Thank you for this video series. Much false teaching on the rapture comes from II Thes 2:7, "Only he who now letteth will let until he be taken out of the way." False teachers teach that the church is he who is taken out of the way. The "he" in this verse is God's Word. His being taken is the fulfillment Christ's prophecy in the parable of the sewer and the seed. "Let them grow together..." Unfulfilled prophecy in God's Word is who is allowing the wicked to still be here. See also John 1:1.
Proverbs 2 : 20So you will walk in the way of good men And keep to the paths of the righteous.
21For the upright will live in the land (earth) And the blameless will remain in it;
22But the wicked will be cut off from the land/earth And the treacherous will be uprooted from it.
caught up=taken by force/ Lot was taken forced by the hand and led out of the city , the wicked were taken away, plucked out of the earth. Lot was left behind.
if you say there is s pre trib rapture, this shows your ignorance of truth, Its good to know who not to listen to. We need to know who the weeds are. its no good to argue either when others know thy truth. Im sorry to see how many know so little, belive in what you want of false hood, when it does not happen, you will know the truth then, but i fear to late, tell GOD that at your Trial, forgive for i was to arogant to know truth, for i was to lazy to seek the answer,for i listened to others.
if you say there is s pre trib rapture, this shows your ignorance of truth, Its good to know who not to listen to. We need to know who the weeds are. its no good to argue either when others know thy truth. Im sorry to see how many know so little, belive in what you want of false hood, when it does not happen, you will know the truth then, but i fear to late, tell GOD that at your Trial, forgive for i was to arogant to know truth, fori was to lasy to seek the answer,for i listened to others.
if you say there is s pre trib rature, this shows your ignorance of truth, Its good to know who not to listen to. We need to know who the weeds are. its no good to argue either when others know thy truth. Im sorry to see how many know so little, belive in what you want of false hood, when it does not happen, you will know the truth then, but i fear to late, tell GOD that at your Trial, forgive for i was to arogant to know truth, fori was to lasy to seek the answer,for i listened to others.
@norvman 1Thes5:9For God hath not appointed us to wrath,but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,Rev3:10Bcause thou hast kept the word of my patience,I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation.Also-Rev 2:10,4:1-11,5:1-14,22:12,Luke21:34-36,1Cor15:50-53,2Cor4:14,5:1-5,Eph4:30,5:32,Phil1:6,10,2:16,3:9-11;Col3:4;1Thess1:10,2:19-20,3:13,4:13-18,5:9-10,5:23;1Tim6:14-15;2Tim4:8Heb10:25,37,11:35;James1:12,1Peter1:5,7,13,5:4,2Peter1:11;1John 3:2-3;2John1:8 And More! Do a Bible study!
" Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life." so your agreeing that we will be judged in the here and now?
That keeping YHVHs commands is what we are being tested on... correct?
@norvman You almost have it! Just as EVERYONE will not be thrown into prison, NOT everyone must or can be faithful unto death. (This is for those left behind - the Tribulation Saints). The Believers WILL be raptured before the Big 'T' Tribulation. We will suffer some small 't' tribulation. We will have 't'ribulation 10 days (small 't') as you have seen and identify.... and then the rapture! Keep it all in context - you are getting there.
@hiyosilver100 no... I don't really think so... Big T little t.... makes not difference... The Called out Choose are by scripture going through judgement in NOW... not later... It is not a matter that we Choose God... God Chooses us... and he puts us through a decision process... (His decision not ours) just as I go to a Car lot and 'Judge' which car it is I want to meet my needs so God does with us... "will he follow me or will he not?" God test us... to see what we can do... simple as that...
@hiyosilver100 There is not timing... Even Yashua said he did not no the time... only the Father... The timing is not important... all that is important is that we are 'caught' doing what we should when the master returns... the more we obsess on the 'when' the less we put into the weightier matters "Judgement, Mercy, Faith" ... Timing is not on that list... When... is not on the list... All that is important about it is simply that ''this' event is still yet future... and 'that one' is past...
@hiyosilver100 No where does it say the 'Believers' will be 'Raptured' or 'taken a way' or anything of the sort in scripture... Now if you want to talk about the Faithful... which is not the same thing as 'believers'... (for even the demons believe...) and if you want to talk about Resurrection... which is not an interchangeable word with Rapure... Why use the incorrect word unless your intent is to tell it 'incorrectly'?
@hiyosilver100 Rev3:10 does not mention the word 'rapture' nor taking away...
Rev2:10... no mention of Rapture... Rev 4:11... no Rapture... Rev 5:14... no Rapture... Rev 22:12 nope no Rapture... Luke 21:34.. still no Rapture... 1 Corinthians15... no Rap.. (Resurrection of the Dead... but no Rap) 2Cor4:14 (Res but no Rap)... 2Cor5:1-5 ResNoRap.. Eph4:30(not sure why you thru that in there... just to puffup the scripture count I suppose)Eph5:32???lol... Phil1:6 (yes but how will he perform it?)
@norvman The word in Greek is Harpazo! In Latin Rapiamor. Check out vids by Perry Stone or David Jeremiah. They explain better than I ever could.
How can *I* answer how will He perform it! Are you always so dense? READ it all IN context! Out here. I'm not giving a Bible study. (You do not u'stand being 'sealed' until the day of redemption?Eph 4:30. Or who the 'church' is? Eph5:32.)The church is mentioned only briefly in Rev. Because they are not on earth!
