@lordofduct To add, laughing about castration is horrible and it is incredibly unacceptable. TheAmazingAtheist, however, not only tries to downplay sexism towards women, he tries to make feminism seem unjustified and unnecessary despite there being far worse things happening to women all over the world. With the majority patriarchal societies, women are oppressed in so many different ways. The majority of feminist/ women do not discriminate against men, but the majority of men do.
@FecundHippo He did? Where? His entire video was about how laughing at castration was horrible. That was the topic of his film. You also say relmneiko posted this video because men shouldn't downplay sexism against women... but she spends her entire video essentially giving pass to women laughing at castration because they've had to deal with oppression before. And I would like to know where your statistic is that "the majority of men do [discriminate against women]".
@FecundHippo - The concern I have is that such activity, forgiving people for laughing at castration, and essentially excusing inequality between genders, does more to HURT gender equality world wide. Patriarchal societies may look at our secular nation, laughing at male castration and the sort, and think "why would we want to change our ways?" Show them our social choices are BETTER and MORE BENEFICIAL and not just the same thing in the opposite direction.
@lordofduct I agree that being oppressed is no excuse for discriminating against other people, especially your oppressor. Honestly, unless we have lived as the other person (i.e. being gay or a woman) we can't understand how they live as it is not in our experience. As a white gay man, I can only sympathize with those who aren't. Everyone receives discrimination, but what @relmneiko is saying is that there's more, far worser things happening to women, so a man shouldn't downplay it.
@relmneiko Thank you! White, heterosexual, middle class men do not understand how much we deal with oppression! While discrimination does exist towards everyone, in North American and Europe, people falling under the aforementioned identities cannot comprehend and shouldn't comment against us.
And your further debate is that because these statistics exist it's OK to laugh at a man getting his dick cut off? You admit they're assholes, but you excuse it. He realizes that there is a culture against women, it's that the response is a culture of violence against men. The idea of laughing at a man for having his dick cut off, an entire group of women doing it, that is a culture of violence against men. It's condoning that. That IS SEXIST, that IS REINFORCING PERCEPTION.
That's the point of TheAmazingAtheist, it hurts the image of an equal rights movement to use unequal tactics. It is NOT equal to ridicule the victim of a horrendous crime just because his gender has committed horrendous crimes in the past. That is attacking someone based on their gender. THAT IS SEXISM.
3 why is the fact that women get abused more then men make men getting abused less in portent you didn't ever look in to the rate of how mush husbands get abused get abused, killed or mistreated by there wives
4 how about you think about the fact that women have WAY MORE reproductive rights then men I tell you about a man breaks up with a woman but the women got pregnant by the man before the break up now that woman can make the man pay her
Every 37 seconds, a man is physically assaulted by an intimate partner, (Department of Justice, 2000).
This is excatly how feminist think. They are victims and men arent. The main diffenrence is that people actually talk about women problems openly, while men problems are either ignored or just laught about. Please get your head out of your ass and start looking at the big picture instead of your own gender.
The main reason there's more reported incidents of men abusing women, doesn't mean more men abuse women.
Men have bigger ego's and more pride in general, and in this world, if he reports he's been abused by a woman, people will laugh and say "lol you got beat up by a girl, you're a faggot".
Take this video off, you missed the point you stupid bitch.
It's not about who did it more to the opposite sex.
watching the reports is irrelevant, those people are different social class and inteligence level then you are, conditions they live in are different, average person has no way to understand that, also you look like my friend.. amaizing
You are missing the point. It's not only the talk hosts, but also the audience who laughed, and that is very scary. Violence against women is often more serious yes, because men are stronger. But the fact that the majority of violence against children is commited by women and the higher statistics of women starting a fight in a couple show that we're not that different and if women were stronger, they would hurt men as often. That's why media should approach it the same for both genders.
Are u really talking about sexual assault on women, when you fucking turds think its a good idea to play a game of kicking a dude in the nuts? Fucking tomboy ugly waste of sperm.
@BliksemSagitta oh hello maple fangirl. Still as gullible as before eh? The statistics are not very accurate. These crimes are committed by a small minority of men, which deserve to rot. Similar number of crimes have been committed against men by an equal number of male criminals before. For example, I would never hit a girl. You on the other hand, would hit every boy, good or bad, irregardless. You are sooo young, poor girl. I pity you.........Keep trying to make more friends. I believe in you
Here's a big tip. Wearing sophisticated clothing doesn't make your statements seem smarter.. it just makes your stupidity look more like a brilliant satire. Please go back to the dressing room and where something in accordance to your intelligence. You missed T.J's point.
