so I have no choice to raise taxes on people who are making $120,000." Then, a month later he will say "I have tried very hard to overcome the devestation from the Bush tax cuts so I must raise taxes on people making $60,000 or more." etc.. Remember-Bill Clinton is now teaching him.;-)
Yeah and last night I had these ghosts knocking on my door...are you really that paranoid? That's the equivalent of people on the left thinking George Bush planned 9/11 so he'd have a reason to go into Iraq. No president will commit the folly of George HW Bush, and raise taxes after saying the won't. Obama would more likely run up a debt than do that.
Hussein Obama wants to give our hard earn money to welfare recipients and illegal immigrants. This is called Communism and trickle up poverty. Frighting.
Hussein Obama in the Senate voted to tax people who only made $42,000 dollars. He will tax everyone to pay for his radical socialistic programs like the Global Poverty Act which would send 845 billion dollars to Africa. That's more then the 700 billion dollar bailout. We can't afford this guy.
Historicaly, the closer the election, the more the problems (JFK/W. Bush). Want to avoid another close election? See the Don't worry, be happy clip by Musicians4Obama and help it surface!
Exploiting these slips and gaffes doesn't change the real deal. The plan is still no tax increase for those making $250k and less. If you make more than $150k you're in the top 5% of the nation's earners. This economy is not going to recover if the middle class doesn't get relief.
No-brainer. Obama has been talking about no tax increases below $250k. Tax cuts for a segment is a different topic. No inconsistency. In fact, additional good news for those under $120k. To summarize, no increases below $250k, possible decreases below $120k. Next topic, please...
I hope people realize that, by saying that those making $120k or less are middle class and will receive a tax cut, Richardson is NOT saying that those making between $120k and $250k will receive a tax increase. Lets get past all the fallacious spin, eh?
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LunayyYasminaa53 9 months ago
Corporate CEOS and executives do not represent the interests of shareholders.They do not represent the interests of employeesThey do not represent the interest of the community and other exterenal stakeholders to the company..They only represent themselves..They work to buy themselves fancy company jets, big executive retreats at resorts, huge corporate executivie salaries. The average CEO makes 500 times what the regular employee earns...
hbsegura 2 years ago
New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson abandoned his nomination to become commerce secretary under pressure of a grand jury investigation into a state contract awarded to his political donors
wiferachel 3 years ago
Richardson went out on record almost immediately and stated that this figure was a mistake.
Why in the fuck are there still videos like this still going around with people moaning and groaning?
Here's a tip for you people.
If you're getting all your political info from youtube........
YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.
ilovesaskia1 3 years ago
ilovesaskia1--shit forbid someone says something about obama i think i want your IP ,i,m a little pissed that trolls like you are on the internet so much ,i just want to see where your located,a govt office i bet ,we will see in a little bit every comment so far has been u gobbling on obamas knob ,let have a better look at you shall we
NotOurCause 3 years ago
You got fooled by a snake oil salesman
LORDOFMUFF 3 years ago
i hear people asking........where's my check, and the man isnt even in the white house yet! greedy, lazy people is what got us here! f u c k a ll of t h em!!!
jradai 3 years ago
my husband makes 90k, i make 30k, we worked hard to get where we are. we have 5 kids and save for their college and save also for our retirement. Why did people elect Obama when he is destroying the American Dream for people who reach out and actually take that opportunity from them? he is going to take it and give it to those who dont try as hard as we did. Its not fair and im sick and tired of some people excited about the money they are going to get from us! We are living in awful times..
jradai 3 years ago
jradai: please, get informed...your joint income is 120k. what r u talking about "Obama taking money from you", lets see if you'll come back and post here when your tax accountant tells you your taxes are less because the government gave you a tax break...and who's asking for checks? ur totally self righteous to think you work harder than the next person or group, u have no idea how hard people are working. So step down out of your ivory tower because the world simply doesn't work like that.
StarMatter774 3 years ago
Not an ivory tower to notice the laziness and greed of the ones that will be picking our pockets. Trust me..what the limit is now on income to be taxed will be lower and lower.You'll be bitching soon too!
HammockTimeNow 3 years ago
hammock:i wasn't addressing you but i'll speak to it anyway.
you're a "HATER" and i'll tell you why. You have no actual proof and your allegations are anecdotal at best, your riding the rhetoric of that right wing network FOXNews whom r cowards for disappearing know that the People have shut there mouth. Bill Richards is a support not a spokes person or surrogate of Obama's.
StarMatter774 3 years ago
Star, so now you are telling me I don't have an opinion? And insulting me to boot...I vote, live and pay taxes (lots of them) in the US...so I have an opinion, whether you agree or not.I truly don't care.
Obviously, we hit a chord about laziness...sigh
HammockTimeNow 3 years ago
Hammock: "Obviously, we hit a chord about laziness...sigh"
yea right, a dissonant chord of tacit bigotry.
I know it hurts...but just breath, deep breaths...there you go.
Other's have had to deal with the disappointment you feel all their lives, i'm here to tell ya...you learn to live with things. You'll be alright.
Join the rest of us in trying to transcend racism altogether.
Blacks,Whites,Hispanic,Asian,Christian,Jew and yes even Muslim.Not all of any group is the same,there are nuance's.
StarMatter774 3 years ago
jradai, if your figures are true, you make about the same as my wife and I. We have four kids, you have 5 so you would get an extra exemptions and our deductions probably are in the same neighborhood but not mirror images. I went and researched both tax plans. Under McCain's my family would get about another $800 back. Under Obama'a, we will get just over $1400 back. Our families are actually going to come out ahead on Obama'a plan.
tgear77 3 years ago
Mayor Bloomberg, NYC Mayor is raising NYC Income taxes on people making $50,000 to $70,000 a year. Does anyone have any idea what the cost of living is in NYC????
