Merkel outlines Euro summit deal (German)

[SuperLittleHelper]

@Iskanderox hmm as far as i can see we germans are telling you what to do. not the other way round. be nice or we will reduce your wages even more. now go and work for your debt little greek.

[CPS123456]

what Merkel has achieved is truly amazing. The communist parties in Greece now get 40% !

[Iskanderox]

God curse the germany and all the germans..the ruin of the world. They caused the war from 1914 to 1945. They were able to elect democratically people like Hitler, Hess, Himmler and caused an horrible genocide. They are immoral. GOD DESTROY GERMANS !!!

[SuperLittleHelper]

@Iskanderox Hess,Himmler were never elected... WW1 was not caused by germany. ww2 and hitler were a consequence of the dictate of Versailles, the balfour-declaration (jews were the reason for the loss in ww1, money/support/luring the US into the war in exchange for israel) the great depression of 1929 and games of power, especially the british Balance of power. Just check Benjamin Freedman, you have a lot to learn.

[Iskanderox]

@SuperLittleHelper Hahahahahaha shut up Nazi scum

[tasos6471]

fuck your mother merkel

[tasos6471]

merkel gamo to mouni tis mana sou apo tin omorfi elladaaaaaaaaaaa mori poutanas koriiiiiii

[tasos6471]

merkel i hope to die mother fucker and i fuck your grave

[Athenaikos]

Merkel, read my lips. Move your behind and do something, instead of this non-stop nonsense of doing nothing and wanting to be recognized for your out-of-depth experience.

[SuperLittleHelper]

@Athenaikos says the greek? thats funny actually. what should merkel do in your opinion (given the fact that she can not decide everything alone, not even speaking of the support of the german bundestag)

greece on the other hand could leave the eurozone, get back their greek drachma and build up their economy with the help of the eu. we cant "kick out" greece anyway, you have to to that yourself.

[Athenaikos]

@SuperLittleHelper - Have a better idea. Why don't we, the most talented people of Europe, decide what to do and let Merkel follow. I think much more appropriate given the depth of her intelligence gap.

[SuperLittleHelper]

@Athenaikos wow, thats even MORE funny ! how comes, that "being the most talented people of Europe" managed to create an economy that isnt worth anything ? i guess you meant, most talented in terms of financial criminality, that i can understand.

besides that - greece is the country going down the drain, not germany. greece needs the money from germany, france and others, why should greece have anything to say here? you should leave the eurozone or let us show you how to run a economy.

[SuperLittleHelper]

@Athenaikos well this is apparently not the case, even though i respect the ANCIENT greece culture a lot. what do you mean by "your banking system", this is a european, hell, even a global system, question is however, what are we willing to spend to a country that is apparently not able to finance itself the next 10-20 years? does it make more sense to just cut the rope and let greece go bancrupt and focus on the other countries that can at least generate growth and still got some hope?

[Athenaikos]

@SuperLittleHelper - Well cut the rope and see what happens. Your world will go dark.

[SuperLittleHelper]

@Athenaikos you say you dont need money, yeah right, if you dont need it... you are going broke and cant pay your bills anymore, not just the for the debt but also your whole state and social system will dry out. there is no other way, either you leave the eurozone or you need to be financed by the other eu countries, with every loss of financial sovereignty that comes with that.

[Athenaikos]

@SuperLittleHelper - In case you don't know, all Greece is doing is rolling over existing debt like all other countries do. Who told you that you are financing Greece and at a cost to the German taxpayer? These are all loans like everybody else is getting. And Germany is the biggest financial transgressor since it was the first country to break the treaties and violate mandated debt to GDP ratios. The propaganda you are spreading is a clear sign of financial illiteracy.

[SuperLittleHelper]

@Athenaikos thats only half the truth, first of all, with the help of goldman sachs and fraud numbers you got into the eurozone in the first place. secondly, your main problem is your huge deficit, which basically means, that you cant even pay your rolling over existing debt without help, not even speaking of other public spending. the other eu countries have to bail you out, basically saying, give those greeks some money, if they cant pay it back, we will do. about world going dark: Hedgefonds!

[Athenaikos]

@SuperLittleHelper - Give me 0% interest and I can repay all the Greek debt within 5 years. The hedge funds do what they are supposed to do. They hedge against a certain event and they make or lose money.

[SuperLittleHelper]

@Athenaikos in 5 years? how ?

[Athenaikos]

@SuperLittleHelper - by making each year a 50 Bil. euro repayment, or whatever repayment is needed as the existing bonds roll over. Why is this so complicated.

