Let's just end all this argument here!! Mustangs and American Muscle V8's are the shit. Dont know what happen in this race because I smoke Z's all day long. Ford is the shit and the Cobra leads the Mustang pack!!
@shinypurplewalrus That's funny. My guess is that you don't own either one of the cars shown in this video. So you don't really have anything to do with the converstion here. At best your a marginal Muscle Lover. You have no passion for the Mustang. So that's why you don't understand. But either way I don't really give a shit. Unless you have an 01 Cobra or a 350 Z. This doesn't concern you.
@shinypurplewalrus No I am not sour. I just can't stand to see the car driven like shit! Especially when I daily drive the same car and I know what it's capable of!! By what I can tell your no fan of Muscle! At best you admire Muscle. I can tell by your reply!! No passion just blank. But I guess passion = Retarded and Blank don't give a shit = cool. Guess I am retarded then.
@MR01cobrasvt Can you quantify that? Define the shit. And doesn't the mach 1 outperform the pre 03-04 cobras? And last I checked at this point the fastest road course mustang is a boss. American muscle has its charms, but don't be ridiculous they aren't a class above everything.
@ztunelover The shit as in there is not a lot out there that can beat me on the street of the track. The new 5.0 has over 400 horsepower and can pull over a G on the skid pad. The latest motortrend magazine were they are testing the best of the supercars bugatti, porsche 911, Nissan GTR. You know what car they used as the base model for the test of comparing how super the super cars are?????? The Mustang!!! Why well as motortrend says. It's a beast of a car in it's own right. Any more ??
@MR01cobrasvt Did they now? I'm holding the latest motor trend in my hand and I see no trace of a veyron. There is a boss 302 laguna seca in here. It did fairly well, I'm happy they rated it higher than the vette, but it isn't up to the same league as the supercars.
@ztunelover Actually your right. It was another car magazine I was reading through yesterday. That used the Mustang as the base for the supercars. Yes the Mustang is no supercar. But I think it's a daily driver supercar. One that people who are not the CEO's at Apple, or major companys can afford. Do a little tweeking in the right spots and you have supercar power.
@ztunelover The mach 1 is a couple hundred pounds lighter than the 01 COBRA, It is basically a 98 COBRA, with a straight axle and 3.27 axle gears. On a road course, the 01 with independent rear suspension is "Faster." In terms of mustangs "Aren't a class above anything," Go to the Ford vehicles homepage and click on the link for the 2013 GT500: 650hp and 600ft/lb, the most powerful production v-8 in the world, ever! So, that kinda makes mustang a class above everything, doesn't it?
@J20M10R Ok so with its most powerful production v8 can it beat all other production v8s? I have a sneaking suspision the zr1 and z06 are still faster, and I can gurantee many imports that give a full 100 or more hp to it will still beat it. :) Mustangs always look better on paper than they are in real life. Great cars, but not quite as amazing as the hype suggests. If you want to tell everyone you have a car matching an enzo in power go ahead, grab the shelby. Theres more to cars than power.
@ztunelover The 550hp version runs 12.2 with a average drive and stock rubber and as low as 11.3 with nothing more than drag slicks. So, what do you think another 100+hp and more torque will do? The GT500 has something the ZR1 and Enzo don't, a back seat. Your right, there are more to cars than power: things like being able to drive it every day if you want to, decent gas mileage, and not costing $100K or having to sell your soul to the devil to afford one.
@J20M10R 11.3 with slicks can you send me a vid or forum with slip pics? I need to see this. The back seats in most coupes are quite unusable, and that would be the first thing to go if I got one, you forgot handling in there. Costing 100k? So what? Work harder and get the better car, I've been in the old gt500 that did 160mph, and it felt like everything was falling apart, I wonder how terrifying 200 would be in the same chassis. Not to mention this wont be exclusive.
@ztunelover Here is a video on youtube of a guy going 11.16 @ 124. As far as the GT500 you were in, well, there was a pretty significant chassis update in both 2010 and 2011. And whatever it was, I assure you that it was not "falling apart". I switched to FORD after owning 3 Camaros, all of which broke constantly. Every other F-bod owner I knew had the same problems and just made excuses for them.
@J20M10R So let me ask you, how well do those slicks hold up to road course use, and how long do they last during daily use? I do autocross and some road courses whenever I can in the summer, and being a fresh graduate I'm not loaded with money. So burning through a set of tires every even isn't an option. As far as camaros, cmon man, I'll quote James May, they are like a car only not as good, anything would look more solid than GMs craptacular products.
@ztunelover Sorry, it would not let me post with the link in the message below. search youtube for "2011 GT500 slicks" your first results will be a 2011 gt500 posted by the owner. Youtube is full of similar videos. I still find it amazing that you consider a 200+PMH FACTORY STOCK mustang to be not "A class above anything" even though there are only a handful of cars in the world that go 200+. Being married with 4 kids and still being able to afford one, now that is really amazing.
@J20M10R I consider the mustang to be best in class, and your class above everything arguement falls apart the moment I look the pic of a 458 italia(80 less horsies). Handful? It was a handful in the late 80s, F40, Diablo end of 200mph club. The handful is now the 250mph club. If you want to go fast with kids, get a m5, thats your ever capable car with immense practicality right there. And whats the ring time of the new gt500 again? Enjoy the 200mph.
@ztunelover With all do respect, my guess is that you don't have a ferrari 458 or a GT500, so..No, my argument doesn't fall apart and yes, the 200mph club still only has a handful of cars, all priced well above the gt500. The 458 costs what? $300g's, right? $55K for the GT500, so if you have to win the loto or inherit a fortune to afford it, it is just a dream. For what it's worth, spies at the nurburgring say the 2013 gt500 pulling 7:30 laps. That is fast by any definition.
@J20M10R Nope have neither. My question is why is it automatically a class above everything just because it makes a big amount of power? american muscle cars never lacked in the horsepower department. And can you source these spy times? I'm hearing something in the 7:40s with sticky pirrellis, I know the zl1 was using those michelin sport cups for its 7:41. In order to be a class above everything it needs to be exclusive, so only those that are a class above everyone can get it.
@J20M10R And like you said, 55k many people that arent a class above everyone can get it. And 200mph in this day and age isn't really all that impressive. A lot of cars can hit it, the benchmark has been moved to 250mph. Thats the tough bird for now, with ssc and bugatti and koenigsegg the only 3 there.
@ztunelover What is "Alot of cars," a dozen or so? Lets see, there's the ZR1 ($120k), the viper ACR($100k), the Ford GT $(125k), the Lambo gallardo ($205K) and mucialago ($350k), The Ferrari 458 ($205) and 599 ($300+), Porsch gt3 ($135k) and carrerra GT ($440K), Merc SLR Mclaren ($450K), the McLaren F1 ($1mil.). The Merc sls amg and benty gt speed hit 190's. So, of the major manufactures worldwide, I count 12 cars, 15 with the above mentioned. That's not "A lot of cars."
@ztunelover If 200hp is not that impressive, what kind of car are you driving? Or are you driving a nisan altima and just talking smack? Find another car for under $100k that can do what the GT500 does. As far as I can see, the GT500 is the top dog in the under $100K class. I would love to be able to afford a 458 Italia or a 599 GTO, but the NAVY doesn't pay that well and I don't have any rich relatives about to die and leave me a fortune.
@Storm7289 Rated at 198, trust me a stock z06 CAN hit 200mph, needs quite a bit of pavement but its been done before, same with many apparently cant hit 200mph vehicles that can, 911 turbo turbo s, f430, even the 2012 gtr rated at 195 mph hit 200. In 1989 the list was short, ford gt40, ferrari f40, lamborghini diablo, end. List is a bit more extensive now if you look at it. Now the benchmark is 250mph. SSC and Bugatti are the only ones populating that list.
@ztunelover its still not an easy as cake feat to achieve. i dont see a ctsv hitting near there. its not the power thats the problem anymore its the aerodynamics and required downforce as im sure you know. i think its awesome so see an american pony car get into the 200mph club, well not yet so well see
@Storm7289 I never claimed it was easy bud. I'm just not all foaming in the mouth like some people I know as a result. Yes it is still impressive to hit 200mph, but people are looking at it like its a complete technical breakthrough and I'm sorry it just isn't. I'm happy for ford, and I'm sure more inexpensive vehicles will follow this car into the 200s, but like I said its not like this is completely new and different, Ford already crossed that mark in the 60s if you remember with the gt40.
@ztunelover not to mention that bugattis and ssc's are cars in EXTREMELY limited quantity, so much so that i dare say they be called a production car. well bugatti is owned by vw so maybe. they should have some homologation rule to be considered a production car, guess its stupid anyways, theres always some radical car out there thats faster than the other
@Storm7289 And those are the cars that are showing what is technically cutting edge of today. GT500 is a very impressive vehicle no doubt about it, but the shelby never impressed me that much because it was so heavy and bulky, I mean in a recent test a boxter spyder just beat out a 2011 gt500 with the svt handling pack around a track, I mean 330hp vs 550hp, I know the porsche is 600-800lbs lighter but comeon thats a 200+hp difference, it shouldn't even be close. But the theoretical winner lost.
@ztunelover too bad you dont have to be a good driver to go fast anymore, dual clutches and what not, automatics are becoming faster than manuals... for shame. at least the bad drivers cant hang with us good drivers on a road course and will never be able to! :P
@Storm7289 When it comes to track toys I personally prefer dual clutch gearboxes, I usually don't go to tracks to enjoy the scenery, I go there to hone my driving and make myself faster, flappy paddles are here to stay, and after driving a couple of the newest and best I have no complaints, ferrari has canned manuals, lambo just followed,future gtr will be dct, pagani, koenigsegg, bugatti, pretty much every supercar/hypercar manufacturer is going that way. I want a manual for my canyon cruiser.
