She seemed lie an aspie when i watched her videos. But neither of us realy know. The whole diagnoses was just recently created and is still subject to contreversy. It's a little early for us to start chelenging who is and who isn't based on superficial observations, I think.
Perhaps in twenty years we'll know a little more about what we are dealing with.
Sorry it would only let me post 500 characters at a time, and I tend to get wordy, so I had to split my post into several different ones. Hope they all came through and make sense :-)
i was wondering if you had any advise on being offishally diagnosed? my parents were tald i had aspergers by a educalal sycologist but no one profeshaly has told me and on all my statments and stuff it just says is sespected of have aspergers, it's very frustrating becouse it would explain a lot but i can't just say i have it when noone has propally riten it down. many people say go to your docotor but i just can't do that, ok it might sound stupid but i just wouldn't be able to do it. thanks
And hey-- I'm a nice, pretty, smart, self confident (but ever humble) lady, who tries hard to be a part of the community despite my social anxieties-- maybe that's why i have friends/lover/social skills? i practiced. cognitive behavioral therapy can be the bomb.
You are also very modest by the sounds of it lol. Anyway I sent you a message yesterday and still no reply. My friend has AS and is very good at art also. CBT is a cheap way of counselling someone I do not believe in it as it doesn't get to the route of the problem as conventional methods. But if it worked for you then great.
I'm not your lab rat, I'm not out to prove anything to you, and my artwork and accomplishments are hardly proof that I'm not mildly autistic! they just show that despite all that shit, I'm awesome! you should get out there and celebrate how you are awesome, too, rather than wasting time and bandwidth with this prattle. or maybe you have a career in tabloid literature?
I agree some severe Autistics can draw amazing detail when it comes to buildings etc. I don't know what shit you went through. I know that you are very modest LOL. You say you are Pretty, but you are not talking to an NT here. You are talking to an Aspie who looks beyond the shell. Your videos seems to contrast each other. The one of you in a Bikini and the one of you talking about AS. A lot of others feel the same way if you look at your coments. I may be wrong though!!
Hi there, dude. Hope you're doing well. I am inclined to make a list about the ways you're mistaken about me, but suffice to say, you've never met me, so you can't be an authority on the topic. your speculation is based on information found on the internet. the truth is i'm an actual human being and i chose to share part of a very personal struggle with the world. i don't regret that decision, but i hope if you can gain nothing from it you would at least have the human decency to move on.
You have never met me either. I want to ask you one thing were you behind that smere campaign to do with Encyclopedia Dramatica. Because it all started when I said one word against your video. It just seemed very odd to me. Like you I never give up and I never forget. I will find who was behind it and when I do GOD HELP THEM!!! My Speculation is based on me actually getting Diagnosed in 2004. Also running a Forum for 9 years on the topic an talking to others with AS.
"Asperger syndrome - one study suggested that up to 80% of those with Asperger syndrome also meet the criteria for NLD."
or Nonverbal Learning Disorder and just 20% of the people who fit the Diagnostic Criterias of High Functioning Autism. I know, in the English Speaking countries, AS and HFA is toled to be the same. You know a lot about autism, but you should also read the studies. I would guess in the way you describe it, that you had a speach delay (maybe not), I had however.
" Now I have seen a lot on youtube that claim to hbave th condition yet do not have a photographic memory"
Aspergers, who start to speak very early have more often Nonverbal Learning Disorder who goes along with a high IQ in verbal memory, but difficulties in processing visual information. Not all autistics have this however, but is more commen in people with people with Asperger's syndrome and not so commen with people of classical Autism.
i think somehow, we should stop to mangle each other or deny each others diagnosises. I donn't care, if someone is less autistic or more autistic or not autistic, as far as a person is a part of the community that fights for our rights. And no one gets really sympathy for having asperger's, it's more a damage for your career, if anyone finds out.
obsession with parts of a toy is instead of a child playing with a truck as a truck (vroom vroom on the floor) they are only interested in spinning a wheel and watching it spin.