Srhandel 3 years ago
OBAMA 08'
StarMatter774 3 years ago
Always bet on black!
Obama 'o8 and 2o12!
VAR1UM 3 years ago
StarMatter774: Please identify the areas that this administration has failed that you want an Obama presidency to turnaround. If you examine each point, you will find that there are many areas that Obama will continue the same direction, exacerbate them, or completely make things worse.
kusamabo 3 years ago
kusamabo:i think for the most part the case has been laid out over the past two years for everyone to examine and today the jury deliberates and hopefully tonight we'll have a verdict.
I mean really, Iraq was a mistake and handled terribly, the economy is shot, bush's attitude of unilateralism on the global front, millions of americans without healthcare.
I would argue that you're more in a position to have to make a case for Bush/McCain, why should we stay the course?
OBAMA 08'
StarMatter774 3 years ago
StarMatter774, as much as you'd like to believe what the media has been feeding you, McCain represents more of divergent from Bush's policies than Obama's plans. McCain will reduce government spending, Obama will increase it. McCain's tax plan will maintain and create jobs, Obama's will destroy job creation (I know this first hand). McCain's Healthcare plan is unorthodox, however, Obama's will stymie the industry and increase government spending.
IRAQ: The surge is working, Obama denies it.
kusamabo 3 years ago
kusamabo: I'm sorry, you've just made a completely subjective argument. So let me get this right, your view is the only correct view and all of us on the flip side of the argument are some how duped and unintelligent? McCain keeps talking about the surge working in a war that we should have never waged. We lost Tons of life and capital. Did they ever find those W.M.D.'s? Nope! What Allies, all the men dying in iraq are from the USA, if we had help, are economy wouldn't be strained 10B/mn.
OBAMA'
StarMatter774 3 years ago
kusamabo: With all due respect, you may have your on delusion's to question with more scrutiny.
OBAMA 08'
StarMatter774 3 years ago
StartMatter774, Call it subjective but I assess potential policies to determine how they would impact my business and my employees. I find Obama's far less appealing to my business than McCain's. I do not believe my position is unique. If you are in a position to make decisions that would impact the livelihood of others I would be more than willing to entertain your opposing arguments.
With regard to WMD, do you remember the climate of that time and the bravado exhibited by Saddam Hussein?
kusamabo 3 years ago
Google "IRAQ Coalition" for more info on other countries who joined us.
kusamabo 3 years ago
kusamabo: ok i googled "irag coalition" and the stats tell me only Great Britain has lost not even 5% of the deaths our US soldiers have sustained, not even mention over 30,000 americans wounded and thousands of other american soldier's have contracted disease's. 10 Billion a month and no allies giving financial help in the effort. There's no ginuine coalition on iraq, they're going along out of obligation not conviction.Maybe you're over that 250k and good for you but this is about the whole.
StarMatter774 3 years ago
McCain is a lousy campaigner, Obama is a great campaigner. However, McCain's plans are better than Obama under closer scrutiny.
kusamabo 3 years ago
StarMatter774, also regarding your reference to Bush's perceived unilateral actions, aren't you forgetting all our allies who have been with us all along? Who do you want us to get permission before we act to protect ourselves and our interests? Russia? China? Iran? Germany? France?
kusamabo 3 years ago
We most certainly are no more assured that McCain will fulfill what little campaign promises he's ran on but if you have doubt about the tax threshold with obama, look at it this way:
The working people have a better chance in general with Obama's general philosophy than with McCain and the republican pro Corporation's.
OBAMA 08'
StarMatter774 3 years ago
StarMatter774, you need to clear the stars floating around your head. If you examine Obama's domestic and foreign programs, the tax cut you think you will be getting will really be a drain in your wallet. If you have ever been to a casino, let's just say Obama is the house. Some of you may think you have won, in reality, the whole nation loses.
Regarding corporations: Which candidate received corporate donations 4 to 1 over the other? Obama received more donations than McCain. Why is that?
kusamabo 3 years ago
kusamabo:Independent economist have concluded that the middle class will get more tax cuts under Obama's plan, now unless you are a PHD of world class calibre i'll go with the diagnosis of the scholarly economist and Warren Buffet.
No corporations are responsible for Obama's campaign finance, we the people financed him ourselve's and have broken records in doing so. Maybe you should behold the "stars floating around my head" and join us in our trance.
OBAMA 08'
StarMatter774 3 years ago
StarMatter: No thanks. I like to keep a clear head and stay away from hallucinogens.
In situ, you may get your tax cut, but if you look at the big picture, taking into account the big programs that Obama has in mind, do you really think that the wealth of the top 5% American earners can support them?
You are quite naive to think that corporations have not contributed to the candidates' campaigns. Corporate campaign contributions are made in various forms.
kusamabo 3 years ago
Kusamabo:i'm well aware of the no brainer argument about Obama's hands being tied as a result of the ditch the past republican administration has left us in, however we can't continue down a similar path with McCain. It's a clear choice whether you want america to work from the top-down or the BOTTOM-UP.
OBAMA 08'
StarMatter774 3 years ago
StarMatter774, please drop the talking points and tell me what exactly is the path this administration is heading that you want Obama to divert us from? Can you please articulate in your own words what you want from an Obama presidency?
kusamabo 3 years ago
kusamabo: in short, what i want from an Obama presidency is a 180 degree about face from Bush just like the majority of American's based on public opinion. When talking point's become synonymous with popular consensus, the opposition's territory is vulnerable, thats why Obama can afford to be challenging Republican strongholds. No question, this election could go either way but it is also clear that general consensus has leaned toward CHANGE from the last 8 yrs.
