ok, the assholes that say that it is better for a kid to be in a opposite sex family never seem to be in the line to get a kid from the adoption agencies.. they never step up and give a home to these children.. hypocrites all
My partner and I are dads to 2 teens. I can assure you all that we are more careful with the topic of sexuality than our parents ever were and are more open to conversation regarding it. Our kids are terrific and have grown to accept us as dad- units who care deeply for their well-being, success and humanity. Both are working to overcome great turmoil and loss and I have every confidence that they will succeed. We believe in them. That's what really matters. Everything else is minor.
The Bible says to honor your mother and father. It does not say honor your father and father or mother and mother. God is the creator of all things natural and homosexuality is not natural.
@AceofDiamonds0 I never said that I am a religious person. I am not a religious person. I have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ. There is a difference between the two. Clearly you are a ignorant fool.Two fags rearing a child is like the blind leading the blind.
sure you believe in god and follow jesus christ but your not religious or anything. you dont go to church but you use god to condemn behavour you dislike.
yes, a child being along with no parents being bounced from foster home to foster home is a better situation than the child being adopted by a loving couple, thats homosexual.
@AceofDiamonds0 Again you are putting words in my mouth. I did not say that I do not attend church. I do as part of my relationship with God through Jesus Christ. Also, I do not use God to condemn people. I use God to encourage and bring self conviction to people. You did say something I do believe. A child being along with no parents being bounced from foster home to foster home is a MUCH better situation than the child being adopted by a couple, thats homosexual because homosexuality is evil.
so you believe in jesus and god, go to church and think homosexuality is evil. but youre not religious?
you want homosexuals to have a sense of self conviction based on your personal morals, or gods, isnt that called fascism? trying to push your idea or right and wrong on other people.
so you would deny orphaned children; 3 square meals a day, a warm home, a good education, and the love of 2 parents all because those parents happen to be homosexual? youre the evil one.
@AceofDiamonds0 Children need the influence of both a male and female role model. A mother and a father. With is a child suppose to do on Father's Day if he has two dykes? Also, there is no such thing as a " loving homosexual couple" because homosexuality is sinful. Furthermore, it is not my ideas of morals, it is God's morals. He said let a man and a women cleave to each other not fags and dykes cleave to each other.
Congrats on winning Douche Bag of the year award. So you are saying that your imaginary friend says that it is better for a child to be raised in a home where the father abuses them and the mother does drugs? Intead of having two parents of the same gender who will raise them to be decent people? And just so you knock fucktard. The child would have male or female influences in their lives Aunts, Uncles, Grandparents, Teachers, Sports coaches, friends parents
1.the choice isnt between a mother and a father or a gay couple (father/father) or (mother/mother). its a choice between two gay parents and no parents. few straight couples adopt, because they can just make there own.
2. thats a crap argument. its like saying jewish families shouldnt have kids, because then what would they do on easter.
3. same point, your saying people should drop whatever they believe in and follow someone elses (gods) morals. because as long as they are not bowing to gods whim they are not moral. youre right you do not have your own morals you just latch on to whatever god thinks is right.
You represent the kind of person who should ahev their sexual organs removed by surgury and then burned so you can never reproduce. I have friends raised by gay couples and what to hear a secret? They are much better off than my friends whose parents are stright most of which argue and constintly getting devorices.
I LOVE it when people try to use "If their parents are gay, then their kid will be gay." That's the funniest thing anyone can ever say to me because my parents are straight (hence why they're married, duh) and yet, somehow, I'm gay!
I can't believe that some people would rather have straight, abusive couples adopt children than gay, loving and cherishing couples to adopt children.
I know many straight "parents" that should have their privates sewn up, and many gay couples that have tons of love to give to a child. (..okay, that came out wrong...)
@vinnypop "Kids can be denied a mom and dad." People tend to forget the argument isn't whether these kids would have either straight parents or gay parents, but whether these kids would have parents or NO parents at all. I don't see opponents of gay adoption rushing out to adopt those children who are lacking mothers and fathers. So basically, their point is that it's better to let a child rot unloved and neglected in an orphanage than let them have parents.
When did giving civil union rights to gays which I agree come to the point that now they expect to be able to adopt. I may be able to accept lesbians adopting as they are natural mothers suffering during childbirth but it must NEVER be allowed for to gay men to adopt a child, women have the mother urge phsyically in them men dontttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
I'm against gay couples adopting kids not because they will not be good parents but because this society is full of prejudices and it will be hard for a child to be finger pointed by other kids and adults, and even been descriminated by school or other groups. I think gay couples have to wait a bit more till society get more comfortable about this type of relation, is all about time ;)
@eoublue that's a noble reason, but how will society adapt without gays starting to adopt? Change doesn't happen in vacuum. The best way people will start seeing gay couples as normal is when they start showing up to PTA meetings and being active in the community with their kids.
this is what i dont get...people are agianst homosexual adoptions because of all the "bad" things it could do to the child. but what about all the good adopting a child can do?
we're not talking about homosexuals stealing children from loving families. the "real" parents abandoned their children at the orphanages. are you saying no loving parents is better than loving homosexual parents?
Politicians against same-sex adoption are DICKS. Seriously, they are a bunch of fucking bastards who just say shit so that gay couples can't have the same right as straights, to tell the truth, none of us is more superior or inferior to the other. Homosexuals deserve exact same right as heterosexuals, human rights don't count on just straights, why can't some people get that?
Ok heres a little fact, if you are raised by a gay couples and that would make you gay, then wouldn't two hetero parents make you straight? and since most ppl on the planet are straight then why are there gay ppl? wouldn't they be gay if they are raised by gay ppl? And wouldn't kids be straight if they were raised by straigh ppl? answer: HELL NO YOU IDIOT
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ok, look. im not homophobic, i have gay friends but i think gay ppl shud definetely NOT be allowed to adopt. We're not talking about rights, we're talking about influencing another persons life and reducing the human race significantly. It would be a bad influence cos the kids will think gay= normal and turn gay themselves. if u say that wudnt happen ur just kidding urself. There r a lot of ppl whos parents have come out of the closet and they have followed right after them.
@xanderthevampire Gay people should have equal rights to a man and woman couple. Why? Because it's not about what you love. It's about who you love. I mean the same love between a man and a woman is just the same between a man and a man or a woman and a woman. Also, you claim that gay parents have gay children? You couldnt be more wrong. Gay people are born gay, you can't turn gay or be made gay. Homosexually should be accepted. Well actually LOVE should be accepted. 'Cause that's all it is. :)
what an idealistic thought- "u cant turn gay" WRONG! I actually know a couple of people who were totally straight, then their parents came out of the closet and they started runnin around proclaiming themselves to be gay. this was due to wanting to be like their parents. there is no difference between this and someone adopted by gay people, except that it is even more likely to happen if ther adopted by a gay cuple. i dnt mind if sum1s gay but to turn gay just because ur parent is- thats wrong.