I think there are many out there that have AS traits but ARE NOT dibiliatated by them. It is the saverity of the sympotms that determin the diagnosis. There are also people who have traits but IT IS NOT AS that causes it. You need a trained doctor to make a true "diagnosis". End of story (in my opinion) PS- I don't go around telling people what they do and don't have. i don't think that's my place.
"I've never had this problem because I've been brought up like an NT"
So was bikini artist I believe, she mentioned not being diagnosed until her twenties.
I wasn't diagnosed until my twenties either and nobody (save a few very perceptive people) would ever imagine that I'm autistic. I've become very good at acting and have learned how to done down my "oddness" in public.
In this video you're using gestures which shows we CAN learn to do what doesn't come naturally.
I also was brought up as an NT. But really nomatter how you are brought up you can still have melt downs and still find it hard in crowds. I would say Bikini has it mild very mild.
I'm glad I was raised as an NT. I think if I was treated "SPECIAL" I wouldn't have learned the things that I did learn and I would be struggling far more worst, today.
I agree with you Name I have noticed so many Aspies that were wrapped in cotton wool that can't even so much as boil an egg or do simple banking. Also AS is a Syndrome which is a collection of Disorders anyway one of which can be Tourettes or ADD. The entire unbrella of Autism is called PDD or Pervasive Development. I still do not think she has it. Aspie World was rude to me on her video so I blocked him.
as far as the photographic memory, I used to have a photographic memory until I was taking a particular epilepsy medication and it really messed me up. It has been a long time since I was on it, and I am gaining it back but I don't know if I will ever be the same.
I am losing it now lol. It was not an advantage at college either as it caused jealousy from others. I got decent marks in all my exams and enjoyed doing the work. Needless to say this did not appear to sit well with the Teachers or Students especially as I got the work done well before time. I never found the work boring and I found it stimulating. Where as NTs just wanted to get the grades I got absorbed in the work.
I don't think what normal people are calling lack of empathy is lack of empathy at all. I consider myself very empathetic (when I am able to properly interpret people's emotions) it's just that they might consider me not very empathetic bc I don't use alot of facial expressions.
What they mean is that you don't empathise with the usual bull shit that people say to you. I personally do not care for peoples problems unless they care for mine. For instance people expect you to listen, but then do not listen when you have something to say. That infuriates me. Also when they finish your sentence like they are waiting for you to stop talking. Online its the same I have helped loads of people, but when I needed help they were too busy. So now I look after no 1
I think the lack of empithy in regards to autism refers to a lack of being able to "feel" for the other person- Example- A coworkers tells you "My mother died this weekend." You may say the words "I'm sorry about that" and that's as far as your thought process/feelings go whereas other coworkers may do things or say things to the person throughout the day or week to console him or her.
It's very hard for my to emphasize for others. It takes a lot of hard thinking to feel for someone, which is rare for me. And I bet, for males, it's probably almost absolete.
Depending on the subject matter, yes. For example, is someone and I were talking about a medicine killed and I were to say why they were bad and then another said why they were good, I could clearly understand the fact why they would think so, but would still think the medicine was bad as well.
Somehow I'm always angry or sad, when I'm not. I don't use a lot of facial expressions, either. I do get angry, especially when people, for example my husband, keep on asking, "Are you okay? Are you mad? What's wrong? Are you sure something is not bothering you? Are you sure?" Then I lash out back at him, "Now there's something wrong, because you won't stop asking me all these retarded questions! I'm fine!!!" LOL After a year and a half, he has gotten more use to me... :)
I think its far easier for females with AS to get someone and be in a relationship. Where as Men find it hard who have AS as we are expected to make all the moves
Perhaps you're right, or perhaps you're partially right about some females. I have found that most males usually assume that all females can do this, just like a most females assume all males just care about sex. A lot of females try to go after men that they can't just get. Whether it be that the girls are fat, ugly, or the man is just 100% loyal to his gf/wife. One thing that is true, however, if nearly all woman were to open their legs, most men would get on top, but it's opposite for woman.
