I am so grateful someone has the GUTS to think and to say it out loud to all. So true what he says about state-capitalism in the USA--do your own research. I have done mine and come to conclude that it's much worse than Chomsky actually describes!
@Tsugua21 He's not a Democrat, so he think Obama message is just as empty. (As do I) I suggest a second listen. Chomsky a huge critic of Obama as well as Bush. Lot's of vids on that if you float round the tube awhile.
@IshakElias Read my other criticisms of Chomsky. They are incisive and thought-provoking. I have abandoned all attemtpts of legitimate criticism of the man, because leftists refuse to countenance even the mildest criticism of their ivory-tower messiah.
I love Chomsky's work and his ideas. But he's very weak in the most important area: what is to be done? Okay, we get it. We know things are fucked up. What do we do about it? We need fewer books telling us things are fucked up and more books on what we do about it. Philosophers and linguists have only interpreted the world; the point is to change it.
@thenewmiLONNIEum It shouldn't be beyond anyone to know what to do after identifying a problem. Obviously you act against it through the means that are disposible to people. As in most things it is done through politics, that's the arena where the troubles are formed and virtually unopposed.
@thenewmiLONNIEum Education is among the "things that must be done for change" not to mention the sickest part... We know what needs to be done. It's simple. We just lack the organization and/or courage to do it. It's like Chomsky says. And like Chomsky says it's only privileged people that stop to ask "what do we do?" When things are actually bad, and you can do something about it, People do it. So what to do? Form Groups, Educate, Use the power you have. Not blame others.
@Magenta408 The irony is there are, it's just Noam is one of a few that have been able to pierce the media black-out. However, Chomsky is famous but the media still are slow to recognise him.
@Magenta408 The sad thing is that there are many out there like him, but, as he said, they all are sitting by themselves in front of the TV not realizing that they aren't alone in realizing something is horribly wrong.
He is absolutley right I think. It's like those slogans saying "they are fighting for our freedom". Nobody is against OUR freedom, nor are the troops anywhere fighting for our freedom. First you have to define "freedom", next you have to point out who is threatening it. The only people hindering our actions are the ones running our own society, and there is no external force threatening our will to act. This is nothing but propaganda.
@mattymraz Exactly. "The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over." --Joseph Goebbels
Oh and Chomsky I know people who "support our troops" but did not support Bush's or the US policy. So for me this fails because I do not think he gives the average person enough credit. I think he is right that some people in the public relations industry do try and sell their politics (democrat and republican) (conservative and liberal) Some of what he says is right but again he does not give regular people any credit and it is not the way I think.
@MrBlackhaw You miss the point. "Die for your country" is really "die for your government". That's basically what Chomsky is saying. Yes, maybe you support the poor idiots who've decided to join the military, but at the end of the day they're just a bunch of poor disillusioned chumps.
@Boomoutgothelights "poor disillusioned chumps". Look, I hate that flag-waving, ribbon-wearing, nationalistic crap just as much as you do; really I do. But to lump them all as 'chumps' or suckers is quite a generalization. Many who join do so because they might not have other options or might use their years in the military to further their career opportunities and betterment when they re-join the private sector. And some feel they need the discipline. I do feel ya, but be a bit reasonable.
@MyceliaProductions42 your comment exemplifies the way of thinking that is both needed and finally gaining real momentum- in large part with the recent 'occupy' movement. when i heard they had a print newspaper coming out of the occupied wall street, i was ecstatic. when i heard just a few days later that there were other occupy sectors, each cooperating to tackle the issues most important to their areas, i felt, well, 'proud to be an american' if you will, hahaha.
Of course the marketing worked, how did GW get re-elected? There are many people capable of critical thinking, but maybe that has not reached 'critical mass'? Or it's reflective of the apathy of those who do know the government are puppets of corporate lobbyists, and no difference dems or reps. Still have to try to vote for the 'lesser evil' and at least be able to hold others words to account. . .
@MrBlackhaw Exactly. Mr. Chomsky would have been more correct to say "saying I support the troops means nothing to ME, personally, because military service or pride in one's nation are two concepts that are completely foreign to, and divorced from, my priveliged, elite, academic ivory-tower reality."
Yes the US was involved in WWII after being bombed by Japan. I guess it was a bad thing to be against hitler. Maybe putting words in your mouth but I find it hard to argue against US involvement in WWII. I never said the US is perfect. The US has done some negative things. But to say all the world is vying for peace except the US is ignorant. the US gets blamed for some things because it actually tried to do something. Often Europe and other countries don't care enough to be involved.
I think the best thing that Chomsky does is to encourage us to think for ourselves. As children we ask questions and think for ourselves, but this value is stolen from us as we grow older. My impression of Chomsky is that he has been thinking for himslef for a long time.
What is wrong with supporting the troops? They do not make the laws. Sure it is politics but one can easily think beyond just that and support the troops. Chomsky acts like everyoen is an idiot or can't see past slogans.
@MrBlackhaw No there is nothing wrong with supporting your troops, there is however something terribly wrong with your constant warmaking. The rest of the world (with few exceptions) are trrying to obtain world peace whereas every American president after WWI has been in somekind of war or created a military conflict.
@Ganbertuli give me a break. All the world is vying for peace except for the US. Probably Israel is not either. Give me a break. I would never say that the US is perfect but this is just a load of crap. The middle east would be in war with or without US intervention. And the US did not create WWII. Europe did. I think someone has some blinders on.
@MrBlackhaw Noone said the US created WWII but as I said they were involved in it. It is a known fact that the United States has overthrown democratic governments, and replaced them with totalitarian leaders as they did for instance in Chile. Are you denying this or didnt you know?
"This is the only society that doesn't have national healthcare"... and yet we have been a superpower for the last 100 years. In fact, America has been the richest, freest, best nation for a long time, compared to the rest of the world. We use slogans because they're easy to remember and say and put on stuff.
Support our Troops: means that even if you don't agree with the war policy, honor the men and women fighting and dying in your name. Saying it means nothing is kind of ungrateful...
@DRsideburns lol you're so blinded, yes maybe the US is richest and strongest nation in the world, but then why don't they have the best overall happiness? US citizens look at their nation and see a beast which they cant deny greatness, but they look past the fact it's still a beast.
@DRsideburns You've only been a 'super power' for the past 50 years, freest? you have the largest prison population in the world. Money means absolutely nothing when the only people that have it are the top braket, you have 30 million people that can't afford to access healthcare. Some of the worst worker rights in the west and a corrupt government hardly the 'best nation'.
@DRsideburns your not right. USA is not the most free country in the world and it's far from the best nation (Norway is according to the UN). You may like USA but that doesnt change the facts that your country is an imperialistic country run not by the good american people but by large corporations. That is why you will find that outside of your country nobody likes your foreignpolitics. Besides lets remember that AMERICA is a continent not a nation.
fargonbastedge - Perhaps you should put down the donuts, get out of the recliner and do some real research before opening your pie hole. Mr. Chomsky has dedicated a great deal of his life researching issues related to the United States' foreign policy. Furthermore, he's actually traveled to many of the places to see for himself what is/was going on. He backs up his statements with facts that anyone can research and confirm for themselves. Silly monkey - still don't get it do you?
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His whole speech here is based on the notion that jihad plays no role in the world today.
I suggest Chomsky reads the Koran. It will then become more clear as to why whats going on in the world today.
Mumbai attacks in India? Moscow suicide bombing in Russia? Still going to blame American foreign policy? lol silly liberals, no matter how hard they try they just dont get it.
Perhaps you should put down the donuts, get out of the recliner and do some real research before opening your pie hole. Mr. Chomsky has dedicated a great deal of his life researching issues related to the United States' foreign policy. Furthermore, he's actually traveled to many of the places to see for himself what is/was going on. He backs up his statements with facts that anyone can research and confirm for themselves. Silly monkey - still don't get it do you?
Also, the point about Unions last victory in 1935 also is also good.
This is a productive time for the right.
The Republicans are taking advanatage of the still weakened national economy and poor state economies across the nation to attack unions and destroy as many programs as possible.
Wisconsin is a clear example recently where the unions are digging in their heels and fighting the Governor there.
@tanvo93 Haven't followed recently but last I heard they passed the bill stripping collecting bargaining rights to state workers and a Judge had ruled against it.
