When the world copy our ancestor invention, no one said anything, from rocket, match, paper, cloths, compass and many more equipment. When we tried to move forward by copying little thing the world is crying. Without the scientist from German, what the US and Russian could do!
Sadness chiese ppl copy like hell su 30 MKI totally CoPIED look AT D-- 1 - air brakes 2 - front mall wings fr better manuver evry upgrade to su 30 in mik version iz copied may b 3-D thrust vectoring Iz also copied (if Chinese ppl Have BRain ) if there iz smthin indeginous in china its "chowmin and Momos" lolzzz
@MikiBharat your just mad because China in 10 years won't need to buy foreign nations avionics anymore where In 50 years, India will still need to import planes from Russia
india has launched its indigenous LCA (not bad for a start coz its the lightest supper sonic with most of its body made with advanced composites better than jf17 in any aspect)
India doesn't import SU 30mki but it manufactures it under russia's license instead of making 3rd class cheap copies like j 11 and j 15
India is currently working of indigenous stealth AMCA (u can cheak the wiki page for that)
don live in ur dreams and learn sum factsabt wats going on
@MikiBharat what do u india can make? curry ? china is no1 industry country (2 times than america) , we could produce all advance weapons by ourself, now we are making 3 kinds of stealth jets in same time, our industry is easy changing to war machines when war is coming, what about you shameless india, pay bloody high price buy junk weapon but you could not feed you 70% poor indian, you poor su30 crash down and ur pilots fear of flying this fly coffins
@songchao528 well we have our own mind that works freely not according to the government. our avg i.q level iz twice than u ppl . we know English better than u. we have d most diverse landscape. our tourism industry iz on boom we hv 3rd largest economy(ppp index). our IT sector iz on boom.in our country ppl hv dere own rights ppl r free to live lyk de want.we hv our indigenous missiles,warships,air craft and all advanced weapon system which r developed through our own research, nt cheap copies.
@MikiBharat Not really. The LCA has inferior range compared to the JF-17 and unlike the LCA, the JF-17 is fully indigenous, where as the LCA is just an indian airframe with foreign engines electronics and radar. However the indian military is more transparent than china, you know what they do at all times. Our governmeent (China) never really tells us what they're up to...
all info based on wiki Empty wt JF=6586kg LCA=6560kg Max takeoff wt JF=12383kg LCA=13200kg G-limit JF=+8 g / -3 g LCA=+9/−3.5 g Internal Fuel Capacity JF=2300kg LCA=2458kg Maximum speed JF=Mach1.6 LCA=Mach1.8 Thrust/weight JF=0.95 LCA=1.07
Ferry range JF=3482km LCA=3000km Service ceiling JF=16920m LCA=15250m THESE ARE THE 2 AREAS WHERE LCA IZ BEHIND JF
@MikiBharat Are you stupid? The J-15 is not a copy of the SU-30 MKI, if anything it uses the airframe of the SU-33 which is a carrier based flanker. The MKI is just an upgrade of the regular SU-30. If I use your method of determining planes purely by appearrancce then I could say the SU-33 is a copy of the MKI.
Hell, I could even say the other flankers are also copies of the MKI.
I like the part of the video where the subtitle shows "Nice" when Till Lindemann says "No". Not only can the Chinese misuse English in publishing and videos, but now also German as well.
...and it is a copy, the structural engineering acquired from an unfinished Su-33 prototype acquired from the Ukraine, the structural improvements required for carrier ops being probably the most important component of a carrier-based aircraft.
It fulfills more the role like the F/A-18 Superhornet strike fighter, than the purely air-superiority role of the original Su-33.
Advanced avionics and modern chinese active radar missiles and anti-shipping munitions are the key-parts which keeps the J-15 apart from the basic Su-33.
I wish the russians would do something like this too (ie. updating the Su-33), instead of going for the MiG-29 for their carrier aviation...
@IvanXylakantsky su-33 was made in USSR 20 years ago say thanks to Ukraine to buy it in 2005 we actually have new modernization of su-33 and mig-29 but we don't not need it we will better build pak fa instead. why u just cannot make yr own plane and not to buy and copy and afterworlds say its so Chinese its so cool it can match every plane!