@ztunelover i question where you saw the gt500 losing to a boxter spyder. the boss 302 beat the cayman R on a track according to motortrend and the gt500 comes close to the boss' times so a lowly boxter wouldnt stand a chance. yes dual clutch automated manuals are an impressive feat, but with them any driver can be good. the days where your car was only as good as you is what i miss. driving is all about being one with your car anyways i feel.
@Storm7289 Not true. DCT boxes shift unnaturally fast, they don't don't do shit for braking zones or turn in. and it was either road and track or car and driver that did the test. And the boxster spyder was faster, and yes the boss ls is quicker than the cayman r on its home track in the car and driver best handling test. Remember, home field advantage is still a factor, I want a different test track just to balance out the numbers, I think at VIR it would be closer.
@Storm7289 For pure experience of a great drive my options are simple and narrow, mazda miata with some very specific modifications, lotus elise/exige, porsche cayman r.
@Storm7289 Yes, but my definition of high revving is 8000rpm or higher, and 2 of those 3 don't hit that. I dream and love supercars, but realistically I would want a very simple lightweight well sorted beautifully balanced rwd sports car, be it mid engined or front engined. The miata I love because you can reach its limits in a canyon road, and they aren't so high that one mistake paints you on the side of the mountain, its easy to recover, but the experience is great.
@Storm7289 Oh and for the elise I would add the optional roll bars, if theres one thing I didn't enjoy about the lotus it was the body roll, the cayman is getting on the pricey side, and there are faster cars for less, but trust me once you drive one, you just wont car because the experience is brilliant. Beyond brilliant, I can't explain it, just drive one, and you will see what I mean. And for me I can live with it every day.
@ztunelover great cars but personally i like having a car that isnt high tech and cutting edge, i want something that is rough and has tons of low end torque. two different worlds i guess
@Storm7289 You would think they are high tech, but the cayman is a shockingly simple vehicle. But as for the rough torque monster the shelby would be perfect for you. Thats why there is different manufacturers, different people have different expectations out of their cars, and I can't blame you for wanting the shelby, it provides exactly what you are looking for.
@Storm7289 and the boss 302 specially the ls edition is a very tracky car, the shelby is more of a highway bruiser. And yes DCT isn't legal in many sanctioned events, but eventually there will have to be dct specific classes, and the most modern hypercars are too insane for most people to be one with them, sadly for most people its a show tool, for oneness these cars are silly for me.
@J20M10R The Mach 1 is NOT like a ´98 Cobra at all. 96/98 Cobra´s where B-head 32v's whereas the Mach1 uses C-heads and makes much more torque low and mid range. Mach's also came with 3.55 gears, not 3.27's. '01 cobra and Mach1's are pretty much the same engine-wise.
@jacknickprobe No kidding, but only a real die-hard mustang fanatic would care. What I meant is that (comparison wise) both cars weigh about the same, have solid axle vs. 99/01 IRS, and are rated for about the same HP and same displacement. Nobody must mustang lovers care about B vs C heads. I have an 01 COBRA. The Mach 1 is about 0.1-0.2 quicker in the quarter, but the 01 IRS rides nicer. Tomato-tamatoe. I also had a 96 COBRA and there wasn't much difference.
All this talk about power to weight ratios, so I looked up the specs for a 2001 COBRA and a 2007 350Z. The 01 COBRA coupe/vert weighs 3430/3560 and makes 320hp/317 lb.-ft. The 07 Z coupe/vert (Grand Touring) weighs 3404/ 3602 and (Enthusiast) 3346/3580 @ 306 hp/268 lb. ft. So maybe someone can explain to me again how the Z is faster or better than a COBRA because it has a "Better power to weight ratio"??? Try comparing the 370Z to the Boss 5.0, who will win on a track?? Hmm, let me think.......
@J20M10R That's what I was trying to say at the top of the comment list. But no one seems to be listening. I have an 01 Cobra and had it commercially weighed. And my car actually came in at 3,325 pounds with full fluids including a full gas tank. But like I said before the driver of that Cobra either doesnt know how to race. Or that person is short shifting and not taking it up to 6,000 RPM. The 01 Cobra doesnt even begin to pull until 3,000 rpm.
@panoulis20 so not overrated.. there is something to be said for the feeling of the older cars and the sounds od a V8.. and BTW i think the 12 year old technology held up well ;-) ... BTW my 99 cobra will run 13 flat ;-) stock.. i suppose its elevation
@xmodrock the 99 had several issues, that's why there was not a 2000 COBRA (excepting the COBRA-R). That being said, my 2001 COBRA Vert will run 13.7 all day with crappy bald street tires and and not so much as an air filter or cat-back. I tend to agree, 12 year old tech it is, but look where they are now. I'd like to see a stock 370Z take a 5.0 GT or a GT500. And, for what its worth, 13.3 out of a 350Z...that Z is most definitely not stock .
@J20M10R yea, um that is the stock drag times on an 07.... ps every car comparison especially fifth gear/top gear has put the 350z and mustang gt head to head at each corresponding year... even the prior 2006 model beat the 06gt in 1/4 and to 60mph, not to mention the track times were multiple seconds different where the mustang can't hang tight. the HR engine in the 07 kicks ass and when the gt 5.0 came out it still is getting its ass handed to it with a 3.8 V6!! 370z
@Hondamchero With all do respect, the 5.0 GT is running 12.8's on factory rubber and 11.8's on drag radials. It dynos 368-378 RWHP bone stock. You tube 2011 GT 1/4 mile. I have driven the Infinity G37 coupe and, although it is impressive, it doesn't come close to the 2011 GT and only gets the 4.6 COBRA's at the launch. From a roll, like 30mph, the 350 isn't any faster than the COBRA. I just put 275/40/ZR17's on my COBRA and I am pretty sure I can do better than the stock 13.8 @102.5
@J20M10R Thats great. The 370z still beats the new gt's, just like they upgraded to the 5.0 so did nissan with the 370. If you want to bring radials into play you have to consider putting them on both cars for fair comparison which would boost both times on each car (so stupid argument). The g37 coupe is an entirely different car... thats like me saying that the crown vic and the mustang gt are the same car because they both sported the same v8 engine. oh and the f150.
Gonna have to call you out on the 370z beats the new GT's. Don't know where you live but the new GT's are trappin Mid 12's to low 13's and whoopin M3 ass on the track. My 01 cobra ripped out 13.6's all day (STOCK EVERYTHING) 07 nismos ive seen do 13.1 to 13.6's (six years apart???). I would say 370z's are on par with 99-01 cobras(track and drag) and 03-04 mach1's (better drag but slower track times than nismo 370z's). 03-04 cobras and 05+ Gts kill any Z or G car PERIOD.
@J20M10R I actually really like ford in the recent years and what they have accomplished in their new direction. The mustang is a well sold vehicle that people are attracted to. Its a fun car with some good power, it is the everyday person's sports car. its great for guys with families and people that still want practicality. The fact is however that the 350 and 370z are bred for track and enthusiast use at an affordable price. It is race bred and will kill any mustang on any racetrack
@J20M10R they are better in corners, have better power to weight/ torque to weight figures, better geared for race use and a better center of gravity/ lower stance. When it comes to strict performance they are awesome cars and thats why they are loved.. it will never however replace the mustang as the standard sports car because they seat two/they are not comfortable daily drivers, there is no noise dampening, the suspension is stiff for racing and not perfect for every road. it comes to opinion
@Hondamchero Like I said, I have driven a G37 coupe, which is basically a 370Z. Personally, I thought it felt pretty much the same as my COBRA except the G37 launched noticeably harder. Nissan definitely has that suspension "Tweeked out." The ride height and firmness was also different. But, I switched out the factory treads on my COBRA for summer only YZ's with 275's in the rear and it makes a BIG difference. It is still worth noting that I am talking about an 11 yr old car, not the GT 5.0.
@Hondamchero For what it is worth, I also only spent $9800 on my current COBRA, which is exactly the heart of the issue and always was: That the Mustang represents the best performance "Bang-for-the-buck." It is also worth noting that in 2001, the record for the most lateral G's of any production car belonged to a mustang COBRA. They handle far better than you give them credit for. I would agree that it is a matter of opinion. Hey, at least your not comparing it to a Jeep!
And sorry for the weird sentences my phone keeps auto correcting words like it turns dyno into dump... anyways to prove my point I raced a supercharges g35 making 450 at the wheels(supposedly) . I raped the shit out of it. Why you ask? Shitty driver , end of story. And you didn't beat an SS on the interstate nice lie. You should have said at a light, that's more believable, those camaros have great top end and even beat me if we are already moving. What you raced is a v6 with the RS package
Not hating just look itbl the facts on the post below. I had a 2007 G35 with the hr motor and my gf has a 2007 350z. My GT rapes them both even before my bolt one. Nice try, its crappy driver in video, that simple
@pyrodelta What year is your GT? Unless it's a 2011 with the 5.0 Coyote, you're full of shit. A 2007-08 350z with the HR engine is a low to mid 13-second car bone stock. They usually trap from 104-107mph in the 1/4 mile, which is on par with or faster than a 2005-10 GT. You must've run into some shitty drivers if you're walking away in your GT.. unless it's a 2011.
350z suck balls all you fan boys need to sit down and look it the facts. 350 hp is rated 315 at the flywheel, the actual number it outs down at the wheels on a dyno is a measly 235 hp. Wow gay, look it up if u don't believe me. My stock GT is rated at 315/325 and on dump stock it put 280/295 with few minor bolt ons + tune it went 310/325. So get a dam life, that z would never beat a bolt on cobra unless it was a horrible driver or the Z has heavy mods. I EAT Zs for breakfast.
@pyrodelta I could buy a Z and with the amount i would save I could turbo charge it and then have a car that would lick your cobra on the drag strip... or I could just take my Z and then have a car that would eat your modded cobra around a track STOCK.. oh right I forgot that most of you pricks only drive a straight line. Live one 1/4 at a time right bud? yea your hardcore. PS honestly the only mustang that has even tied up with the Z on power to weight is the new 5.0L coyote, against a 3.8 V6..