@MultiSmartass1 i also saw that scott walker (koch sucker) and his "adminstration" was enforcing the bill even though the judge ruled against it..calling the way the bill (how it was passed) basically wrong..since he really didnt vote on it and jsut ramed it through..a really desperate attempt..and u can see he's corralating with these big corporations to the point where hes just ramming shit through
@Xenthoid I agree, Chomsky is the great philosopher of our age. I apologize if I misunderstood the intention of your comment in the other video, my English is still not perfect and I sometimes miss the nuances.
@truthslap That's fine..however, I didn't even realize that i was talking to the same person on both vids. Yeah, he is definitely one of great intellectuals of our time..
@Xenthoid I didn't assume you did, I just recognized your name and addressed my previous misunderstanding. I agree Chomsky is one of the most noteworthy intellectuals of our time.
Chomsky's thinking is not so common which is why he has such a tremendous following and of course his thinking is clear, which I think is stating the obivious.
@bobshenix well, first of all, Chomsky was raised Jewish, he's now an atheist. He believes that gods are the most authoritarian power structure there is, or at least towards the top of the list. as for the connection to ron paul,that's just factually incorrect. Paul believes in libertarianism, so no gov't intervention in corporate affairs, which Chomsky is vehemently against.
@benizbitchin has Chomsky ever specifically wrote that he was an atheist? I've not come across it in any of his books, and I recall in an interview he said he wasn't aware of quite what it was he was suppose to be "believing in" or not believing in, the whole issue being so unclear and universally different. there are many traditional anarchists and Marxists who are ardently atheist, but Chomsky is not a hard-line anything, he's rational and only presumes what he reasonably can.
@truthslap I think you are referring to the "Science in the Dock" interview. From what I can tell, Chomsky is loathe to subscribe to any "ism" at all. But to put it simply, yes. There are other interviews on religion in which he says his view is that one shouldn't hold irrational beliefs, including those regarding the existence supernatural deities like the god of Abraham. He is not agnostic either, so there you have it.
@Diderooot I don't think I quite "have it" there. you'd have to direct me to an interview, not where he says one shouldn't hold irrational beliefs, but specifically that he believes those views regarding "the god of Abraham" to be such. I do assume that as a rational person he is indeed agnostic, I cannot believe that Chomsky would profess knowledge of anything that he doesn't know.
@truthslap In the "sci in the dock" interview (and elsewhere), he pokes fun at agnosticism. I couldn't remember where he replied directly to a question about the "God of Abraham" (might've been in one of david barsamian's books), but he does as much in the "Tablet Q&A" interview. There's an obscure ZNet forum post by chomsky where he says his preferred anarchist society would subscribe to "no gods, no masters" - can't put links in comments, unfortunately. Message me for a link, if you'd like.
@Diderooot I'll check out the Tablet Q&A interview, but as for his post on "no gods, no masters" that is a traditional anarchist slogan, which surely we can all agree with as rational, secular people. I will not serve anybody's gods or masters, that is the point of anarchist society, but that's not an argument against personal faith. also there is a reasonable difference, at least in my mind, between knowing that something cannot be proven and knowing that something is false.
@truthslap Also, atheism doesn't "profess knowledge" about things that aren't known. What it is, instead, is a worldview in which claims about the existence of deities must meet the standard burden of justification that any other claim about the world must meet. If the existence of god can't meet the burden (aka, there is no evidence), then there is no god. Ditto for unicorns, lamarckian inheritance, etc. Of course, that conclusion is provisional, just like every other conclusion one holds
@Diderooot I recall reading Chomsky's commentaries on "Priest and Prophet" in his Language and Politics book, where he maintains the difference between genuinely inspired, faithful people who eschew money and state (prophets), and those who maintain the status quo and indoctrinate people with state religion (priests). Everybody has faith in something, everybody would say their faith is real to them. Please send me the links.
@truthslap He's repeatedly, though I admit not as frequently as most other statements, that he (this is probably not exact) believes that people should believe in things as rationally as possible, see: Chomsky on Religion (Interview), another video on Youtube.
I pretty much agree with your comment, my older comment was a little silly.
@bobshenix in regards to israel and Zionism you can add Norman Finkelestein and David Duke (he's racist but his videos about zionism are very informative and truthful)
It's interesting you mention David Duke because just a couple days ago i saw his video "How Zionists Divide And Conquer" on YT and although there is an obvious bias (he is a white nationalist) it is hard to argue with some of the content.
Duke takes a more racial angle but the bottom line is that Israel is really at the heart of many controversial world developments. Zionist control over US foreign policy has reached an astounding level. American news coverage is so one-sided!!
Check Ron Paul's google presidential candidate interview, in the last part Q&A. He says that USA is not a democracy and democracy is not a good thing. Because the property rights should be protected from the majority rule. This is actually what James Madison (main architect of the constitution of USA) said in the constitutional convention. He argued that USA has to have an elite class that respects the property rights of the land owners.
His 2008 interview, candidates on google (or something like that). In the end, in Q\A session Ron Paul explains why US is not a democracy and why US should never be a democracy. He is for the democracy of the market, meaning the more economic power you have, the more decision making power you will have.
I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact ron paul would ban abortion if he were in power and does not generrally believe in seperation of church and state.
So whilst Ron may say some reasonably intelligent stuff he is overall an intellectual lightweight and the comparison to Chomsky is very insulting to Chomsky.
Ron Paul is personally pro-life but he believes that it should be up to the states to decide. In a time where opinions are more sharply divided than ever over the various directions to go in, i don't understand why states's rights can be anything but a positive thing.
The US Constitution was purposely designed to prevent the Federal government (esp. the executive branch) from usurping too much power from the states. Why not let red states and blue states each decide for themselves??
Very few people agree completely with each other. Chomsky and Paul most certainly agree on how detrimental this neoconservative mentality that we need to maintain an empire throughout the world is. They are against the giant military-industrial complex that has bankrupt the US and gave our crooked government the chutzpah to get involved in every development around the world (for the interests of a few).
Paul is more a constitutionalists and Chomsky more a socialist.
@bobshenix Ron Pauls ideas are just not serious. Its more of what has been causing the problems, its just so radical that it seems to be anti-mainstream and anti-establishment. Although I believe we should create political coalitions based on common goals and common agreement. So that is why ron paul supports and hardcore leftest work together in politics. Like grayson and paul.
Our two-party system makes it difficult to identify with any "legitimate" candidate. Since politicians have to pander to their respective parties in order to be accepted as legit in the first place, they must be able and willing to compromise or twist their own views to fall in line with the principles (or lack thereof) held by the establishment parties.
Result-- only those who excel at lying, sucking up, and playing politics have any real chance of getting nominated. It's politics as usual.
...w/ that said I respect Ron Paul not so much because i agree with everything he says but because he is a genuinely honest man. I have never seen Paul even remotely contradict himself. His principled integrity stands out in a corrupt and self-serving Washington.
Agree or disagree, it is clear that RP's motivation is driven by what he truly believes is best for our freedom and the continued preservation of our liberties as intended by most liberty-minded, well written constitution in history!!
Dr. Chomsky recently told Iranian TV that when the US invaded Afghanistan they provided no evidence that al Qaeda had done 9/11--"because they didn't have any".
See my video "Chomsky on Faith-based Wars and 9/11"
@MarioBrosClassic "Down Below a bunch of raging paragraph faggots" Your channel name already told us that you're eight years old, reiteration was not necessary.
By "state" I mean a pyramidal power center. What do you mean by it? Communism is very much like anarchy. In fact, communism is more extreme in its statelessness than anarchy = the view that power should be challenged; it doesn't necessitate statelessness, but it drives toward it. The USSR was about as communist as my cat. Communism is basically just a curse word at this point. Everything that those in power don't like is called communism or socialism....pure propaganda dude.
ya'll suck at history, libertarianism has always except recently in the US only meant socialism, anarchism etc. anarcho capitalism has always been rejected as a form of anarchism by the original anarchists who are socialists. read the AFAQ if you have to. the name anarcho capitalism refers to a fad, more or less of an internet phenomenon perpetuated by college students who have no bearing on the real world by worshiping murry rothbard without ever reading him or mises. ANCAP is an oxymoron.