OBAMA 08'
StarMatter774 3 years ago
as for OBAMA and his tax cuts.. ..the facts are out there... IF a gop red supporter say it often enough on the conservative radio and on Faux news it automatically becomes true in thier narrow minds. I suggest that they consider the source for the 250,000th time.
and google for facts objectively.
If they choose not to..that is their right...this is America.
They have the right to remain ignorant.
jaim12005 3 years ago
it's a bit more complex than that sweetie...and let me correct you the oil companies make 1k a second - are you new here?
You really don't want to debate EPA, Delta and other enviromental agencies with me? Not to mention the clean air act taxes we pay on everything from per gallon to inspections special noozles tanks etc. I don't think you do. All the while the Oil companies are shifting the cost to the station dealers since 2000- There are fewer company owned and more fes for everything.
jaim12005 3 years ago
Up to and including a mulitude of fees and taxes they pass on to the owners of these stations and teh consumer. They have the goverment kicking back truck loads of money for exploration, drill, transport, and refine the gas. Did you know that they too have passed the refining part on to Jobbers as well delivering the gas to the stations so you can bitch to the workers how THEY are ripping you off. The Oil companies has managed tohave their cake and eat it too. THX BUSH! NO McBush...Vote OBAMA
jaim12005 3 years ago
Obama's tax plan is the same as the one McCain paraded up and down Washington for the past 10 years. He just changed it 8 months ago. How else would you expect to pay for a war and the housing crash and the economy yada yada if you dont raise someone taxes. Better it be for people that can afford it and not people that cant pay their bills. Since when did sticking up for the little guy become a bad thing?
VAR1UM 3 years ago
You Obama lovers are so oblivious to the fact that you're being so blatantly patronized. The party orchestrated and choreographed this. Vote Democrat and you vote to obliterate the middle class.
knouraee 3 years ago
Obama's tax plan. For real.
$25o,ooo + a year= 3% increase
$2oo,ooo to $25o,ooo= no change
$2oo,ooo and less a year= Tax cuts
Those are the facts as the stand today. You cant come down hard on Joe Biden for speaking figuratively. He wasn't being literal. Secondly, Gov. Bill Richardson is the governor of New Mexico who ran against Obama in the primaries. He is not affiliated with Obama's campaign. McCainiatics have completely gone delusional.
VAR1UM 3 years ago
Increase taxes for people who make more money? Typical Democrat thievery. People with money are the ones who hire the ones who don't have it.
Have you ever worked for someone who's poor?
knouraee 3 years ago
Did you HEAR Richardson? If you didn't hear him, then you can listen to Biden say $150,000 is the cutoff. If you don't believe that, you can hear Obama's infomercial where he said $200,000. Also, you're forgetting about the social security withholding that they are going to take the ceiling off so that it will continue forever -- that's an extra 8 per cent. Would you be willing to give half of YOUR income away? I worked hard, got my degree and then put my husband through, how bout you????
familyforfreedom 3 years ago
Did you not hear Richardson or Biden? They were using those figures as analogies for middle to upper class and how they would get tax breaks.They werent saying they will be taxed more. They were examples of who would get tax breaks. goddamn.
The fact is his tax plan has never changed. Here it is again for the misinformed.
25o,ooo and over = 3% increase
2oo,ooo to 25o,oook = No tax change
under 2oo,ooo = tax cut
Why is this so hard to understand.
VAR1UM 3 years ago
re: VAR1UM
FOX NEWS:
"There's no indication that Obama has changed his tax policy, which states that anyone making under $200,000 would get a tax cut under his administration, and nobody making under $250,000 would be hit with a tax increase. Richardson actually recited that part of Obama's plan correctly earlier in his radio interview."
elections. foxnews. com/ 2008/10/31/low-richardson-pegs-middle-class-making/
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greyflcn 3 years ago
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:
A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. (continued)
beaglenuts55 3 years ago
From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. from bondage to spiritual faith;
beaglenuts55 3 years ago
2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
3. from courage to liberty;
4. from liberty to abundance;
5. from abundance to complacency;
6. from complacency to apathy;
7. from apathy to dependence;
8. from dependence back into bondage
This is the end of a 3-part comment, and an excellent word of warning from a great historical scholar about the dangers of becoming dependent upon a government, and expecting something for nothing.
beaglenuts55 3 years ago
why vote for obama. hes gonna get shot in the head anyways.
CReaper210 3 years ago
Although what Richardson said is true, "What Obama wants to do is, he is basically looking at $120000 and under, among those that are in the middle class, and there is a tax cut for those." It shows that 120k falls WITHIN THAT 90% of those who WILL receive a tax CUT.
But the fact still remains that Obama HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY SAYING that if your under 250k, you WILL NOT HAVE A TAX INCREASE.
Joeviocoe 3 years ago
As the Obama campaign has been saying ALL ALONG, there are TWO MAGIC NUMBERS. 250k and under will NOT SEE A TAX INCREASE and 150K and under 90% of you WILL SEE A TAX CUT. Logically, if you make between 150k and 250k, you will have NO CHANGE.
And that 120k comment came from Governer Bill Richardson on a radio show and NOT FROM OBAMA.
Joeviocoe 3 years ago
rprec: you're a little exaggerated aren't you? Next you'll be telling us Obama is the great satan just like they said about the Pope and Ronald Reagan because both his first and last names had 6 letters. Come on now with the Revelations & Nostradamus dooms day prophecy's. You'll survive an Obama Presidency and maybe earn a little more along the way. Enough with the scare tactics already.