Again mustangs are cheaper and are alot more mod freindly WHY DO YOU THINK EVERYONE BUYS THEM you can make the car into whatever you want. A fr500 gt4 track car to a 2500+hp 5 sec drag car. Z's are fine for what they are. Modding mustang camaros anyday for anytype of racing over any asian european car. Ever look at the power to weight ratio on 99-01 same , 05-10 gt's better,03-04 cobras alot better, 11+gt's way better, 07+gt500 killin them.
Any turbo mustang will outperform any turboed Z with relative psi. Your z's are a poor mans vette/viper fine for what it is but its hindered by the manufacturer's ideas behind the car. Ford and Chevy give the consumer what they want a rwd car with a small block v-8 that doesn't weigh 5K. With this combination GM and Ford can build some fancy models but its the base v-8 versions the enthusiast want with their performance parts and aftermarket performance parts.
The skies the limit even with the lower end 2v 4.6L they used.You've got modded 4.6L 2v motors that are 20+ years old with a 30+year old chassis out performing any modded Zor anyother Jap or European car.Ford and GM know how to make a sports/pony car less is better as long as the package fits.You've never been to a track event have you cobra's (svt and shelby) are great track cars (STOCK).Gt'sOk STOCK the new GTs and BOSSES are INSANE track cars Z06/M3/GT2-3 911 insane. With a LSA
I understand everyone has preferences. But please Keep stupid comments like "I could just take my Z and then have a car that would eat a modded cobra" out of your debats. It really does make you ignorant. All us pricks always outnumber you Asian guys at road courses more mustang and camaros than anything only thing close in quantity is the miata. Please keep your little six's ill take my displacement so I can do as I please Nitrous/SC/Turbo or HIGH NA something small motors cant
@The2001cobra I have to agree with you on many points. Isn't the 370Z NISMO like $40G's? You could buy a nice GT5.0 for that, maybe even a Boss, and have 412-440hp vs 350. So I fail to see how you could "Save" money on a Z and make some kind of ridiculous Turbo comparison. For what it is worth, about $6k will buy you a 12psi compressor for the GT5.0 and nets about 680 rwhp. Turbo 370Z Vs a blown gt5.0: I wouldn't bet too much money on the Z car unless you have money to loose.
@rutz08 omfg.. No, you didn't. Either those people couldn't drive, or your car wasn't stock. 03-06 350z's run from a 13.8 to 14.1 1/4 mile at 99 to 102mph, and 07-08's run 13.2 to 13.6 at 104-108mph. You're not "killing" that with a stock 96 Cobra. Sorry man.. numbers are numbers. Power to weight ratio and gearing doesn't lie.
@hartsickdisciple power to weight, well the cobra has more power and less weight so it wins there, and the 350z's gearing is way to high, thats what kills those cars and makes them slow, my friend has one, I've driven it and ridden in it many times and it is much slower than my cobra, the cobra I had was pretty much stock, not completely stock, I had 3.73 gears in it, full off road exhaust, air intake, MSD ignition and thats it, which is why I say pretty much stock
@rutz08 A 2007-08 350z has more power than a 96 Cobra (SAE 2007+ 306hp is roughly equal to 315hp by the 1996 SAE standard). According to MSNautos, a 96 Cobra weighs 3393lbs. An 07-08 350z coupe is between 3200 and 3400. A 350z 6-speed has a 3.54 final drive, with a 6-speed close ratio trans. That gives the average 07-08 350z a bit of an edge on a 96 Cobra. You do realize that stock 07-08's have run 13.1-13.2's in the 1/4 mile, right? If that's "slow," than a 96 or 01 Cobra is slow too.
@hartsickdisciple this was an 03 350z, not an 07 when they got the hp boost, i raced him 3 times and every time there was not a chance, im not saying 350s are bad cars or that cobras are good cars im just saying what happened, i didnt know that the 350 had such an aggressive gearing, just doesnt feel that way when you drive it, may be the torque difference too
@rutz08 Even an 03-05 350z with the 287hp/274tq VQ35DE is a total driver's race vs. a 96 Cobra. Both cars run 0-60 in 5.3 to 5.6 seconds, and 1/4 mile in 13.8 to 14.1. If you won decisively, you either raced a crappy driver who didn't know how to shift and keep his car in the power band, you had some mods, you're driving a factory freak, or there was something wrong with the other car. A DE 350z is a dead match for a 96 Cobra in a straight line.
WOW YES a 370 out handles an M3 are you serious, a fuckin 350 out handles an m3...and no 2011 mustang is going to go at a fucking Z on a circuit course you are high as fuck.
@iaz300 they did a test at laguna seca with the same driver for all cars and the 2011 mustang boss 302 had a faster track speed then the Audi R8 let alone a Z
@iaz300 Or maybe you are just dumb. Mustang Gt will be right next to a 370z.... lord help you if there are reasonable straights... A.k.a long circuit courses... Boss.... will have the nismo seeing tail lights all day.
If that was a cobra with the super charger, it should kill any Stock Z. That said I heard a lot of spinning form a poor driver/tires. I run 12.2 @ 115 in my SRT6 crossfire with regular street tires, so probably driver;)
Anybody want to find times look up 1/4 mile times and it has almost every car. I must mention it doenst show the HR model it does show the new 370z doing 13.3. I thought flodhi1 was another kid trying to hype his car up. My mistake I never heard of that edition.
@JBWHITEGT yup found the times edmund has this 2008 HR motor stock running a 13.7 @ 103 where these other fan boys get a 13.1 @ 109 which by the way is a 6mph increase which at this weight means about an 80hp gain who knows. sounds like these 350Z fanboys got caught up on their own B.S nissan Fails
@flodhi1 so what your vids and time slips mean what your car is quick i dont see anything else do we know your car is stock? no we dont, i could say my cobra is stock, it has the stock motor, just intake and exhaust yet im trapping 115mph on streets and 118 on slicks. it has the stock supercharger stock 3.65"pulley making stock boost. you aint got to get all dumb about it bro. but props on your car, i dont like nissan thats all. they are cute lil cars to me.
@santiagomel00 Bro you got NO videos of racing ANY legit cars you're like racing Bull shit cars. Look at my videos where im racing a modded Mustang GT I got my front hood wide open NO MODS. Listen to every video got NO exhaust no intakes none of that BS. Even if kids got nitrous you can hear it. Tell me why there are SEVERAL HRs running my time? What were all lying now? go to my350z theres at least 5 HR Zs running low low 13s
@flodhi1 doesnt mean they are stock. and i dont race my car on the streets thats why dont post up vids of me racing cars. and im sure an s2000 would give you a good run so would a B18 hatch. track wont open till march. and i dont drive my car too often, not my daily driver anymore. i need a personal gas station for that car..either way your z is quick i've driven the DE motors felt quick up top but not really a neck breaker
@santiagomel00 I think you might have missed the street race I had with a modded s2000. Just take a look at the video and the DE 350z is rubbish to me. I personally think they are slow as fuck/old looking.
@santiagomel00 people drive or race DE 350zs ( which came out in 01) and start judgin the HR Zs ( 2007+) or V-HR Zs (370zs) they're totally different. The 370z and HR Z are pretty much the same thing 0-110 mph Around 120ish the 370z shines out on the hr z and the DE Z is not even in the pic. I've raced DE Zs and G35s literally pulled carsssssssssss on them. Even pulled a car length on a G37 type S. So trust me when ppl tell me how slow the z is they get a reality check in the street race.
@rutz08 I agree!!! It rapes every "manly" car it finds! LOL I went to the track last night and even with my street tires spinning I hit 7.9's @92 mph. Then on the way home I embarassed a new Camaro SS on the interstate. It was a good night:P
Ok my mistake. HR model 350z is not your ordinary 350z like I have raced. I did research and found its a reworked 3.5l motor. I never raced one but would welcome the challenge. Like I said before though I raced a 350z I would guess a 2005 model with twin turboes on low boost and we were toe to toe. I run 13.0 at 106 so it would be impressive to see an HR model with twin turboes.
This is to flodhi1. Yeah go tell your failytails to your little brother your lying ass. No fucking stock 350z runs 13.1. You just proved your a busta telling tall tails like disney. Fool the world racing community laughs at liars like u. 13.1 stock lmao. What u got mickey thompsons and launching at 8000 grand. Lol lying ass...
350 s are not built for the strip, mustangs are. but 350z still hold there own considering they only have a 3.5 v6.....one day i hope they put a high revving v8 in the Z car...that would be sick.
Oh and I recall racing a twin turboed 350z on low boost because his motor wasn't built yet and that was the only 350z that did stay with me toe to toe. We did like a 40 roll to 110 and we were toe to toe the whole way.
Yeah well my moms got the 370z and my 08 gt would dust it. I ve raced a couple of guys with the 370 and its quick and I can attest to that but it has never beat my gt, which only has a sct tuners and 410 gears. I would eat a 370z for a snack at low speed but I high speeds it would be on my tail because my car no longer has top end because of my gears. Check my videos out the cobras I raced smoked me and my car will do 13.0 in the 1/4 mile
no 350z stock will run 13.1!!! all of u saying this are full of shit, lol i like 350z;s dont get me wrong but yea ive driven a few and my buddie has one and after driving my roush 440a the 350z's feel like a damn turtle that may run high 13's mayyyybe
@afgandominator c'mon bro your comparing a 440A to a 350z well yeah that 350 is gonna feel like a turtle. and i havent seen any 350z run better than a 13.5 out here. i seen 370 run 14.0 and as fast as a 13.3 with mods. this track is unforgiving. that 440A is a beast, you got 140 lbs of torque over a 350 and 100 hp more weighing about the same. its like me a kill 370z all day in 01 cobra. even turbo 350z
@santiagomel00 I wasnt comparing the 350z to my Roush I was just saying that there is no way a stock 350z will run a 13.1, .... my Roush runs low low 12's and the 350 feels like a turtle after driving my Roush which is why i say theres noway they run a 13.1stock like some jabronie said on here or else it would feel sum what comparable to my stang running 13.1 but noway they are heavy and there trannys suck ass so i here but they r beautiful cars though for sure, my neighbor has a turbo z...quick
I'm not going to be an ass about it like some of the people here.. but it's a fact that 07-08 350z's have run as low as a 13.1 stock in the 1/4 mile. Plenty of 13.2's and 13.3's out there as well. The HR engine has a better powerband than the DE engine, as well as more peak HP. When you take into account the SAE power rating change that took effect for the 07's, they really have between 20 and 30hp more than the 03-06 cars. Also 7500 RPM redline lets you finish 1/4 mile in 3rd gear w/6mt.