Supporting the troops - most of whom come from a poor socio-economic bacground - could mean something. For example, if we provided the poor, who form the backbone of the military, with an alternative in a more equitable economic system this would be supporting the troops. Chomsky is right here. Just how many nice middle class kids don a tin helmet and lay down their lives in a foreign wasteland?
The "Support our Troops" rhetoric has become no different than anyone who tries to disagree with Chomsky. He has become a walking fallacy of the argument from authority. His reputation for being a leftist precedes him in a way that drives the bandwagon that he is "the greatest thinker of our time". Say anything about his views that does not blow sunshine up his ass, and immediately people who have a problem with any political policy will run to his rescue with remarks of blind support.
@chaopantheist You are once again missing my entire point. I will try to explain it again.
Last year, Glenn Beck wrote a book called Common Sense, in which he compared his political ideas with those of Tom Paine. The two persons ideas, letter for letter, do sound very similar. But in the context of the 1700s, Paine was a revolutionary progressive; in the context our own time, Beck is a backwards reactionist proto-fascist.
Why is this so? Our society is more progressive than back then.
@chaopantheist All of that is precisely true. When you look at the material facts, the huge human potential and labour power and industrial capacity, etc, there is simply no legitimate reason why all humans on Earth cannot live in first world conditions. And that is why we must fight to achieve a world where that is so.
But I was asked over the progress the human society has had since the founding fathers, and I gave examples of progress.
@chaopantheist For example, the creation of the social security saftey net; thanks to it, the rate of poverty has fell incredibly.
For example, the civil rights movement, making it socially unacceptable to be openly racist.
For example, the womens rights movement, making it socially unacceptable to be openly sexist.
For example, the Wagner of 1930s, which gave workers fundamental rights, such as pay, breaks, bonuses, sick leave, the right to join a union, etc, etc.
Back in the days when America was founded, just before the Industrial Revolution, the founding fathers were the most progressive people in the world, fighting against reactionary religion, fuedalism, monarchy, etc, etc. They based themselves on the Enlightenment philosophers, who were revolutionary in their ideas.
But that was back then: if you took the same founding fathers, and put them in today, by our standards they would be very Rightwing. Our society has become more progressive over time.
I studied some of the stuff he invented in uni, but I never knew what an awesome man he is. Although of course, most of wha he says is standard knowledge to most europeans. Sad to see that americans suffer so much.
@chaopantheist In Sweden where i live, there are quite a few social issues that are handled in the same manner. The word "Democracy" is overtly used to conceal actual intentions, and protect the interest of the EU which is a sham and a failure but it's never mentioned or discussed, it's just there in the backdrop and nobody sees the connection to the black money hole and domestic problems. Multiculture and islam is handled the same way, it's taboo to discuss on pain of being called a racist.
@chaopantheist If you hear people reguritating the same arguments being used by their sources everywhere you go, and being unanimously for whatever it is *they* say is right, and no to what is being supposedly wrong. You can be sure someone is paying more attention to authority figures than to their own judgement and assertions of reality. And this is a phenomenon that is far from being confined to Americans alone, everyone suffers from it in every country in various degrees.
You can tell Chomsky was irritable that day. He's usually pretty calm and reserved. I think he missed a bowel movement, had too much caffeine, or was provoked by someone earlier that day.
Chomsky's critics have almost no facts to contradict Chomsky's almost universally verifiable facts. Just watch his debates with any of the conservative thinkers; Richard Perle, Alan Dershowitz, and William F. Bulckley.
Buckley at least tried to have a factual discussion, but was thoroughly trounced. The others just sat there wining that Chomsky does not live in the real world, but were unable to dispute him on any point of fact or reason.
@JohnNoZ35 The day Chomsky is laid to rest, all these intellectuals will emerge out of the woodwork to claim all sorts of things, and point out endless flaws and errors im sure.
Supporting the troops has nothing to do with supporting policy if you're not an idiot. Families with military ties don't approve the stupid things our government does with our troops who are working to live!
Chomsky=TOOL
Fall in line mentality? lol
Maoism, Stalinism, Leninism; these movements were forced and bloody, when Chomsky claims they were all harmonious XD
The United States is not the villain, but the deaf crooks who run all governments.
Chomsky never stated Mao, stalin etc were harmonious, he was viamently agains them. don't make shit up and try looking at issues in alyers instead of viewing it like a 2 year old.
Chomsky never stated Mao, stalin etc were harmonious, he was viamently agains them. Don't make shit up and try looking at issues in layers instead of viewing it like a 2 year old.
@NocheezRecords "Dissentent, Power, and Confrontation" McGraw-Hill in 1971 Chomsky wrote this on the rise of Communist society in China:
"There are many things to object to in any society. But take China; modern China; one also finds many things that are really quite admirable... [In China] a good deal of the collectivization and communization was really based on mass participation and took place after a level of understanding had been reached in the peasantry that led to this next step.
How does nuance escape a real thinker like you? You also have to undersand what they came out of which was more horrifying. He never states that the atrocities are good. You don't even understand this stuff, go away. I don't think China would fall under anarchosyndaclism, lol.
@NocheezRecords The Chinese government forced 550,000,000 peasants into government slave work. When famine happened next in China, they cut food rations and used widespread terror tactics like strangling, burning, burying people alive and mutilated men, women and children to stop peasants from eating their food THEY grew.
I can find you quotes where Chomsky supports Stalinism, Lenninism and more Maosim.
I quoted his book for you, GOOGLE IT YOU 2 YR OLD
He often uses phrases in a way to highlight a meaning, a point, in the above statement. Often these phrases will be read by others that he's for something when he isn't.
So are you saying this in regard to my understanding that he does in fact support Communism?
I could find more... Chomsky is only still relevant because he's still a tool to mislead those easily persuaded by a high vocabulary and flowery speech.
Try finding stuff in context. I know too much about Chomsky for you to pull up out of context nonsense. Ain't workin pal. You remind of that nut job lawyer Dershowitz.
Then I would not talk to you since you ain't in pursue of a discussion but a win in an discussion. Therefore you would not response to rational responses nor will you recognise one, furthermore an discussion with you is pointless in any situation except ones of most intellectual or conceptual grievances. Whilst you might claim of being in an honest intellectual pursue - I can't recognise any and thus can't intellectually honestly construct an honest argument to meet you in a middle ground.
@doctordroobee Thats funny, I've heard Chomsky state over and over how Stalin was a tyrant, he disagreed viamnetly where Lenin took the movement and never, ever has backed anything against human rights. Chomsky doesn't think there was ever a good government, in fact he hates states.
You're full of shit, read in context and stop with your one liner bologna. I'd like to see you e-mail Chomsky and ask him about it, he responds often, then post it here so yuo can look like a total buffoon...
Do you know how many people in China there are? Are you going to mention how half of their popualtion lost everything and are not in the economic markets?
Chomsky isn't a liar and people like you who only understand text "black and white" are stupid.
I love this fucking guy, he comes in hear telling someone who has hundreds and hundreds of hours of Chomsky talks and he's gonna tell me what he thinks, lol.
Again, ask Chomsky what he thinks, e-mail him coward.
@NocheezRecords You're a musician, go talk politics at the kiddie table and learn how to speel "lying".
Chomsky lies about every five minutes exactly like clockwork; the old faithful of fake intellectuals.
He's a Linguist, not a politician. Just like you're a musician, not a thinker. You're a victim of flowery speech on his part, and you don't even know what he supports.
If you'd like to tell me about other things he doesn't support I can quote his books for you some more :)
1. Playing the typo card is for people who have no ideas
2. Chomsky is an anrchosyndaclist which is against what those folks you mentioned are, I've heard him speak hundreds of times and collect academic talks.
3. Do you have a job or do you just sit around and think?
4. All you can do is pull sentences out of context to back your propaganda.
5. I spend thousands of hours watching academic talks, documentaries, current affairs books and news media - do you?
I agree with Chomsky's points in THIS video. Try staying on subject moron. If you disagree with the points from THIS video have a debate on THIS video.
I agree with the comments by Chomsky in THIS video. And since you're such a "thinker", decide what you think about the points in THIS video, and then debate on THIS video.
@doctordroobee Chomsky never said that Stalinism was harmonious, or anything like it. He has stated repeatedly that the Soviet power system acted as centralized power always does; it protected itself. The same holds true for the west.
You might try reading his work before you comment on his opinions.