@norvman The word in Greek is Harpazo! In Latin Rapiamor. Check out vids by Perry Stone or David Jeremiah. They explain better than I ever could.
How can *I* answer how will He perform it! Are you always so dense? READ it all IN context! Out here. I'm not giving a Bible study. (You do not u'stand being 'sealed' until the day of redemption?Eph 4:30. Or who the 'church' is? Eph5:32.)The church is mentioned only briefly in Rev. Because they are not on earth!
@hiyosilver100 Phil1:10 again...LOL! I suppose you were drinking when you thru this one in?... Phil2:16 if your not searching for the truth... then... yah your running in vain... Phil3:9-11 Christ was only found righteous by his keeping of the law... if he broke it at any point then he disqualified himself as our savior... Col3:4(Resurrection_No_Rapture)... 1Thess1:10 (Res-No-Rap)... 1Thess2:19-20...(Res-No-Rap)... 1Thess3:13 (Res-No-Rap) 1Thess4:13-18... no use of the word Rapture...
@hiyosilver100 1Thess5:9-10(you lost me on why this verse is part of your argument, more padding I suppose...) 1Thess5:23 (more padding) 1Tim6:14-15 I agree that we should keep his commandments... (but what about this Rapture thing?... 2Tim4:8... (Rapture?... not here) Heb10:25,37... humm... could you perhaps just be picking scriptures at random to prove your Rapture case?... Heb11:35 aaah "Resurection"... not Rapture... LOL! James1:12... your saying crowns are the same thing as a rapture?
@hiyosilver100 1Peter1:5(another obsure verse... not having the word Rapture in it) 1Peter1:13(and another) 1Peter5:4(and another) 2Peter1:11(and another) 1John 3:2-3 (another) 2John1:8 (another)
Perhaps you did not understand the question.... allow me to state it again please sir...
There is not Rapture in scripture... please state your case... (not give us a list of unrelated scriptures not having a single example of the word "Rapure" in them...) Me do a bible study? Talk about motes...
@RudeAwakning ! i disagree there, is a caught up of the church refering to the rapture what will happen and if u
not ready it would appear that it was a secret ? remember the parable told by jesus about the 10 virgins in mathew 25:1-12 , also the lord came to me in a vision several times confirming the matter. there is a rapture not a secret rapture.
@Builder75 I absolutely agree! A pre-trib rapture and NO secret about it for those that have read The Book! Some articulate, bearded guy in a costume not withstanding.
Exodus 12: 6And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.
Why only at passover does the entire rest of the bible keep "evenings" at the begining of the day?
Genesis 1: 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
in the Hebrew Calendar there is a 13th month that shows it's self every 3 years out of a 7 year cycle. That is 1st year 12 months 2nd year 12 months 3rd year 13months
4th -12 5th-12 6th-13... then on the 7th year you have a 'sabbath' year.. on the 8th year you start the count over 8th-12, 9th-12, 10th-13... etc....
This goes on until you hit the 49th year... on the 50th year is again a Sabbath year
Daniel 12:1, " "At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in the book--will be delivered." The Bible only needs one passage to explain something and this is it for me. Do not fear, this is a tribulation for non-believers.
Daniel 12:1, " "At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in the book--will be delivered." The Bible only needs one passage to explain something and this is it for me. Do not fear, this is a tribulation for non-believers.
How about this passage in Daniel 12:1, " Michael will stand up and his people will be delivered. This is the rapture I believe in. Is that mid tribulation?
@Consumerofknowledge we will always have tribulation and persecution, that is biblical and Jesus told us. However, there does appear to be a specific time in history, where God will keep those who love Him FROM (ek=out) of the HOUR of testing that will come upon the whole earth...Rev3:10. But we are as followers and believers in Yeshua, to EXPECT daily trials and tribulation all counted for His Glory. God Bless you.
4:19 he talks about calculating the calendar in the future. Computing moon visibility at sunset in the future is easy with a computer. The only variable is when the barley is ripe, but this error doesn't compound over time, so you can be off by at most one month.
@1021kb enoch was raptured out before the world was judged. Enoch was a gentile. Noah, whose seed brought the messiah and God's chosen, the jews, were brought through the judgement. this i believe is a picuture of things to come. That the church will be removed and then God will deal with Israel when He judges the nations. Lot and his family were taken out of Sodom & Gomorrah before judgement came and were not brought through it..That too is a picture of deliverance before judgement.
@norvman Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was TRANSLATED.. Blue letter concordance Strongs G33346 to transfer, to change. Rapture (caught up-harpazo,rapuro,changed in the moment in the twinkling of an eye) Please consider that Rapture,Demon, Trinity are not found in the bible - but they are used to describe something that we all understand. thanks and God Bless...
Strongs Concordance never uses the word rapture. Because the Origonal grk cannot be translated as such. Grk3346 metathithemi To transfer, transport, exchange, change sides, pervert, carry over, change, remove, turn over. From two grk roots Grk 3326 and Grk 5087
'meta' which means amid, participation in, proximity too and 'Tithemi' which means to be prostrate, to kneel, to sink down, to set forth.