This is flawed logic. You are basically saying that gay people come from other gay people. Or that an introduction of gay people to children will "turn" them gay. This is not true. Both my and my partner's parents are straight. Neither of us had any gay people around us growing up and we we're both raised to believe that gay wasn't "normal". However, we both grew up to be gay adults so how do you explain that? You can't!
u idiot! did I say that ALL gay people came from gay environments? I did NOT! I do not disagree with the fact that gay people can come from a completely straight environment. what i am saying is that sometimes people who have gay parents turn gay themselves in order to emulate their parents. I don't have a problem with gay people, i have a problem with people being gay for the wrong reasons and gay adoption, I believe, would only make this happen more.
how can you be gay for the wrong reasons? seriously. you need to do some research on homosexuality or dont even post comments like what your saying if you dont even know what you are saying.
haha. you seem to have the uncontrollable urge to ignore the truth. I know a family in Scotland with 5 kids- 2 boys and 3 girls (all straight). the mother came out of the closet n said she was gay and a couple of weeks later every one of her daughters had turned lesbian. (the boys n father r still straight) So stop talking rubbish. I have seen first hand that people can and do turn gay and when they do it can happen in this fashion. they're trying to emulate their parents. (or ADOPTIVE parents)
Ok im not ignoring the truth. Yes that may well be a true story but what is wrong with being gay anyway? what im trying to say is who cares if someone is gay or not they should have the same adoption rights as a man and woman couple.
@xanderthevampire - LOL let's say if gay parents turn their children gay - what's wrong with that? but the point is that won't likely to happen! I can tell you what it likes to be a gay man and it's not a choice! you prick!
@xanderthevampire - LOL let's say if gay parents turn their children gay - what's wrong with that? but the point is that won't likely to happen! I can tell you what it likes to be a gay man and it's not a choice! you prick!
@xanderthevampire - LOL let's say if gay parents turn their children gay - what's wrong with that? but the point is that won't likely to happen! I can tell you what it likes to be a gay man and it's not a choice! you prick!
So what if gay adoption created a few more gay kids (it doesn't, homosexuality doesn't work like that). You see homosexuality as the greatest scurge on the planet, however, in the coming decades, with overpopulation, peak-oil and food and energy prises due to sky-rocket, humanity will need less humans reproducing. Period.
The gays, unwittingly, will literally be your savior. Not some magical Harry Potter bearded dude from some magical land where all the animals can talk.
@xanderthevampire Hey Xander, try picking up a book and doing some research. People don't "turn gay" because of gay parents. Parents don't cause a child's sexual orientation. If that were turn then the majority of gay people would be straight because they were raised by their straight parents. Being gay is a trait someone is born with like left handedness. If you were adopted by left handed parents it would not make you grow up to be left handed.
Yeah cause, there is absolutely no way that a straight family could possible raise a gay child. If you REALLY had gay friends you would know that it wasn't a choice and that sexual orientation is concrete. You're wrong and you know that you're wrong. Or else you wouldn't be starting a comment... look I'm not a homophobe. The same way a person starts a racist joke with, look I'm not a racist and I have a TON of black friends. Get real, real fast.
@xanderthevampire okay - let me say something with a different word - It would be a bad influence cos the kids will think straight= normal and would be straight themselves.
You're a loser! Lots of straight parents have gay son or lesbian daughter! Guess what, I'm gay with straight parents!!!
@xanderthevampire People don't become gay by influence, as people obviously do not become straight by influence. How do you explain that people "went gay" in the first place, when their parents and the vast majority around them are straight? It's not like the gay life was somehow cooler or better than straight life. There's nothing that would "pull people in" like in the drug scene or such. Nobody's pressuring you into being gay - the opposite, in fact.
@xanderthevampire - that was really silly what you said. Many studies have shown that sexual orientation is more likely to be a genetic/biological or hormone induced thing than environmental. Besides. The Human population is exploding and killing the earth. It definitely wouldnt hurt to have more gay people
@xanderthevampire I love how every person about to deny homosexuals their basic human rights starts their argument with "I'm not homophobic, I have gay friends". Having gay friends doesn't prevent you from being homophobic.
@xanderthevampire a peson does not become gay through a socilisation proceses, this is clearly evident as many gay people were raised by straight parents. doing mri scans on gay males has revieled that the stucture of the hypothalamus nuclei responsibe for regulateing sexual behaviours is a different size to those of straight males, this is a strong indicator that sexual preference must be at least partially affected by genetics ipso facto you cannot socialise a childs sexual preference.
@xanderthevampire A lot of children who have been raised by gay people did NOT turn out to be gay. And what is wrong with thinking "gay = normal" ? Are gays abnormal? No, they are not. They are people like you and i with different interests. I suppose children from gay homes are more likely to be gay because they will be given the *option* to be so, while children from straight parents will most likely be taught that gay = deviant / perverted behaviour, but that's how far it goes.
yes it is highly likily that children with homosexual parents will view homosexuality as "normal" and will respect peoples choices better.
but to say that all children raised by homosexuals will turn homosexual is just ingnorant, or to believe that it will have any effect on the production of future generations.
@xanderthevampire Ha!!!! You're an idiot. For one, I know tons of gay people who weren't raised by gay parents and gay parents who have adopted and their kids are straight. And, about reducing the human race, THAT'S GOOD!!! It NEEDS to be reduced! The earth is over populated by over almost 4 Million! It's been that way since the 1970s. People are born gay. Sorry bro, you can't really win.
@xanderthevampire yes, because if the parents are gay the child will be gay. just like how my parents are straight so now im straight... oh wait. no I'm not.
@xanderthevampire You have a right to an opinion. I dont agree that people who dont like what you have to say can just vote you down and have your comments hidden. YOUTUBE is a populist politically correct heap of shit not a democracy. This is virtual facism at its best when the "countryless" YOUTUBE makes up its own law.
The real issue hear is the lefty trend to champion loud minorities. Im a real green and social justice advocate not a national socialist
Congratulation gentleman, I Wish for the 3 of you a happy life, and hope you can find the strength and hold to it, when ever you are faced with bigotry
Evo, you're not God. Religion has nothing to do with it, but even if you believe in that, then if God didn't want gay people to have kids, he would have made them sterile. But gay people aren't sterile. They can conceive kids just as well as straight people. And they can adopt too. As for the kids, I have two dads. I think I'm a normal person. I'm happy. I went to college. I have a good job. My brothers and I are just regular people. What bad effect do you think having gay parents had on us?
Yes how dare they want to give a child a good loving home. That child should live in a system without any parents period! Thats so much better than two dads right? Maybe the bio mother should have just had an abortion? Anything than giving a child a good home with two parents who happen to be the same sex!
Better a child adopted as safe with 2 loving gay parents then abusive bio parents like a mother and father or going from home to home with abusive foster parents.
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Where are all these children that gays are going to adopt going to come from? Hundreds of thousands of babies and children have been stolen by child "protective" services from good families. Do gays care where their children / babies come from that they adopt?
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Thanks for 6 negatives...I really dont give a shit :) And i will never in my life support gay adoptions! You can go cry now and call me homophobic or delight me with another -6....
Love is what truly makes a family. Not there being one man, one wife and two children; but a sense of togetherness and unity. Love is what makes the world go round.
You got that right bjnboy..but u might wanna water that love a with money from time to time, coz to be realistic, money is what makes the world go round. aint that the old cliche...hehehe!
Do you know what happens to the half a million children in the foster system that are not adopted? Most go to jail, whether or not they have committed a crime, or they get killed.
I would know, I work with foster youth. Allowing gays to adopt will save the lives of countless children.