@IvanXylakantsky They're not even able to build relyable Thrust Vectors so how can they build something better than we do? We have MUCH more experience than they will gain in the next 20 Years.
For those who say that this is a "copy", it shows how little you know about aviation or this aircraft.
If you know anything about military aircraft, you would know that looks itself means almost nothing.
The J-15 uses completely new Chinese-developed technology, even the engines and the RAM coating. The only non-Chinese component is the Su-33 airframe. Besides that, all the main and important components are Chinese-developed. It's pretty much a Chinese fighter in a Russian skin.
most j-10 are still flying with Russian AL-31 engline, JH-7a engine is also not Chinese made,..J-20's engine is unknown, hopefully it is really ws-15 or ws-10 variant....the reason why i brought this up is to remind our own people that we started our aviation industry 100 years later than the west....it is already incredible that we have reached such a point... i am proud to see J-20 and J-10b, when is see j-11b, su 30 or su27, h-6...J-15 that really piss me off, why cant we desgin our own skin
First of all, the airframe has been extensively upgraded by PLA. It has incorporated composites, RAM, making it 700 kg lighter than any Flanker airframe and eight times stealthier than the Su-30MKI. Why waste time when you can simply use proven ones? The fact that the airframe is based on a Russian one does not mean the aircraft is not 100% indigenous.
Lets not respond to MikiBharat, I admire his nationalism, but he's just a troll, albeit not a very good one.
zingisgood 1 month ago
Meh... The Shenyang factory never really designs stuff. They just copy. Chengdu on the other hand actually has the brains to design.
zingisgood 1 month ago
J11b eats shit of Su 30mki
MikiBharat 1 month ago
When the world copy our ancestor invention, no one said anything, from rocket, match, paper, cloths, compass and many more equipment. When we tried to move forward by copying little thing the world is crying. Without the scientist from German, what the US and Russian could do!
Fidelchan1 1 month ago
copy su33 (russia) paste j15 (china) => made in china!
gaconsten 2 months ago
SO WHAT IF THIS IS COPY? ITS NEW NOT EXPRENSIVE! LIKE SU-33 I MEAN THIS WILL BE BETTER!
SorrybutJebiga 3 months ago
MikiBharat 3 months ago
@MikiBharat INDIAAAA!!!!! hows ur indigenous brainy LCA project? Did you use curry paste as its anti radar coat? LMFAO
AnjuABCDE 3 months ago
@MikiBharat your just mad because China in 10 years won't need to buy foreign nations avionics anymore where In 50 years, India will still need to import planes from Russia
AnjuABCDE 3 months ago
@AnjuABCDE in ur dreams
for ur info
india has launched its indigenous LCA (not bad for a start coz its the lightest supper sonic with most of its body made with advanced composites better than jf17 in any aspect)
India doesn't import SU 30mki but it manufactures it under russia's license instead of making 3rd class cheap copies like j 11 and j 15
India is currently working of indigenous stealth AMCA (u can cheak the wiki page for that)
don live in ur dreams and learn sum factsabt wats going on
MikiBharat 3 months ago
@MikiBharat what do u india can make? curry ? china is no1 industry country (2 times than america) , we could produce all advance weapons by ourself, now we are making 3 kinds of stealth jets in same time, our industry is easy changing to war machines when war is coming, what about you shameless india, pay bloody high price buy junk weapon but you could not feed you 70% poor indian, you poor su30 crash down and ur pilots fear of flying this fly coffins
china j11B are far better than ur su30MKI
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@songchao528 well we have our own mind that works freely not according to the government. our avg i.q level iz twice than u ppl . we know English better than u. we have d most diverse landscape. our tourism industry iz on boom we hv 3rd largest economy(ppp index). our IT sector iz on boom.in our country ppl hv dere own rights ppl r free to live lyk de want.we hv our indigenous missiles,warships,air craft and all advanced weapon system which r developed through our own research, nt cheap copies.