@TranshumanCyborg Your analysis of Chomsky is incorrect. While I agree with the first half of what you say, and would go on to say that criticism is integral to American democracy Chomsky is Anti-American. I don't like using that term because it is thrown around so much by those on the right, but there is no other way of describing his obsessive hatred of America.
The evolution of recent human history has been dominated by minority control over the majority, the rulers have come up with nessesary illusion for compliance and servitude of the many, Science and technology has created a world of plenty, but the market mechanism is about artificial scarcity to perpetuate poverty and exploitation in a modality of war,enviornmental destructions,animal cruelty and so on . The new paradigm is sharing the Earth for our collective needs and wellbeing
the dismantling of the iron tourniquet that has such a stranglehold on truth and justice will happen firstly with awareness of the concentration of power and then with peaceful civil disobedience and then finally with ousting the incumbent tyrants and replacing them with systems that are conducive to positive co-dependent working relations between groups and nations. we the people should at all times be aware of and unite against divisive and totalitarian regimes.
I also find it funny that he speaks about us, the specialized class, being trained. We prove it in every forum on the internet. No politeness, total arrogance, close mindedness, etc. Exactly what we see all day long from O'reilly, Maddow, Olberman, Beck. If we cannot have civilized discourse we're fucked, and our "friends" up top know it.
This man speaks the truth with no fear...amazing. The problem with truth is that people have vastly different tolerances for it. Some people can take 10% of the truth that our small brains can comprehend, others 90%. The main thing that gets in the way is peoples strong desire to belong to the group. For the most part we are cowards that are deathly afraid of being outcast or left behind by "our group". What a shame...
“in comparison to the conditions imposed by US tyranny and violence, East Europe under Russian rule was practically a paradise.” -Chomsky, Communist Sympathizer
@SeeProfileForDetails Chomsky, throughout his career, has been opposed to the Soviet Union. In fact, Chomsky opposes all governments and centers of power.
@Weswaswrite You're a fucking retard for not doing actual critical research on Chomsky and what he truly believes - that communist russia was a paradise compared to USA.
@SeeProfileForDetails That quote does not imply that he sympathizes with Communist Russia. It shows that he is a critic of American policy, yes; he does not say that he condones what Russia was doing, only that the US was worse. He was comparing Eastern Europe's living conditions under Russian control to the third world countries under our boot. My Grandpa was in a Russian "work camp" (murder-torture camp) so I know the brutality of the Russians. However, we should still stop OUR atrocities.
@WorldPeace4All6 The left wing is 100 percent correct, the right wing is 100 percent bad ideas and bad people. Kind of like black vs white people. Sure sure.
@SeeProfileForDetails No one ever claimed this. However, you claimed he wasn't critical of soviet russia, and this is absolutely 100% false. You wouldn't have to search hard to find his criticism of Russia's invasion of afghanistan, for instance, which leads me to believe you're the one who has done no "critical research".
@Boomoutgothelights
There are many people a lot smarter than you in the military. Many people have served much smarter than you too.
numkie 3 weeks ago
Thank god for Noam Chomsky
greekpoliticalaction 2 months ago
@greekpoliticalaction No, thank Comksy for Chomsky
scienceisknolwedge 1 month ago 4
I am so grateful someone has the GUTS to think and to say it out loud to all. So true what he says about state-capitalism in the USA--do your own research. I have done mine and come to conclude that it's much worse than Chomsky actually describes!
Vitalclubsport 2 months ago
Actualy, anybody who pays taxes "support our troops."
milascave2 2 months ago
So true!
scout6686 2 months ago
This Iraq War veteran does _not_ "Support the Troops."
clfhcks 2 months ago
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! What the fuck is this old loser talking about? Empty slogans like HOPE AND CHANGE!
Tsugua21 3 months ago
@Tsugua21 He's not a Democrat, so he think Obama message is just as empty. (As do I) I suggest a second listen. Chomsky a huge critic of Obama as well as Bush. Lot's of vids on that if you float round the tube awhile.
MrCopperhead1861 2 months ago
@Tsugua21 I think you have him confused with another fellow named Barach Obama.
milascave2 2 months ago
@Tsugua21 Yo, what up fool?!
Lukege15 2 weeks ago
Man, this video was terrible edited. Try again, pal... Less echo after the cuts, ok?
TurpentineRec 3 months ago
This shrivelled old windbag could put his ass up to the mic and queef and leftists the world over would rejoice at the magnificence.
oldstock1607 3 months ago
@oldstock1607 You're an example of what makes the left respectable. You're criticism is childish and ironic.
IshakElias 3 months ago
@IshakElias Read my other criticisms of Chomsky. They are incisive and thought-provoking. I have abandoned all attemtpts of legitimate criticism of the man, because leftists refuse to countenance even the mildest criticism of their ivory-tower messiah.
oldstock1607 3 months ago
I love Chomsky's work and his ideas. But he's very weak in the most important area: what is to be done? Okay, we get it. We know things are fucked up. What do we do about it? We need fewer books telling us things are fucked up and more books on what we do about it. Philosophers and linguists have only interpreted the world; the point is to change it.
thenewmiLONNIEum 4 months ago 3
@thenewmiLONNIEum for now the best thing is to inform yourself, and inform others. When the word gets out, change will happen naturally.
kmardes 4 months ago in playlist kmardes's favorites
@thenewmiLONNIEum It shouldn't be beyond anyone to know what to do after identifying a problem. Obviously you act against it through the means that are disposible to people. As in most things it is done through politics, that's the arena where the troubles are formed and virtually unopposed.
Tyrfingr 3 months ago
@thenewmiLONNIEum Noam Chomsky isn't concerned about fixing any problems, Noam Chomsky is concerned about speaking fees.
Tsugua21 3 months ago
@thenewmiLONNIEum Education is among the "things that must be done for change" not to mention the sickest part... We know what needs to be done. It's simple. We just lack the organization and/or courage to do it. It's like Chomsky says. And like Chomsky says it's only privileged people that stop to ask "what do we do?" When things are actually bad, and you can do something about it, People do it. So what to do? Form Groups, Educate, Use the power you have. Not blame others.
Seregnaug 3 months ago
A typical well thought out and informative view. I wish there were more out there like Mr. Chomsky!
Magenta408 5 months ago 17
@Magenta408 The irony is there are, it's just Noam is one of a few that have been able to pierce the media black-out. However, Chomsky is famous but the media still are slow to recognise him.
EllyMcCormack 1 month ago
@Magenta408 The sad thing is that there are many out there like him, but, as he said, they all are sitting by themselves in front of the TV not realizing that they aren't alone in realizing something is horribly wrong.
MechanizedCaffeine 3 weeks ago
He is absolutley right I think. It's like those slogans saying "they are fighting for our freedom". Nobody is against OUR freedom, nor are the troops anywhere fighting for our freedom. First you have to define "freedom", next you have to point out who is threatening it. The only people hindering our actions are the ones running our own society, and there is no external force threatening our will to act. This is nothing but propaganda.
mattymraz 6 months ago 3
@mattymraz Exactly. "The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over." --Joseph Goebbels
73849309378 4 months ago
Oh and Chomsky I know people who "support our troops" but did not support Bush's or the US policy. So for me this fails because I do not think he gives the average person enough credit. I think he is right that some people in the public relations industry do try and sell their politics (democrat and republican) (conservative and liberal) Some of what he says is right but again he does not give regular people any credit and it is not the way I think.
MrBlackhaw 7 months ago
@MrBlackhaw You miss the point. "Die for your country" is really "die for your government". That's basically what Chomsky is saying. Yes, maybe you support the poor idiots who've decided to join the military, but at the end of the day they're just a bunch of poor disillusioned chumps.
Boomoutgothelights 7 months ago 6
@Boomoutgothelights "poor disillusioned chumps". Look, I hate that flag-waving, ribbon-wearing, nationalistic crap just as much as you do; really I do. But to lump them all as 'chumps' or suckers is quite a generalization. Many who join do so because they might not have other options or might use their years in the military to further their career opportunities and betterment when they re-join the private sector. And some feel they need the discipline. I do feel ya, but be a bit reasonable.