Bullshit i just sold an all stock2002 s2000 and i raced an06 350z and beat it from start to 100 mph by a car legth.The guy was an excellent driver and was surprised but neither his car or my s2000 were 13.3 not even in our dreams.For you doubters out there the 350 was a six speed Ialso beat a 2010 tiptronic g37 2 door and i has a girl in the car.That was actually slower than the 06 350z .
you do realize the 06 is the slowest model year on record right (check my350z fastest times for proof)? You also realize the Z you raced was not an HR, only the 07-08's had the revised engine, and I'm also willing to bet it was probably an auto Z- just a guess though
@camirocz The 07-08 Z's have the more powerful HR motor. Low 13's are pretty common stock, with good driving. The Z in this video ran 13.1's pretty consistently and trapped as high as 109 stock. The only thing that kept it from running a high 12 stock is the factory slave cylinder, which inhibited me from making really hard launches. My old 2004 Z, which has the DE motor, ran a 13.6 stock and only trapped a 103 best.
@al3id In 2007 Nissan used a new motor, which they named the HR, which is different from the DE motor from the previous year. This engine uses dual intakes, revs higher, has higher compression and different internals, and making noticably more hp than the DE. Nissan rated them conservatively at 306 SAE, but rwhp figures have been from 270 to 290 stock, which with driveline loss comes out closer to 320 hp. The result was a noticably faster and more powerful 350Z.
@matt1180 dude 20-30 hp aint gonna give you a 6mph gain it takes close to 80 hp to give you those gains especially on a car that weighs 3400lbs. thats how i know this 350 is modded.
@Dart00Z not really those n/a cobras are easier to make an 11' sec car with bolt ons that that piece of shit jap crap 350. put 4.30 gears and full bolts on and a tune with launch control and a set of stickies. your full bolt on 350 wont stand a chance
Fuck the race, did you see those 2 hotties at the end?
And my Bullshit flag is up as well. I own a 2003 Mach 1 (Same engine as a 2001 Cobra) and I raced a 350z. Both of us had full exhaust, and cold air. He had some other bolt ons (That I really didn't care about) and I have 4.10 gears. I didn't even take my TC Off. By the time I hit 3rd, I was gone. Needless to say he was quite pissed.
@ambientflier Uhm I don't recall my original comment but judging by your comment I'm guessing it was along the lines of how a stock 350z couldn't beat a 2001 Cobra. I raced a 350Z (Don't know what year) against my 2003 Mach1. The 2001 Cobra had the same motor as the 2003 Mach1, with the exception of a different cam. When I raced the 350Z, who claimed to have full exhaust, I beat him by the time I hit 3rd. Now I got a '04 Terminator Cobra, and no-one is beating me. :)
All u morons think that the hr motors can't get 13.3? Haha retards well they do 07 and 08 350z are differ from the old one and I have a 07 and I ran 13.5 was my best time and ya I have seen the z run 13.3 before running stock
you sir are a fucking liar about that z i have an 01 cobra mine is stock other than a 70 mm throttle body injectors an an intake an my friend has the exact same z as on this video an by the time i cross the 1/8 or 1/4 finish line hes so far behind me its not funny an his has the same upgrades as me for his motor so either your a liar or the guy in the cobra deserves to be shot
@rolodix dude i wen my 01 ss had bolt ons like a 3200 stall underdrive pulley slp air lid 373 gear 105mm throttlebody and a 102 mm fast intake i was beating tt 350zs i swear to god bro wen my ca r was all factory i raced a dodge stealth tt and beat that iv only been beat ny one 4 banger and that was a stage3 srt-4 neon with a 150shot lol
@rolodix So your low 13's car pulls very hard on another low-mid 13's car even by 8th mile? Yeah, I call bs on that. Either your friend isn't a good driver or his car isn't an 07.
@SlartyFartBlast Yes a stock 2007 or 2008 350z will run 13.3 stock, they have the HR motors, alot faster then the older models. Its just that alot of people dont know that and talk shet with out knowing. For example, YOU
@SlartyFartBlast I guess you should go to the Z forums and tell that to the countless people that ran in the low 13's with the HR motor and no mods, loser.
Driver, problem solved.
Hr is aight but they can't drag on me in my 05gt.
equally modded 01 cobras SHOULD kill it.
4.6l 4v dohc. come on folks we all know so ;)
ralatorre9 3 months ago
hahaha shitty driver. stock hr isn't as fast, i raced equaly moded 01 cobras in my 05gt and they're still quicker.
just sayin, no need to attack me.
ralatorre9 3 months ago
Let's just end all this argument here!! Mustangs and American Muscle V8's are the shit. Dont know what happen in this race because I smoke Z's all day long. Ford is the shit and the Cobra leads the Mustang pack!!
MR01cobrasvt 5 months ago
@MR01cobrasvt You sound sour. I love muscle, but you make muscle fans sound absolutely retarded.
shinypurplewalrus 4 months ago
@shinypurplewalrus That's funny. My guess is that you don't own either one of the cars shown in this video. So you don't really have anything to do with the converstion here. At best your a marginal Muscle Lover. You have no passion for the Mustang. So that's why you don't understand. But either way I don't really give a shit. Unless you have an 01 Cobra or a 350 Z. This doesn't concern you.
MR01cobrasvt 4 months ago
@shinypurplewalrus No I am not sour. I just can't stand to see the car driven like shit! Especially when I daily drive the same car and I know what it's capable of!! By what I can tell your no fan of Muscle! At best you admire Muscle. I can tell by your reply!! No passion just blank. But I guess passion = Retarded and Blank don't give a shit = cool. Guess I am retarded then.
MR01cobrasvt 4 months ago
@MR01cobrasvt Can you quantify that? Define the shit. And doesn't the mach 1 outperform the pre 03-04 cobras? And last I checked at this point the fastest road course mustang is a boss. American muscle has its charms, but don't be ridiculous they aren't a class above everything.
ztunelover 4 months ago
@ztunelover The shit as in there is not a lot out there that can beat me on the street of the track. The new 5.0 has over 400 horsepower and can pull over a G on the skid pad. The latest motortrend magazine were they are testing the best of the supercars bugatti, porsche 911, Nissan GTR. You know what car they used as the base model for the test of comparing how super the super cars are?????? The Mustang!!! Why well as motortrend says. It's a beast of a car in it's own right. Any more ??
MR01cobrasvt 4 months ago
@MR01cobrasvt Did they now? I'm holding the latest motor trend in my hand and I see no trace of a veyron. There is a boss 302 laguna seca in here. It did fairly well, I'm happy they rated it higher than the vette, but it isn't up to the same league as the supercars.
ztunelover 4 months ago
@ztunelover Actually your right. It was another car magazine I was reading through yesterday. That used the Mustang as the base for the supercars. Yes the Mustang is no supercar. But I think it's a daily driver supercar. One that people who are not the CEO's at Apple, or major companys can afford. Do a little tweeking in the right spots and you have supercar power.
MR01cobrasvt 4 months ago
@MR01cobrasvt No arguements there.
ztunelover 4 months ago
@ztunelover The mach 1 is a couple hundred pounds lighter than the 01 COBRA, It is basically a 98 COBRA, with a straight axle and 3.27 axle gears. On a road course, the 01 with independent rear suspension is "Faster." In terms of mustangs "Aren't a class above anything," Go to the Ford vehicles homepage and click on the link for the 2013 GT500: 650hp and 600ft/lb, the most powerful production v-8 in the world, ever! So, that kinda makes mustang a class above everything, doesn't it?
J20M10R 2 months ago
@J20M10R Ok so with its most powerful production v8 can it beat all other production v8s? I have a sneaking suspision the zr1 and z06 are still faster, and I can gurantee many imports that give a full 100 or more hp to it will still beat it. :) Mustangs always look better on paper than they are in real life. Great cars, but not quite as amazing as the hype suggests. If you want to tell everyone you have a car matching an enzo in power go ahead, grab the shelby. Theres more to cars than power.
ztunelover 2 months ago
@ztunelover The 550hp version runs 12.2 with a average drive and stock rubber and as low as 11.3 with nothing more than drag slicks. So, what do you think another 100+hp and more torque will do? The GT500 has something the ZR1 and Enzo don't, a back seat. Your right, there are more to cars than power: things like being able to drive it every day if you want to, decent gas mileage, and not costing $100K or having to sell your soul to the devil to afford one.
J20M10R 2 months ago
@J20M10R 11.3 with slicks can you send me a vid or forum with slip pics? I need to see this. The back seats in most coupes are quite unusable, and that would be the first thing to go if I got one, you forgot handling in there. Costing 100k? So what? Work harder and get the better car, I've been in the old gt500 that did 160mph, and it felt like everything was falling apart, I wonder how terrifying 200 would be in the same chassis. Not to mention this wont be exclusive.
ztunelover 2 months ago
@ztunelover Here is a video on youtube of a guy going 11.16 @ 124. As far as the GT500 you were in, well, there was a pretty significant chassis update in both 2010 and 2011. And whatever it was, I assure you that it was not "falling apart". I switched to FORD after owning 3 Camaros, all of which broke constantly. Every other F-bod owner I knew had the same problems and just made excuses for them.