I'm a guy and I believe your points are correct. It is wrong laugh or celebrate a man getting his dick cut off but the issue isn't equal as TJ suggests in his video. It's much more complicated then what he makes it seem.
If I have to pick one "mistake" it's the fact that you posted this video as a response to TJ under his video. He has a lot of followers so expect your video's ratings and most of the comments you get here to be negative. However, don't confuse that as you being wrong.
You're argument is so flawed and so linear minded. It's like you're an angry child who is trying to sound so "adult". Yes I am a man, but just looking at your logic, justifications and "number stats", absolute me makes me want to rip everything you said to shreds. But I tell you what, if you are a reasonable "individual", then I invite you to have a conversation about this with me, either private or posted. Up to you. Atm, you remain so off balance & borderline imbecilic with your "convictions".
Hahah - I'm not even going to watch your video... I'm just going to come here and tell you you're actually the idiot without even listening to what you have to say... you're just trying to predate on someone more interesting than you are
@Sapperbounded what point are you trying to make? its different for women because women get abused more often? fuck you! many men who are even much physically stronger take this kind of shit because of he actually DEFENDS himself, OOO sexual assault!!!!, your a stupid cunt!
Actually you see A LOT of talk shows about women being abused. Studies have shown that women hit men more than men hit women, and due to the stereotype of men always being the abuser that they are often treated as "second-class victims" from authorities. Watch what happens next time you see a guy hit a girl in public, then watch again when roles are reverse Watch this video to see an example. /watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks (it won't let me post the full link, so just paste it.)
@Danielshawdesign and also, tell this "real intellect" here, that the entertainment industry uses the issue of men abusing women, for entertainment value so of course you'll see a lot of it, which most of it is exaggerated. And in this politically correct disingenuous society we live in..you' would never see the reverse. Hmm, isnt that what T.A.A basically said? But of course he's the "fucking idiot". Right! Even the title of this video alone right off the bat screams.."idiot"!
TJ's videos exemplify the stupidity of our society, or at least the majority. You're saying like no we have to think like those people. You're taking his concept and going backwards.
LOL, what a stereotype. Could you look any more like a boy? I actually think I hate Canadians even more than I do Americans. Similiar stupid accent, but you mispronounce words like 'about'. I'm also a little bit disappointed. I was hoping your video would be ubercuntish, but it wasn't as obnoxious as I'd hoped. Damalisemira's 'little women' response video (now removed from responses but still viewable on her channel) is way, way worse. You failed.
Just because there are more cases of a women being abused then a man, doens't make it any different. Abuse is abuse, no matter what.
The point here is, men are abused, maybe not as much as women, but they are, and people LAUGH at it. They say "oh he deserves it if he can get beat up by a women!"
@lordofduct To add, laughing about castration is horrible and it is incredibly unacceptable. TheAmazingAtheist, however, not only tries to downplay sexism towards women, he tries to make feminism seem unjustified and unnecessary despite there being far worse things happening to women all over the world. With the majority patriarchal societies, women are oppressed in so many different ways. The majority of feminist/ women do not discriminate against men, but the majority of men do.
FecundHippo 2 months ago
@FecundHippo He did? Where? His entire video was about how laughing at castration was horrible. That was the topic of his film. You also say relmneiko posted this video because men shouldn't downplay sexism against women... but she spends her entire video essentially giving pass to women laughing at castration because they've had to deal with oppression before. And I would like to know where your statistic is that "the majority of men do [discriminate against women]".
lordofduct 2 months ago
@FecundHippo - The concern I have is that such activity, forgiving people for laughing at castration, and essentially excusing inequality between genders, does more to HURT gender equality world wide. Patriarchal societies may look at our secular nation, laughing at male castration and the sort, and think "why would we want to change our ways?" Show them our social choices are BETTER and MORE BENEFICIAL and not just the same thing in the opposite direction.
lordofduct 2 months ago
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@lordofduct I agree that being oppressed is no excuse for discriminating against other people, especially your oppressor. Honestly, unless we have lived as the other person (i.e. being gay or a woman) we can't understand how they live as it is not in our experience. As a white gay man, I can only sympathize with those who aren't. Everyone receives discrimination, but what @relmneiko is saying is that there's more, far worser things happening to women, so a man shouldn't downplay it.
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FecundHippo 2 months ago
@relmneiko Thank you! White, heterosexual, middle class men do not understand how much we deal with oppression! While discrimination does exist towards everyone, in North American and Europe, people falling under the aforementioned identities cannot comprehend and shouldn't comment against us.