MyceliaProductions42 5 months ago
@MyceliaProductions42 your comment exemplifies the way of thinking that is both needed and finally gaining real momentum- in large part with the recent 'occupy' movement. when i heard they had a print newspaper coming out of the occupied wall street, i was ecstatic. when i heard just a few days later that there were other occupy sectors, each cooperating to tackle the issues most important to their areas, i felt, well, 'proud to be an american' if you will, hahaha.
intrepgun 4 months ago
@MrBlackhaw
Of course the marketing worked, how did GW get re-elected? There are many people capable of critical thinking, but maybe that has not reached 'critical mass'? Or it's reflective of the apathy of those who do know the government are puppets of corporate lobbyists, and no difference dems or reps. Still have to try to vote for the 'lesser evil' and at least be able to hold others words to account. . .
anikanikakha 6 months ago
@MrBlackhaw Exactly. Mr. Chomsky would have been more correct to say "saying I support the troops means nothing to ME, personally, because military service or pride in one's nation are two concepts that are completely foreign to, and divorced from, my priveliged, elite, academic ivory-tower reality."
oldstock1607 3 months ago
Yes the US was involved in WWII after being bombed by Japan. I guess it was a bad thing to be against hitler. Maybe putting words in your mouth but I find it hard to argue against US involvement in WWII. I never said the US is perfect. The US has done some negative things. But to say all the world is vying for peace except the US is ignorant. the US gets blamed for some things because it actually tried to do something. Often Europe and other countries don't care enough to be involved.
MrBlackhaw 7 months ago
I think the best thing that Chomsky does is to encourage us to think for ourselves. As children we ask questions and think for ourselves, but this value is stolen from us as we grow older. My impression of Chomsky is that he has been thinking for himslef for a long time.
dontchastop 7 months ago 7
U.S. Democracy is just an act
0nn3 7 months ago 5
What is wrong with supporting the troops? They do not make the laws. Sure it is politics but one can easily think beyond just that and support the troops. Chomsky acts like everyoen is an idiot or can't see past slogans.
MrBlackhaw 7 months ago
@MrBlackhaw No there is nothing wrong with supporting your troops, there is however something terribly wrong with your constant warmaking. The rest of the world (with few exceptions) are trrying to obtain world peace whereas every American president after WWI has been in somekind of war or created a military conflict.
Ganbertuli 7 months ago
@Ganbertuli give me a break. All the world is vying for peace except for the US. Probably Israel is not either. Give me a break. I would never say that the US is perfect but this is just a load of crap. The middle east would be in war with or without US intervention. And the US did not create WWII. Europe did. I think someone has some blinders on.
MrBlackhaw 7 months ago
@MrBlackhaw Noone said the US created WWII but as I said they were involved in it. It is a known fact that the United States has overthrown democratic governments, and replaced them with totalitarian leaders as they did for instance in Chile. Are you denying this or didnt you know?
Ganbertuli 7 months ago
"This is the only society that doesn't have national healthcare"... and yet we have been a superpower for the last 100 years. In fact, America has been the richest, freest, best nation for a long time, compared to the rest of the world. We use slogans because they're easy to remember and say and put on stuff.
Support our Troops: means that even if you don't agree with the war policy, honor the men and women fighting and dying in your name. Saying it means nothing is kind of ungrateful...
DRsideburns 7 months ago
@DRsideburns lol you're so blinded, yes maybe the US is richest and strongest nation in the world, but then why don't they have the best overall happiness? US citizens look at their nation and see a beast which they cant deny greatness, but they look past the fact it's still a beast.
0nn3 7 months ago
@DRsideburns You've only been a 'super power' for the past 50 years, freest? you have the largest prison population in the world. Money means absolutely nothing when the only people that have it are the top braket, you have 30 million people that can't afford to access healthcare. Some of the worst worker rights in the west and a corrupt government hardly the 'best nation'.
crosbyj25 7 months ago
@DRsideburns your not right. USA is not the most free country in the world and it's far from the best nation (Norway is according to the UN). You may like USA but that doesnt change the facts that your country is an imperialistic country run not by the good american people but by large corporations. That is why you will find that outside of your country nobody likes your foreignpolitics. Besides lets remember that AMERICA is a continent not a nation.
Ganbertuli 7 months ago
10 fascists and counting
fatmaggi 7 months ago
Holy god
CytotoxicTrev 8 months ago
I wish I could find a bumper sticker that says, "No---YOU support our troops."
37Dionysos 8 months ago 5
@37Dionysos I wish I knew what you are trying to say.
buttercow12 7 months ago
chomsky is not a genius... chomsky is THE genius.
djalternegro 8 months ago 38
fargonbastedge - Perhaps you should put down the donuts, get out of the recliner and do some real research before opening your pie hole. Mr. Chomsky has dedicated a great deal of his life researching issues related to the United States' foreign policy. Furthermore, he's actually traveled to many of the places to see for himself what is/was going on. He backs up his statements with facts that anyone can research and confirm for themselves. Silly monkey - still don't get it do you?
UdderPunch6 9 months ago
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His whole speech here is based on the notion that jihad plays no role in the world today.
I suggest Chomsky reads the Koran. It will then become more clear as to why whats going on in the world today.
Mumbai attacks in India? Moscow suicide bombing in Russia? Still going to blame American foreign policy? lol silly liberals, no matter how hard they try they just dont get it.
fargonbastedge 9 months ago
Perhaps you should put down the donuts, get out of the recliner and do some real research before opening your pie hole. Mr. Chomsky has dedicated a great deal of his life researching issues related to the United States' foreign policy. Furthermore, he's actually traveled to many of the places to see for himself what is/was going on. He backs up his statements with facts that anyone can research and confirm for themselves. Silly monkey - still don't get it do you?
UdderPunch6 9 months ago
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Big thumbs up for this video.
VVillowz 10 months ago
I often thought that, who the hell doesn't support the troops, what a meaningless term. Now I know its just propaganda.
RPShredow 10 months ago
I'm sorry but I absolutely love the uploader's username
zzzzJAGJEETzzzz 10 months ago 3
I would give this video so many thumbs up that I would, I mean... THEY DON'T MAKE ENOUGH HANDS.
beta447 11 months ago
noam chomsky fore world leader
ronaldvonbijleveld 11 months ago
noam chomsky the new mesiha
ronaldvonbijleveld 11 months ago
Small wonder how many of us would have known about Chomsky and others if we didn't have Internet access.
Arkinight 1 year ago 2
Excellent points. No social contract here.
Also, the point about Unions last victory in 1935 also is also good.
This is a productive time for the right.
The Republicans are taking advanatage of the still weakened national economy and poor state economies across the nation to attack unions and destroy as many programs as possible.
Wisconsin is a clear example recently where the unions are digging in their heels and fighting the Governor there.
New Jersey is another. Massive cuts there.
MultiSmartass1 1 year ago
@MultiSmartass1 UR RIGHT and Wisconsin was almost a failure for the people..but i havent been cought up to what happened recently
tanvo93 10 months ago
@tanvo93 Haven't followed recently but last I heard they passed the bill stripping collecting bargaining rights to state workers and a Judge had ruled against it.
Beyond that I dont know what was happened.
MultiSmartass1 10 months ago
@MultiSmartass1 i also saw that scott walker (koch sucker) and his "adminstration" was enforcing the bill even though the judge ruled against it..calling the way the bill (how it was passed) basically wrong..since he really didnt vote on it and jsut ramed it through..a really desperate attempt..and u can see he's corralating with these big corporations to the point where hes just ramming shit through
tanvo93 10 months ago
I cannot give this segment enough thumbs up. I wish there were a much, much larger thumbs up button I could click.
truthslap 1 year ago 105
@truthslap Its always interesting to listen to Noam.
Xenthoid 10 months ago
@Xenthoid I agree, Chomsky is the great philosopher of our age. I apologize if I misunderstood the intention of your comment in the other video, my English is still not perfect and I sometimes miss the nuances.
truthslap 10 months ago
@truthslap That's fine..however, I didn't even realize that i was talking to the same person on both vids. Yeah, he is definitely one of great intellectuals of our time..
Xenthoid 10 months ago
@Xenthoid I didn't assume you did, I just recognized your name and addressed my previous misunderstanding. I agree Chomsky is one of the most noteworthy intellectuals of our time.
truthslap 10 months ago
@truthslap There ought to be the thumbs up button, thumbs down button, and then the Chomsky button.