J20M10R 2 months ago
@J20M10R So let me ask you, how well do those slicks hold up to road course use, and how long do they last during daily use? I do autocross and some road courses whenever I can in the summer, and being a fresh graduate I'm not loaded with money. So burning through a set of tires every even isn't an option. As far as camaros, cmon man, I'll quote James May, they are like a car only not as good, anything would look more solid than GMs craptacular products.
ztunelover 2 months ago
@ztunelover Sorry, it would not let me post with the link in the message below. search youtube for "2011 GT500 slicks" your first results will be a 2011 gt500 posted by the owner. Youtube is full of similar videos. I still find it amazing that you consider a 200+PMH FACTORY STOCK mustang to be not "A class above anything" even though there are only a handful of cars in the world that go 200+. Being married with 4 kids and still being able to afford one, now that is really amazing.
J20M10R 2 months ago
@J20M10R I consider the mustang to be best in class, and your class above everything arguement falls apart the moment I look the pic of a 458 italia(80 less horsies). Handful? It was a handful in the late 80s, F40, Diablo end of 200mph club. The handful is now the 250mph club. If you want to go fast with kids, get a m5, thats your ever capable car with immense practicality right there. And whats the ring time of the new gt500 again? Enjoy the 200mph.
ztunelover 2 months ago
@ztunelover With all do respect, my guess is that you don't have a ferrari 458 or a GT500, so..No, my argument doesn't fall apart and yes, the 200mph club still only has a handful of cars, all priced well above the gt500. The 458 costs what? $300g's, right? $55K for the GT500, so if you have to win the loto or inherit a fortune to afford it, it is just a dream. For what it's worth, spies at the nurburgring say the 2013 gt500 pulling 7:30 laps. That is fast by any definition.
J20M10R 2 months ago
@J20M10R Nope have neither. My question is why is it automatically a class above everything just because it makes a big amount of power? american muscle cars never lacked in the horsepower department. And can you source these spy times? I'm hearing something in the 7:40s with sticky pirrellis, I know the zl1 was using those michelin sport cups for its 7:41. In order to be a class above everything it needs to be exclusive, so only those that are a class above everyone can get it.
ztunelover 2 months ago
@J20M10R And like you said, 55k many people that arent a class above everyone can get it. And 200mph in this day and age isn't really all that impressive. A lot of cars can hit it, the benchmark has been moved to 250mph. Thats the tough bird for now, with ssc and bugatti and koenigsegg the only 3 there.
ztunelover 2 months ago
@ztunelover What is "Alot of cars," a dozen or so? Lets see, there's the ZR1 ($120k), the viper ACR($100k), the Ford GT $(125k), the Lambo gallardo ($205K) and mucialago ($350k), The Ferrari 458 ($205) and 599 ($300+), Porsch gt3 ($135k) and carrerra GT ($440K), Merc SLR Mclaren ($450K), the McLaren F1 ($1mil.). The Merc sls amg and benty gt speed hit 190's. So, of the major manufactures worldwide, I count 12 cars, 15 with the above mentioned. That's not "A lot of cars."
J20M10R 2 months ago
@ztunelover If 200hp is not that impressive, what kind of car are you driving? Or are you driving a nisan altima and just talking smack? Find another car for under $100k that can do what the GT500 does. As far as I can see, the GT500 is the top dog in the under $100K class. I would love to be able to afford a 458 Italia or a 599 GTO, but the NAVY doesn't pay that well and I don't have any rich relatives about to die and leave me a fortune.
J20M10R 2 months ago
@J20M10R What about the GTR.... the numbers are pretty close
r300zxsupras200 2 months ago
@ztunelover a lot of cars can hit 200mph? are you dumb. not even a z06 can hit 200 in stock form it tops out at 198
Storm7289 1 month ago
@Storm7289 Rated at 198, trust me a stock z06 CAN hit 200mph, needs quite a bit of pavement but its been done before, same with many apparently cant hit 200mph vehicles that can, 911 turbo turbo s, f430, even the 2012 gtr rated at 195 mph hit 200. In 1989 the list was short, ford gt40, ferrari f40, lamborghini diablo, end. List is a bit more extensive now if you look at it. Now the benchmark is 250mph. SSC and Bugatti are the only ones populating that list.
ztunelover 1 month ago
@ztunelover its still not an easy as cake feat to achieve. i dont see a ctsv hitting near there. its not the power thats the problem anymore its the aerodynamics and required downforce as im sure you know. i think its awesome so see an american pony car get into the 200mph club, well not yet so well see
Storm7289 1 month ago
@Storm7289 I never claimed it was easy bud. I'm just not all foaming in the mouth like some people I know as a result. Yes it is still impressive to hit 200mph, but people are looking at it like its a complete technical breakthrough and I'm sorry it just isn't. I'm happy for ford, and I'm sure more inexpensive vehicles will follow this car into the 200s, but like I said its not like this is completely new and different, Ford already crossed that mark in the 60s if you remember with the gt40.
ztunelover 1 month ago
@ztunelover not to mention that bugattis and ssc's are cars in EXTREMELY limited quantity, so much so that i dare say they be called a production car. well bugatti is owned by vw so maybe. they should have some homologation rule to be considered a production car, guess its stupid anyways, theres always some radical car out there thats faster than the other
Storm7289 1 month ago
@Storm7289 And those are the cars that are showing what is technically cutting edge of today. GT500 is a very impressive vehicle no doubt about it, but the shelby never impressed me that much because it was so heavy and bulky, I mean in a recent test a boxter spyder just beat out a 2011 gt500 with the svt handling pack around a track, I mean 330hp vs 550hp, I know the porsche is 600-800lbs lighter but comeon thats a 200+hp difference, it shouldn't even be close. But the theoretical winner lost.
ztunelover 1 month ago
@ztunelover too bad you dont have to be a good driver to go fast anymore, dual clutches and what not, automatics are becoming faster than manuals... for shame. at least the bad drivers cant hang with us good drivers on a road course and will never be able to! :P
Storm7289 1 month ago
@Storm7289 When it comes to track toys I personally prefer dual clutch gearboxes, I usually don't go to tracks to enjoy the scenery, I go there to hone my driving and make myself faster, flappy paddles are here to stay, and after driving a couple of the newest and best I have no complaints, ferrari has canned manuals, lambo just followed,future gtr will be dct, pagani, koenigsegg, bugatti, pretty much every supercar/hypercar manufacturer is going that way. I want a manual for my canyon cruiser.
ztunelover 1 month ago
@ztunelover i question where you saw the gt500 losing to a boxter spyder. the boss 302 beat the cayman R on a track according to motortrend and the gt500 comes close to the boss' times so a lowly boxter wouldnt stand a chance. yes dual clutch automated manuals are an impressive feat, but with them any driver can be good. the days where your car was only as good as you is what i miss. driving is all about being one with your car anyways i feel.
Storm7289 1 month ago
@Storm7289 Not true. DCT boxes shift unnaturally fast, they don't don't do shit for braking zones or turn in. and it was either road and track or car and driver that did the test. And the boxster spyder was faster, and yes the boss ls is quicker than the cayman r on its home track in the car and driver best handling test. Remember, home field advantage is still a factor, I want a different test track just to balance out the numbers, I think at VIR it would be closer.
ztunelover 1 month ago
@Storm7289 For pure experience of a great drive my options are simple and narrow, mazda miata with some very specific modifications, lotus elise/exige, porsche cayman r.
ztunelover 1 month ago
@ztunelover so you like high revving cars? i see the next gt500 changing what it has been thought of for 5 years.
Storm7289 1 month ago
@Storm7289 Yes, but my definition of high revving is 8000rpm or higher, and 2 of those 3 don't hit that. I dream and love supercars, but realistically I would want a very simple lightweight well sorted beautifully balanced rwd sports car, be it mid engined or front engined. The miata I love because you can reach its limits in a canyon road, and they aren't so high that one mistake paints you on the side of the mountain, its easy to recover, but the experience is great.
ztunelover 1 month ago
@Storm7289 Oh and for the elise I would add the optional roll bars, if theres one thing I didn't enjoy about the lotus it was the body roll, the cayman is getting on the pricey side, and there are faster cars for less, but trust me once you drive one, you just wont car because the experience is brilliant. Beyond brilliant, I can't explain it, just drive one, and you will see what I mean. And for me I can live with it every day.
ztunelover 1 month ago
@ztunelover great cars but personally i like having a car that isnt high tech and cutting edge, i want something that is rough and has tons of low end torque. two different worlds i guess
Storm7289 1 month ago
@Storm7289 You would think they are high tech, but the cayman is a shockingly simple vehicle. But as for the rough torque monster the shelby would be perfect for you. Thats why there is different manufacturers, different people have different expectations out of their cars, and I can't blame you for wanting the shelby, it provides exactly what you are looking for.
ztunelover 1 month ago
@ztunelover didnt know that about the cayman. yes i guess that would be a great car, if only i could afford it lol. maybe someday
Storm7289 1 month ago
@ztunelover anyways dont a lot of race organizations forbid dual clutch systems or any autos for that matter
Storm7289 1 month ago
@Storm7289 and the boss 302 specially the ls edition is a very tracky car, the shelby is more of a highway bruiser. And yes DCT isn't legal in many sanctioned events, but eventually there will have to be dct specific classes, and the most modern hypercars are too insane for most people to be one with them, sadly for most people its a show tool, for oneness these cars are silly for me.
ztunelover 1 month ago
@J20M10R The Mach 1 is NOT like a ´98 Cobra at all. 96/98 Cobra´s where B-head 32v's whereas the Mach1 uses C-heads and makes much more torque low and mid range. Mach's also came with 3.55 gears, not 3.27's. '01 cobra and Mach1's are pretty much the same engine-wise.
jacknickprobe 2 months ago
@jacknickprobe
Thats what I was going to say
r300zxsupras200 2 months ago
@jacknickprobe No kidding, but only a real die-hard mustang fanatic would care. What I meant is that (comparison wise) both cars weigh about the same, have solid axle vs. 99/01 IRS, and are rated for about the same HP and same displacement. Nobody must mustang lovers care about B vs C heads. I have an 01 COBRA. The Mach 1 is about 0.1-0.2 quicker in the quarter, but the 01 IRS rides nicer. Tomato-tamatoe. I also had a 96 COBRA and there wasn't much difference.