Dont try to convince me, regardless what you say i have my own opinion. I'm by far not conservative or homophobic, but i will NEVER support gay adoptions...I just cant.
well, to each his own then but all I am saying is letting gays adopt these kids would literally save lives. i work w/ foster kids. therefore u put straight adoptions above ppl's lives.
Like I said to each his own, I respect your opinion. Yes, foster children can decline a family for ANY reason they choose. For ex, 1 boy I worked w/ declined a family b/c he's a country boy and doesn't want to live in Brooklyn.
Well you have a point i must say...I still have my own views on that but its good sharing own opinions with somebody who is intelligent and respectful. Greetings!
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You asked why...Well from my view a family can only consist of a man, a woman and their kids. Like i said before i aint conservative but gay adoptions is something a wont support.
It was obviously intentional, and a fairly pointless qualifier by you anyway. I sincerely doubt you have much respect for any human life outside of your own.
I am sure plenty of people hate you enough to want to steal your children or garantee they have little to no protections, expecially when it comes to your partner/partent2. I at least have the respect to find uinversially supporting that absurd and heartless.
I can at least understand your argument against gay preference, but there are plent of situations where your view is all but abusive/harmful to children.
"you cant judge me"
Your throwing around enough of that for the both of us.
What you think isnt neccessarily always true. I dont want harm to any child, but gays shouldnt be allowed to adopt. Thats my opinion and i can express it wherever i want.
If you dont agree its allright, everyone has its own opinion.
The VAST majority of gay adoptions are children of relatives (aunts, uncles, grandparents, when the parents die) or are co-adoptions for one of the partners biological children. Stealing children away from relatives or simply keeping them in the same position with less rights and protections is hardly helping them ... even if you don't like the idea of gay parents.
I would be hard pressed to find a good argument against a couple ... expecially when they can usually adopt as single.
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Ok, i agree, there are special cases in which gay couples can actually help a child....I was thinking of gays who adopt random children, because they want kids. To that i cant and wont agree.
Ok. At least you agree with that. The anti-gay adoption laws really have NO wiggle room though, and pretty much serve only to interfere with these "special cases." I am not going to campaign for general adoption, but there are people whos job is to determine the best home for these children, and to throw everyone out of a group away instantly for something you don't agree with (and has not proven harmful to children) just puts children in worse homes (if any at all). My opinion though.
no you cant hide behind " its my opinion and i can express it"
no you fucking cant
if your opinion spreads hate against others and makes other peoples lives misserable just because you have an opinion then no you shouldnt be able to say your opinion
just like you cant go around saying blacks shouldnt marry
grow up
and realise that too object against something you need a reason and not the fact that your to much of a biggot to realise that 2 men can be amazing parents
Yes i fucking can, alright.. Since i dont live in North Korea i can express my views free...Being black isnt a sexual orientation, being gay is. I didnt say they shouldnt be allowed to marry, just they shouldnt have kids! I bet the majority of adopted kids would suffer from other's discrimination, bullying ect.. Their whole life would be tough only because of his parents.
people are all equal and for you to tell a gay couple there lesser people than a straight couple is idiotic , biggoted , ignorand and i bet in 5 years when gays have as much acceptance as blacks you will look back at yourself with shame
Nope, i dont think i will look back with shame, because i have nothing to be ashamed for. I have my views and i stay behind them. Gays who live in western countries can be glad that they have so mutch rights, in the Mid-East being gay is still considered a crime....and that wont change in 5 years.
but your still not understanding what makes gays lesser people it doesnt matter about what other countrys do you say gays should be glad no they fucking shouldnt gays shouldnt be treated any different im gay and 16 im from england so i do have the problem of not being able to marry or adopt but i havent come out yet and shit like this is the kind of stuff that makes me not come out fucking biggots that think were less of a person but why are we the isnt an answer
Gays should be treated equal, but not in THIS case! Maybe i'm too "old fashioned" but family for me consists of a man, a woman and their children, and that is - lets say, holy for me. I dont oppose if two gays want to live together, its their choice, but if we talk about adoption, there's a 3 person involved and that person can't decide whether or not it wants to live with same sex parents.
but your still not answering my question it sounds like what your saying is gays can do what they want exept have children ,do you understand what that means to millions of people your denying them a child you say gays should be treated equal equal means in all aspects not just some its like saying you can sit here but not there its stupid if a woman wants to adopt a child she can but when she says shes a lesbian she cant it shows descrimination based on nothing but hate
Yes i'm denying gays children, because i have moral concerns about this and i cant change that alright?! Its how i FEEL about that, i'm very sorry for not having a more solid argument, just like you can't change that you're gay, its how you feel, thats it.
And i'm also denying children to single parents who arent able to take care for them, if they're straight or gay it doesnt matter....
So i dont hate gays, i'm not fascist or something similar, and i'm also not christian.
THATS THE POINT "and im also denying children to single parents who arent able to take care for them" gay people can take care of them why cant you realize this speak to someone with gay dad / moms there allways normal happy people and more common than not they are very intelligent how can you deny children happyness the fact is in a couple of years adoption will be legalized everywhere so we wont even need to be arguing because some peoples opinions arnt as biggoted as yours
Well said Slamt08, if a same sex couple can provide a stable, loving family environment whats the problem, I am wondering if this person has saved and kids from state care.... IF U want to see stable children look up user name Depfox and view their blogs, they are two males raising two kids who are happy and healthy, these two love them and take care of their every need.
People need to wake up...this is 2009 not 1909..jeez..
Redrum, who are you to make that decision? I have two gay dads, and I certainly don't care that they are gay. Their sexual orientation has nothing to do with the kind of parents they are. And there's certainly no reason to discriminate against gay people when it comes to adoption. Gay men and lesbians are just as likely to be good parents as straight people. And their children turn out just as well adjusted as children of straight parents.
Redrum, I guess it is lucky. Where I live, gay adoption has been legal for a long time, 20-25 years, so it's strange for me to think that there are places where it's not legal yet.
Well, it maybe strange to you, you live in the USA and many things are different in your country. Where I live, nobody even thought about this 20-25 yrs ago, we were a socialist country and such issues were more or less off the table.
I even have a lexicon from the 80', where homosexuality is even considered a mentall disorder lol (not that i agree on that).
Redrum, that's true. Things are different in various places around the world. However, surely there must be gay and lesbian parents in Slovenia. Even if they can't officially adopt, I bet there are some who have created families. All lesbians need is someone willing to donate sperm, and if they can't have access to sperm banks in your country (not sure), male friends might be willing to provide some. That's how lesbians had babies in the U.S. in the 70s, before they had equal laws.
I think they should ban adoption and co-parenty for people from Slovenia, even if the child is related. I heard there sinful lifestyle is dirty and harmful to children. And I of course mean that in the best way possible (and I am sick of people like you getting angry at MY disagreement).
Its called sarcasm (well ... mostly). I, however, don't find your prejudices against me any more founded than the statement I made towards you earlier. And, honestly, I do believe most gay parents willing to adopt would probably be better parents than the average person from your country (or most places).
And yea, blanket statements like that are "idiodic" ... Idiot.
Wow, someone is a little hostile. What, don't like criticism (the same criticism you deal out yet portray as absurd against you ... and totally justified against others [their basic defense you have even become "sick of" and called "too far"])?