I'm sorry, I didn't say it right. When I said co-morbid, I meant another illness on top of Asperger's Syndrome. A lot of Autistics have other illnesses next to Autism itself, making it co-morbid. I was saying that she probably has AS and ADHD. If you have just Asperger's alone, here in America, you usually won't get a disability check. I'm pretty sure, here, you have to have a co-morbid illness. That's why I gave you a link to read about co-morbid illnesses with AS. :)
She seemed lie an aspie when i watched her videos. But neither of us realy know. The whole diagnoses was just recently created and is still subject to contreversy. It's a little early for us to start chelenging who is and who isn't based on superficial observations, I think.
Perhaps in twenty years we'll know a little more about what we are dealing with.
milascave 1 year ago
i agree with aspergianstar fully x
lainybee1987 1 year ago
Sorry it would only let me post 500 characters at a time, and I tend to get wordy, so I had to split my post into several different ones. Hope they all came through and make sense :-)
Sillygoose731 1 year ago
I think she's an aspie. Even in that video where she's jumping around, you can tell somethings off about her.
jethomp333 1 year ago
i was wondering if you had any advise on being offishally diagnosed? my parents were tald i had aspergers by a educalal sycologist but no one profeshaly has told me and on all my statments and stuff it just says is sespected of have aspergers, it's very frustrating becouse it would explain a lot but i can't just say i have it when noone has propally riten it down. many people say go to your docotor but i just can't do that, ok it might sound stupid but i just wouldn't be able to do it. thanks
01stanbk 2 years ago
And hey-- I'm a nice, pretty, smart, self confident (but ever humble) lady, who tries hard to be a part of the community despite my social anxieties-- maybe that's why i have friends/lover/social skills? i practiced. cognitive behavioral therapy can be the bomb.
dont be a chicken and not approve my comments!
bikiniartist 2 years ago 3
You are also very modest by the sounds of it lol. Anyway I sent you a message yesterday and still no reply. My friend has AS and is very good at art also. CBT is a cheap way of counselling someone I do not believe in it as it doesn't get to the route of the problem as conventional methods. But if it worked for you then great.
Aspergianstar2009 2 years ago
LOL As if I would treat you like that I have been awaiting in anticipation all your comments
Isaacaswq 2 years ago
I'm not your lab rat, I'm not out to prove anything to you, and my artwork and accomplishments are hardly proof that I'm not mildly autistic! they just show that despite all that shit, I'm awesome! you should get out there and celebrate how you are awesome, too, rather than wasting time and bandwidth with this prattle. or maybe you have a career in tabloid literature?
bikiniartist 2 years ago 3
I agree some severe Autistics can draw amazing detail when it comes to buildings etc. I don't know what shit you went through. I know that you are very modest LOL. You say you are Pretty, but you are not talking to an NT here. You are talking to an Aspie who looks beyond the shell. Your videos seems to contrast each other. The one of you in a Bikini and the one of you talking about AS. A lot of others feel the same way if you look at your coments. I may be wrong though!!
Aspergianstar2009 2 years ago
Hi there, dude. Hope you're doing well. I am inclined to make a list about the ways you're mistaken about me, but suffice to say, you've never met me, so you can't be an authority on the topic. your speculation is based on information found on the internet. the truth is i'm an actual human being and i chose to share part of a very personal struggle with the world. i don't regret that decision, but i hope if you can gain nothing from it you would at least have the human decency to move on.
bikiniartist 2 years ago 4
You have never met me either. I want to ask you one thing were you behind that smere campaign to do with Encyclopedia Dramatica. Because it all started when I said one word against your video. It just seemed very odd to me. Like you I never give up and I never forget. I will find who was behind it and when I do GOD HELP THEM!!! My Speculation is based on me actually getting Diagnosed in 2004. Also running a Forum for 9 years on the topic an talking to others with AS.