J20M10R 2 months ago
All this talk about power to weight ratios, so I looked up the specs for a 2001 COBRA and a 2007 350Z. The 01 COBRA coupe/vert weighs 3430/3560 and makes 320hp/317 lb.-ft. The 07 Z coupe/vert (Grand Touring) weighs 3404/ 3602 and (Enthusiast) 3346/3580 @ 306 hp/268 lb. ft. So maybe someone can explain to me again how the Z is faster or better than a COBRA because it has a "Better power to weight ratio"??? Try comparing the 370Z to the Boss 5.0, who will win on a track?? Hmm, let me think.......
J20M10R 5 months ago
@J20M10R That's what I was trying to say at the top of the comment list. But no one seems to be listening. I have an 01 Cobra and had it commercially weighed. And my car actually came in at 3,325 pounds with full fluids including a full gas tank. But like I said before the driver of that Cobra either doesnt know how to race. Or that person is short shifting and not taking it up to 6,000 RPM. The 01 Cobra doesnt even begin to pull until 3,000 rpm.
MR01cobrasvt 4 months ago
Fuck mustangs its all about the Z baby...I just gotta 07
GenisisDaPrince 6 months ago
@GenisisDaPrince sorry to hear that
FlawlessVizionz08 5 months ago
mustangs are overated, someone should email ford and tell'em this isnt 1969
panoulis20 8 months ago
@panoulis20 so not overrated.. there is something to be said for the feeling of the older cars and the sounds od a V8.. and BTW i think the 12 year old technology held up well ;-) ... BTW my 99 cobra will run 13 flat ;-) stock.. i suppose its elevation
xmodrock 7 months ago
@xmodrock the 99 had several issues, that's why there was not a 2000 COBRA (excepting the COBRA-R). That being said, my 2001 COBRA Vert will run 13.7 all day with crappy bald street tires and and not so much as an air filter or cat-back. I tend to agree, 12 year old tech it is, but look where they are now. I'd like to see a stock 370Z take a 5.0 GT or a GT500. And, for what its worth, 13.3 out of a 350Z...that Z is most definitely not stock .
J20M10R 6 months ago
@J20M10R def not.. and the stang wasn't a cobra.. it was a mustang with a PI performance motor and cobra stickers
xmodrock 6 months ago
@J20M10R yea, um that is the stock drag times on an 07.... ps every car comparison especially fifth gear/top gear has put the 350z and mustang gt head to head at each corresponding year... even the prior 2006 model beat the 06gt in 1/4 and to 60mph, not to mention the track times were multiple seconds different where the mustang can't hang tight. the HR engine in the 07 kicks ass and when the gt 5.0 came out it still is getting its ass handed to it with a 3.8 V6!! 370z
Hondamchero 5 months ago
@Hondamchero With all do respect, the 5.0 GT is running 12.8's on factory rubber and 11.8's on drag radials. It dynos 368-378 RWHP bone stock. You tube 2011 GT 1/4 mile. I have driven the Infinity G37 coupe and, although it is impressive, it doesn't come close to the 2011 GT and only gets the 4.6 COBRA's at the launch. From a roll, like 30mph, the 350 isn't any faster than the COBRA. I just put 275/40/ZR17's on my COBRA and I am pretty sure I can do better than the stock 13.8 @102.5
J20M10R 5 months ago
@J20M10R Thats great. The 370z still beats the new gt's, just like they upgraded to the 5.0 so did nissan with the 370. If you want to bring radials into play you have to consider putting them on both cars for fair comparison which would boost both times on each car (so stupid argument). The g37 coupe is an entirely different car... thats like me saying that the crown vic and the mustang gt are the same car because they both sported the same v8 engine. oh and the f150.
Hondamchero 5 months ago
@Hondamchero
Gonna have to call you out on the 370z beats the new GT's. Don't know where you live but the new GT's are trappin Mid 12's to low 13's and whoopin M3 ass on the track. My 01 cobra ripped out 13.6's all day (STOCK EVERYTHING) 07 nismos ive seen do 13.1 to 13.6's (six years apart???). I would say 370z's are on par with 99-01 cobras(track and drag) and 03-04 mach1's (better drag but slower track times than nismo 370z's). 03-04 cobras and 05+ Gts kill any Z or G car PERIOD.
The2001cobra 5 months ago in playlist 350z
@J20M10R I actually really like ford in the recent years and what they have accomplished in their new direction. The mustang is a well sold vehicle that people are attracted to. Its a fun car with some good power, it is the everyday person's sports car. its great for guys with families and people that still want practicality. The fact is however that the 350 and 370z are bred for track and enthusiast use at an affordable price. It is race bred and will kill any mustang on any racetrack
Hondamchero 5 months ago
@J20M10R they are better in corners, have better power to weight/ torque to weight figures, better geared for race use and a better center of gravity/ lower stance. When it comes to strict performance they are awesome cars and thats why they are loved.. it will never however replace the mustang as the standard sports car because they seat two/they are not comfortable daily drivers, there is no noise dampening, the suspension is stiff for racing and not perfect for every road. it comes to opinion
Hondamchero 5 months ago
@Hondamchero Like I said, I have driven a G37 coupe, which is basically a 370Z. Personally, I thought it felt pretty much the same as my COBRA except the G37 launched noticeably harder. Nissan definitely has that suspension "Tweeked out." The ride height and firmness was also different. But, I switched out the factory treads on my COBRA for summer only YZ's with 275's in the rear and it makes a BIG difference. It is still worth noting that I am talking about an 11 yr old car, not the GT 5.0.
J20M10R 5 months ago
@Hondamchero For what it is worth, I also only spent $9800 on my current COBRA, which is exactly the heart of the issue and always was: That the Mustang represents the best performance "Bang-for-the-buck." It is also worth noting that in 2001, the record for the most lateral G's of any production car belonged to a mustang COBRA. They handle far better than you give them credit for. I would agree that it is a matter of opinion. Hey, at least your not comparing it to a Jeep!
J20M10R 5 months ago
13.3 good shit
Valdemar350z 8 months ago
350Z'S ARE THE SHIZNIT!!!
TommygunnZ33 8 months ago
the cobra driver obviously couldn't drive
lax1234567889 9 months ago
Mustangs are complete pieces of shit, they may have alot of horsepower, but the way their built, do you ever wonder why you get one so cheap?
Syricals 10 months ago
@Syricals ROFL. That is all.
Synyster06Gates 9 months ago
@Syricals 36 grand is cheap? lol
steelstrings1312 9 months ago
And sorry for the weird sentences my phone keeps auto correcting words like it turns dyno into dump... anyways to prove my point I raced a supercharges g35 making 450 at the wheels(supposedly) . I raped the shit out of it. Why you ask? Shitty driver , end of story. And you didn't beat an SS on the interstate nice lie. You should have said at a light, that's more believable, those camaros have great top end and even beat me if we are already moving. What you raced is a v6 with the RS package
pyrodelta 10 months ago
Not hating just look itbl the facts on the post below. I had a 2007 G35 with the hr motor and my gf has a 2007 350z. My GT rapes them both even before my bolt one. Nice try, its crappy driver in video, that simple
pyrodelta 10 months ago
@pyrodelta What year is your GT? Unless it's a 2011 with the 5.0 Coyote, you're full of shit. A 2007-08 350z with the HR engine is a low to mid 13-second car bone stock. They usually trap from 104-107mph in the 1/4 mile, which is on par with or faster than a 2005-10 GT. You must've run into some shitty drivers if you're walking away in your GT.. unless it's a 2011.
hartsickdisciple 9 months ago
350z suck balls all you fan boys need to sit down and look it the facts. 350 hp is rated 315 at the flywheel, the actual number it outs down at the wheels on a dyno is a measly 235 hp. Wow gay, look it up if u don't believe me. My stock GT is rated at 315/325 and on dump stock it put 280/295 with few minor bolt ons + tune it went 310/325. So get a dam life, that z would never beat a bolt on cobra unless it was a horrible driver or the Z has heavy mods. I EAT Zs for breakfast.
pyrodelta 10 months ago
@pyrodelta I could buy a Z and with the amount i would save I could turbo charge it and then have a car that would lick your cobra on the drag strip... or I could just take my Z and then have a car that would eat your modded cobra around a track STOCK.. oh right I forgot that most of you pricks only drive a straight line. Live one 1/4 at a time right bud? yea your hardcore. PS honestly the only mustang that has even tied up with the Z on power to weight is the new 5.0L coyote, against a 3.8 V6..
Hondamchero 5 months ago
@Hondamchero
Again mustangs are cheaper and are alot more mod freindly WHY DO YOU THINK EVERYONE BUYS THEM you can make the car into whatever you want. A fr500 gt4 track car to a 2500+hp 5 sec drag car. Z's are fine for what they are. Modding mustang camaros anyday for anytype of racing over any asian european car. Ever look at the power to weight ratio on 99-01 same , 05-10 gt's better,03-04 cobras alot better, 11+gt's way better, 07+gt500 killin them.
The2001cobra 5 months ago
@Hondamchero
Any turbo mustang will outperform any turboed Z with relative psi. Your z's are a poor mans vette/viper fine for what it is but its hindered by the manufacturer's ideas behind the car. Ford and Chevy give the consumer what they want a rwd car with a small block v-8 that doesn't weigh 5K. With this combination GM and Ford can build some fancy models but its the base v-8 versions the enthusiast want with their performance parts and aftermarket performance parts.