OBAMA 08'
StarMatter774 3 years ago
B. Hussein Osama is the single greatest threat to freedom, liberty, peace, truth and justice in the entire history of the world. if he were to gain power, it would set back these causes hundreds of years. vote for FREEDOM in the USA while we still have a chance! if elected, his Marxist goons will descend upon the land like a great plague that will cause pestilence and great evil upon the free people of the earth.
rprec 3 years ago
I don't understand.
mattjblythe01 3 years ago
Think about it for a second...his whole campaign is being funded by the donations collected of GOP -he has alot of favors to return. And we the people sick of political 'closed door favors being traded back and forth"
I know I am. pssst right now Exxon.mobile make 1k a second... and that's after taxes.
jaim12005 3 years ago
in the 3 minutes it took to read this message they made 180K. and they pay less taxes percentage ratio then you do. Is that fair? Bush/ McCain think so. He wants to leave big business alone and help them more...Just the facts do with it what you will. But you were informed.
jaim12005 3 years ago
I'm a Chicagoan and I know B.O. stinks like B.O. from those he cavorts with. Chicago's corrupt politicians include him. He's a "created crony". Take a look at the movie The Candidate. It's like they took the plot and turned it into reality. He's made you all drink his KoolAid and bow down before him. The bubble is nice and shiny now, but if this dangerous yet clever hustler becomes President, and the bubble bursts, you have yourselves to blame. Prayer would be a good thing right about now.
shrumpiedoodles 3 years ago
Ummm, helloooo? Are you in there? What do you think corporations do to pay taxes? They include it in the price of their product, whether it's oil, cars, or whatever. The oil companies make less on a gallon of gas than the government does in this country, and yet they have to explore, drill, transport, and refine the gas. The government has to provide an address to send the money to, and then they, in their infinite wisdom, spread the money around. They do such a great job, dont they???
familyforfreedom 3 years ago
Psst, jaim12005, I'm glad ExxonMobile is succeeding. It is spurring the economy and creating jobs. What would happen if the likes of ExxonMobile fail? Another freaking bailout? More unemployment? Worse economy? I cannot for the life of me how you buy in to demonizing successful American companies. They freaking represent us, they create jobs for us, they create wealth for us that Obama wants to spread. If you have 401K, mutual funds, or IRA, take a good look who are in those prospectus.
kusamabo 3 years ago
Get out your Checkbooks people, The TaxMan cometh!
leftwingwacko 3 years ago
yeah and McCain wants to stay the course...
hmmm that rings a bell..
OHH yah BUSH..
nevermind.
I will gladly pay a little more to help turn this economy around and see big businesses held accountable for the taxes should be paying.
jaim12005 3 years ago
A close election? Check out the clip by Musicians4Obama and pass it on
Anticommunists4Obama 3 years ago
I'm voting for Obama, but this video is absolutely correct. It went from under 250,000to 200,000, to 150,000 etc. But we cannot act like there are not any fallacies in McCain's plans either.
bluepointparis 3 years ago
Bigots, racists and neocon nutjobs- vote McCain
Everyone else- vote Obama
skinnydaddyjoe 3 years ago
Go to his website to see the facts!
OBAMA 08'
Get out and VOTE!
StarMatter774 3 years ago
amazing 120k next it will be $75k
I saw obama on CNN friday saying that he is going to push the capitol gains tax from 15% to 20% on investments like your bank account CDs and stocks and bonds
THats going to make low income people lose so much money because CDs dont pay that much. He is basically going to take your interest you earn in your CDs and Savings account even if you only make 20k a year forget 120k incomes
HeroOrAZero 3 years ago
Google: Obama and...
ACORN, Alwaleed bin Talal, Ayers, Barry Soetoro, vs. Berg, Bernie Sanders, The New Black Panthers, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Cloward-Piven Strategy, Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), Donald Warden, Emil Jones, Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac, Farrakhan, Frank Marshall Davis, Franklin Raines, George Soros, Jim Johnson, Khalidi, Khalid al-Mansour, Malcom X, Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, Raila Odinga, Rezko, Saul Alinski, Woods Fund, Wright / Unity Trinity Church
zzx2847 3 years ago
lol all of these groups combined are not half as bad as conservatives are for the world!
SilverPheonix360 3 years ago
"The Incredible Shrinking Obama Tax Cut, 250K, 200K, 150K and then 120K, what a joke!
Bottom line is anyone who believe in Obama's tax cut promises are suckers!. If Obama becomes elected he will let Bush tax cuts expire and everybody's tax rates are going up to the Clinton levels regardless how much you make. Btw, if you're not paying income taxes (about 40% of Americans aren't) how can you get an income tax cut?
UU238 3 years ago
Yeah because the Clinton era (when republicans held the congress BTW) was our least profitable era. That really sucked for everyone. I hated every trip to bank I had to make. HAHAHA
godmals 3 years ago
Yea right, anyone who disagree's with you is evil. Some people in this country never change.
OBAMA 08'
StarMatter774 3 years ago
oh yeah and just like whenever i say i'm not supporting obama i'm a racist. Wake up! Obama's policies are evil and they will be very detrimental to this country. Not to mention his friends are actual terrorists, racists, and kill whitey anti-americans!
hooseyadaddy 3 years ago
hooseyadaddy: i never called u racist. your not a racist unless you object to Obama on the basis of race preference or bias. If you believe in republican philosophy, ur not a racist we just see the world through a different lens.
OBAMA 08'
StarMatter774 3 years ago
the republican lens is covered in innocent blood.