I kind of thought your hypocracy would eventually shine fully through. You broke a little faster than the rest though.
You are telling a gay guy to fuck his mother? Thats kind of dumb, even for you.
I do kind of like how you keep escalating your violent idiocy though. Like anyone who cant defend their argument, you go straight to childish insults. Youre a standing testament against your own beliefs.
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Oh great, so now i'm like Hitler to you, because i dont support gay adoptions...Then at least half of the mankind is like Hitler. Get real for christ's sake!
good point there. But am a lil doubtful about the authenticity of your stats. Can you back that up, is it a fact that half of those kids end up the way you describe or is that your own judgement????
The tide is turning. Little by little we get a few of the rights we deserve. OREGON now has a domestic partner law: same legal rights as marriage but it's NOT marriage in the eyes of the CHRISTIAN right. It's the closest we will get for a long time.
Australia just had a new gay right legislation come in. It covers lesbian parenting (but not male). But right now there is a huge debate over gay "marriage". The Christians keep focusing on the "marriage" part, when we will just be happy for RIGHTS with a formal ceremony, call it what you will! It's absolutely nuts.
There are MANY kids right now that need urgently a loving home. They need love, comprehension and somebody to ALWAYS be there for them. I don't know why we aren't allowed to adopt!
PS (Just a thought)
Im a lesbian, raised by straight parents as all my gay friends were. Many prejudiced people think that gay people will "turn children gay". That's plain stupid. One does not "turn gay". You either are gay or not.
Well anybody should be able to adopt child!And gay familys is the same as just people!They really loving and they are awsome parents!we have gay couple in family and friends gays(they really cool)!
Adoption has challenged laws on numerous front by human rights,one interesting case was adopting person seeking benefits equal to maternity leave. April first child adoption laws have given some waiting period in US. Reports of foster parents mistreating li'l ones is on the rise,Often adoption is for financial gains rather than human cause.
Thats true, and some cases are sad. However many children are out there desperate for love and a chance so if there is 2 people, regardless of their sex, willing to give their love, that's brilliant.
here in los angles , we have NBC 4 news and they use the same music in the intro.
jamaq 2 months ago
ok, the assholes that say that it is better for a kid to be in a opposite sex family never seem to be in the line to get a kid from the adoption agencies.. they never step up and give a home to these children.. hypocrites all
xadam2dudex 5 months ago
Treblinka2012: A true jackass.
AllieFrease 8 months ago
isnt the solution obvious: let the gays adopt gay kids
MamaMario13 1 year ago
My partner and I are dads to 2 teens. I can assure you all that we are more careful with the topic of sexuality than our parents ever were and are more open to conversation regarding it. Our kids are terrific and have grown to accept us as dad- units who care deeply for their well-being, success and humanity. Both are working to overcome great turmoil and loss and I have every confidence that they will succeed. We believe in them. That's what really matters. Everything else is minor.
MrMadscotsman 1 year ago
The Bible says to honor your mother and father. It does not say honor your father and father or mother and mother. God is the creator of all things natural and homosexuality is not natural.
10kenbank 1 year ago
@10kenbank idiot.
davidls11 8 months ago
@davidls11 How exactly am I an idiot? I am basing what I am saying from the Bible so you must be calling God an idiot.
10kenbank 8 months ago
@10kenbank You're an idiot for believing in the bible.
davidls11 8 months ago
@10kenbank
"homosexuality is not natural"
neither is religion
AceofDiamonds0 8 months ago
@AceofDiamonds0 I never said that I am a religious person. I am not a religious person. I have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ. There is a difference between the two. Clearly you are a ignorant fool.Two fags rearing a child is like the blind leading the blind.
10kenbank 8 months ago
@10kenbank
sure you believe in god and follow jesus christ but your not religious or anything. you dont go to church but you use god to condemn behavour you dislike.
yes, a child being along with no parents being bounced from foster home to foster home is a better situation than the child being adopted by a loving couple, thats homosexual.
AceofDiamonds0 8 months ago
@AceofDiamonds0 Again you are putting words in my mouth. I did not say that I do not attend church. I do as part of my relationship with God through Jesus Christ. Also, I do not use God to condemn people. I use God to encourage and bring self conviction to people. You did say something I do believe. A child being along with no parents being bounced from foster home to foster home is a MUCH better situation than the child being adopted by a couple, thats homosexual because homosexuality is evil.
10kenbank 8 months ago
@10kenbank
so you believe in jesus and god, go to church and think homosexuality is evil. but youre not religious?
you want homosexuals to have a sense of self conviction based on your personal morals, or gods, isnt that called fascism? trying to push your idea or right and wrong on other people.
so you would deny orphaned children; 3 square meals a day, a warm home, a good education, and the love of 2 parents all because those parents happen to be homosexual? youre the evil one.
AceofDiamonds0 8 months ago
@AceofDiamonds0 Children need the influence of both a male and female role model. A mother and a father. With is a child suppose to do on Father's Day if he has two dykes? Also, there is no such thing as a " loving homosexual couple" because homosexuality is sinful. Furthermore, it is not my ideas of morals, it is God's morals. He said let a man and a women cleave to each other not fags and dykes cleave to each other.
10kenbank 8 months ago
@10kenbank
Congrats on winning Douche Bag of the year award. So you are saying that your imaginary friend says that it is better for a child to be raised in a home where the father abuses them and the mother does drugs? Intead of having two parents of the same gender who will raise them to be decent people? And just so you knock fucktard. The child would have male or female influences in their lives Aunts, Uncles, Grandparents, Teachers, Sports coaches, friends parents
MITSUKIISDEAD 7 months ago
@10kenbank
1.the choice isnt between a mother and a father or a gay couple (father/father) or (mother/mother). its a choice between two gay parents and no parents. few straight couples adopt, because they can just make there own.
2. thats a crap argument. its like saying jewish families shouldnt have kids, because then what would they do on easter.
AceofDiamonds0 7 months ago
@10kenbank
3. same point, your saying people should drop whatever they believe in and follow someone elses (gods) morals. because as long as they are not bowing to gods whim they are not moral. youre right you do not have your own morals you just latch on to whatever god thinks is right.
AceofDiamonds0 7 months ago
@AceofDiamonds0 Exactly.
10kenbank 7 months ago
@10kenbank
You represent the kind of person who should ahev their sexual organs removed by surgury and then burned so you can never reproduce. I have friends raised by gay couples and what to hear a secret? They are much better off than my friends whose parents are stright most of which argue and constintly getting devorices.
MITSUKIISDEAD 7 months ago
@AceofDiamonds0
The world would be a better place with out Religion.
MITSUKIISDEAD 7 months ago
If you going to let queers adopt kids give them the black ones there minds are alredy fucked up from birth
Treblinka2012 1 year ago
I LOVE it when people try to use "If their parents are gay, then their kid will be gay." That's the funniest thing anyone can ever say to me because my parents are straight (hence why they're married, duh) and yet, somehow, I'm gay!
I can't believe that some people would rather have straight, abusive couples adopt children than gay, loving and cherishing couples to adopt children.
Kage6415 1 year ago
I know many straight "parents" that should have their privates sewn up, and many gay couples that have tons of love to give to a child. (..okay, that came out wrong...)
KikyoChanXD 1 year ago
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fags doom nations.