MikiBharat 1 month ago
@songchao528
at present india iz developing 2 stealh planes
FGFA wid russia and othr indigenous AMCA
our Brahmos iz the fastest and most accurate Cruse missile in d wrld
india will induct 3 indigenous aircraft carriers by 2015
we have indigenous anti ballistic missile system which u don hv
we buy best wepons frm russia israel and u.s instead of makin cheap 3rd class copies
nd check gdp list on wiki china iz not 2 times than america in production
uppl support pak so u suprt terrorism
Fuck U China
MikiBharat 1 month ago
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@songchao528 J11b eats shit of Su 30mki
MikiBharat 1 month ago
@MikiBharat Not really. The LCA has inferior range compared to the JF-17 and unlike the LCA, the JF-17 is fully indigenous, where as the LCA is just an indian airframe with foreign engines electronics and radar. However the indian military is more transparent than china, you know what they do at all times. Our governmeent (China) never really tells us what they're up to...
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all info based on wiki Empty wt JF=6586kg LCA=6560kg Max takeoff wt JF=12383kg LCA=13200kg G-limit JF=+8 g / -3 g LCA=+9/−3.5 g Internal Fuel Capacity JF=2300kg LCA=2458kg Maximum speed JF=Mach1.6 LCA=Mach1.8 Thrust/weight JF=0.95 LCA=1.07
Ferry range JF=3482km LCA=3000km Service ceiling JF=16920m LCA=15250m THESE ARE THE 2 AREAS WHERE LCA IZ BEHIND JF
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@zingisgood LCA IS mostly made of advanced composites nt frm aluminium
it hz a very low radar detection as compared to JF so service ceiling\altitude iz nt a problem
range iz less bcoz speed iz more
lca can carry more weapons. it has 8 hardpoints while JF has 7
YES the Lca doesn't have an indigenous engine it uses GE414.
THE indigenous GTX Kaveri wz bieng developed bt it iz still in its testing phase
But gtx will power AMCA which will be completely Indigenous
so I THINk LCA is nt inferior To JF
MikiBharat 1 month ago
@zingisgood
only 1st 100 lca are to be powered by GE 414
next 150 will b powered by GTX kaveri
MikiBharat 1 month ago
@MikiBharat Are you stupid? The J-15 is not a copy of the SU-30 MKI, if anything it uses the airframe of the SU-33 which is a carrier based flanker. The MKI is just an upgrade of the regular SU-30. If I use your method of determining planes purely by appearrancce then I could say the SU-33 is a copy of the MKI.
Hell, I could even say the other flankers are also copies of the MKI.
zingisgood 2 months ago
@zingisgood
i dont kw wat the hell iz wrong wid chinese ppl
u say dat only air frame iz same and from the inside it is better
well 1st its an aircraft and dat too a fighter so every thing from its
maneuverability,speed,handling,weight
depends on its design
the basic,most imp thing & which requires brain to develop(chinese don have dis) is d
design and aerodynamics u ppl hv copied
2nd u sick lossers say dat it has improved features wel chinese weapon superior than russian KISS MY ASS
MikiBharat 2 months ago
I see tons of youtube experts here........ looks like a lot of you are involved in these Chinese aerospace projects huh?
greydotjaguar 3 months ago
I like the part of the video where the subtitle shows "Nice" when Till Lindemann says "No". Not only can the Chinese misuse English in publishing and videos, but now also German as well.
...and it is a copy, the structural engineering acquired from an unfinished Su-33 prototype acquired from the Ukraine, the structural improvements required for carrier ops being probably the most important component of a carrier-based aircraft.
Personally, I buy US or Canadian made socks.
RCAF432Sqn 6 months ago
made in china ckkkkkkkkkkk rs sale R$150 dolars russia
THXRACING 6 months ago
It is just copy our SU-33
Blackshark444 8 months ago 6
@Blackshark444
true. but a much improved copy.
It fulfills more the role like the F/A-18 Superhornet strike fighter, than the purely air-superiority role of the original Su-33.
Advanced avionics and modern chinese active radar missiles and anti-shipping munitions are the key-parts which keeps the J-15 apart from the basic Su-33.