SilverPheonix360 3 years ago
look how socialism really works in Cuba, China and others. It takes from the middle class and gives to rich - this is McCain's plan. Why do I have to have my money taken by the government to give to the rich when they're gonna get my money anyway since I'm buying their good and services. Reduce my taxes, I'll spend more, they'll make more, they'll get the money back that they were taxed on and then some. Get America's money moving again Obama!
godmals 3 years ago
I don't agree with you a bit. It works quite the opposite way. I am not voting for either candidate. I was for McCain at one point but since he ran such a horrible campaign it's better if I stay home. Obama is going to win. No question. You will see that what you're saying is wrong when Obama gets elected. I make decnet money and when my taxes go up I will pass that on to my consumers AND I am going to tighten my budget as well. I'm sure other rich individuals and corps will do the same.
OreoCookieOreo 3 years ago
what are you an idiot. How can u be against Obama but do nothing to stop him?In my opinion you are worse than an Obamabot. Cause you have lost the will to fight. "The only thing necesary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"-Edmund Burke...And yes Obama is EVIL
hooseyadaddy 3 years ago
And your consumers will be able to spend more anyway, the point is to get the money moving. The country's economy is based on the movement of money, not amassed wealth. If it takes taxes to move the money, then I'm sorry but that's the unfortunate economic system of this country especially in an economic downturn. We need the forced movement of money to pull us out of this. Its a horrific situation! But unfortunately its the one we're in.
godmals 3 years ago
the fact is that it will be down to the REAL number ($42,000) right after the election if he wins, SUCKERS!!!!
TyredUvBS 3 years ago
The nobama morons just don't get that...they are way too stupid to comprehend Carter-like lies from this dude. oh well.
jeffwads 3 years ago
You said it, and they deserve him, (I don't) idiots, empty headed robots. My grandfather had an 8th grade education and by today's standards that's higher than a graduate degree....Look at all the economic geniuses, how many saw the mortgage meltdown coming? Not one. I'm older but the young people of our country will have to live with this decision for a long, long, time. We may never recover back to capitalism if Obama wins. I don't even like McCain that much, but he will keep us safe.
kgalland1956 3 years ago
Actually my father works in the Mortgage business, and he saw it coming years ago. Many saw it coming but it was too late to do anything.
BrOckL33 3 years ago
Obama's site says that those that make less than $250,000 will not see an increase. Those making less than $200,000 will see a tax cut. $120,000 is below $200,000. What's your point.
rjvih 3 years ago
State Of Hawaii Backs Andy Martin In Obama Birth Certificate Battle
November 1, 2008
(HONOLULU)(November 1, 2008) Internet powerhouse Andy Martin has ignited a firestorm in Hawaii over Barack Obama's bogus "original" birth certificate.
CNN factcheck Obama all caught lying and the birth certificate on Obama's website that was removed was indeed a FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
flkeys409 3 years ago 2
ok, this is two videos you are putting this on and I bet its there will be more. This is spam.
Poeple copy what he said, and look it up, its a bunch of right wing lies.
also Obamas Birth Certificate still on his site.
please just get over it and GO VOTE
masterhook 3 years ago
Actually, I checked this information out and flkeys409 is right. The hearing is scheduled for November 18th and Obama will be compelled to produce a CERTIFIED copy of his birth certificate at that time. Unfortunately, Nobama is a slippery guy who, with the help of his attorneys, can "side step" some of the most important issues of the campaign. To date, however, no official certified copy of Nobama's birth certificate (without photoshop markings on it) has been produced.
beaglenuts55 3 years ago
Okay lets pretend Obama was born outside of the U.S.
Where does that place John McCains eligibility having been born outside the U.S in the country of Panama?
crocodile2006 3 years ago
Ok, obviously you're an idiot. McCain is a "natural" born because both his parents are citizens of the U.S. No matter where you are born, end of story. Maybe you should try reading the Constitution.
hooseyadaddy 3 years ago
"...Obama will be compelled to produce..."
The Federal Election Commission, the US Attorney General, the POTUS, the director of the FBI, the US Congress, the US Senate, and any number of public officials have certified Obama's citizenship status by their silence. Any one of those peoples have the soapbox to make this a national issue and they haven't. Why don't you delusional crackpots explain why these offices remain silent?
HINT: It's because you're smoking crack.
taodepaul311 3 years ago
"...on official certified copy..."
BRAVO SIERRA!!! By virtue of his candidacy, the Federal Election Commission has certified Obama's residency requirements. He is under no obligation to anything to the deranged, 'cause let's admit, you'll NEVER be satisfied. This isn't about his qualifications, it's about your treasonous desire to subvert a future US President.
taodepaul311 3 years ago
"...be compelled to produce..."
"The provision establishes the burden of proof in expatriation proceedings where nationality is put in issue. In such a case, the Act places the burden of proving loss of citizenship upon the person or party claiming that such loss occurred."
BERG v OBAMA
Did you actually bother to read the briefing, or did you just get the crib notes from Limbaugh/Hannity/Drudge?
This case has no merits.
taodepaul311 3 years ago
He's not worried about his U.S. Citizenship status, he's worried that it states he's an Arab on his birth certificate....lol...
kgalland1956 3 years ago
"Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino(State of Hawaii)said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate."
Barack Hussein Obama II was born on August 4, 1961 on the island of Oahu in the state of Hawaii, in Honolulu.
I understand some people absolutely hate Obama, it's in their nature. What I don't understand is why they expect sensible people to believe them.
taodepaul311 3 years ago
CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.
SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes one of them and gives it to your neighbor.
COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The government takes both and gives you spoiled milk.
zzx2847 3 years ago 2
AMERICA: You have two cows. 1% of the country has trillions of cows. You have to give one of your two cows to that 1%.