MrBongo43 1 year ago
Lastly politicians who are pushing this through so kids can be denied a mum and dad GO TO HELL
vinnypop 1 year ago
@vinnypop Exactly cause whipping out your dick to show that you married a vagina is the best way to raise a kid. Besides Jesus doesn't exist.
TMBrd89 1 year ago
@vinnypop "Kids can be denied a mom and dad." People tend to forget the argument isn't whether these kids would have either straight parents or gay parents, but whether these kids would have parents or NO parents at all. I don't see opponents of gay adoption rushing out to adopt those children who are lacking mothers and fathers. So basically, their point is that it's better to let a child rot unloved and neglected in an orphanage than let them have parents.
krakenbwool04 1 year ago
Its about hating Jesus Christ not chemicals its a choice ok
vinnypop 1 year ago
When did giving civil union rights to gays which I agree come to the point that now they expect to be able to adopt. I may be able to accept lesbians adopting as they are natural mothers suffering during childbirth but it must NEVER be allowed for to gay men to adopt a child, women have the mother urge phsyically in them men dontttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
vinnypop 1 year ago
@vinnypop
lol sexist
pyr666 1 month ago
@BlazingGex no, gayness has not been connected with anything chemical just yet.
vamp666babe 1 year ago
@vamp666babe
Yes, it has.
khanmankhan10 5 months ago
I'm against gay couples adopting kids not because they will not be good parents but because this society is full of prejudices and it will be hard for a child to be finger pointed by other kids and adults, and even been descriminated by school or other groups. I think gay couples have to wait a bit more till society get more comfortable about this type of relation, is all about time ;)
eoublue 1 year ago
@eoublue that's a noble reason, but how will society adapt without gays starting to adopt? Change doesn't happen in vacuum. The best way people will start seeing gay couples as normal is when they start showing up to PTA meetings and being active in the community with their kids.
DarkNayru62 1 year ago
What about single parents?
Sparky9728 1 year ago
@Sparky9728 No, you must be gay for it to be OK.
MrBongo43 1 year ago
this is what i dont get...people are agianst homosexual adoptions because of all the "bad" things it could do to the child. but what about all the good adopting a child can do?
we're not talking about homosexuals stealing children from loving families. the "real" parents abandoned their children at the orphanages. are you saying no loving parents is better than loving homosexual parents?
AceofDimonds0 1 year ago
Politicians against same-sex adoption are DICKS. Seriously, they are a bunch of fucking bastards who just say shit so that gay couples can't have the same right as straights, to tell the truth, none of us is more superior or inferior to the other. Homosexuals deserve exact same right as heterosexuals, human rights don't count on just straights, why can't some people get that?
sugargirl723 1 year ago
what is the explanation of gay people raised by straight couple?
teddycheong 1 year ago 2
Ok heres a little fact, if you are raised by a gay couples and that would make you gay, then wouldn't two hetero parents make you straight? and since most ppl on the planet are straight then why are there gay ppl? wouldn't they be gay if they are raised by gay ppl? And wouldn't kids be straight if they were raised by straigh ppl? answer: HELL NO YOU IDIOT
PeytonMarieThompson 1 year ago
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ok, look. im not homophobic, i have gay friends but i think gay ppl shud definetely NOT be allowed to adopt. We're not talking about rights, we're talking about influencing another persons life and reducing the human race significantly. It would be a bad influence cos the kids will think gay= normal and turn gay themselves. if u say that wudnt happen ur just kidding urself. There r a lot of ppl whos parents have come out of the closet and they have followed right after them.
xanderthevampire 1 year ago
I don't think people "turn gay", I think its genetics.
vamp666babe 1 year ago 4
@vamp666babe Isn't it a lack of chemicals in the brain?
BlazingGex 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire Gay people should have equal rights to a man and woman couple. Why? Because it's not about what you love. It's about who you love. I mean the same love between a man and a woman is just the same between a man and a man or a woman and a woman. Also, you claim that gay parents have gay children? You couldnt be more wrong. Gay people are born gay, you can't turn gay or be made gay. Homosexually should be accepted. Well actually LOVE should be accepted. 'Cause that's all it is. :)
IEatYouWithSushi 1 year ago 2
what an idealistic thought- "u cant turn gay" WRONG! I actually know a couple of people who were totally straight, then their parents came out of the closet and they started runnin around proclaiming themselves to be gay. this was due to wanting to be like their parents. there is no difference between this and someone adopted by gay people, except that it is even more likely to happen if ther adopted by a gay cuple. i dnt mind if sum1s gay but to turn gay just because ur parent is- thats wrong.
xanderthevampire 1 year ago
This is flawed logic. You are basically saying that gay people come from other gay people. Or that an introduction of gay people to children will "turn" them gay. This is not true. Both my and my partner's parents are straight. Neither of us had any gay people around us growing up and we we're both raised to believe that gay wasn't "normal". However, we both grew up to be gay adults so how do you explain that? You can't!
Mysticbutterfly21 1 year ago 4
u idiot! did I say that ALL gay people came from gay environments? I did NOT! I do not disagree with the fact that gay people can come from a completely straight environment. what i am saying is that sometimes people who have gay parents turn gay themselves in order to emulate their parents. I don't have a problem with gay people, i have a problem with people being gay for the wrong reasons and gay adoption, I believe, would only make this happen more.
xanderthevampire 1 year ago
how can you be gay for the wrong reasons? seriously. you need to do some research on homosexuality or dont even post comments like what your saying if you dont even know what you are saying.
you. cant. turn. gay. End of story!
IEatYouWithSushi 1 year ago
haha. you seem to have the uncontrollable urge to ignore the truth. I know a family in Scotland with 5 kids- 2 boys and 3 girls (all straight). the mother came out of the closet n said she was gay and a couple of weeks later every one of her daughters had turned lesbian. (the boys n father r still straight) So stop talking rubbish. I have seen first hand that people can and do turn gay and when they do it can happen in this fashion. they're trying to emulate their parents. (or ADOPTIVE parents)
xanderthevampire 1 year ago
Ok im not ignoring the truth. Yes that may well be a true story but what is wrong with being gay anyway? what im trying to say is who cares if someone is gay or not they should have the same adoption rights as a man and woman couple.
IEatYouWithSushi 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire - LOL let's say if gay parents turn their children gay - what's wrong with that? but the point is that won't likely to happen! I can tell you what it likes to be a gay man and it's not a choice! you prick!
Brettles2309 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire - LOL let's say if gay parents turn their children gay - what's wrong with that? but the point is that won't likely to happen! I can tell you what it likes to be a gay man and it's not a choice! you prick!
Brettles2309 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire - LOL let's say if gay parents turn their children gay - what's wrong with that? but the point is that won't likely to happen! I can tell you what it likes to be a gay man and it's not a choice! you prick!
Brettles2309 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire
So what if gay adoption created a few more gay kids (it doesn't, homosexuality doesn't work like that). You see homosexuality as the greatest scurge on the planet, however, in the coming decades, with overpopulation, peak-oil and food and energy prises due to sky-rocket, humanity will need less humans reproducing. Period.
The gays, unwittingly, will literally be your savior. Not some magical Harry Potter bearded dude from some magical land where all the animals can talk.