FecundHippo 2 months ago
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FecundHippo 2 months ago
So your problem was with the people who responded to TheAmazingAtheist... not TheAmazingAtheist.
lordofduct 2 months ago
And your further debate is that because these statistics exist it's OK to laugh at a man getting his dick cut off? You admit they're assholes, but you excuse it. He realizes that there is a culture against women, it's that the response is a culture of violence against men. The idea of laughing at a man for having his dick cut off, an entire group of women doing it, that is a culture of violence against men. It's condoning that. That IS SEXIST, that IS REINFORCING PERCEPTION.
lordofduct 2 months ago
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That's the point of TheAmazingAtheist, it hurts the image of an equal rights movement to use unequal tactics. It is NOT equal to ridicule the victim of a horrendous crime just because his gender has committed horrendous crimes in the past. That is attacking someone based on their gender. THAT IS SEXISM.
So erm, who is the idiot?
lordofduct 2 months ago
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lordofduct 2 months ago
your an idiot lady if you want equality then it has to go both ways.
XBlackWolf10 2 months ago
also when men get raped, forget 50% how about 10%,
badassnumber13 2 months ago
1 why is Tj an idiot
2 why was the video stupid
3 why is the fact that women get abused more then men make men getting abused less in portent you didn't ever look in to the rate of how mush husbands get abused get abused, killed or mistreated by there wives
4 how about you think about the fact that women have WAY MORE reproductive rights then men I tell you about a man breaks up with a woman but the women got pregnant by the man before the break up now that woman can make the man pay her
badassnumber13 2 months ago
ya i can't spell check to save my life
badassnumber13 2 months ago
Women are 4 times more sexist than men (Goodwin and Rudman, 2004).
This context, makes your attitude even less significant.
Your victim-feminist stats suck.
You are either an idiot, or a knowing hater.
Read a men's rights movement book.
Martin S Feibert's annotated bibliography of hundreds of DV studies shows women at least as violent as men. You misandric ignoramous.
Victim-feminism will not set you free.
Read a book.
Women are more likely to use weapons during DV than men you cunt.
sexismBusters 3 months ago 2
Lets focus on ad hominem, red herrings and argumentum ad populum, and this is only 1:46 into the video, in order!
motina10 3 months ago 2
Oh silly Oliver Twist. Always coming up with nary an insightful bit of topic in thy conversing forum. Silly silly Oliver.
C1TeamMidNight 4 months ago 2
LLLEERRRROOOOOYYYY JJJJJEEEEENNNNNKKKKIIIIINNNNSSSSS!!!!
Nerefurian 4 months ago 3
See person before talking - Ugh look at this "fallout boy" looking douche
hearing voice - "What the fuck? I can guess what the have to say now." I was right.
o101011o 4 months ago
are u a man or a woman?
veffulimaanful 4 months ago
Yeah i googled "women abusing men" and got this
Every 37 seconds, a man is physically assaulted by an intimate partner, (Department of Justice, 2000).
This is excatly how feminist think. They are victims and men arent. The main diffenrence is that people actually talk about women problems openly, while men problems are either ignored or just laught about. Please get your head out of your ass and start looking at the big picture instead of your own gender.
scriptox 5 months ago
You don't get it. There's no tv show where 5 or 6 guys sitting around being sexist which conveys it's ok to be so
begood20000 5 months ago
Holy shit, you completely missed the point. Get your head on straight.
vigilanteartist 5 months ago 4
The main reason there's more reported incidents of men abusing women, doesn't mean more men abuse women.
Men have bigger ego's and more pride in general, and in this world, if he reports he's been abused by a woman, people will laugh and say "lol you got beat up by a girl, you're a faggot".
Take this video off, you missed the point you stupid bitch.
It's not about who did it more to the opposite sex.
BeastLordofMetal 5 months ago 5
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You CANNOT pull off those clothes. You look like a 10 year old boy in 1923.
nmann15 6 months ago
watching the reports is irrelevant, those people are different social class and inteligence level then you are, conditions they live in are different, average person has no way to understand that, also you look like my friend.. amaizing
MrRedLED 6 months ago
You are missing the point. It's not only the talk hosts, but also the audience who laughed, and that is very scary. Violence against women is often more serious yes, because men are stronger. But the fact that the majority of violence against children is commited by women and the higher statistics of women starting a fight in a couple show that we're not that different and if women were stronger, they would hurt men as often. That's why media should approach it the same for both genders.
JedaChz2011 6 months ago 3
Are u really talking about sexual assault on women, when you fucking turds think its a good idea to play a game of kicking a dude in the nuts? Fucking tomboy ugly waste of sperm.