Change, please.
delolrue 3 years ago
obama HAS NOT EVEN MENTIONED CUTTING SPENDING!Cutting spending and reigning in this out of control empire is the ONLY way we can turn around our economy/p.s. bill richardson is human excrement who sexually harrases waitresses at zany's in albuquerque im told
logan1776 3 years ago
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have
"Next to the right of liberty, the right of property is the most important individual right guaranteed by the Constitution . ."
hmangum1 3 years ago 2
If you're supporting obama because of his tax cuts, realize that any tax gains you may receive from the government will be taken from companies who pass on the taxes to the consumer, so, guess what - you're paying more for the stuff you bought! Bye bye wellfare check.
hmangum1 3 years ago 2
you're a douchtard... he'll give tax cuts only to the people that work. take those fingers out of you stupid hears so you can hear. n instead n you can stick them up your ass!!
kevin7california 3 years ago
Be careful what you wish for 'cause you just might get it:A class war courtesy of Jumpy Joe"Take your mon-ay"Biden,a race war courtesy of Mi$helle"u-cracker-u"Obama,& a dumbing down of America from Nobama.Those Americans who work their asses off to support their families,keep kids in college&have the nerve to care for elderly parents should be ashamed to earn that evil $120,000-250,000.However,they will absolutely not pay 1 more cent to a corrupt Nobama government.Free money=not going to happen.
beaglenuts55 3 years ago 2
Obama is a joke..his a lier!
14Russian88 3 years ago
you fucking russian. learn to spell liar correctly you fucking atheist
kevin7california 3 years ago
Obviously Obama and his cronies/handlers do not have a clue what they are doing otherwise there would be a firm number and everyone would be on the same page. There would be no 250k, 200k, 150k, 120k, and who knows how much lower it will go. If we elect Obama hold on to your wallets, your homes, your cars, and your first born as he Obama is coming to get them to give to the less fortunate!!
rose18228 3 years ago
hmm...under 120K get a tax cut...well duh...that is under 250K...be wary of clips that last for only 12 seconds...lol
zbjordan23 3 years ago 2
Dude, calling me gay isn't offensive. And I wouldn't insult Jarheads by calling you the average Jarhead. Two of my friends were Marines. I know smart Jarheads, but you're subpar.
dvrjosh 3 years ago
Yeah. Right.
xcn125 3 years ago
Admit it, you didn't even realize straight people could support gay people, you know you're intelligence is well below average, you haven't done shit since you got out and you'll never have a high paying job.
I knew plenty of guys like you when I was in, you couldn't keep a civilian job because they would FIRE you! I made E-5 in three years had 3 types of bonus pay, and got into a University with a 6% acceptance rate when I got out, you want to call me little kid names?
dvrjosh 3 years ago
*your
dvrjosh 3 years ago
And white people that supported black people during the civil rights movement were actually black. Oh! I'm not a homophobe!
I'm using my GI bill, why don't you use yours. Seriously dude, you sound like you have the intelligence of a 12 year old. You can't even put a coherent sentence together, rofl!
What's sad is you don't even know how much an Obama presidency would help and you'd let McCain help companies rape you if there weren't smarter people out there to get Obama elected. ftw
dvrjosh 3 years ago
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I can't wait for this election to be over! I'm so tired of seeing Obama propoganda everywhere 24/7. I can't even take a five minute break to check the top youtube videos, because Obama's unproportionately loyal servants are so busy cheating and gaming the youtube system to fill up half the page. It's ridiculous. I'm done with youtube, who has been letting it happen! I agree with fifty cent though. I believe someone will take him out, anyway.
proprogrammer08 3 years ago
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Obama's proposals are as socialistic as they come. Read Karl Marx's Manifesto. Obama can call it spreading the wealth, redistribution whatever pretty face he wants to put on it, it's still socialism and class warfare. He will set racial division back 50 years, it has already begun. The crazy white supremecy skin heads will begin to kill the blacks anywhere they can find them and blacks will
Be careful what you ask for, who's going to save France, Germany, Iraq, Kuwait, etc. the next time?
flkeys409 3 years ago
Yeah!! Don't have to worry about paying your mortgage because Obama is going to tax the living daylights out of everyone with money in this country and give it to all of those who want to stay at home and not do anything!!!
rose18228 3 years ago 2
Wow, that sums it up perfectly. You must have came to this conclusion after careful study, weighing both candidates merits. You should be applauded for your intelligent insight.
arikrandall83 3 years ago
Yeah dude, you're fuckin hard, talking shit on the internet. Damn man, that's badass.
I'm actually not gay, but why would that be an insult anyway?
Would you like to go the personal route? Here it is:
Me: successful, veteran, athletic, get's cute girls, goes to a top ten college, has great earning potential.
You: stupid, poor, ignorant, white trash, sock fucker.
dvrjosh 3 years ago
I don't even know who/what you were replying to, but when I saw that last line, I had a good laugh.
bobaki2003 3 years ago
How will he pay for housing for illegal aliens like his aunt if he cuts taxes?
see: v=drtK-Pin2UE
RonFella 3 years ago
Dude stop cutting and pasting the same racist ullshit. At least have enough intelligence to come out with new racist bullshit.
dvrjosh 3 years ago
Thank the butchery that Bush and the suits @ Wall St + Banks for having to Tax anyone making over 120K someone has to clean up the mess and be an adult about responsibility and accountability right?
ap33me 3 years ago
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ZianEmx 3 years ago
You should vote Obama. He understands the importance of education and maybe he will do something that will allow you to take those English classes you so sorely need.
jstnorv 3 years ago 2
No, you should study up on economics and vote McCain, as then you would realize how backwards and wrong Obamas economic policies are.
zzx2847 3 years ago
zzx2847, have you taken macro economics? I mean no offense, but just saying you should read up about it does not defend your reason at all.
freewebjunk 3 years ago
zzx2847,
Obama's tax policies reflect Kensyian economics, check it out. Supply side is dead. If you understood what I was talking about at all.
dvrjosh 3 years ago
Republicans represent greed and war profiteering, death to the era of greed and war profiteering, death to them all
MyPasswordIsUserName 3 years ago
Wow...just keeps going down. Hmmm...Imagine that.McCain/Palin 2008!
slamnelson 3 years ago
Obamas radical plan on raising cash for his socialist programs, and combating our national security programs:
"Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.