Y2Krashman 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire Hey Xander, try picking up a book and doing some research. People don't "turn gay" because of gay parents. Parents don't cause a child's sexual orientation. If that were turn then the majority of gay people would be straight because they were raised by their straight parents. Being gay is a trait someone is born with like left handedness. If you were adopted by left handed parents it would not make you grow up to be left handed.
Duneschilde77 1 year ago
Yeah cause, there is absolutely no way that a straight family could possible raise a gay child. If you REALLY had gay friends you would know that it wasn't a choice and that sexual orientation is concrete. You're wrong and you know that you're wrong. Or else you wouldn't be starting a comment... look I'm not a homophobe. The same way a person starts a racist joke with, look I'm not a racist and I have a TON of black friends. Get real, real fast.
TMBrd89 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire okay - let me say something with a different word - It would be a bad influence cos the kids will think straight= normal and would be straight themselves.
You're a loser! Lots of straight parents have gay son or lesbian daughter! Guess what, I'm gay with straight parents!!!
Brettles2309 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire People don't become gay by influence, as people obviously do not become straight by influence. How do you explain that people "went gay" in the first place, when their parents and the vast majority around them are straight? It's not like the gay life was somehow cooler or better than straight life. There's nothing that would "pull people in" like in the drug scene or such. Nobody's pressuring you into being gay - the opposite, in fact.
It just doesn't work like that.
Kiraine 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire - that was really silly what you said. Many studies have shown that sexual orientation is more likely to be a genetic/biological or hormone induced thing than environmental. Besides. The Human population is exploding and killing the earth. It definitely wouldnt hurt to have more gay people
0dour 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire I love how every person about to deny homosexuals their basic human rights starts their argument with "I'm not homophobic, I have gay friends". Having gay friends doesn't prevent you from being homophobic.
cambotgypsytomcrow 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire a peson does not become gay through a socilisation proceses, this is clearly evident as many gay people were raised by straight parents. doing mri scans on gay males has revieled that the stucture of the hypothalamus nuclei responsibe for regulateing sexual behaviours is a different size to those of straight males, this is a strong indicator that sexual preference must be at least partially affected by genetics ipso facto you cannot socialise a childs sexual preference.
redoblivion131 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire got any proof?
szmandalover 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire
It's genetic, it has nothing to do with influencing children's sexuality.
And let's say, for the sake of the argument, that it does influence children, that it's not genetic. So what?
And give me statistics on your claims.
justforflag2 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire Just like straight parents only raise straight kids... right?
JasonGorr 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire I like how everyone says "I'm not homophobic and I have gay friends..." right before saying something incredibly homophobic.
XdearXyourXholinessX 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire A lot of children who have been raised by gay people did NOT turn out to be gay. And what is wrong with thinking "gay = normal" ? Are gays abnormal? No, they are not. They are people like you and i with different interests. I suppose children from gay homes are more likely to be gay because they will be given the *option* to be so, while children from straight parents will most likely be taught that gay = deviant / perverted behaviour, but that's how far it goes.
coccinelsucrer 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire
yes it is highly likily that children with homosexual parents will view homosexuality as "normal" and will respect peoples choices better.
but to say that all children raised by homosexuals will turn homosexual is just ingnorant, or to believe that it will have any effect on the production of future generations.
AceofDimonds0 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire Ha!!!! You're an idiot. For one, I know tons of gay people who weren't raised by gay parents and gay parents who have adopted and their kids are straight. And, about reducing the human race, THAT'S GOOD!!! It NEEDS to be reduced! The earth is over populated by over almost 4 Million! It's been that way since the 1970s. People are born gay. Sorry bro, you can't really win.
ilikenintendo2005 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire yes, because if the parents are gay the child will be gay. just like how my parents are straight so now im straight... oh wait. no I'm not.
and you do not 'turn gay'. you're born that way.
strangeling354 1 year ago
@xanderthevampire You have a right to an opinion. I dont agree that people who dont like what you have to say can just vote you down and have your comments hidden. YOUTUBE is a populist politically correct heap of shit not a democracy. This is virtual facism at its best when the "countryless" YOUTUBE makes up its own law.
The real issue hear is the lefty trend to champion loud minorities. Im a real green and social justice advocate not a national socialist
euqsabtnatillim 10 months ago
@xanderthevampire Amen to that!
10kenbank 8 months ago
Congratulation gentleman, I Wish for the 3 of you a happy life, and hope you can find the strength and hold to it, when ever you are faced with bigotry
DisturbedVEGAN 2 years ago 3
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Gays are gross.
dukeljk 2 years ago
@dukeljk homophobes are gross.
bukkakekisses 2 years ago 3
@dukeljk
What are you, like 12?
Gays are gross. What kind of primitive, childish moron posts shit like that. Honestly.
You from Iran? Afghanistan?... Primary school?
Ok. Let's go eat some fuckin' paste.
Y2Krashman 1 year ago
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someguyyt 2 years ago
Evo, you're not God. Religion has nothing to do with it, but even if you believe in that, then if God didn't want gay people to have kids, he would have made them sterile. But gay people aren't sterile. They can conceive kids just as well as straight people. And they can adopt too. As for the kids, I have two dads. I think I'm a normal person. I'm happy. I went to college. I have a good job. My brothers and I are just regular people. What bad effect do you think having gay parents had on us?
rainbowheartgirl 2 years ago
Yes how dare they want to give a child a good loving home. That child should live in a system without any parents period! Thats so much better than two dads right? Maybe the bio mother should have just had an abortion? Anything than giving a child a good home with two parents who happen to be the same sex!
Boudiga 2 years ago 3
ProudToBeWhite84 - Nice name there sparky --NOT! How many deprived children have YOU helped? HUH? Please - we're all ears..tell us.
rextrek 2 years ago 2
and those asians and other minorities eh?
amidoinitrite?
lol dik
red2seata 2 years ago
Better a child adopted as safe with 2 loving gay parents then abusive bio parents like a mother and father or going from home to home with abusive foster parents.
mylovesofmylife 2 years ago
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mrglee232 2 years ago
It's called spell check. Look into it.
wolvengodkesai 2 years ago
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Where are all these children that gays are going to adopt going to come from? Hundreds of thousands of babies and children have been stolen by child "protective" services from good families. Do gays care where their children / babies come from that they adopt?
Tarchomraicer 3 years ago
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Thanks for 6 negatives...I really dont give a shit :) And i will never in my life support gay adoptions! You can go cry now and call me homophobic or delight me with another -6....
RedrumSLO 3 years ago
Oh I gave you no thumbs down. I respect opinions.
notlqueen 3 years ago
they literally saved a life
notlqueen 3 years ago
Well done guys, good luck with family life. :)
DubbingU92 3 years ago 4
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sick sick
GayStudio 3 years ago
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oh my God
that poor little girl is gonna be raised by two fags.. what is this world coming to
where are the good old days when God destroyed Sodom and Amorah? that judge who approved such an adoption is a criminal and should burn in hell
Drsilmi 3 years ago
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Why are there still adoptions going on? This is really sad.
vittoriadessica 3 years ago
Love is what truly makes a family. Not there being one man, one wife and two children; but a sense of togetherness and unity. Love is what makes the world go round.
bjnboy 3 years ago 9
You got that right bjnboy..but u might wanna water that love a with money from time to time, coz to be realistic, money is what makes the world go round. aint that the old cliche...hehehe!