Aspergianstar2009 2 years ago
From wikipedia:
"Asperger syndrome - one study suggested that up to 80% of those with Asperger syndrome also meet the criteria for NLD."
or Nonverbal Learning Disorder and just 20% of the people who fit the Diagnostic Criterias of High Functioning Autism. I know, in the English Speaking countries, AS and HFA is toled to be the same. You know a lot about autism, but you should also read the studies. I would guess in the way you describe it, that you had a speach delay (maybe not), I had however.
GingerAutie 2 years ago
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You wrote on the sidebar:
" Now I have seen a lot on youtube that claim to hbave th condition yet do not have a photographic memory"
Aspergers, who start to speak very early have more often Nonverbal Learning Disorder who goes along with a high IQ in verbal memory, but difficulties in processing visual information. Not all autistics have this however, but is more commen in people with people with Asperger's syndrome and not so commen with people of classical Autism.
GingerAutie 2 years ago
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GingerAutie 2 years ago
i think somehow, we should stop to mangle each other or deny each others diagnosises. I donn't care, if someone is less autistic or more autistic or not autistic, as far as a person is a part of the community that fights for our rights. And no one gets really sympathy for having asperger's, it's more a damage for your career, if anyone finds out.
best wishes, k.
kovskaja 2 years ago
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Timelord6661 2 years ago
I do not think she has it so thats just my opinion I am saying in my opinion.
Aspergianstar2009 2 years ago
obsession with parts of a toy is instead of a child playing with a truck as a truck (vroom vroom on the floor) they are only interested in spinning a wheel and watching it spin.
Saguaro24 2 years ago
I think there are many out there that have AS traits but ARE NOT dibiliatated by them. It is the saverity of the sympotms that determin the diagnosis. There are also people who have traits but IT IS NOT AS that causes it. You need a trained doctor to make a true "diagnosis". End of story (in my opinion) PS- I don't go around telling people what they do and don't have. i don't think that's my place.
Saguaro24 2 years ago
"I've never had this problem because I've been brought up like an NT"
So was bikini artist I believe, she mentioned not being diagnosed until her twenties.
I wasn't diagnosed until my twenties either and nobody (save a few very perceptive people) would ever imagine that I'm autistic. I've become very good at acting and have learned how to done down my "oddness" in public.
In this video you're using gestures which shows we CAN learn to do what doesn't come naturally.
Einalem1981 2 years ago
I also was brought up as an NT. But really nomatter how you are brought up you can still have melt downs and still find it hard in crowds. I would say Bikini has it mild very mild.
Aspergianstar2009 2 years ago
I'm glad I was raised as an NT. I think if I was treated "SPECIAL" I wouldn't have learned the things that I did learn and I would be struggling far more worst, today.
NamekianPikkoro7 2 years ago
I agree with you Name I have noticed so many Aspies that were wrapped in cotton wool that can't even so much as boil an egg or do simple banking. Also AS is a Syndrome which is a collection of Disorders anyway one of which can be Tourettes or ADD. The entire unbrella of Autism is called PDD or Pervasive Development. I still do not think she has it. Aspie World was rude to me on her video so I blocked him.
Aspergianstar2009 2 years ago
as far as the photographic memory, I used to have a photographic memory until I was taking a particular epilepsy medication and it really messed me up. It has been a long time since I was on it, and I am gaining it back but I don't know if I will ever be the same.
castaway 2 years ago
I am losing it now lol. It was not an advantage at college either as it caused jealousy from others. I got decent marks in all my exams and enjoyed doing the work. Needless to say this did not appear to sit well with the Teachers or Students especially as I got the work done well before time. I never found the work boring and I found it stimulating. Where as NTs just wanted to get the grades I got absorbed in the work.
