PinkyDove That is where you're ABSOLUTELY wrong. You and Rick Warren types classify homosexuality as "human behavior." That's like saying heterosexuality is all about male and female "intercourse." Can you not be straight and have never had sex. Being gay is an IDENTITY much like race is.
Unless you are gay- you and Mr. Warren have little to NO merit to have an opinion on the matter. Go to the source.... I don't know.. like maybe ACTUAL GAYS. It's as much of an identity as their race.
Just what we need is another narcissist in or even near the White House. Bush is a narcissist, chosen and lead by God himself so he says, so why such a terrible job of leadership during the last 8 years? Maybe God is a great creator but a sucky leader apparently, or just a really bad judge of character. I don't care what religion a person has, I just wish they would keep it to themselves.
By the way, I actually believe everyone should be afforded the same rights regardless of sexual orientation, race, etc. What I don't agree with is the fact that people like YOU demonize those that don't share the same views as you. You're just as bad as those you oppose. YOU ARE THE SAME. Stop playing the victim. It's tiring and annoying.
Wait a minute, Pinky. Are you saying we aren't oppressed and should shut up and stop whining?! What, you think change is going to come to us if we don't protest? Also, do you KNOW any gay people on a personal level? There is a growing body of research that suggest biology is at least one of the factors contributing to sexual orientation, but it really shouldn't matter. You'll be hard pressed to find very many gay or lesbian people who didn't know that they were different at a very early age.
Are you arguing that sexual orientation is dictated by biological fact and not human behavior? If so, I'd love to hear your reason. And "right-wing cliche"? Aren't you hiding behind your own left-wing cliche" by refusing to even try and answer my question? So typical of left-wing nuts. It's a valid question. It really is. But of course you won't. Because you have no valid response. Tell me you support polygamy & incest among consenting adults. Then at least you won't contradict your own logic.
Your polygamy/incest stance is a completely inane argument. It defaults to a slippery slope. One could just as easily say that if you allow straight men and women to marry, then you must also support marriages that include incest and polygamy. It's NOT a reasonable argument.
Wow! It seems like too many people within the LGBTQ community suffer from this sort of collective internalized homophobia that causes them to defend people who continue to crush us. I'm also tired of conservative evangelical Christians who use their religion as a shield from criticism. You know the line - "I'm not a homophobe, just a Christian who believes gay people should be treated like scum. Please, don't call me homophobic. I love scum." Whatever.
This guy's argument is weak at best. So Obama shouldn't have chosen Rick Warren because he's "anti-gay"? What if he chose someone that was "pro-gay", but also happened to be "anti-polygamy" or "anti-incest"? Shouldn't polygamists and siblings be afforded the same civil rights if they're consenting adults? Where's the outrage for their rights? And please PLEASE don't compare homosexuality with racism. Race is dictated by biological fact. Homosexuality is defined by human behavior.
You obviously don't have any understanding of what sexual orientation is and your comparisons to incest and polygamy are so right-wing cliché that they don't even warrant civil discussion. People like you love to discriminate and won't let go of that sick pleasure. Once open hostility toward LGBT people becomes taboo, and it will someday, youll find another minority group to oppress.
so we shouldn't complain when someone like Rick Warren compares our relationships to pedophilia, incest and bestiality? Standing up for whats right is pathetic? Is that whining? Rev. Lowery has our support already. We are trying to correct a mistake, letting people know that we are tired of being treated like shit.
why would you recognize someone who is pro-gay? The radio show is trying to turn people away from anti-gay.... do you even listen to Michelangelo's show on sirius outQ?
So why is the gay community ignoring Rev. Lowery who is pro-gay and pro-SSM. Is there something about him that makes him INVISIBLE? The gay community, with it's whining about Warren, have lost all legitimacy and gone back ten years. The Xian fundies LOVE the Warren-backlash. Why not focus on the CHURCH LEADER who is pro-gay and pro-SSM that will close the show? This is so pathetic. Grow up.
Why does he have to change his mind from his beliefs. Each person can believe as they will.
missVeemack 1 year ago
Great responses Mike!
grantorela 3 years ago
Melissa Etheridge is in favor of Rick Warren.
gypsygrl1 3 years ago
Your point is?
And to say she's "in favor" or Rick Warren is overstating quite a bit.
Frackin64 3 years ago
She said she met with him and liked him.
gypsygrl1 3 years ago
That's not the same as being "in favor" of someone. You can like someone and disagree with them.