Ashombang 2 years ago
fuck yes. yay for two moms and dads...this is great
mimigrownup 3 years ago 7
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fuck no... thats unnatural. I dont mean being gay, but being gay and adopting a child. Thats not right!
RedrumSLO 3 years ago
Do you know what happens to the half a million children in the foster system that are not adopted? Most go to jail, whether or not they have committed a crime, or they get killed.
I would know, I work with foster youth. Allowing gays to adopt will save the lives of countless children.
notlqueen 3 years ago
Dont try to convince me, regardless what you say i have my own opinion. I'm by far not conservative or homophobic, but i will NEVER support gay adoptions...I just cant.
RedrumSLO 3 years ago
well, to each his own then but all I am saying is letting gays adopt these kids would literally save lives. i work w/ foster kids. therefore u put straight adoptions above ppl's lives.
notlqueen 3 years ago 2
Maybe you're right but if i was a foster child i wouldnt want to be adopted by gays...I'm pretty sure of that.
RedrumSLO 3 years ago
Like I said to each his own, I respect your opinion. Yes, foster children can decline a family for ANY reason they choose. For ex, 1 boy I worked w/ declined a family b/c he's a country boy and doesn't want to live in Brooklyn.
notlqueen 3 years ago 2
Well you have a point i must say...I still have my own views on that but its good sharing own opinions with somebody who is intelligent and respectful. Greetings!
RedrumSLO 3 years ago 2
greetings.
notlqueen 3 years ago
Slovakian, is it close to Polish? I've been to Slovakia back in 2004. Would you understand "Czesc, jak sie masz?"
notlqueen 3 years ago
Why?
vamp666babe 3 years ago
@RedrumSLO
you freely admit you irrationally believe gays shouldnt be able to adopt, and thats something other than bigotry? lol
pyr666 1 month ago
Currently they are not ALLOWED to adopt. Would be brilliant though. Another hurdle to get over.
vamp666babe 3 years ago
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You asked why...Well from my view a family can only consist of a man, a woman and their kids. Like i said before i aint conservative but gay adoptions is something a wont support.
RedrumSLO 3 years ago
Family = a person or persons who are taking care of a child or children.
Nobody can stop the progress and human rights. Gay marriage and adoptions coming soon in every country.
santanicolili 3 years ago 2
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You wish....i know a bunch of countries who will never alow this.
RedrumSLO 3 years ago
One day the whole world will respect human rights.
santanicolili 3 years ago 3
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only in your dreams
RedrumSLO 3 years ago
No, things will always be the same. That is why we still live in caves, oh, wait we don't - it's called progress.
santanicolili 3 years ago 14
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The atomic bomb was also called "progress"....
RedrumSLO 3 years ago
Gay marriage won't destroy the world but people who hate humans might (Hitler).
santanicolili 3 years ago 15
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I have nothing against gay marriage, i'm only against adoptions, cuz it Immoral in my view. Now go ahead and give me - points
...stupid fags
RedrumSLO 3 years ago
hey stupid heterosexual-female,
its not your call. Who controls your sperm?
nobody wants to.
So go get a life of your own. YOU are the one harming children of gay parents, with your hateful comments.
Dont be a bastard, you only have a 100 years to live.
amithji 3 years ago 3
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How am I harming the children of gay parents if i may ask? And btw i aint female, dont know where you got that....
I stand behind my words and i really dont give a damn about people like you....Dont be a fag you have only about 70 years to live
RedrumSLO 3 years ago
"i really dont give a damn about people"
Yep
RoseEEOE 2 years ago 2
you forgot "like you"
idiot
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
It was obviously intentional, and a fairly pointless qualifier by you anyway. I sincerely doubt you have much respect for any human life outside of your own.
RoseEEOE 2 years ago 2
Look smartass you dont know me, so you cant judge me. And gay adoptions are wrong as far as i'm concerned.
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
I'm sick of you people, regarding me as a bad person only because i dont agree with gay adoptions.
Grow up, you're "gay rights" have their limits! Just get over it..
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
I am sure plenty of people hate you enough to want to steal your children or garantee they have little to no protections, expecially when it comes to your partner/partent2. I at least have the respect to find uinversially supporting that absurd and heartless.
I can at least understand your argument against gay preference, but there are plent of situations where your view is all but abusive/harmful to children.
"you cant judge me"
Your throwing around enough of that for the both of us.
RoseEEOE 2 years ago
What you think isnt neccessarily always true. I dont want harm to any child, but gays shouldnt be allowed to adopt. Thats my opinion and i can express it wherever i want.
If you dont agree its allright, everyone has its own opinion.
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
The VAST majority of gay adoptions are children of relatives (aunts, uncles, grandparents, when the parents die) or are co-adoptions for one of the partners biological children. Stealing children away from relatives or simply keeping them in the same position with less rights and protections is hardly helping them ... even if you don't like the idea of gay parents.
I would be hard pressed to find a good argument against a couple ... expecially when they can usually adopt as single.
RoseEEOE 2 years ago 2
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Ok, i agree, there are special cases in which gay couples can actually help a child....I was thinking of gays who adopt random children, because they want kids. To that i cant and wont agree.
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
Ok. At least you agree with that. The anti-gay adoption laws really have NO wiggle room though, and pretty much serve only to interfere with these "special cases." I am not going to campaign for general adoption, but there are people whos job is to determine the best home for these children, and to throw everyone out of a group away instantly for something you don't agree with (and has not proven harmful to children) just puts children in worse homes (if any at all). My opinion though.
RoseEEOE 2 years ago 2
no you cant hide behind " its my opinion and i can express it"
no you fucking cant
if your opinion spreads hate against others and makes other peoples lives misserable just because you have an opinion then no you shouldnt be able to say your opinion
just like you cant go around saying blacks shouldnt marry
grow up
and realise that too object against something you need a reason and not the fact that your to much of a biggot to realise that 2 men can be amazing parents
slamt08 2 years ago
Yes i fucking can, alright.. Since i dont live in North Korea i can express my views free...Being black isnt a sexual orientation, being gay is. I didnt say they shouldnt be allowed to marry, just they shouldnt have kids! I bet the majority of adopted kids would suffer from other's discrimination, bullying ect.. Their whole life would be tough only because of his parents.
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
no you cant
the only difference between being black and being gay is opinion from others
if you think that having two loving parents is more harmfull to a child than a small part of bullying (which most kids go through anyway)
if i was a child with no parents and had noone who cared about me
i would love to be adopted by anyone
and even kids you ask with 2 dads or moms say there fine and love there lives
who are you to tell them there not happy
slamt08 2 years ago
Besides, many women who cant have their own kids are waiting in line for adoption....And they should have advantage to adopt!
So here are my reasons....happy now?
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
that isnt a reason
thats a biggoted opinion
many lesbian couples also want kids
and they want them for the exact same reasons
so how is it different
there should be no advantage to anyone
people are all equal and for you to tell a gay couple there lesser people than a straight couple is idiotic , biggoted , ignorand and i bet in 5 years when gays have as much acceptance as blacks you will look back at yourself with shame
slamt08 2 years ago 2
Nope, i dont think i will look back with shame, because i have nothing to be ashamed for. I have my views and i stay behind them. Gays who live in western countries can be glad that they have so mutch rights, in the Mid-East being gay is still considered a crime....and that wont change in 5 years.