Strongs Concordance never uses the word rapture. Because the Origonal grk cannot be translated as such. Grk3346 metathithemi To transfer, transport, exchange, change sides, pervert, carry over, change, remove, turn over. From two grk roots Grk 3326 and Grk 5087
'meta' which means amid, participation in, proximity too and 'Tithemi' which means to be prostrate, to kneel, to sink down, to set forth.
Rapture, Demon, and Trinity are all man made assumptions not Gods word
@norvman Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
Hebrews 11:13 "These ALL DIED in faith, not having received the promises" The Death that Enoch did not see was not his own but the death of all of humanity at the hand of God at the flood. The Greek word Translated definately does not mean raptured it means laid out flat (dead perhaps?)
God did the same thing with Moses. Moses's bones were 'taken' by Micheal the Archangel Jude 1:9
@norvman That is ok that you and i understand differently... we are still both saved by the Grace of Jesus Christ. God knows how much you and i both LOVE HIM. Can you tell me where ELijah is? thank you. And i still believe Enoch did not see death, and will die later... (revelation and the two witnesses). thanks for your comment..I also believe many will not see death in the rapture of the saints be it pre-mid-post.
@norvman have you thoughts on the Mount of Transfiguration when Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus... How were Moses or Elijah able to do this before the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ? and why were the Jews asking John the Baptist if he was that prophet Elijah, did the jews at that time understand that Elijah had not died? thank you.
The Jews understood that the Elijah must come before the Son of Man can appear. Matt17:12"I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not" Then in v 13 "disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist"
But why send a substitute if Elijah is alive and well? And what is Moses doing in Jerusalem? Was he not banished from entering the Promised land by God?
Note What Yashua says in Matt17:9 "Tell the VISION to no man"
@norvman Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD. This has not occurred yet..it's prophetic and still future... we have not entered the tribulation.. Elijah is one of the two witnessess..in Revelation... that is how i understand this. John the Baptist came with the same Spirit of Elijah..he was not Elijah. Elijah will return and he will die and be raise up along with the other witness in book of Revelation.
@0871368021 This type of poor translation causes so many misconceptions. Not blaming you but nevertheless let me set the record straight and please don't take my word for it, do the translation yourself. The word translated as Elijah is actually Elyah or El is Yah. The word translated as prophet also means prophecy. So what Malachi is telling us is that the Mighty One is Yahowah, not the Lord, not God, and not Adonai. To call Him by these brings the Creator to the level of what He created.
@enigma5mb thank you.But why are the jews waiting for Elijah today? And can you explain this verse following,thanks. KJV 1 Corinthians 15:51-53 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
@0871368021 You are welcome. The Jews are waiting for Elijah because they believe the lies of their fathers. YHWH tells us through Jeremiah 23:27 that there is (was) a plot to take His Name out of the mouths of His people. This is why Jews teach their children to say the "Sh'ma" (Deut 6:4) using Adonai despite the warning in Deut. 4:2 not to add nor take away from His commands. This plot extended to the Messiah whose true Hebrew name "Yahoshah" means "Yah is salvation".
@0871368021 As for the scripture you ask about, my response requires much more space than this forum allows. But I will be happy to share my findings on it if you will post your question at my YouTube site. Shalom alechem.
Christ calls this a vision. These were not the real Moses and Elijah. only visions of them to demonstrate Christ Mastery over them and their offices. before Peter, James, and John. Note 2 peter 1:16-18
" but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
God showing visions is by far, not unique to this event
@norvman yes, it was a vision.. but my point is this, do you believe there are some that shall not see death but shall be changed? just as we are told in scripture? Do you believe it is possible and biblical that there are some who will not experience physical death before they meet the Lord Jesus Christ? I do.
first... Does it mater what 'I' believe? If everyone else believes different than what God believes who is right?
So... what does the scriptures say? 1Corith 15:51"We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed" And in verse 52 "at the last trump" This is a one time event Also note that were as there is no use of the word "Rapture" in scripture, the word "Resurrection" is used some 25 times...
Plus note that Paul uses the word "mystery" that is Paul was revealing something new about resurrections So the Idea that someone could be "changed instantly" without experiencing death, was a new concept. Otherwise why use the words "I show you a mystery" ? The resurrection of the dead was not an unknown concept of the time note Acts 23:6-10 but being changed instantly from physical to spiritual was
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that's misunderstood,, what do you think thithes and offering pay for the Lord said bring all the tithes into my storehouse,, also he told solomon that the money placed in the temple would be for the preist and repairing the building,,, you have to read samuel and 1 and second kings and you need to study the sanctuary
I like Michael Rood's teachings, and I like that he is humble enough to admit where he had been a false teacher in the past, it's a sign of growth. HOWEVER, there is NO COMMANDMENT that says the barley ripening is the indicator of the Beginning of Months - this is where Rood is wrong. Just because the barley isn't ripe, doesn't mean the Beginning of Months changes. Abib 1 begins on Abib 1, with or without ripe barley on the new moon. Shalom!
i believe in the rapture of the church.i also believe Enoch is a picture of the Bride being taken out before the judgement.However, i have conflict with Noah,who was a righteous man,obedient,and loved God...and yet he was brought through it -yet protected and shielded.Can someone tell me, who does Enoch forshadow and who does Noah forshadow?any help would be great.thanks.
The one possibility that so few Christians consider. There are 3 raptures. Pre, Mid and post. Because scriptures are present for all 3 is why we have 3 different vire point. Yet we never accept there can be 3 of them.