Kalonsoldierfront 6 months ago
lol are you a girl or a boy? :(
Thonychil 6 months ago 4
lol I troll on his channel on purpose and his stupid fanboys attacking me like a swarm
BliksemSagitta 6 months ago
@BliksemSagitta oh hello maple fangirl. Still as gullible as before eh? The statistics are not very accurate. These crimes are committed by a small minority of men, which deserve to rot. Similar number of crimes have been committed against men by an equal number of male criminals before. For example, I would never hit a girl. You on the other hand, would hit every boy, good or bad, irregardless. You are sooo young, poor girl. I pity you.........Keep trying to make more friends. I believe in you
yankydoodle83 6 months ago
I agree, he should die, a macho like him should never talk about sexism
BliksemSagitta 6 months ago
So you're saying because women get abused more makes it different? Why don't you watch the video again and again till you get the point.
magmablood2 6 months ago
fall out boy ... anyone?
SunStrokeCactus 6 months ago
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SunStrokeCactus 6 months ago
Here's a big tip. Wearing sophisticated clothing doesn't make your statements seem smarter.. it just makes your stupidity look more like a brilliant satire. Please go back to the dressing room and where something in accordance to your intelligence. You missed T.J's point.
jayops 6 months ago 2
I'm a guy and I believe your points are correct. It is wrong laugh or celebrate a man getting his dick cut off but the issue isn't equal as TJ suggests in his video. It's much more complicated then what he makes it seem.
If I have to pick one "mistake" it's the fact that you posted this video as a response to TJ under his video. He has a lot of followers so expect your video's ratings and most of the comments you get here to be negative. However, don't confuse that as you being wrong.
DaRunningMan 6 months ago
You're argument is so flawed and so linear minded. It's like you're an angry child who is trying to sound so "adult". Yes I am a man, but just looking at your logic, justifications and "number stats", absolute me makes me want to rip everything you said to shreds. But I tell you what, if you are a reasonable "individual", then I invite you to have a conversation about this with me, either private or posted. Up to you. Atm, you remain so off balance & borderline imbecilic with your "convictions".
codern 6 months ago
You fucking feminazi cunt.
colicub 6 months ago
Hahah - I'm not even going to watch your video... I'm just going to come here and tell you you're actually the idiot without even listening to what you have to say... you're just trying to predate on someone more interesting than you are
wildsanity 6 months ago
... You COMPLETELY missed the point.
Sapperbounded 6 months ago 26
@Sapperbounded without question...and really embarrassingly too.
codern 6 months ago
@Sapperbounded what point are you trying to make? its different for women because women get abused more often? fuck you! many men who are even much physically stronger take this kind of shit because of he actually DEFENDS himself, OOO sexual assault!!!!, your a stupid cunt!
TJmarian 6 months ago
Actually you see A LOT of talk shows about women being abused. Studies have shown that women hit men more than men hit women, and due to the stereotype of men always being the abuser that they are often treated as "second-class victims" from authorities. Watch what happens next time you see a guy hit a girl in public, then watch again when roles are reverse Watch this video to see an example. /watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks (it won't let me post the full link, so just paste it.)
Danielshawdesign 6 months ago
@Danielshawdesign and also, tell this "real intellect" here, that the entertainment industry uses the issue of men abusing women, for entertainment value so of course you'll see a lot of it, which most of it is exaggerated. And in this politically correct disingenuous society we live in..you' would never see the reverse. Hmm, isnt that what T.A.A basically said? But of course he's the "fucking idiot". Right! Even the title of this video alone right off the bat screams.."idiot"!
codern 6 months ago
TJ's videos exemplify the stupidity of our society, or at least the majority. You're saying like no we have to think like those people. You're taking his concept and going backwards.
TheFlowHD 6 months ago
LOL, what a stereotype. Could you look any more like a boy? I actually think I hate Canadians even more than I do Americans. Similiar stupid accent, but you mispronounce words like 'about'. I'm also a little bit disappointed. I was hoping your video would be ubercuntish, but it wasn't as obnoxious as I'd hoped. Damalisemira's 'little women' response video (now removed from responses but still viewable on her channel) is way, way worse. You failed.
carlosmontros534535 6 months ago
you stupid faggets why did you dislike this persons video?
You fanboys of taa are batshit stupid. lol ROFL
Allamun 6 months ago
Just because there are more cases of a women being abused then a man, doens't make it any different. Abuse is abuse, no matter what.
The point here is, men are abused, maybe not as much as women, but they are, and people LAUGH at it. They say "oh he deserves it if he can get beat up by a women!"
Harvantes 6 months ago 31
@Harvantes EXACTLY!!!
codern 6 months ago