I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems.
I will not weaponize space.
I will slow our development of future-combat systems."
zzx2847 3 years ago
The McCains do donate & Cindy has volunteered for 20+ years. Obama accepted a $265 campaign donation from his Aunt living in public housing. And yes, he does have a net worth of more than $1 mil. You think maybe he could afford to help her out? What about his brother living in an African slum? I thought charity was supposed to begin at home. I guess Obama doesn't need to give his own $ so long as he taxes the rest of us. Stop watching the ads & read more than CNN news, you might learn something.
ktbscarlet 3 years ago 3
BREAKING NEWS. The Dems already picked the
OFFICIAL SONG FOR OBAMAs INAUGURATION:
Obama-So help me god. (watch?v=c4f5noeDZdc).
sean89109 3 years ago
Obama is hardly a millionaire, how about the McCain's start dishing out their wealth
yanks1022 3 years ago
Man, it's so hard to keep a lie straight....
Go McCain/Palin! You can beat this redistributor of wealth wannabe. Why doesn't Obama redistribute some of his own wealth to his impoverished aunt and brother?! Oh, yeah, I forgot, he wants to redistribute OTHER PEOPLE'S wealth.
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ZianEmx 3 years ago
If you have any question's as to how his tax plan would benefit you, go to his website and enter your income.
The income bracket is 250k for joint couple's and 200k for individual income, anyone below this will see a TAX BREAK!
OBAMA 08'
StarMatter774 3 years ago
ROFL. I can make a website with calculator too, how great. Since I've never once in my life voted for a tax cut at the state or local levels, I have SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH OBAMA AND EQUAL CREDIBILITY
You don't "confuse" $250,000 and $120,000. Sounds like someone just had a policy, er OWN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, meeting. ROFL
Obama is the biggest FRAUD in history.
utubeusa1 3 years ago 3
I thought it was 250k and under would get tax cut!!??
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tibbz82 3 years ago
first is was $250,000, then it was $200,000, then it was $150,000, now it sounds like its going to be $120,000.
SirSethirothSama 3 years ago 2
You're right! Obama has one answer, Biden has another and Richardson has yet another. That number is moving further and further south..
Soon he'll have Jesse Jackson on the stump saying all those who make less than $25K will get a tax cut- Luckily for him that will include his poor aunt and brother and he can finally say that he lent them a helping hand
uniquenclassy713 3 years ago
HOW COME THE MARXIST IS LEADING?
myutubebroadcast 3 years ago
ARE WHITE PEOPLE REALLY THAT STUPID?
myutubebroadcast 3 years ago
well unfortunatly hes wrong because obamas plan is a 200,000 dollar and lower tax cut. PLUS, im in the 250,000 ransge and my taxes will only raise about 900 dollars. My parents make 250,000.its not going to put them in the crapper.
scrapmetallol 3 years ago
Maybe Obama needs to get together with his little pal Biden since Biden is all over the tv saying it's now 150K
flkeys409 3 years ago
McCain. Its got to be McCain.
mccommas2 3 years ago
Like Hitler, who was one of history's antichrist archetypes, he will have great charisma & speaking ability, "a mouth speaking great things".
megavettes 3 years ago
Nice right-wing slogans, but they are just slogans, and Not what Lincoln meant. It does not "Destroy" the rich to move tax rates back to less than what they were under Nixon and to the same or less than under Reagan. Obviously McCain thinks Reagan was a (so-called) "socialist" What nonsense.Enough Bush/McCain class war against the middle class and then calling anyone who wants to undo that a "class warrior" Stop McCain redistribution away from the middle class. Return to tax sanity. Go Obama08
econdemocracy 3 years ago
You can't help the poor, by destroying the rich.
You can't strengthen the weak, by weakening the strong.
You can't bring about prosperity, by discouraging thrift.
You can't lift the wage earner up, by pulling the wage payer down.
You can't further the brotherhood of man, by inciting class hatred.
You can't build character and courage, by taking away men's initiative and independence.
You can't help men by doing for them what they could and should, do for themselves.
Abraham Lincoln
sunny5357 3 years ago
Thank you for that quote
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson
AngloSaxon0 3 years ago
@sunny5357
AngloSaxon0 3 years ago
Where do the gaffs stop and where does the truth begin. I think in the Obama campaign that line has become blurred beyond comprehension
5M1L3 3 years ago
Debates it was 250K, on his totally humiliating *infomercial* it's now 200K then Biden says 150K yesterday. The sheep need to realize they are getting NOTHING!!! His own family lives in squalor, it's all about his self gain. He doesn't give a shit about most Americans. He doesn't even like America. He's just like his *pals*. He wants to live in the White house and use our tax dollars. Well he won't get a cent of mine if he wins.
sunny5357 3 years ago 3
Who do you want for president a man who shot bullets in Vietnam or a guy who shot staples into telephone polls.
virtualzhbl 3 years ago
That is no basis to decide.