Frackin64 3 years ago
she doesnt want him shot. very 'in favour'
Xariabyron 3 years ago
She said she liked him.
gypsygrl1 3 years ago
PinkyDove That is where you're ABSOLUTELY wrong. You and Rick Warren types classify homosexuality as "human behavior." That's like saying heterosexuality is all about male and female "intercourse." Can you not be straight and have never had sex. Being gay is an IDENTITY much like race is.
Unless you are gay- you and Mr. Warren have little to NO merit to have an opinion on the matter. Go to the source.... I don't know.. like maybe ACTUAL GAYS. It's as much of an identity as their race.
jayreed555 3 years ago
Just what we need is another narcissist in or even near the White House. Bush is a narcissist, chosen and lead by God himself so he says, so why such a terrible job of leadership during the last 8 years? Maybe God is a great creator but a sucky leader apparently, or just a really bad judge of character. I don't care what religion a person has, I just wish they would keep it to themselves.
SkinsDeep 3 years ago
By the way, I actually believe everyone should be afforded the same rights regardless of sexual orientation, race, etc. What I don't agree with is the fact that people like YOU demonize those that don't share the same views as you. You're just as bad as those you oppose. YOU ARE THE SAME. Stop playing the victim. It's tiring and annoying.
PinkyDove 3 years ago
Wait a minute, Pinky. Are you saying we aren't oppressed and should shut up and stop whining?! What, you think change is going to come to us if we don't protest? Also, do you KNOW any gay people on a personal level? There is a growing body of research that suggest biology is at least one of the factors contributing to sexual orientation, but it really shouldn't matter. You'll be hard pressed to find very many gay or lesbian people who didn't know that they were different at a very early age.
RbnHrtzll 3 years ago 2
Are you arguing that sexual orientation is dictated by biological fact and not human behavior? If so, I'd love to hear your reason. And "right-wing cliche"? Aren't you hiding behind your own left-wing cliche" by refusing to even try and answer my question? So typical of left-wing nuts. It's a valid question. It really is. But of course you won't. Because you have no valid response. Tell me you support polygamy & incest among consenting adults. Then at least you won't contradict your own logic.
PinkyDove 3 years ago
Your polygamy/incest stance is a completely inane argument. It defaults to a slippery slope. One could just as easily say that if you allow straight men and women to marry, then you must also support marriages that include incest and polygamy. It's NOT a reasonable argument.
RbnHrtzll 3 years ago 2
Wow! It seems like too many people within the LGBTQ community suffer from this sort of collective internalized homophobia that causes them to defend people who continue to crush us. I'm also tired of conservative evangelical Christians who use their religion as a shield from criticism. You know the line - "I'm not a homophobe, just a Christian who believes gay people should be treated like scum. Please, don't call me homophobic. I love scum." Whatever.
RbnHrtzll 3 years ago 2
This guy's argument is weak at best. So Obama shouldn't have chosen Rick Warren because he's "anti-gay"? What if he chose someone that was "pro-gay", but also happened to be "anti-polygamy" or "anti-incest"? Shouldn't polygamists and siblings be afforded the same civil rights if they're consenting adults? Where's the outrage for their rights? And please PLEASE don't compare homosexuality with racism. Race is dictated by biological fact. Homosexuality is defined by human behavior.
PinkyDove 3 years ago
You obviously don't have any understanding of what sexual orientation is and your comparisons to incest and polygamy are so right-wing cliché that they don't even warrant civil discussion. People like you love to discriminate and won't let go of that sick pleasure. Once open hostility toward LGBT people becomes taboo, and it will someday, youll find another minority group to oppress.
RbnHrtzll 3 years ago 4
Pssh. It's their way. Everything's okay if it's your religious belief, apparently.
nyXdeathXangel 3 years ago
so we shouldn't complain when someone like Rick Warren compares our relationships to pedophilia, incest and bestiality? Standing up for whats right is pathetic? Is that whining? Rev. Lowery has our support already. We are trying to correct a mistake, letting people know that we are tired of being treated like shit.
johnozed 3 years ago 5
why would you recognize someone who is pro-gay? The radio show is trying to turn people away from anti-gay.... do you even listen to Michelangelo's show on sirius outQ?
JazzyChef 3 years ago
So why is the gay community ignoring Rev. Lowery who is pro-gay and pro-SSM. Is there something about him that makes him INVISIBLE? The gay community, with it's whining about Warren, have lost all legitimacy and gone back ten years. The Xian fundies LOVE the Warren-backlash. Why not focus on the CHURCH LEADER who is pro-gay and pro-SSM that will close the show? This is so pathetic. Grow up.
UnionStayshyn 3 years ago