I absolutely believe in the Rapture of the Church and then the LORD will exclusively deal with Israel and Jacob. The Time of Jacob's trouble. Read Psalm 12- Help LORD for the good man perishes. I know that the POPE the Babylonian prince of darkness changed the time and seasons (Pope Gregory). I am assured by scripture that the Rapture will take place first-before the tribulation.
The Rapture is a doctrine of man. Please research it to see how it came about. There is no pre-tribulation rapture of the righteous. The righteous will be sorely needed during the tribulation.
sorry to tell you but anyone who beleives in Yahshua(aka jesus) IS A PART OF ISRAEL. Romans 11 and 12. We are grafted in. So if you think he's going to "deal with Israel" that means we WILL be here.
You need to rightly divide the WORD. Those of us who are grafted in Gentiles are Part of Israel, we are you in-laws, so to speak, The Churchk, 'The Bride of Christ, while Israel is the wife (although estranged) of the Father. We are in-laws, like Ruth and Naomi. The tribulation is the time of JACOBS trouble. Jacob is flesh Jew, while Israel represents the Land and the Spiritual Jew in the Bible. I will say Amen to ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED, In the time of Jacob's trouble.Read Isa. 57;1-2 Ps. 12
@YESHUAISMERCIFUL Yes and no... or no and yes... depending on how you look at it...
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: 1 Peter 4:17... Our judgement... the called out ones... the Church... the Elect... that is the small flock... not everyone... Is that we are being Judged right now... Judged for what? ... simple... will we follow Gods command or will we not... Read this whole chapter and see if what I say is not true...
reginaDexant: please study your views on the rapture and its timing. Matthew 24 will be a good starting point when Yahshua says immediately after the tribulation of those days, that lets us know there will be no gathering of the elect before the tribulation. What you are calling the rapture is really the second coming of the Messiyah. He will not make His appearance before the tribulation. Peope will accept the false prophet who are not awake to the truth and looking for a false rapture.
@ShemarYAH1 That's right. Parable of sewer and the seed teaches that the tares are gathered together before the righteous are gathered, Mathew 13:30. Israel has already become a member state of the ICRC, which is the antiChrist's creation. The false prophet is Jean Henri Dunant, the founder of the International Red Cross. Israel would never be led by any Christian institution to take anything, especially a mark in their forehead or forearm. Google OneCloudyDayAL and check out my blogs.
Thank you for this video series. Much false teaching on the rapture comes from II Thes 2:7, "Only he who now letteth will let until he be taken out of the way." False teachers teach that the church is he who is taken out of the way. The "he" in this verse is God's Word. His being taken is the fulfillment Christ's prophecy in the parable of the sewer and the seed. "Let them grow together..." Unfulfilled prophecy in God's Word is who is allowing the wicked to still be here. See also John 1:1.
OneCloudyDayAL 3 months ago
Proverbs 2 : 20So you will walk in the way of good men And keep to the paths of the righteous.
21For the upright will live in the land (earth) And the blameless will remain in it;
22But the wicked will be cut off from the land/earth And the treacherous will be uprooted from it.
caught up=taken by force/ Lot was taken forced by the hand and led out of the city , the wicked were taken away, plucked out of the earth. Lot was left behind.
Noah was also left.
great8thday 6 months ago
if you say there is s pre trib rapture, this shows your ignorance of truth, Its good to know who not to listen to. We need to know who the weeds are. its no good to argue either when others know thy truth. Im sorry to see how many know so little, belive in what you want of false hood, when it does not happen, you will know the truth then, but i fear to late, tell GOD that at your Trial, forgive for i was to arogant to know truth, for i was to lazy to seek the answer,for i listened to others.
TheMichaelpk 8 months ago
@TheMichaelpk spammer scammer... state your case...
norvman 5 months ago
if you say there is s pre trib rapture, this shows your ignorance of truth, Its good to know who not to listen to. We need to know who the weeds are. its no good to argue either when others know thy truth. Im sorry to see how many know so little, belive in what you want of false hood, when it does not happen, you will know the truth then, but i fear to late, tell GOD that at your Trial, forgive for i was to arogant to know truth, fori was to lasy to seek the answer,for i listened to others.
TheMichaelpk 8 months ago
if you say there is s pre trib rature, this shows your ignorance of truth, Its good to know who not to listen to. We need to know who the weeds are. its no good to argue either when others know thy truth. Im sorry to see how many know so little, belive in what you want of false hood, when it does not happen, you will know the truth then, but i fear to late, tell GOD that at your Trial, forgive for i was to arogant to know truth, fori was to lasy to seek the answer,for i listened to others.
TheMichaelpk 8 months ago
Nice message. Except that there surely will be a pre-trib rapture.
hiyosilver100 10 months ago
@hiyosilver100--2 Thessalonians chapter 2 states otherwise.
tardwhisperer 9 months ago
@hiyosilver100 There is no Rapture in scripture... please state your case...
norvman 5 months ago
@norvman 1Thes5:9For God hath not appointed us to wrath,but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,Rev3:10Bcause thou hast kept the word of my patience,I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation.Also-Rev 2:10,4:1-11,5:1-14,22:12,Luke21:34-36,1Cor15:50-53,2Cor4:14,5:1-5,Eph4:30,5:32,Phil1:6,10,2:16,3:9-11;Col3:4;1Thess1:10,2:19-20,3:13,4:13-18,5:9-10,5:23;1Tim6:14-15;2Tim4:8Heb10:25,37,11:35;James1:12,1Peter1:5,7,13,5:4,2Peter1:11;1John 3:2-3;2John1:8 And More! Do a Bible study!