The2001cobra 5 months ago
@Hondamchero
The skies the limit even with the lower end 2v 4.6L they used.You've got modded 4.6L 2v motors that are 20+ years old with a 30+year old chassis out performing any modded Zor anyother Jap or European car.Ford and GM know how to make a sports/pony car less is better as long as the package fits.You've never been to a track event have you cobra's (svt and shelby) are great track cars (STOCK).Gt'sOk STOCK the new GTs and BOSSES are INSANE track cars Z06/M3/GT2-3 911 insane. With a LSA
The2001cobra 5 months ago
@Hondamchero
I understand everyone has preferences. But please Keep stupid comments like "I could just take my Z and then have a car that would eat a modded cobra" out of your debats. It really does make you ignorant. All us pricks always outnumber you Asian guys at road courses more mustang and camaros than anything only thing close in quantity is the miata. Please keep your little six's ill take my displacement so I can do as I please Nitrous/SC/Turbo or HIGH NA something small motors cant
The2001cobra 5 months ago
@The2001cobra I have to agree with you on many points. Isn't the 370Z NISMO like $40G's? You could buy a nice GT5.0 for that, maybe even a Boss, and have 412-440hp vs 350. So I fail to see how you could "Save" money on a Z and make some kind of ridiculous Turbo comparison. For what it is worth, about $6k will buy you a 12psi compressor for the GT5.0 and nets about 680 rwhp. Turbo 370Z Vs a blown gt5.0: I wouldn't bet too much money on the Z car unless you have money to loose.
J20M10R 5 months ago
Everyone keeps arguing lol its all bout da drivers... -__-
xXchaosXx703 10 months ago
@xXchaosXx703 exacly
mikodelick 7 months ago
i had a 96 cobra that was pretty much stock and i killed 350zs, the guy in the cobra must be a shit driver..
rutz08 11 months ago
@rutz08 omfg.. No, you didn't. Either those people couldn't drive, or your car wasn't stock. 03-06 350z's run from a 13.8 to 14.1 1/4 mile at 99 to 102mph, and 07-08's run 13.2 to 13.6 at 104-108mph. You're not "killing" that with a stock 96 Cobra. Sorry man.. numbers are numbers. Power to weight ratio and gearing doesn't lie.
hartsickdisciple 9 months ago
@hartsickdisciple power to weight, well the cobra has more power and less weight so it wins there, and the 350z's gearing is way to high, thats what kills those cars and makes them slow, my friend has one, I've driven it and ridden in it many times and it is much slower than my cobra, the cobra I had was pretty much stock, not completely stock, I had 3.73 gears in it, full off road exhaust, air intake, MSD ignition and thats it, which is why I say pretty much stock
rutz08 9 months ago
@rutz08 A 2007-08 350z has more power than a 96 Cobra (SAE 2007+ 306hp is roughly equal to 315hp by the 1996 SAE standard). According to MSNautos, a 96 Cobra weighs 3393lbs. An 07-08 350z coupe is between 3200 and 3400. A 350z 6-speed has a 3.54 final drive, with a 6-speed close ratio trans. That gives the average 07-08 350z a bit of an edge on a 96 Cobra. You do realize that stock 07-08's have run 13.1-13.2's in the 1/4 mile, right? If that's "slow," than a 96 or 01 Cobra is slow too.
hartsickdisciple 9 months ago
@hartsickdisciple this was an 03 350z, not an 07 when they got the hp boost, i raced him 3 times and every time there was not a chance, im not saying 350s are bad cars or that cobras are good cars im just saying what happened, i didnt know that the 350 had such an aggressive gearing, just doesnt feel that way when you drive it, may be the torque difference too
rutz08 9 months ago
@rutz08 Even an 03-05 350z with the 287hp/274tq VQ35DE is a total driver's race vs. a 96 Cobra. Both cars run 0-60 in 5.3 to 5.6 seconds, and 1/4 mile in 13.8 to 14.1. If you won decisively, you either raced a crappy driver who didn't know how to shift and keep his car in the power band, you had some mods, you're driving a factory freak, or there was something wrong with the other car. A DE 350z is a dead match for a 96 Cobra in a straight line.
hartsickdisciple 9 months ago
WOW YES a 370 out handles an M3 are you serious, a fuckin 350 out handles an m3...and no 2011 mustang is going to go at a fucking Z on a circuit course you are high as fuck.
iaz300 11 months ago
@iaz300 they did a test at laguna seca with the same driver for all cars and the 2011 mustang boss 302 had a faster track speed then the Audi R8 let alone a Z
cbeck611 11 months ago
@iaz300 It's true, look up lighting laps on car an driver;) I don't have a dog in that fight, but I can beat them all in a straight line;)
XfireBlake 11 months ago
@iaz300 Or maybe you are just dumb. Mustang Gt will be right next to a 370z.... lord help you if there are reasonable straights... A.k.a long circuit courses... Boss.... will have the nismo seeing tail lights all day.
Texarmageddon 10 months ago
@iaz300 You are one dumb mother fucker. Why don't you do research before posting your dumb ass claims.
Synyster06Gates 9 months ago
@iaz300
Boss 302?
Fastback91 8 months ago
@iaz300 hahaha watch the reviews big boy :D
ralatorre9 8 months ago
If that was a cobra with the super charger, it should kill any Stock Z. That said I heard a lot of spinning form a poor driver/tires. I run 12.2 @ 115 in my SRT6 crossfire with regular street tires, so probably driver;)
XfireBlake 1 year ago
Anybody want to find times look up 1/4 mile times and it has almost every car. I must mention it doenst show the HR model it does show the new 370z doing 13.3. I thought flodhi1 was another kid trying to hype his car up. My mistake I never heard of that edition.
JBWHITEGT 1 year ago
@JBWHITEGT yup found the times edmund has this 2008 HR motor stock running a 13.7 @ 103 where these other fan boys get a 13.1 @ 109 which by the way is a 6mph increase which at this weight means about an 80hp gain who knows. sounds like these 350Z fanboys got caught up on their own B.S nissan Fails
santiagomel00 1 year ago
@santiagomel00 Yo fucking bitch LOOK AT THE VIDEOS AND TIME SLIPS
flodhi1 1 year ago
@flodhi1 so what your vids and time slips mean what your car is quick i dont see anything else do we know your car is stock? no we dont, i could say my cobra is stock, it has the stock motor, just intake and exhaust yet im trapping 115mph on streets and 118 on slicks. it has the stock supercharger stock 3.65"pulley making stock boost. you aint got to get all dumb about it bro. but props on your car, i dont like nissan thats all. they are cute lil cars to me.
santiagomel00 1 year ago
@santiagomel00 Bro you got NO videos of racing ANY legit cars you're like racing Bull shit cars. Look at my videos where im racing a modded Mustang GT I got my front hood wide open NO MODS. Listen to every video got NO exhaust no intakes none of that BS. Even if kids got nitrous you can hear it. Tell me why there are SEVERAL HRs running my time? What were all lying now? go to my350z theres at least 5 HR Zs running low low 13s
flodhi1 1 year ago
@flodhi1 doesnt mean they are stock. and i dont race my car on the streets thats why dont post up vids of me racing cars. and im sure an s2000 would give you a good run so would a B18 hatch. track wont open till march. and i dont drive my car too often, not my daily driver anymore. i need a personal gas station for that car..either way your z is quick i've driven the DE motors felt quick up top but not really a neck breaker
santiagomel00 1 year ago
@santiagomel00 I think you might have missed the street race I had with a modded s2000. Just take a look at the video and the DE 350z is rubbish to me. I personally think they are slow as fuck/old looking.
flodhi1 1 year ago
@santiagomel00 people drive or race DE 350zs ( which came out in 01) and start judgin the HR Zs ( 2007+) or V-HR Zs (370zs) they're totally different. The 370z and HR Z are pretty much the same thing 0-110 mph Around 120ish the 370z shines out on the hr z and the DE Z is not even in the pic. I've raced DE Zs and G35s literally pulled carsssssssssss on them. Even pulled a car length on a G37 type S. So trust me when ppl tell me how slow the z is they get a reality check in the street race.
flodhi1 1 year ago
@flodhi1 I never can tell the years apart as they all fall back so quickly;)
XfireBlake 1 year ago
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XfireBlake 1 year ago
@XfireBlake too bad chrysler crossfires are gay as fuck!
rutz08 11 months ago
@rutz08 I agree!!! It rapes every "manly" car it finds! LOL I went to the track last night and even with my street tires spinning I hit 7.9's @92 mph. Then on the way home I embarassed a new Camaro SS on the interstate. It was a good night:P
XfireBlake 11 months ago
Ok my mistake. HR model 350z is not your ordinary 350z like I have raced. I did research and found its a reworked 3.5l motor. I never raced one but would welcome the challenge. Like I said before though I raced a 350z I would guess a 2005 model with twin turboes on low boost and we were toe to toe. I run 13.0 at 106 so it would be impressive to see an HR model with twin turboes.
JBWHITEGT 1 year ago
This is to flodhi1. Yeah go tell your failytails to your little brother your lying ass. No fucking stock 350z runs 13.1. You just proved your a busta telling tall tails like disney. Fool the world racing community laughs at liars like u. 13.1 stock lmao. What u got mickey thompsons and launching at 8000 grand. Lol lying ass...
JBWHITEGT 1 year ago
350 s are not built for the strip, mustangs are. but 350z still hold there own considering they only have a 3.5 v6.....one day i hope they put a high revving v8 in the Z car...that would be sick.
dragsteralf 1 year ago
i play with 350z's so that couldn't drive or the z was far from stock
03TorchRedMach1 1 year ago
Oh and I recall racing a twin turboed 350z on low boost because his motor wasn't built yet and that was the only 350z that did stay with me toe to toe. We did like a 40 roll to 110 and we were toe to toe the whole way.
JBWHITEGT 1 year ago
Yeah well my moms got the 370z and my 08 gt would dust it. I ve raced a couple of guys with the 370 and its quick and I can attest to that but it has never beat my gt, which only has a sct tuners and 410 gears. I would eat a 370z for a snack at low speed but I high speeds it would be on my tail because my car no longer has top end because of my gears. Check my videos out the cobras I raced smoked me and my car will do 13.0 in the 1/4 mile
JBWHITEGT 1 year ago
@JBWHITEGT Dude I run 13.1@108 mph stock lol what are you going to dust a 370z? LMAO seriously
flodhi1 1 year ago
this shit makes me laugh.. whenever a car looses everyones like "oh dude can't drive" seriously, shut the hell up, the 350z just won
mrdjeuro 1 year ago
日本車は吸う
ford4point0 1 year ago
no way a 350z coulkd pull a 13.1, not even the newer more powerful 370z could do those times.
eric78852 1 year ago
@eric78852 yeah there has actually been proof of that. and car and driver got 13.1 for the auto 370z btw
bp240 1 year ago
jajajajaja 13.3 you are a dream believer, but I still like the video, good cam that's the only thing is real or maybe not who knows
chumikiribacara 1 year ago
ummm that's called RAPE!!!!!