RSFO 4 months ago
Chomsky's thinking is not so common which is why he has such a tremendous following and of course his thinking is clear, which I think is stating the obivious.
tcbuzz 1 year ago
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bobshenix 1 year ago 38
@bobshenix well, first of all, Chomsky was raised Jewish, he's now an atheist. He believes that gods are the most authoritarian power structure there is, or at least towards the top of the list. as for the connection to ron paul,that's just factually incorrect. Paul believes in libertarianism, so no gov't intervention in corporate affairs, which Chomsky is vehemently against.
benizbitchin 1 year ago
@benizbitchin has Chomsky ever specifically wrote that he was an atheist? I've not come across it in any of his books, and I recall in an interview he said he wasn't aware of quite what it was he was suppose to be "believing in" or not believing in, the whole issue being so unclear and universally different. there are many traditional anarchists and Marxists who are ardently atheist, but Chomsky is not a hard-line anything, he's rational and only presumes what he reasonably can.
truthslap 1 year ago 4
@truthslap I think you are referring to the "Science in the Dock" interview. From what I can tell, Chomsky is loathe to subscribe to any "ism" at all. But to put it simply, yes. There are other interviews on religion in which he says his view is that one shouldn't hold irrational beliefs, including those regarding the existence supernatural deities like the god of Abraham. He is not agnostic either, so there you have it.
Diderooot 1 year ago
@Diderooot I don't think I quite "have it" there. you'd have to direct me to an interview, not where he says one shouldn't hold irrational beliefs, but specifically that he believes those views regarding "the god of Abraham" to be such. I do assume that as a rational person he is indeed agnostic, I cannot believe that Chomsky would profess knowledge of anything that he doesn't know.
truthslap 1 year ago
@truthslap In the "sci in the dock" interview (and elsewhere), he pokes fun at agnosticism. I couldn't remember where he replied directly to a question about the "God of Abraham" (might've been in one of david barsamian's books), but he does as much in the "Tablet Q&A" interview. There's an obscure ZNet forum post by chomsky where he says his preferred anarchist society would subscribe to "no gods, no masters" - can't put links in comments, unfortunately. Message me for a link, if you'd like.
Diderooot 1 year ago
@Diderooot I'll check out the Tablet Q&A interview, but as for his post on "no gods, no masters" that is a traditional anarchist slogan, which surely we can all agree with as rational, secular people. I will not serve anybody's gods or masters, that is the point of anarchist society, but that's not an argument against personal faith. also there is a reasonable difference, at least in my mind, between knowing that something cannot be proven and knowing that something is false.
truthslap 1 year ago
@truthslap Also, atheism doesn't "profess knowledge" about things that aren't known. What it is, instead, is a worldview in which claims about the existence of deities must meet the standard burden of justification that any other claim about the world must meet. If the existence of god can't meet the burden (aka, there is no evidence), then there is no god. Ditto for unicorns, lamarckian inheritance, etc. Of course, that conclusion is provisional, just like every other conclusion one holds
Diderooot 1 year ago
@Diderooot I recall reading Chomsky's commentaries on "Priest and Prophet" in his Language and Politics book, where he maintains the difference between genuinely inspired, faithful people who eschew money and state (prophets), and those who maintain the status quo and indoctrinate people with state religion (priests). Everybody has faith in something, everybody would say their faith is real to them. Please send me the links.
truthslap 1 year ago
@truthslap He's repeatedly, though I admit not as frequently as most other statements, that he (this is probably not exact) believes that people should believe in things as rationally as possible, see: Chomsky on Religion (Interview), another video on Youtube.
I pretty much agree with your comment, my older comment was a little silly.
benizbitchin 11 months ago
@bobshenix It's funny how many people will give you hell for putting those two in the same sentence. Kinda sad really.
Madfoot713 11 months ago
@bobshenix in regards to israel and Zionism you can add Norman Finkelestein and David Duke (he's racist but his videos about zionism are very informative and truthful)
BornToDie90 11 months ago
@BornToDie90
It's interesting you mention David Duke because just a couple days ago i saw his video "How Zionists Divide And Conquer" on YT and although there is an obvious bias (he is a white nationalist) it is hard to argue with some of the content.
Duke takes a more racial angle but the bottom line is that Israel is really at the heart of many controversial world developments. Zionist control over US foreign policy has reached an astounding level. American news coverage is so one-sided!!
bobshenix 11 months ago
@BornToDie90
Finkelstein is by no means a racist, I can't speak for David Duke though.
swood289 10 months ago
@bobshenix I don't think you should forget Mike Gravel.
olepunh 11 months ago
@bobshenix
They aren't the only ones. Read and listen to Howard Zinn and Norman Finkelstein.
swood289 10 months ago
@bobshenix
Ron Paul is an elite! just FYI, he does NOT believe that democracy is a good thing. I can give you sources if you dont believe me.
astronomypouya 10 months ago
@astronomypouya The source would interesting.
Xenthoid 10 months ago
@Xenthoid
Check Ron Paul's google presidential candidate interview, in the last part Q&A. He says that USA is not a democracy and democracy is not a good thing. Because the property rights should be protected from the majority rule. This is actually what James Madison (main architect of the constitution of USA) said in the constitutional convention. He argued that USA has to have an elite class that respects the property rights of the land owners.
astronomypouya 9 months ago
@Xenthoid
His 2008 interview, candidates on google (or something like that). In the end, in Q\A session Ron Paul explains why US is not a democracy and why US should never be a democracy. He is for the democracy of the market, meaning the more economic power you have, the more decision making power you will have.
astronomypouya 5 months ago
@bobshenix
Ron Paul, don't make me vomit.
LethalResistanz 10 months ago
@bobshenix
not the only guys, but two very prominent ones. don't forget about the intellectual proles.
John5000873 10 months ago
@bobshenix nader
tanvo93 10 months ago
@bobshenix
I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact ron paul would ban abortion if he were in power and does not generrally believe in seperation of church and state.
So whilst Ron may say some reasonably intelligent stuff he is overall an intellectual lightweight and the comparison to Chomsky is very insulting to Chomsky.
srspower 9 months ago 3
@srspower
Ron Paul is personally pro-life but he believes that it should be up to the states to decide. In a time where opinions are more sharply divided than ever over the various directions to go in, i don't understand why states's rights can be anything but a positive thing.
The US Constitution was purposely designed to prevent the Federal government (esp. the executive branch) from usurping too much power from the states. Why not let red states and blue states each decide for themselves??
bobshenix 9 months ago
@bobshenix
Ron Paul supports private tyranny.
He is no different to the other teabaggers who blame the poor or government workers for America's ills.
People like him need to step down and retire.
kingmafi6699 9 months ago 4
@bobshenix UMM thats a little strange, they totally disagree with each other.
thesparitan 8 months ago
@thesparitan
Very few people agree completely with each other. Chomsky and Paul most certainly agree on how detrimental this neoconservative mentality that we need to maintain an empire throughout the world is. They are against the giant military-industrial complex that has bankrupt the US and gave our crooked government the chutzpah to get involved in every development around the world (for the interests of a few).
Paul is more a constitutionalists and Chomsky more a socialist.
bobshenix 8 months ago
@bobshenix Ron Pauls ideas are just not serious. Its more of what has been causing the problems, its just so radical that it seems to be anti-mainstream and anti-establishment. Although I believe we should create political coalitions based on common goals and common agreement. So that is why ron paul supports and hardcore leftest work together in politics. Like grayson and paul.
thesparitan 8 months ago
Our two-party system makes it difficult to identify with any "legitimate" candidate. Since politicians have to pander to their respective parties in order to be accepted as legit in the first place, they must be able and willing to compromise or twist their own views to fall in line with the principles (or lack thereof) held by the establishment parties.
Result-- only those who excel at lying, sucking up, and playing politics have any real chance of getting nominated. It's politics as usual.
bobshenix 8 months ago
...w/ that said I respect Ron Paul not so much because i agree with everything he says but because he is a genuinely honest man. I have never seen Paul even remotely contradict himself. His principled integrity stands out in a corrupt and self-serving Washington.