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100 Rev 2:10...
" Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life." so your agreeing that we will be judged in the here and now?
That keeping YHVHs commands is what we are being tested on... correct?
norvman 5 months ago
@norvman You almost have it! Just as EVERYONE will not be thrown into prison, NOT everyone must or can be faithful unto death. (This is for those left behind - the Tribulation Saints). The Believers WILL be raptured before the Big 'T' Tribulation. We will suffer some small 't' tribulation. We will have 't'ribulation 10 days (small 't') as you have seen and identify.... and then the rapture! Keep it all in context - you are getting there.
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100 no... I don't really think so... Big T little t.... makes not difference... The Called out Choose are by scripture going through judgement in NOW... not later... It is not a matter that we Choose God... God Chooses us... and he puts us through a decision process... (His decision not ours) just as I go to a Car lot and 'Judge' which car it is I want to meet my needs so God does with us... "will he follow me or will he not?" God test us... to see what we can do... simple as that...
norvman 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100 There is not timing... Even Yashua said he did not no the time... only the Father... The timing is not important... all that is important is that we are 'caught' doing what we should when the master returns... the more we obsess on the 'when' the less we put into the weightier matters "Judgement, Mercy, Faith" ... Timing is not on that list... When... is not on the list... All that is important about it is simply that ''this' event is still yet future... and 'that one' is past...
norvman 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100 No where does it say the 'Believers' will be 'Raptured' or 'taken a way' or anything of the sort in scripture... Now if you want to talk about the Faithful... which is not the same thing as 'believers'... (for even the demons believe...) and if you want to talk about Resurrection... which is not an interchangeable word with Rapure... Why use the incorrect word unless your intent is to tell it 'incorrectly'?
norvman 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100 Rev3:10 does not mention the word 'rapture' nor taking away...
Rev2:10... no mention of Rapture... Rev 4:11... no Rapture... Rev 5:14... no Rapture... Rev 22:12 nope no Rapture... Luke 21:34.. still no Rapture... 1 Corinthians15... no Rap.. (Resurrection of the Dead... but no Rap) 2Cor4:14 (Res but no Rap)... 2Cor5:1-5 ResNoRap.. Eph4:30(not sure why you thru that in there... just to puffup the scripture count I suppose)Eph5:32???lol... Phil1:6 (yes but how will he perform it?)
norvman 5 months ago
@norvman The word in Greek is Harpazo! In Latin Rapiamor. Check out vids by Perry Stone or David Jeremiah. They explain better than I ever could.
How can *I* answer how will He perform it! Are you always so dense? READ it all IN context! Out here. I'm not giving a Bible study. (You do not u'stand being 'sealed' until the day of redemption?Eph 4:30. Or who the 'church' is? Eph5:32.)The church is mentioned only briefly in Rev. Because they are not on earth!
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
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@norvman The word in Greek is Harpazo! In Latin Rapiamor. Check out vids by Perry Stone or David Jeremiah. They explain better than I ever could.
How can *I* answer how will He perform it! Are you always so dense? READ it all IN context! Out here. I'm not giving a Bible study. (You do not u'stand being 'sealed' until the day of redemption?Eph 4:30. Or who the 'church' is? Eph5:32.)The church is mentioned only briefly in Rev. Because they are not on earth!
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100 Phil1:10 again...LOL! I suppose you were drinking when you thru this one in?... Phil2:16 if your not searching for the truth... then... yah your running in vain... Phil3:9-11 Christ was only found righteous by his keeping of the law... if he broke it at any point then he disqualified himself as our savior... Col3:4(Resurrection_No_Rapture)... 1Thess1:10 (Res-No-Rap)... 1Thess2:19-20...(Res-No-Rap)... 1Thess3:13 (Res-No-Rap) 1Thess4:13-18... no use of the word Rapture...
norvman 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100 1Thess5:9-10(you lost me on why this verse is part of your argument, more padding I suppose...) 1Thess5:23 (more padding) 1Tim6:14-15 I agree that we should keep his commandments... (but what about this Rapture thing?... 2Tim4:8... (Rapture?... not here) Heb10:25,37... humm... could you perhaps just be picking scriptures at random to prove your Rapture case?... Heb11:35 aaah "Resurection"... not Rapture... LOL! James1:12... your saying crowns are the same thing as a rapture?
norvman 5 months ago
@hiyosilver100 1Peter1:5(another obsure verse... not having the word Rapture in it) 1Peter1:13(and another) 1Peter5:4(and another) 2Peter1:11(and another) 1John 3:2-3 (another) 2John1:8 (another)
Perhaps you did not understand the question.... allow me to state it again please sir...
There is not Rapture in scripture... please state your case... (not give us a list of unrelated scriptures not having a single example of the word "Rapure" in them...) Me do a bible study? Talk about motes...
norvman 5 months ago
The damned JESUITS Alvaraz and Ribero invented the LIES of Preterism and Futurism and Rapture - and the dumb Protestat world bought it !