In the 1930s Germany elected a guy who fought in WW1. It didn't turn out so well.
knowledgemonger 3 years ago
So-you are equating Mccain to Hitler? Hmm We know a heck of a lot more about Mccain than Barrack Obama. I do not recall Mccain advocating Jewish hatred or the elimination of Jews. He has always been very pro-Israel. On the other hand, you have Rev. Wright and his anti-Jewish remarks. Now, we have endorsements from Hamas and Al Quaeda supporting Obama. Obviously, Obama is much closer to Hitler than Mccain. I am not being idiotic like you and calling Obama Hitler, but his endorsers are antisemite
neoconscottp 3 years ago
You haven't been watching the news Al Quaeda endorsed McCain. They said that McCain would help their plans to bleed America dry.
Obama has both spoken and acted in the interests of Israel. Check out senate bill S-1977 for an example of his work to keep Israel safe.
knowledgemonger 3 years ago
Your logic humors me. I'm almost laughing as much as I laughed listening to the prank call taken by Palin. But how do you figure. Obama advocates hatred of Jews by association. But McCain doesn't advocate hatred of Catholics by Association (referring to Hage), or Palin doesn't advocate hatred of non-believers by association. The association battles is why Repubicans are losing this year.
PixelMarx 3 years ago
Let me clarify on the Hitler thing:
No I most certainly was not comparing McCain to Hitler. I was pointing out that voting for someone on the basis that they fought in a war is a very poor method of deciding. It lead to one of the worst guys in the world getting in charge of a country.
Both McCain and Obama are just fine on the Israel topic with perhaps one point against McCain. One of the biggest threats to Israel is is the bad guys get one of the Russian nukes. Obama was ahead on this.
knowledgemonger 3 years ago
Thats why it took Obama three days to comment on the Gerogia/Russia conflict and Obama pretty much repeated what McCain said. Personally I would rather have McCain, a man tested and tried for years of torture and yet didn't sell out our country than Obmama that has not made one executive decision...This is one of MANY reason McCain is a far better choice.
levi760 3 years ago
levi760:in all fairness, even moderate,conservative's and far right republicans admit that McCain's response to issue's were impulsive and erratic. "he's suspending his campaign, rushing to washington, canceling debates, fundamentals of the economy r strong, picking Palin without vetting". Just because he "God forbid" suffered torture doesn't make him best choice for president,r all the other soldiers better equipped to be president also or do we need a decisive intellect in the white house.
StarMatter774 3 years ago
While Obama's statements on Georgia / Russia did contain most of the same letters and some of the same words as McCain's Obama's response was a very different one from McCain's initial one. Also Obama responded much sooner than the 3 day number you suggest.
knowledgemonger 3 years ago
Like Hitler, who was one of history's antichrist archetypes, he will have great charisma & speaking ability, "a mouth speaking great things".
megavettes 3 years ago
Bill Richardson made a gaffe. Woo big deal. If you don't understand the facts of Obama's plan yet, you're never going to. $250,000 or more, your taxes go up. $200,000 or less, your taxes go down. $200,000 to $250,000 and you'll see no change.
PixelMarx 3 years ago
Hmmm-did he really make a gaffe or is this Obama's plan after he is elected? Lets see-he will say "I did not realize that the economy that George Bush left me was in such bad shape-so I have no choice to raise taxes on people who are making $120,000." Then, a month later he will say "I have tried very hard to overcome the devestation from the Bush tax cuts so I must raise taxes on people making $60,000 or more." etc.. Remember-Bill Clinton is now teaching him.;-)
neoconscottp 3 years ago
Yeah and last night I had these ghosts knocking on my door...are you really that paranoid? That's the equivalent of people on the left thinking George Bush planned 9/11 so he'd have a reason to go into Iraq. No president will commit the folly of George HW Bush, and raise taxes after saying the won't. Obama would more likely run up a debt than do that.
PixelMarx 3 years ago
this Ron Paul supporter campaigns for Ralph Nader
5 million votes = strong opposition party
campaign4liberty 3 years ago
Hussein Obama wants to give our hard earn money to welfare recipients and illegal immigrants. This is called Communism and trickle up poverty. Frighting.
Hussein Obama in the Senate voted to tax people who only made $42,000 dollars. He will tax everyone to pay for his radical socialistic programs like the Global Poverty Act which would send 845 billion dollars to Africa. That's more then the 700 billion dollar bailout. We can't afford this guy.
virtualzhbl 3 years ago
Acutally, Communism is more akin to the state owning the financial institutions - which is where we are today with Bush. Now that's scary.
PixelMarx 3 years ago
Taken out of context.
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Musicians4Obama 3 years ago
I worked very hard to earn for my family even not spending enough time for my family.
Overtime if I need to. But Federal tax prevents me from getting what I deserve when
working hard by taxing me more If I do overtime. These taxes should be further
reduced not increased. Obama said, below $250,000, then in the ad, below $200,000,
then Biden said , below 150,000 is middle class, then Richardson said middle class
are families earning below 120,000. Democrats can't even make up their mind.
DarthMai 3 years ago
Exploiting these slips and gaffes doesn't change the real deal. The plan is still no tax increase for those making $250k and less. If you make more than $150k you're in the top 5% of the nation's earners. This economy is not going to recover if the middle class doesn't get relief.
mikebee02 3 years ago
No-brainer. Obama has been talking about no tax increases below $250k. Tax cuts for a segment is a different topic. No inconsistency. In fact, additional good news for those under $120k. To summarize, no increases below $250k, possible decreases below $120k. Next topic, please...
FlyFasterHigher 3 years ago
I hope people realize that, by saying that those making $120k or less are middle class and will receive a tax cut, Richardson is NOT saying that those making between $120k and $250k will receive a tax increase. Lets get past all the fallacious spin, eh?
forgetsalot 3 years ago