Agree or disagree, it is clear that RP's motivation is driven by what he truly believes is best for our freedom and the continued preservation of our liberties as intended by most liberty-minded, well written constitution in history!!
bobshenix 8 months ago
@bobshenix howard zinn did when he was alive. and there's a few more that do to. just cant think of their names off hand.
nikechiapas 8 months ago
@bobshenix Even though Ron Paul is still a crazy asshole.
tazer95 7 months ago
@bobshenix AND MIKE GRAVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boomoutgothelights 7 months ago
@bobshenix
Don't forget about Jesse Ventura.
Gurra88 7 months ago
@bobshenix
Why Ron Paul? What about Ralph Nader? :P
dihydrohydroxycodein 7 months ago 2
@dihydrohydroxycodein What about Dennis Kucinich?
WildWe5 6 months ago 2
@bobshenix ron paul and chomsky are completely opposed in ideology.
thesparitan 6 months ago 4
Genius
tcbuzz 1 year ago
@tcbuzz Not genius. Common sense and clear thinking. That shouldn't be considered genius.
1844Freddy 1 year ago
Dr. Chomsky recently told Iranian TV that when the US invaded Afghanistan they provided no evidence that al Qaeda had done 9/11--"because they didn't have any".
See my video "Chomsky on Faith-based Wars and 9/11"
punxsutawneybarney 1 year ago
Down Below a bunch of raging paragraph faggots
MarioBrosClassic 1 year ago
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@MarioBrosClassic "Down Below a bunch of raging paragraph faggots" Your channel name already told us that you're eight years old, reiteration was not necessary.
tstruss912 1 year ago 2
By "state" I mean a pyramidal power center. What do you mean by it? Communism is very much like anarchy. In fact, communism is more extreme in its statelessness than anarchy = the view that power should be challenged; it doesn't necessitate statelessness, but it drives toward it. The USSR was about as communist as my cat. Communism is basically just a curse word at this point. Everything that those in power don't like is called communism or socialism....pure propaganda dude.
tstruss912 1 year ago
ya'll suck at history, libertarianism has always except recently in the US only meant socialism, anarchism etc. anarcho capitalism has always been rejected as a form of anarchism by the original anarchists who are socialists. read the AFAQ if you have to. the name anarcho capitalism refers to a fad, more or less of an internet phenomenon perpetuated by college students who have no bearing on the real world by worshiping murry rothbard without ever reading him or mises. ANCAP is an oxymoron.
BloodTypeRagu 1 year ago
Supporting the troops - most of whom come from a poor socio-economic bacground - could mean something. For example, if we provided the poor, who form the backbone of the military, with an alternative in a more equitable economic system this would be supporting the troops. Chomsky is right here. Just how many nice middle class kids don a tin helmet and lay down their lives in a foreign wasteland?
gwangjuboy1 1 year ago
I support our troops....the ones that kill their commanding officers!
NOmeansnoFAN 1 year ago
The "Support our Troops" rhetoric has become no different than anyone who tries to disagree with Chomsky. He has become a walking fallacy of the argument from authority. His reputation for being a leftist precedes him in a way that drives the bandwagon that he is "the greatest thinker of our time". Say anything about his views that does not blow sunshine up his ass, and immediately people who have a problem with any political policy will run to his rescue with remarks of blind support.
123backinyerface 1 year ago
2:03 I thought Noam was about to say fuck I was so excited hahaha
vigilverse2 1 year ago
@chaopantheist You are once again missing my entire point. I will try to explain it again.
Last year, Glenn Beck wrote a book called Common Sense, in which he compared his political ideas with those of Tom Paine. The two persons ideas, letter for letter, do sound very similar. But in the context of the 1700s, Paine was a revolutionary progressive; in the context our own time, Beck is a backwards reactionist proto-fascist.
Why is this so? Our society is more progressive than back then.
MikhailSilverwood 1 year ago
@chaopantheist All of that is precisely true. When you look at the material facts, the huge human potential and labour power and industrial capacity, etc, there is simply no legitimate reason why all humans on Earth cannot live in first world conditions. And that is why we must fight to achieve a world where that is so.
But I was asked over the progress the human society has had since the founding fathers, and I gave examples of progress.
MikhailSilverwood 1 year ago
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Shut your communist pie hole Chomsky! Your not fooling anyone you bastard.
44warjunkie 1 year ago
@44warjunkie
You haven't really explained yourself.
DrDDDuke 1 year ago 2
@chaopantheist For example, the creation of the social security saftey net; thanks to it, the rate of poverty has fell incredibly.
For example, the civil rights movement, making it socially unacceptable to be openly racist.
For example, the womens rights movement, making it socially unacceptable to be openly sexist.
For example, the Wagner of 1930s, which gave workers fundamental rights, such as pay, breaks, bonuses, sick leave, the right to join a union, etc, etc.
MikhailSilverwood 1 year ago
Back in the days when America was founded, just before the Industrial Revolution, the founding fathers were the most progressive people in the world, fighting against reactionary religion, fuedalism, monarchy, etc, etc. They based themselves on the Enlightenment philosophers, who were revolutionary in their ideas.
But that was back then: if you took the same founding fathers, and put them in today, by our standards they would be very Rightwing. Our society has become more progressive over time.
MikhailSilverwood 1 year ago
I studied some of the stuff he invented in uni, but I never knew what an awesome man he is. Although of course, most of wha he says is standard knowledge to most europeans. Sad to see that americans suffer so much.
TheSleepaholic 1 year ago
@chaopantheist In Sweden where i live, there are quite a few social issues that are handled in the same manner. The word "Democracy" is overtly used to conceal actual intentions, and protect the interest of the EU which is a sham and a failure but it's never mentioned or discussed, it's just there in the backdrop and nobody sees the connection to the black money hole and domestic problems. Multiculture and islam is handled the same way, it's taboo to discuss on pain of being called a racist.
Tyrfingr 1 year ago
@chaopantheist If you hear people reguritating the same arguments being used by their sources everywhere you go, and being unanimously for whatever it is *they* say is right, and no to what is being supposedly wrong. You can be sure someone is paying more attention to authority figures than to their own judgement and assertions of reality. And this is a phenomenon that is far from being confined to Americans alone, everyone suffers from it in every country in various degrees.
Tyrfingr 1 year ago
@chaopantheist Relinquishment of perception to proclaimed authority as i usually call it
Tyrfingr 1 year ago
You can tell Chomsky was irritable that day. He's usually pretty calm and reserved. I think he missed a bowel movement, had too much caffeine, or was provoked by someone earlier that day.
brokencountry123 1 year ago
Chomsky's critics have almost no facts to contradict Chomsky's almost universally verifiable facts. Just watch his debates with any of the conservative thinkers; Richard Perle, Alan Dershowitz, and William F. Bulckley.
Buckley at least tried to have a factual discussion, but was thoroughly trounced. The others just sat there wining that Chomsky does not live in the real world, but were unable to dispute him on any point of fact or reason.
JohnNoZ35 1 year ago
@JohnNoZ35 The day Chomsky is laid to rest, all these intellectuals will emerge out of the woodwork to claim all sorts of things, and point out endless flaws and errors im sure.
Tyrfingr 1 year ago
You're can say anything you want!
Supporting the troops has nothing to do with supporting policy if you're not an idiot. Families with military ties don't approve the stupid things our government does with our troops who are working to live!
Chomsky=TOOL
Fall in line mentality? lol
Maoism, Stalinism, Leninism; these movements were forced and bloody, when Chomsky claims they were all harmonious XD
The United States is not the villain, but the deaf crooks who run all governments.
Chomsky lies
doctordroobee 1 year ago
@doctordroobee
Chomsky never stated Mao, stalin etc were harmonious, he was viamently agains them. don't make shit up and try looking at issues in alyers instead of viewing it like a 2 year old.
what's he lieing about, lol?
NocheezRecords 1 year ago
@doctordroobee
Chomsky never stated Mao, stalin etc were harmonious, he was viamently agains them. Don't make shit up and try looking at issues in layers instead of viewing it like a 2 year old.
what's he lieing about, lol?
NocheezRecords 1 year ago
@NocheezRecords "Dissentent, Power, and Confrontation" McGraw-Hill in 1971 Chomsky wrote this on the rise of Communist society in China:
"There are many things to object to in any society. But take China; modern China; one also finds many things that are really quite admirable... [In China] a good deal of the collectivization and communization was really based on mass participation and took place after a level of understanding had been reached in the peasantry that led to this next step.
doctordroobee 1 year ago
@doctordroobee
How does nuance escape a real thinker like you? You also have to undersand what they came out of which was more horrifying. He never states that the atrocities are good. You don't even understand this stuff, go away. I don't think China would fall under anarchosyndaclism, lol.