MrJdm350z 1 year ago
no 350z stock will run 13.1!!! all of u saying this are full of shit, lol i like 350z;s dont get me wrong but yea ive driven a few and my buddie has one and after driving my roush 440a the 350z's feel like a damn turtle that may run high 13's mayyyybe
afgandominator 1 year ago 2
@afgandominator c'mon bro your comparing a 440A to a 350z well yeah that 350 is gonna feel like a turtle. and i havent seen any 350z run better than a 13.5 out here. i seen 370 run 14.0 and as fast as a 13.3 with mods. this track is unforgiving. that 440A is a beast, you got 140 lbs of torque over a 350 and 100 hp more weighing about the same. its like me a kill 370z all day in 01 cobra. even turbo 350z
santiagomel00 1 year ago
@santiagomel00 I wasnt comparing the 350z to my Roush I was just saying that there is no way a stock 350z will run a 13.1, .... my Roush runs low low 12's and the 350 feels like a turtle after driving my Roush which is why i say theres noway they run a 13.1stock like some jabronie said on here or else it would feel sum what comparable to my stang running 13.1 but noway they are heavy and there trannys suck ass so i here but they r beautiful cars though for sure, my neighbor has a turbo z...quick
afgandominator 1 year ago
the chick at the end was smok'n hot
lynyrdschuyler 1 year ago
@lynyrdschuyler hell yeah, the one on the right.
madtownmadman 1 year ago
I'm not going to be an ass about it like some of the people here.. but it's a fact that 07-08 350z's have run as low as a 13.1 stock in the 1/4 mile. Plenty of 13.2's and 13.3's out there as well. The HR engine has a better powerband than the DE engine, as well as more peak HP. When you take into account the SAE power rating change that took effect for the 07's, they really have between 20 and 30hp more than the 03-06 cars. Also 7500 RPM redline lets you finish 1/4 mile in 3rd gear w/6mt.
hartsickdisciple 1 year ago
Bullshit i just sold an all stock2002 s2000 and i raced an06 350z and beat it from start to 100 mph by a car legth.The guy was an excellent driver and was surprised but neither his car or my s2000 were 13.3 not even in our dreams.For you doubters out there the 350 was a six speed Ialso beat a 2010 tiptronic g37 2 door and i has a girl in the car.That was actually slower than the 06 350z .
camirocz 1 year ago
@camirocz
you do realize the 06 is the slowest model year on record right (check my350z fastest times for proof)? You also realize the Z you raced was not an HR, only the 07-08's had the revised engine, and I'm also willing to bet it was probably an auto Z- just a guess though
jmatt145 1 year ago
@jmatt145 whatever slowest or not they dont run low 13s.
camirocz 1 year ago
@camirocz That's because the 06 350Z is NOT an hr model like this 07 car. Duh.
ambientflier 1 year ago
nice race. looks about right. those n/a cobras are pure garbage. those HR 350z's are suprizing as hell
Dart00Z 1 year ago
@Dart00Z Yeah well wake up cause they dont run no 13.30s maybe in people s dreams.
camirocz 1 year ago
@camirocz The 07-08 Z's have the more powerful HR motor. Low 13's are pretty common stock, with good driving. The Z in this video ran 13.1's pretty consistently and trapped as high as 109 stock. The only thing that kept it from running a high 12 stock is the factory slave cylinder, which inhibited me from making really hard launches. My old 2004 Z, which has the DE motor, ran a 13.6 stock and only trapped a 103 best.
matt1180 1 year ago
@matt1180 what you mean HR motor??
al3id 1 year ago
@al3id In 2007 Nissan used a new motor, which they named the HR, which is different from the DE motor from the previous year. This engine uses dual intakes, revs higher, has higher compression and different internals, and making noticably more hp than the DE. Nissan rated them conservatively at 306 SAE, but rwhp figures have been from 270 to 290 stock, which with driveline loss comes out closer to 320 hp. The result was a noticably faster and more powerful 350Z.
matt1180 1 year ago
@matt1180 dude 20-30 hp aint gonna give you a 6mph gain it takes close to 80 hp to give you those gains especially on a car that weighs 3400lbs. thats how i know this 350 is modded.
santiagomel00 1 year ago
@santiagomel00 Dude I have a stock HR Z and I'm running the same times as Matt so please quit hating. I got videos and time slips to prove it.
flodhi1 1 year ago
@flodhi1 ? who is hating? im stating the obvious facts. but good for you, dont know who matt is but ok have fun
santiagomel00 1 year ago
@santiagomel00 umm thats the guy that ran the Z in this video?
flodhi1 1 year ago
@Dart00Z not really those n/a cobras are easier to make an 11' sec car with bolt ons that that piece of shit jap crap 350. put 4.30 gears and full bolts on and a tune with launch control and a set of stickies. your full bolt on 350 wont stand a chance
santiagomel00 1 year ago
Fuck the race, did you see those 2 hotties at the end?
And my Bullshit flag is up as well. I own a 2003 Mach 1 (Same engine as a 2001 Cobra) and I raced a 350z. Both of us had full exhaust, and cold air. He had some other bolt ons (That I really didn't care about) and I have 4.10 gears. I didn't even take my TC Off. By the time I hit 3rd, I was gone. Needless to say he was quite pissed.
veritech102 1 year ago
@veritech102 You raced a 350Z with the new engine? How do you know that? Also gears make a huge difference.
ambientflier 1 year ago
@ambientflier Uhm I don't recall my original comment but judging by your comment I'm guessing it was along the lines of how a stock 350z couldn't beat a 2001 Cobra. I raced a 350Z (Don't know what year) against my 2003 Mach1. The 2001 Cobra had the same motor as the 2003 Mach1, with the exception of a different cam. When I raced the 350Z, who claimed to have full exhaust, I beat him by the time I hit 3rd. Now I got a '04 Terminator Cobra, and no-one is beating me. :)
veritech102 1 year ago
All u morons think that the hr motors can't get 13.3? Haha retards well they do 07 and 08 350z are differ from the old one and I have a 07 and I ran 13.5 was my best time and ya I have seen the z run 13.3 before running stock
whiteazn2 1 year ago
im not a fan of the mustang but that 350z aint stock no fucking way a bolt on 01 cobra will smoke a bone stock 350z
bigboy14100 1 year ago
@bigboy14100 w u actley sead something good about the mustang and your right a 01 cobra with bolt ons are bad as shit
TheDylan222222 1 year ago
if you look the 2004 350z runs 13.5 stock thats nothing a good CAI cant fix to get 13.3....
dbrownent 1 year ago
you sir are a fucking liar about that z i have an 01 cobra mine is stock other than a 70 mm throttle body injectors an an intake an my friend has the exact same z as on this video an by the time i cross the 1/8 or 1/4 finish line hes so far behind me its not funny an his has the same upgrades as me for his motor so either your a liar or the guy in the cobra deserves to be shot
rolodix 1 year ago
@rolodix dude i wen my 01 ss had bolt ons like a 3200 stall underdrive pulley slp air lid 373 gear 105mm throttlebody and a 102 mm fast intake i was beating tt 350zs i swear to god bro wen my ca r was all factory i raced a dodge stealth tt and beat that iv only been beat ny one 4 banger and that was a stage3 srt-4 neon with a 150shot lol
bigboy14100 1 year ago
@rolodix So your low 13's car pulls very hard on another low-mid 13's car even by 8th mile? Yeah, I call bs on that. Either your friend isn't a good driver or his car isn't an 07.
ambientflier 1 year ago
Dude in the Stang is a crappy driver. I like Nissans and own one but they have a real hard time beating a Mustang.
theedevious1 1 year ago
That 350Z was NOT stock. No stock 350Z will run 13.3 in the 1/4.
14.3, yes. 13.3, no.
Get real.
SlartyFartBlast 1 year ago
@SlartyFartBlast
my 04 gt runs a 14.5 and i spank the 350z by at least a car length or more.
RaNdY04gt 1 year ago
@SlartyFartBlast Yes a stock 2007 or 2008 350z will run 13.3 stock, they have the HR motors, alot faster then the older models. Its just that alot of people dont know that and talk shet with out knowing. For example, YOU
jc15151 1 year ago
@SlartyFartBlast 07-08 350z are VQ35HR's which has 306bhp ..stock u can squeeze a 13.1 out of them if u know how too shift
hoodyman88 1 year ago
@SlartyFartBlast Are you serious kid? 07-08's run low 13's all day. Go research a bit before you try to act smart.
LilJohn148 1 year ago
@SlartyFartBlast I guess you should go to the Z forums and tell that to the countless people that ran in the low 13's with the HR motor and no mods, loser.
ambientflier 1 year ago
Haha your just hating because a imported V6 can whoop your dream car. Get over it dude.f
MostNotori0us 1 year ago
hard to believe that the 350 was stock. That mustang was prolly a v6 you dumb fucks!
sn95cruiser 2 years ago
yup that sounded like a v6 u dumb fuck..
VDubGLI 1 year ago
@sn95cruiser if that was a v6 stang then he has the BEST sounding v6 in the world! btw get your hearing check asap!
braddfordy 1 year ago
dude in mustang cant drive
mlez28 2 years ago 8
any N/A american v6 i dont think it would hang with the 07z ive raced a "high output" 3.5 dodge charger and smoked him with my friend in the car
07350zhr 2 years ago
@07350zhr the 2011 v6 stang
santiagomel00 1 year ago