[SuperLittleHelper]

@Athenaikos because it makes no sense as long as your economy and state budget have a huge deficit and are still declining. people are just not willing to give you the money, i am speaking about the investors here. thats like trying to put out a flame with throwing bundles of money on it.

[SuperLittleHelper]

@Athenaikos didnt you realize that the banks are massively charging-off greek investments and people are actually investing in hedgefonds, CDS , so they would actually make huge money out of a bankrupt greece? dont worry about the financial gurus, they adapt really fast to every situation. a drachma greece with be better for greece AND the eu, a bankrupt euro greece would also be controllable, a permanent parasite money receiver is the worst choice. so, in this point we agree actually.

[zahnpastacremetube]

@Athenaikos

You are right, Greeks are smart, but not smarter than any other nation on earth.

At least al my greek friends are smart enough not to be a nationalist like you are.

Let's just change the rules in greece and lead it to a better and brighter future.

[SuperLittleHelper]

@zahnpastacremetube sure, but what is the actual greek position of the people themselves ? do you want to stay in the EUROzone, do you want your drachma back ? do you want to get money without end? care to elaborate, please.

[zahnpastacremetube]

@SuperLittleHelper

The majority wants to stay in the Eurozone. But the greeks suffer a lot at the moment. They don't know how to pay their rents, or the oil for the heating this winter. And in this situation of course they are losing hope. Greece was never a rich country but at least they had the basic things and did not starve.

[SuperLittleHelper]

@zahnpastacremetube i understand, but this really is a dilemma. staying in the eurozone means just that hard suffering, because you have to cut everything to be able to compete against the other eurozone members, at the same time you are supposed to generate economic growth, not even speaking of the fact that those are all loans you are supposed to pay back someday - mission impossible...

what speaks against getting back the drachma, devalue+haircut, get on your foots again and rejoin euro?

[SuperLittleHelper]

@SuperLittleHelper *feet again , rusty english.

[zahnpastacremetube]

@SuperLittleHelper I personally think going out than back in again creates to much "friction losses". If the rules are set wisely, and foremost control gets stronger in Greece so that the laws are actually put into effect, there will be good results soon. Good laws where already there before, but nobody did obey. Actually this crisis can be a chance for Greece, because there are highly educated and hard working people how never had a chance, because of the system.

[SuperLittleHelper]

@zahnpastacremetube thats the hope we all have.

but another bad side in reality to that is: the rich greeks are transfering trillions to switzerland, instead of helping the country and pay taxes AND the highly qualified, especially the young greeks are moving out of the country. in germany we have an increase in nearly 100% of greek people moving to germany, other troubled countries like spain etc around 50% increase. may help us, but thats not good for greece.

[zahnpastacremetube]

@SuperLittleHelper

In the moment they see a chance to make a living in Greece they will go back to Greece, I'm quite sure. And they will return with a whole lot more of experience than they had before. In comparison Germany is a very colorful, international country, which helps in times of globalization, but Greece is not. People rarely leave the country not even for holidays, there nearly no immigrants only maybe Albanians. Its always good to get experience abroad.

[Athenaikos]

@zahnpastacremetube - all you greek friends are not special. I am. So quit talking about my country before I make olive paste out of you and the other Merkel terrorists of dubious origin. Comprende?

[zahnpastacremetube]

@Athenaikos Γιατί μιλάς έτσι; Εισαι τρελός;

[SuperLittleHelper]

@zahnpastacremetube i agree, he seems a bit crazy ;)

[zahnpastacremetube]

@SuperLittleHelper ;-)

[Athenaikos]

@SuperLittleHelper - LOL, an onscure german and a Turk agree on something. Let me guess. Genocide?

[SuperLittleHelper]

@Athenaikos "onscure" ? you mean obscure? and why genocide? we still need you to pay back our money.

[zahnpastacremetube]

@SuperLittleHelper

I'm still wondering: Who of us is the "onscure" German and who is the Turk? Do you know/understand? Cause I'm neither, don't even know what onscure means... ;-)

[Athenaikos]

@zahnpastacremetube - Something wrong with your Google translate?

[zahnpastacremetube]

@Athenaikos Δεν νομίζω, όλα καλά με το google μου. Γιατί ρωτάς;

Δεν μιλάς ελληνικά;

[stronghold10a]

this woman didn't had a sleep for weeks. Look at their eyes. Yes all this euro horse crap is going down. you can try to lock us up into this phony treaty, but all the cards are laid on the table and it's looking very bad for you euro-mindeless-crats...

[SolidSnakeRD]

@stronghold10a her eyes have always been that way