See TOTAL ONSLAUGHT
FKTHPOPE 1 year ago
I was actually trying to disprove post trib. rapture and then actually became a post triber...too bad my family relatives still cling on to pre-trib
joshj15 1 year ago
Amen! No Rapture! The Holy feast calenders are confusing! Help! :(
RudeAwakning 1 year ago
@RudeAwakning ! i disagree there, is a caught up of the church refering to the rapture what will happen and if u
not ready it would appear that it was a secret ? remember the parable told by jesus about the 10 virgins in mathew 25:1-12 , also the lord came to me in a vision several times confirming the matter. there is a rapture not a secret rapture.
Builder75 6 months ago
@Builder75 I absolutely agree! A pre-trib rapture and NO secret about it for those that have read The Book! Some articulate, bearded guy in a costume not withstanding.
hiyosilver100 5 months ago
Jesus Died on the evening of the 14th day of Nissan. At the precise moment the passover lamb was to be sacrificed. Jesus was the passover lamb.
RudeAwakning 1 year ago
Praise God, I am glad you learned the truth about the rapture fairy tale.
RudeAwakning 1 year ago
Is there a scripture that says that the passover lamb 'must' be inspected for 4 days?
norvman 1 year ago
@norvman
Exodus 12: 6And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.
Why only at passover does the entire rest of the bible keep "evenings" at the begining of the day?
Genesis 1: 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
norvman 1 year ago
Passover begins on at sundown on the evening of the 14th after the day portion of the 13th That's 3 days inspection of the passover... not 4
Note also that the first day of Unleavened Bread IS NOT the same thing as Passover Day
norvman 1 year ago
if we have a different job to do then what would that task happen to be?
SpankbankINC 1 year ago
Perhaps I am misunderstanding, but as he points out himself, through "season of barley" etc. an effectively solar calendar was understood in practice.
All Hebrew calendars had to be adjusted periodically.
Otherwise, with continuous 30 day months, summer would switch with winter about every 36 years.
IslamExplored 1 year ago
@IslamExplored
in the Hebrew Calendar there is a 13th month that shows it's self every 3 years out of a 7 year cycle. That is 1st year 12 months 2nd year 12 months 3rd year 13months
4th -12 5th-12 6th-13... then on the 7th year you have a 'sabbath' year.. on the 8th year you start the count over 8th-12, 9th-12, 10th-13... etc....
This goes on until you hit the 49th year... on the 50th year is again a Sabbath year
and on year 51 the count starts again...
norvman 1 year ago
@norvman it's complicated but it does keep the months in line with the solar year
norvman 1 year ago
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Daniel 12:1, " "At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in the book--will be delivered." The Bible only needs one passage to explain something and this is it for me. Do not fear, this is a tribulation for non-believers.
bernadettestar 1 year ago
Daniel 12:1, " "At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in the book--will be delivered." The Bible only needs one passage to explain something and this is it for me. Do not fear, this is a tribulation for non-believers.
bernadettestar 1 year ago
How about this passage in Daniel 12:1, " Michael will stand up and his people will be delivered. This is the rapture I believe in. Is that mid tribulation?
bernadettestar 1 year ago
@bernadettestar Delivering is not Rapturing
norvman 1 year ago
but i want a rapture. i dont want to be here for tribulation.
Consumerofknowledge 1 year ago
@Consumerofknowledge Read Daniel 11 and 12. Michael, the Great Prince is not an angel and only He can come and get us.
bernadettestar 1 year ago
@Consumerofknowledge we will always have tribulation and persecution, that is biblical and Jesus told us. However, there does appear to be a specific time in history, where God will keep those who love Him FROM (ek=out) of the HOUR of testing that will come upon the whole earth...Rev3:10. But we are as followers and believers in Yeshua, to EXPECT daily trials and tribulation all counted for His Glory. God Bless you.
0871368021 1 year ago
4:19 he talks about calculating the calendar in the future. Computing moon visibility at sunset in the future is easy with a computer. The only variable is when the barley is ripe, but this error doesn't compound over time, so you can be off by at most one month.
whatsyofaithbrotha 1 year ago
In the days of Noah the wicked were taken away and the righteous 8 were left.
1021kb 2 years ago
@1021kb enoch was raptured out before the world was judged. Enoch was a gentile. Noah, whose seed brought the messiah and God's chosen, the jews, were brought through the judgement. this i believe is a picuture of things to come. That the church will be removed and then God will deal with Israel when He judges the nations. Lot and his family were taken out of Sodom & Gomorrah before judgement came and were not brought through it..That too is a picture of deliverance before judgement.
0871368021 1 year ago
@0871368021
scripture does not say that Enoch was "Raptured"
norvman 1 year ago
@norvman Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was TRANSLATED.. Blue letter concordance Strongs G33346 to transfer, to change. Rapture (caught up-harpazo,rapuro,changed in the moment in the twinkling of an eye) Please consider that Rapture,Demon, Trinity are not found in the bible - but they are used to describe something that we all understand. thanks and God Bless...