NocheezRecords 1 year ago
@NocheezRecords The Chinese government forced 550,000,000 peasants into government slave work. When famine happened next in China, they cut food rations and used widespread terror tactics like strangling, burning, burying people alive and mutilated men, women and children to stop peasants from eating their food THEY grew.
I can find you quotes where Chomsky supports Stalinism, Lenninism and more Maosim.
I quoted his book for you, GOOGLE IT YOU 2 YR OLD
He said this, Noam Chomsky is a liar.
doctordroobee 1 year ago
He often uses phrases in a way to highlight a meaning, a point, in the above statement. Often these phrases will be read by others that he's for something when he isn't.
Teadon86 1 year ago
@Teadon86 No, Chomsky lives in Chomskyland.
So are you saying this in regard to my understanding that he does in fact support Communism?
I could find more... Chomsky is only still relevant because he's still a tool to mislead those easily persuaded by a high vocabulary and flowery speech.
doctordroobee 1 year ago
@doctordroobee
I'd like this one answered:
3. Do you have a job or do you just sit around and think?
NocheezRecords 1 year ago
@doctordroobee you stated, "I could find more".
Try finding stuff in context. I know too much about Chomsky for you to pull up out of context nonsense. Ain't workin pal. You remind of that nut job lawyer Dershowitz.
NocheezRecords 1 year ago
Then I would not talk to you since you ain't in pursue of a discussion but a win in an discussion. Therefore you would not response to rational responses nor will you recognise one, furthermore an discussion with you is pointless in any situation except ones of most intellectual or conceptual grievances. Whilst you might claim of being in an honest intellectual pursue - I can't recognise any and thus can't intellectually honestly construct an honest argument to meet you in a middle ground.
Teadon86 1 year ago
@doctordroobee
He supports anarchosyndicalism and possibly other forms of anarchism, not dictatorial systems of Marxism. There is a huge difference.
Even if you hold those systems as unrealistic (which I generally do), his criticisms of the existing systems are completely valid.
JohnNoZ35 1 year ago
@doctordroobee Thats funny, I've heard Chomsky state over and over how Stalin was a tyrant, he disagreed viamnetly where Lenin took the movement and never, ever has backed anything against human rights. Chomsky doesn't think there was ever a good government, in fact he hates states.
You're full of shit, read in context and stop with your one liner bologna. I'd like to see you e-mail Chomsky and ask him about it, he responds often, then post it here so yuo can look like a total buffoon...
NocheezRecords 1 year ago
@doctordroobee
Do you know how many people in China there are? Are you going to mention how half of their popualtion lost everything and are not in the economic markets?
Chomsky isn't a liar and people like you who only understand text "black and white" are stupid.
I love this fucking guy, he comes in hear telling someone who has hundreds and hundreds of hours of Chomsky talks and he's gonna tell me what he thinks, lol.
Again, ask Chomsky what he thinks, e-mail him coward.
NocheezRecords 1 year ago
@NocheezRecords You're a musician, go talk politics at the kiddie table and learn how to speel "lying".
Chomsky lies about every five minutes exactly like clockwork; the old faithful of fake intellectuals.
He's a Linguist, not a politician. Just like you're a musician, not a thinker. You're a victim of flowery speech on his part, and you don't even know what he supports.
If you'd like to tell me about other things he doesn't support I can quote his books for you some more :)
doctordroobee 1 year ago
@doctordroobee
1. Playing the typo card is for people who have no ideas
2. Chomsky is an anrchosyndaclist which is against what those folks you mentioned are, I've heard him speak hundreds of times and collect academic talks.
3. Do you have a job or do you just sit around and think?
4. All you can do is pull sentences out of context to back your propaganda.
5. I spend thousands of hours watching academic talks, documentaries, current affairs books and news media - do you?
NocheezRecords 1 year ago
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NocheezRecords 1 year ago
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@doctordroobee AND FINALLY NITWIT:
I agree with Chomsky's points in THIS video. Try staying on subject moron. If you disagree with the points from THIS video have a debate on THIS video.
Yes, you're a real thinker, lol. Laugh riot...
NocheezRecords 1 year ago
@doctordroobee AND FINALLY
I agree with the comments by Chomsky in THIS video. And since you're such a "thinker", decide what you think about the points in THIS video, and then debate on THIS video.
Funny stuff...
NocheezRecords 1 year ago
@doctordroobee Chomsky never said that Stalinism was harmonious, or anything like it. He has stated repeatedly that the Soviet power system acted as centralized power always does; it protected itself. The same holds true for the west.
You might try reading his work before you comment on his opinions.
JohnNoZ35 1 year ago
@TranshumanCyborg Your analysis of Chomsky is incorrect. While I agree with the first half of what you say, and would go on to say that criticism is integral to American democracy Chomsky is Anti-American. I don't like using that term because it is thrown around so much by those on the right, but there is no other way of describing his obsessive hatred of America.
UserUK201 1 year ago
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The evolution of recent human history has been dominated by minority control over the majority, the rulers have come up with nessesary illusion for compliance and servitude of the many, Science and technology has created a world of plenty, but the market mechanism is about artificial scarcity to perpetuate poverty and exploitation in a modality of war,enviornmental destructions,animal cruelty and so on . The new paradigm is sharing the Earth for our collective needs and wellbeing
arzoyan 1 year ago
the dismantling of the iron tourniquet that has such a stranglehold on truth and justice will happen firstly with awareness of the concentration of power and then with peaceful civil disobedience and then finally with ousting the incumbent tyrants and replacing them with systems that are conducive to positive co-dependent working relations between groups and nations. we the people should at all times be aware of and unite against divisive and totalitarian regimes.
naughtyboymessiah 1 year ago
-thank you! -beautifully stated!
charrobSix 1 year ago
I also find it funny that he speaks about us, the specialized class, being trained. We prove it in every forum on the internet. No politeness, total arrogance, close mindedness, etc. Exactly what we see all day long from O'reilly, Maddow, Olberman, Beck. If we cannot have civilized discourse we're fucked, and our "friends" up top know it.
tstruss912 1 year ago
This man speaks the truth with no fear...amazing. The problem with truth is that people have vastly different tolerances for it. Some people can take 10% of the truth that our small brains can comprehend, others 90%. The main thing that gets in the way is peoples strong desire to belong to the group. For the most part we are cowards that are deathly afraid of being outcast or left behind by "our group". What a shame...
tstruss912 1 year ago 20
“in comparison to the conditions imposed by US tyranny and violence, East Europe under Russian rule was practically a paradise.” -Chomsky, Communist Sympathizer
SeeProfileForDetails 1 year ago
@SeeProfileForDetails Chomsky, throughout his career, has been opposed to the Soviet Union. In fact, Chomsky opposes all governments and centers of power.
You're a fucking retard for thinking otherwise.
Weswaswrite 1 year ago
@Weswaswrite You're a fucking retard for not doing actual critical research on Chomsky and what he truly believes - that communist russia was a paradise compared to USA.
SeeProfileForDetails 1 year ago
@SeeProfileForDetails That quote does not imply that he sympathizes with Communist Russia. It shows that he is a critic of American policy, yes; he does not say that he condones what Russia was doing, only that the US was worse. He was comparing Eastern Europe's living conditions under Russian control to the third world countries under our boot. My Grandpa was in a Russian "work camp" (murder-torture camp) so I know the brutality of the Russians. However, we should still stop OUR atrocities.
tstruss912 1 year ago
@SeeProfileForDetails
You're real idiot or right wing propagandist. Go back to school and learn reading comprehension. You obviously lack it.
WorldPeace4All6 1 year ago
@WorldPeace4All6 The left wing is 100 percent correct, the right wing is 100 percent bad ideas and bad people. Kind of like black vs white people. Sure sure.
SeeProfileForDetails 1 year ago
@SeeProfileForDetails No one ever claimed this. However, you claimed he wasn't critical of soviet russia, and this is absolutely 100% false. You wouldn't have to search hard to find his criticism of Russia's invasion of afghanistan, for instance, which leads me to believe you're the one who has done no "critical research".
rujiel17 1 year ago