May i ask, are u gay?
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
slamt08 2 years ago
Gays should be treated equal, but not in THIS case! Maybe i'm too "old fashioned" but family for me consists of a man, a woman and their children, and that is - lets say, holy for me. I dont oppose if two gays want to live together, its their choice, but if we talk about adoption, there's a 3 person involved and that person can't decide whether or not it wants to live with same sex parents.
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
slamt08 2 years ago
Yes i'm denying gays children, because i have moral concerns about this and i cant change that alright?! Its how i FEEL about that, i'm very sorry for not having a more solid argument, just like you can't change that you're gay, its how you feel, thats it.
And i'm also denying children to single parents who arent able to take care for them, if they're straight or gay it doesnt matter....
So i dont hate gays, i'm not fascist or something similar, and i'm also not christian.
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
slamt08 2 years ago
"in a couple of years
adoption will be legalized everywhere"
Good luck on that......
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
well its legal in my country
i just want other countrys to be less stupid
its not a problem to me
but i can see it being a huge deal for others
slamt08 2 years ago
Well said Slamt08, if a same sex couple can provide a stable, loving family environment whats the problem, I am wondering if this person has saved and kids from state care.... IF U want to see stable children look up user name Depfox and view their blogs, they are two males raising two kids who are happy and healthy, these two love them and take care of their every need.
People need to wake up...this is 2009 not 1909..jeez..
Danroe 2 years ago
Redrum, who are you to make that decision? I have two gay dads, and I certainly don't care that they are gay. Their sexual orientation has nothing to do with the kind of parents they are. And there's certainly no reason to discriminate against gay people when it comes to adoption. Gay men and lesbians are just as likely to be good parents as straight people. And their children turn out just as well adjusted as children of straight parents.
rainbowheartgirl 2 years ago
I'm not in the position to decide (lucky for gay couples eh ;)) I just have my opinion, thats it.....
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
Redrum, I guess it is lucky. Where I live, gay adoption has been legal for a long time, 20-25 years, so it's strange for me to think that there are places where it's not legal yet.
rainbowheartgirl 2 years ago
Well, it maybe strange to you, you live in the USA and many things are different in your country. Where I live, nobody even thought about this 20-25 yrs ago, we were a socialist country and such issues were more or less off the table.
I even have a lexicon from the 80', where homosexuality is even considered a mentall disorder lol (not that i agree on that).
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
Redrum, that's true. Things are different in various places around the world. However, surely there must be gay and lesbian parents in Slovenia. Even if they can't officially adopt, I bet there are some who have created families. All lesbians need is someone willing to donate sperm, and if they can't have access to sperm banks in your country (not sure), male friends might be willing to provide some. That's how lesbians had babies in the U.S. in the 70s, before they had equal laws.
rainbowheartgirl 2 years ago
I think they should ban adoption and co-parenty for people from Slovenia, even if the child is related. I heard there sinful lifestyle is dirty and harmful to children. And I of course mean that in the best way possible (and I am sick of people like you getting angry at MY disagreement).
bEEarCUB 2 years ago
You probably dont even know where our country is. And i'm not angry with your disagreement.
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
"You probably dont even know where our country is"
I guess you imagined that little ditty off of yet another stereotype?
I have been to Italy and Austria. Never spent time in Slovenia, but I surely know where it is (and know a few people from there).
bEEarCUB 2 years ago
Good for you. So from your experiances with our country you claim our life style is dirty and harmful to children.
....yea right idiot
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
Its called sarcasm (well ... mostly). I, however, don't find your prejudices against me any more founded than the statement I made towards you earlier. And, honestly, I do believe most gay parents willing to adopt would probably be better parents than the average person from your country (or most places).
And yea, blanket statements like that are "idiodic" ... Idiot.
bEEarCUB 2 years ago 6
I said 'probably' i didnt claim you dont know anything about us. And you can put your wannabe sarcasm directly into your anus...thank you
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
Wow, someone is a little hostile. What, don't like criticism (the same criticism you deal out yet portray as absurd against you ... and totally justified against others [their basic defense you have even become "sick of" and called "too far"])?
I kind of thought your hypocracy would eventually shine fully through. You broke a little faster than the rest though.
bEEarCUB 2 years ago
Jebi si mater
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
You are telling a gay guy to fuck his mother? Thats kind of dumb, even for you.
I do kind of like how you keep escalating your violent idiocy though. Like anyone who cant defend their argument, you go straight to childish insults. Youre a standing testament against your own beliefs.
Keep on proving me right if you want.
bEEarCUB 2 years ago
I'm not in a mood right now to argue with you on this. You can do with your mother whatever you want......
RedrumSLO 2 years ago
So was hitler.
vamp666babe 3 years ago 2
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Oh great, so now i'm like Hitler to you, because i dont support gay adoptions...Then at least half of the mankind is like Hitler. Get real for christ's sake!
RedrumSLO 3 years ago
good point there. But am a lil doubtful about the authenticity of your stats. Can you back that up, is it a fact that half of those kids end up the way you describe or is that your own judgement????
Ashombang 2 years ago
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sick! dont even get me started...
millylafondagirl 3 years ago
The tide is turning. Little by little we get a few of the rights we deserve. OREGON now has a domestic partner law: same legal rights as marriage but it's NOT marriage in the eyes of the CHRISTIAN right. It's the closest we will get for a long time.
BRANDONCARMODY 3 years ago 7
Australia just had a new gay right legislation come in. It covers lesbian parenting (but not male). But right now there is a huge debate over gay "marriage". The Christians keep focusing on the "marriage" part, when we will just be happy for RIGHTS with a formal ceremony, call it what you will! It's absolutely nuts.
vamp666babe 3 years ago
Keep the dream alive.
BRANDONCARMODY 3 years ago 2
OMG! The babies were so CUTE!!!!
There are MANY kids right now that need urgently a loving home. They need love, comprehension and somebody to ALWAYS be there for them. I don't know why we aren't allowed to adopt!
PS (Just a thought)
Im a lesbian, raised by straight parents as all my gay friends were. Many prejudiced people think that gay people will "turn children gay". That's plain stupid. One does not "turn gay". You either are gay or not.
Anyway, thanks for posting this! Take care! :D
rockcrazyfan 3 years ago 7
Well anybody should be able to adopt child!And gay familys is the same as just people!They really loving and they are awsome parents!we have gay couple in family and friends gays(they really cool)!
P.p.s.I see you love little kids.)))how sweet
Kbabykgirlk 3 years ago 6
Yeah. I do love little kids! They are amazingly beautiful! :D
rockcrazyfan 3 years ago 2
Well said, well said.
vamp666babe 3 years ago
Thank you! :)
rockcrazyfan 3 years ago 2
Adoption has challenged laws on numerous front by human rights,one interesting case was adopting person seeking benefits equal to maternity leave. April first child adoption laws have given some waiting period in US. Reports of foster parents mistreating li'l ones is on the rise,Often adoption is for financial gains rather than human cause.
Fixhist 3 years ago 2
Thats true, and some cases are sad. However many children are out there desperate for love and a chance so if there is 2 people, regardless of their sex, willing to give their love, that's brilliant.
vamp666babe 3 years ago