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Strongs Concordance never uses the word rapture. Because the Origonal grk cannot be translated as such. Grk3346 metathithemi To transfer, transport, exchange, change sides, pervert, carry over, change, remove, turn over. From two grk roots Grk 3326 and Grk 5087
'meta' which means amid, participation in, proximity too and 'Tithemi' which means to be prostrate, to kneel, to sink down, to set forth.
norvman 1 year ago
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Strongs Concordance never uses the word rapture. Because the Origonal grk cannot be translated as such. Grk3346 metathithemi To transfer, transport, exchange, change sides, pervert, carry over, change, remove, turn over. From two grk roots Grk 3326 and Grk 5087
'meta' which means amid, participation in, proximity too and 'Tithemi' which means to be prostrate, to kneel, to sink down, to set forth.
Rapture, Demon, and Trinity are all man made assumptions not Gods word
norvman 1 year ago 5
@norvman where is Enoch?
0871368021 1 year ago
@0871368021
Where does the scripture say he is ?
norvman 1 year ago
@norvman Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
0871368021 1 year ago
@0871368021
Hebrews 11:13 "These ALL DIED in faith, not having received the promises" The Death that Enoch did not see was not his own but the death of all of humanity at the hand of God at the flood. The Greek word Translated definately does not mean raptured it means laid out flat (dead perhaps?)
God did the same thing with Moses. Moses's bones were 'taken' by Micheal the Archangel Jude 1:9
Christ says "no man has seen the father"
John 1:18, John 6:46
norvman 1 year ago
@norvman Hebrews 11:5 that he SHOULD NOT SEE DEATH.. (that is explicit to me...) Elijah has not seen death either for he was taken up....
0871368021 1 year ago
@0871368021 And what difference does it make What YOU find explicit?
your Faith obviously is not concerned with God's truth or it's conveyance to others.
IT IS what YHVH thinks. What Yashua says that is important...
Hebrews 11:3 These ALL DIED in the faith not having recieved the promises
So your insisting that I lissen to YOUR words YOUR beliefs over God's?
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
God says all... YOU say all except Enoch...
I will believe God
norvman 1 year ago
@norvman That is ok that you and i understand differently... we are still both saved by the Grace of Jesus Christ. God knows how much you and i both LOVE HIM. Can you tell me where ELijah is? thank you. And i still believe Enoch did not see death, and will die later... (revelation and the two witnesses). thanks for your comment..I also believe many will not see death in the rapture of the saints be it pre-mid-post.
0871368021 1 year ago
@norvman have you thoughts on the Mount of Transfiguration when Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus... How were Moses or Elijah able to do this before the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ? and why were the Jews asking John the Baptist if he was that prophet Elijah, did the jews at that time understand that Elijah had not died? thank you.
0871368021 1 year ago
@0871368021
The Jews understood that the Elijah must come before the Son of Man can appear. Matt17:12"I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not" Then in v 13 "disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist"
But why send a substitute if Elijah is alive and well? And what is Moses doing in Jerusalem? Was he not banished from entering the Promised land by God?
Note What Yashua says in Matt17:9 "Tell the VISION to no man"
norvman 1 year ago
@norvman Malachi 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD. This has not occurred yet..it's prophetic and still future... we have not entered the tribulation.. Elijah is one of the two witnessess..in Revelation... that is how i understand this. John the Baptist came with the same Spirit of Elijah..he was not Elijah. Elijah will return and he will die and be raise up along with the other witness in book of Revelation.
0871368021 1 year ago
@0871368021 This type of poor translation causes so many misconceptions. Not blaming you but nevertheless let me set the record straight and please don't take my word for it, do the translation yourself. The word translated as Elijah is actually Elyah or El is Yah. The word translated as prophet also means prophecy. So what Malachi is telling us is that the Mighty One is Yahowah, not the Lord, not God, and not Adonai. To call Him by these brings the Creator to the level of what He created.
enigma5mb 1 year ago
@enigma5mb thank you.But why are the jews waiting for Elijah today? And can you explain this verse following,thanks. KJV 1 Corinthians 15:51-53 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
0871368021 1 year ago
@0871368021 You are welcome. The Jews are waiting for Elijah because they believe the lies of their fathers. YHWH tells us through Jeremiah 23:27 that there is (was) a plot to take His Name out of the mouths of His people. This is why Jews teach their children to say the "Sh'ma" (Deut 6:4) using Adonai despite the warning in Deut. 4:2 not to add nor take away from His commands. This plot extended to the Messiah whose true Hebrew name "Yahoshah" means "Yah is salvation".
enigma5mb 1 year ago
@0871368021 As for the scripture you ask about, my response requires much more space than this forum allows. But I will be happy to share my findings on it if you will post your question at my YouTube site. Shalom alechem.
enigma5mb 1 year ago
@0871368021
Christ calls this a vision. These were not the real Moses and Elijah. only visions of them to demonstrate Christ Mastery over them and their offices. before Peter, James, and John. Note 2 peter 1:16-18
" but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
God showing visions is by far, not unique to this event
norvman 1 year ago
@norvman yes, it was a vision.. but my point is this, do you believe there are some that shall not see death but shall be changed? just as we are told in scripture? Do you believe it is possible and biblical that there are some who will not experience physical death before they meet the Lord Jesus Christ? I do.
0871368021 1 year ago
@0871368021
first... Does it mater what 'I' believe? If everyone else believes different than what God believes who is right?