Aspergianstar2009 2 years ago
I don't think what normal people are calling lack of empathy is lack of empathy at all. I consider myself very empathetic (when I am able to properly interpret people's emotions) it's just that they might consider me not very empathetic bc I don't use alot of facial expressions.
castaway 2 years ago
What they mean is that you don't empathise with the usual bull shit that people say to you. I personally do not care for peoples problems unless they care for mine. For instance people expect you to listen, but then do not listen when you have something to say. That infuriates me. Also when they finish your sentence like they are waiting for you to stop talking. Online its the same I have helped loads of people, but when I needed help they were too busy. So now I look after no 1
Aspergianstar2009 2 years ago
I think the lack of empithy in regards to autism refers to a lack of being able to "feel" for the other person- Example- A coworkers tells you "My mother died this weekend." You may say the words "I'm sorry about that" and that's as far as your thought process/feelings go whereas other coworkers may do things or say things to the person throughout the day or week to console him or her.
Saguaro24 2 years ago
It's very hard for my to emphasize for others. It takes a lot of hard thinking to feel for someone, which is rare for me. And I bet, for males, it's probably almost absolete.
NamekianPikkoro7 2 years ago
Is it hard for you to see things from another persons perspective /point of view?
Saguaro24 2 years ago
Depending on the subject matter, yes. For example, is someone and I were talking about a medicine killed and I were to say why they were bad and then another said why they were good, I could clearly understand the fact why they would think so, but would still think the medicine was bad as well.
Empathy though, yeah right... That's so hard.
NamekianPikkoro7 2 years ago
The last paragraph I typed was a bit awkward. I hope you understood what I meant, lol. It's getting towards my bedtime.
NamekianPikkoro7 2 years ago
Somehow I'm always angry or sad, when I'm not. I don't use a lot of facial expressions, either. I do get angry, especially when people, for example my husband, keep on asking, "Are you okay? Are you mad? What's wrong? Are you sure something is not bothering you? Are you sure?" Then I lash out back at him, "Now there's something wrong, because you won't stop asking me all these retarded questions! I'm fine!!!" LOL After a year and a half, he has gotten more use to me... :)
NamekianPikkoro7 2 years ago
I think its far easier for females with AS to get someone and be in a relationship. Where as Men find it hard who have AS as we are expected to make all the moves
Aspergianstar2009 2 years ago
Perhaps you're right, or perhaps you're partially right about some females. I have found that most males usually assume that all females can do this, just like a most females assume all males just care about sex. A lot of females try to go after men that they can't just get. Whether it be that the girls are fat, ugly, or the man is just 100% loyal to his gf/wife. One thing that is true, however, if nearly all woman were to open their legs, most men would get on top, but it's opposite for woman.
NamekianPikkoro7 2 years ago
the fact you shared this makes me think that you are in some way accusing me but i was officially diagnosed
chezequerz 2 years ago
I am not accusing you if you are fully diagnosed then great. I am simply saying I do not think she is a full Aspie
Aspergianstar2009 2 years ago
good point, ;)
Ashenicky2009 2 years ago
Could well be the only difference is one is a chemical imbalance in the brain and the other is neurobiological
Aspergianstar2009 2 years ago
I read about comorbid illness in the spectrum. Perhaps she has adhd. I was diagnosed with this once.
NamekianPikkoro7 2 years ago 4
I believe that is more like what she has and a lot of people are being rediagnosed with AS that were diagnosed in the 80s and 90s with ADD or ADHD
Aspergianstar2009 2 years ago
I'm sorry, I didn't say it right. When I said co-morbid, I meant another illness on top of Asperger's Syndrome. A lot of Autistics have other illnesses next to Autism itself, making it co-morbid. I was saying that she probably has AS and ADHD. If you have just Asperger's alone, here in America, you usually won't get a disability check. I'm pretty sure, here, you have to have a co-morbid illness. That's why I gave you a link to read about co-morbid illnesses with AS. :)
NamekianPikkoro7 2 years ago