I wish the russians would do something like this too (ie. updating the Su-33), instead of going for the MiG-29 for their carrier aviation...
IvanXylakantsky 8 months ago 21
@IvanXylakantsky
Thank you!
Finally an aviation expert who actually knows his stuff regarding improvement of designs!
segregator236 8 months ago
@segregator236 Well, the Russians got T-50. And you know what I mean.
ltmikepowell 6 months ago
@IvanXylakantsky su-33 was made in USSR 20 years ago say thanks to Ukraine to buy it in 2005 we actually have new modernization of su-33 and mig-29 but we don't not need it we will better build pak fa instead. why u just cannot make yr own plane and not to buy and copy and afterworlds say its so Chinese its so cool it can match every plane!
DeathSetler 3 months ago
@IvanXylakantsky They're not even able to build relyable Thrust Vectors so how can they build something better than we do? We have MUCH more experience than they will gain in the next 20 Years.
SovjetPhoenix 2 months ago
@Blackshark444 the chinese copied your shell, the internal organs were designed by them alone.
jobjed 6 months ago
@Blackshark444
No it is far more!!
Su-33 is so outdated.
Also, J-15 has nothing to do with SU-33. Chinese never got SU-33. It is Ukraine sold T-10K!!!
J-15 is far better than your SU-33
1. It has AESA radar
2. Far better avonics
3. Better engine, larger thrust.
4. Better airframe, with more composite material.
5. Much better weapon systems!!
jiangshulin 5 months ago
@Blackshark444 i'm very sorry that it's really better than su-33
MrMarcocaofanhua 2 months ago
For those who say that this is a "copy", it shows how little you know about aviation or this aircraft.
If you know anything about military aircraft, you would know that looks itself means almost nothing.
The J-15 uses completely new Chinese-developed technology, even the engines and the RAM coating. The only non-Chinese component is the Su-33 airframe. Besides that, all the main and important components are Chinese-developed. It's pretty much a Chinese fighter in a Russian skin.
segregator236 8 months ago 13
@segregator236 Both Russians and Israelis done that trick in the past. So why not China do it as well?
Correct me if I'm wrong, I heard J-15 may got Israeli technology.
ltmikepowell 6 months ago
@segregator236 so why the russian skin, why not a chinese fighter in a chinese skin.
diulesing7 5 months ago
@diulesing7
J-20, J-10, JF-17, JH-7A are all pure Chinese fighter in Chinese skin!!!!
You can only name J-15, what else??
jiangshulin 5 months ago
most j-10 are still flying with Russian AL-31 engline, JH-7a engine is also not Chinese made,..J-20's engine is unknown, hopefully it is really ws-15 or ws-10 variant....the reason why i brought this up is to remind our own people that we started our aviation industry 100 years later than the west....it is already incredible that we have reached such a point... i am proud to see J-20 and J-10b, when is see j-11b, su 30 or su27, h-6...J-15 that really piss me off, why cant we desgin our own skin
diulesing7 5 months ago
@diulesing7
First of all, the airframe has been extensively upgraded by PLA. It has incorporated composites, RAM, making it 700 kg lighter than any Flanker airframe and eight times stealthier than the Su-30MKI. Why waste time when you can simply use proven ones? The fact that the airframe is based on a Russian one does not mean the aircraft is not 100% indigenous.
segregator236 3 months ago
I thought the Chinese were going to use J10s and J20s on their own Aircraft carrier instead of home made Su33 clones.
XVMSSS02 8 months ago
@XVMSSS02 su-33 is for practise. china is developing f-35 like fighters. its under development.
do some research and even a retard like u can figure it out
stealthpakfa 6 months ago
@stealthpakfa Got any info on that?
ltmikepowell 6 months ago
@stealthpakfa hey cunt, Yeah I already know but the other JXX planes.
calling me retard well I guess it takes one to know one fuckface.
XVMSSS02 6 months ago
Looks a lot like the J - 11. Nice Plane though.
syedm90 8 months ago
TOO BIG SIZE - nice :)
88a 8 months ago