So... what does the scriptures say? 1Corith 15:51"We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed" And in verse 52 "at the last trump" This is a one time event Also note that were as there is no use of the word "Rapture" in scripture, the word "Resurrection" is used some 25 times...
norvman 1 year ago
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Plus note that Paul uses the word "mystery" that is Paul was revealing something new about resurrections So the Idea that someone could be "changed instantly" without experiencing death, was a new concept. Otherwise why use the words "I show you a mystery" ? The resurrection of the dead was not an unknown concept of the time note Acts 23:6-10 but being changed instantly from physical to spiritual was
norvman 1 year ago
@norvman Very true wolves have crept into the church and perverted or twisted the word of God.
RudeAwakning 5 months ago
Halleluyah! preach it rood!
YESHUAISMERCIFUL 2 years ago
anyone writing a book claiming it to be from God and put a price tag on it is NOT serving GOD! THUS SAITH THE LORD....
combatvetlawstudent 2 years ago
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that's misunderstood,, what do you think thithes and offering pay for the Lord said bring all the tithes into my storehouse,, also he told solomon that the money placed in the temple would be for the preist and repairing the building,,, you have to read samuel and 1 and second kings and you need to study the sanctuary
Mslady444 2 years ago
I like Michael Rood's teachings, and I like that he is humble enough to admit where he had been a false teacher in the past, it's a sign of growth. HOWEVER, there is NO COMMANDMENT that says the barley ripening is the indicator of the Beginning of Months - this is where Rood is wrong. Just because the barley isn't ripe, doesn't mean the Beginning of Months changes. Abib 1 begins on Abib 1, with or without ripe barley on the new moon. Shalom!
turkeyfrank 2 years ago 2
i believe in the rapture of the church.i also believe Enoch is a picture of the Bride being taken out before the judgement.However, i have conflict with Noah,who was a righteous man,obedient,and loved God...and yet he was brought through it -yet protected and shielded.Can someone tell me, who does Enoch forshadow and who does Noah forshadow?any help would be great.thanks.
0871368021 2 years ago
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If you read 2 Peter Chapter 2, I believe you will see your answer. Shalom.
reginaDexant 2 years ago 4
The one possibility that so few Christians consider. There are 3 raptures. Pre, Mid and post. Because scriptures are present for all 3 is why we have 3 different vire point. Yet we never accept there can be 3 of them.
OhioDad 2 years ago
I absolutely believe in the Rapture of the Church and then the LORD will exclusively deal with Israel and Jacob. The Time of Jacob's trouble. Read Psalm 12- Help LORD for the good man perishes. I know that the POPE the Babylonian prince of darkness changed the time and seasons (Pope Gregory). I am assured by scripture that the Rapture will take place first-before the tribulation.
reginaDexant 2 years ago
Sadly you will be sadly dissapointed.
AdonaiAngel 2 years ago 3
The Rapture is a doctrine of man. Please research it to see how it came about. There is no pre-tribulation rapture of the righteous. The righteous will be sorely needed during the tribulation.
turkeyfrank 2 years ago 2
amen turkey, there is no pre-trib
YESHUAISMERCIFUL 2 years ago
thanks friend.. will check it out for sure.God Bless you.
0871368021 2 years ago
sorry to tell you but anyone who beleives in Yahshua(aka jesus) IS A PART OF ISRAEL. Romans 11 and 12. We are grafted in. So if you think he's going to "deal with Israel" that means we WILL be here.
YESHUAISMERCIFUL 2 years ago 9
You need to rightly divide the WORD. Those of us who are grafted in Gentiles are Part of Israel, we are you in-laws, so to speak, The Churchk, 'The Bride of Christ, while Israel is the wife (although estranged) of the Father. We are in-laws, like Ruth and Naomi. The tribulation is the time of JACOBS trouble. Jacob is flesh Jew, while Israel represents the Land and the Spiritual Jew in the Bible. I will say Amen to ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED, In the time of Jacob's trouble.Read Isa. 57;1-2 Ps. 12
reginaDexant 2 years ago
@YESHUAISMERCIFUL the Bride is not Israel.
0871368021 1 year ago
@0871368021 sorry, mistake... i meant to say not all ISRAEL is the BRIDE.... thanks.
0871368021 1 year ago
@YESHUAISMERCIFUL Yes and no... or no and yes... depending on how you look at it...
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: 1 Peter 4:17... Our judgement... the called out ones... the Church... the Elect... that is the small flock... not everyone... Is that we are being Judged right now... Judged for what? ... simple... will we follow Gods command or will we not... Read this whole chapter and see if what I say is not true...
norvman 5 months ago
reginaDexant: please study your views on the rapture and its timing. Matthew 24 will be a good starting point when Yahshua says immediately after the tribulation of those days, that lets us know there will be no gathering of the elect before the tribulation. What you are calling the rapture is really the second coming of the Messiyah. He will not make His appearance before the tribulation. Peope will accept the false prophet who are not awake to the truth and looking for a false rapture.
ShemarYAH1 2 years ago 3
@ShemarYAH1 That's right. Parable of sewer and the seed teaches that the tares are gathered together before the righteous are gathered, Mathew 13:30. Israel has already become a member state of the ICRC, which is the antiChrist's creation. The false prophet is Jean Henri Dunant, the founder of the International Red Cross. Israel would never be led by any Christian institution to take anything, especially a mark in their forehead or forearm. Google OneCloudyDayAL and check out my blogs.
OneCloudyDayAL 3 months ago